1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: She's on the Money. 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 2: She's on the Money. 3 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to She's on the Money, the podcast 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 3: for millennials who want financial freedom. Welcome back to another 5 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,080 Speaker 3: one of our Money Diary episodes, where this week we 6 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: speak to an epic money diarist who has three kids, 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 3: having started having children at the age of seventeen and 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 3: she's only twenty six now. She is beyond impressive. She 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 3: has her own small business. But one of the most 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 3: exciting things about this Money Diary is not actually the 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 3: Money Diary, is it Tony Lodge. Recently we've had Tony 12 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 3: Lodge join the team, and in joining the team as 13 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: our executive producer, she's one going to be putting our 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: podcast together, but me too. She's going to be joining 15 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 3: us every Monday moving forward to help bring to life 16 00:00:58,760 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 3: our money Diaries. 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: Hey, thank you for having me. 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: It's so exciting. 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 3: I am genuinely so excited about this because you are 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 3: a vision. You are a glowy human that everybody loves. 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 3: And she's also really funny, guys, like really really funny. 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: I mean, hease, don't put pressure on no, but like 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: not on TikTok. She's not funny on TikTok. 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: Funny on TikTok. 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: She tries, but she's not funny on TikTok. But that 26 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 3: is okay, and you know what she is. She's also 27 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: incredibly intelligent, so we are so grateful to have her 28 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: join the team. 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: But this is Money. 30 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: Diaries episode, so let's stop stroking your ego and get 31 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 3: into it. 32 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: Tony. 33 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 3: We got sent an email this week. Do you want 34 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 3: to read it out? 35 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: Okay? 36 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: Hi, she's on the Money Team. 37 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 4: I'm twenty six years old, married and a mum of 38 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 4: three boys. I met my now husband at fourteen years old, 39 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 4: oh Cue, and ended up falling pregnant and giving birth 40 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 4: at seventeen years old. We never had savings and used 41 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 4: every last cent of our income each week. Three years later, 42 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 4: I had my second child, and that's when I started 43 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,639 Speaker 4: my own business, something I could do from home around 44 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 4: my kids' schedules, and made that my full time employer. 45 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: Within a few weeks. 46 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: How good. 47 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 4: I went on to have my third child and continue 48 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 4: to grow my small business, but desperately wanted to buy 49 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 4: a home, no matter how long it took. Now we 50 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 4: have an over the top an incredibly detailed budget which 51 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 4: we love to hear. Money Divided into thirteen bank accounts 52 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 4: your tea, including an emergency account, something I never thought 53 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 4: I could achieve, and are well on our way to 54 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 4: our savings goal to build our first home later this year. 55 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 4: Crazy to think three years ago we would end our 56 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 4: pay weeks with zero dollars to our name, and now 57 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 4: we have numerous accounts with savings for everything under the sun. 58 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, how good is that? Amazing? Have you 59 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: finished the email? Can we chat to her now? Now? 60 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: Let's chat. 61 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: Obviously we can't use your name, and I can't think 62 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: of a good hustler name yet, but I'm so impressed 63 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 3: with your money, Darian. 64 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: Welcome to the She's on the Money Diaries. 65 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 5: Thank you for having me. 66 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm so proud of you and I 67 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: don't even know you. How good is that? All right? 68 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: So the way this is going to work, let's jump 69 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: straight into all those questions that we've got and then. 70 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: We can have a chat about all of it straight after. 71 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: Is that alright with you? 72 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 5: Yes? That sounds great? 73 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: All right? 74 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: As always, the first question is what is your attitude 75 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 3: towards money? 76 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 5: So I'm very con sit in with I want to 77 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 5: make sure every loss sent counts in our budget. I 78 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 5: don't like wasting anything, but it definitely has not always 79 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 5: been that way. For so long, we just like deliver 80 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 5: each week, and we did not have any sort of 81 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 5: goal or idea what we wanted to do with our money. 82 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 5: You just floated through on our bills are paid. We 83 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 5: were happy, but definitely very different. Now. 84 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: How good is that? I love when people know what 85 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: their journey has been like. 86 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: So satisfying looking back as well. 87 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: Totally all right, And what do you do for work now? 88 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: And how much do you currently earn? 89 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 5: So? I own a cleaning service, cleaning baby equipment. I 90 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,119 Speaker 5: earn about on track about thirty thousand this year. 91 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: Oh, how good is that? And it's all just like 92 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: on your terms. 93 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 5: So I just work from home. Sometimes I can work 94 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 5: an hour a day or seven or several hours a 95 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 5: day and get more work if I need to. So 96 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 5: it works really well for me around my kids. 97 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: All right, all right, onto the questions. 98 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 3: I've got so many questions, but onto the actual scheduled questions. 99 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: What is currently your big money goal? 100 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 5: Definitely to start building a home later this year. Hopefully 101 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 5: we can get to that goal. We're on track right now. 102 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: Exciting do you currently invest. 103 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 5: I do, but not the typical way everyone applies to 104 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 5: this question. So I was possing up between micro investing 105 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 5: or other investing, and I kind of had a lightful 106 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 5: moments that the whole reason I want to invest was 107 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 5: to set myself up in retirement. So being self employed 108 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 5: and only my sense and I put my money into 109 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 5: my super. I said to invest genius. 110 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: You've got a plan, girls, a plan. 111 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: Love that. 112 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: And you know what, so many small business owners just 113 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 3: forget to pay themselves super and they just don't consider it. 114 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 3: They're like, oh, I will when I can afford it, 115 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 3: and it's like, Oh, you're going to need to do 116 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 3: it now because otherwise it's going to be so much 117 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: more expensive to think. 118 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: About it later. 119 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. 120 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, so smart. I love that. 121 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 3: So do you currently have any debts? 122 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 5: Zero debt. We're paid off everything we have ever had. 123 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: Really, Oh my gosh. 124 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: And you're on track to buying your first property, started 125 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: having babies in your teenage years and you're killing it. 126 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: Oh I love this. 127 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: Hold on, Hold on all right, next question, what is 128 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:26,679 Speaker 3: your best money habit? 129 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 5: I'm very cruel. I like to make sure I get 130 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 5: the best price for anything we purchase, that's seeing food 131 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 5: or clothes or furniture, I will find the best price 132 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 5: that is guarantee it. 133 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: That is good. Have you got any tips for us? 134 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 3: How do we implement finding the best price guarantee Just. 135 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 5: Take your time, don't buy very fast, makes you do 136 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 5: lots and lots of research because you're guaranteeing and buy 137 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 5: something better at a bitter price. 138 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: I love that. 139 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 3: And in contrast, what's your worst money habit? 140 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 5: Ah? Probably take out just far too easy to drive 141 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 5: down a macas for dinner when you've had a long 142 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 5: day's work and you've got three hendry kIPS in the car. 143 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 5: So I definitely need to break that habit. 144 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 3: I feel like when I become a parent, that will 145 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 3: absolutely be me. 146 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of people that would relate 147 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 2: to that. Yeah, yeah, it's or not. Yeah. 148 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: I feel like there's so many people that always like, 149 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, yeah, when I have kids, I'm never 150 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: going to feed them non organic anything and they're only 151 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 3: ever going. 152 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: To drink water. And I already know that's not going 153 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: to be me. Like I already know have to be realistic. 154 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: Macis chips off, the kids can have them all the time. 155 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 5: I'm already not worth the fight. At night time. You 156 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 5: just have to give a macis instead of veggies exactly five. 157 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I'm totally for that because I know what 158 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: I'm like when I'm hungry, so therefore I know what 159 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: future children are going to be like, and I guarantee 160 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: you it'll be ten times worse than me. So give 161 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: them the macas chips. And they probably won't get the 162 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 3: diet Cocai order because it won't allow. 163 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 4: That I don't know, water obviously, unless it's a Friday, 164 00:06:58,839 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 4: they get a fantas. 165 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they can have had on Friday, all right. 166 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: And if I asked you to give yourself a grade, 167 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 3: what would you grade your money habits? 168 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 5: Probably ab because I definitely have room to improve. But 169 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 5: I've definitely improved from where we were only. 170 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: A b. 171 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 5: I just feel like I had so much more to learn, 172 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 5: especially when we do eventually buy a home. There's only 173 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 5: a whole new ballpark of bills. I don't even know 174 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 5: anything about. 175 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: Oh you're such a grown up. 176 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: I love you. I love you. Oh my gosh. 177 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 3: All right, we have so many more questions for you, 178 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: and we'll just to a quick break and then I'm 179 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 3: going to dive straight into them. All right, we are back, 180 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 3: and I am so excited to ask you some questions. 181 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 3: I hope it's not too pervy. But you mentioned before 182 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: you had your first child at seventeen, got into a 183 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: relationship at fourteen. How old are you now with three children. 184 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 5: I'm twenty six right now. 185 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: And so you've now got three kids and one of 186 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: them ages because I'm really bad at that quick match. 187 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 5: So they are nine or almost nine, almost six, and 188 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 5: almost three. 189 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: Wow, oh my gosh. 190 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 3: And how does that make you feel when it comes 191 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: to money, because obviously having a kid at seventeen, I 192 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: really doubt is a lot of people's plans. It's kind 193 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: of just something that you go, all right, well this 194 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: is happening, We're going to deal with it. But how 195 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 3: has that impacted your money story? 196 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,119 Speaker 5: So it's definitely made it more difficult or you didn't 197 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 5: move out. It's hard for anyone financially to move out, 198 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 5: but then have to throw on the extenses of kids 199 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 5: and have to make sure responsible right from the starts 200 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 5: you don't fall behind. It's hard and that sense, but 201 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 5: it also gives you kick up the bombs to do 202 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 5: the right things. From the start, So I didn't like, 203 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 5: we know, fell into a big set or anything in 204 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 5: those first years, which you know a lot of people do, 205 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 5: so that kind of helps. 206 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 2: I guess, yeah. 207 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 208 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 4: We talk a bit about how FOMO affects our finances 209 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 4: and our financial story on She's on the Money. Do 210 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 4: you feel like, because you were younger and having kids, 211 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 4: like your friends would have been going out and partying 212 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 4: and like spending a summer in Europe and things like, 213 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 4: did you feel like you had to service your family 214 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 4: but then also meet the standards of what your friends 215 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 4: were up to while you were young as well. 216 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: Do you feel like that affected you. 217 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 5: When I was younger, No, actually, because my husband and 218 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 5: I are quite quiet people. We don't party or anything. 219 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 5: But as you got older, we saw all our friends 220 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 5: at cheer, buying homes, just having these grand weddings. But 221 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 5: that's something that was never would never we'd be good 222 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 5: at tea as much as you as like to. So 223 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 5: I guess it's no when you were younger, but definitely 224 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 5: has you get older and realize you're falling behind where 225 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 5: everyone else is sitting in their life. 226 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 3: See, I feel like you've got it right, Like I 227 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 3: feel like maybe this is a very backwards opinion, but 228 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 3: when I'm because I'm turning thirty in the next couple 229 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 3: of months and I don't have kids on them, probably 230 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 3: a couple of years off kids, Yet I feel like, 231 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: when I have kids, you're going to have already gone 232 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: through that. So you're going to be like laughing at 233 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: me being older not having as much energy for these children. 234 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 3: You're like, mate, I'm done with that. 235 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 2: I have sleeper, it's already gone, get all gone. 236 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 3: So you can actually live your best life in the 237 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 3: period of time where you can generate great income and 238 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: like have a work life balance that works, instead of 239 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 3: also trying to make it in a career while having 240 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 3: a toddler that needs. 241 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: To be dropped off at daycare. 242 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 3: Like, your kids are going to be pretty self sufficient 243 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: at that point, So I feel like you might feel 244 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,599 Speaker 3: a little bit behind, But I guarantee everything's going to 245 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 3: come to a griddening holt for a lot of those friends, 246 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 3: and you'll end up being the ones that are like, yeah, 247 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 3: see cool, we're just popping off for the weekend. We're 248 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: having a great time, have fun picking up your four 249 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: year old from. 250 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: Daycare at forty Victoria. Yeah, that's what's going to happen. 251 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 5: I definitely, I definitely talk a husband a lot of that, 252 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 5: all the things, all places we're going to go to 253 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 5: when the kids are grown up, all the travel we're 254 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 5: going to do. You feel all more financially stable when 255 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 5: we go travel. Don't have to get credit cards to 256 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 5: travel or anything like that. 257 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that is so true, though, Like I 258 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: hate that you said you felt behind. I was like, no, 259 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, exactly on track. Like you sound 260 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: like a really level headed person. How do you talk 261 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: to your kids about money? 262 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 5: So we're quite open, so they know our budget. We 263 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 5: talk with them when I'm working it out. They sit 264 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 5: with me and they look at it. They obviously don't understand, 265 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 5: but they are understanding that we need a budget so 266 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 5: we can pay our bills. And they're watching us grow 267 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 5: our savings to buy a home, and they're italy waiting 268 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 5: for us to get to that goal just as much 269 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 5: as we are. 270 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 3: And when they get older, it's like having a fan 271 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: club of people who are cheering you on to my 272 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: first home. I feel like we'd all achieve a goal 273 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 3: much quicker if we all had a little fan club. 274 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I have like a visual thing on our whiteboard 275 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 5: of where we're got like half away. Jeeves and the 276 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 5: boys like, definitely make sure we don't fall behind or 277 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 5: skip a week of savings because they can see that. 278 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: So you want, so sweet? 279 00:11:58,720 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: I love that? 280 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 3: And to b Pervy again, what does your partner do? 281 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: And how much does your partner earn? 282 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 5: So he works in customer service and he earns about 283 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 5: fifty five thousand dollars a year. 284 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 3: That's pretty good. That's pretty good. And is he the 285 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 3: same age as you? You met at fourteen? 286 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: Yet? 287 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, he is the same age as me. 288 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: That is so sweet. 289 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: Are you guys are killing it? 290 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 3: I know. 291 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: I love love stories as well. 292 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: I love when people are like, oh, yeah, we met 293 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 3: at school and now three kids, Like it's so sweet. 294 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 3: So how do between you you guys meet your joint 295 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: money goals? 296 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: Like? 297 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: Have you always been on the same page about money goals? 298 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 3: Obviously you said that a home is something that you're 299 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 3: working towards. Do you have the same money values or 300 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 3: is that something that you come up against or you know, 301 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 3: talk to me about that. 302 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 5: My husband and I are definitely on the same track. 303 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 5: How the same goals of mine? So I sit down 304 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 5: and write the budget, and my husband's definitely with me, 305 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 5: agrees that the goals we want to achieve, and agrees 306 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 5: with them that we put into each account and we 307 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 5: have its joint account, so or am I just grossed 308 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 5: to one and just automative transferred to each account? So 309 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 5: we're all pretty happy and find it very easy to handle. 310 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 2: I guess so you said. 311 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 4: That you've got thirteen bank accounts, Like how do you 312 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 4: prioritize what goes where? And is that kind of how 313 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 4: you manage exactly what's where, or like what's your thinking 314 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 4: behind that? 315 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 5: So we have a very detailed budget. We actually download 316 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 5: one from money smart and it is amazing to get 317 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 5: all the details I need, and we supposit all our 318 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 5: income into one joint account. From there, we have automatic 319 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 5: transfers into thirteen different accounts for all the different bills. 320 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 5: So we have accounts for savings and blurred and growthries 321 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 5: and school and daycare and utilities and kidsidentals and you 322 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 5: name it, we have an account for it. So then 323 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 5: we know, like when money comes out of the account, 324 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 5: we're not going to take money from another account. It's 325 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 5: all evenly spread out. 326 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so good, And do you feel like that 327 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 3: actually just keeps you more on track, because there's not 328 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 3: just one big pot of money that you can be 329 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: tempted to dip into. 330 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, absolutely. Previously we had a bank account where 331 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 5: all our money would go into one bill's account. We 332 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 5: we'd call it. But it's so easy to actent spend 333 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 5: more on like a celebration than we expected, like a 334 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 5: kid's birthday, and then that takes from our regro for instance, 335 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 5: and then we'll get to the day regro is to 336 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 5: you and you're like, oh my god, there's not enough 337 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 5: money in here. Now. 338 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 3: Oh, that's so stressful, especially with three kids, that's a 339 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 3: lot to deal with. 340 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: How do kids? I obviously don't have children. 341 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 3: We've recently done an episode on having children and the 342 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: costs associated with giving birth, not actually bringing up children. Yeah, 343 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 3: but like what does that look like on a weekly 344 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 3: or monthly basis? Like what are kids on average? I 345 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: guess cost especially three of them. 346 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 5: Oh, they're expensive. 347 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: I can't imagine. 348 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of tiny teddies. 349 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. I think the biggest expense is daycare because our kids, 350 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 5: so our water kids for a public school, and just 351 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 5: the amounts on daycare for the month is enough to 352 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 5: cover their tie expenses for the public school for the. 353 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 3: Year much daycare per month, so. 354 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 5: Each days one hundred and fifteen dollars and they go 355 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 5: three days a. 356 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: Week one hundred and fifteen dollars a day to go 357 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: to daycare. 358 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 5: And we're not even like get a capital city or 359 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 5: anything like that, which is even more expensive. 360 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 361 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: I always end up really shocked about the cost of daycare, 362 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: which at the same time is going, you know what, 363 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 3: that's ridiculous, Like, that's so much money. You can also 364 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 3: see on the flip side, you're like, you know what, 365 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: it's my child and they're being looked after. But the 366 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: amount of daycare workers do not get paid is not 367 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 3: reflective of the amount of money that parents are paying 368 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 3: for them to go to daycare. And you what else 369 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 3: baffles me about this is that is a cost. 370 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: This is all personal opinions, so please don't take it 371 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: this advice, my friends. What it costs for a child to. 372 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 3: Go to daycare to me, in my opinion, is directly 373 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 3: related to your ability to produce an income as a parent. 374 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 3: So given it is a work related cost, why is 375 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 3: it not tax deductible? Ooh, interesting? Imagine if you could 376 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: claim daycare on tax how much easier life would be. Like, 377 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 3: I'm not even asking for daycare to be brought down, 378 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: just let me claim it on tax. 379 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 4: I think as well, because being able to send your 380 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 4: kids to daycare and correct me if I'm wrong gives 381 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 4: you a sense of independence and your own identity to 382 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 4: be able to work or whether that's time that you 383 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 4: spend being able to go to the gym or do 384 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 4: your own stuff, whatever, it is like all that life 385 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 4: admin that kind of pops up that you've got to do, 386 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 4: and you need that spare time just to be your 387 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 4: own person. It would be really like liberating to be 388 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 4: able to do your own thing. But I mean absolutely 389 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 4: it's very expensive to be able to do it. 390 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: But one hundred and fifteen dollars a day, that's like 391 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 3: more than three hundred dollars a week. That's what some 392 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: people are making in a week, which makes it completely 393 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 3: unequitable to be sending kids to daycare. Sometimes, no wonder 394 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 3: women are put in a position where they have to 395 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: choose between well do I just stay home. 396 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 2: Because then I don't have to outlay that exact money. 397 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 3: Once you have three kids under four and none of 398 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 3: them are at school. Yeah, that would be so expensive 399 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 3: and it feels so harsh to be having to make 400 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 3: decisions like that. 401 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I respect you. 402 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's no easy feat for sure. 403 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 5: It was definitely it's sending me proper for a long 404 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 5: time because of how expensive it is. But last year 405 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 5: during COVID, they made free childcare, so that definitely got 406 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 5: us to put our youngest into daycare because I relish that, 407 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 5: and then I realized how much I needed that because 408 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 5: I was so much more productive at work having our 409 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 5: children home. Yeah, abso lately couldn't call them out after that. 410 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 4: I know that you mentioned a little bit about like 411 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 4: what your business is before, but could you talk a 412 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 4: bit more about what your small business is and how. 413 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: Many start that. There's a mom of three, Yeah, that's huge. 414 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 5: So I own a business cleaning all things baby equipment. 415 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 5: It's a nice, easy job to do from home. I 416 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 5: started it. I previously work in a pharmacy and then 417 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 5: I was having a really hard time working there. I 418 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 5: had much about anxiety to think about even going to work. 419 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 5: And then my eldest son got really sick and was 420 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 5: in hospital and I had to call in, say calling 421 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 5: sick and I was to come in for a couple 422 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 5: of weeks, and the moment I hung up, I just 423 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 5: was such a relief from my constant anxiety that I 424 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 5: knew that was it. I had to find Yes. I 425 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 5: wrote my resonation email within thirty minutes. 426 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, you were like, actually, you know how 427 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 3: I said a couple of weeks I kind of meant, ever, yeah, I'm. 428 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 2: Not coming back. 429 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. So that was kind of push up the brew 430 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 5: up the bum to get a small business going, and 431 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 5: I had been thinking out the stages, so I just thought, 432 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 5: what the hell, I'll do it now, and it ended 433 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 5: up working out really well because there's no one in 434 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 5: our area that services me. 435 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 3: But that would be booming, right because surely like stuff 436 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: like prams and high chairs get absolutely filthy. 437 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, absolutely, and there's so many of them all 438 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 5: around Australia now ever since I found my business, so 439 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 5: it's definitely something that is very needed everywhere. 440 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 1: Absolutely, what a good idea. Yeah, that's so niche. 441 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 3: But also I love that she can just do it 442 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 3: from home. You don't even have to go to other 443 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: people's places to do it. 444 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also you could do it at your own pace. 445 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 4: As long as people had things when they needed it, 446 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 4: you could kind of sit at home and go like, oh, 447 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 4: I don't have time for that right now, I'll do 448 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 4: it in a second, you know, no deadline of Yeah amazing, 449 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 4: I love that. 450 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: I could do that. 451 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 5: But I'm too over the top of like, oh, how 452 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 5: did you get this done? 453 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 2: We're the same so I don't know why I even 454 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 2: said that. 455 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: Do no worry, Like, I totally get it. 456 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 3: It's good in theory, but then you yeah, no, it's 457 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 3: not how it works. But that's okay. That's a conversation 458 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 3: to have over on the Business Bible. Yeah, well, money diarist, 459 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 3: It has been so so lovely to have a chat 460 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 3: with you today. Thank you so much for sharing your story. 461 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 3: I'm so excited that we get to have these conversations 462 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 3: each and every single week with members of our community 463 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: where they get to share their story and we get 464 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 3: to know all the perfect details about how they live 465 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 3: their money lives. 466 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 5: Thank you for having me. 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