WEBVTT - UNPACKED REALITY - MASTERCHEF AUSTRALIA - JONATHAN 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:01.760 It's in the news today, but it was actually on 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:03.640 TV Reload the podcast last week. 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:04.000 Ne'rebine. 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:06.559 Hey guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want to 0:00:06.559 --> 0:00:09.880 thank you for clicking and downloading. On today's episode with Jonathan, 0:00:10.119 --> 0:00:14.160 the third eliminated contestant from Master Chef Australia twenty twenty four, 0:00:14.280 --> 0:00:17.120 which is on Network ten from Sundays through to Thursdays 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:20.319 at seven point thirty. Our guest today, Jonathan is a 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:23.760 carpenter by trade, but his passion has always been cooking. 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:26.360 Ever since he was a ten year old, he's been 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:30.000 making himself dinners and meals with very early appreciation and 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:33.479 understanding of flavors. Jonathan did reveal that he loves the 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:36.320 joy that cooking can bring and in his spare time 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:40.320 he loves curating menus and entertaining his mates. On Master 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.800 Chef Australia, Jonathan was hoping to get the experience he 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.680 needs to move from being a carpenter to a chef. 0:00:46.960 --> 0:00:50.120 His source of inspiration is Andy Allen, a man who 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:52.839 went from being a sparky himself to being one of 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:56.600 Master Chef Australia's current judges. John O will reveal the 0:00:56.640 --> 0:01:00.320 emotional story behind his final dish and why why at 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:02.720 such a young age he was cooking for himself and 0:01:02.800 --> 0:01:05.679 living with his nonna. We will discuss the order of 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:07.880 when the judges are trying your food and how that 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:10.560 is picked and if that could affect the judge's critiques. 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.920 I will get Johno's insights into how the pressure of 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:16.640 being filmed over long hours can make you feel a 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.800 bit self conscious and why that clock can send you 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:22.240 a little mad as you're cooking in the kitchen. There 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:25.240 is an opportunity to highlight the magic of this show 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:27.600 and how it's not only created a bond for him 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:30.080 with his twenty twenty four cast, but how he feels 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:34.120 now connected to the overall Master Chef family. There's actually 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.720 so much to discuss with John O. So sit back 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:40.160 and relax as we unpack the wonderful world of Master 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:41.040 Chef Australia. 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:42.720 Hey Ben, how are I? 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:43.520 I'm good buddy? 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:45.399 How are you good? Thanks made? 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:49.160 How are you feeling after your Master Chef experience? 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:49.680 Oh? 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:52.280 I don't even know where to start to be honest, Well, 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:52.960 it's a podcast. 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.640 We can speak of chat for a while. Let's debrief. Okay, 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:58.440 where do we start with? This. I mean, like, was 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:01.360 it stressful waiting to watch how it was going to 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:03.800 plan on television? Did you get to watch it last 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:05.640 night with your Nona? I mean, there's so many questions 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:06.280 I have for you. 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:08.400 I think the first thing is, I suppose it's like 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.960 the same with any TV really, not that I've got 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:13.720 much experience in the industry, but you know, obviously you're 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:15.919 so frantic, I think when you're in the moment and 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:18.360 when you're trying to perform when you're on camera and 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:20.480 always just kind of strive to do the best that 0:02:20.560 --> 0:02:20.919 you can. 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.040 But I think it's very easy to kind of get lost. 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:26.680 And then obviously in the final edits, you never really 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:27.799 know how it's. 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:29.200 How it's all going to come together. 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:31.320 So I think, you know, when you kind of know 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:34.359 that your episode for elimination is coming up, I suppose 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:36.680 it's always easy to I guess get a little bit worried. 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:37.840 But you know, off the back. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.160 Of watching it last night and watching it with Nona, 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:41.840 it was it was really lovely. 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:43.680 It was it was beautiful really in a sense. 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:45.919 My partner came home, he came home from being out 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.160 for dinner, and he said, because we love both watched 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.000 the show, he said who went home? And he was, 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:52.080 please don't tell me it was the hot one, And 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:53.120 I said it was not hot one. 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:56.079 I'm pretty fair. Thank you. It makes me feel a 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:56.520 bit better. 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:58.960 Yeah, I thought you'd enjoy that. I thought you'd enjoyed it. 0:02:59.000 --> 0:03:00.440 But you know, I know that this is going to 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:02.880 sound really weird, but I predicted that you would go 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:05.880 home because of a couple of quick moments last week. 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.359 And there was this moment when you're on the gantry 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.760 where you said something and I'm sure maybe you've remembered 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:14.000 this moment when you watched it yourself, because it was 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:17.240 kind of this weird moment, And I was wondering whether 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.239 or not producers sometimes sort of tease us with who 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:22.000 may go home, because I mean, when they're editing it 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:23.720 and putting it all together, they kind of know when 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.000 everyone's going home, because from what I know of it, 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.160 they sort of edit it backwards just to sort of 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:29.200 tease bits and pieces. 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:30.160 Am I have? 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:32.400 I got to have? I gone too far down the 0:03:32.480 --> 0:03:34.920 rabbit hole with a very small moment and can you 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:36.200 remember what I'm talking about? 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.280 Like you'd have to refresh my memory to be honest again, 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:41.040 it's all kind of a blur when. 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:41.760 You're down there life. 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:45.320 I mean, maybe maybe they do, maybe they don't, Like 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.560 I honestly don't know. I mean, they've got a stellar 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.240 editing team down there. They do an amazing job, and 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:53.800 it really is like a world class I guess production 0:03:53.920 --> 0:03:55.960 when you're down there, Like, I don't really know what 0:03:56.040 --> 0:03:58.640 I expected. It was going to be like, you know, 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:02.560 seeing a TV at all, and then it's it's really daunting, 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.160 except when when you first get down there you kind. 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:06.440 Of look around and there's people everywhere. 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:09.800 It's not yeah, kind of like I can't remember it exactly, 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.160 but it was kind of like a moment where you 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:14.800 were conscious of the camera and you were commentating on 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:17.279 someone while they were cooking down below. But to me 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:19.240 that was sort of like it's just a glimpse of 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:21.719 something that was unusual from what we've seen of you 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.680 up until that point, and I just sort of thought, well, 0:04:25.040 --> 0:04:28.000 they try and allow us to be okay with contestants 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.720 going home on shows like this sometimes by just leaving 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:33.320 something like that that's very rand. I mean, I've got 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:35.520 a podcast on television, so like I'm studying this weight 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:37.840 and going way too deep on it, you know what 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:38.279 I mean. 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.640 It easier to kind of, I guess, get very speculative 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.600 with maybe whether they do leak little teachers and things 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.680 in there. I mean, I think, to be honest, I'd 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.160 probably have to watch it back. You know, I've been 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:50.240 recording all the episodes, and I've got a reminder on 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:53.120 my TV that it records every episode. So I think 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:55.560 maybe I have to go back and watch it. I mean, 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:57.240 if I do, I might have to give you a 0:04:57.240 --> 0:04:59.120 buzz back and oh my god, maybe you were right. 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:01.839 I can't remember the specifics of it, but I very 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.320 clearly turned around and said to my partner, he's going 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:07.320 to go home relatively early. They don't show something like 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.560 that for no reason, I. 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:11.480 Guess maybe kind of like alluding to something. 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.320 Maybe yeah, And they do that with all of these 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:15.080 shows these days, because like back in the day, you know, 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:16.280 you go on Big Brother and you sit in the 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.320 house and do nothing, like you'd burn some fish and chips. 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:22.279 Nothing happened for the whole season, you know. And now 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.440 when they're making these shows, you know, they've got an 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:28.640 orchestra putting that music together, like it is huge and 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:31.600 very well constructed, and nothing happens by mistake. 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:33.680 No, I mean, you're definitely right, and that I mean, 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.320 I think it's always hard again because like when you're 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:38.200 when you're on the side of it and actually on 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:40.960 in the competition, you know, you don't hear any of 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.040 that extra music, so obviously it's not there. And then 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:44.560 it's only when you watch it back you go, oh 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:46.120 my god, there's so much more that you get put 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.000 into it for the drama and stuff as well, which 0:05:48.000 --> 0:05:48.960 is the craziest part. 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.680 Could you imagine? I remember saying this to Poe years ago. 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:54.479 I think it was after she'd been on Back to Win. 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:57.440 I was like, imagine if they played that music while 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.560 you're in the kitchen, because like, you can't hear that 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.239 drama music as the countdown of the clock is going. 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:03.800 It's just que you know. 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.400 And I feel like I'd have a heart attack if 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:08.280 they play while I while I was in the middle 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.159 of trying to do that cook. I mean, to be honest, 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.000 it's already stressful enough, you know that that clock. 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.520 I mean, it's it's the craziest thing. 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.800 Like, I think the biggest learning curve for me going 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.160 on the show was you know, you can you can 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:21.840 be a great cook. You know, you can have all 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:24.760 the inspiration in the world, but really what it comes 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.200 down to is how good you are at time management. 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.159 I'd suppose more than anything like And you know, as 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:32.000 a guy, I mean, I'll speak for a lot of 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.080 the male gender. I don't think too many guys are great, 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.320 which now I'm management at the best of times. 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:37.800 Anyway, I'll sign off that. 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.440 I'll sign off on that I'm multitasking is fucking horrendous, 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:43.359 That's all I can say. And you know, you'll be 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:45.839 doing something in the kitchen at the same time with 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:47.840 cooking with my one of my best friends. We love 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.239 to cook together and she can do about five different 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.160 things at one one time. If I add one thing in, 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:56.360 even if it's making a crumpet, I will burn that trumpet. 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:59.719 And you know, I think I think that was probably 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.599 my biggest takeaway from it. Then, you know, the people 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.280 that do do really well in the competition either just 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.000 you know, they've got nerves to steal and they don't 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:09.320 let the pressure get to them, or they really just 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.480 do have an uncanny ability to be able to zone 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:13.640 in and you know, focus on four or five different 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.480 things in such a short space. 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:15.760 Of time. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:17.559 I mean, when you think about it, seventy five minutes 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:19.679 for a majority of the cooks is it's not really 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.560 a long time, no, And you know, like in the 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.840 dishes that I was making, I think it was really 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.720 lovely and also pretty crazy in a sense that you know, 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.760 you're amazed at how much you can actually get done 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:32.440 in seventy five minutes when you really, you know, bust 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:34.240 yourself to try and get it done. But then also 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.920 at the same time, it's really not a lot of time, 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.720 you know, when I'm normally cooking at home, and you know, 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:41.560 for my friends that know me outside of the show, 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.040 I've always said, you know, like you're a great cook, 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:43.800 and it's awesome. 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:44.680 That you've got a chance to go on there. 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:46.640 But then when you're actually down on the show, you go. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:48.240 Shit, I've got no time left. 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.640 Yeah, you know, you look up at the clock when 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:52.440 it starts and you go, okay, you know, I've got 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:53.880 a bit of a rough idea in my head, and 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:55.440 the next thing you know, you turn around and they're 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:56.840 telling you got fifteen minutes late. 0:07:58.080 --> 0:07:59.880 I always say that that clock is yelling at it, 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:03.320 you know, Oh, the clock is quiet. It's just a clock, 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.080 and but it just feels like that clock is yelling 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.720 at you the whole way through your cook Yeah, And 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:09.160 I'm then like. 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:10.600 If it's not the clock yelling at you, then. 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:12.280 It's Andy, because you turn around and it'll be doing 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.600 the time poles, going, guys, there's fifteen minutes, and then 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:16.720 all of a sudden, you're looking around, going, shit, I've 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:19.080 got nothing put together here, Like I'm going to actually 0:08:19.080 --> 0:08:21.440 have to like really really push to kind of motor 0:08:21.480 --> 0:08:22.320 on and get it done. 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.840 Well, you know, you mentioned Andy there. You know, Andy's 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:27.000 mum being a guest I thought was quite cute. I 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.600 thought that that concept was a great idea. Did you 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.959 did you enjoy the themes and challenges that were in 0:08:33.000 --> 0:08:34.760 your elimination episode? 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:37.640 Well, absolutely I did. I mean, you know, I guess 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:40.600 it's important to pose. It's easy enough to have really 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.439 well renowned gat chefs come on the show, but for 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:46.559 everyone that's not normally I guess for your day to 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.080 day person doesn't find that as relatable as you know, 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.280 the story of Andy's mum coming on and maybe not 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.959 necessarily being the best cook or you know, just being 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:54.960 a very humble cook. 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:56.160 I think for a lot of people. 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.600 That's a very very relatable story and very iconically Australian 0:08:59.600 --> 0:09:01.160 and a lot of ways, which you know, if that's 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.240 the challenge that I went out on, you know, it's 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:04.679 a beautiful challenge to go out on. 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:07.199 Well, you know, honest something for you, you know what 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.880 I mean, Like, I think we got this beautiful moment 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.360 with you talking about well, I mean the choice of cooking. 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.880 You're not as pufferdeling, you know. I thought that was 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:18.920 an opportunity to get that sort of storyline's happening for 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:22.680 everybody and to tug on our heartstrings and man alive. 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:27.560 I mean, it was emotional without knowing you personally, watching 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:31.800 you talking about your upbringing, I think we related as 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.240 at I'm speaking on behalf of Australia, but I think 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.640 everyone related to you hard while watching that, and it 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:38.839 was a real genuine moment. 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.720 Oh absolutely, I mean, like to be honest, even for 0:09:41.800 --> 0:09:44.920 me watching it back last night, it was actually pretty 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:45.480 hard to watch. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:46.760 That was probably the hardest part of it. 0:09:46.800 --> 0:09:50.560 So, I mean, it's all true, and you know, the overwhelming, 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.000 I guess amount of messages and support from people that 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:57.280 I've never met, just through the back of you know, Instagram. Overnight, 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.360 my phone has been blowing up NonStop a all day 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.480 and you know, all of last nights at the episode 0:10:02.840 --> 0:10:05.720 like aired of you know, people just saying, like your story, 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.280 you know, I found it so genuine and so relatable, 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:10.600 and you know, I can you know, there's people in 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:12.520 my family that you know, I can kind of relate 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:14.600 that to, and you know, like thank you for going 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:16.880 out and saying that, which is crazy because it's just 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:18.720 it's my life and it's just what it is, you 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:20.360 know what I mean, Like, you don't really think that, 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:22.440 you know, going out and sharing your story is going 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:24.240 to have that kind of an impact on people, which 0:10:24.280 --> 0:10:25.959 is Yeah, it's pretty surreal. 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:28.120 I think it's important though, you know what I mean, 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.800 Like the rarest that we can be and the most 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:34.400 vulnerable that we can be is sometimes the best currency 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:38.360 with connecting to other people. And even you being able 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:42.480 to do that I thought was really took courage, you 0:10:42.520 --> 0:10:46.080 know what I mean. Yeah, I don't know if you 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:47.880 mind me asking, but I think a lot of people 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:49.680 that I was reading about, you know, they were saying, 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:51.600 you know, why had you moved out of home when 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:53.760 you were younger? If it's not too personal for me 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:57.040 to ask what was the conflict with your parents and 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.839 what made you move out of home? I think people 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:02.520 will wanting to know that. And I felt so uncomfortable 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:05.400 asking this question today in case it was too personal, 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:07.760 but it did seem like people wanted to know. 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:13.679 Yeah, I mean, like, look, it's well, so I guess 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.640 to bring it all back, like, I was raised by 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:20.120 a single mom, so my parents weren't always together. And 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:22.680 you know, I think in her own right, in some ways, 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:26.120 she did the best that she could. But you know, 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:32.839 through I guess, substance abuse and just issues with her 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.360 own mental health, I ended up leaving when I was twelve. 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.240 Wow. And then I. 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.600 Moved to Sydney and lived with dad for a few years, 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:46.120 and I guess through a similar string of events kind 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:50.079 of you know, it didn't really end up working out there, 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.040 I guess, it's the nicest way to put it. And 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.760 then yeah, I was just very, very fortunate. I mean 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:56.720 I always kind of relate my life back to the 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:57.640 fresh Prince of bel Air. 0:11:57.720 --> 0:11:59.280 Really that's kind of what it seems like. 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:02.839 But you know, I was just I was given a 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:06.120 once in a million opportunity where I had, you know, 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:09.680 an amazing, loving grandmother that lived close by that wasn't 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:10.560 out in the stick. 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:11.840 Somewhere that you know. 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:15.280 I just said, you've had a pretty rough run of luck, 0:12:15.679 --> 0:12:18.080 I guess, growing up, and you know, if you want 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:19.480 to come live with me, the options there. 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.080 Wow. Thank you for sharing that, because I think it 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.800 is very personal, very hard to be able to say that, 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:26.960 and I know in shows like that they can't really 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.880 they don't have all the time, you know, to allow 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:33.400 that to be there. And and maybe again that's too 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:37.600 raw for TV, so there's possibility of that. But I 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:39.440 guess the best question to ask you at this point is, 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.360 was you're not a proud of you watching that episode 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:42.920 last night? 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:43.520 Ah? 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.720 Yeah, she was through the moon. Yeah, honestly she was stoke. 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:49.120 She you know, she came to me after what I 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:50.800 kind of got into bed and she was like, you know, 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.960 I've always known how you felt about me, but yeah, 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:54.800 that was really lovely. 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:56.880 It was a big thank you, almost like a bit 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.240 of a love letter back to her her, acknowledge her 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.360 for what it is that she would have and has 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:02.320 been able to do for you. 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:04.960 So oh absolutely, I mean, like, you know, if it 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.760 wasn't for her, I doubt i'd still be here, to 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:08.280 be honest. 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:11.880 Yeah, yeah, Well, I was wanting to ask you a 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.600 few things about how the episode went down. When you're 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:16.400 plating up the food and you're bringing the food over, 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:18.560 was your food left to the end like the way 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:20.640 that we saw it, was that the order that had 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:21.880 happened in real real time? 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.559 I'd be honest, I can't even remember, Like, I mean, 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.199 that's the weird thing right through the editing process, Like 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.199 your dish might be first, but it gets shown last 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:29.560 on them. 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:33.080 Know, and I know, you know, just the three challenges 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:33.720 prior to that. 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.839 Again, like I might might have been like the first 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:38.800 one to be tasted, but that only comes through as 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:40.320 like and again, I think a lot of it is 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:42.480 just to do with timing and things like that. For 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.640 an elimination challenge it might be different, but for the 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:47.360 most part, because there's so many contestants and things to 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.600 go through, dishes that they need to feature dishes that 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:52.800 maybe don't do so well. I think there is an 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.439 element to that that does come through through the storytelling 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:56.520 and the editing process. 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.760 I always wonder whether or not the order of who 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.080 gets to serve and play up their food first whether 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:02.400 there's an advantage in any way. 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.160 I mean, look, I think I suppose it depends on 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.040 how hungry the judges are really at the end of 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:07.360 the day. 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.640 They stuff before they come on those days, you know 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:11.839 they've got to eat there, like don't eat breakfast, don't 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:12.480 eat lunch here. 0:14:13.400 --> 0:14:14.960 Well, I mean like like that, you know, I mean 0:14:15.000 --> 0:14:17.040 like for the very first cooking we were there, you know, 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.320 there was twenty two of us and it was such 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:19.960 a long day. 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:21.520 I mean, I don't know how much I can go 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:22.360 into I guess like. 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.400 The backgrounds of it, but I mean, look, a lot 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.240 of the days when you're there, they're incredibly long days. 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:29.080 And I mean, like through your history being on TV 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:30.160 as well, like you would know this. 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:31.160 I suppose it's not. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.400 I suppose it's not as glamorous as the end production 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:34.440 kind of makes it look. 0:14:34.520 --> 0:14:36.840 It never is. I can tell you that every show, 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:38.440 you know, people come up to you and they say, 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:40.280 you know, what was it like to be on television? 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.400 Because I and I relate it to it's kind of 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:45.840 like watching a music video, is how it comes across 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.160 on TV. But it ain't like that in real life. 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:52.160 It is very unglamorous and there's a lot of downtime, 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:54.520 you know, like that's. 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:55.240 It, To be honest, I don't. 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:56.880 I don't think I was really prepared for like how 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.920 much downtime you do have just off the back of 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:01.760 like you know, when you when you might do a 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:03.760 tasting when you're watching. 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:04.040 It on camera. 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:08.560 Each tasting might only go for two minutes, like if 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:10.880 you're lucky, but they'll go through and just say like, oh, look, 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:13.080 it was a great dish, well done, and then it's 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:15.200 onto the next, and onto the next, and onto the next, 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.240 and then when you're actually in there in real life, 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.320 you're like, oh, I've been standing here for like twelve hours, 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:21.280 you know. 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:23.440 And that's the part of it you don't. 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:26.360 Say, like I guess for I was actually having a 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.320 bit of a read on Reddit this morning, not that i'd. 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:32.800 Really a comments section. I think that's a dangerous place. 0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.160 To be well like, So that's the thing. 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:36.960 I think My partner Jasmin had kind of got me 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:38.400 onto it and she goes, have you been reading any 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:39.720 of these? And I said, I didn't even know they 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:42.160