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Speaker 1: This is gem Nation. We're Jonesy Well, our next guest

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Speaker 1: bursts onto the Australian modeling scene at the age of sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Back in the nineties, you could not pick up a

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Speaker 1: Dolly magazine without seeing her face. In nineteen ninety two,

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Speaker 1: she was on the cover seven.

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Speaker 2: Times, seven times.

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Speaker 1: Well, fast forward to twenty twenty two. After a rich

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Speaker 1: and wonderful life, Alison bray Dado is at a very

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Speaker 1: different stage of life. Calling yourself the queen of menopause.

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Speaker 1: This is something we can all relate to. A need

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Speaker 1: to talk about Allison.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, the Queen of menopause. He's here.

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Speaker 3: Jesus, Look, I am not the queen of menopause. I

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Speaker 3: am the queen of my menopause. But I certainly want

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Speaker 3: everyone else to feel like they are the queen of

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Speaker 3: their own menopause. That's the idea.

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Speaker 1: It's a strange thing, isn't it that when we're teenagers

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Speaker 1: and we go through our first hormonal shift, everyone is

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Speaker 1: very supportive of girls going through puberty, but women going

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Speaker 1: through menopause, this other giant hole modal shift, we're kind

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Speaker 1: of we feel invisible, or we're told by many magazines

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Speaker 1: to fight the natural things that happen to your body,

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Speaker 1: for example, putting on weight around your middle to try

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Speaker 1: and fight it. Don't let menopause win. They're very different messages.

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Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, absolutely, And I mean I say in the book,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, imagine if we actually threw ourselves a party

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Speaker 3: as we as we entered into you know, stopping our

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Speaker 3: cycle and going into this other part of our lives.

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Speaker 3: And I mean, and as I talk to other women

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Speaker 3: who are in the postmenopausal parts of their life, that

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Speaker 3: life is really good on that side, it's really good.

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Speaker 3: So we need to get past this idea that we

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Speaker 3: can't sort of we have to keep it in the

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Speaker 3: shadows and be all ashamed of going old. It's like,

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Speaker 3: we're bloody lucky to grow old.

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Speaker 1: That's so true. And I say that often. But it's

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Speaker 1: funny talking about menopause. There's something so unattractive about it,

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Speaker 1: isn't there There's something when you have children, you move

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Speaker 1: into the next phase of not being a sexually attractive creature,

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Speaker 1: and then into menopause. That's little old lady territory. So

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Speaker 1: I can see why women like me you don't want

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Speaker 1: to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred percent and it's because it's that maiden

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Speaker 3: mother krone and where the crone year is now, and

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Speaker 3: you know the imagery that you get around the crone years,

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Speaker 3: it's not cute.

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Speaker 2: And you've been married for a long time. So is

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Speaker 2: it harder in a long term marriage to go through

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Speaker 2: menopause or would it be easier if you were in

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Speaker 2: sort of like you weren't married, you were in a

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Speaker 2: bunch of different relationships.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good question. I don't know. I I

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Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, certainly with Can, he's watched the

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Speaker 3: highs and lows of menopause with me. He's felt incredibly confused,

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Speaker 3: he's felt incredibly concerned, he's felt really frustrated. So but

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Speaker 3: he knows he always knew who I was, you know,

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Speaker 3: at the core of my soul, even though a lot

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Speaker 3: of even though I was a lot sweatier and angrier,

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Speaker 3: but you know, he was really supportive throughout it. Once

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Speaker 3: he sort of began to understand the challenges. Now he's

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Speaker 3: a big proponent of talking to men about metopause, which

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Speaker 3: is really which is really good. But I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think it's funny though in long term relationships. I

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Speaker 3: think some women actually also get a bit jack of

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Speaker 3: their long term husband too and just be like, you

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Speaker 3: know what, I'm out of here, or vice versa. You know,

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Speaker 3: the men, there's a lot of marriage breakdowns because women

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Speaker 3: aren't getting the help that they need, and a lot

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Speaker 3: of guys go, do you know what. I can't. I

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Speaker 3: can't deal with the changes she's going through. So it

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Speaker 3: can be very rocky.

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Speaker 1: It's also hard for women. I was reading recently, women

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Speaker 1: on dating apps and things like that. As women get older,

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Speaker 1: the men their age aren't looking for women their age exactly.

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Speaker 1: And the only man that will take you is someone

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Speaker 1: who you have to be his nurse maid because he's

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Speaker 1: substantially older. So it's all about we have to redress

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Speaker 1: all this aging stuff, don't we.

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Speaker 3: I agree, Yeah, I mean, you know, and that's I

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Speaker 3: don't know how you even begin to do that, because

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Speaker 3: it's so it's so deep in our culture. It's deep

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Speaker 3: in our psyche, it's deep in our culture. You know.

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Speaker 3: It's just a very Western way of looking at aging.

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Speaker 3: You know, other other indigenous cultures really exalt they're they're

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Speaker 3: they're older, they're elders, you know, but we don't. We

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Speaker 3: don't have that in our culture unfortunately.

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Speaker 2: Bring back the cute cron. Maybe that's the thing. Cute

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Speaker 2: cute crime calendar of cute miss Cron.

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Speaker 1: Bring your dowager's hump and get in this picture.

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Speaker 2: It's great to talk to us. Get to our cameraon

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Speaker 2: to give us a shout out on the radio.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Alison, you were doing amazing work and I'm so

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Speaker 1: glad we're starting to pull the curtain back on what

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Speaker 1: goes on in menopause.

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Speaker 3: And thank you, my pleasure, thanks for having me