WEBVTT - UNDER THE INFLUENCE: Ella Germein 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:03.800 I think something we always were really adamant about with 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:06.640 our music and just in general with ourselves was we 0:00:06.680 --> 0:00:08.560 don't want to be just good for a girl. We 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:12.440 want to be good. We get asked our age a lot, 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:14.880 which is fine, but I've never heard a boy band 0:00:14.880 --> 0:00:17.600 get age. A lot of people ask about when you 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.280 guys going to stop and start thinking about having children, 0:00:20.320 --> 0:00:23.440 which I was like, well, can't you do both. Whenever 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:25.599 people are embarrassed about things, I'm like, there's always probably 0:00:25.640 --> 0:00:27.960 going to be one story that is your most embarrassing, 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:30.440 so anything that happens after that it's not as bad. 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:32.879 And this was my embarrassing story that I would never 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:33.400 live down. 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:39.640 Hello and welcome to our special Under the Influence episode. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:43.519 On today's show, we speak to musician and media personality 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:47.239 Ella Jermaine. Ella is one third of indie pop siblings 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:50.360 Jermaine The trio, who grew up in the Adelaide Hills, 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:54.080 are taking the music industry by storm, recently opening for 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:57.600 Little Mix and Ronan Keating. We spoke to Ella about 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:00.680 how she got her big break, the challenges women face 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.480 in the music industry, and what it's like to rub 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:10.959 shoulders with your idols Well Ella officially welcome to Outspoken. 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.720 It feels weird talking to you formally because we've just 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:15.199 had a lot of chat off Mike. 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:17.280 The probably can't be ed. 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.119 I just thought we might start off by actually talking 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.520 about how we know each other, because I think it's 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:25.200 kind of interesting how we all met because you're obviously 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:29.160 part of well three Sisters and where three sisters accept 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.120 Kate's not here, but yeah, so how did we all meet? 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:34.760 I think we had a mutual friend at Channel seven, 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:39.039 Beautiful Josephineeto. She was a camera woman there, and she 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:41.320 is like, oh, you go, you would love the tourers, 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:44.920 And we were trying to picture which sister would like 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.880 had the similarity because of obviously us three sisters and 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:50.160 you guys. So I think I was teamed with you 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:52.440 Sophie and they're like, oh, like she's the girly girl. 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:54.240 Oh I'm not that, But I feel like I've got 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:55.520 a good connection with all the three of you. 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:58.280 I think Josie said we were both boy crazy as well. 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:01.360 Oh my gosh. She just Josie and I were like 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:03.960 powers all through UNI and she used to just always 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.559 be on She'd hack into my Facebook and just chat 0:02:06.600 --> 0:02:09.560 to anyone any man that was online or anything like that, 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:12.640 or update my status with something embarrassing. So and she 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:15.400 used to always love giving me staring me up a 0:02:15.400 --> 0:02:17.520 little bit about fellas. But that's all right. 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:22.760 It definitely wasn't Sophie's musical ability. No, no, no, gosh, 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:23.920 I don't know. 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:25.720 I feel like a bit of an imposta sometimes the 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:28.160 music stuff. But yeah, we'll just go with it. 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.240 So I think you're being very modest. 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:30.960 Oh, thank you. 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.400 I suppose we wanted to start off by asking you 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.320 how you actually got involved in music, Like, was it 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.720 a talent that your parents spotted really early? 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:43.080 Yeah? I think well, my dad grew up playing in 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:45.360 a jazz band with his brothers up on the farm 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.040 on your peninsula, and he always loved music. So as 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:49.920 long as I can remember, we've always had music in 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:51.919 our family, more of like a New Orleans sort of 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.799 jazz style, and we used to go and watch Dad 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:56.560 play it, like the Days on the Greens and stuff 0:02:56.560 --> 0:02:58.880 with his jazz band Gumbo ya Ya. You should check 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:00.639 him out. And I remember seeing them on Hey Hey 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.000 at Saturday for the first time when we were kids, 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:04.720 and it was so cool seeing Dad on TV. I 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:10.320 don't know if you remember that show. Yeah, so we 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:13.799 used to always watch Dad and growing up, and we 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.080 were it was a massive privilege when we turned seven 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:18.320 that we were allowed to learn a musical instrument. Although 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.440 I think Georgia started violin when she was four, so 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:23.160 h yeah, and I wanted to play the cell. I 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.320 saw the girl on the ABC I'd playing the cell 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:26.640 and I'm like, I want to learn that. So we 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:28.760 were really that was something that was a massive privilege 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:31.640 for us, and we learned all through school and used 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.480 to do performances for our grandparents. And Mom used to 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.680 enter us in like a Stedfords and then make us 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:39.680 buskin harmed or for lolli money like not maker. She 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:41.880 used to dress us up in old fashioned clothes and 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:44.480 we used to just say yes to whatever our parents 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:46.920 asked us to do. But we obviously enjoyed it. And 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.720 I think we made like ten bucks or something like 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:52.360 in a couple of hours and bought like lollies. But 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.120 back then you could buy everything like twenty cents apples 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:57.560 and things like that. So I think our brother ended 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.839 up handing out lavender bunches and got the equal cut. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.480 Thought that was pretty unfair, but yeah. So, yeah, we've 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.720 been playing music our whole life and then did it 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.600 all through school and then my youngest sister, Georgia, she 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:13.080 always had the biggest passion for it, and everyone was like, oh, 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:15.440 you guys will play music, you should write do a 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:19.680 band together, and yeah ended up. Yeah, yeah, ten years later, 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.159 we're still doing it. But it's been really fun. So, yeah, 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.480 I traveled a lot and seen lots of things, had 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.520 some ups and downs. Is no doubt we'd probably talk 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:27.240 about today. 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.880 But yeah, that was good and as well as obviously 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:32.360 being in the Jermain it's Jermaine. 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.480 Now, it's just Jermaine now. We were Jamaine's sisters, but 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:36.320 we were like, people know we're sisters and they can 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.080 find out we're sisters regardless. But yeah, people still asked 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.279 us if we were sisters when we were called Jermaine's sisters, 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.680 and we're like, we would pretty but we're probably not 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:46.920 like you guys were you look really alike? That's all right? Yeah, 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:47.279 well you. 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.040 Also are on Totally Wild. We were on Totally Wild. 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:52.800 How did you manage both music and obviously journalism. 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:55.720 Yeah, so it was always a massive dream of mine 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:57.720 to be on Totally Wild. That was like the dream 0:04:57.760 --> 0:04:59.240 job when I was a kid growing up, because I 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.920 absolutely door animal was probably an unhealthy obsession with animals, 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.360 but yeah, growing up on a farm, we had lots 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:08.440 of pets growing up, but I absolutely loved media and 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:11.160 TV and film and all that sort of thing, So 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:13.520 combining the two was really the dream job. And I 0:05:13.600 --> 0:05:15.920 applied when I was in year twelve, and I didn't 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:17.599 realize it was a full time job. I thought it 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:19.359 was just like, oh, you just do it on the weekends, 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:23.120 and I got shortlisted and then ended up realizing it 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:25.320 was I was still at school so I couldn't do that, 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.320 not that I was selected anyway, And then I think 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.680 I auditioned two or three more times because I just 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:33.240 I was like, no, I'm going to do it one day, 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:34.800 and I did a film and TV course and did 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:38.040 lots and lots of free presenting work in work experience 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.800 all through UNI and then ended up getting the job 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:42.479 out of I think it was about six hundred girls. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:45.080 The producer said so. And then the next week I 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:47.400 was moved up to Brisbane and started up there. So 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:50.719 that was a massive Yeah, that was a big part 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:52.240 of my life that I was super proud of, but 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.800 also came to a bit of a crossroads because we'd 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.680 just been booked a tour of China and also Germany, 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.560 so I obviously couldn't do both. But they were really 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:02.680 good with me and let me go away for those trips. 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:04.600 But in the end I sort of had to make 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.039 that choice. But I had an amazing time with the 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:10.040 crew at Channel ten and they were really lucky. I 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:11.680 was really lucky sorry, to be able to come back 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.880 as a freelancer back in Adelaide between tours and met 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:16.600 lots of friends there as well, So it was really 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.279 really good experience. And yeah, it was tough though, definitely 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.960 on the band that time, because yeah, it was two 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.560 amazing opportunities and I sort of had to choose which 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:26.520 one to do. But yeah, I was lucky enough to 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.119 keep going with the presenting and yeah and still doing music. 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:33.400 So yeah, and talking about your bandmates, I can understand 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:35.800 being you know, even just working on this podcast with 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:38.359 Sophie and Kate, we have the odd argument, Yeah, what 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.520 is it actually like writing a song. 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:45.279 With your Well, Georgia has always been she's extremely talented, 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:47.400 has always been the songwriter in the group, and she 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:49.640 is really really skilled at that sort of thing, and 0:06:49.680 --> 0:06:51.919 we all sort of bring our own sort of vibe 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:53.600 to it. But in the last couple of years we've 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.120 probably had a bit more input with it, especially recently. 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:58.120 That was sort of the aim for this year to 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:00.040 do a lot more songwriting together. So I think, I 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.000 think it's such a personal thing, and you've been really 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.560 vulnerable when you're writing songs because it can be anything 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:08.280 from a relationship or something you've experienced or seen firsthand, 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.760 and bringing that to your sisters, Like, we're all very 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:14.680 we all get along super well, but we also have 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.680 our own private like things going on as well, So 0:07:17.760 --> 0:07:19.920 opening up to each other sometimes can be a bit scared. 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:21.360 I don't know if you guys are the same, would 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.240 you say or maybe. 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:26.280 Think, Yeah, sometimes there's parts of your life that you 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:29.640 do want to keep separate and private, perhaps with relationships. 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:33.200 Yeah, so you luck you guys are so different though, Yeah. 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:35.200 Yeah, yeah, so we've all I think we've all got 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:37.600 different and so it's quite a vulnerable thing. So it's 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:39.800 sort of scary coming to the grief and being like, oh, 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:41.360 I wrote this song and then we're like, oh, is 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:42.040 that about someone? 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:42.200 So? 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:46.120 But yeah, recently we've just sort of had to nip 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:48.520 that in the button. Yeah, just you know, and it's 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:50.400 and as you get older, I think you become less 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:52.800 scared about that stuff, and the more you keep doing things, 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.240 it's not as scary, like it's always scary the first time. 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.880 But yeah, we have had a few arguments, but we 0:07:58.120 --> 0:07:59.640 like you guys would be the same. Like I think 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:02.080 there's no better team than working with your family sometimes 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:05.280 because you do go off the charts, like probably yelling 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:07.640 or whatever, but then you'll like, now a lady, you'll 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:09.560 probably say sorry, or you'll just move on and be like, oh, 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:11.080 what's for dinner? Like you know what I mean. So, 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:13.280 especially when we've been touring on the road for up 0:08:13.320 --> 0:08:15.880 to a couple of weeks and even months, like sharing 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:18.720 beds and not having any privacy, you just sort of 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:20.840 you just get so used to it and there's no 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.800 other way than to just get on. So, yeah, how. 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:24.840 Did the dynamics work there? 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:27.400 Because I know with three it's kind of hard because 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:28.640 two tend to gang up. 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.360 Do you guys have that issroom? 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:34.440 Oh gosh, I don't know. Like I always feel like 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:37.079 I'm like, oh, middle child syndrome because I'm the middle 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:38.880 out of the three of us, but we're only like 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:42.920 fourteen months apart anyway. But uh, sometimes I think it 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.920 depends like I don't like to be too early to things, 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:49.080 whereas the girls like to be nice and early and prepared, 0:08:49.080 --> 0:08:50.920 which is actually probably the best way to be. But 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.040 I get too nervous, Like for instance, where we were 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:56.040 doing the Little Mix tour, we had fifteen shows with them, 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.360 and we were always the girls. We made sure we 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:01.920 were at stage at least twenty five minutes thirty minutes beforehand, 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:03.560 just to prep and be aware of the space, which 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.559 is really good. But for me, I get so nervous 0:09:05.600 --> 0:09:07.760 just standing still. I need to be busy, so I'm 0:09:07.840 --> 0:09:12.320 like backstage just pacing around and doing exercises and stretches 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.640 and just thinking about something else because I just don't 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:16.520 like being too early. So I think they get annoyed 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.040 with me with that. But yeah, I think we all 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:22.560 have our strengths and weaknesses, but yeah, not too much 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.920 ganging up, which is good. And we have our Tom manager, Bethany, 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.840 who's from Canada as well, and she sort of even 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:29.640 that out as well. So there's four of us girls 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:31.480 in the road, so it's good now. 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:33.920 And as you touched on before, you guys have recently 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.720 come off touring with Little Mix and you're also toured 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.960 with Roan and Keating. Yeah, how did those opportunities come about? 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:42.839 Yeah? We were super lucky, like but also like through 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:44.960 a lot of hard work, and I think we've always said, like, 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:48.360 if you put yourself in an opportunity, things can happen. 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:52.240 So we Yeah, like we started by traveling overseas. We 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.680 record our first alb in Ireland with the guy that 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:57.280 produced The Cause because they have three sisters and someone's like, 0:09:57.280 --> 0:09:59.280 you should do that, and that was ended up being amazing. 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.840 We made so many friendships through that and then ends 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.440 up going to Germany and then Mom used to always 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:06.560 Mum was our manager and she still does a lot 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.200 of management duties for us now. She's very Chris Jenner, 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.280 but maybe not as glamorous, but she's still lovely and 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:14.080 sweet and makes lots of muffins for all the radio 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:17.000 stations and we go through She's she's amazing though, and 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.600 she's she's been one of probably the best influencers in 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:23.160 our lives with just keeping so supportive and she's always 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:24.960 been there for us like some parents are like, go 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:27.200 off to UNI and get a proper job. But she's like, no, 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:29.520 like being a musician. I'm like, Mom, it's so hard. 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.680 She's like it's okay, and she she's always been so 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.760 proud and supportive of us so and she used to say, like, 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.960 the worst someone can say is no, so why she 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:39.959 used to just email everyone She's like, Hey, you've got 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.080 this amazing girl band from Australia. How would you like 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.720 them on your festival? And this fellow one day was like, 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:49.400 oh yeah, sorry, this fella, this guy that's amazing. He's 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:51.520 been an amazing support for us. Runs a big festival 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:54.679 called the Islawight in the UK, and he he was like, yeah, sure, 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:56.560 why not. And then through that he put us in 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:58.720 contact over the next couple of years with their little 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.240 mix and Ronan keating and yeah, through that, it's just 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:04.000 sort of built from there. So we're just really really lucky. 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:06.280 But yeah, you sort of have to just put yourself 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.959 in those situations to get noticed, and like, you never 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.040 know who's in the audience. We Mum used to always 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:12.840 say that, even when we were playing to like three people, 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:16.000 like a old cub or something like that, you never 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:17.880 know who's there. But it's really true, like a lot 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:19.520 of the things and a lot of our successes has 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.800 come from just you know, keep going and keep going. 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:24.360 It's always going to be hard, but you're never losing 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:25.840 if you're still in the race. Like as soon as 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:29.320 you quit, that's when it stops. But yeah, so I 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:32.320 think our tour managers always say you never lose if 0:11:32.320 --> 0:11:32.800 you don't. 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:33.920 Quit, but that's so true. 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.480 Or you know there's one yes, yeah, yeah, that's it. 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:38.560 So what was Little Mix? 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.800 Like, yeah, work with it was amazing. It was so surreal, 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.000 like we've never done a tour of that level before. 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.440 Roadin Keating was amazing. But we did that in Germany 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.560 and we did Boys as well in Australia New Zealand 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.920 and they were such lovely guys and Little Mix were 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:53.840 lovely as well. But yeah, it was It was huge 0:11:53.880 --> 0:11:56.280 because we were playing from anywhere between fifteen thousand to 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.480 thirty two thousand a night and just the go go 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.440 go over all was crazy. But yeah, they were really 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.959 lovely and like, yeah, they obviously it's a lot different 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:06.760 to what people think, like everyone was like, oh, you're 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:08.680 hanging out and this and that, but because they're the 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:10.199 main act. They've got a lot to worry about, so 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:12.480 they've got to you know, get all their they call 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:14.320 it glam when they get all their hair and makeup 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.240 done and also do all their voice warm ups and 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:18.439 things like that, and they have to prepare for their 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:20.640 show as well. So we definitely saw them around and 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.160 probably more towards the end of the tour when things 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:24.959 got a bit more relaxed. But they all had their dogs, 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:26.800 which we thought was so cool because in Australia you 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:28.760 can't really have dogs inside, but they all had all 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:32.440 their cute pooches running around and Perry has this little 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.440 dog called Hatchie that used to rot around your legs, 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.640 so that was cool. And then there was another band 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:38.800 called Ratsu who were awesome. They were like kind of 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:40.360 like a boy hip hop kind of band, so we 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.560 hung out with them ben they were awesome. So it 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:44.720 was just cool, like meeting all these people and even 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.720 not even the bandmates, but the crew as well, like 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:49.520 the people that do the sound and the lighting and 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:52.160 the production, and even the caterers, Like we'd have the 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:54.360 same caterers each day. We're like, oh, that's for dessert. 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.400 That was probably our highlight of the tour actually is 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:59.200 like we had never tried butoffee pie before, so each 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:00.920 day we would just always so excited to get off 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.400 stage and go eat dessert, which is really sad but 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:04.600 it was also cool. 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:06.880 Yeah, I feel like you've also got to share your 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:08.880 little mixed story about the break up. 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:14.120 No, no, yeah, for sure, Like I always say, like, 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.880 it's yeah, like whenever people were embarrassed about things, I'm like, 0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:19.160 there's always probably gonna be one story that is your 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.920 most embarrassing, So anything that happens after that it's not 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.439 as bad. And this was my embarrassing story that I 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:27.360 would never live down. But nothing ever I get boried 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.199 as much about stuff because oh there was two things 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:33.240 that happened on that tour. But one was yeah we 0:13:33.240 --> 0:13:36.880 were at there we Jade who is there? Oh she's 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:38.600 one of those singers as all of them are, but 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:42.320 she has a nightclub in South Shields and she invited 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.200 us too. It was like one of the last shows 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:46.680 of the tour to the after party and she's like, yeah, 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:48.720 you guys are welcome to come. We got a bottle 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:52.080 of prosecco at the table and yeah, but like over 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:54.360 in the UK, they got at like midnight, so we 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.439 were all like so tired, We've been up all day 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:58.480 and we our show was only at like seven, so 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:00.280 but we were like, now we should go. I'll be 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.880 good networking and it'll be fun and you know why not. 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.400 So we got there and yeah, like I was, we 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.480 were sort of just like chilling around and waiting, and 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:09.120 I'd had a couple of glasses of per sec. I 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.440 definitely wasn't drunk or anything, but I was just sort 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.880 of like just a bit more relaxed than usual probably, 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:15.920 and this club was really cool. But I had one 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.000 of those hidden steps. I don't know if you guys 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:21.080 have been, you know when you just trip on something small. Yeah, anyway, 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:22.920 I saw the little mixed girls and I'm like goth 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:24.600 and say hey and say thanks for having us on 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:26.920 the tour and had a chat and then I turn 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:29.000 around and I'm holding my glass and I just this 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:32.560 little step comes and I just completely face cramped. Like 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.720 it was like the worst stack you could ever see, 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.400 and like I just remember it. No one was around, 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:40.240 so that's even worse. So you can't, like, you know, 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:41.920 when you just want to like laugh with someone and 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.480 be like how funny. But no one was around. They 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:46.760 sort of and they would already like we're about ten 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:48.560 meters away, so they were a little bit too far 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.040 to help me up. And then I think some of 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:53.600 the backup dancers came up and they're like, oh, you're okay. 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.520 And then there's the security guard who was he was 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:58.480 like crying with luck. I was so scared of him 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:00.000 the whole tour, but he was actually like a big 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.920 teddy bear. But he came up and he was like 0:15:02.120 --> 0:15:04.920 bawling with laughing. He's like, there's a step there, and 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.120 I was like I know, and he's like, but you 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.640 didn't spill your prosecco, so that's good because it was 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:12.040 literally one of those yeah, horrible stacks. And then I 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:13.960 just quickly ran back to the booth where we were 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.160 and I'm like no, But also because I think I'd 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:21.000 had a couple of drinks. Yeah, celebrationary drinks. We don't 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:23.120 on it every night. Just to put a little disclosure 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.440 in there, but yeah, I think I wasn't as worried, 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.200 and then we hit the dance floor off and had 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.040 a really good night and then we had to laugh 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:30.560 about it. The next day we had to have our 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.960 press photo with the girls and they're like, yeah, we 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:35.600 saw you for we hope you were okay. I was like, yes, 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:36.560 just my ego. 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.960 You'd almost like them to pretend that they didn't see Yeah. 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:40.240 Yeah. 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:44.280 I was like, oh, well, I feel like they'd think 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:46.720 more highly of you the fact that you just got 0:15:46.800 --> 0:15:47.800 up and cause didn't you. 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:49.240 Say that then you hit the dance floor. 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:51.320 Yeah. I was just like, what do you know what 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:53.440 the amount of things that have happened to me on stage, 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:55.400 like when I have kicked because I like to move 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:57.320 around if anyone's seen us play before or if you 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.240 ever do see us, I like to have a bit 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.800 of a boogie prop a little bit too much. And yeah, 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:05.200 I'm very commonly kick the cord out of my bass. 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.800 So then the sound stops and like the sound's not working. 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:09.920 I'm looking at the sound and guy like what's happening? 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:12.880 And we're getting meanwhile filmed on these huge TV screens 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.480 like out towards the crowd, and then I think someone 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:17.360 was in the front row and they like, literally did 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.720 that plug it in? Like it's fallen out, and I 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.160 was like oops, And so I'm just like dancing back 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.880 to the cord and plugging it back in. But yeah, 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.440 and so that was, Yeah, that was another embarrassing moment. 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:31.520 At least you've owned them, yeah, completely, well, especially on 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:33.640 Totally Wild, that was actually probably one of the best 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:36.400 preparing things for what it was next to come in, 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:38.600 like my life with the career and stuff, because you're 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.600 made to do the most silly things and act like 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.680 a complete full on TV. But the sillier and corner 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:46.440 is I remember one of the guys, Seamus, he was 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.760 one of the other presenters. He's like, the more corneer 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.640 you are, the funnier is for kids and stuff. So 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.240 that was always good advice and ever since, like then, 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.200 I think you just kind of like, oh, just own 0:16:56.240 --> 0:16:57.800 it and go with it because whatever. 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:02.200 Yeah, now, not that we're talking about particularly glamorous moments 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:02.520 for you. 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:05.600 Yeah, but I suppose a lot of people would. 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.640 Look at your Instagram and to see all the amazing 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:09.960 things you've been doing. Could you talk us through a 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:12.399 little bit, I suppose about what the reality of being 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:14.840 on a tour in the UK actually is. 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:19.520 Yeah, for sure, Yeah, it's it definitely is an amazing adventure. 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:21.960 But it's not always like I do a lot of 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.320 Jermaine's Instagram and obviously my own as well, And I 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.520 absolutely love photography, but so I try and take beautiful 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.520 photos wherever we are because I'm not I never know 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:31.239 when I'll be back there again, so it's more as 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:33.160 a bit of a memory as well, not trying to 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:35.160 be showing off like, oh, this is where we are today, 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:36.040 but I don't know. 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:39.040 Oh yeah, well Instagram's always the highlight, really. 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:41.960 Yeah yeah, oh but definitely yeah, sorry, Like behind the 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:45.760 scenes for sure, it's definitely like hard. Like we're usually 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:47.800 in a like a van for most of them, and 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:49.840 we're all crabbed in the back. Sometimes if it's a 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:51.680 small car and we've only got a small too, we'll 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:53.920 have like drum kits on our laps and things like that. 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:55.680 So do you fly that all over? 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.920 We usually hire them, but we have all our gear 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.600 and suitcases as well, so usually it's really annoying. I 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:03.440 don't know how you girls would go doing it if 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.560 you like traveling with lots of because I love traveling 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.199 lots of outfits and things to wear, but the girls 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:10.280 are very streets. That's another thing. The sisters do it 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:13.760 like I usually go over with the luggage, but they've 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:15.520 probably been proud of me. In the last couple of years, 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:19.040 I've bit better. But yeah, just yeah, like the instruments 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:21.480 get priority over wait in luggage, so you just have 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.000 to be very smart traveler else you've got more to carry. 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:27.479 So yeah, it's it's definitely it's not as glamorous as 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:31.560 what people definitely think. And you know, especially in Germany, 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:33.200 there's nothing you were asking if there was a few 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.760 funny stories, but yeah, a lot of the venue, especially 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:39.400 when we first started touring Germany, they usually have accommodation included, 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:41.960 and some have been really nice hotels and things, and 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:44.439 other times it might be someone's house, which we learned 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.920 with a few of them. And I remember we one 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:49.840 place we stayed at and I think we finished the 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:52.320 gig at like eleven o'clock or something, and then they 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.040 were like, oh, this is the accommodation. It was the 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.440 attic of their house. And these people collected like these 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:01.480 old fashioned dolls in the chasse creep like Chucky movie. 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:04.239 And I remember they had just three mattresses on the 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:07.200 floor and then they had like these fox skins hanging 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.119 and I remember I was sleeping on the edge and 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:11.439 there was this big animal skin next to me, and 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:13.639 I remember like just as we were like going like 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.040 lying down, I'm like, can I sleep in between you guys? 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.440 And Clara and George like, oh gosh, ella light, They're 0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:21.640 like fine, And then the couple started playing piano at 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:23.159 like two in the morning because they're like, oh, do 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.160 you guys want to come jam? Like just as we'd 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:26.840 gone to bed, it was like this sort of creeping 0:19:26.840 --> 0:19:30.640 piano playing and we're like we're okay, Like so, yeah, 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:32.600 there's been some funny places and other times like the 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:34.960 booked a hotel that's like only got one bed, so 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:36.960 Clara and I've had to sleep on the floor. And 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:39.640 not that Georgia gets prior toy, but like I think 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:41.240 Mom was with us, so we're like, oh, Mum, and 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:43.119 Georgia can because she we sort of need Georgia to 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:44.720 be fitting well because she's sort of the leader of 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.280 the group. So Clara and I were like but we were 0:19:47.240 --> 0:19:49.240 like fun, it's kind of like you you feel like 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:50.840 you're back a kid again, Like you feel like you're 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:52.960 ten years old having a sleepover. So we feel like 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.240 it's always a lot of fun, but definitely not just 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:57.359 glamorous as well it always seems. 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:59.920 And you you guys have a huge fan base of 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:02.480 young girls all over the world. What is it like 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:05.199 to have such influence over them, and is it like 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:06.920 something that's really special to you as well? 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:09.280 Yeah, there's it sort of came a lot of it 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:11.440 came from Little Mix, but we've had some people before 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:13.840 that as well, and they're so it's so beautiful seeing 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:15.720 all these girls come together, and a lot of them, 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:18.320 like we didn't realize, weren't actually friends prior. So they 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:21.480 all sort of shared this common love of our band 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:23.600 and then made these little groups. So I call them 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:25.959 the Chippies because we were saying how much we love 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:28.480 hot Chips, and then every time we see this hot 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:31.080 chip guy, we all send each other a photo because 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:33.040 it's like this hot chip man that stands I don't 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:34.840 know if you've seen. He looks like he's almost smoking. 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:37.280 I think I know who you mean. 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:39.880 Yeah, we call him mister Chippy. Whenever we see him 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:42.639 wherever over the well, like whether it's in Germany or 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.480 the UK or Australia, we're like, oh, we found mister Chippy. 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:47.119 Like it's a weird thing that we all do. But 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:49.600 also they they're so sweet and lovely. And we've also 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:52.800 got some guys as well, these two twin guys. Actually 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:55.160 they're amazing. They go to every single Little Mix show 0:20:55.240 --> 0:20:57.119 and they came to all of our shows as well, 0:20:57.160 --> 0:20:59.840 and they give us like little presents and just they're 0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:02.040 all so sweet. When we were in this ed Sheeran 0:21:02.200 --> 0:21:04.359 competition to open for him, we got into the grand 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.800 final and one of the girls came to the show 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:09.440 and she brought us this book all filled with beautiful 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:12.119 notes and photos from like all the chippies and all 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:14.920 the group. Well, so it was so amazing because sometimes 0:21:14.960 --> 0:21:17.120 I guess like especially with social media or if you're 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.480 not playing shows, you don't really feel like you have 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:22.359 that connection with fans. And we more see them as 0:21:22.400 --> 0:21:24.680 friends as well, because we all give them hugs and 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:26.159 stuff and we see them and it's always just so 0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:28.119 we were so glad when we see them at shows, 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:30.280 because like it can be very unfamiliar over in the 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:32.439 UK and a country that we've never been to before, 0:21:32.520 --> 0:21:34.800 so all like we have been but don't have many 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:36.600 friends and things like that. So when we see these 0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:38.920 guys come to our shows and out to like even 0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:41.920 our Christmas shows, it's so special for us, and yeah, 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:44.040 just seeing them grow and support each other, and they've 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:46.520 even started some of their own social channels helping each 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:48.879 other out, and like they're all going through teenage issues 0:21:48.920 --> 0:21:51.280 which we've been through and still probably go through similar 0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:53.960 kind of things. So I love like helping out with 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:56.480 advice and then they give each other advice and have 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:58.879 this great support system. So that's probably been one of 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:02.639 the most coolest and most probably special things about the group. 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:05.760 Like whether we go massive or not or just keep 0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:08.399 doing what we're doing, I think like, yeah, if anything, 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:10.919 we're just so happy and so proud of these girls 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:13.399 and yeah, glad that we can be an influence on 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:15.720 them as well. And they're like yeah, and it's they're 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:17.960 inspiring to us and make us keep going and we're 0:22:18.000 --> 0:22:19.240 having those tough days as well. 0:22:19.320 --> 0:22:21.200 So is it Did I see it correctly? 0:22:21.200 --> 0:22:24.160 Did one of them get a tattoo of domain on them? 0:22:24.600 --> 0:22:27.720 That I think I saw it one of your instant stories. 0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:31.960 I was like, wow, that's yeah, Yeah, that's so cool. Yeah, 0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:34.639 Like I think I know there was one girl that 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:36.760 was gonna get one done and I think she did. 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:39.520 Yeah she did, Oh Charlie, Yeah, yeah from Germany. Yeah, 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:42.920 she's amazing. Yeah she got that done. Yeah that was Yeah. 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:45.040 I hope it was all right. I think we've sat 0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:47.040 on that logo now so I think they're good. I 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:49.040 know we've gone through a few different texts. 0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:50.240 On it, sisters. 0:22:50.280 --> 0:22:52.840 At the end of it now, I felt the pressure 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:57.040 to keep it that. That's obviously an amazing supporter there. 0:22:57.040 --> 0:22:58.840 But do you have any fans that have gone a 0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:02.560 little bit too far? He stood itstalk affairs. 0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:08.840 No, nothing that's made us uncomfortable. There's like, there's one 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:12.280 fella in Germany who's called sweat Span and his family, 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:15.840 so they were really die hard from the first moment 0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:17.520 they saw us when we were like you now, Like 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:19.880 I think we were nineteen or twenty when we first 0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:22.840 went to Germany and they came to the show, like 0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:25.480 not knowing us at all, and this guy decided he's 0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:27.959 going to be out. Then he's been so amazing, Like 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:29.760 over the years, he gets a photo with us at 0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:32.280 each gig, and then he'll get a T shirt printed 0:23:32.320 --> 0:23:34.080 with each gig that he's been to, and every time 0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:36.600 he comes to another gig, he'll add another date to 0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:38.639 this T shirt or make more T shirts and recently 0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:41.000 we're in Germany. He all gave us a T shirt 0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:42.520 of each other because he's like, I always wear a 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:45.040 T shirt of you, So here's sorry, this is a 0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:46.680 really bad accent, but here's. 0:23:46.560 --> 0:23:47.200 A T shirt. 0:23:47.680 --> 0:23:49.879 He's a T shirt of like you guys that you 0:23:49.880 --> 0:23:53.639 can wear. And he knows that we're vegetarian vegan, especially 0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:56.280 George's although to a lot, so he makes us these big, 0:23:56.880 --> 0:23:58.240 beautiful cakes and muffins. 0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:01.800 Yeah, we'll probably be listening to this as well. 0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:05.239 So, yeah, he's so lovely and they always help us 0:24:05.280 --> 0:24:07.240 pack up and stuff. So it's cool having these people 0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:09.960 all over the world that we've met prem MWS and yeah, 0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:11.560 like we've just been so lucky and a lot of 0:24:11.600 --> 0:24:13.600 people have been so generous as well, because it's definitely 0:24:13.600 --> 0:24:16.160 an industry where it's got ups and downs financially and 0:24:16.840 --> 0:24:19.080 just like the mental strain of it and sometimes not 0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:21.119 always staying at hotels can be hard. So we've got 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:24.040 a lot of places that sorry, some lovely people that 0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:26.280 have helped us out with accommodation or let us stay 0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:27.960 in their homes and things like that to give us 0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:30.880 more of that home family vibe. So there's a beautiful 0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:33.280 couple in the UK that put us up for a 0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:35.800 bit as well, and then a guy in Germany and 0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:37.840 all over the place. So if anyone's listening, thank you 0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:40.480 for that. So yeah, it's been great that home noiy 0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:41.440 from home kind of thing. 0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:44.920 We're talking about the fans. We do have some questions, Yeah, 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:47.480 the fans that they've sent in, So I think we'll 0:24:47.480 --> 0:24:50.600 probably get to them because obviously they want these answered. Sure, 0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:55.159 So one lovely fan wrote, what's your advice to keeping 0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:56.680 anxiety onto control? 0:24:57.119 --> 0:25:00.240 Yeah, for sure. I'm a huge suffer of anxiety. I 0:25:00.280 --> 0:25:02.520 think I've been since a young child. Like I used 0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:05.199 to hate performing and would always cry before going on 0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:07.119 stage when I was a kid, which is quite strange 0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:08.800 that I'm doing this now. I ever would have thought that. 0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:11.760 But when TV, Yeah, I know it's so weird. I 0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:13.560 think I always wanted to but I was just so 0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:15.879 shy and stage fright. There's a video of me crying 0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:18.760 in a cloud costume with a cloud makeup on, like 0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:21.359 I was like happy the cloud, like writing off stage 0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:24.720 at ten years old. But yeah, I think like over 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.560 the years it's and it's something that everyone goes through. 0:25:27.560 --> 0:25:29.640 But it's just about handling it, and I've just learned 0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:34.040 it's about how you sort of control the situation yourself. 0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:36.119 Like sometimes things are so out of your control you 0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:37.840 can't do anything about it. But the best thing you 0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:40.560 can do is sort of just think about things that 0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:42.840 you can control and think about the emotions that you 0:25:42.880 --> 0:25:46.359 can control. But yeah, like for me on tour, I 0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:49.040 get extremely lonely. Like a lot of people, see, you're 0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:51.320 so busy and you're always around people, but sometimes you 0:25:51.359 --> 0:25:53.240 get home and you have no one to call, and 0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:55.639 if you're not in a relationship, you don't have that 0:25:55.760 --> 0:25:58.000 special person to you know, just have a chat to 0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:01.360 which I absolutely love people how my day ors and things. 0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:03.600 But if you don't have that, you can become extremely lonely. 0:26:03.640 --> 0:26:06.879 But I think it's just sort of making you enough 0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:09.960 and thinking of things that make you happy. So yeah, 0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:12.480 I think, and just doing things that distract you. Like 0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:14.280 for me, i'd go for a walk or like, because 0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:16.679 I love photography, I'd go out and find something different. 0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:19.159 To you just really immerse yourself in the different areas 0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:22.840 that you're out. But yeah, I think, Yeah, anxiety is 0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:24.760 a hard one because it's a different case. It's different 0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:27.400 for everybody. But I think just taking big breaths and 0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:29.320 just thinking what you can control, think of the good 0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:31.720 things in your life, how happy and how lucky you are, 0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:33.720 just to be alive and just to be able to 0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:35.960 do what you do. And then also helping other people, 0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.600 maybe talking to someone else that has anxiety, because I 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:41.000 think when you realize the more people that have it, 0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.160 you can share your stories. You realize you're not alone 0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:46.240 and everyone's got their problems. Like I remember reading something, 0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.520 if everyone through their problems in a pile and saw 0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:52.080 everyone else, they'd probably take theirs back because yeah, they 0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:55.040 you know, each to their own. So yeah, that's probably 0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:55.760 my best advice. 0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:57.359 And it's a hard one, isn't it though, because I 0:26:57.400 --> 0:27:00.600 feel like so many people have anxiety or go through 0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:03.560 anxious thoughts. Because even I'm always one of those people 0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:06.040 who second guess everything I say, and when you've got 0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:07.040 your sisters around. 0:27:06.920 --> 0:27:08.199 You can be like, we was that all right that 0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:08.880 I said that? 0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:11.800 So I feel like everyone, knowing that so many people 0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:13.760 go through it has to be some. 0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:16.520 Kind of thought base. I suppose to tell. 0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:19.480 A lot of people want to know when you're going 0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:21.920 to be back touring in Scotland, and also when you're 0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:22.879 coming to Switzerland. 0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:26.359 Oh that's nice. Yeah, as soon as we can. I 0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:28.800 think we definitely have a little headline show again at 0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:30.399 the end of the year in Scotland. We had a 0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:32.360 good year last year, so we'll be back there again, 0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:33.720 which is going to give it a bit of time 0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:36.800 as well for some new music and things, and same 0:27:36.880 --> 0:27:38.960 with Switzerland. I think we'll be back doing the Coolest 0:27:39.000 --> 0:27:41.360 Shoulder again, so I look forward to seeing everyone there. 0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:44.080 This is a bit of a controversial question. Who's your 0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:46.359 favorite sister? I don't know. 0:27:46.320 --> 0:27:50.200 I don't know if it's so hard because I love 0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:53.480 both of them equally but in different ways. Clara is amazing. 0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:55.960 She's the oldest, not very much, but she's sort of 0:27:55.960 --> 0:27:57.960 the mediator and the calm one. I'll have to ask 0:27:57.960 --> 0:27:59.919 you guys this question too, because I want to know 0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:02.919 what the dynamics are and you guys. But yeah, Clara's 0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:05.480 sort of the mediator and the calm one of the group, 0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:08.359 and she's sort of if George and I have creative differences, 0:28:08.400 --> 0:28:10.879 she usually thoughts of like, Okay, so you're thinking this 0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:12.760 and you're thinking that, so why don't we do this? 0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:15.439 So she's really good. But then Georgia is just so 0:28:15.640 --> 0:28:18.639 ridiculously talented. I've never sort of met anyone. And I 0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:20.520 don't know if it's biased because she's my sister, but 0:28:20.760 --> 0:28:24.240 just the way she can play music without like reading 0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:26.600 music and just pick things up and just play things. 0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:28.119 You just ask her to play a song, she can 0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:31.120 do that, and the songs she writes so clever and beautiful, 0:28:31.200 --> 0:28:32.760 so which is one of the reasons why I think 0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:36.000 I've stayed doing music, because it's so amazing working with 0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.120 her and just being part of it all, and it's 0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:41.040 quite special doing that. As sisters, She's gonna let things 0:28:41.080 --> 0:28:43.280 are hilarious because I would never say this to her face. 0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:46.480 Oh like I would. I would, but she'd also be like, 0:28:46.560 --> 0:28:49.280 he I've got this on tape now when we're having fights. 0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:52.280 But yeah, so she's Yeah, she's great, and she's she 0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:54.800 works really really hard. So yeah, I love I think 0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:57.200 I love both of them. And I've got another sister, 0:28:57.200 --> 0:28:59.560 Beth as well, who was older, who hates I love Beth. 0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:01.680 If you're live, I didn't know you had another. 0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:03.040 Yeah, that was blowing my mud. 0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:05.479 Yeah, we've got us. There's six of us in the family. 0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:09.120 So got Beth and Sam and then but she's got 0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:11.600 two beautiful children, and yeah, I lived out on a 0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.560 farm in South Australia with her lovely husband, so yeah, 0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:17.480 but she's amazing as well, and Sam too, and then Charlie. 0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:18.800 So it's a big group of us. 0:29:19.200 --> 0:29:21.920 So you love them all I love yeah? 0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:24.479 Yeah, Well actually, who do you love more than your 0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:25.480 sisters or Pasimo? 0:29:25.600 --> 0:29:28.000 Your oh my gosh. 0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:30.080 So we've had a few, yeah, a few people asking 0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:32.360 this isn't just for me personally, because I also want 0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:35.120 to know about pismo. But Ella has an amazing would 0:29:35.120 --> 0:29:36.840 you call it a pet or a rescue possem? 0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:39.920 So it's a rescue cost them from Fauna Rescue. So 0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.400 when we had the Loverthaw bush fires, I think it 0:29:42.600 --> 0:29:45.280 was she was blown out of her mother's pouch and 0:29:45.280 --> 0:29:47.240 they couldn't find the mother and she was still too 0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:49.040 young to be released, so I think she was she 0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:52.080 needed like her four feeds a day. And when I 0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:54.360 was actually doing totally wild, I did a story with 0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:56.800 Bev Langley from Minton Farm who has a whole bunch 0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:58.720 of possums, and she gave me a couple of rescues 0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:00.640 and I read them and then really send back into 0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:02.400 the wild because where I live up in the hills, 0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:05.400 where my parents live, it's a great possum releasing place. 0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.600 So she called me up when they recently had one 0:30:08.600 --> 0:30:11.160 boardy and it was only one. So yeah, I've been 0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:14.000 looking after her the last few months and she's so cute, 0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:17.680 she's I've probably spoilt her a little bit, but I just, yeah, 0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.880 I'm starting to get her back into it's cooled in 0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.120 I think it's called in Richmond, where they sort of 0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:25.240 learn different skills they would in the wild. So I 0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:28.040 put trees around like the curtains. This is I feel 0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:33.680 like I'm going down a few cool points, but it's cool. Yeah, 0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:37.040 but yeah, she's she's awesome. Yeah, I just I was 0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:40.160 just fed her some milk before I left. So yeah, 0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.240 she's really sweet and cute. But yeah, she will have 0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.440 to go back out because it's only fair for her 0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:46.320 to be back in the wild. But yeah, I'm just 0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:48.080 trying to get her prepped at the moment. So we're 0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:51.320 in pre season for the while, and I'll be going 0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.640 back overseas on two soon too, so she will need 0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:56.239 to But I think mums. I've been training mum how 0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:57.320 to look after it too. 0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:01.280 Yeah, but she needs another mother she can always. 0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.479 Yes, no, she's really cute. We also have five rescue 0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.000 Joey's as well from Fauna Rescue. They're a bit bigger 0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:08.440 now too though, so my sister Georgia looks after them. 0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:11.080 So yeah, got a got a good connection with Fauna Rescue. 0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:12.920 And we've just done our bush fire benefit, which you 0:31:12.960 --> 0:31:15.320 guys are out, which was so cool to see and 0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:17.200 be out to announce how much we raised soon but 0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:18.560 a lot of that money will be going to Foreigner 0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:19.600 Rescue on the CFS. 0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:22.040 So yeah, And it was a little bit awkward when 0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:23.280 we did see some of the A f l. 0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:27.080 W after that podcast. 0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:29.280 Yeah, well, I know I felt like. 0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:31.440 Did you come with a conclusion with what you guys 0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:32.720 both prefer? No. 0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:34.960 Our conclusion was I love the A f l W. 0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.040 I just I just don't think it should be called 0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:39.080 a f l M. That was my only But you 0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:39.720 know what if. 0:31:40.080 --> 0:31:42.000 Because I couldn't tell you guys have a voice, I 0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:45.080 wasn't sure which one of you was the foreign against. 0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:47.640 Kate was Kate was four, and so I seem to 0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:49.880 be against So when we listened to it against just 0:31:50.200 --> 0:31:53.960 against a changing the name. Yeah, yeah, they were so cool. 0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:55.320 I wanted Aaron Phillips's shoes. 0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:59.360 She's the best. They're the most awesome chicks we've been. 0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:02.080 They've been so supportive of our band over the last 0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:03.760 couple of years and come to our shows and we'll 0:32:03.800 --> 0:32:06.200 come to the games and yeah, it's so cool seeing 0:32:06.280 --> 0:32:10.200 these girls out there doing yeah, like the female footing. 0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:12.280 And you played female football too. 0:32:12.440 --> 0:32:14.280 I did play a couple of season. I actually flew 0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:16.480 back from Ronan keating our last show with Rodan in 0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:18.280 Germany a few years ago because it was our first 0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:21.720 year in the Sorry that was my fault. It was 0:32:21.760 --> 0:32:24.200 our first year at the Mount Lofty Devils in the 0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:26.640 Adelaide Hills and we got into the grand final and 0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:28.600 I was super jet lag. We ended up losing by 0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:30.920 a point, which sucked, but like it was, I was 0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:33.280 so into it. I remember like having my footy shorts 0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:35.120 with me overseas and I'd wear them to bed and 0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:38.000 I was all prepped. So yeah, I think it's so 0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:41.760 cool and it's so awesome seeing so many girls out there, yeah, 0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:44.840 killing it at sport and music and everything else as 0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:47.120 well a lot of female leaders and you guys as well, 0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:50.480 I think are so inspiring. To Like us girls were 0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:52.360 listening to you overseas when we were on the road 0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:54.320 and we just thought you were so hilarious and it's 0:32:54.360 --> 0:32:56.120 just and like just so cool as well, like in 0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:57.920 all the stories you guys do and the people you 0:32:57.960 --> 0:32:58.760 talk to, I think. 0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:02.000 Is so senior. Fifty dollars in the post. 0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:04.920 It's dead set true though, and I think it's so inspiring, 0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:07.520 so you guys going out and you know, inspiring other 0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:09.800 women to start their own businesses and all that sort 0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:12.440 of thing as well. So yeah, I'm a bit of 0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:15.120 a fan girl. I was very nervous to do this 0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:16.200 one today. 0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:19.040 Ella's our second biggest band other than our mum. 0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:21.840 I think, yeah, oh no, I love it in the 0:33:21.880 --> 0:33:24.200 show of the show, Oh no. Just in general, I'm 0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:27.280 saving up for the Steppa machine at the gym because 0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:29.880 it's never fun, but you got your podcast makes it fun, 0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:32.200 so I will listen to that the gym later on. 0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:35.880 Talking before kind of about the gender debate and equality, Yeah, 0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:38.440 do you think that there are some challenges you guys 0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:41.680 face being young females that maybe male performers don't face 0:33:41.720 --> 0:33:42.600 in Europe or. 0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:47.480 Australbe Sometimes I feel like it's almost been working. It's 0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:49.280 been really good for us. I think there's no better 0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:52.240 time at the moment to be a female in yeah, 0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:54.280 in music, but just in anything. I think something we 0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:57.120 always were really adamant about with our music and just 0:33:57.200 --> 0:33:59.480 in general with ourselves was we don't want to be 0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:01.440 just good for a girl. We want to be good, 0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:03.520 which was actually a theme of a song that we're writing. 0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:07.360 But we don't we I think like a lot of 0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:10.040 people like, oh, you girls are good at guitar for girls, 0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:11.799 like kind of thing and George used together and she's 0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:15.640 an amazing guitarist. And I remember an old boyfriend of 0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:17.520 mine was like, you don't want to be walking in 0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:19.359 place and being like, oh, yeah, they're all right because 0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:21.719 they're chicks, like that sounds decent. They want to just say, wow, 0:34:21.719 --> 0:34:23.919 these girls are really really good. And that was something 0:34:23.920 --> 0:34:26.080 that always stuck with me that he said. So I 0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:29.600 think that's been something that we've tried to We think 0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.160 it's very important that everyone is equal, and like, you know, 0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:34.920 no matter what it is with nominations with awards or 0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:37.640 festival bills or anything, I think it's always good to 0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:40.480 have the best people. And you know, it's great to 0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:42.960 have a lot of diversity as well, like having girls 0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:45.960 and guys, all girl bands or just boy bands. Like 0:34:45.960 --> 0:34:48.759 I think it's so important to have lots of diversity, 0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:52.640 but also have especially for things just as yourself, just 0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:54.799 to be the best you can, no matter what your 0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:57.600 gender is or your preferences or anything like that, because 0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:00.520 I think that's sometimes we never want to be like 0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:03.840 playing the female card on anything. We want people to 0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:05.440 hear our music and it could be a guy thing 0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:07.400 em though it was clearly very much a girl but 0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:09.520 we just want to be on an equal playing fields. 0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:11.279 But it's been amazing and there's a lot of great 0:35:11.320 --> 0:35:13.120 support systems out there for women. I was at a 0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:15.440 women's breakfast for music recently in Adelaide, and it was 0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.240 so cool seeing all the support and the women coming together. 0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:20.000 Can I think you guys have addressed it too. It's 0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:22.920 about bringing girls up then you know, beating them down 0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:25.000 or trying to compete against them, because we're all in 0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:27.120 it together and we're all feeling the same thing. So 0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:30.040 I think it's really important like supporting each other's each 0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:32.759 girls as well, but also not defaming men either, because 0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:34.279 there's a lot of great men out there as well 0:35:34.320 --> 0:35:36.160 that have been supportive of us too, So I wouldn't 0:35:36.160 --> 0:35:38.040 be fair for us to be like, screw the boys, 0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:41.080 because you know, we've had both help, amazing help from 0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:42.000 both girls and boys. 0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:43.359 So it's so. 0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:46.680 Good as well that you guys have that mentality because 0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:49.640 I think that's so good for young women who listen 0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:51.000 to your music and love you. 0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:51.719 Guys to hear. 0:35:52.320 --> 0:35:54.600 And it's crazy because it's funny when you're saying all 0:35:54.640 --> 0:35:57.000 of those points. It made me really think because I 0:35:57.040 --> 0:36:00.359 never think, oh, they're just on the festival because they're 0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:02.560 a girl group. But I suppose one of those politics 0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:04.000 do come into choosing. 0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:06.400 Yeah, Like, we we didn't ever want to just be 0:36:06.480 --> 0:36:09.319 selected because we're a girl band. Like obviously it's great 0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:11.280 to have as many girls on the bill as possible 0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:14.280 because there's not that much representation of in some areas. 0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:15.919 But we also didn't want to just be there because 0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:17.680 we were girls. We wanted to be there because we 0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:19.640 were good enough to be there and worked hard enough 0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:21.240 and deserve to be there as well. 0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:26.600 So yeah, And something that Taylor Swift Queen Amazing Yeah, 0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:29.040 she touched on last year was the fact that as 0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:31.879 she approached thirty, she felt like she was getting asked 0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.200 a lot of questions that male artists perhaps wouldn't get. 0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:35.720 For sure, you think. 0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:37.759 That's something that happens with you guys. Obviously you're in 0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:39.719 your twenties at the moment, but you feel that a 0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:40.160 little bit. 0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:43.239 Yeah, definitely. I think we get a lot. We get 0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.759 asked our age a lot, which is fine, but I've 0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:47.759 never heard a boy band get us their age. A 0:36:47.760 --> 0:36:50.080 lot of people ask about when you guys going to 0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:53.080 stop and start thinking about having children, which I was like, well, 0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:55.279 can't you do both? You know what I mean? Like 0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:57.000 it's I was like, I don't know what I'd look 0:36:57.080 --> 0:36:59.360 like with a pregnant pregnant base player, but with my 0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:00.960 I've got a little hoffner now, so I can just 0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:03.000 put that on top of it if that ended up happening. 0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:05.319 But no, like your partner can stay at home and 0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:06.760 look after your baby as well. 0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.400 Well, it works, And I've seen so many amazing couples 0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:11.600 on the road do it, like you know, like Ronan 0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:13.920 and his wife and she's she had a little baby 0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.520 while he was on tour, and you know, obviously she 0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:18.440 wasn't playing, but you know, you can if you've got 0:37:18.480 --> 0:37:21.239 a supportive partner and like a supportive group around you. 0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:23.320 You can do it. It's obviously going to be hard, 0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:26.239 but I think like there's a lot of stereotypes of 0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:28.080 what and like people like to sort of tell you 0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:29.640 what you can and can't do, and when you're doing 0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:32.120 something a little different, there are those times and people 0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:34.279 like to sort of tell you, oh, no, you can't 0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:35.759 do that, There's no way you can do that. When 0:37:35.800 --> 0:37:38.799 when's this expiry day? Which is something that's always sort 0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:40.520 of gotten under my skin a bit because I'm like, well, 0:37:40.520 --> 0:37:43.440 why can't I do both? And why can't I do media? 0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:45.239 And why can't I do music? And why can't I 0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:47.840 do art? But also have a posim at home and 0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:50.600 also like to you know, travel and do different things 0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:53.480 as well. So I think it's just it's good this 0:37:53.560 --> 0:37:55.200 day and age we live in. And I'm very very 0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:57.759 fortunate and lucky, and I'm well aware of that as well, 0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:00.480 that I've been lucky enough to be able to live lifestyle. 0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:02.239 But and it wouldn't it wouldn't be as easy for 0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:04.560 maybe someone else. But yeah, I think you've just got 0:38:04.560 --> 0:38:06.680 to have that mentality that you can do anything you want. 0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:08.480 You just figure out different ways to make your work 0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:09.520 and be creative with it. 0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:11.960 That's so true though that men do never get us, 0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:15.600 Like can you imagine if Harry if they asked Harry styles. Okay, Harry, 0:38:15.640 --> 0:38:17.440 so when are you having a kid and when is 0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:19.400 your As a result of having. 0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:22.840 Got a chairman man, that's like, first you told me 0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:25.080 that I shouldn't be eating the cake that Spend bought 0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:27.200 us because he's like, you need to watch your figure 0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:32.279 as a woman, and I was just like, watch me 0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:36.239 eat this cake. No, he was just joking around, but 0:38:36.280 --> 0:38:38.920 I think they sort of there's sometimes that mentality with 0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:40.799 a few people. And then he was also like, oh, 0:38:40.880 --> 0:38:43.200 you know, like you're getting older, like your eggs are 0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:46.480 going to start trying up. And I was like, and you, like, 0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.080 I think saying that to a girl is quite is 0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:51.920 quite rude. And it's also like it's like, who you 0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:54.480 just say that to me about like my you know, 0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.239 what's going on inside? Like you know, I just I 0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:59.480 think that's quite a sensitive issue. And that's something in 0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:01.920 the last couple of years, as I've gotten into my 0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:05.080 later twenties that people have sort of brought up about 0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:07.080 like doing a travel thing. But I think you just 0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:09.120 got to brush it off, and I've learned to deal 0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:10.880 with that and just you know, not worry about what 0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:13.080 other people think and just do my own thing for now, so. 0:39:13.760 --> 0:39:15.319 That you're sharing it too, because I'm sure a lot 0:39:15.360 --> 0:39:17.600 of people go through similar things, even in a different 0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:20.320 career paths where there's a lot of judgment questions. 0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:22.840 So mad that people can ask that kind of stuff. 0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:24.920 I mean because we we had our mom on the 0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:28.240 podcast for weeks talking about I love that episode. 0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:30.560 I heard that that was the definite listen to them. 0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:32.600 Actually, oh she was so cute, but you know you 0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:35.799 talking about all the private questions people asked her. And 0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:38.160 I feel like people think they can ask women anything, 0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:40.759 like even being triplets, remember because people asked us if we. 0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:42.279 Got our period at the same time. 0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:45.360 I think we've asked that as the girls as well, 0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:48.919 like if we're all grumpy that like obviously, like but yeah, 0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:51.360 like the girls, Gewdre and Claire are very good and 0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:54.120 they just brush it off as well, like I sometimes 0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:55.440 might have a little hard cut back. 0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:59.840 It's that casual sexism though. Yeah, it's everywhere. 0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:01.560 It is, and you kind of just like sometimes you 0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:04.759 just gotta like, yeah, cool, good on you. But then 0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:07.840 other times like there's and I'm so defensive of like 0:40:07.880 --> 0:40:10.480 if anyone says anything rudy to the girls or about 0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:12.680 us as a group, and even like if they say 0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:15.799 something to me, I'm quick to defense so quickly because yeah, 0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:17.480 you just got to have each other's back, so that 0:40:17.560 --> 0:40:20.480 sort of thing. And yeah, and I like sometimes you 0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:23.600 get people from different you know, like they might have 0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:25.960 been brought up differently, and some people can't help what 0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:28.600 you know they've been brought up with or what sort 0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:31.200 of morals they have been taught. But I think, yeah, 0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:33.680 like I always try and be accepting from their eyes, 0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:36.719 but also like you know, just sort of in a 0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:39.960 polite way, just you know, oh yeah maybe this and 0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:41.759 that or just brush it off kind of thing. But 0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:43.759 each to their own how they want to handle those 0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:44.719 kind of things. Yeah. 0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:49.720 Well, just lastly to wrap this podcast, yes only because 0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.319 we want to get into our next part. Hopefully you've 0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:54.400 got time to do if everyone's listening. It's going to 0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:57.759 be all about answering some dating questions, which I'm so 0:40:57.840 --> 0:40:58.640 excited to do. 0:40:58.719 --> 0:40:59.960 I have no idea if I'm any good at it. 0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:01.239 No, I feel like. 0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:03.440 You're going to be amazing, so The last question is 0:41:03.440 --> 0:41:05.799 I suppose what can we expect from the Germains in 0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:06.680 twenty twenty. 0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:08.960 Yeah, so at the moment, we're writing lots of songs. 0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:11.239 There's going to be a lot more songs about things 0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:13.319 that we're passionate about. We've always wrote about what we're 0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:15.120 passion about. I think this year as well as we've 0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:18.360 changed as well as people in the group, So new songs, 0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:21.680 I think, We've got more things happening overseas. We're still 0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:23.520 in our UK work visa, so we will be heading 0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:26.520 back over there. So touch good with everything with coronavirus 0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:27.960 and things like that's definitely put a bit of a 0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:30.160 spanner in the works, but it's all right. We've just 0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:32.400 go down. Like I said, you just be creative and 0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:34.960 find a different pathway and then but yeah, we will 0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:36.759 be heading back there for some tours and lots of 0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:39.800 festivals over some mysel If there's any UK or European 0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:42.080 people listening, yeah, I'd love to see. So make sure 0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:44.560 you head to Jermaine Sisters dot com or follow us 0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:47.960 on Instagram at Jermaine's Sisters, and yeah, listen to us 0:41:47.960 --> 0:41:51.080 on Spotify. Spotify streams are very good. It's good for 0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:54.000 supporting artists as well, and hopefully see you guys there. 0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:56.080 I feel like our listeners also need to check out 0:41:56.120 --> 0:42:00.760 your art page because you're incredibly talented. SU four images 0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:02.000 of wildlife, a. 0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:05.080 Lot of portraits, yeah, and one. I think one week 0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:09.320 I had like four dash hoound commissions the sausage drugs, 0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:10.000 but they were cute. 0:42:10.080 --> 0:42:12.400 Yeah, that would be so when she gets her sausage 0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:15.920 been talking about. Thank you so much again, thank you 0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:16.480 for having me. 0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:17.440 It was really nice.