1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Joe White just in town for Fringe with his show 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Emotional Blackmail in Scarborough, Rockingham and the CBD between now 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: and February fifteen. Tickets are available through Fringe world dot 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: com dot you. 5 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 2: Good morning, Joe, Joe, Hello, thank you so much for 6 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 2: having me days. 7 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 3: You're very welcome Fringe time. Everyone's in town. 8 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us about your show briefly. 9 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: What it's about. 10 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 3: What an Emotional Blackmail is? 11 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 4: Well, it's it's me crying three am in the morning 12 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 4: because I've got a newborn in my hands. 13 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: Please go to sleep. 14 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot of emotions. Yeah. 15 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 4: Well it's a completely different title to my last year title, 16 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,279 Speaker 4: which was Ethiopian and Still not Hungry. 17 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: And I went, where do I go from here? 18 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 4: I went, Well, I am emotional and man, so emotional Blackmail. 19 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: Suits the card. I love a good play. 20 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 4: Yeah. 21 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: And it's the most personal show I've ever done. 22 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it just talks about, you know, going from 23 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 4: because of you guys, you know, as an Ethiopian man. 24 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: My real name is not Joe White, you know. 25 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, when you went back through the family tree and went, hey, 26 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: hang on. 27 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, my African parents didn't have me. Looks like Joe White. 28 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 4: Some people get surprised. They're like, what your that's not 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 4: your real name, and I'm like, no, I changed that. 30 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 4: They're like, well, why don't you change your middle name 31 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 4: to super and you can be Joe super White. And 32 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 4: I'm like no, no, So the show is really going 33 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 4: from my real name, which is alone is pronounced with 34 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 4: it noise you have to in Ethiopian alphabet. 35 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: We've got that noise. 36 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 4: That and I always tell people imagine the will of 37 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: Fortune in you know that game show where you yeah, yeah, 38 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 4: and then it's. 39 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 3: Like, I would like to guess It's an easy point 40 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: of reference to remember. 41 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like that, and so it's like I would 42 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 4: like to guess that, and what's the word you know? 43 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: Times? 44 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 4: So we were honestly the first bit boxer. That's what 45 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 4: I would like to say. But my real name is Talahorn. 46 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 4: But because you don't have the noise in the English alphabet, 47 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 4: you can pronounce it with a tear, so you can 48 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 4: say Tila Hornen. 49 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's my real name. 50 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 4: And you know, growing up in Australia from the age 51 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 4: of eleven, I was a very quiet, nervous, shy, just 52 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 4: worried that we won't get not to say the wrong 53 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 4: thing and not fit in and get set back home blended. 54 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: I wanted to blame you are Tillhorn. 55 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so when I told people my name was Tillohan, 56 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 4: the look on their face. 57 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: I was like, I got to do something. 58 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: About this shy, shy and retiring until he gets up 59 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: on stage, then it's a different story. 60 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 4: Well, now it's a different story now. And now as 61 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 4: an adult, you know you can't you can't shut me up, 62 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 4: you know. Well, in the beginning, I was very quiet. 63 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 4: So I got the nickname Joe. And then at twenty nine, 64 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 4: so I was Joe from fifteen all the way to 65 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,839 Speaker 4: twenty nine. And then at twenty nine I started doing 66 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 4: comedy and I went, how can I be extra funny? Yeah, 67 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 4: and so I added white And so I've been white 68 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: for ten years, and I've decided it's too hard. 69 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: For you at all. 70 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: It was it also because you were a bit concerned 71 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: about people not investing in you because they couldn't. 72 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: Everything. 73 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: Make him do it, educate them. 74 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, growing up, I didn't have the confidence to do so. 75 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 4: I just wanted to fit in. I just wanted to 76 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 4: be accepted. 77 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 78 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, when I went to school. I was the only 79 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 2: black guy in my year. 80 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 4: And so it's like, and you know, kids, kids at school, 81 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 4: if you don't accept the nickname, they'll give you one. 82 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you might as well get on the front foot. 83 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: You might as well choose one. I had a buddy 84 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: he didn't want a nickname. 85 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 4: His name was and everyone just called him Abka. 86 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: Like I was like, I'll take John, thank you. 87 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 4: So you know, I went above and beyond to try 88 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 4: and fit in into the Australian culture. And there's nothing 89 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 4: wrong with fitting in, but there's also like an unhealthy 90 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: amount of going, you know, above and beyond to try and. 91 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 2: Fitting to the point where you're not yourself, to the 92 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: point where you. 93 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 4: Give up your own identity, your heritage, your quality, your name, 94 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 4: you know, which denotes all of those things. 95 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: So and that's what I did. 96 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 4: And this show is about reclaiming my identity and going 97 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 4: back to my real name, Tila Hunt. 98 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: This is my last performance as Joe White. 99 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: Just having a new baby, who by the way, is 100 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: half ethy Open and half Maltese, must be I'm sure 101 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: you're biased, but she must be ridiculously gorgeous. I think, 102 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: I guess that makes you reassess things too, in terms 103 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: of well, I'm not Joe White, my new little baby, 104 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: I'm your dad, I'm Tihu. 105 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: You've butchered my name. 106 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 4: But everyone, you got it right, You got it right. 107 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 4: Mispronoun I apologize. How do I pronounce Lisa? You got 108 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 4: it right, just as the regular right. 109 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: And you're right. 110 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 4: She's half Maulty's half ETHYOPI so I own a little Malteser. 111 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 2: We love it a bit. 112 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 4: She's amazing, and you know I've been serious. I go 113 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 4: home and I give her just a big bite and 114 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 4: a kiss, and I just say, you taste like Maltita 115 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 4: and she's amazing, and you. 116 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 3: Know, enjoy that, well you can, because you won't be 117 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: able to do that for too much longer. 118 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they tell me, and I'm like, I don't know. 119 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: I just yea. 120 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 4: The first thing I do is just kiss and cuddle her. 121 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 4: She's just the best thing that's ever happened to me. 122 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: And you're right. 123 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 4: Having a kid does change your whole perspective online. And 124 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: you know, I want to teach her to be her 125 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 4: true self. I want to teach her to not change 126 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 4: who she is just to fit in, you know, And 127 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 4: a lot of the times like we think that's what 128 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 4: society wants, and we do it, and it's not your 129 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 4: true self, but what the society needs that a lot 130 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 4: of the time is your true self. 131 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: I think she's been born into a true self era. 132 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 4: So I think that thataken at the. 133 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: First show last night, everything gone well, ironed out the kinks, 134 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: so the rest of. 135 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 4: Us kick yes, right, I filmed that as well. Can 136 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 4: I tell you something that happened that last night shirt? 137 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 4: That was absolutely hilarious? Right? And this is just again 138 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 4: the extreme level I went to to fit into the 139 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 4: Australian way of life. 140 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 2: Right. 141 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 4: I got this guy up on stage is from Manchester 142 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 4: to try and pronounce Tila Hunt. 143 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: He was in struggling a bit, right, but he had 144 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 2: a shirt that said Ghetto Australia. 145 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 4: Oil and one of the punters heckled me and he goes, mate, 146 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 4: have you got a shirt like that? And I said, 147 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 4: I'll do you one better, and I showed him my 148 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 4: chest and I've got a Southern Cross tattoo on my chest. 149 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: A true story. 150 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 4: That's the extreme level I went to just to show 151 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 4: how much I love this country and threw it. 152 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 2: I'll put Land of Freedom because that's what it meant 153 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: to me. 154 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: All right, Well, the last people do to show how 155 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: much I love you is get your name right. 156 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: Now. 157 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can call me till the hunt. 158 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: Joe White emotional blackmail in Scarborough, Rockingham and in the 159 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 3: city center between now and the fifteenth Feb and Klamuanda. 160 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 3: He's getting around while he's still Joe White. 161 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 4: Yes. 162 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 3: Tickets are available through fringeworld dot com dot au