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Speaker 1: Yesterday afternoon, the Power Water Corporation advised that the Darwen

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Speaker 1: and Water Corporation's Acting CEO, John Peace. Good morning to you, John.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Katie, and good morning to your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time this morning. I know

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Speaker 1: that there's been a number of meetings I imagine throughout

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Speaker 1: What is the go with the pump currently?

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Speaker 2: As you mentioned in your introduction, Katie, the high rain

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Speaker 1: So what are those contingencies.

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Speaker 2: The first one that where which we've just we've mobilized

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Speaker 2: The second one is this overhead power infrastructure at site,

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Speaker 2: plan B if our first contingency can't be done. Once

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Speaker 1: So how soon do you anticipate that either the generators

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Speaker 2: I think the Chief Minister earlier indicated maybe a day

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Speaker 1: So one to two days away, but I would imagine

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Speaker 2: Yes, the teams need to assess the condition of the

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Speaker 1: Now, talk us through though some of the modeling that

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Speaker 1: How many days you know, how many days have we

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Speaker 2: Our priority at the moment is for territorians and Darwen

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Speaker 2: Katie this is an unprecedented situation. We've never seen this

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Speaker 1: So we're heavily reliant on everybody reducing that consumption because

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Speaker 1: So I know people are going to be asking how

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Speaker 2: At the moment. We've got every confidence that between Plan

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Speaker 1: So how how will those water reductions help? You know,

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Speaker 2: Usually every bit counts, Katie, whether it's you know, you

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Speaker 1: Of water that will Yeah, look again, I know I

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Speaker 2: Exactly, do the right thing as we've asked in terms

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Speaker 1: Message and so if they do, we're not going to

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Speaker 2: Is that the case, I can assure your listeners there

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Speaker 1: And as you've said, I mean quite an unprecedented situation

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Speaker 2: There's a multiple factors that are underway. There's a new

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Speaker 2: Australian Government for the funding to do that. That will

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Speaker 2: provide an alternate source of water, drinking water, safe drinking

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Speaker 2: water to territories. They're the key immediate measures that we

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Speaker 1: And so assuming if that had been if that was complete,

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Speaker 2: Whenever you've got redundancy, it gives you options to go

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Speaker 1: So I mean, is that the message for listeners this morning?

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Speaker 1: Is it more a situation here that you know that

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Speaker 1: these measures in terms of saving water are also a

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Speaker 1: bit of a redundancy, you know, so that you've got

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Speaker 1: the time to be able to get that pump fixed.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day. It is demand management

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Speaker 2: as part of that issue, and so people reducing their

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Speaker 1: But in terms of the water stores that we've got, yes,

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Speaker 1: we've got enough that listeners do not need to worry.

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Speaker 1: We are not going to run out of essential supply

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Speaker 2: No, we'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: All right. Well, I appreciate your time this morning. I

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Speaker 1: know you've got a press conference as well coming up.

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Speaker 1: I know our listeners will appreciate you joining us in

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Speaker 1: the studio as well. Acting CEO of Power and Water Corporation,

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Speaker 1: John Peace, thank you so much for joining us in

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Speaker 1: the studio.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Katie, and thank you to your listeners.