Speaker 1: I think something we always were really adamant about with
Speaker 1: our music and just in general with ourselves was we
Speaker 1: don't want to be just good for a girl. We
Speaker 1: want to be good. We get asked our age a lot,
Speaker 1: which is fine, but I've never heard a boy band
Speaker 1: get age. A lot of people ask about when you
Speaker 1: guys going to stop and start thinking about having children,
Speaker 1: which I was like, well, can't you do both. Whenever
Speaker 1: people are embarrassed about things, I'm like, there's always probably
Speaker 1: going to be one story that is your most embarrassing,
Speaker 1: so anything that happens after that it's not as bad.
Speaker 1: And this was my embarrassing story that I would never
Speaker 1: live down.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to our special Under the Influence episode.
Speaker 2: On today's show, we speak to musician and media personality
Speaker 2: Ella Jermaine. Ella is one third of indie pop siblings
Speaker 2: Jermaine The trio, who grew up in the Adelaide Hills,
Speaker 2: are taking the music industry by storm, recently opening for
Speaker 2: Little Mix and Ronan Keating. We spoke to Ella about
Speaker 2: how she got her big break, the challenges women face
Speaker 2: in the music industry, and what it's like to rub
Speaker 2: shoulders with your idols Well Ella officially welcome to Outspoken.
Speaker 2: It feels weird talking to you formally because we've just
Speaker 2: had a lot of chat off Mike.
Speaker 3: The probably can't be ed.
Speaker 2: I just thought we might start off by actually talking
Speaker 2: about how we know each other, because I think it's
Speaker 2: kind of interesting how we all met because you're obviously
Speaker 2: part of well three Sisters and where three sisters accept
Speaker 2: Kate's not here, but yeah, so how did we all meet?
Speaker 1: I think we had a mutual friend at Channel seven,
Speaker 1: Beautiful Josephineeto. She was a camera woman there, and she
Speaker 1: is like, oh, you go, you would love the tourers,
Speaker 1: And we were trying to picture which sister would like
Speaker 1: had the similarity because of obviously us three sisters and
Speaker 1: you guys. So I think I was teamed with you
Speaker 1: Sophie and they're like, oh, like she's the girly girl.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not that, But I feel like I've got
Speaker 1: a good connection with all the three of you.
Speaker 2: I think Josie said we were both boy crazy as well.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. She just Josie and I were like
Speaker 1: powers all through UNI and she used to just always
Speaker 1: be on She'd hack into my Facebook and just chat
Speaker 1: to anyone any man that was online or anything like that,
Speaker 1: or update my status with something embarrassing. So and she
Speaker 1: used to always love giving me staring me up a
Speaker 1: little bit about fellas. But that's all right.
Speaker 2: It definitely wasn't Sophie's musical ability. No, no, no, gosh,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like a bit of an imposta sometimes the
Speaker 1: music stuff. But yeah, we'll just go with it.
Speaker 3: So I think you're being very modest.
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you.
Speaker 2: I suppose we wanted to start off by asking you
Speaker 2: how you actually got involved in music, Like, was it
Speaker 2: a talent that your parents spotted really early?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think well, my dad grew up playing in
Speaker 1: a jazz band with his brothers up on the farm
Speaker 1: on your peninsula, and he always loved music. So as
Speaker 1: long as I can remember, we've always had music in
Speaker 1: our family, more of like a New Orleans sort of
Speaker 1: jazz style, and we used to go and watch Dad
Speaker 1: play it, like the Days on the Greens and stuff
Speaker 1: with his jazz band Gumbo ya Ya. You should check
Speaker 1: him out. And I remember seeing them on Hey Hey
Speaker 1: at Saturday for the first time when we were kids,
Speaker 1: and it was so cool seeing Dad on TV. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember that show. Yeah, so we
Speaker 1: used to always watch Dad and growing up, and we
Speaker 1: were it was a massive privilege when we turned seven
Speaker 1: that we were allowed to learn a musical instrument. Although
Speaker 1: I think Georgia started violin when she was four, so
Speaker 1: h yeah, and I wanted to play the cell. I
Speaker 1: saw the girl on the ABC I'd playing the cell
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I want to learn that. So we
Speaker 1: were really that was something that was a massive privilege
Speaker 1: for us, and we learned all through school and used
Speaker 1: to do performances for our grandparents. And Mom used to
Speaker 1: enter us in like a Stedfords and then make us
Speaker 1: buskin harmed or for lolli money like not maker. She
Speaker 1: used to dress us up in old fashioned clothes and
Speaker 1: we used to just say yes to whatever our parents
Speaker 1: asked us to do. But we obviously enjoyed it. And
Speaker 1: I think we made like ten bucks or something like
Speaker 1: in a couple of hours and bought like lollies. But
Speaker 1: back then you could buy everything like twenty cents apples
Speaker 1: and things like that. So I think our brother ended
Speaker 1: up handing out lavender bunches and got the equal cut.
Speaker 1: Thought that was pretty unfair, but yeah. So, yeah, we've
Speaker 1: been playing music our whole life and then did it
Speaker 1: all through school and then my youngest sister, Georgia, she
Speaker 1: always had the biggest passion for it, and everyone was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you guys will play music, you should write do a
Speaker 1: band together, and yeah ended up. Yeah, yeah, ten years later,
Speaker 1: we're still doing it. But it's been really fun. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I traveled a lot and seen lots of things, had
Speaker 1: some ups and downs. Is no doubt we'd probably talk
Speaker 1: about today.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was good and as well as obviously
Speaker 2: being in the Jermain it's Jermaine.
Speaker 1: Now, it's just Jermaine now. We were Jamaine's sisters, but
Speaker 1: we were like, people know we're sisters and they can
Speaker 1: find out we're sisters regardless. But yeah, people still asked
Speaker 1: us if we were sisters when we were called Jermaine's sisters,
Speaker 1: and we're like, we would pretty but we're probably not
Speaker 1: like you guys were you look really alike? That's all right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you.
Speaker 2: Also are on Totally Wild. We were on Totally Wild.
Speaker 2: How did you manage both music and obviously journalism.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was always a massive dream of mine
Speaker 1: to be on Totally Wild. That was like the dream
Speaker 1: job when I was a kid growing up, because I
Speaker 1: absolutely door animal was probably an unhealthy obsession with animals,
Speaker 1: but yeah, growing up on a farm, we had lots
Speaker 1: of pets growing up, but I absolutely loved media and
Speaker 1: TV and film and all that sort of thing, So
Speaker 1: combining the two was really the dream job. And I
Speaker 1: applied when I was in year twelve, and I didn't
Speaker 1: realize it was a full time job. I thought it
Speaker 1: was just like, oh, you just do it on the weekends,
Speaker 1: and I got shortlisted and then ended up realizing it
Speaker 1: was I was still at school so I couldn't do that,
Speaker 1: not that I was selected anyway, And then I think
Speaker 1: I auditioned two or three more times because I just
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm going to do it one day,
Speaker 1: and I did a film and TV course and did
Speaker 1: lots and lots of free presenting work in work experience
Speaker 1: all through UNI and then ended up getting the job
Speaker 1: out of I think it was about six hundred girls.
Speaker 1: The producer said so. And then the next week I
Speaker 1: was moved up to Brisbane and started up there. So
Speaker 1: that was a massive Yeah, that was a big part
Speaker 1: of my life that I was super proud of, but
Speaker 1: also came to a bit of a crossroads because we'd
Speaker 1: just been booked a tour of China and also Germany,
Speaker 1: so I obviously couldn't do both. But they were really
Speaker 1: good with me and let me go away for those trips.
Speaker 1: But in the end I sort of had to make
Speaker 1: that choice. But I had an amazing time with the
Speaker 1: crew at Channel ten and they were really lucky. I
Speaker 1: was really lucky sorry, to be able to come back
Speaker 1: as a freelancer back in Adelaide between tours and met
Speaker 1: lots of friends there as well, So it was really
Speaker 1: really good experience. And yeah, it was tough though, definitely
Speaker 1: on the band that time, because yeah, it was two
Speaker 1: amazing opportunities and I sort of had to choose which
Speaker 1: one to do. But yeah, I was lucky enough to
Speaker 1: keep going with the presenting and yeah and still doing music.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and talking about your bandmates, I can understand
Speaker 2: being you know, even just working on this podcast with
Speaker 2: Sophie and Kate, we have the odd argument, Yeah, what
Speaker 2: is it actually like writing a song.
Speaker 1: With your Well, Georgia has always been she's extremely talented,
Speaker 1: has always been the songwriter in the group, and she
Speaker 1: is really really skilled at that sort of thing, and
Speaker 1: we all sort of bring our own sort of vibe
Speaker 1: to it. But in the last couple of years we've
Speaker 1: probably had a bit more input with it, especially recently.
Speaker 1: That was sort of the aim for this year to
Speaker 1: do a lot more songwriting together. So I think, I
Speaker 1: think it's such a personal thing, and you've been really
Speaker 1: vulnerable when you're writing songs because it can be anything
Speaker 1: from a relationship or something you've experienced or seen firsthand,
Speaker 1: and bringing that to your sisters, Like, we're all very
Speaker 1: we all get along super well, but we also have
Speaker 1: our own private like things going on as well, So
Speaker 1: opening up to each other sometimes can be a bit scared.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys are the same, would
Speaker 1: you say or maybe.
Speaker 2: Think, Yeah, sometimes there's parts of your life that you
Speaker 2: do want to keep separate and private, perhaps with relationships.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you luck you guys are so different though, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so we've all I think we've all got
Speaker 1: different and so it's quite a vulnerable thing. So it's
Speaker 1: sort of scary coming to the grief and being like, oh,
Speaker 1: I wrote this song and then we're like, oh, is
Speaker 1: that about someone?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: But yeah, recently we've just sort of had to nip
Speaker 1: that in the button. Yeah, just you know, and it's
Speaker 1: and as you get older, I think you become less
Speaker 1: scared about that stuff, and the more you keep doing things,
Speaker 1: it's not as scary, like it's always scary the first time.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we have had a few arguments, but we
Speaker 1: like you guys would be the same. Like I think
Speaker 1: there's no better team than working with your family sometimes
Speaker 1: because you do go off the charts, like probably yelling
Speaker 1: or whatever, but then you'll like, now a lady, you'll
Speaker 1: probably say sorry, or you'll just move on and be like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's for dinner? Like you know what I mean. So,
Speaker 1: especially when we've been touring on the road for up
Speaker 1: to a couple of weeks and even months, like sharing
Speaker 1: beds and not having any privacy, you just sort of
Speaker 1: you just get so used to it and there's no
Speaker 1: other way than to just get on. So, yeah, how.
Speaker 3: Did the dynamics work there?
Speaker 2: Because I know with three it's kind of hard because
Speaker 2: two tend to gang up.
Speaker 3: Do you guys have that issroom?
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I don't know. Like I always feel like
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, middle child syndrome because I'm the middle
Speaker 1: out of the three of us, but we're only like
Speaker 1: fourteen months apart anyway. But uh, sometimes I think it
Speaker 1: depends like I don't like to be too early to things,
Speaker 1: whereas the girls like to be nice and early and prepared,
Speaker 1: which is actually probably the best way to be. But
Speaker 1: I get too nervous, Like for instance, where we were
Speaker 1: doing the Little Mix tour, we had fifteen shows with them,
Speaker 1: and we were always the girls. We made sure we
Speaker 1: were at stage at least twenty five minutes thirty minutes beforehand,
Speaker 1: just to prep and be aware of the space, which
Speaker 1: is really good. But for me, I get so nervous
Speaker 1: just standing still. I need to be busy, so I'm
Speaker 1: like backstage just pacing around and doing exercises and stretches
Speaker 1: and just thinking about something else because I just don't
Speaker 1: like being too early. So I think they get annoyed
Speaker 1: with me with that. But yeah, I think we all
Speaker 1: have our strengths and weaknesses, but yeah, not too much
Speaker 1: ganging up, which is good. And we have our Tom manager, Bethany,
Speaker 1: who's from Canada as well, and she sort of even
Speaker 1: that out as well. So there's four of us girls
Speaker 1: in the road, so it's good now.
Speaker 2: And as you touched on before, you guys have recently
Speaker 2: come off touring with Little Mix and you're also toured
Speaker 2: with Roan and Keating. Yeah, how did those opportunities come about?
Speaker 1: Yeah? We were super lucky, like but also like through
Speaker 1: a lot of hard work, and I think we've always said, like,
Speaker 1: if you put yourself in an opportunity, things can happen.
Speaker 1: So we Yeah, like we started by traveling overseas. We
Speaker 1: record our first alb in Ireland with the guy that
Speaker 1: produced The Cause because they have three sisters and someone's like,
Speaker 1: you should do that, and that was ended up being amazing.
Speaker 1: We made so many friendships through that and then ends
Speaker 1: up going to Germany and then Mom used to always
Speaker 1: Mum was our manager and she still does a lot
Speaker 1: of management duties for us now. She's very Chris Jenner,
Speaker 1: but maybe not as glamorous, but she's still lovely and
Speaker 1: sweet and makes lots of muffins for all the radio
Speaker 1: stations and we go through She's she's amazing though, and
Speaker 1: she's she's been one of probably the best influencers in
Speaker 1: our lives with just keeping so supportive and she's always
Speaker 1: been there for us like some parents are like, go
Speaker 1: off to UNI and get a proper job. But she's like, no,
Speaker 1: like being a musician. I'm like, Mom, it's so hard.
Speaker 1: She's like it's okay, and she she's always been so
Speaker 1: proud and supportive of us so and she used to say, like,
Speaker 1: the worst someone can say is no, so why she
Speaker 1: used to just email everyone She's like, Hey, you've got
Speaker 1: this amazing girl band from Australia. How would you like
Speaker 1: them on your festival? And this fellow one day was like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, sorry, this fella, this guy that's amazing. He's
Speaker 1: been an amazing support for us. Runs a big festival
Speaker 1: called the Islawight in the UK, and he he was like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: why not. And then through that he put us in
Speaker 1: contact over the next couple of years with their little
Speaker 1: mix and Ronan keating and yeah, through that, it's just
Speaker 1: sort of built from there. So we're just really really lucky.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you sort of have to just put yourself
Speaker 1: in those situations to get noticed, and like, you never
Speaker 1: know who's in the audience. We Mum used to always
Speaker 1: say that, even when we were playing to like three people,
Speaker 1: like a old cub or something like that, you never
Speaker 1: know who's there. But it's really true, like a lot
Speaker 1: of the things and a lot of our successes has
Speaker 1: come from just you know, keep going and keep going.
Speaker 1: It's always going to be hard, but you're never losing
Speaker 1: if you're still in the race. Like as soon as
Speaker 1: you quit, that's when it stops. But yeah, so I
Speaker 1: think our tour managers always say you never lose if
Speaker 1: you don't.
Speaker 3: Quit, but that's so true.
Speaker 2: Or you know there's one yes, yeah, yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3: So what was Little Mix?
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, work with it was amazing. It was so surreal,
Speaker 1: like we've never done a tour of that level before.
Speaker 1: Roadin Keating was amazing. But we did that in Germany
Speaker 1: and we did Boys as well in Australia New Zealand
Speaker 1: and they were such lovely guys and Little Mix were
Speaker 1: lovely as well. But yeah, it was It was huge
Speaker 1: because we were playing from anywhere between fifteen thousand to
Speaker 1: thirty two thousand a night and just the go go
Speaker 1: go over all was crazy. But yeah, they were really
Speaker 1: lovely and like, yeah, they obviously it's a lot different
Speaker 1: to what people think, like everyone was like, oh, you're
Speaker 1: hanging out and this and that, but because they're the
Speaker 1: main act. They've got a lot to worry about, so
Speaker 1: they've got to you know, get all their they call
Speaker 1: it glam when they get all their hair and makeup
Speaker 1: done and also do all their voice warm ups and
Speaker 1: things like that, and they have to prepare for their
Speaker 1: show as well. So we definitely saw them around and
Speaker 1: probably more towards the end of the tour when things
Speaker 1: got a bit more relaxed. But they all had their dogs,
Speaker 1: which we thought was so cool because in Australia you
Speaker 1: can't really have dogs inside, but they all had all
Speaker 1: their cute pooches running around and Perry has this little
Speaker 1: dog called Hatchie that used to rot around your legs,
Speaker 1: so that was cool. And then there was another band
Speaker 1: called Ratsu who were awesome. They were like kind of
Speaker 1: like a boy hip hop kind of band, so we
Speaker 1: hung out with them ben they were awesome. So it
Speaker 1: was just cool, like meeting all these people and even
Speaker 1: not even the bandmates, but the crew as well, like
Speaker 1: the people that do the sound and the lighting and
Speaker 1: the production, and even the caterers, Like we'd have the
Speaker 1: same caterers each day. We're like, oh, that's for dessert.
Speaker 1: That was probably our highlight of the tour actually is
Speaker 1: like we had never tried butoffee pie before, so each
Speaker 1: day we would just always so excited to get off
Speaker 1: stage and go eat dessert, which is really sad but
Speaker 1: it was also cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like you've also got to share your
Speaker 2: little mixed story about the break up.
Speaker 1: No, no, yeah, for sure, Like I always say, like,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, like whenever people were embarrassed about things, I'm like,
Speaker 1: there's always probably gonna be one story that is your
Speaker 1: most embarrassing, So anything that happens after that it's not
Speaker 1: as bad. And this was my embarrassing story that I
Speaker 1: would never live down. But nothing ever I get boried
Speaker 1: as much about stuff because oh there was two things
Speaker 1: that happened on that tour. But one was yeah we
Speaker 1: were at there we Jade who is there? Oh she's
Speaker 1: one of those singers as all of them are, but
Speaker 1: she has a nightclub in South Shields and she invited
Speaker 1: us too. It was like one of the last shows
Speaker 1: of the tour to the after party and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys are welcome to come. We got a bottle
Speaker 1: of prosecco at the table and yeah, but like over
Speaker 1: in the UK, they got at like midnight, so we
Speaker 1: were all like so tired, We've been up all day
Speaker 1: and we our show was only at like seven, so
Speaker 1: but we were like, now we should go. I'll be
Speaker 1: good networking and it'll be fun and you know why not.
Speaker 1: So we got there and yeah, like I was, we
Speaker 1: were sort of just like chilling around and waiting, and
Speaker 1: I'd had a couple of glasses of per sec. I
Speaker 1: definitely wasn't drunk or anything, but I was just sort
Speaker 1: of like just a bit more relaxed than usual probably,
Speaker 1: and this club was really cool. But I had one
Speaker 1: of those hidden steps. I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: have been, you know when you just trip on something small. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: I saw the little mixed girls and I'm like goth
Speaker 1: and say hey and say thanks for having us on
Speaker 1: the tour and had a chat and then I turn
Speaker 1: around and I'm holding my glass and I just this
Speaker 1: little step comes and I just completely face cramped. Like
Speaker 1: it was like the worst stack you could ever see,
Speaker 1: and like I just remember it. No one was around,
Speaker 1: so that's even worse. So you can't, like, you know,
Speaker 1: when you just want to like laugh with someone and
Speaker 1: be like how funny. But no one was around. They
Speaker 1: sort of and they would already like we're about ten
Speaker 1: meters away, so they were a little bit too far
Speaker 1: to help me up. And then I think some of
Speaker 1: the backup dancers came up and they're like, oh, you're okay.
Speaker 1: And then there's the security guard who was he was
Speaker 1: like crying with luck. I was so scared of him
Speaker 1: the whole tour, but he was actually like a big
Speaker 1: teddy bear. But he came up and he was like
Speaker 1: bawling with laughing. He's like, there's a step there, and
Speaker 1: I was like I know, and he's like, but you
Speaker 1: didn't spill your prosecco, so that's good because it was
Speaker 1: literally one of those yeah, horrible stacks. And then I
Speaker 1: just quickly ran back to the booth where we were
Speaker 1: and I'm like no, But also because I think I'd
Speaker 1: had a couple of drinks. Yeah, celebrationary drinks. We don't
Speaker 1: on it every night. Just to put a little disclosure
Speaker 1: in there, but yeah, I think I wasn't as worried,
Speaker 1: and then we hit the dance floor off and had
Speaker 1: a really good night and then we had to laugh
Speaker 1: about it. The next day we had to have our
Speaker 1: press photo with the girls and they're like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: saw you for we hope you were okay. I was like, yes,
Speaker 1: just my ego.
Speaker 2: You'd almost like them to pretend that they didn't see Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, well, I feel like they'd think
Speaker 2: more highly of you the fact that you just got
Speaker 2: up and cause didn't you.
Speaker 3: Say that then you hit the dance floor.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was just like, what do you know what
Speaker 1: the amount of things that have happened to me on stage,
Speaker 1: like when I have kicked because I like to move
Speaker 1: around if anyone's seen us play before or if you
Speaker 1: ever do see us, I like to have a bit
Speaker 1: of a boogie prop a little bit too much. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm very commonly kick the cord out of my bass.
Speaker 1: So then the sound stops and like the sound's not working.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the sound and guy like what's happening?
Speaker 1: And we're getting meanwhile filmed on these huge TV screens
Speaker 1: like out towards the crowd, and then I think someone
Speaker 1: was in the front row and they like, literally did
Speaker 1: that plug it in? Like it's fallen out, and I
Speaker 1: was like oops, And so I'm just like dancing back
Speaker 1: to the cord and plugging it back in. But yeah,
Speaker 1: and so that was, Yeah, that was another embarrassing moment.
Speaker 1: At least you've owned them, yeah, completely, well, especially on
Speaker 1: Totally Wild, that was actually probably one of the best
Speaker 1: preparing things for what it was next to come in,
Speaker 1: like my life with the career and stuff, because you're
Speaker 1: made to do the most silly things and act like
Speaker 1: a complete full on TV. But the sillier and corner
Speaker 1: is I remember one of the guys, Seamus, he was
Speaker 1: one of the other presenters. He's like, the more corneer
Speaker 1: you are, the funnier is for kids and stuff. So
Speaker 1: that was always good advice and ever since, like then,
Speaker 1: I think you just kind of like, oh, just own
Speaker 1: it and go with it because whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, not that we're talking about particularly glamorous moments
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I suppose a lot of people would.
Speaker 2: Look at your Instagram and to see all the amazing
Speaker 2: things you've been doing. Could you talk us through a
Speaker 2: little bit, I suppose about what the reality of being
Speaker 2: on a tour in the UK actually is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, Yeah, it's it definitely is an amazing adventure.
Speaker 1: But it's not always like I do a lot of
Speaker 1: Jermaine's Instagram and obviously my own as well, And I
Speaker 1: absolutely love photography, but so I try and take beautiful
Speaker 1: photos wherever we are because I'm not I never know
Speaker 1: when I'll be back there again, so it's more as
Speaker 1: a bit of a memory as well, not trying to
Speaker 1: be showing off like, oh, this is where we are today,
Speaker 1: but I don't know.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well Instagram's always the highlight, really.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, oh but definitely yeah, sorry, Like behind the
Speaker 1: scenes for sure, it's definitely like hard. Like we're usually
Speaker 1: in a like a van for most of them, and
Speaker 1: we're all crabbed in the back. Sometimes if it's a
Speaker 1: small car and we've only got a small too, we'll
Speaker 1: have like drum kits on our laps and things like that.
Speaker 3: So do you fly that all over?
Speaker 1: We usually hire them, but we have all our gear
Speaker 1: and suitcases as well, so usually it's really annoying. I
Speaker 1: don't know how you girls would go doing it if
Speaker 1: you like traveling with lots of because I love traveling
Speaker 1: lots of outfits and things to wear, but the girls
Speaker 1: are very streets. That's another thing. The sisters do it
Speaker 1: like I usually go over with the luggage, but they've
Speaker 1: probably been proud of me. In the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: I've bit better. But yeah, just yeah, like the instruments
Speaker 1: get priority over wait in luggage, so you just have
Speaker 1: to be very smart traveler else you've got more to carry.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's definitely it's not as glamorous as
Speaker 1: what people definitely think. And you know, especially in Germany,
Speaker 1: there's nothing you were asking if there was a few
Speaker 1: funny stories, but yeah, a lot of the venue, especially
Speaker 1: when we first started touring Germany, they usually have accommodation included,
Speaker 1: and some have been really nice hotels and things, and
Speaker 1: other times it might be someone's house, which we learned
Speaker 1: with a few of them. And I remember we one
Speaker 1: place we stayed at and I think we finished the
Speaker 1: gig at like eleven o'clock or something, and then they
Speaker 1: were like, oh, this is the accommodation. It was the
Speaker 1: attic of their house. And these people collected like these
Speaker 1: old fashioned dolls in the chasse creep like Chucky movie.
Speaker 1: And I remember they had just three mattresses on the
Speaker 1: floor and then they had like these fox skins hanging
Speaker 1: and I remember I was sleeping on the edge and
Speaker 1: there was this big animal skin next to me, and
Speaker 1: I remember like just as we were like going like
Speaker 1: lying down, I'm like, can I sleep in between you guys?
Speaker 1: And Clara and George like, oh gosh, ella light, They're
Speaker 1: like fine, And then the couple started playing piano at
Speaker 1: like two in the morning because they're like, oh, do
Speaker 1: you guys want to come jam? Like just as we'd
Speaker 1: gone to bed, it was like this sort of creeping
Speaker 1: piano playing and we're like we're okay, Like so, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's been some funny places and other times like the
Speaker 1: booked a hotel that's like only got one bed, so
Speaker 1: Clara and I've had to sleep on the floor. And
Speaker 1: not that Georgia gets prior toy, but like I think
Speaker 1: Mom was with us, so we're like, oh, Mum, and
Speaker 1: Georgia can because she we sort of need Georgia to
Speaker 1: be fitting well because she's sort of the leader of
Speaker 1: the group. So Clara and I were like but we were
Speaker 1: like fun, it's kind of like you you feel like
Speaker 1: you're back a kid again, Like you feel like you're
Speaker 1: ten years old having a sleepover. So we feel like
Speaker 1: it's always a lot of fun, but definitely not just
Speaker 1: glamorous as well it always seems.
Speaker 2: And you you guys have a huge fan base of
Speaker 2: young girls all over the world. What is it like
Speaker 2: to have such influence over them, and is it like
Speaker 2: something that's really special to you as well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's it sort of came a lot of it
Speaker 1: came from Little Mix, but we've had some people before
Speaker 1: that as well, and they're so it's so beautiful seeing
Speaker 1: all these girls come together, and a lot of them,
Speaker 1: like we didn't realize, weren't actually friends prior. So they
Speaker 1: all sort of shared this common love of our band
Speaker 1: and then made these little groups. So I call them
Speaker 1: the Chippies because we were saying how much we love
Speaker 1: hot Chips, and then every time we see this hot
Speaker 1: chip guy, we all send each other a photo because
Speaker 1: it's like this hot chip man that stands I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've seen. He looks like he's almost smoking.
Speaker 3: I think I know who you mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we call him mister Chippy. Whenever we see him
Speaker 1: wherever over the well, like whether it's in Germany or
Speaker 1: the UK or Australia, we're like, oh, we found mister Chippy.
Speaker 1: Like it's a weird thing that we all do. But
Speaker 1: also they they're so sweet and lovely. And we've also
Speaker 1: got some guys as well, these two twin guys. Actually
Speaker 1: they're amazing. They go to every single Little Mix show
Speaker 1: and they came to all of our shows as well,
Speaker 1: and they give us like little presents and just they're
Speaker 1: all so sweet. When we were in this ed Sheeran
Speaker 1: competition to open for him, we got into the grand
Speaker 1: final and one of the girls came to the show
Speaker 1: and she brought us this book all filled with beautiful
Speaker 1: notes and photos from like all the chippies and all
Speaker 1: the group. Well, so it was so amazing because sometimes
Speaker 1: I guess like especially with social media or if you're
Speaker 1: not playing shows, you don't really feel like you have
Speaker 1: that connection with fans. And we more see them as
Speaker 1: friends as well, because we all give them hugs and
Speaker 1: stuff and we see them and it's always just so
Speaker 1: we were so glad when we see them at shows,
Speaker 1: because like it can be very unfamiliar over in the
Speaker 1: UK and a country that we've never been to before,
Speaker 1: so all like we have been but don't have many
Speaker 1: friends and things like that. So when we see these
Speaker 1: guys come to our shows and out to like even
Speaker 1: our Christmas shows, it's so special for us, and yeah,
Speaker 1: just seeing them grow and support each other, and they've
Speaker 1: even started some of their own social channels helping each
Speaker 1: other out, and like they're all going through teenage issues
Speaker 1: which we've been through and still probably go through similar
Speaker 1: kind of things. So I love like helping out with
Speaker 1: advice and then they give each other advice and have
Speaker 1: this great support system. So that's probably been one of
Speaker 1: the most coolest and most probably special things about the group.
Speaker 1: Like whether we go massive or not or just keep
Speaker 1: doing what we're doing, I think like, yeah, if anything,
Speaker 1: we're just so happy and so proud of these girls
Speaker 1: and yeah, glad that we can be an influence on
Speaker 1: them as well. And they're like yeah, and it's they're
Speaker 1: inspiring to us and make us keep going and we're
Speaker 1: having those tough days as well.
Speaker 3: So is it Did I see it correctly?
Speaker 2: Did one of them get a tattoo of domain on them?
Speaker 2: That I think I saw it one of your instant stories.
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, that's yeah, Yeah, that's so cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I think I know there was one girl that
Speaker 1: was gonna get one done and I think she did.
Speaker 1: Yeah she did, Oh Charlie, Yeah, yeah from Germany. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's amazing. Yeah she got that done. Yeah that was Yeah.
Speaker 1: I hope it was all right. I think we've sat
Speaker 1: on that logo now so I think they're good. I
Speaker 1: know we've gone through a few different texts.
Speaker 3: On it, sisters.
Speaker 2: At the end of it now, I felt the pressure
Speaker 2: to keep it that. That's obviously an amazing supporter there.
Speaker 2: But do you have any fans that have gone a
Speaker 2: little bit too far? He stood itstalk affairs.
Speaker 1: No, nothing that's made us uncomfortable. There's like, there's one
Speaker 1: fella in Germany who's called sweat Span and his family,
Speaker 1: so they were really die hard from the first moment
Speaker 1: they saw us when we were like you now, Like
Speaker 1: I think we were nineteen or twenty when we first
Speaker 1: went to Germany and they came to the show, like
Speaker 1: not knowing us at all, and this guy decided he's
Speaker 1: going to be out. Then he's been so amazing, Like
Speaker 1: over the years, he gets a photo with us at
Speaker 1: each gig, and then he'll get a T shirt printed
Speaker 1: with each gig that he's been to, and every time
Speaker 1: he comes to another gig, he'll add another date to
Speaker 1: this T shirt or make more T shirts and recently
Speaker 1: we're in Germany. He all gave us a T shirt
Speaker 1: of each other because he's like, I always wear a
Speaker 1: T shirt of you, So here's sorry, this is a
Speaker 1: really bad accent, but here's.
Speaker 3: A T shirt.
Speaker 1: He's a T shirt of like you guys that you
Speaker 1: can wear. And he knows that we're vegetarian vegan, especially
Speaker 1: George's although to a lot, so he makes us these big,
Speaker 1: beautiful cakes and muffins.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll probably be listening to this as well.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, he's so lovely and they always help us
Speaker 1: pack up and stuff. So it's cool having these people
Speaker 1: all over the world that we've met prem MWS and yeah,
Speaker 1: like we've just been so lucky and a lot of
Speaker 1: people have been so generous as well, because it's definitely
Speaker 1: an industry where it's got ups and downs financially and
Speaker 1: just like the mental strain of it and sometimes not
Speaker 1: always staying at hotels can be hard. So we've got
Speaker 1: a lot of places that sorry, some lovely people that
Speaker 1: have helped us out with accommodation or let us stay
Speaker 1: in their homes and things like that to give us
Speaker 1: more of that home family vibe. So there's a beautiful
Speaker 1: couple in the UK that put us up for a
Speaker 1: bit as well, and then a guy in Germany and
Speaker 1: all over the place. So if anyone's listening, thank you
Speaker 1: for that. So yeah, it's been great that home noiy
Speaker 1: from home kind of thing.
Speaker 2: We're talking about the fans. We do have some questions, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the fans that they've sent in, So I think we'll
Speaker 2: probably get to them because obviously they want these answered. Sure,
Speaker 2: So one lovely fan wrote, what's your advice to keeping
Speaker 2: anxiety onto control?
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I'm a huge suffer of anxiety. I
Speaker 1: think I've been since a young child. Like I used
Speaker 1: to hate performing and would always cry before going on
Speaker 1: stage when I was a kid, which is quite strange
Speaker 1: that I'm doing this now. I ever would have thought that.
Speaker 1: But when TV, Yeah, I know it's so weird. I
Speaker 1: think I always wanted to but I was just so
Speaker 1: shy and stage fright. There's a video of me crying
Speaker 1: in a cloud costume with a cloud makeup on, like
Speaker 1: I was like happy the cloud, like writing off stage
Speaker 1: at ten years old. But yeah, I think like over
Speaker 1: the years it's and it's something that everyone goes through.
Speaker 1: But it's just about handling it, and I've just learned
Speaker 1: it's about how you sort of control the situation yourself.
Speaker 1: Like sometimes things are so out of your control you
Speaker 1: can't do anything about it. But the best thing you
Speaker 1: can do is sort of just think about things that
Speaker 1: you can control and think about the emotions that you
Speaker 1: can control. But yeah, like for me on tour, I
Speaker 1: get extremely lonely. Like a lot of people, see, you're
Speaker 1: so busy and you're always around people, but sometimes you
Speaker 1: get home and you have no one to call, and
Speaker 1: if you're not in a relationship, you don't have that
Speaker 1: special person to you know, just have a chat to
Speaker 1: which I absolutely love people how my day ors and things.
Speaker 1: But if you don't have that, you can become extremely lonely.
Speaker 1: But I think it's just sort of making you enough
Speaker 1: and thinking of things that make you happy. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, and just doing things that distract you. Like
Speaker 1: for me, i'd go for a walk or like, because
Speaker 1: I love photography, I'd go out and find something different.
Speaker 1: To you just really immerse yourself in the different areas
Speaker 1: that you're out. But yeah, I think, Yeah, anxiety is
Speaker 1: a hard one because it's a different case. It's different
Speaker 1: for everybody. But I think just taking big breaths and
Speaker 1: just thinking what you can control, think of the good
Speaker 1: things in your life, how happy and how lucky you are,
Speaker 1: just to be alive and just to be able to
Speaker 1: do what you do. And then also helping other people,
Speaker 1: maybe talking to someone else that has anxiety, because I
Speaker 1: think when you realize the more people that have it,
Speaker 1: you can share your stories. You realize you're not alone
Speaker 1: and everyone's got their problems. Like I remember reading something,
Speaker 1: if everyone through their problems in a pile and saw
Speaker 1: everyone else, they'd probably take theirs back because yeah, they
Speaker 1: you know, each to their own. So yeah, that's probably
Speaker 1: my best advice.
Speaker 2: And it's a hard one, isn't it though, because I
Speaker 2: feel like so many people have anxiety or go through
Speaker 2: anxious thoughts. Because even I'm always one of those people
Speaker 2: who second guess everything I say, and when you've got
Speaker 2: your sisters around.
Speaker 3: You can be like, we was that all right that
Speaker 3: I said that?
Speaker 2: So I feel like everyone, knowing that so many people
Speaker 2: go through it has to be some.
Speaker 3: Kind of thought base. I suppose to tell.
Speaker 2: A lot of people want to know when you're going
Speaker 2: to be back touring in Scotland, and also when you're
Speaker 2: coming to Switzerland.
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. Yeah, as soon as we can. I
Speaker 1: think we definitely have a little headline show again at
Speaker 1: the end of the year in Scotland. We had a
Speaker 1: good year last year, so we'll be back there again,
Speaker 1: which is going to give it a bit of time
Speaker 1: as well for some new music and things, and same
Speaker 1: with Switzerland. I think we'll be back doing the Coolest
Speaker 1: Shoulder again, so I look forward to seeing everyone there.
Speaker 2: This is a bit of a controversial question. Who's your
Speaker 2: favorite sister? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's so hard because I love
Speaker 1: both of them equally but in different ways. Clara is amazing.
Speaker 1: She's the oldest, not very much, but she's sort of
Speaker 1: the mediator and the calm one. I'll have to ask
Speaker 1: you guys this question too, because I want to know
Speaker 1: what the dynamics are and you guys. But yeah, Clara's
Speaker 1: sort of the mediator and the calm one of the group,
Speaker 1: and she's sort of if George and I have creative differences,
Speaker 1: she usually thoughts of like, Okay, so you're thinking this
Speaker 1: and you're thinking that, so why don't we do this?
Speaker 1: So she's really good. But then Georgia is just so
Speaker 1: ridiculously talented. I've never sort of met anyone. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's biased because she's my sister, but
Speaker 1: just the way she can play music without like reading
Speaker 1: music and just pick things up and just play things.
Speaker 1: You just ask her to play a song, she can
Speaker 1: do that, and the songs she writes so clever and beautiful,
Speaker 1: so which is one of the reasons why I think
Speaker 1: I've stayed doing music, because it's so amazing working with
Speaker 1: her and just being part of it all, and it's
Speaker 1: quite special doing that. As sisters, She's gonna let things
Speaker 1: are hilarious because I would never say this to her face.
Speaker 1: Oh like I would. I would, but she'd also be like,
Speaker 1: he I've got this on tape now when we're having fights.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so she's Yeah, she's great, and she's she
Speaker 1: works really really hard. So yeah, I love I think
Speaker 1: I love both of them. And I've got another sister,
Speaker 1: Beth as well, who was older, who hates I love Beth.
Speaker 2: If you're live, I didn't know you had another.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was blowing my mud.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got us. There's six of us in the family.
Speaker 1: So got Beth and Sam and then but she's got
Speaker 1: two beautiful children, and yeah, I lived out on a
Speaker 1: farm in South Australia with her lovely husband, so yeah,
Speaker 1: but she's amazing as well, and Sam too, and then Charlie.
Speaker 1: So it's a big group of us.
Speaker 3: So you love them all I love yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well actually, who do you love more than your
Speaker 2: sisters or Pasimo?
Speaker 3: Your oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: So we've had a few, yeah, a few people asking
Speaker 2: this isn't just for me personally, because I also want
Speaker 2: to know about pismo. But Ella has an amazing would
Speaker 2: you call it a pet or a rescue possem?
Speaker 1: So it's a rescue cost them from Fauna Rescue. So
Speaker 1: when we had the Loverthaw bush fires, I think it
Speaker 1: was she was blown out of her mother's pouch and
Speaker 1: they couldn't find the mother and she was still too
Speaker 1: young to be released, so I think she was she
Speaker 1: needed like her four feeds a day. And when I
Speaker 1: was actually doing totally wild, I did a story with
Speaker 1: Bev Langley from Minton Farm who has a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of possums, and she gave me a couple of rescues
Speaker 1: and I read them and then really send back into
Speaker 1: the wild because where I live up in the hills,
Speaker 1: where my parents live, it's a great possum releasing place.
Speaker 1: So she called me up when they recently had one
Speaker 1: boardy and it was only one. So yeah, I've been
Speaker 1: looking after her the last few months and she's so cute,
Speaker 1: she's I've probably spoilt her a little bit, but I just, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm starting to get her back into it's cooled in
Speaker 1: I think it's called in Richmond, where they sort of
Speaker 1: learn different skills they would in the wild. So I
Speaker 1: put trees around like the curtains. This is I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm going down a few cool points, but it's cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, she's she's awesome. Yeah, I just I was
Speaker 1: just fed her some milk before I left. So yeah,
Speaker 1: she's really sweet and cute. But yeah, she will have
Speaker 1: to go back out because it's only fair for her
Speaker 1: to be back in the wild. But yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to get her prepped at the moment. So we're
Speaker 1: in pre season for the while, and I'll be going
Speaker 1: back overseas on two soon too, so she will need
Speaker 1: to But I think mums. I've been training mum how
Speaker 1: to look after it too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she needs another mother she can always.
Speaker 1: Yes, no, she's really cute. We also have five rescue
Speaker 1: Joey's as well from Fauna Rescue. They're a bit bigger
Speaker 1: now too though, so my sister Georgia looks after them.
Speaker 1: So yeah, got a got a good connection with Fauna Rescue.
Speaker 1: And we've just done our bush fire benefit, which you
Speaker 1: guys are out, which was so cool to see and
Speaker 1: be out to announce how much we raised soon but
Speaker 1: a lot of that money will be going to Foreigner
Speaker 1: Rescue on the CFS.
Speaker 2: So yeah, And it was a little bit awkward when
Speaker 2: we did see some of the A f l.
Speaker 1: W after that podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I know I felt like.
Speaker 1: Did you come with a conclusion with what you guys
Speaker 1: both prefer? No.
Speaker 2: Our conclusion was I love the A f l W.
Speaker 2: I just I just don't think it should be called
Speaker 2: a f l M. That was my only But you
Speaker 2: know what if.
Speaker 1: Because I couldn't tell you guys have a voice, I
Speaker 1: wasn't sure which one of you was the foreign against.
Speaker 2: Kate was Kate was four, and so I seem to
Speaker 2: be against So when we listened to it against just
Speaker 2: against a changing the name. Yeah, yeah, they were so cool.
Speaker 2: I wanted Aaron Phillips's shoes.
Speaker 1: She's the best. They're the most awesome chicks we've been.
Speaker 1: They've been so supportive of our band over the last
Speaker 1: couple of years and come to our shows and we'll
Speaker 1: come to the games and yeah, it's so cool seeing
Speaker 1: these girls out there doing yeah, like the female footing.
Speaker 3: And you played female football too.
Speaker 1: I did play a couple of season. I actually flew
Speaker 1: back from Ronan keating our last show with Rodan in
Speaker 1: Germany a few years ago because it was our first
Speaker 1: year in the Sorry that was my fault. It was
Speaker 1: our first year at the Mount Lofty Devils in the
Speaker 1: Adelaide Hills and we got into the grand final and
Speaker 1: I was super jet lag. We ended up losing by
Speaker 1: a point, which sucked, but like it was, I was
Speaker 1: so into it. I remember like having my footy shorts
Speaker 1: with me overseas and I'd wear them to bed and
Speaker 1: I was all prepped. So yeah, I think it's so
Speaker 1: cool and it's so awesome seeing so many girls out there, yeah,
Speaker 1: killing it at sport and music and everything else as
Speaker 1: well a lot of female leaders and you guys as well,
Speaker 1: I think are so inspiring. To Like us girls were
Speaker 1: listening to you overseas when we were on the road
Speaker 1: and we just thought you were so hilarious and it's
Speaker 1: just and like just so cool as well, like in
Speaker 1: all the stories you guys do and the people you
Speaker 1: talk to, I think.
Speaker 3: Is so senior. Fifty dollars in the post.
Speaker 1: It's dead set true though, and I think it's so inspiring,
Speaker 1: so you guys going out and you know, inspiring other
Speaker 1: women to start their own businesses and all that sort
Speaker 1: of thing as well. So yeah, I'm a bit of
Speaker 1: a fan girl. I was very nervous to do this
Speaker 1: one today.
Speaker 3: Ella's our second biggest band other than our mum.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, oh no, I love it in the
Speaker 1: show of the show, Oh no. Just in general, I'm
Speaker 1: saving up for the Steppa machine at the gym because
Speaker 1: it's never fun, but you got your podcast makes it fun,
Speaker 1: so I will listen to that the gym later on.
Speaker 2: Talking before kind of about the gender debate and equality, Yeah,
Speaker 2: do you think that there are some challenges you guys
Speaker 2: face being young females that maybe male performers don't face
Speaker 2: in Europe or.
Speaker 1: Australbe Sometimes I feel like it's almost been working. It's
Speaker 1: been really good for us. I think there's no better
Speaker 1: time at the moment to be a female in yeah,
Speaker 1: in music, but just in anything. I think something we
Speaker 1: always were really adamant about with our music and just
Speaker 1: in general with ourselves was we don't want to be
Speaker 1: just good for a girl. We want to be good,
Speaker 1: which was actually a theme of a song that we're writing.
Speaker 1: But we don't we I think like a lot of
Speaker 1: people like, oh, you girls are good at guitar for girls,
Speaker 1: like kind of thing and George used together and she's
Speaker 1: an amazing guitarist. And I remember an old boyfriend of
Speaker 1: mine was like, you don't want to be walking in
Speaker 1: place and being like, oh, yeah, they're all right because
Speaker 1: they're chicks, like that sounds decent. They want to just say, wow,
Speaker 1: these girls are really really good. And that was something
Speaker 1: that always stuck with me that he said. So I
Speaker 1: think that's been something that we've tried to We think
Speaker 1: it's very important that everyone is equal, and like, you know,
Speaker 1: no matter what it is with nominations with awards or
Speaker 1: festival bills or anything, I think it's always good to
Speaker 1: have the best people. And you know, it's great to
Speaker 1: have a lot of diversity as well, like having girls
Speaker 1: and guys, all girl bands or just boy bands. Like
Speaker 1: I think it's so important to have lots of diversity,
Speaker 1: but also have especially for things just as yourself, just
Speaker 1: to be the best you can, no matter what your
Speaker 1: gender is or your preferences or anything like that, because
Speaker 1: I think that's sometimes we never want to be like
Speaker 1: playing the female card on anything. We want people to
Speaker 1: hear our music and it could be a guy thing
Speaker 1: em though it was clearly very much a girl but
Speaker 1: we just want to be on an equal playing fields.
Speaker 1: But it's been amazing and there's a lot of great
Speaker 1: support systems out there for women. I was at a
Speaker 1: women's breakfast for music recently in Adelaide, and it was
Speaker 1: so cool seeing all the support and the women coming together.
Speaker 1: Can I think you guys have addressed it too. It's
Speaker 1: about bringing girls up then you know, beating them down
Speaker 1: or trying to compete against them, because we're all in
Speaker 1: it together and we're all feeling the same thing. So
Speaker 1: I think it's really important like supporting each other's each
Speaker 1: girls as well, but also not defaming men either, because
Speaker 1: there's a lot of great men out there as well
Speaker 1: that have been supportive of us too, So I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be fair for us to be like, screw the boys,
Speaker 1: because you know, we've had both help, amazing help from
Speaker 1: both girls and boys.
Speaker 3: So it's so.
Speaker 2: Good as well that you guys have that mentality because
Speaker 2: I think that's so good for young women who listen
Speaker 2: to your music and love you.
Speaker 3: Guys to hear.
Speaker 2: And it's crazy because it's funny when you're saying all
Speaker 2: of those points. It made me really think because I
Speaker 2: never think, oh, they're just on the festival because they're
Speaker 2: a girl group. But I suppose one of those politics
Speaker 2: do come into choosing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, we we didn't ever want to just be
Speaker 1: selected because we're a girl band. Like obviously it's great
Speaker 1: to have as many girls on the bill as possible
Speaker 1: because there's not that much representation of in some areas.
Speaker 1: But we also didn't want to just be there because
Speaker 1: we were girls. We wanted to be there because we
Speaker 1: were good enough to be there and worked hard enough
Speaker 1: and deserve to be there as well.
Speaker 4: So yeah, And something that Taylor Swift Queen Amazing Yeah,
Speaker 4: she touched on last year was the fact that as
Speaker 4: she approached thirty, she felt like she was getting asked
Speaker 4: a lot of questions that male artists perhaps wouldn't get.
Speaker 1: For sure, you think.
Speaker 2: That's something that happens with you guys. Obviously you're in
Speaker 2: your twenties at the moment, but you feel that a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I think we get a lot. We get
Speaker 1: asked our age a lot, which is fine, but I've
Speaker 1: never heard a boy band get us their age. A
Speaker 1: lot of people ask about when you guys going to
Speaker 1: stop and start thinking about having children, which I was like, well,
Speaker 1: can't you do both? You know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: it's I was like, I don't know what I'd look
Speaker 1: like with a pregnant pregnant base player, but with my
Speaker 1: I've got a little hoffner now, so I can just
Speaker 1: put that on top of it if that ended up happening.
Speaker 2: But no, like your partner can stay at home and
Speaker 2: look after your baby as well.
Speaker 1: Well, it works, And I've seen so many amazing couples
Speaker 1: on the road do it, like you know, like Ronan
Speaker 1: and his wife and she's she had a little baby
Speaker 1: while he was on tour, and you know, obviously she
Speaker 1: wasn't playing, but you know, you can if you've got
Speaker 1: a supportive partner and like a supportive group around you.
Speaker 1: You can do it. It's obviously going to be hard,
Speaker 1: but I think like there's a lot of stereotypes of
Speaker 1: what and like people like to sort of tell you
Speaker 1: what you can and can't do, and when you're doing
Speaker 1: something a little different, there are those times and people
Speaker 1: like to sort of tell you, oh, no, you can't
Speaker 1: do that, There's no way you can do that. When
Speaker 1: when's this expiry day? Which is something that's always sort
Speaker 1: of gotten under my skin a bit because I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: why can't I do both? And why can't I do media?
Speaker 1: And why can't I do music? And why can't I
Speaker 1: do art? But also have a posim at home and
Speaker 1: also like to you know, travel and do different things
Speaker 1: as well. So I think it's just it's good this
Speaker 1: day and age we live in. And I'm very very
Speaker 1: fortunate and lucky, and I'm well aware of that as well,
Speaker 1: that I've been lucky enough to be able to live lifestyle.
Speaker 1: But and it wouldn't it wouldn't be as easy for
Speaker 1: maybe someone else. But yeah, I think you've just got
Speaker 1: to have that mentality that you can do anything you want.
Speaker 1: You just figure out different ways to make your work
Speaker 1: and be creative with it.
Speaker 2: That's so true though that men do never get us,
Speaker 2: Like can you imagine if Harry if they asked Harry styles. Okay, Harry,
Speaker 2: so when are you having a kid and when is
Speaker 2: your As a result of having.
Speaker 1: Got a chairman man, that's like, first you told me
Speaker 1: that I shouldn't be eating the cake that Spend bought
Speaker 1: us because he's like, you need to watch your figure
Speaker 1: as a woman, and I was just like, watch me
Speaker 1: eat this cake. No, he was just joking around, but
Speaker 1: I think they sort of there's sometimes that mentality with
Speaker 1: a few people. And then he was also like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, like you're getting older, like your eggs are
Speaker 1: going to start trying up. And I was like, and you, like,
Speaker 1: I think saying that to a girl is quite is
Speaker 1: quite rude. And it's also like it's like, who you
Speaker 1: just say that to me about like my you know,
Speaker 1: what's going on inside? Like you know, I just I
Speaker 1: think that's quite a sensitive issue. And that's something in
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, as I've gotten into my
Speaker 1: later twenties that people have sort of brought up about
Speaker 1: like doing a travel thing. But I think you just
Speaker 1: got to brush it off, and I've learned to deal
Speaker 1: with that and just you know, not worry about what
Speaker 1: other people think and just do my own thing for now, so.
Speaker 2: That you're sharing it too, because I'm sure a lot
Speaker 2: of people go through similar things, even in a different
Speaker 2: career paths where there's a lot of judgment questions.
Speaker 3: So mad that people can ask that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: I mean because we we had our mom on the
Speaker 2: podcast for weeks talking about I love that episode.
Speaker 1: I heard that that was the definite listen to them.
Speaker 2: Actually, oh she was so cute, but you know you
Speaker 2: talking about all the private questions people asked her. And
Speaker 2: I feel like people think they can ask women anything,
Speaker 2: like even being triplets, remember because people asked us if we.
Speaker 3: Got our period at the same time.
Speaker 1: I think we've asked that as the girls as well,
Speaker 1: like if we're all grumpy that like obviously, like but yeah,
Speaker 1: like the girls, Gewdre and Claire are very good and
Speaker 1: they just brush it off as well, like I sometimes
Speaker 1: might have a little hard cut back.
Speaker 2: It's that casual sexism though. Yeah, it's everywhere.
Speaker 1: It is, and you kind of just like sometimes you
Speaker 1: just gotta like, yeah, cool, good on you. But then
Speaker 1: other times like there's and I'm so defensive of like
Speaker 1: if anyone says anything rudy to the girls or about
Speaker 1: us as a group, and even like if they say
Speaker 1: something to me, I'm quick to defense so quickly because yeah,
Speaker 1: you just got to have each other's back, so that
Speaker 1: sort of thing. And yeah, and I like sometimes you
Speaker 1: get people from different you know, like they might have
Speaker 1: been brought up differently, and some people can't help what
Speaker 1: you know they've been brought up with or what sort
Speaker 1: of morals they have been taught. But I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I always try and be accepting from their eyes,
Speaker 1: but also like you know, just sort of in a
Speaker 1: polite way, just you know, oh yeah maybe this and
Speaker 1: that or just brush it off kind of thing. But
Speaker 1: each to their own how they want to handle those
Speaker 1: kind of things. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, just lastly to wrap this podcast, yes only because
Speaker 2: we want to get into our next part. Hopefully you've
Speaker 2: got time to do if everyone's listening. It's going to
Speaker 2: be all about answering some dating questions, which I'm so
Speaker 2: excited to do.
Speaker 1: I have no idea if I'm any good at it.
Speaker 3: No, I feel like.
Speaker 2: You're going to be amazing, so The last question is
Speaker 2: I suppose what can we expect from the Germains in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so at the moment, we're writing lots of songs.
Speaker 1: There's going to be a lot more songs about things
Speaker 1: that we're passionate about. We've always wrote about what we're
Speaker 1: passion about. I think this year as well as we've
Speaker 1: changed as well as people in the group, So new songs,
Speaker 1: I think, We've got more things happening overseas. We're still
Speaker 1: in our UK work visa, so we will be heading
Speaker 1: back over there. So touch good with everything with coronavirus
Speaker 1: and things like that's definitely put a bit of a
Speaker 1: spanner in the works, but it's all right. We've just
Speaker 1: go down. Like I said, you just be creative and
Speaker 1: find a different pathway and then but yeah, we will
Speaker 1: be heading back there for some tours and lots of
Speaker 1: festivals over some mysel If there's any UK or European
Speaker 1: people listening, yeah, I'd love to see. So make sure
Speaker 1: you head to Jermaine Sisters dot com or follow us
Speaker 1: on Instagram at Jermaine's Sisters, and yeah, listen to us
Speaker 1: on Spotify. Spotify streams are very good. It's good for
Speaker 1: supporting artists as well, and hopefully see you guys there.
Speaker 2: I feel like our listeners also need to check out
Speaker 2: your art page because you're incredibly talented. SU four images
Speaker 2: of wildlife, a.
Speaker 1: Lot of portraits, yeah, and one. I think one week
Speaker 1: I had like four dash hoound commissions the sausage drugs,
Speaker 1: but they were cute.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be so when she gets her sausage
Speaker 2: been talking about. Thank you so much again, thank you
Speaker 2: for having me.
Speaker 1: It was really nice.