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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to our special Under the Influence episode.

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Speaker 2: On today's show, we speak to musician and media personality

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Speaker 2: Ella Jermaine. Ella is one third of indie pop siblings

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Speaker 2: shoulders with your idols Well Ella officially welcome to Outspoken.

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Speaker 2: It feels weird talking to you formally because we've just

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Speaker 1: We usually hire them, but we have all our gear

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Speaker 1: and suitcases as well, so usually it's really annoying. I

435
00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,440
Speaker 1: don't know how you girls would go doing it if

436
00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,560
Speaker 1: you like traveling with lots of because I love traveling

437
00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,199
Speaker 1: lots of outfits and things to wear, but the girls

438
00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,280
Speaker 1: are very streets. That's another thing. The sisters do it

439
00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,760
Speaker 1: like I usually go over with the luggage, but they've

440
00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,520
Speaker 1: probably been proud of me. In the last couple of years,

441
00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,040
Speaker 1: I've bit better. But yeah, just yeah, like the instruments

442
00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,480
Speaker 1: get priority over wait in luggage, so you just have

443
00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,000
Speaker 1: to be very smart traveler else you've got more to carry.

444
00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's definitely it's not as glamorous as

445
00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,560
Speaker 1: what people definitely think. And you know, especially in Germany,

446
00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,200
Speaker 1: there's nothing you were asking if there was a few

447
00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,760
Speaker 1: funny stories, but yeah, a lot of the venue, especially

448
00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,400
Speaker 1: when we first started touring Germany, they usually have accommodation included,

449
00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,960
Speaker 1: and some have been really nice hotels and things, and

450
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Speaker 1: other times it might be someone's house, which we learned

451
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Speaker 1: with a few of them. And I remember we one

452
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Speaker 1: place we stayed at and I think we finished the

453
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Speaker 1: gig at like eleven o'clock or something, and then they

454
00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,040
Speaker 1: were like, oh, this is the accommodation. It was the

455
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Speaker 1: attic of their house. And these people collected like these

456
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Speaker 1: old fashioned dolls in the chasse creep like Chucky movie.

457
00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,239
Speaker 1: And I remember they had just three mattresses on the

458
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Speaker 1: floor and then they had like these fox skins hanging

459
00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,119
Speaker 1: and I remember I was sleeping on the edge and

460
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,439
Speaker 1: there was this big animal skin next to me, and

461
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,639
Speaker 1: I remember like just as we were like going like

462
00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,040
Speaker 1: lying down, I'm like, can I sleep in between you guys?

463
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,440
Speaker 1: And Clara and George like, oh gosh, ella light, They're

464
00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,640
Speaker 1: like fine, And then the couple started playing piano at

465
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Speaker 1: like two in the morning because they're like, oh, do

466
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,160
Speaker 1: you guys want to come jam? Like just as we'd

467
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:26,840
Speaker 1: gone to bed, it was like this sort of creeping

468
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,640
Speaker 1: piano playing and we're like we're okay, Like so, yeah,

469
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,600
Speaker 1: there's been some funny places and other times like the

470
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,960
Speaker 1: booked a hotel that's like only got one bed, so

471
00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:36,960
Speaker 1: Clara and I've had to sleep on the floor. And

472
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Speaker 1: not that Georgia gets prior toy, but like I think

473
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,240
Speaker 1: Mom was with us, so we're like, oh, Mum, and

474
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,119
Speaker 1: Georgia can because she we sort of need Georgia to

475
00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,720
Speaker 1: be fitting well because she's sort of the leader of

476
00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,280
Speaker 1: the group. So Clara and I were like but we were

477
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,240
Speaker 1: like fun, it's kind of like you you feel like

478
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 1: you're back a kid again, Like you feel like you're

479
00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 1: ten years old having a sleepover. So we feel like

480
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,240
Speaker 1: it's always a lot of fun, but definitely not just

481
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 1: glamorous as well it always seems.

482
00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 2: And you you guys have a huge fan base of

483
00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 2: young girls all over the world. What is it like

484
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,199
Speaker 2: to have such influence over them, and is it like

485
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,920
Speaker 2: something that's really special to you as well?

486
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's it sort of came a lot of it

487
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,440
Speaker 1: came from Little Mix, but we've had some people before

488
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,840
Speaker 1: that as well, and they're so it's so beautiful seeing

489
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 1: all these girls come together, and a lot of them,

490
00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 1: like we didn't realize, weren't actually friends prior. So they

491
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 1: all sort of shared this common love of our band

492
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 1: and then made these little groups. So I call them

493
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Speaker 1: the Chippies because we were saying how much we love

494
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 1: hot Chips, and then every time we see this hot

495
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,080
Speaker 1: chip guy, we all send each other a photo because

496
00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 1: it's like this hot chip man that stands I don't

497
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 1: know if you've seen. He looks like he's almost smoking.

498
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 3: I think I know who you mean.

499
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we call him mister Chippy. Whenever we see him

500
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 1: wherever over the well, like whether it's in Germany or

501
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 1: the UK or Australia, we're like, oh, we found mister Chippy.

502
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 1: Like it's a weird thing that we all do. But

503
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 1: also they they're so sweet and lovely. And we've also

504
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 1: got some guys as well, these two twin guys. Actually

505
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,160
Speaker 1: they're amazing. They go to every single Little Mix show

506
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,119
Speaker 1: and they came to all of our shows as well,

507
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 1: and they give us like little presents and just they're

508
00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 1: all so sweet. When we were in this ed Sheeran

509
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,359
Speaker 1: competition to open for him, we got into the grand

510
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 1: final and one of the girls came to the show

511
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 1: and she brought us this book all filled with beautiful

512
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 1: notes and photos from like all the chippies and all

513
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 1: the group. Well, so it was so amazing because sometimes

514
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,120
Speaker 1: I guess like especially with social media or if you're

515
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,480
Speaker 1: not playing shows, you don't really feel like you have

516
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 1: that connection with fans. And we more see them as

517
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 1: friends as well, because we all give them hugs and

518
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,159
Speaker 1: stuff and we see them and it's always just so

519
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 1: we were so glad when we see them at shows,

520
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 1: because like it can be very unfamiliar over in the

521
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,439
Speaker 1: UK and a country that we've never been to before,

522
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 1: so all like we have been but don't have many

523
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 1: friends and things like that. So when we see these

524
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,920
Speaker 1: guys come to our shows and out to like even

525
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 1: our Christmas shows, it's so special for us, and yeah,

526
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: just seeing them grow and support each other, and they've

527
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 1: even started some of their own social channels helping each

528
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 1: other out, and like they're all going through teenage issues

529
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,280
Speaker 1: which we've been through and still probably go through similar

530
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: kind of things. So I love like helping out with

531
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Speaker 1: advice and then they give each other advice and have

532
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Speaker 1: this great support system. So that's probably been one of

533
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 1: the most coolest and most probably special things about the group.

534
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: Like whether we go massive or not or just keep

535
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 1: doing what we're doing, I think like, yeah, if anything,

536
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,919
Speaker 1: we're just so happy and so proud of these girls

537
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: and yeah, glad that we can be an influence on

538
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: them as well. And they're like yeah, and it's they're

539
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 1: inspiring to us and make us keep going and we're

540
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: having those tough days as well.

541
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Speaker 3: So is it Did I see it correctly?

542
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Speaker 2: Did one of them get a tattoo of domain on them?

543
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 2: That I think I saw it one of your instant stories.

544
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, that's yeah, Yeah, that's so cool. Yeah,

545
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 1: Like I think I know there was one girl that

546
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: was gonna get one done and I think she did.

547
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah she did, Oh Charlie, Yeah, yeah from Germany. Yeah,

548
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 1: she's amazing. Yeah she got that done. Yeah that was Yeah.

549
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: I hope it was all right. I think we've sat

550
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: on that logo now so I think they're good. I

551
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: know we've gone through a few different texts.

552
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Speaker 3: On it, sisters.

553
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 2: At the end of it now, I felt the pressure

554
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 2: to keep it that. That's obviously an amazing supporter there.

555
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 2: But do you have any fans that have gone a

556
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: little bit too far? He stood itstalk affairs.

557
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: No, nothing that's made us uncomfortable. There's like, there's one

558
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: fella in Germany who's called sweat Span and his family,

559
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: so they were really die hard from the first moment

560
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 1: they saw us when we were like you now, Like

561
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 1: I think we were nineteen or twenty when we first

562
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: went to Germany and they came to the show, like

563
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: not knowing us at all, and this guy decided he's

564
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,959
Speaker 1: going to be out. Then he's been so amazing, Like

565
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: over the years, he gets a photo with us at

566
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Speaker 1: each gig, and then he'll get a T shirt printed

567
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: with each gig that he's been to, and every time

568
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: he comes to another gig, he'll add another date to

569
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: this T shirt or make more T shirts and recently

570
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: we're in Germany. He all gave us a T shirt

571
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 1: of each other because he's like, I always wear a

572
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: T shirt of you, So here's sorry, this is a

573
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 1: really bad accent, but here's.

574
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Speaker 3: A T shirt.

575
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 1: He's a T shirt of like you guys that you

576
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: can wear. And he knows that we're vegetarian vegan, especially

577
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: George's although to a lot, so he makes us these big,

578
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: beautiful cakes and muffins.

579
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll probably be listening to this as well.

580
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,239
Speaker 1: So, yeah, he's so lovely and they always help us

581
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: pack up and stuff. So it's cool having these people

582
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: all over the world that we've met prem MWS and yeah,

583
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: like we've just been so lucky and a lot of

584
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: people have been so generous as well, because it's definitely

585
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 1: an industry where it's got ups and downs financially and

586
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: just like the mental strain of it and sometimes not

587
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: always staying at hotels can be hard. So we've got

588
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: a lot of places that sorry, some lovely people that

589
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: have helped us out with accommodation or let us stay

590
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: in their homes and things like that to give us

591
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: more of that home family vibe. So there's a beautiful

592
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: couple in the UK that put us up for a

593
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: bit as well, and then a guy in Germany and

594
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Speaker 1: all over the place. So if anyone's listening, thank you

595
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: for that. So yeah, it's been great that home noiy

596
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: from home kind of thing.

597
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 2: We're talking about the fans. We do have some questions, Yeah,

598
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 2: the fans that they've sent in, So I think we'll

599
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 2: probably get to them because obviously they want these answered. Sure,

600
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 2: So one lovely fan wrote, what's your advice to keeping

601
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 2: anxiety onto control?

602
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I'm a huge suffer of anxiety. I

603
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: think I've been since a young child. Like I used

604
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: to hate performing and would always cry before going on

605
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 1: stage when I was a kid, which is quite strange

606
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: that I'm doing this now. I ever would have thought that.

607
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: But when TV, Yeah, I know it's so weird. I

608
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: think I always wanted to but I was just so

609
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: shy and stage fright. There's a video of me crying

610
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: in a cloud costume with a cloud makeup on, like

611
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: I was like happy the cloud, like writing off stage

612
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,720
Speaker 1: at ten years old. But yeah, I think like over

613
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: the years it's and it's something that everyone goes through.

614
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: But it's just about handling it, and I've just learned

615
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: it's about how you sort of control the situation yourself.

616
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: Like sometimes things are so out of your control you

617
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: can't do anything about it. But the best thing you

618
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: can do is sort of just think about things that

619
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: you can control and think about the emotions that you

620
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 1: can control. But yeah, like for me on tour, I

621
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: get extremely lonely. Like a lot of people, see, you're

622
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: so busy and you're always around people, but sometimes you

623
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: get home and you have no one to call, and

624
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: if you're not in a relationship, you don't have that

625
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: special person to you know, just have a chat to

626
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: which I absolutely love people how my day ors and things.

627
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: But if you don't have that, you can become extremely lonely.

628
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: But I think it's just sort of making you enough

629
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: and thinking of things that make you happy. So yeah,

630
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: I think, and just doing things that distract you. Like

631
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: for me, i'd go for a walk or like, because

632
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 1: I love photography, I'd go out and find something different.

633
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 1: To you just really immerse yourself in the different areas

634
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: that you're out. But yeah, I think, Yeah, anxiety is

635
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: a hard one because it's a different case. It's different

636
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 1: for everybody. But I think just taking big breaths and

637
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: just thinking what you can control, think of the good

638
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: things in your life, how happy and how lucky you are,

639
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: just to be alive and just to be able to

640
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: do what you do. And then also helping other people,

641
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: maybe talking to someone else that has anxiety, because I

642
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: think when you realize the more people that have it,

643
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: you can share your stories. You realize you're not alone

644
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: and everyone's got their problems. Like I remember reading something,

645
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: if everyone through their problems in a pile and saw

646
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: everyone else, they'd probably take theirs back because yeah, they

647
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, each to their own. So yeah, that's probably

648
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: my best advice.

649
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 2: And it's a hard one, isn't it though, because I

650
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Speaker 2: feel like so many people have anxiety or go through

651
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: anxious thoughts. Because even I'm always one of those people

652
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: who second guess everything I say, and when you've got

653
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: your sisters around.

654
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 3: You can be like, we was that all right that

655
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 3: I said that?

656
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: So I feel like everyone, knowing that so many people

657
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: go through it has to be some.

658
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: Kind of thought base. I suppose to tell.

659
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: A lot of people want to know when you're going

660
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 2: to be back touring in Scotland, and also when you're

661
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 2: coming to Switzerland.

662
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. Yeah, as soon as we can. I

663
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: think we definitely have a little headline show again at

664
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: the end of the year in Scotland. We had a

665
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: good year last year, so we'll be back there again,

666
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: which is going to give it a bit of time

667
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: as well for some new music and things, and same

668
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: with Switzerland. I think we'll be back doing the Coolest

669
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 1: Shoulder again, so I look forward to seeing everyone there.

670
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: This is a bit of a controversial question. Who's your

671
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: favorite sister? I don't know.

672
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's so hard because I love

673
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: both of them equally but in different ways. Clara is amazing.

674
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: She's the oldest, not very much, but she's sort of

675
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: the mediator and the calm one. I'll have to ask

676
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 1: you guys this question too, because I want to know

677
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 1: what the dynamics are and you guys. But yeah, Clara's

678
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: sort of the mediator and the calm one of the group,

679
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: and she's sort of if George and I have creative differences,

680
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: she usually thoughts of like, Okay, so you're thinking this

681
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: and you're thinking that, so why don't we do this?

682
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 1: So she's really good. But then Georgia is just so

683
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: ridiculously talented. I've never sort of met anyone. And I

684
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: don't know if it's biased because she's my sister, but

685
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: just the way she can play music without like reading

686
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: music and just pick things up and just play things.

687
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: You just ask her to play a song, she can

688
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: do that, and the songs she writes so clever and beautiful,

689
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: so which is one of the reasons why I think

690
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: I've stayed doing music, because it's so amazing working with

691
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: her and just being part of it all, and it's

692
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: quite special doing that. As sisters, She's gonna let things

693
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: are hilarious because I would never say this to her face.

694
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: Oh like I would. I would, but she'd also be like,

695
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: he I've got this on tape now when we're having fights.

696
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: But yeah, so she's Yeah, she's great, and she's she

697
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: works really really hard. So yeah, I love I think

698
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: I love both of them. And I've got another sister,

699
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: Beth as well, who was older, who hates I love Beth.

700
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: If you're live, I didn't know you had another.

701
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was blowing my mud.

702
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got us. There's six of us in the family.

703
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: So got Beth and Sam and then but she's got

704
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: two beautiful children, and yeah, I lived out on a

705
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: farm in South Australia with her lovely husband, so yeah,

706
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: but she's amazing as well, and Sam too, and then Charlie.

707
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: So it's a big group of us.

708
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: So you love them all I love yeah?

709
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well actually, who do you love more than your

710
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 2: sisters or Pasimo?

711
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: Your oh my gosh.

712
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: So we've had a few, yeah, a few people asking

713
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: this isn't just for me personally, because I also want

714
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: to know about pismo. But Ella has an amazing would

715
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: you call it a pet or a rescue possem?

716
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: So it's a rescue cost them from Fauna Rescue. So

717
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: when we had the Loverthaw bush fires, I think it

718
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: was she was blown out of her mother's pouch and

719
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: they couldn't find the mother and she was still too

720
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: young to be released, so I think she was she

721
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: needed like her four feeds a day. And when I

722
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: was actually doing totally wild, I did a story with

723
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: Bev Langley from Minton Farm who has a whole bunch

724
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: of possums, and she gave me a couple of rescues

725
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: and I read them and then really send back into

726
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: the wild because where I live up in the hills,

727
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: where my parents live, it's a great possum releasing place.

728
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: So she called me up when they recently had one

729
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: boardy and it was only one. So yeah, I've been

730
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: looking after her the last few months and she's so cute,

731
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: she's I've probably spoilt her a little bit, but I just, yeah,

732
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm starting to get her back into it's cooled in

733
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: I think it's called in Richmond, where they sort of

734
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: learn different skills they would in the wild. So I

735
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: put trees around like the curtains. This is I feel

736
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: like I'm going down a few cool points, but it's cool. Yeah,

737
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, she's she's awesome. Yeah, I just I was

738
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: just fed her some milk before I left. So yeah,

739
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: she's really sweet and cute. But yeah, she will have

740
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: to go back out because it's only fair for her

741
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: to be back in the wild. But yeah, I'm just

742
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: trying to get her prepped at the moment. So we're

743
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: in pre season for the while, and I'll be going

744
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: back overseas on two soon too, so she will need

745
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,239
Speaker 1: to But I think mums. I've been training mum how

746
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: to look after it too.

747
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, but she needs another mother she can always.

748
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,479
Speaker 1: Yes, no, she's really cute. We also have five rescue

749
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: Joey's as well from Fauna Rescue. They're a bit bigger

750
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: now too though, so my sister Georgia looks after them.

751
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, got a got a good connection with Fauna Rescue.

752
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: And we've just done our bush fire benefit, which you

753
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: guys are out, which was so cool to see and

754
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: be out to announce how much we raised soon but

755
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: a lot of that money will be going to Foreigner

756
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: Rescue on the CFS.

757
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, And it was a little bit awkward when

758
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 2: we did see some of the A f l.

759
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: W after that podcast.

760
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I know I felt like.

761
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: Did you come with a conclusion with what you guys

762
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: both prefer? No.

763
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: Our conclusion was I love the A f l W.

764
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 2: I just I just don't think it should be called

765
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 2: a f l M. That was my only But you

766
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 2: know what if.

767
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: Because I couldn't tell you guys have a voice, I

768
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: wasn't sure which one of you was the foreign against.

769
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 2: Kate was Kate was four, and so I seem to

770
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: be against So when we listened to it against just

771
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 2: against a changing the name. Yeah, yeah, they were so cool.

772
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: I wanted Aaron Phillips's shoes.

773
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: She's the best. They're the most awesome chicks we've been.

774
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: They've been so supportive of our band over the last

775
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: couple of years and come to our shows and we'll

776
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: come to the games and yeah, it's so cool seeing

777
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: these girls out there doing yeah, like the female footing.

778
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 3: And you played female football too.

779
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: I did play a couple of season. I actually flew

780
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: back from Ronan keating our last show with Rodan in

781
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: Germany a few years ago because it was our first

782
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: year in the Sorry that was my fault. It was

783
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: our first year at the Mount Lofty Devils in the

784
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: Adelaide Hills and we got into the grand final and

785
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: I was super jet lag. We ended up losing by

786
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: a point, which sucked, but like it was, I was

787
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: so into it. I remember like having my footy shorts

788
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: with me overseas and I'd wear them to bed and

789
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: I was all prepped. So yeah, I think it's so

790
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: cool and it's so awesome seeing so many girls out there, yeah,

791
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: killing it at sport and music and everything else as

792
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: well a lot of female leaders and you guys as well,

793
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: I think are so inspiring. To Like us girls were

794
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: listening to you overseas when we were on the road

795
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: and we just thought you were so hilarious and it's

796
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: just and like just so cool as well, like in

797
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: all the stories you guys do and the people you

798
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: talk to, I think.

799
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: Is so senior. Fifty dollars in the post.

800
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: It's dead set true though, and I think it's so inspiring,

801
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: so you guys going out and you know, inspiring other

802
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: women to start their own businesses and all that sort

803
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: of thing as well. So yeah, I'm a bit of

804
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: a fan girl. I was very nervous to do this

805
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: one today.

806
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: Ella's our second biggest band other than our mum.

807
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, oh no, I love it in the

808
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: show of the show, Oh no. Just in general, I'm

809
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: saving up for the Steppa machine at the gym because

810
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: it's never fun, but you got your podcast makes it fun,

811
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: so I will listen to that the gym later on.

812
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: Talking before kind of about the gender debate and equality, Yeah,

813
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: do you think that there are some challenges you guys

814
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: face being young females that maybe male performers don't face

815
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: in Europe or.

816
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: Australbe Sometimes I feel like it's almost been working. It's

817
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: been really good for us. I think there's no better

818
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: time at the moment to be a female in yeah,

819
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: in music, but just in anything. I think something we

820
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: always were really adamant about with our music and just

821
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: in general with ourselves was we don't want to be

822
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: just good for a girl. We want to be good,

823
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: which was actually a theme of a song that we're writing.

824
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: But we don't we I think like a lot of

825
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: people like, oh, you girls are good at guitar for girls,

826
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: like kind of thing and George used together and she's

827
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: an amazing guitarist. And I remember an old boyfriend of

828
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: mine was like, you don't want to be walking in

829
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: place and being like, oh, yeah, they're all right because

830
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: they're chicks, like that sounds decent. They want to just say, wow,

831
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,919
Speaker 1: these girls are really really good. And that was something

832
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: that always stuck with me that he said. So I

833
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: think that's been something that we've tried to We think

834
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: it's very important that everyone is equal, and like, you know,

835
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: no matter what it is with nominations with awards or

836
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: festival bills or anything, I think it's always good to

837
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: have the best people. And you know, it's great to

838
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: have a lot of diversity as well, like having girls

839
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: and guys, all girl bands or just boy bands. Like

840
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: I think it's so important to have lots of diversity,

841
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: but also have especially for things just as yourself, just

842
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 1: to be the best you can, no matter what your

843
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: gender is or your preferences or anything like that, because

844
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: I think that's sometimes we never want to be like

845
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: playing the female card on anything. We want people to

846
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: hear our music and it could be a guy thing

847
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: em though it was clearly very much a girl but

848
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: we just want to be on an equal playing fields.

849
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: But it's been amazing and there's a lot of great

850
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: support systems out there for women. I was at a

851
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: women's breakfast for music recently in Adelaide, and it was

852
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 1: so cool seeing all the support and the women coming together.

853
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: Can I think you guys have addressed it too. It's

854
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: about bringing girls up then you know, beating them down

855
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: or trying to compete against them, because we're all in

856
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: it together and we're all feeling the same thing. So

857
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: I think it's really important like supporting each other's each

858
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: girls as well, but also not defaming men either, because

859
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: there's a lot of great men out there as well

860
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: that have been supportive of us too, So I wouldn't

861
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 1: be fair for us to be like, screw the boys,

862
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: because you know, we've had both help, amazing help from

863
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: both girls and boys.

864
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 3: So it's so.

865
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: Good as well that you guys have that mentality because

866
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: I think that's so good for young women who listen

867
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: to your music and love you.

868
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 3: Guys to hear.

869
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: And it's crazy because it's funny when you're saying all

870
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: of those points. It made me really think because I

871
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 2: never think, oh, they're just on the festival because they're

872
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: a girl group. But I suppose one of those politics

873
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 2: do come into choosing.

874
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, we we didn't ever want to just be

875
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: selected because we're a girl band. Like obviously it's great

876
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: to have as many girls on the bill as possible

877
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,280
Speaker 1: because there's not that much representation of in some areas.

878
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 1: But we also didn't want to just be there because

879
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: we were girls. We wanted to be there because we

880
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: were good enough to be there and worked hard enough

881
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: and deserve to be there as well.

882
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 4: So yeah, And something that Taylor Swift Queen Amazing Yeah,

883
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 4: she touched on last year was the fact that as

884
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 4: she approached thirty, she felt like she was getting asked

885
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 4: a lot of questions that male artists perhaps wouldn't get.

886
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 1: For sure, you think.

887
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: That's something that happens with you guys. Obviously you're in

888
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: your twenties at the moment, but you feel that a

889
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: little bit.

890
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. I think we get a lot. We get

891
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: asked our age a lot, which is fine, but I've

892
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: never heard a boy band get us their age. A

893
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: lot of people ask about when you guys going to

894
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: stop and start thinking about having children, which I was like, well,

895
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: can't you do both? You know what I mean? Like

896
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: it's I was like, I don't know what I'd look

897
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: like with a pregnant pregnant base player, but with my

898
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: I've got a little hoffner now, so I can just

899
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: put that on top of it if that ended up happening.

900
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 2: But no, like your partner can stay at home and

901
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,760
Speaker 2: look after your baby as well.

902
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: Well, it works, And I've seen so many amazing couples

903
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: on the road do it, like you know, like Ronan

904
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: and his wife and she's she had a little baby

905
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: while he was on tour, and you know, obviously she

906
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: wasn't playing, but you know, you can if you've got

907
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: a supportive partner and like a supportive group around you.

908
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 1: You can do it. It's obviously going to be hard,

909
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: but I think like there's a lot of stereotypes of

910
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: what and like people like to sort of tell you

911
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: what you can and can't do, and when you're doing

912
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: something a little different, there are those times and people

913
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: like to sort of tell you, oh, no, you can't

914
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: do that, There's no way you can do that. When

915
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: when's this expiry day? Which is something that's always sort

916
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: of gotten under my skin a bit because I'm like, well,

917
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: why can't I do both? And why can't I do media?

918
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 1: And why can't I do music? And why can't I

919
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: do art? But also have a posim at home and

920
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: also like to you know, travel and do different things

921
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: as well. So I think it's just it's good this

922
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: day and age we live in. And I'm very very

923
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: fortunate and lucky, and I'm well aware of that as well,

924
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: that I've been lucky enough to be able to live lifestyle.

925
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: But and it wouldn't it wouldn't be as easy for

926
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: maybe someone else. But yeah, I think you've just got

927
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: to have that mentality that you can do anything you want.

928
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: You just figure out different ways to make your work

929
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: and be creative with it.

930
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: That's so true though that men do never get us,

931
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 2: Like can you imagine if Harry if they asked Harry styles. Okay, Harry,

932
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: so when are you having a kid and when is

933
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: your As a result of having.

934
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: Got a chairman man, that's like, first you told me

935
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: that I shouldn't be eating the cake that Spend bought

936
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: us because he's like, you need to watch your figure

937
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: as a woman, and I was just like, watch me

938
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: eat this cake. No, he was just joking around, but

939
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: I think they sort of there's sometimes that mentality with

940
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: a few people. And then he was also like, oh,

941
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: you know, like you're getting older, like your eggs are

942
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: going to start trying up. And I was like, and you, like,

943
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: I think saying that to a girl is quite is

944
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: quite rude. And it's also like it's like, who you

945
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: just say that to me about like my you know,

946
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: what's going on inside? Like you know, I just I

947
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: think that's quite a sensitive issue. And that's something in

948
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, as I've gotten into my

949
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: later twenties that people have sort of brought up about

950
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: like doing a travel thing. But I think you just

951
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: got to brush it off, and I've learned to deal

952
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: with that and just you know, not worry about what

953
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: other people think and just do my own thing for now, so.

954
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 2: That you're sharing it too, because I'm sure a lot

955
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: of people go through similar things, even in a different

956
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 2: career paths where there's a lot of judgment questions.

957
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 3: So mad that people can ask that kind of stuff.

958
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 2: I mean because we we had our mom on the

959
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 2: podcast for weeks talking about I love that episode.

960
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: I heard that that was the definite listen to them.

961
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: Actually, oh she was so cute, but you know you

962
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: talking about all the private questions people asked her. And

963
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: I feel like people think they can ask women anything,

964
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: like even being triplets, remember because people asked us if we.

965
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 3: Got our period at the same time.

966
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: I think we've asked that as the girls as well,

967
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 1: like if we're all grumpy that like obviously, like but yeah,

968
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: like the girls, Gewdre and Claire are very good and

969
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: they just brush it off as well, like I sometimes

970
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: might have a little hard cut back.

971
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 2: It's that casual sexism though. Yeah, it's everywhere.

972
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: It is, and you kind of just like sometimes you

973
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: just gotta like, yeah, cool, good on you. But then

974
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: other times like there's and I'm so defensive of like

975
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: if anyone says anything rudy to the girls or about

976
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: us as a group, and even like if they say

977
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: something to me, I'm quick to defense so quickly because yeah,

978
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: you just got to have each other's back, so that

979
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: sort of thing. And yeah, and I like sometimes you

980
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: get people from different you know, like they might have

981
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: been brought up differently, and some people can't help what

982
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: you know they've been brought up with or what sort

983
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: of morals they have been taught. But I think, yeah,

984
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: like I always try and be accepting from their eyes,

985
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: but also like you know, just sort of in a

986
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: polite way, just you know, oh yeah maybe this and

987
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: that or just brush it off kind of thing. But

988
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: each to their own how they want to handle those

989
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: kind of things. Yeah.

990
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 2: Well, just lastly to wrap this podcast, yes only because

991
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 2: we want to get into our next part. Hopefully you've

992
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: got time to do if everyone's listening. It's going to

993
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: be all about answering some dating questions, which I'm so

994
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: excited to do.

995
00:40:58,719 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: I have no idea if I'm any good at it.

996
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 3: No, I feel like.

997
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: You're going to be amazing, so The last question is

998
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 2: I suppose what can we expect from the Germains in

999
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty.

1000
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so at the moment, we're writing lots of songs.

1001
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: There's going to be a lot more songs about things

1002
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: that we're passionate about. We've always wrote about what we're

1003
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: passion about. I think this year as well as we've

1004
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: changed as well as people in the group, So new songs,

1005
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: I think, We've got more things happening overseas. We're still

1006
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: in our UK work visa, so we will be heading

1007
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: back over there. So touch good with everything with coronavirus

1008
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: and things like that's definitely put a bit of a

1009
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: spanner in the works, but it's all right. We've just

1010
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: go down. Like I said, you just be creative and

1011
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: find a different pathway and then but yeah, we will

1012
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: be heading back there for some tours and lots of

1013
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: festivals over some mysel If there's any UK or European

1014
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: people listening, yeah, I'd love to see. So make sure

1015
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: you head to Jermaine Sisters dot com or follow us

1016
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: on Instagram at Jermaine's Sisters, and yeah, listen to us

1017
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: on Spotify. Spotify streams are very good. It's good for

1018
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: supporting artists as well, and hopefully see you guys there.

1019
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: I feel like our listeners also need to check out

1020
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,760
Speaker 2: your art page because you're incredibly talented. SU four images

1021
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: of wildlife, a.

1022
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: Lot of portraits, yeah, and one. I think one week

1023
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: I had like four dash hoound commissions the sausage drugs,

1024
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: but they were cute.

1025
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be so when she gets her sausage

1026
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 2: been talking about. Thank you so much again, thank you

1027
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: for having me.

1028
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Speaker 1: It was really nice.