1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Kim Revillion is one of the most experienced mid quarters 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: in Australian netbull but her journey to get there looked 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: very different to those who came before her. At age nineteen, 4 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: Kim became the first player to make her international debut 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: before even playing a single national game. Now Kim has 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: sixty Diamonds caps to her name, alongside back to back 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: championships with the Queensland Firebirds, but giving birth to her daughter, 8 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: Georgie in twenty twenty blocks in as one of her 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: favorite achievements to date and now she's back stronger than ever. 10 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: My name is Sophie and I'm the producer here at 11 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: the Female Athlete Project. This week, Chloe caught up with Kim, 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: the current captain of the Queensland Firebirds, with just a 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: few weeks left in this year's Super Netbaal season. This 14 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: episode is brought to you by Athena Sports Nutrition, who 15 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: were changing the sports nutrition game for womenvulnerable and raw. 16 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: Chat about the highs and lows of netball and we 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: hope you enjoy it. 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: Kim, welcome to The Female Athlete Project. 19 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me excited. 20 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: I'm I'm very excited to have a chat before we 21 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: get into where you're at currently with your netball. Can 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 2: you take us back to your childhood and describe Kim 23 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: as a little kid. 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 3: Him as a little kid. 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 4: When I picture myself back in the day, all I 26 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 4: can imagine is my backyard and how I was always outdoors, 27 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 4: either jumping on the trampoline or shooting the basketball hoop. Yeah. 28 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 4: I just absolutely love being outdoors. When I think about 29 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 4: the athletes in the family, I definitely wasn't it. It 30 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 4: was definitely my brother and sister. They had that just 31 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 4: that natural athletic ability, and I was the one that 32 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 4: would always try so hard to beat either of them, 33 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 4: but yeah, it would just never, never happen. But it's 34 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 4: funny now I think about it. They had the ability, 35 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 4: but I had the heart, and that's what kind of 36 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: got me to where I am today. 37 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 38 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 2: Where do you think that came from? Do you think 39 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: that was just an inherent thing in you? 40 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: I just had that competitive drive, you know. 41 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 4: I would lose when I was younger, and I just 42 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 4: start crying because I just wanted to win so bad, 43 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 4: And they, like my brother and sister, would just beat 44 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 4: me so easily, and they call me like I saw 45 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 4: a loser and things like that. But little did they 46 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,119 Speaker 4: know that that enstilled so much fire in my belity 47 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 4: that one day I was like, I'm going to beat 48 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 4: these guys. And then it turns out I'm the only 49 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 4: one who progressed as an elite athlete, so. 50 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: I went there. 51 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: It was very character building. While you're telling that story, 52 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: I'm picturing back in my childhood. I was in the 53 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: middle of two brothers. I would like when I would lose, 54 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: I would like spring into my bedroom and like sitting 55 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 2: at the door and just be so salty and disappointed. 56 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: It's quite embarrassing to reflect on. But maybe that's what 57 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 2: makes us good athletes. 58 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 4: I think so Like, I look at my little girl now, Georgie, 59 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 4: and I see the same thing in her. Last night 60 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 4: was trying to make me like a Plato at pizza, 61 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 4: you know, and she was going so hard not for 62 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 4: it not to fall, and I was just don't look 63 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 4: at me, mom, I watch her and she drop it. 64 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 3: She just that the dummy, And I was like, gosh, 65 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 3: that is me. 66 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: What is it like having a little daughter and thinking 67 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: about your career, like how are you going to be 68 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: as a parent when she gets a little bit older. 69 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: It might be really athletic and good at sport. 70 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 4: Oh, I feel like, having borne through all of it myself, 71 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 4: I'll have a few good words to stay to her 72 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 4: just to get to do. Like last night, even prime example, 73 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 4: I was like, all right, just try again, just that. 74 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 3: Don't talk to me. I got to be charm with it. 75 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 4: I don't feel like I'm a calm voice for me 76 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 4: even nowadays, I don't tolerate that someone yelling at me 77 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 4: very well. I'm such a like, you got to speak 78 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 4: to me calmly because it instantly relaxes me and then 79 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 4: I get straight back into a good mindset in focus. 80 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 3: So yeah, I guess learning in my own journey. Oh, 81 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: that'll help me. 82 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 4: To apply that to hopefully feel the ended up pursuing 83 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 4: the athleta. 84 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: I want to come back to that because I think 85 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: that leadership and communication chat is a really interesting one. 86 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 2: But can you tell us where did you first find 87 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 2: this love for netball? Was it in the backyard with 88 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 2: your siblings? Oh? 89 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 3: The love for netball. 90 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 4: So my dad was a soccer coach, and so he 91 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 4: threw me, mycwen, sister, Jests, and my brother straight into soccer, 92 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 4: and funnily enough, I was terrible with my feet, so 93 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 4: they feel me into cult it. 94 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: We loved it. I love soccer. 95 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 4: But then one weekend, one of our best friends, the 96 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 4: names Natalie, he was playing netball and I was like, oh, 97 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 4: I don't want to play netball. 98 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: The girl is thought like I was definitely the one 99 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: boy growing up. 100 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 4: And then went to watch their play and I just 101 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: remember my spoon and I we were just like, wow, 102 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 4: this is so fun, Like can we get out and 103 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 4: can we go? We have a go and they're like, 104 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 4: now you've got to sign up. So following weekend we 105 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 4: signed up and seriously had the best time. I remember 106 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 4: when I first to throw the ball and I threw. 107 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 3: It over my head. It was just like, yeah, it's 108 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: so fun. 109 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 4: I just remember, Yeah, those younger years playing netball, and like, 110 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 4: obviously Jess and I are in the same things. We 111 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 4: just passed to each other. Yeah, we just have so 112 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 4: much fun with it. But that's kind of what en 113 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 4: stilled the love at a young age for me. 114 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really cool. When was it that you kind 115 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: of started to notice I might actually be all right 116 00:05:58,480 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: at this sport. 117 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 4: Oh, it wasn't until I was probably fifteen. Mom like 118 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 4: I think mom sa already met first because I had 119 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 4: we had a little fear in our family was like 120 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 4: going to the next level. Even throughout primary school, we 121 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 4: would you know, SiO the swimming carnivals and athletics carnivals 122 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 4: and cross country. 123 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 3: We would just never go to regions. 124 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 4: I just like didn't want to, and our teachers would 125 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 4: be so disappointed enough they'd just be like, come on, 126 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 4: You're like wasting your talent. And so then it wasn't 127 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 4: until Mom was like, I'm going to put you into 128 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: the trials to try out for the New South. I 129 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 4: was eighteen and I remember going there and I come 130 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 4: from an association that wasn't very strong, so it was 131 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 4: literally myself and probably one other girl she was trying, 132 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 4: and there was just all these like I just wander 133 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 4: seeing all these girls from great teams, and I was like, 134 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 4: there's no chance I'm making this game, but I'll give 135 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 4: it a cry. 136 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 3: I didn't really care if I made it or or not. 137 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: I was just like, I'll just do it because Mum 138 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: put my name down. And then after trialing. 139 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 4: I was like, no, I'm good enough, fucking Bobe, and 140 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,239 Speaker 4: then I missed out, and from missing out that time. 141 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what it. 142 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 4: Was like that that competitive beast in me came out 143 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: again and I was like, nah, that's not good enough. 144 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 4: I hated that feeling of not seeing my name on 145 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 4: the link, and that's kind of when I was like, 146 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: all right, I'm really going to have a great here. 147 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: From that moment, where do you think that fear in 148 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: the family came from about taking it to the next level? 149 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: Before that, I think I've got an older brother. 150 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 4: He's years older than me and Jess and I looked 151 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 4: up for him and we used to just watch him 152 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 4: play soccer and see how good he was athletically, but 153 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 4: he never went to rep level. And I just was like, oh, 154 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 4: christ didn't do it, then why do we do it? 155 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 4: Like I was just scared him, so just I don't know, 156 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 4: kind of scared me. And then yeah, it wasn't until 157 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 4: Mom kind of threw me into it that I just 158 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 4: had to have a goat and then I felt that, yeah, 159 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 4: that urged to really go for it when I missed out. 160 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: And it was in What Have I Got? Twenty No, 161 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: it was pre twenty fourteen. When was your Can you 162 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: remind me when your Diamond's debut was? I've got it 163 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: in my notes he somewhere, but I can't find it 164 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: in the right paragraph. Thirteen twenty thirteen, and you debuted 165 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: before playing in the top level of the domestic league. 166 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: What was that like? 167 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I kind of done it in reverse, you 168 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 4: would say, hadn't played a professional game of netball and 169 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 4: then got the opportunity to play for the Family Diamonds 170 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 4: before make My I Am the championship debut. 171 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: At the time, it was surreal. It was like, oh 172 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 3: my god moment. 173 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 4: And I was in the Young Australian twenty one steam 174 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 4: at the time with all my teammates that were in Jamaica, 175 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 4: and I got the phone call from the Australia gun 176 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 4: to the coach and yeah, I just remember being on 177 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 4: the phone were I actually thought I was in. 178 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 3: Trouble because I got called to the coach's room and. 179 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: A scary moment and then out like I. 180 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 4: Was in trouble, and I was like, what's going on? 181 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 4: You've got a phone call, but well, what's happened? And 182 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 4: then when it was LEAs Alexander on the phone, I 183 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 4: was like, oh my gosh, and I just had this 184 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 4: like I thought that she was going to ask me 185 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 4: to come join the team, and when she goes it 186 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 4: came out of the mouth. I was like, oh wow, 187 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 4: getting me And yeah, I remember the coaches going, come on, do. 188 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 3: You want a shampoos? And it was like, to my layout, 189 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: come on too. But yeah, it was just such a 190 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: cool moment. 191 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, one that I looked back on and dig how 192 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 4: cool I got to do that before even playing like 193 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 4: a professional network game. 194 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's quite an incredible feat. How did it feel 195 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 2: walking into that program as quite a young person in 196 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 2: what is an incredibly well established team. 197 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was very I'm not the I'm very shy 198 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 4: type I there, particularly back then, not now that I Yeah, 199 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 4: it was just so not intimidated, but just get nervous 200 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 4: because all those girl like ladies were my idols, and 201 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 4: the thought of playing like alongside Monagerard and you know, 202 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 4: cat Pop and Aaron Bell, all these big name players. 203 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 4: I was just like the way I've watched you guys 204 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 4: on TV my whole network career, in the fact that 205 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 4: I had to line up against you sisters and arms 206 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 4: and seeing and and I'm like, how fool is that? Yeah, 207 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 4: I just was like this little young They all called 208 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 4: me a little rab still call me a little Rab 209 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 4: isn't sure, but yeah, it's just such a real moment 210 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 4: in the fact that I got the opportunity to step 211 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 4: out on court and make my debut over in England 212 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 4: playing alongside Monitorard was just like I was like, oh 213 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 4: my god, that is Yeah, probably one of the best 214 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 4: memories in my networkerit to be honest. 215 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 2: That's really something special. How does Kim now compared to 216 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: Little Rab back then. 217 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 3: Him now? I guess so much has changed. 218 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 4: In terms of Yeah, I'm literally putting myself in that 219 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 4: mindset now who I was then to who I am today. 220 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 4: I've went so much about myself and what I am 221 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 4: capable of. 222 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 3: I've built adversity, I've built resilience. 223 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 4: I you know, I'm just so grateful for the pathway 224 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 4: that I've had throughout my netbal career that has transformed him. 225 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: The adults about and the fact that I get to 226 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: be that role model for. 227 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 4: Georgie and just share those experiences with her actually grows up. 228 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 3: It's something that I'm so grateful that I. 229 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 2: Got to play this game for what have been some 230 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,719 Speaker 2: of the biggest challenges that have developed that resilience in you. 231 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 4: So many I think so many people would probably think 232 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 4: that I, you know, had this awesome career, and I 233 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 4: was so lucky that not many people know that it 234 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 4: was an awesomooth sailing. Earlier in my career, when I 235 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 4: was seventeen sixteen trialing for the News Supper of State team, 236 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 4: it took me three times back the made the team, 237 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 4: so I had step back the first time, which I 238 00:12:55,840 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 4: was talking about, and I didn't really care in that one. 239 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 4: But then the next time I tried, I really wanted 240 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 4: to make it, and I had so many people at 241 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 4: the time in that moment to me that you're heeing, 242 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 4: you trialed so well, you're definitely going to make it. 243 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 4: And I just got my hopes up and thought, oh 244 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 4: my god, this is it. And then I missed out again. 245 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 4: And it wasn't until the third time, lucky third time 246 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 4: that I literally blocked everyone out trial the best that 247 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 4: I could and just thought, look, if I don't make it, 248 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 4: then maybe I need to choose another more and gave 249 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 4: it my own. I checked the list again and my 250 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 4: name was there, and it just showed that, you know, persistence, 251 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 4: hard work that worked behind the scenes when no one's watching, 252 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 4: the ability to switch off mentally listen to those closest 253 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 4: to you and just do the work on your own game. 254 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 4: It's what really helped me to get into that team. 255 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 2: That you what was your experience like going through pregnancy, 256 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: giving birth to Georgie and then coming back to play 257 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: at the top level. 258 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, my experience through pregnancy. 259 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: It was another highlight of my life. 260 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 3: At the time. 261 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 4: When I felt pregnant with Georgie, I was actually going 262 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 4: through a bit of a lull with my net I 263 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 4: wasn't enjoying it at the time, and I was in 264 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 4: Melbourne playing for the Collingwood Magpies, and I was really 265 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 4: considering going back and playing for the reason And I 266 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 4: remember having fat with Ads about just going back and 267 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: we'd be a part, but we didn't have a hit 268 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 4: at the time, so it was just all like, this 269 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 4: is happening. And so then a couple of weeks later, 270 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 4: found out that I was pregnant and I was so happy. 271 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 4: It was like I went from this like not depressed, 272 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 4: but like real sad kind of netballer and then found 273 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: out that God or someone said We're going to put 274 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 4: you on another journey here and give you. 275 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 3: Another like least in life to experience motherhood. 276 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 4: And now that I think about it, I'm so lucky 277 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 4: go full and pregnant, because so many women struggle to 278 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 4: fall pregnant and I just happened to. 279 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 3: Poor pregnant. It was just like a miracle for me, 280 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: and it is a miracle. 281 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 4: And when you got for pregnant, so hard to fall pregnant, 282 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 4: and I didn't realize that until I felt pregnant, that 283 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 4: it was a miracle, like so many women struggle to 284 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 4: get pregnant, and I just happened to be one of 285 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 4: the lucky ones. 286 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: And so. 287 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: That experience for me, I was, you know, so lucky 288 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 4: throughout my whole pregnancy that I didn't experience any nausea. 289 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 4: I was able to train throughout my whole pregnancy. It 290 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 4: was almost like a training program finals for birthday, and 291 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 4: it was like pumped for it. And I was the 292 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 4: strongest I'd ever been pregnant, Like the hormone ki yeah wow. 293 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 4: I couldn't practice forty five bench press when I wasn't pregnant. 294 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 4: I was bening that fifty fifty five feelers how good? 295 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 3: And then post great pregnancy, I now bent sixty. 296 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 4: I'm like motherhoods what gave me these fin find all 297 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 4: like strength. But it was Yeah, it was pretty crazy 298 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 4: how good I felt throughout the pregnancy, and then the 299 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 4: birth experience was even better. I remember it took me. 300 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 4: It took me probably I think it was like twelve 301 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 4: hours to go through the processes what is it fabor. 302 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, later I got a kind of mind blake. 303 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 4: Dilatea Yeah, the dilating process is about twelve hours. So 304 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 4: tired my stomach carry my ads were so tired, my belly, 305 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 4: but yeah, it's the process of delivery. Georgie took fifteen 306 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 4: It was like a quarter of nevile. Was just like 307 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 4: holy crap. Like I was just like I shan't do 308 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 4: it again. Like the adrenaline was sick. I was just like, 309 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 4: this is awesome. 310 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: That's amazing. 311 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 4: And then like seeing her come out and then then 312 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 4: putting her on my chest, I was just like I 313 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 4: looked straight at Adham and I was like, oh, like, 314 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 4: we created this human. It's so crazy to think that 315 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 4: she's half me and half you. She looks way more 316 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 4: like him at the time, but it was just like, yeah, 317 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 4: one of the best moments in our lives. And then 318 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 4: in terms of like os the post Georgie and then 319 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 4: getting back to being physically at the top of my game. 320 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 4: It did take me probably like two or three months 321 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 4: to kind of get back into the group of training. 322 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 4: But yeah, I did take my time, but I also 323 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 4: listened to my body and if I could push myself, 324 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 4: I would, and if I needed a day off or breaks, 325 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 4: I would. 326 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 3: But I felt. 327 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 4: So good post delivering Georgie that I was back into 328 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 4: it pretty quickly. And then it was in that COVID 329 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 4: time of that COVID period, and I was in the 330 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 4: hub and the games were all on the TV, and 331 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 4: I was like, I I could go back and play, 332 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 4: but like, obviously, the only team I wouldn't want to 333 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 4: play for is the Queens and Firebird, and that meant 334 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 4: being away from Adam and Alban So that was probably 335 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 4: the hardest conversation we've had to have. I was only 336 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 4: twenty seven and I was nowhere, We're done with playing 337 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 4: Elite for or Network. So we came to the agreement 338 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 4: that I was to live out my career and achieve 339 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 4: all my goals because that's what's going to bring out 340 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 4: the best version in me, and I would have no regrets. 341 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 4: And he was very supportive of that, and he kind 342 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 4: of just pushed me to get back to full fitness 343 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 4: and just go for it because we were only going 344 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 4: to ever do it with Jeordie and not any other 345 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 4: kids in so she was going to experience her mom 346 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 4: and dad being an athlete together. And so, whilst it's 347 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 4: been very difficult being away from Adam and we've had 348 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 4: and our downs, coming back to a play Elie Network 349 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 4: has been everything I wanted in more. My first year back, 350 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 4: I think I won almost. 351 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 3: Every award, which is pretty sick. 352 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 4: It's amazing, Yeah, got the captaincy role, and now it's just, yeah, 353 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 4: I feel like I've kind of ticked everything off. I 354 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 4: wanted to do it more and I'm super grateful that 355 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 4: I've had, yeah, the opportunity to do all of that, 356 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 4: and that I've had someone so supportive to allow me 357 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 4: to do that. 358 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 3: And yeah, now I am. 359 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 4: Here and I'm still trying to see what else I 360 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 4: can offer, but yeah, I'm kind of at like this 361 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 4: point in my life now where i feel like I've 362 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 4: kind of done everything. 363 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: How do you feel being at that point? I turned thirty. 364 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 2: I think we were born, say y, I turned thirty 365 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: last year and It's weird. When you reach that milestone, 366 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 2: it's almost like suddenly conversations start to shift from people 367 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 2: in the sporting environment to thinking about retirement and thinking 368 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 2: about being the end. Is it something that you do 369 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 2: you want to push away? Like, it's not something. I 370 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: feel like my body's still good to go and I 371 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 2: want to keep playing. But is it something that you 372 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: start to think about or where do you sit with that? 373 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's funny you say that, because. 374 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 4: It wasn't until I hurt my spine that I really thought, Okay, 375 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 4: my body is telling me I need to slow down. 376 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 4: And that was at the end of last year that 377 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 4: I really thought, okay, I need to put myself first. 378 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 379 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 4: And as much as you know that stubbornness inside me 380 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 4: was like no, no, no, you got fine, more easan me, 381 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 4: my body was saying otherwise. And even the rehab, like 382 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 4: I access thoroughly enjoy rehabs. I love training and I 383 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 4: love working to a goal get back. But yeah, I 384 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 4: just had this moment where I just had to look 385 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 4: at Georgie and say, all right, you need to be 386 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 4: able to carry her. 387 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: You need to be able to. 388 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 4: Actually have more babies in the future, Like what is 389 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 4: more important to you at this point in your life? 390 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 4: And my life got the better of movie in terms 391 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 4: of my life. Yeah, oh, my life to be great 392 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 4: more than I want to do an athlete. 393 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: How did that process go if you're going through back surgery? 394 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 2: It's weird the parallels as we're kind of talking, because 395 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: I've had the same back surgery the micro discaped to me, 396 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 2: and it's a pretty confronting process as a young person, 397 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 2: like I always thought it was a surgery for older people. 398 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: Like to think about getting back surgery at a young 399 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: age is quite confronting. What was that process like for you? 400 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 401 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 4: So cool that someone else, Oh it was so scary. Hey, 402 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 4: because I am one person, I'm sure you're saying that. 403 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 4: You know, you do everything that you do your proverly. 404 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 4: You know, you push yourself, that you need to feel 405 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 4: like it's filled in you at such a young age, 406 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 4: that you need to get as strong as you can 407 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 4: the fuss can eat the right food, do your recovery. 408 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 4: And then when this happened to me, the hernietic and 409 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 4: I lost the feeling down my left leg. I woke 410 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 4: up in the middle of the night going to the 411 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 4: toilet just having that no feeling in my leg. 412 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:22,920 Speaker 3: I was like, what what have I done? You know? 413 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 4: And it wasn't up until that point where, like I said, 414 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 4: you drilled to do all those things, that it was 415 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 4: actually like, Na, you've actually got a thirty year old body. 416 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 3: Now you need to change your filing things. 417 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 4: And so it was more about the recovery side of 418 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 4: things and not so much pushing myself to that matt 419 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 4: where I was just like not walking at the end 420 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 4: of the day because I was like, oh, yeah, I. 421 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 3: Feel like I've pushed myself. I can't walk. 422 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 4: This is great, you know, But now it's nah, you 423 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 4: don't push yourself like that. You want to be able 424 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 4: to be walking at the end of the day and 425 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 4: feeling good. So it was just changing that mindset of 426 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 4: how you change your me. And it wasn't until I 427 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 4: had that bloody surgery that I had to realize that. 428 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 4: And that's what I'm trying to teach the younger girls 429 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 4: coming through now, is that you need to adapt with 430 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 4: your age. 431 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 2: The wide wise head teaching the young kids. 432 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I would just I'm such a competitor that 433 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 4: I didn't want the young one beating me. I always 434 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 4: wanted to beat the young one, you know, set the example, 435 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 4: be that leader from the front, and you know, you 436 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 4: know you're never going to beat me. 437 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 3: You have to trust so hard to beat me. 438 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 4: Like I've got Masie Gardner who has always wanted to 439 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 4: beat me in a yo yo, and up until I 440 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 4: had the back surgery. 441 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 3: I couldn't do the test in the yoyo, and so 442 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 3: she got four. 443 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 4: And then I remember I finally got kicked off to 444 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 4: do the yo yo with her, and she beat me, 445 00:24:53,080 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 4: and I remember coming up to me and going. 446 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 3: Dunk out. 447 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 4: I'm happy athlete, I was, but I said, it's your time, 448 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 4: like you prove it, it's your time to be the 449 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 4: center for this team. 450 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that. 451 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 4: It was such a good moment as well, because she 452 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 4: always tells me that I'm her idol, and I'm like, well, 453 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 4: and I can see so much of her in like 454 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 4: her in me, and so it just makes me so proud. 455 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 4: I just think that like even being in the team 456 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 4: with her now that I get the mentor you know, 457 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 4: see her like pipe girl on the side and just 458 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 4: you know, make sure that she's ready for the next 459 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 4: ten years of her career so that she doesn't end 460 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 4: up the way that I didn't. 461 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 2: A FEMA is a sports nutrition range made specifically for women. 462 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: They're changing the game when it comes to fueling our 463 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: female athletes, but they also recognize that all our bodies 464 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: are different, So whether you're a superstar netballer like Kim 465 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 2: Rebellion or an everyday active woman, Athena's products have added 466 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 2: benefits that experts know that women's bodies need. 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As your body ages and changes 475 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 2: and you go through chronic injuries or acute injuries, so 476 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 2: you actually do have to adapt your training. And it's 477 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: this weird thing because it sometimes feels like you're not 478 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: able to do as much and it's a real battle internally. 479 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 2: But it means if you do too much then your 480 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 2: body is punished and you can do then less with 481 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:48,959 Speaker 2: your team anyway. 482 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it was such a learning for me, and 483 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 4: I feel like Network is on the right path. Like 484 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 4: I know that the a in the AFL, so I 485 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 4: can get the first four years going in early doing 486 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 4: the pre preseason, and then the fifth or whatever he is, 487 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 4: go and do a bit later because they've got that 488 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 4: training age. Yeah, and I feel like we need to 489 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 4: introduce that into our sports as well, that you know, 490 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 4: the young ones fresh off the PAP needs to come 491 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 4: in and do a full pre season, but the older 492 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 4: ones that have been there for a while and have 493 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 4: that training age can come in at the halfway mark 494 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 4: and still be ready to go, but like four round one, 495 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 4: And I'm like, yeah, I'm a prime example of that, 496 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 4: someone who's got training age and will it's probably four 497 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 4: weeks to get back to fitness, I think. But yeah, 498 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 4: I'm just like that that's kind of how it should be, 499 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 4: because yeah, like I obviously having a partner in the 500 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 4: AFO and Adam the way that he does goes about 501 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 4: his business, and oh my god, I've learned so much 502 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 4: from you, and like even in like the Network program 503 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 4: in the way that stay blind for me, Yeah. 504 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 2: Early you touched on your communication with Georgie even though 505 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: she's only four years old. But you talked about the 506 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 2: fact that you like being communicated to in a way 507 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 2: that is not aggressive and yelling and things like that. 508 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,239 Speaker 2: You respond well to. What would you call it, just 509 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: like effective more gentle communication. 510 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 3: I guess yeah, halm, direct communication. 511 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 4: So that for example, when I'm doing a yo yo 512 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 4: this is a prime example, and someone's like, come on, Rob, 513 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 4: you can do it instantly, heart rate goes up. 514 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 3: I started to get stressed. 515 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 4: But if someone was to grab You've got there, You've 516 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 4: got this, you can do it instantly. 517 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 3: I'm in the zone. Just my breathings now, I'm just sae. Yeah, 518 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,239 Speaker 3: I got them. 519 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 520 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: I love that. Is that something you have communicated to 521 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: your teammates and coaching staff about, because I don't think 522 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: that's done enough where it's an individual approach to the 523 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: way people want to be communicated to. 524 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like yeah a day, the program has 525 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 3: grown so much. 526 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 4: We've got so many different well being people coming in, 527 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 4: sports psychologists coming in and enables the group to really 528 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 4: share their individual ways of one receiving feedback and delivering 529 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 4: it and how they like to receive it. So we 530 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 4: do have those conversations. It is hard because you've got 531 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 4: to do it to everyone. But I yeah, obviously, being 532 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 4: a captain and a leader, need to build those relationships 533 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 4: with my teammates and yet kind of get to know 534 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 4: them individually and know how they will respond. But for me, yeah, 535 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 4: that was one of the biggest things that I would 536 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 4: make it known. 537 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 3: I don't jell me. 538 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 4: I love that, and yeah, that's kind of the way 539 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 4: I give your deliver most of the things I say 540 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 4: to my girls. 541 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: Okay, a question I've been asking athletes on the podcast recently, 542 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: but I'm always curious on the answer, is what is 543 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: your favorite failure. 544 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 3: Failure? I did see this. 545 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 4: My favorite failure was not checking my period as to 546 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 4: say that I was twelve days late. 547 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: Well, the hew, that's cool. 548 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 3: I like that. 549 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 2: That's so good. And now you've got a very cute 550 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: little kid. 551 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is awesome. I think I can go. If 552 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 3: a check I would have known, I wouldn't care for 553 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 3: the world. 554 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 2: That's really cool. You've learned throughout your career to also 555 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 2: manage your nutrition and your diet, and I think you've 556 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 2: had a couple of iron infusions throughout the process as well. 557 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually had probably three over my career, and 558 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 4: now I've found ways to incorporate fine into my diet. Actually, 559 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 4: the best part of the new Athena brand that I'm 560 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 4: a part of. They have iron in their proplments and 561 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 4: in their protein cars and I absolutely love them because 562 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 4: it just helps me top up my own. But yeah, 563 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 4: I have found that I'm so full of energy. I 564 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 4: feel like even when I was an athlete without G, 565 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 4: I was more tired, and now having G like that 566 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 4: is one of the main things I really focused on, 567 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 4: is that I have enough energy to one be an 568 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 4: athlete and being mom because doing both is exhausting, and 569 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 4: then you never want to feel guilty. But some days 570 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 4: your struggle and you're tired. But if I'm managing my 571 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 4: iron levels and my energy levels, then I know that 572 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 4: I'm going to be the best athlete and the best month. 573 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 4: So it's been a work in progress that I'm finally 574 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 4: getting there. 575 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 3: And yeah, then I most of my time with G 576 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 3: is always fun. 577 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: That's really special. Reflecting on your career today, you've had 578 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 2: some very big victories and big awards. Do you have 579 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 2: a favorite? 580 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, all amazing memories, but I had to have 581 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 4: to Stay twenty fifteen as a Championship Grand final. My 582 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 4: first grand final win was the best best ever, that 583 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 4: feeling of you finally got a win, because it took 584 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 4: us three years to finally get We came second twice 585 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 4: and then the third time lucky. 586 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 3: Maybe it happens in three in my life. Third time lucky. 587 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 4: We got the gold against New South of Swifts and 588 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 4: it was like a robbery. I've watched the game back 589 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 4: and I think, how the heck did we win that? 590 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 4: But it happened, and yeah, I just remember being complete 591 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 4: shots all of us were, and just a celebrations post 592 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 4: that game were yeah, ones that I can still remember clearly. 593 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really special and the remainder of the season 594 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,959 Speaker 2: for you. What's it looking like this season? 595 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,959 Speaker 3: Mm hmm, oh god, that's a great question. 596 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 4: I think I'm currently trying to get a half injury, 597 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 4: so I'm actually doing a little bit of coaching on 598 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 4: the bench. It's been really really fun and different and 599 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 4: challenging in its own ways, but I'm really loving it 600 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 4: seeing it from a different side, but also I think 601 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 4: it's going to help my own my own game, I 602 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 4: think from a different side, and then hopefully when I 603 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 4: get back out there potentially next week training again. 604 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can whatever. 605 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 4: I've told the girls to play at my own game 606 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 4: and help them out just that last few. 607 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 3: Weeks that we've got left. I'm really end this year 608 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 3: on a heart. 609 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 2: Do you see a potential future in coaching once you 610 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 2: do finish? 611 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. 612 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 4: I really enjoy I do a fair bit of coaching 613 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 4: away from playing, obviously with the playble coach and you know, 614 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 4: doing one on one sessions with the young netbors already 615 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 4: at the moment, I really enjoy it. I love hearing that, 616 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 4: you know, one of my girls has made a team 617 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 4: and how excited they are, and they do do that, 618 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 4: so that gives me really well. But I would love 619 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 4: to get into an a little bat environment and coach 620 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 4: you know girls that are yeah, elite athletes and yeah, 621 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 4: just I love doing the analysis of it all and 622 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 4: coming up with defensive intertact instructors and just figuring out 623 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 4: ways to beat opposition. 624 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 3: And I really enjoyed them that stuff. 625 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 2: And still off the court, you and your sis suggest 626 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 2: started your own business, REVS Fitness. Can you tell us 627 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,800 Speaker 2: a bit about that. Yeah, So back. 628 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 4: In twenty nineteen, host giving Girth to Georgie obviously went 629 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 4: through that COVID period and everyone was stuck at home 630 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 4: and couldn't leave. We came up with a full bodyweight 631 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 4: home program and we just put it out on our 632 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 4: Instagram for free for everyone to join in, you know, 633 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 4: and just be part of a bit of a community 634 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:06,800 Speaker 4: that one exercise helps you mentally, but just yet enable 635 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 4: you to talk to other people online, because it was 636 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 4: very isolating that period. So we had like five hundred 637 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 4: people do it, and so we were like, oh, okay, 638 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 4: well that's good well being free, but maybe we should 639 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 4: actually make some money off this. So we decided to 640 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 4: put together a really really good eight week program and 641 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 4: then yeah, put a pass on it. So that eventuated 642 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 4: into the RAPS Fitness where now we kind of offer 643 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 4: almost everything. We do pilarities, we do strength programs, home 644 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 4: gym programs, pre personaty workout, get a nutrition on there. 645 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 4: We're going to add the athenogran into it as well, 646 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 4: and yeah, just really it's something that we love doing, 647 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 4: something that I love doing. I love being physically active, 648 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 4: picking every blox when it comes to my health, and 649 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 4: just yeah, even being that role model for Georgie, she's 650 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 4: always watched me work out, so it's always in her 651 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 4: sight when she sees me doing things. But yeah, this 652 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 4: app is just something that I do away from netball. 653 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 4: It's a good outlet, but yeah, something I really love 654 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 4: and passionate about. 655 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 2: It's really cool how well rounded it is. Like I 656 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 2: feel like I can tell how important the holistic approach 657 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 2: is for you on the court, but also off the 658 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 2: court in the business as well. So it's really cool 659 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 2: that you guys have incorporated so many of those elements 660 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 2: into it. 661 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, we have all these ideas and Jess 662 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,919 Speaker 4: and I are guilty of like throwing it all in, 663 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 4: but we need to make sure that we master every 664 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 4: single one individually. And you know, we started with the 665 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 4: netball programs and targeting you know, younger than netballers, and 666 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 4: so that's something I'm really good at. And then Jess 667 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 4: decided is obviously the parties, and she's such a gun 668 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 4: at that and kind of stick to our strength and 669 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 4: then we slowly introduce other things and yeah, it's really 670 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,800 Speaker 4: taken off and we love it and we love hearing 671 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 4: the feedback from our clients, and yeah, now it's just 672 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,040 Speaker 4: about so many people are doing it now. It's just like, 673 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 4: all right, what's the next thing that we can do 674 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 4: to you make ours the best? 675 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 3: So it's good. It's challenging, but yeah, we love it. 676 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 2: I love that. And to finish us off, can you 677 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 2: tell me who has had the biggest impact on you 678 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 2: as a person, the. 679 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 4: Biggest impact on me as a person? I woul one 680 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 4: hundred percent to say my dad. He it's not the actions, 681 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 4: it's what he says and what he says in the moment. 682 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 4: So big example his words is when I did miss 683 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 4: out on that state team, I knews our first state 684 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 4: team at seventeen years old. I just remember going to 685 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 4: dad and just saying, Dad, I just think I need 686 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 4: to play a different sport. And he just said, do 687 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 4: you love it? And I was like, yeah, of course 688 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 4: I do, because I'm like, why would I be so upstate? 689 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 4: I didn't and he said, well, He's like, if you're 690 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 4: only seventeen years old, there's no chance I'm letting you 691 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 4: give up on this. And he's like, you're going to 692 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 4: do the work to make sure that you're in that 693 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 4: team next year. And he said, if you love the game, 694 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 4: you're going to do whatever you can to make sure 695 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 4: that even if the next year trial and you don't 696 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 4: make it that you gave it all, because he's just 697 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 4: said you didn't give it your all, yet they give 698 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 4: it one more chance and just don't give up on it. 699 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 4: And so he just always knows what to say. And yeah, 700 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,839 Speaker 4: I'm forever grateful for that. He's just you know, he's 701 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 4: my biggest supporter. He he just hits me between the 702 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 4: eyes and doesn't beat around the bush. And yeah, he's 703 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 4: just always wearing my face. Yeah, and you know, blurting 704 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 4: it out on Facebook and his Facebook posts don't even 705 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 4: make sense, but of course it's Facebook friends are Mancell. 706 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 4: I was like, it's just thought that counts, but he 707 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 4: just yeah, you Alas says the right thing. And yeah, 708 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,879 Speaker 4: he's part of the reason why I kept playing the game. 709 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 4: And yeah, forever grateful for him. 710 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,839 Speaker 2: That's really special him. Thank you so much for your 711 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 2: time today and for your real honesty and vulnerability. It's 712 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 2: been a really special chance to get to know you 713 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,919 Speaker 2: a little bit better. So thank you so much. 714 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 3: No, thanks for having me. I'd love it be great. 715 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for listening. If you got something out 716 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 2: of this episode, I would absolutely love it if you 717 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 2: could send it on to one person who you think 718 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 2: might enjoy it. Otherwise, subscribe, give us a review, and 719 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 2: make sure you follow us on Instagram at the Female 720 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 2: Athlete Project to stay up to date with podcast episodes, 721 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 2: merch drops, and of course, news and stories about epic 722 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 2: female athletes