1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Get a I'm Lola Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter, 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: and professional overshaer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn, 4 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as well as their lows, 6 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: all in a bid to inspire us to furiously fail. 7 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to the pod. 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 3: I've got a really calm, grounded, also very stunning guest 9 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 3: for you on the pod today, Australian supermodel Sam Harris. 10 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: Now we'd never. 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: Met before this podcast, so it's always not a bit 12 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: of a lucky dip, but you just don't know how 13 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna like how your chemistry is going to be 14 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: with a guest, and Sam was a delight super humble, 15 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 1: super her, honest and a massive animal lover. As soon 16 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: as we stopped recording, was showing me pictures of it 17 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: pooch and it was. 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: A really really nice chat. 19 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: I hope you love this, just really honest and sweet 20 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: human being that is doing some really cool stuff. 21 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: Sam, You're a champion. 22 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: Sam Harris, Welcome to the podcast. Thank you for making 23 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 1: it happen on this random occasion where I've been stuck 24 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: in Sydney and you're here. Can I quickly do a 25 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: shout out to your incredible management asiency? 26 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 4: They're amazing, aren't they. 27 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: I came here and I feel like I've made three friends. 28 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 2: What did you say? You've been mis cheek for eighteen years. 29 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 4: For eighteen years, ever since I started modeling in two 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 4: thousand and four, so you can. That just shows how 31 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 4: good they are and how lovely they. 32 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: Are, honestly, like I was chilling here like coffee anyway, 33 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: My point is you're in this very You've got a 34 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: very cool game, very good hands. I'm so excited to 35 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: talk to you for so many different reasons. But I 36 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: want to unpack some of your career and the earlier 37 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: part of your career. So first of all, you grew 38 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: up not too far from where I live right now, no, right, 39 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: and where it's flooding yes, yes, yes as we speak. 40 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 4: Yes. 41 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: So where did you grow up? 42 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 4: I grew up in tweetheads love it yeah, and you know, 43 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 4: I just I grew up in a housing commission. I 44 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 4: grew up with in my household. It was only a 45 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 4: small house, but it was a very busy household. It 46 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 4: was my mom, my dad, my older brother, my little brother. 47 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 4: My older brother had a girlfriend and then she had 48 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 4: a baby. So my niece and my mum raised my 49 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 4: two cousins. Well I say cousin with them like my 50 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 4: brother and sister. 51 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: How cool. We like one so much love around, so much. 52 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 4: Love, and it was a crazy house. But I wouldn't 53 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 4: change it for the world. 54 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: Is it true that, like the age of four, your 55 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: mum would take you to like is it like a 56 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: beauty pageant? 57 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess so. I think even before, like when 58 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 4: I was a little young, they have they have little 59 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 4: baby pageants and things like that, so I think every 60 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 4: does that for their child anyway. But yeah, when I 61 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 4: was four, they used to be like in store, like 62 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 4: in shopping centers, like you know, they have all stages 63 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 4: and their little runways, and yeah, Mum would take me 64 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 4: take me to those. And I was a really shy kid, 65 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 4: Like I was really shy. So I don't know why 66 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 4: I loved it, but I loved it and it was 67 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 4: just something me and mum did together and I really 68 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: enjoyed it. 69 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: Do you think that's where the love of modeling kind 70 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: of started from? 71 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 4: I think so, because I started doing the pageants at four. Yeah, 72 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 4: I never I never won, Like I would make it 73 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 4: to the next round and I'd always come runner up 74 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 4: or just which is good, but like but it'd always 75 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 4: be the blonde goal gold coaster you kind there, the 76 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 4: beachy kind of girl where we I'm Beachi. Everyone can 77 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: be Beachie. 78 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: Fast forward face of sea folly. 79 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly so, And I'm so excited to talk about, 80 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: like how you've seen the changes in their industry, Like 81 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: even this morning, there's stories written about you being like 82 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: one of the most influential diigenous models. 83 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: Is yeah, I haven't seen it. It came out. I'll 84 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: send it to you. I'll send it to you. Were 85 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: now in stevents, I'll flick it to you. 86 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: And you came out as like one of the most influential, 87 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: Like I was like mate, so okay, so when you 88 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: were younger, you'd always kind of come run up. But 89 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: is it true that you were like Okay, So if 90 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: I can model, I'd love to get like big w 91 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: km out Yeah, target that was the pinnagle for Yeah. 92 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 4: When I was when I first started modeling, or not 93 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: even when I first started modeling, Like I even did 94 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 4: something ridiculous when I was probably like eight or nine, 95 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 4: I stuck my school photo on a magazine. Oh I 96 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 4: love that, yes, and be like, look, mom, I'm in 97 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 4: a magazine. She's probably thinks Smith, but what are you doing? 98 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 4: But you know it's kind of cute, I guess, but 99 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: so cute. 100 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: Well that's manifesting in its best form, right exactly. 101 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 4: You know it was a school photo book. You know 102 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 4: it was a picture. 103 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: Nonetheless, what I love your brain already. Okay, so talk 104 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: me through when you're thirteen years old, mate, because that 105 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: was what a massive turning point in your career I imagine, 106 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: and a. 107 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 4: Very in my life as well. 108 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so thirteen. 109 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 4: So my mum was with my uncle and there was 110 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 4: this tiny little snippet in a newspaper and it said, 111 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: you know, girlfriend model search. It was in two thousand 112 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 4: and four and I was in Brisbane and Pete my 113 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 4: uncle gave to my mum was like oh and then 114 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 4: to Samantha and that and you know, me and my 115 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 4: mom my little brother went up to Brisbane. It was 116 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 4: again it was rain. It was raining like this and 117 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 4: my mom my mom hates range, hates wind of all 118 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 4: things to be. 119 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: Spared to tweed too. Like that was a place at first, right. 120 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's terrified of win my mum. Anyway, she took 121 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 4: me up to Brisbane and we stayed the night, but 122 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 4: the next morning we got it really early. I was 123 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: the first girl at the model search and Urshula my 124 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 4: my manager. Now, she was like, oh, you know, just 125 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 4: come back, you know, I have some breakfast. And I 126 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 4: came back and I filled out my form and all 127 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. They took a photo and that's 128 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 4: I didn't really think anything of it. 129 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: I was that simple. It was that simple. 130 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 4: But the hundreds of girl to enter in in Queensland, 131 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 4: I haeps the girls. I was like, what makes me special? 132 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 4: Like there are so many beautiful girls? And I was 133 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 4: that shy, like I think. I just stuck my head 134 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: down it to game the form and they took a polaroid. 135 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 4: Sheeks still have the polaroid to this day and still 136 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 4: have it. And this was the day where so so 137 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 4: that all happened, and then two weeks later, if you 138 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 4: were a finalist, you would get a phone call. Yeah, 139 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 4: and you know, the two weeks had come and I 140 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 4: was like, oh, you know, just seeing in the back 141 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 4: of my mind. But again I was like, you know, 142 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 4: They're not going to call me. You know, I've always 143 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 4: been runner up and thinking, so why would they call me? 144 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 4: And I remember watching a movie with my family and 145 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 4: my phone was on silent and I'm gonna miss called 146 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 4: from weird number. I was like, Oh, that's weird. My 147 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 4: heart started pumping a little bit and I was like, oh, 148 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 4: I imagine, and my mum got cranky because I didn't answer. 149 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 4: I had the whiting chance of the phone and you know, 150 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 4: you should have had it on loud. But then they 151 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 4: rang back and I was literally I was gobsmacked, like 152 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 4: I was speechless that I was one of the six 153 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 4: finalists out of Australia. 154 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: So what happens when you become a finalist? You then 155 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: have to go somewhere and choot, like how does it go? 156 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: So you become a finalist and then they fly to Sydney. 157 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,239 Speaker 1: Keep in mind I've never been on a plane before 158 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: my whole life. Yeah, this is gonna feel massive, and 159 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: I was. I was so scared. I was like, you know, 160 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: I've never been on this, Like this is fancy. Like 161 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm a little girl from Tweetheads. I've never really been 162 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: to Sydney either. 163 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 4: I was terrified to get on the plane, but the 164 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 4: air hosts start all lovely because you know, you're a 165 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 4: little kid. Yeah, but at the other end they had 166 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 4: someone from Girlfing magazine to pick you up. 167 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: They took you to. 168 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 4: An apartment where you met all the other finalists. It 169 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 4: was fun, like, you know, everything was pink and you 170 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 4: remember back in the gay day, girlfriend was kind of stuff. 171 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: Girlfriend was like a bible. Yeah, oh my god. 172 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so what were the other finalists like, like, did 173 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: you feel like you stood out as far as like 174 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 1: were you like, I don't think I'm gonna get this someone. 175 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: To run rap again. 176 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 4: Well, I was the only black ones far out, and 177 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 4: I'm not like, I don't quote me, but I'm not 178 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 4: sure if there was ever an indigenous finalist yeah at 179 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 4: this time. But yeah, a lot of the girls, like 180 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 4: you know, they were all bid. Girls were all lovely. Yeah, 181 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 4: they all had lighter hair and. 182 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that the beach for the Australian beach baby, 183 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: yeah got it. 184 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 4: But yeah, and it was just little old me that 185 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 4: wouldn't say books. I was really sure. 186 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: So okay, so you get to Sydney, you find your finals, 187 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: You're like, oh my goodness, pinched me, I've been on 188 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: a plane. Tick great, like all the So how was 189 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: the process then, Like, did you then all have to 190 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: do a massive shooting separate and together or we did? 191 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 4: It was a whole day of shooting again, it's like, 192 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 4: you know, we're all kids, girlf makes it fun. We 193 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 4: had a group shot and then a single shot. Yeah, 194 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 4: my single shot is oh my hairs. I used to 195 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 4: the blonde streaks was the thing. 196 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: That was the thing in the early two thousand, So 197 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:43,600 Speaker 2: I feel like you were on trend. 198 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 4: If you look back now, people like, oh my god. 199 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: But yeah. 200 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 4: So we had a single shot and then you got 201 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 4: a questionnaire and I think maybe maybe a few weeks 202 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 4: later after the magazine had come out, then they announced 203 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 4: the finalist and yeah. 204 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: Oh mate, and then and then. 205 00:08:58,880 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 4: You and then I didn't win. 206 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 2: Yes, so then what's here, that's what's gonna say. So 207 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 2: then what happens? 208 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 4: Then we all got signed with CHIC and the rest 209 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 4: is history of being CHIK for eighteen years. 210 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: Oh my yes, So there was a happy ending. 211 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: And then did that spurt on because I then read 212 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 1: so like and tell me if I'm getting my timeline 213 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: is wrong. My brain is a bit like a ping 214 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: moll machinine, it just goes everywhere. Yes, totally two thousand 215 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: and nine New York you're shooting in? Was it New 216 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: York with this incredible French fashion photographer? 217 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 4: No, two thousand, Great about two thousand and nine after, 218 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 4: but I think it was two thousand, and I'm really 219 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 4: bad at massive numbers, and. 220 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: Okay, that makes me feel a little bit better. 221 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 4: So I was with I've been with chic and I 222 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 4: think I would have been six, fifteen, sixty or seventeen. 223 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 4: Are they flument to New York to shoot with Patrick 224 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 4: d Michelle for like Iconic Beauties? Again, I'm young, I'm 225 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 4: still a teenager and this amazing photographer that. 226 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: Had you been to New York? No, And I was. 227 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 4: Already like Sydney's big So I was like, holy, oh 228 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 4: I got you. I was terrified. I was like, oh 229 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 4: my god, Wow, why is everyone in a rush? Where 230 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 4: are you going? Yeah? 231 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: It would be so different to tweet, it'd be the opposite. Yeah, exactly, 232 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: So you share with this incredible photography, which I. 233 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 4: Now I understand how amazing it was. But again I 234 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: was young, and I was like, you know, this is cool, 235 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 4: which it was cool, but yeah, I didn't understand how 236 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 4: exciting it was. 237 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: Oh woe and did that then spur off. 238 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: It was that like another moment where you're like, Okay, 239 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: we're on this ride now. 240 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think I thought too much into it. 241 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 4: I was just more excited to be doing what I 242 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 4: wanted to do, like I always wanted to be a 243 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 4: model ever since I was young. Like I didn't have 244 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 4: any plan. B Thank god it worked. Could you imagine? Oh, 245 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 4: what the hell am I going to do? 246 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we're full disclosure, we've never met until right now, 247 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: and you're I can tell you're a very good egg. 248 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure you would have landed on your feet no 249 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: matter what you did. Okay, So then Sea Foley, right. 250 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 4: Oh that was amazing. That was very cool mate? 251 00:10:58,280 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 2: So how that taped me through it? Did then you 252 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: get a call? Was your manager? 253 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 3: Like? 254 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, sit down. 255 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, but even like I think, even before I think 256 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 4: I got did my Vogue cover? 257 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: Oh my god, of course we've got to talk. 258 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 4: About yes in two thousand and nine, which you're getting 259 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 4: mixed up. Thank you. 260 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: Okay, give me two thousand and nine, give me this 261 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: situation and then we'll go. 262 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 2: See. So I was I was actually in London. 263 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 4: I was going to do London Fashion Week and I 264 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 4: was doing castings there for about a month and a 265 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 4: lot of the castings I went to they were like, 266 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 4: you don't look European. 267 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: It's like, oh, whatever, I'm not European. 268 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 4: That's why. 269 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 270 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 4: Anyway, but I get a call from my manager in 271 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 4: Sydney and they're like, oh, we're going to bring you back, 272 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 4: like you're not going to do fashion week and I'm like, oh, 273 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 4: I was just like you know, being here for a month. 274 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 4: I was like, that's frustrating. It was like a better 275 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 4: be a good reason why I'm coming back. Yeah, You're 276 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 4: shooting the cover of Vogue, all right, I'm coming Oh my. 277 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 4: And I think that year earlier, that year that I 278 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 4: did my first aid editorial in Vogue, i shot the 279 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 4: Mumichmum newmu collection. Yeah, and I thought that was the 280 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 4: most amazing thing ever that I was in Vogue And 281 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 4: now they want me be in the bloody cover. 282 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 2: I was like, wow, Oh was the whole day like 283 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 2: a dream? Doesn't feel like a dream? Do you that? Shoot? 284 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't. I can't even Actually the cover was 285 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 4: the first shot of the day. No, yeah, see. 286 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: That's pretty exciting to capture that energy too. Not to 287 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: get too spiritual on you, but like, that's pretty cool. 288 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: Shot in Sydney. 289 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, shot in Sydney. I think I flew in that 290 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 4: day and then I went to the shoot. 291 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: Look at you. 292 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: I forget how incredible models and actors are the same. 293 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: They can live this very nimble life where you. 294 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 4: Just yeah, you just do what you have to do, 295 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 4: Like obviously it's an amazing thing, but yeah, it's just like, Yep, 296 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 4: we're gonna do it. 297 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: You can understand why people use the slogan stay ready, 298 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: because you need to be in the right headspace and 299 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: just go, Okay, I feel good, I can do this. 300 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: Yep, yep, oh wow, okay, holy smokes. 301 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: Okay, So you have to tell me about your mom's 302 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: framed copy O. 303 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: I love this. 304 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 4: So my mom, you walk into my mum's house, it's 305 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 4: like a shrine. I'm like, Mom, do you have any 306 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 4: other kids? I'm her only girl. So she would like 307 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 4: back in the day, she'd always like if I shot 308 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 4: for just jeans or anything, she would go into the 309 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 4: shops and answer the posters. She would have the posters 310 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:07,319 Speaker 4: up on the wall. 311 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 2: What a legend. 312 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 4: So she has like she's got all my clippings and 313 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 4: everything since I started. She hasn't all laminated. 314 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: Oh, my mom does this too. My mom does this too, leamonaated. 315 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: My mom's got her own lemonading machine. 316 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 4: Oh she's gone one better. Yeah, she can do anything. 317 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: But you'll literally visit. 318 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: She'll take a photo and like by the end of 319 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: the visit she's like, heah, I laminated that photo. 320 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 4: I juste get wrecked. 321 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: Now that's so she so this Vogue because yes, because 322 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: your cover is framed, right, but your mom's taken it 323 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: to a whole new leve. 324 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 4: My mum's taken a whole new like she it's got 325 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 4: a big beautiful gold frame around. She got professionally done 326 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 4: and it's the glass. I don't know what kind of glass, 327 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 4: but it'll never fade ever, Christine forever. 328 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: What are legend? 329 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: She has my Vogue cover and she's done the same 330 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 4: to my year twelve formal, Like there's a full shot 331 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 4: of me and this by side. 332 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 2: Oh it's a good formal photo. 333 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 4: Well, dress with Alex Perry. He gave me a dress. No, yeah, sorry, 334 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 4: that which is really cool. What color did you It 335 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 4: was a pink. It had like a bit of sequence. 336 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 4: Miranda Kurr wore it in his show. Oh so stop, 337 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 4: I still got a mum's got it. 338 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: Speaking Miranda Kerr, You so when you did David Jones, 339 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: was that with Megan Galeen Miranda Kurr Or was there 340 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: a big there was something you did together. 341 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 4: Me and Miranda we were ambassadors together, Yeah, which was 342 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 4: really fun. Like we shot New York and we had 343 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,119 Speaker 4: to Palm Springs. 344 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: I love Palm Springs. 345 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 4: Oh I do. See, it's amazing. It's so cool. 346 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: I feel like you would probably like La over New 347 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: York and like as far as like it's a bit 348 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: more chill. Yeah exactly. Oh my goodness. Okay, okay, there 349 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: is so much stuff. 350 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 4: I'm getting emails from the Palm Spring Hotel and I'm like, oh. 351 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 2: Mate, just go back. 352 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 4: That's a time. Yeah. 353 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: I live part in La, so you'll have I'm sure 354 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: you've got a mazillion mates over there in La. 355 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 2: Yeah really yeah, Oh wow, that's cool. Yeah, very lucky. 356 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 4: I love it. 357 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: I mean in a little area called Lost Feelers, it's 358 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: kind of like a bit hipster and chill and artsy. 359 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, Black Byron, it's kind of. 360 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: Got a Byron? Yeah, yeah, sort of. I mean you 361 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: can't beat Byron, like can you. 362 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm fully digressing here, but I'm just loving I'm loving it. 363 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: Okay. 364 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: So there are so many things that I want to 365 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: talk to you about. You've done so much stuff. Okay, 366 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: when you did that cover of those, were you this 367 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: second Indigenous Australian or woman. 368 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 4: Indigenous woman ever to be on the cover of Folk 369 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 4: And I think the covers were like ten years apart, 370 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 4: so it was a huge gap. Like I'm proud of 371 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 4: being the second second Indigenous woman on the cover, but 372 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 4: why was there such a huge gap? 373 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 2: Totally? So, and that's my next thing. 374 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: Obviously, you are in the thick of you you work 375 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: as a model. Have you noticed over the years a 376 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: change in diversity? 377 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 4: And yeah, like, yeah, definitely diversity. Like there's so many 378 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 4: more indigenous models out there, which is amazing, so many 379 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 4: different body shapes and every like it's you know, modeling 380 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 4: is celebrating everyone, which I think is cool and I 381 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 4: think that's how it should be. Like, you know, I 382 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 4: can't look at, you know, a girl and which is 383 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 4: wearing a size six and think, oh that outfoot will 384 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 4: look like that I mean because that's not that's not 385 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 4: my body type. 386 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 387 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 4: And for you know, for me to be a model 388 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 4: and to see looks at girls and we look similar, 389 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 4: be like, that's what it would look like. I may 390 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 4: imagine the rest of the country, like you know, all shapes, 391 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 4: all sizes or races how like, it's awesome. 392 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: And I train in acting as well. Sorry, you're getting 393 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: a crash course in who I am as a human too, 394 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: But the same things happening with roles on TV movies 395 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: and different age groups. There used to be saying over thirty, 396 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: you'll never get an acting unless you're a mum. You'll 397 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: play only a mum. And I remember thinking in drama school, wow, 398 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm four years over. Jesus, I've got 399 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: mom rolls now right, And it's completely changed, like so 400 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: for females, for just any like, and I love, like 401 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: what a time to be a lot? I know, are 402 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: you so part like you would be helping? So I 403 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: imagine people write to your time and like, oh my goodness, 404 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: you inspire me to chase my dreams no matter what 405 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: kind of thing. 406 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: Do you get that kind of thing? Yeah? 407 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 4: And I do, and I really like I love it 408 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 4: it makes what It doesn't make me feel little bit old, 409 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 4: but you know, may, I can't stay young forever. 410 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: I agree with how old you are. I'm five years 411 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 2: older than you, so you same age as my husband. 412 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 4: Oh there you go. 413 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that. That doesn't make me feel 414 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: too old. So thank you. 415 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 4: Okay. 416 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: I actually I want to talk. 417 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: To you about beauty stuff because the whole reason why 418 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: I got you on this podcast is because Janta time 419 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: we tell me about who you're an ambassador for. 420 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm an ambassador for Lacaco, their beauty range, they 421 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 4: all their beauty Colligen range. And you said you had 422 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 4: some this morning and my coffee. How amazing is it? 423 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 4: I literally like, I'm not one to just talk about things, 424 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 4: you know, anything, but I have. I have the kakadu 425 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 4: plum and vanilla in my smoothies every morning without foul, 426 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 4: every single morning. 427 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: I will say, guys, pretty stunny. She looks pretty stunning 428 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: right here in front of I. 429 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 2: Got blonde hair, and my hair has it talked, But 430 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 2: I just tastes amazing. 431 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 4: And it's just the whole company is great, Like they've 432 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 4: got obviously the beauty collagen they have, It's all Ketho friendly. 433 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 4: I'm not Keto personally, but they how good though. Yeah, 434 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 4: it's just and it's Australian owned. It's a small business 435 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 4: in Australian owner and. 436 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: You're so passionate about that, right. 437 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 4: I love supporting Australian companies and you know things all 438 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 4: things getting like imported here and things like that, or 439 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 4: they're bigger brands. But when I support our businesses. 440 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 2: Like a great I think as well. Now that we're 441 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: talking about food and beauty and stuff, I'm a nutritionistuff. 442 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm so excited to know what a day in the 443 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: life obviously, Like I imagine your day has changed completely because 444 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: you're either on a shoot or. 445 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: You're on a plane, or you're here or are you there? 446 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: What like ideal if you're you're like, okay, I'm working 447 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: from home today, I was doing admin and stuff. 448 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 2: What would a day in the life like, eating wise be. Yeah, 449 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: I kind of. 450 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 4: Eat the same thing every day because it's easy me too, 451 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 4: Ye don't worry. But every morning, like I again, I 452 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 4: have my smoothie. I have. 453 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: My smooth go for it, mate, yeah give us virgo, 454 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: give me all the details. 455 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 4: So I have just put mostly water and then a 456 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 4: little bit of oat milk, just to love milk. I 457 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 4: have half a banana, my Locaco Kakadu plum and vanilla 458 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 4: protein powder and a teaspoon of peanut butter and just 459 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 4: wizz it up. 460 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 2: And I love that bit of peanut. 461 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 4: But it's just like a milkshake. It's so nice. And 462 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 4: I have a sweet toot, so it's called me too. 463 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: I've heard you say that I love sweeties. 464 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 4: And then just like during the day, like I'll have 465 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 4: like one of the lo carcos they have beauty, like 466 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 4: their Colligen bars, which are beautiful, I know, and I'm 467 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 4: gonna have to get or they have like they do 468 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 4: brownie bite sage or I've got like a big cupboard 469 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 4: full of CaCO It's amazing. And then I'll just have 470 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 4: like a salad rap like a meat and salad or yeah, 471 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 4: well I'll have like scrambled eggs and toast or something. 472 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 2: I love scrambled for lunch. I sometimes will make dinner 473 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 2: and then enough for lunch the next day. Yeah, you 474 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 2: sometimes do that. 475 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 4: I do that too, But in my house, if there's 476 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 4: leftovers in the fridge, they go to low Hunt. So so 477 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 4: that's what I do have left foon fast from last 478 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 4: night and it's like, don't eat it. I'm coming home 479 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 4: from work. I want that. 480 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: And then so your dinners can just depend on what 481 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: you guys feel like and stuff. 482 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 4: I've been loving keish. Yeah, am I going to make 483 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 4: a keche tonight and it's just with some puff pastry 484 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 4: you know, again for tomorrow and yeah, easy, I'll come. 485 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: Over for dinner. Now that sounds unreal. That's so funny 486 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 2: that you love and keach feels. 487 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: So it's really it's like an old it feels nineties. 488 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 2: I was like, I feel like I just got transported 489 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: back to the day. I love it. Do you ever like. 490 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: If you know you've got a really big shoot coming 491 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: up and you're like, I'm going to pull the sugar 492 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: back and stuff like, oh you like try to keep 493 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: refined sugar out? 494 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 4: Do you try it? Like I do? Don't like, don't 495 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 4: get me wrong, like you know I'll have I do 496 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 4: have a sweet tooth, but I do the older I'm 497 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 4: getting like, you know, sugar's not too kind to anyone, 498 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 4: But I just you feel better when you had it back, 499 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 4: Like it's just all about how I feel like you 500 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,880 Speaker 4: put good fod in your body, you feel really good. 501 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's why I do it. 502 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 4: And you know, I think being I remember looking back 503 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 4: being young, eating healthy, suf eating, but like it's just 504 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 4: a lifestyle, Like I just it's just how I live 505 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 4: my life. Like I don't think of it as you know, 506 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 4: restricting or any diet. It's just being happy and healthy. 507 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what I always sound like, do whatever 508 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: makes you feel good. Yeah, that's my whole all my clients, 509 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, just like what works for me is not 510 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: going to work for you, and like just for anybody though, 511 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: like and what works for me doesn't work for my. 512 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 2: Boyfriend and what you know what I mean. Like and Luke, 513 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's a little bit differently. What has to 514 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 2: eat a bit? Boys? 515 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 4: He eats so much they. 516 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 2: Could eat all day long. Boys. 517 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 5: Yes, so you think, Yeah, okay, okay, I've got some 518 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 5: questions that I'm just like fascinated to ask because you've 519 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 5: got this amazing like calm, grounded energy. 520 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: But obviously you've you live a fast paced life, especially 521 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: I know COVID changes things a little bit for people 522 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: that travel. But like the way you were like and 523 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 1: I did that, Shoot, I just flew in from London, 524 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, like all that kind of thing. So what 525 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: would you say is the one if you had to 526 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: break down your driving force, Like why do you do 527 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: what you do? 528 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 2: I know these are really philosophical questions. In my favorite though, 529 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: why do I do what I do? 530 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 4: Because well, I love what I do, Like you know, 531 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 4: it's it's not as easy as what people would assume, 532 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 4: and it's more than just taking a pretty picture, like 533 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 4: you know, you've gotta be in your game all the time. Yeah, 534 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 4: but I think the older I've gotten, you know, I've 535 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 4: grown to know who's smant the reason what I wanted, 536 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 4: what I don't want, and what I like and things 537 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 4: like that. And again I inspire, like I inspire so 538 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 4: many people and they're the I'm the reason they're modeling, 539 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 4: which I think is really cool, and I can just 540 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 4: go down different app like it's not just modeling now, 541 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 4: it's you know, like a be a role model. You know, 542 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 4: ambassadors for you know, Australian owned companies and I'm an 543 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 4: ambassador for a good Will, ambassador for World Vision. So 544 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 4: we got to a remote indigenous community. So it's so 545 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 4: much more than just standing behind a camera, which I 546 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 4: really like like people get to know who's smet that 547 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 4: Harris is. 548 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love happys. Did you do dancing with the stuff? 549 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: How on earth was that so hard? 550 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 4: It was so hard and I'm six foot tall and 551 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 4: like you can't do like so the girl is supposed 552 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 4: to be shorter than the guy. I was taller than 553 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 4: my partner, so we were saying high but obviously we 554 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 4: had a little tiny hill. So I'm a bit taller, 555 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 4: so you have to I had to bend more and 556 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 4: you can't do flips because I'm too tall. 557 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 2: And did you injure yourself at all? 558 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 5: No? 559 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 2: I went on and broke ribs. 560 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, she was just like went so hot and I 561 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: was like, oh, because you're training every day, right, Yeah. 562 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: I fully digress then, because when you were talking about it, 563 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: because you're like, you know, I've got passion for all 564 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: these other things, and you're like, it's not just being 565 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: on camera, and. 566 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: I'm like, hang, and I've seen you on cameraon. 567 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: Like well moment, so and you also do stuff at WWF. 568 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 4: Talk to me about Anna being an animal nerd Oh, 569 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 4: I love animals. I haven't been able to do anything 570 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 4: for like obviously because COVID had hit but I'm looking 571 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 4: forward to being going just going out and you know, 572 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 4: just seeing what they're doing in the country and things 573 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 4: like that. So I'm very excited about that. But I 574 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 4: am well, obviously I love that was one with WWF, 575 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 4: But I do have two beautiful animals. You were just saying, yes, 576 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 4: I have a dog and a cat, Spidercus and Anubis. 577 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 1: Spidacus and a Neubis. What do those names mean? They 578 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: feel very really Yeah. So Spidacus like you know, three 579 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: hundred yeah, yeh yeah, yeah, we used to have it. 580 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 4: We lost our cat last year shar cancer, poor darling Pegasus, 581 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 4: so it was Pegasus, Spidacus and Anubis. So we're getting 582 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 4: this puppy. Our friend had the mum and the dad, 583 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 4: so the bull terriers and amazing we saw and we 584 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 4: saw a puppy like he's black, he looks he has 585 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 4: a rot with wheeler colors, so forgot it. Yeah, beautiful 586 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 4: and the tan bits. Yeah, we were like, what are 587 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 4: we going to call him? And Luke was just like Anubis, 588 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 4: like you know, the Egyptian god with the jackal hair 589 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,360 Speaker 4: and the ears standards of. 590 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 2: Course, so good. 591 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, legends, good name your kids? 592 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 4: That could you imagine since my son and Nus'. 593 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: Like you never know, never know, but yes, yes, I totally. 594 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:02,959 Speaker 2: I always. 595 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: I have a list in my phone of animal names, 596 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: do you yeah? 597 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 2: My favorite? 598 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 4: I don't have animals. 599 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: Well, I've always had my dad's of it. I've always 600 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: grown up with animals. 601 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: But because I live half in bar and half now La, 602 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: we don't want to fly them around, and so we're 603 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: just waiting to We've got a bit more grounding to 604 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: kind of animal Like what would you get to, mate? 605 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 2: Give me them all? Yeah, to them all? 606 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: I love, I love so I do love a little 607 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: Hotelian Greyhound because I love him. They're so cute, so funny, 608 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: my friends and makeup eyes, you know, I know Max, Mate, 609 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: he's got a. 610 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 2: Little one Frank. It always comes to set cute. 611 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, my dog is just a big bulldozer. Like we 612 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 4: have a like we joke when we when we're walking 613 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 4: it's like Moses. People just go, yeah, it was terrified 614 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 4: of me and he's so sweet. 615 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 2: Isn't that? 616 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 1: But that's just what people think about when they see 617 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: different types of breeze. 618 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 2: But okay, okay, I couldn't without animals anyway. 619 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 1: So this podcast is called fearlessly failing, and I want 620 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: to know, like for people to get to the level 621 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: of that you're at, usually there's a really strong sense 622 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: of resilience, and I guess I want to know, Like 623 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: do you get scared? 624 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 2: Is my question? Like how do you feel fear? And 625 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: if you do, what's your how do you handle it? 626 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 4: Oh? I do get scared, like in the work like workwise, 627 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 4: I guess I wouldn't get I would. I guess it's 628 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 4: kind of scared. But like you know, you always I'm 629 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 4: always thinking, like you know, train like you know, I 630 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 4: train hard and I eat well, So I guess that 631 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 4: could be a fear of you know, you know, not 632 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 4: being on your game. But I think the older I've gone, 633 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 4: I guess I said before, it's more of a lifestyle thing. 634 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 4: So I don't get scared in that aspect, Like right, 635 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 4: I'm scared of it. I'm scared of everything, like you know, 636 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 4: anything anything in life, like things scare me. But I 637 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 4: think the older you get, it's either you you go, 638 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 4: oh this is too hard, or you know, you don't 639 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 4: want to look back and say you didn't. 640 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 2: Try, right, So no regrets. 641 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: It's kind of like what propelled because I was gonna 642 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: say what propels you through when you're. 643 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,439 Speaker 4: Like, oh, that's a bit or I'll tell my husband 644 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 4: and you know he's he's very kind of like not 645 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 4: not much scared here, So oh great, So you've got like, yeah, 646 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 4: I've got someone someone behind me just kind of you know, 647 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 4: saying you can do it, and you know, teammate. 648 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: What about failing, Like, so a lot of people see 649 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: failing is a bad thing, but I think failing is 650 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: an amazing Yeah. 651 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: Well it's just what not to do again, or you 652 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 2: learn from it, you grow, you learn. 653 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: Is there any experience where you're like, oh, that kind 654 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: of in the moment felt a bit like I kind 655 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: of stuffed up, But then you look back and you're like, 656 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm so where that happened? 657 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 2: Because is there anything that comes to mind? 658 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 4: Oh, there's things like things that come to mind, like 659 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 4: I guess go on to castings and you know, you're 660 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 4: so excited for this brand and you don't get the 661 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 4: job because you know you're just not the look they're 662 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 4: going for, Like it's not nothing about you, but you 663 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 4: know that they've already had in the head, like the 664 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 4: creative side of things like that. That sucks sort of like, 665 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,959 Speaker 4: you know, I do remember being younger and like an 666 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 4: outfit didn't fit and you know they don't. Nothing said, 667 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 4: but it's you. It's the fact the facial expression and 668 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 4: as a little you know, as a younger girl really 669 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 4: upsets you. Like it's like, you know, I can't help it, 670 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 4: like fucking bigger clothes. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, like and 671 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 4: I was, I was young, but now I look back 672 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 4: and I'm like like, if if that's what you know, 673 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 4: if that's how people are going to perceive you, like 674 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 4: it shows more of them than me, Like, oh, you know, 675 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 4: who would who would make who would want to go 676 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 4: out of their way and make someone feel like that? 677 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 4: What a terrible thing to do. 678 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally totally, And I think it's not. 679 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: I'm glad that you shared that though, because there is 680 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: an amazing side to your job, but there is also 681 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: like a confronting side as well, where things like that 682 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: can and. 683 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's you know, modeling, it's how you look 684 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 4: like you know me, but as you know, the order 685 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 4: I've gotten, you know, I just be the best version 686 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 4: of myself. I don't compare myself to anyone, which I 687 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 4: used to when I was younger. I just want to 688 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 4: be me and be as happy and healthy as I 689 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 4: can be. Love it. 690 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: What about loneliness with traveling, because I imagine again pre COVID, 691 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure that you were on a plane every five seconds. 692 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: Yes, get lonely. 693 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 4: Well mostly like I didn't travel overseas that often. I 694 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 4: would always travel around Australia, but they were always you know, two, 695 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 4: three nights, four nights, so not that long. 696 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 697 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 4: So but you know, you call my mum, called my husband, 698 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 4: like yeah, check in. 699 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 700 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: What about dream gig? Is there something where you're like, okay, 701 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: I have You've had a very amazing career in my friend, 702 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: But is anything that you're like, okay, no, I really 703 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: want that's something that i'd love to do. 704 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: Is there anything in your bucket list not. 705 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 4: Really think of? Like, I just just want to keep working. 706 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 4: And because it's always something different. It's never the same job, 707 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 4: which is good, so it's always something you're starting something new, 708 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 4: you know, being on the cover of Voguain wouldn't go Astralia. 709 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, if see if anyone's listening, right, got it? Got it? Yeah? 710 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,719 Speaker 2: Just I don't know, just just still working. 711 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 4: And yeah, well because of COVID, like obviously we hadn't 712 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 4: you know, shoots were you know, we weren't as busy 713 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 4: and things like that. So now that you know, the 714 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 4: rest of the country is kind of going back to normal, 715 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 4: I'm just excited to see where it takes me. I'm 716 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 4: very excited. 717 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: Oh I'm originally from Melbourne. It's good city, good, good, 718 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: great coffee. You get a nice long black Oh, best 719 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: coffee in Melbourne. What about Like, is there a dream 720 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: location or anything where you're like, I would love to 721 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: go and shoot mal dive. 722 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 4: That's exactly exactly what I was about to say, the 723 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 4: mal dives. 724 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: I have actually been. Can I give you a tip? Yes, 725 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: swim with whale sharks? 726 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: Oh my god? 727 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 4: Can being scared? I'm scared of I'm scared of everything. 728 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 2: Scared whale sharks. So they're like labradors. 729 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 4: Yeah I know that, but like I'm scared of sea animals, 730 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 4: all sea animals, all sea animals. 731 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: Really yeah, dolphins? 732 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 4: Yeap. 733 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: Do you know what one of my dreams is, you're 734 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: gonna flip. I want to go to Norway and swim 735 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: in the wild with walker whales. 736 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 2: What I love? I love I love toll the wales. 737 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 2: I think they're really cool. 738 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: They're very violent, they're apex. They can decide if you 739 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: live or die. Yes, yes, that's cool. 740 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 4: Now that is I would It's not my choice because 741 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 4: I'm going to do that. 742 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 5: But do you know your. 743 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: Initial results is like what you can also, I'm thinking 744 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: I might go in sop. 745 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 2: And and you can can't in Canada. You can kayak 746 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: with them, which might be a nice medium. 747 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 4: Have you not seen them like when seals are on ice, Yes, 748 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 4: they flip on them, like what if they flip with 749 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 4: flippy touch? Would they don't? 750 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 2: But they've never heard a human in the line. Oh yeah, 751 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 2: that's found. 752 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 4: Well I suppose. 753 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I tell myself. 754 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. 755 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: Okay, But the one thing I will say, if you 756 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: go to the mal Dives and you do a shoot 757 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: there and you're there for a couple of days, you've 758 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: got a little bit of time to kill, which I 759 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: imagine happens. You're on a location, you've got a bit 760 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: of time. Yeah, bring pubstar and then. 761 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: He can go swimming with them and you can tell 762 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 2: me what it was like. 763 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: Do you know you can actually wake up in the morning, 764 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: get out of your bed, get in the walk straight 765 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: into the ocean. Oh, that's amazing, and that's Can I 766 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: say this if someone that's scared of sea life, it's 767 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: clear the water, like you can see. 768 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 2: If you can see what's around me, you'll be fine. 769 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 4: Nothing's going to eat me. 770 00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 2: No, nothing only nothing only I've a mess. He'd be like, shit, moral, Sam, 771 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: damn it. What about what's on for you next? What's on? 772 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: How so you go to Melbourne next week? What about 773 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: how does the rest of the year so you're staying 774 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: in Australia. 775 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 4: Yes, so yeah, Melbourne next week. Actually I go the 776 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 4: Blue Mountains day after for a shoot, so Saven. 777 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 2: Night shoot there beautiful. 778 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it just things just kind of like they just 779 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 4: pop up here and there, which is nice. 780 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: So oh so good, you know. And not to give 781 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: you a career advice or anything. You would be a 782 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: great author. Have you thought about writing a book? 783 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 4: Well? I have, but I'm also like when I thought it, 784 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 4: I was like, don't you need to be a bit 785 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 4: older to like. 786 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 2: You know, mate, I wrote my first one at twenty three, 787 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 2: did you? Yeah? 788 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 4: Obviously not this one. 789 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 2: No, that is number eleven, so you can one, right, 790 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 2: you should? 791 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 4: You should write a book, like I think it would 792 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 4: be cool to do, like a. 793 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: Like about your life, got an incredible story. 794 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: And even when you said at the start, like I knew, 795 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: I knew like the location of where you grew up 796 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: from from, but like I didn't know that there were 797 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: you know, I knew it was a big family. I 798 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: didn't know you're in a really snow living situation. I 799 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: had no idea, you know. And then do you think 800 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: having like that, because you're obviously so ground and you're 801 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: so worthy, no flies on you. 802 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? 803 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: Do you think would you attribute that to like a 804 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: really tight family? 805 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 4: You know, I think so, And I think just growing up, 806 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 4: Like you know, I grew up and I'm happy in that, 807 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 4: but I'm growing up. We didn't have a lot and 808 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,719 Speaker 4: things like that. So I'm very grateful. And one thing 809 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 4: my mum did drum into my head, don't forget where 810 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 4: you came from. Like, you know, I'm traveling around the 811 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 4: world and you know, living this glamorous life sometimes. 812 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, I still go home, and I 813 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 2: go home. 814 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 4: I've got I've got to follow my washing that's in 815 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 4: the dryer, and you know, things like that, and I've 816 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,560 Speaker 4: got to go prep my cache, my nineties. 817 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing a pato of this 818 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: on Stories later or something. I saw an interview of you. 819 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: You just walked a runway show, this would be you know, 820 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm obviously effing up the total timeline today, but I'm 821 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 1: going to say around twenty twelve. 822 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 2: That's what I want to say. 823 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: Okay, and this you're on a run What it was 824 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: like when Fashion TV was massive? Oh you remember that 825 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: that it's on YouTube and she's like, so this this 826 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: This girl's like, so, what's your dream? 827 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 2: Do you remember what your answer was? No, you said 828 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 2: I wrote down. 829 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: Australia's first Aboriginal supermodel. 830 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 4: Did I say that? 831 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 3: Oh? 832 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 2: I would have been, well you've been tiny. Oh that's 833 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 2: so good, but how dream? But how cool? That's that 834 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 2: was it? And you're just like flat out You're like, yeah, 835 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 2: that's my dream. And she's like, well, yeah, well on 836 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 2: your way. 837 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: But look at how much you've done and you can 838 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: call like I would call you. 839 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 2: You're killing it. You're doing so so well. 840 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,919 Speaker 1: And even when I was like researching chik Management's page 841 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: of view, I was like, oh my god, so many covers, so. 842 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 2: Many beautiful shoots, and. 843 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: You as such a vibrant, beautiful human being and I 844 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: believe in it inside and out. So, Samantha Harris, thank 845 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: you so much for jumping on this podcast. I know 846 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 1: you knew nothing about. 847 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: So thank you. I really appreciate you, appreciate you spending 848 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 2: time with me to meet you need too. 849 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. 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