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Speaker 1: You know, there are shows, and there are shows, and

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Speaker 1: next Tuesday night, March twenty five, at the ASTA, there's

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Speaker 1: going to be a show the Stranglers are playing. Tickets

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Speaker 1: are available through Ticketech and we are very fortunate to

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Speaker 1: have JJ Burnell join us this morning. Hello, legend based

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Speaker 1: guitarist and co lead vocalist of The Stranglers. Now, Jjo,

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Speaker 1: there's something that's always baffled me a bit about the Stranglers.

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Speaker 1: You've always been described as British iconic punk band, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, clearly something transcended that genre because to me,

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Speaker 1: you I don't think punk is the first thing that

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Speaker 1: would come to my mind. You just had a genre

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Speaker 1: to yourself, a unique sound to yourself.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that. Yeah, I think that the

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Speaker 2: punk label is kind of limiting or else we extended it,

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Speaker 2: expanded the definition of it. Yeah, but we grew up

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Speaker 2: in that period with all the other bands playing the

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Speaker 2: limited circuit that we were allowed to play at that time.

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Speaker 2: But fortunately for us, you kind of tried to experiment

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Speaker 2: and see how far we could go with the limitations

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Speaker 2: of our very limited talents. That well, we weren't dictated

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Speaker 2: to by commercial reasons, so you know, some things we tried,

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Speaker 2: and some things succeeded and other things failed. But you know,

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Speaker 2: if you love music, you try to extend all the

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Speaker 2: sources of inspiration and try to be inspired by those.

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Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, I do the contrary of what you're

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Speaker 3: saying there, and I think it was your individual and

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Speaker 3: your pull the resources and skill and then the carriage

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Speaker 3: to move on, you know, La Follo and oural sculpture.

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Speaker 3: There's beautiful albums with some beautiful sounds, and then you're

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Speaker 3: selling yourself short.

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Speaker 2: I think that you well, you know, you either every

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Speaker 2: music wants to be successful, so once they if you've struggled,

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Speaker 2: and then you find a formula. A lot of musicians

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Speaker 2: suddenly stopped developing because they keep up with that formula.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think that's too short. You know, Let's

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Speaker 2: see how far you can go, and sometimes you will

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Speaker 2: carry an audience with you and other times you won't.

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Speaker 1: Well, the answer to how far you can go. This

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Speaker 1: tour is part of the band's fiftieth anniversary celebrations. Did

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Speaker 1: you always think we'd be celebrating.

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Speaker 3: Fifty years or amazing?

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Speaker 1: Worry pitching yourself?

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Speaker 2: Well, last year was the fiftieth and I think we're

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Speaker 2: extending the fiftieth to this year, here's for the next fifty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where does it begin? You think about, well, seventy

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Speaker 3: seven to nineteen ninety A lot of albums in those

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Speaker 3: early days. I have to go back to the first

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Speaker 3: album to say Peachs is one of my favorite baselines

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Speaker 3: for yours, for you coming to the party there, that

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Speaker 3: was just that. And I think of you, and I

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Speaker 3: think of the band and it just takes me back.

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Speaker 3: But can you play a gig without playing Peaches?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Well, you know, you can't fool an audience. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And if you're just going through the motions the band,

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Speaker 2: it's boring for the band and the audiences. So we

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Speaker 2: have occasionally dropped Peaches, for instance, and even Golden Brown.

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Speaker 2: Really we just didn't feel feel for these songs anymore,

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Speaker 2: and then you rediscover them a bit later.

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Speaker 1: Oh classic, So well, I mean it must I do

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Speaker 1: feel for you, though, with so many top forty singles,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to curate a set list because we'd be

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Speaker 1: here all week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and there are other cities expecting you.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's true. It's I think as USA in France,

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Speaker 2: lomberhand embarrassment of riches.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly right for choice.

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Speaker 3: I mean a sound like Golden Brown greening Field's beautiful music.

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Speaker 3: We're very sad when we lost him, but it was

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Speaker 3: right at the start of COVID time, wasn't it. But

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Speaker 3: when you when you play Golden Brandon must you must

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Speaker 3: feel like a tribute to his music because he came

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Speaker 3: up with it, didn't have a beautiful keyboard, thank you. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you speak of France. That's where you live right right

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Speaker 3: in Rose Country there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's tough. I have in the South my

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Speaker 2: motorcycles days of the year. Yeah, like if I was

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Speaker 2: living in w A. You know. Yeah, you know what.

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Speaker 2: A few years ago we three of us ride motorcycles

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Speaker 2: and a few years ago we were really fortunate to

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Speaker 2: be loaned three motorcycles by Trials dealership. I won't in

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Speaker 2: Perth and they they lend us these. We asked them

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Speaker 2: if we could rent out or hi bikes and they said, no,

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Speaker 2: we don't do that, mate, but you can have them. Sorry.

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Speaker 2: My issue was to ride down to Market River. Being French,

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Speaker 2: I love wine, yes, and I think Margaret River produces

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Speaker 2: some of the very best wines in Australia.

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Speaker 1: You won't get any argument.

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Speaker 2: So we wrote down there. We wrote down to Margaret River.

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Speaker 1: What well, as someone who lives in the south of France,

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Speaker 1: it would be remissible not to really to compare the two.

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Speaker 2: Tell me what was it like.

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Speaker 1: Touring in Japan in the seventies, So, yeah, I believe

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Speaker 1: you were like the only foreign band at the time

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Speaker 1: to tour there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know if we were the only ones,

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Speaker 2: but certainly it was. It was a revelation. It was

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Speaker 2: they were the most polite augiences right used to that.

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Speaker 2: We were used to rally British augiences and were also

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Speaker 2: in Australia. We had some very wealthy Georges and they

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Speaker 2: sat quietly and then at the end of each song

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Speaker 2: they stood up and applauded and then sat down again.

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Speaker 3: There's no Japanese mosh pitch. It was no scrapping. Yes,

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Speaker 3: can you tell me I talked about patures. I'm obsessed

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Speaker 3: with that bassline, But can you tell me what happened

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Speaker 3: to that bass guitar, because I believe there's a story.

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Speaker 2: The bass Well. Interestingly enough, Adam Clayton from you two

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Speaker 2: made an offer for it last year so that they

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Speaker 2: could put that bass guitar in the YouTube museum which

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Speaker 2: they're developing in Dublin. So I sold it to him

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Speaker 2: because it was unplayable. Yeah, I've smashed it up so

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Speaker 2: many times way back then that it was you couldn't

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Speaker 2: play it. But he still wanted it for their YouTube museum. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: brilliant you two and now the crowd owners of that

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Speaker 2: particular guitar.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, being the bass player, I would have loved that.

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Speaker 3: That would have meant a lot to him to be

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Speaker 3: able to purchase that.

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Speaker 1: JJ. You're fifty one years in. But do you remember

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Speaker 1: the first time you heard yourself on the radio?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, sure, and I kept on hearing it

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Speaker 2: back back again. I've kept on playing it.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: You know in those states, you could record a cassette

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Speaker 2: off the radio, you know, you had those cassette players

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Speaker 2: and just press the recording. Yes, the radio.

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Speaker 1: You had to hope that the DJ didn't talk all

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Speaker 1: over the beginning radio jobs. That's fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Well just quickly, J before you go. Things have changed, right,

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Speaker 3: just a little bit from the days when you guys

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Speaker 3: would be fighting and scrapping whilst on tour. You know,

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Speaker 3: blood on your stage, blood on guitars, that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 3: What's what's it like now for you?

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you were It's it's much safe. People actually

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Speaker 2: come to see us, not to chase us off the stage.

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Speaker 1: Love it well, you're going to love the Asta Theater.

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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful place to for a show. The Stranglers

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Speaker 1: are playing the Asta Tuesday, March twenty five. Tickets are

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Speaker 1: available through ticket tak. Lovely to catch up with this

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Speaker 1: morning JJ all the best, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Very much, and were looking forward to coming back to w.

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Speaker 3: We hope you can get down to Migrants. Yeah, down

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Speaker 3: to a door absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know we last time we were there because

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Speaker 2: we went down the river, yes, and right up to

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Speaker 2: the edge of the ocean. We also went up to

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Speaker 2: a little town on the what was it called Bird

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Speaker 2: Strange Birds and the city. Yeah, and then we went

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Speaker 2: to a circuit, went to a classic bike We rode

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Speaker 2: up to Seabird. There was a eucalyptus forest on the

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Speaker 2: way and there was also a racing circuit. Were doing

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Speaker 2: a classic bike races.

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Speaker 1: Perfect. Well, look, if you can't don't have time to

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Speaker 1: get down to Margaret River. Just going on a bike

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Speaker 1: into the Swan Valley. There you'll find some nice wine too,

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Speaker 1: so northeast to person I will, I can vouch for.

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Speaker 2: That, but if we can't get down to Margaret and

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Speaker 2: we can at least drink some Barbareick River.

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Speaker 1: Produce, absolutely definitely not have that on the rider.

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Speaker 2: Thanks. Thanks, thank you. Have a great day than