Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reload the podcast last week.
Speaker 2: Ne'rebine.
Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back to TV Reload. I want to
Speaker 1: thank you for clicking and downloading. On today's episode with Jonathan,
Speaker 1: the third eliminated contestant from Master Chef Australia twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: which is on Network ten from Sundays through to Thursdays
Speaker 1: at seven point thirty. Our guest today, Jonathan is a
Speaker 1: carpenter by trade, but his passion has always been cooking.
Speaker 1: Ever since he was a ten year old, he's been
Speaker 1: making himself dinners and meals with very early appreciation and
Speaker 1: understanding of flavors. Jonathan did reveal that he loves the
Speaker 1: joy that cooking can bring and in his spare time
Speaker 1: he loves curating menus and entertaining his mates. On Master
Speaker 1: Chef Australia, Jonathan was hoping to get the experience he
Speaker 1: needs to move from being a carpenter to a chef.
Speaker 1: His source of inspiration is Andy Allen, a man who
Speaker 1: went from being a sparky himself to being one of
Speaker 1: Master Chef Australia's current judges. John O will reveal the
Speaker 1: emotional story behind his final dish and why why at
Speaker 1: such a young age he was cooking for himself and
Speaker 1: living with his nonna. We will discuss the order of
Speaker 1: when the judges are trying your food and how that
Speaker 1: is picked and if that could affect the judge's critiques.
Speaker 1: I will get Johno's insights into how the pressure of
Speaker 1: being filmed over long hours can make you feel a
Speaker 1: bit self conscious and why that clock can send you
Speaker 1: a little mad as you're cooking in the kitchen. There
Speaker 1: is an opportunity to highlight the magic of this show
Speaker 1: and how it's not only created a bond for him
Speaker 1: with his twenty twenty four cast, but how he feels
Speaker 1: now connected to the overall Master Chef family. There's actually
Speaker 1: so much to discuss with John O. So sit back
Speaker 1: and relax as we unpack the wonderful world of Master
Speaker 1: Chef Australia.
Speaker 3: Hey Ben, how are I?
Speaker 1: I'm good buddy?
Speaker 3: How are you good? Thanks made?
Speaker 1: How are you feeling after your Master Chef experience?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: I don't even know where to start to be honest, Well,
Speaker 2: it's a podcast.
Speaker 1: We can speak of chat for a while. Let's debrief. Okay,
Speaker 1: where do we start with? This. I mean, like, was
Speaker 1: it stressful waiting to watch how it was going to
Speaker 1: plan on television? Did you get to watch it last
Speaker 1: night with your Nona? I mean, there's so many questions
Speaker 1: I have for you.
Speaker 2: I think the first thing is, I suppose it's like
Speaker 2: the same with any TV really, not that I've got
Speaker 2: much experience in the industry, but you know, obviously you're
Speaker 2: so frantic, I think when you're in the moment and
Speaker 2: when you're trying to perform when you're on camera and
Speaker 2: always just kind of strive to do the best that
Speaker 2: you can.
Speaker 3: But I think it's very easy to kind of get lost.
Speaker 2: And then obviously in the final edits, you never really
Speaker 2: know how it's.
Speaker 3: How it's all going to come together.
Speaker 2: So I think, you know, when you kind of know
Speaker 2: that your episode for elimination is coming up, I suppose
Speaker 2: it's always easy to I guess get a little bit worried.
Speaker 3: But you know, off the back.
Speaker 2: Of watching it last night and watching it with Nona,
Speaker 2: it was it was really lovely.
Speaker 3: It was it was beautiful really in a sense.
Speaker 1: My partner came home, he came home from being out
Speaker 1: for dinner, and he said, because we love both watched
Speaker 1: the show, he said who went home? And he was,
Speaker 1: please don't tell me it was the hot one, And
Speaker 1: I said it was not hot one.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty fair. Thank you. It makes me feel a
Speaker 3: bit better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you'd enjoy that. I thought you'd enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: But you know, I know that this is going to
Speaker 1: sound really weird, but I predicted that you would go
Speaker 1: home because of a couple of quick moments last week.
Speaker 1: And there was this moment when you're on the gantry
Speaker 1: where you said something and I'm sure maybe you've remembered
Speaker 1: this moment when you watched it yourself, because it was
Speaker 1: kind of this weird moment, And I was wondering whether
Speaker 1: or not producers sometimes sort of tease us with who
Speaker 1: may go home, because I mean, when they're editing it
Speaker 1: and putting it all together, they kind of know when
Speaker 1: everyone's going home, because from what I know of it,
Speaker 1: they sort of edit it backwards just to sort of
Speaker 1: tease bits and pieces.
Speaker 3: Am I have?
Speaker 1: I got to have? I gone too far down the
Speaker 1: rabbit hole with a very small moment and can you
Speaker 1: remember what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: Like you'd have to refresh my memory to be honest again,
Speaker 2: it's all kind of a blur when.
Speaker 3: You're down there life.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe maybe they do, maybe they don't, Like
Speaker 2: I honestly don't know. I mean, they've got a stellar
Speaker 2: editing team down there. They do an amazing job, and
Speaker 2: it really is like a world class I guess production
Speaker 2: when you're down there, Like, I don't really know what
Speaker 2: I expected. It was going to be like, you know,
Speaker 2: seeing a TV at all, and then it's it's really daunting,
Speaker 2: except when when you first get down there you kind.
Speaker 3: Of look around and there's people everywhere.
Speaker 1: It's not yeah, kind of like I can't remember it exactly,
Speaker 1: but it was kind of like a moment where you
Speaker 1: were conscious of the camera and you were commentating on
Speaker 1: someone while they were cooking down below. But to me
Speaker 1: that was sort of like it's just a glimpse of
Speaker 1: something that was unusual from what we've seen of you
Speaker 1: up until that point, and I just sort of thought, well,
Speaker 1: they try and allow us to be okay with contestants
Speaker 1: going home on shows like this sometimes by just leaving
Speaker 1: something like that that's very rand. I mean, I've got
Speaker 1: a podcast on television, so like I'm studying this weight
Speaker 1: and going way too deep on it, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: It easier to kind of, I guess, get very speculative
Speaker 2: with maybe whether they do leak little teachers and things
Speaker 2: in there. I mean, I think, to be honest, I'd
Speaker 2: probably have to watch it back. You know, I've been
Speaker 2: recording all the episodes, and I've got a reminder on
Speaker 2: my TV that it records every episode. So I think
Speaker 2: maybe I have to go back and watch it. I mean,
Speaker 2: if I do, I might have to give you a
Speaker 2: buzz back and oh my god, maybe you were right.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the specifics of it, but I very
Speaker 1: clearly turned around and said to my partner, he's going
Speaker 1: to go home relatively early. They don't show something like
Speaker 1: that for no reason, I.
Speaker 2: Guess maybe kind of like alluding to something.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, And they do that with all of these
Speaker 1: shows these days, because like back in the day, you know,
Speaker 1: you go on Big Brother and you sit in the
Speaker 1: house and do nothing, like you'd burn some fish and chips.
Speaker 1: Nothing happened for the whole season, you know. And now
Speaker 1: when they're making these shows, you know, they've got an
Speaker 1: orchestra putting that music together, like it is huge and
Speaker 1: very well constructed, and nothing happens by mistake.
Speaker 2: No, I mean, you're definitely right, and that I mean,
Speaker 2: I think it's always hard again because like when you're
Speaker 2: when you're on the side of it and actually on
Speaker 2: in the competition, you know, you don't hear any of
Speaker 2: that extra music, so obviously it's not there. And then
Speaker 2: it's only when you watch it back you go, oh
Speaker 2: my god, there's so much more that you get put
Speaker 2: into it for the drama and stuff as well, which
Speaker 2: is the craziest part.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine? I remember saying this to Poe years ago.
Speaker 1: I think it was after she'd been on Back to Win.
Speaker 1: I was like, imagine if they played that music while
Speaker 1: you're in the kitchen, because like, you can't hear that
Speaker 1: drama music as the countdown of the clock is going.
Speaker 1: It's just que you know.
Speaker 2: And I feel like I'd have a heart attack if
Speaker 2: they play while I while I was in the middle
Speaker 2: of trying to do that cook. I mean, to be honest,
Speaker 2: it's already stressful enough, you know that that clock.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's the craziest thing.
Speaker 2: Like, I think the biggest learning curve for me going
Speaker 2: on the show was you know, you can you can
Speaker 2: be a great cook. You know, you can have all
Speaker 2: the inspiration in the world, but really what it comes
Speaker 2: down to is how good you are at time management.
Speaker 2: I'd suppose more than anything like And you know, as
Speaker 2: a guy, I mean, I'll speak for a lot of
Speaker 2: the male gender. I don't think too many guys are great,
Speaker 2: which now I'm management at the best of times.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I'll sign off that.
Speaker 1: I'll sign off on that I'm multitasking is fucking horrendous,
Speaker 1: That's all I can say. And you know, you'll be
Speaker 1: doing something in the kitchen at the same time with
Speaker 1: cooking with my one of my best friends. We love
Speaker 1: to cook together and she can do about five different
Speaker 1: things at one one time. If I add one thing in,
Speaker 1: even if it's making a crumpet, I will burn that trumpet.
Speaker 2: And you know, I think I think that was probably
Speaker 2: my biggest takeaway from it. Then, you know, the people
Speaker 2: that do do really well in the competition either just
Speaker 2: you know, they've got nerves to steal and they don't
Speaker 2: let the pressure get to them, or they really just
Speaker 2: do have an uncanny ability to be able to zone
Speaker 2: in and you know, focus on four or five different
Speaker 2: things in such a short space.
Speaker 3: Of time.
Speaker 2: I mean, when you think about it, seventy five minutes
Speaker 2: for a majority of the cooks is it's not really
Speaker 2: a long time, no, And you know, like in the
Speaker 2: dishes that I was making, I think it was really
Speaker 2: lovely and also pretty crazy in a sense that you know,
Speaker 2: you're amazed at how much you can actually get done
Speaker 2: in seventy five minutes when you really, you know, bust
Speaker 2: yourself to try and get it done. But then also
Speaker 2: at the same time, it's really not a lot of time,
Speaker 2: you know, when I'm normally cooking at home, and you know,
Speaker 2: for my friends that know me outside of the show,
Speaker 2: I've always said, you know, like you're a great cook,
Speaker 2: and it's awesome.
Speaker 3: That you've got a chance to go on there.
Speaker 2: But then when you're actually down on the show, you go.
Speaker 3: Shit, I've got no time left.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you look up at the clock when
Speaker 2: it starts and you go, okay, you know, I've got
Speaker 2: a bit of a rough idea in my head, and
Speaker 2: the next thing you know, you turn around and they're
Speaker 2: telling you got fifteen minutes late.
Speaker 1: I always say that that clock is yelling at it,
Speaker 1: you know, Oh, the clock is quiet. It's just a clock,
Speaker 1: and but it just feels like that clock is yelling
Speaker 1: at you the whole way through your cook Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I'm then like.
Speaker 3: If it's not the clock yelling at you, then.
Speaker 2: It's Andy, because you turn around and it'll be doing
Speaker 2: the time poles, going, guys, there's fifteen minutes, and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you're looking around, going, shit, I've
Speaker 2: got nothing put together here, Like I'm going to actually
Speaker 2: have to like really really push to kind of motor
Speaker 2: on and get it done.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, you mentioned Andy there. You know, Andy's
Speaker 1: mum being a guest I thought was quite cute. I
Speaker 1: thought that that concept was a great idea. Did you
Speaker 1: did you enjoy the themes and challenges that were in
Speaker 1: your elimination episode?
Speaker 2: Well, absolutely I did. I mean, you know, I guess
Speaker 2: it's important to pose. It's easy enough to have really
Speaker 2: well renowned gat chefs come on the show, but for
Speaker 2: everyone that's not normally I guess for your day to
Speaker 2: day person doesn't find that as relatable as you know,
Speaker 2: the story of Andy's mum coming on and maybe not
Speaker 2: necessarily being the best cook or you know, just being
Speaker 2: a very humble cook.
Speaker 3: I think for a lot of people.
Speaker 2: That's a very very relatable story and very iconically Australian
Speaker 2: and a lot of ways, which you know, if that's
Speaker 2: the challenge that I went out on, you know, it's
Speaker 2: a beautiful challenge to go out on.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, honest something for you, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, I think we got this beautiful moment
Speaker 1: with you talking about well, I mean the choice of cooking.
Speaker 1: You're not as pufferdeling, you know. I thought that was
Speaker 1: an opportunity to get that sort of storyline's happening for
Speaker 1: everybody and to tug on our heartstrings and man alive.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was emotional without knowing you personally, watching
Speaker 1: you talking about your upbringing, I think we related as
Speaker 1: at I'm speaking on behalf of Australia, but I think
Speaker 1: everyone related to you hard while watching that, and it
Speaker 1: was a real genuine moment.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I mean, like to be honest, even for
Speaker 2: me watching it back last night, it was actually pretty
Speaker 2: hard to watch.
Speaker 3: That was probably the hardest part of it.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, it's all true, and you know, the overwhelming,
Speaker 2: I guess amount of messages and support from people that
Speaker 2: I've never met, just through the back of you know, Instagram. Overnight,
Speaker 2: my phone has been blowing up NonStop a all day
Speaker 2: and you know, all of last nights at the episode
Speaker 2: like aired of you know, people just saying, like your story,
Speaker 2: you know, I found it so genuine and so relatable,
Speaker 2: and you know, I can you know, there's people in
Speaker 2: my family that you know, I can kind of relate
Speaker 2: that to, and you know, like thank you for going
Speaker 2: out and saying that, which is crazy because it's just
Speaker 2: it's my life and it's just what it is, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, you don't really think that,
Speaker 2: you know, going out and sharing your story is going
Speaker 2: to have that kind of an impact on people, which
Speaker 2: is Yeah, it's pretty surreal.
Speaker 1: I think it's important though, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like the rarest that we can be and the most
Speaker 1: vulnerable that we can be is sometimes the best currency
Speaker 1: with connecting to other people. And even you being able
Speaker 1: to do that I thought was really took courage, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: mind me asking, but I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: that I was reading about, you know, they were saying,
Speaker 1: you know, why had you moved out of home when
Speaker 1: you were younger? If it's not too personal for me
Speaker 1: to ask what was the conflict with your parents and
Speaker 1: what made you move out of home? I think people
Speaker 1: will wanting to know that. And I felt so uncomfortable
Speaker 1: asking this question today in case it was too personal,
Speaker 1: but it did seem like people wanted to know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like, look, it's well, so I guess
Speaker 2: to bring it all back, like, I was raised by
Speaker 2: a single mom, so my parents weren't always together. And
Speaker 2: you know, I think in her own right, in some ways,
Speaker 2: she did the best that she could. But you know,
Speaker 2: through I guess, substance abuse and just issues with her
Speaker 2: own mental health, I ended up leaving when I was twelve.
Speaker 3: Wow. And then I.
Speaker 2: Moved to Sydney and lived with dad for a few years,
Speaker 2: and I guess through a similar string of events kind
Speaker 2: of you know, it didn't really end up working out there,
Speaker 2: I guess, it's the nicest way to put it. And
Speaker 2: then yeah, I was just very, very fortunate. I mean
Speaker 2: I always kind of relate my life back to the
Speaker 2: fresh Prince of bel Air.
Speaker 3: Really that's kind of what it seems like.
Speaker 2: But you know, I was just I was given a
Speaker 2: once in a million opportunity where I had, you know,
Speaker 2: an amazing, loving grandmother that lived close by that wasn't
Speaker 2: out in the stick.
Speaker 3: Somewhere that you know.
Speaker 2: I just said, you've had a pretty rough run of luck,
Speaker 2: I guess, growing up, and you know, if you want
Speaker 2: to come live with me, the options there.
Speaker 1: Wow. Thank you for sharing that, because I think it
Speaker 1: is very personal, very hard to be able to say that,
Speaker 1: and I know in shows like that they can't really
Speaker 1: they don't have all the time, you know, to allow
Speaker 1: that to be there. And and maybe again that's too
Speaker 1: raw for TV, so there's possibility of that. But I
Speaker 1: guess the best question to ask you at this point is,
Speaker 1: was you're not a proud of you watching that episode
Speaker 1: last night?
Speaker 2: Ah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was through the moon. Yeah, honestly she was stoke.
Speaker 2: She you know, she came to me after what I
Speaker 2: kind of got into bed and she was like, you know,
Speaker 2: I've always known how you felt about me, but yeah,
Speaker 2: that was really lovely.
Speaker 1: It was a big thank you, almost like a bit
Speaker 1: of a love letter back to her her, acknowledge her
Speaker 1: for what it is that she would have and has
Speaker 1: been able to do for you.
Speaker 2: So oh absolutely, I mean, like, you know, if it
Speaker 2: wasn't for her, I doubt i'd still be here, to
Speaker 2: be honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, I was wanting to ask you a
Speaker 1: few things about how the episode went down. When you're
Speaker 1: plating up the food and you're bringing the food over,
Speaker 1: was your food left to the end like the way
Speaker 1: that we saw it, was that the order that had
Speaker 1: happened in real real time?
Speaker 2: I'd be honest, I can't even remember, Like, I mean,
Speaker 2: that's the weird thing right through the editing process, Like
Speaker 2: your dish might be first, but it gets shown last
Speaker 2: on them.
Speaker 3: Know, and I know, you know, just the three challenges
Speaker 3: prior to that.
Speaker 2: Again, like I might might have been like the first
Speaker 2: one to be tasted, but that only comes through as
Speaker 2: like and again, I think a lot of it is
Speaker 2: just to do with timing and things like that. For
Speaker 2: an elimination challenge it might be different, but for the
Speaker 2: most part, because there's so many contestants and things to
Speaker 2: go through, dishes that they need to feature dishes that
Speaker 2: maybe don't do so well. I think there is an
Speaker 2: element to that that does come through through the storytelling
Speaker 2: and the editing process.
Speaker 1: I always wonder whether or not the order of who
Speaker 1: gets to serve and play up their food first whether
Speaker 1: there's an advantage in any way.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I think I suppose it depends on
Speaker 2: how hungry the judges are really at the end of
Speaker 2: the day.
Speaker 1: They stuff before they come on those days, you know
Speaker 1: they've got to eat there, like don't eat breakfast, don't
Speaker 1: eat lunch here.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean like like that, you know, I mean
Speaker 2: like for the very first cooking we were there, you know,
Speaker 2: there was twenty two of us and it was such
Speaker 2: a long day.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how much I can go
Speaker 3: into I guess like.
Speaker 2: The backgrounds of it, but I mean, look, a lot
Speaker 2: of the days when you're there, they're incredibly long days.
Speaker 2: And I mean, like through your history being on TV
Speaker 2: as well, like you would know this.
Speaker 3: I suppose it's not.
Speaker 2: I suppose it's not as glamorous as the end production
Speaker 2: kind of makes it look.
Speaker 1: It never is. I can tell you that every show,
Speaker 1: you know, people come up to you and they say,
Speaker 1: you know, what was it like to be on television?
Speaker 1: Because I and I relate it to it's kind of
Speaker 1: like watching a music video, is how it comes across
Speaker 1: on TV. But it ain't like that in real life.
Speaker 1: It is very unglamorous and there's a lot of downtime,
Speaker 1: you know, like that's.
Speaker 3: It, To be honest, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think I was really prepared for like how
Speaker 2: much downtime you do have just off the back of
Speaker 2: like you know, when you when you might do a
Speaker 2: tasting when you're watching.
Speaker 3: It on camera.
Speaker 2: Each tasting might only go for two minutes, like if
Speaker 2: you're lucky, but they'll go through and just say like, oh, look,
Speaker 2: it was a great dish, well done, and then it's
Speaker 2: onto the next, and onto the next, and onto the next,
Speaker 2: and then when you're actually in there in real life,
Speaker 2: you're like, oh, I've been standing here for like twelve hours,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: And that's the part of it you don't.
Speaker 2: Say, like I guess for I was actually having a
Speaker 2: bit of a read on Reddit this morning, not that i'd.
Speaker 1: Really a comments section. I think that's a dangerous place.
Speaker 3: To be well like, So that's the thing.
Speaker 2: I think My partner Jasmin had kind of got me
Speaker 2: onto it and she goes, have you been reading any
Speaker 2: of these? And I said, I didn't even know they
Speaker 2: existed up until the fact that the other contestants are
Speaker 2: kind of just shown me. So I was having a
Speaker 2: bit of a read and you know, like everyone's everyone's
Speaker 2: got an opinion in their own right, and that's the beauty.
Speaker 2: And I suppose the downside of the Internet is you know,
Speaker 2: everyone's got to say and everyone's got a voice. And
Speaker 2: I was having a read through the comments, and you know,
Speaker 2: like so many people, you know, everyone's an.
Speaker 3: Expert, like oh, why didn't you do this? Why didn't
Speaker 3: you do that?
Speaker 2: And I mean I always take it with a grain
Speaker 2: assault and laugh because again, like you know, Hinsight's twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: There are better decisions that I probably could have made
Speaker 3: on the day that might have kept me safe. But
Speaker 3: you know, you've got to be.
Speaker 2: Proud of what you do in the moment, and you've
Speaker 2: got to stick to your guns and just kind of
Speaker 2: go for it. And again, like I think for the
Speaker 2: people that can watch the show and go, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: like that's so stupid. You know, even I've been guilty
Speaker 2: of it when I've watched past seasons, going I don't
Speaker 2: know why you wouldn't do this.
Speaker 1: We're all guilty of it. I mean, that's the magic
Speaker 1: of this TV show to a point is that we
Speaker 1: are to sit at home and to relate to the
Speaker 1: person think we could do it better or you know,
Speaker 1: and that's when good TV happens, is when you're sitting
Speaker 1: on your couch and you're yelling and you're going, Jonathan,
Speaker 1: you know, why are you making a slow cooked ragout?
Speaker 1: It's not enough time? You know what I mean? Those
Speaker 1: sorts of things is kind of the magic of Master
Speaker 1: Chef in a way.
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right, and you know, like Jesse, I guess
Speaker 2: going back to that. You know, like when I was
Speaker 2: reading for these comments, I thought, like, you know, the
Speaker 2: other thing that like these people aren't saying is you know,
Speaker 2: like you're cooking day in, day out under like the
Speaker 2: most intense pressure that you've ever been under when it
Speaker 2: comes to cooking a meal, and then you've got such
Speaker 2: long days that it actually it really is, you know,
Speaker 2: quite emotionally and physically draining the hours in the time.
Speaker 2: And you know, I guess off the back of going
Speaker 2: back to my day to day life as a as
Speaker 2: a carpetenter, like off the back of the show, you know,
Speaker 2: I might do an eight hour day year and nine
Speaker 2: hour day there.
Speaker 3: And you know, breeze through the day and it's fine.
Speaker 2: And then you know, when you compare it to all
Speaker 2: you're doing is really going down there and doing a
Speaker 2: seventy five minute.
Speaker 3: Cook in one day. The days were so much more exhausting, of.
Speaker 1: Course, of course, Yeah, I don't think people realize as
Speaker 1: well that the emotional pressure that you're putting on yourself.
Speaker 1: And for anyone out there that's done these reality shows
Speaker 1: that says that, oh, you know, I just forgot the
Speaker 1: cameras were there, it's kind of a bit rude to
Speaker 1: say that, because I mean, it's impossible you're always going
Speaker 1: to be thinking I'm on camera. You're always it's it's
Speaker 1: a heightened level of self awareness and self consciousness that
Speaker 1: unless you've been on a show like this, you'd never understand.
Speaker 3: That well, that that's exactly right. And you know, I think.
Speaker 2: Even even from previous seasons, like I've been in contact
Speaker 2: with Declan and then you know, like rounding something really
Speaker 2: nice message last night, just out of the blue, and
Speaker 2: you know we've never even met before. But I think
Speaker 2: it is the beauty of going on a show like this,
Speaker 2: and you know, being in that environment is once you
Speaker 2: I suppose, whether you're eliminated first or whether you go
Speaker 2: on to win the show, it's a really indescribable feeling
Speaker 2: that unless you actually go and do it and you've
Speaker 2: been on it, no one will really ever understand what
Speaker 2: it's like.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's the bond. That's the reason why
Speaker 1: if you've ever been on a show, like if you've
Speaker 1: been on Master Chef, you're in the Master Chef family
Speaker 1: and you may not have been on the same season
Speaker 1: as the other person, but they understand and relate to
Speaker 1: you in a way that no one else can, and
Speaker 1: it bonds you together like a family.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: When someone from a previous season says to you would
Speaker 1: love to catch up and talk about it, you don't
Speaker 1: even have their exact experience, but you totally get it
Speaker 1: and you are connected to them for life. It's weird, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 3: It's a really it's a really.
Speaker 2: Bizarre, I guess, unusual, yeah, kind of feeling, because it's like, Oh,
Speaker 2: here's someone that you know, I've only ever seen on TV,
Speaker 2: I've never spoken to in real life. I never thought,
Speaker 2: through watching previous seasons, I'd ever speak to you in
Speaker 2: real life, and yet you know, here you are sending
Speaker 2: me a message out of the blue, just going oh mate,
Speaker 2: like I hope you're.
Speaker 3: Doing all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, I always hear if you want to chat,
Speaker 2: or you know, you want to collaborate with doing food
Speaker 2: ideas or you know, it's awesome. It really is just
Speaker 2: such a great environment.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: I'm running out of time, and I literally have asked
Speaker 1: you probably about twenty percent of the things that I
Speaker 1: could have asked you today. But sort of wrapping this up,
Speaker 1: I am asking everyone, who do you want to win?
Speaker 1: Maybe not who you think is going to but do
Speaker 1: you have someone that you were cooking there with that
Speaker 1: you hope takes the competition? Now?
Speaker 2: I mean, like for who I hope to win, I
Speaker 2: would have to say one.
Speaker 3: He was my roommate down there, and I.
Speaker 2: Think in a previous interview that I'd done, they said,
Speaker 2: you know, do you have any kind of behind the
Speaker 2: scenes stuff?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: I think watching that episode back last night, after they
Speaker 2: announced the news that I was the one that was
Speaker 2: getting eliminated, you kind of see like a little cut
Speaker 2: scenes in his face. It just like started to burst
Speaker 2: into tears. My heart rewants at back. But you know,
Speaker 2: the friendships that I guess you make on the show,
Speaker 2: like we were talking about before, you know, it's all
Speaker 2: very real, and you know, I guess we lucked out.
Speaker 2: You know, we were in the same audition process together.
Speaker 2: We became friends, you know, right off the bat through
Speaker 2: the auditions, and then got the same flight down to
Speaker 2: Melbourne together, and you know, got the car into where
Speaker 2: we were staying together, and you know, as we were
Speaker 2: kind of chatting in the uba, it said, oh, you know,
Speaker 2: wouldn't it be great if we ended up being roomies
Speaker 2: And we ended up being Yeah, and then yeah, look
Speaker 2: it ended up being roommates as well. So I mean, look,
Speaker 2: everything you see from him on the show is one
Speaker 2: hundred percent genuine and he really is one of the
Speaker 2: most lovely blokes I've ever had.
Speaker 1: That's a friendship for life. That's the best friend that
Speaker 1: will be there. But just before we go, the one
Speaker 1: thing I ask everyone who joins the podcast is what
Speaker 1: is something from behind the scenes, something that we didn't
Speaker 1: get a chance to see. Well, maybe like a bit
Speaker 1: of a funny anecdote from your time on the show.
Speaker 3: Okay, I've got one for you. Actually, this is something
Speaker 3: that did always used to crack me up.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's like it's not a knowledge I guess through
Speaker 2: everyone but Harry and is.
Speaker 3: Sam pellegrino water. I don't know, but I hate mineral water.
Speaker 3: I can't stand it.
Speaker 2: And literally that kid would carry around a bottle of
Speaker 2: sam pellogrino everywhere that it went.
Speaker 3: And it used to absolutely slay me.
Speaker 2: I know, it's just absolutely so bizarre, but I used
Speaker 2: to find it was so strange that We've gotten too
Speaker 2: so many deep chats about it where he would try
Speaker 2: and convince me that it was the best thing in
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 3: And I'm sorry, I have to disagree. I think it's disgusting.
Speaker 1: Well, fair play to you. We're all allowed to have
Speaker 1: our own tastes. That's fine, absolutely mate. Can I just
Speaker 1: say thank you so much for your generosity with your
Speaker 1: time and chatting with me today and sharing your story.
Speaker 1: I really appreciated it, and you know, I look forward
Speaker 1: to being in your audience and seeing you know what
Speaker 1: you do next.
Speaker 3: Awesome. Look, I really appreciate the time today as well.
Speaker 2: It's been great chatting with you.