1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: This is a Will and Woody podcast Mini but when 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: you're in a rush. 3 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: A week ago, I called Paul, I called us Woods. 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: He said he'd been blamed for a crime ten years 5 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 2: ago at Uni. Ten years he'd naven been dragged through 6 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: the mud. He called us. He said, Will Woody, you're 7 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: the only guys who could possibly exonerate me. I want 8 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: my name clear. So we've taken on the case and 9 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: it is turned into one of the most outrageous affairs 10 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 2: we have ever taken on. 11 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: What is it. It's a few years ago. We were 12 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: at university, but I lived in a. 13 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 4: House with poor boys. 14 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 3: Because I'd have one night where we just lent loose. 15 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 3: We all have to have friends on campus, so we 16 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 3: all went to the different houses and the next day 17 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 3: of the story that someone had done it too in 18 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 3: one of the girls bathroom baths. I get accused of 19 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: being the mat tour. 20 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 5: You've been hit ber a fool criminal. 21 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: It's Will and Woodies who done it. 22 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: To classic per Dunnet Woods veverson there for a week now. 23 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: So if you're just getting up to speed with it, 24 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: I'm going to run through the people involved. Nice okay, 25 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: So if you're just joining us, fear not, Paolo. First 26 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: of all, I'll say there are two houses. There's the 27 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: boy's house and there's the girl's house. Okay, the pooh 28 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: was found on a bath mat in the girl's house. Okay, 29 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: the boy's house. 30 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 5: There's four boys. 31 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: Powlo he's our client, the one you just heard from. Yes, 32 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: he's the original suspect. He's looking to clear his name. Poss. 33 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: Poss led the investigation which originally accused Paolo of doing it, 34 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: and he was in the girl's house when it was found. 35 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 2: Did she is one of the boys who it appears 36 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: was lying about where he was that night. And Wax. 37 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 2: All we know about him is that he's a confident 38 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: outdoor poet, and we're going to hear more about him today. 39 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: He's the last person we need to speak to. In 40 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: the girl's house. You've got Prue, who's the owner of 41 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: the bath mat that was pooed on. And you've got Eve. 42 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: Eve was Poss's girlfriend at the time she found the 43 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: number two and she has since fled the country. 44 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 5: Bloody hell, William, So. 45 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: Just to go through it again, Paolo post dig and 46 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: Wax in the boy's house, and Pru and Eve in 47 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: the girl's house. 48 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 6: All right, Now we do have as you just described before, 49 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 6: the confident outdoor poor in Wax, who joins us on 50 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 6: the phone right now, Hello Wax, Hey. 51 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 5: Pretty good, thank you mate. 52 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 6: Now, first off, Whax, we have had three or four 53 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 6: separate people talk about your pin shant for doing two 54 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 6: z's in outdoor locations. Do you want to confirm or 55 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 6: deny whether that's a thing that you do? 56 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: Oh boy, you do it once and then you just 57 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 4: get a mark with this labels. 58 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 5: Ra Okay, So you're saying there was only one incident where. 59 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 4: There was literally one interment. But the thing is only 60 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 4: two people ever knew about that, so they've just spread 61 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 4: it around. 62 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 6: But okay, yeah, a bit raugh Okay, So what were 63 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 6: you doing on the night in question? 64 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 5: Then we know there was a party that occurred. 65 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 6: What were you doing between the hours of let's say 66 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 6: ten pm and seven am? 67 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, so the whole story, like it's what's been said 68 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 4: is pretty accurate. Like we've had that party and then me, 69 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 4: pass Bitch and Paul all gone and done separate kick 70 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 4: Like we're gone multiple activities after that, and we went 71 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 4: and like you know, flipped some couches like this other 72 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 4: other places, other places, and. 73 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 2: On the party finished and you passed dig and Paulo 74 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: you went rampaging through campus. 75 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, not ramp age. He just went to this one, 76 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 4: like the house that we had a few friends in there, 77 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 4: and just thought it'd be funny to like just flip 78 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 4: their couches. That a different house. 79 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: So we just went and flipped their couches and had 80 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: had a good time in there, just drinking their alcohol 81 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: and doing whatever we were doing exactly, just being general menaces. 82 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 4: And then so passes out the front and he was 83 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 4: keeping watch to see if anyone was coming around, and 84 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 4: myself and did were in there doing the doing the damage. 85 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 4: And then when I say doing that, judged me just you. 86 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: Know, couches and drinking their own Yeah, exactly. 87 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 4: Right, and go this time Paul, Paul was like about 88 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 4: to pass out. He is in the state. That's completely. 89 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 4: He wouldn't have been able to do a poop if 90 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 4: it was going to be a poot was going to 91 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 4: be wherever he was sleeping. 92 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 5: Wow, So give he was given. He was in that 93 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 5: state though, Wax. 94 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 6: Is it a chance though that he may have been 95 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 6: confused as to where the toilet was stumbled into the 96 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 6: girl's house and then done a number two on a 97 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 6: bathroom mate. 98 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 4: No, did did supervised him and like took him home. Okay, 99 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 4: So they disappeared for a period of time, probably fifteen 100 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 4: twenty minutes. Right by that point, me and Lucas. 101 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: Not loesus, you and pass he may have passed. 102 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 4: Just running around doing our own things, just us to, 103 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 4: just us to. So we went back to our house, 104 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 4: more dreams, give a few other things again being stuff, yes, exactly, 105 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 4: and then we met up with Didg again. 106 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 2: So it was so did just vanished. He took Paulo 107 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: home and then he vanished, Yeah. 108 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: And then he vanished. But it was taking Paulo home, Okay, 109 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 4: to his girlfriend's house, which was on the other side 110 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: of campus, so of a walk to get there and back, 111 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 4: and then he's come back. Wow. 112 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 2: Wow, I'm going to ask his question once. We're going 113 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 2: to go to a song, but I'm gonna ask his 114 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 2: question once, and we think long and hard about your answer. 115 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: You've got the clearest recount of events so far. 116 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 5: Who did it? 117 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 2: A week ago we were brought a cold case by 118 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 2: called Paulo. He said for ten years he'd been accused 119 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: of taking a two on a random girl's matt in 120 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: college and stayed with him for ten years. He wanted 121 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: to be exonerated when his name cleared after a week 122 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 2: of investigation, we are in where are after our eyeballs? Guys, 123 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: it's a pooh done it? 124 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: What is it? 125 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 5: It's a fool criminal. 126 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 4: It's dwelling bodies? 127 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: Who done it? Have you just joining us? Just a 128 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: reminder there are two houses involved here, the boy's house 129 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: and the girl's house. Head on to the podcast, Will 130 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: and would he click on the per don't link if 131 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: you want to catch up on this true crime or 132 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: per crime case. Paulo, the original suspect looking to clear 133 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,119 Speaker 2: his name. I think we're getting closer because it feels 134 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 2: like a lot of people are lying. We've got our 135 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 2: final suspect, the final and the fourth member of the 136 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 2: Boy's house on the phone right now. Wax Wax, welcome 137 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: back to the show. I asked you before, who do 138 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: you think did it? Who do you think did it? 139 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 4: It was either the cat or one of the girls. Cat, 140 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 4: that's not the boys? 141 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 6: Hang on whoa whoa cat? But it's been confirmed to 142 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 6: us through Eve that it couldn't have and pro actually 143 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 6: that it just couldn't have been a cat. 144 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 4: A cat might be one of the girls, because it's 145 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 4: definitely not one of the boys. Like, it just can't be. 146 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 5: One of the boys. 147 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 6: Can I ask you then, because one of the first 148 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 6: things that we heard about this whole thing was that yourself, Ditch, 149 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 6: and Pass all got together the day after the incident 150 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 6: and led what I'm seeing is a pretty quatitit a 151 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 6: bit of a witch hunt, and you all pointed the 152 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 6: finger at Paulo. But in your in your statement just then, 153 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 6: you said that during the night there was no chance 154 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 6: that Paulo could have possibly done it. 155 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 4: Look, he was taking home, so unless he came back 156 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: out and did a blood somewhere, I mean, it couldn't 157 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 4: have been him. I just know completely ensol because I 158 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 4: actually have an alibi, and all the boys can confirm is. 159 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: Your alibi, poss. 160 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 4: No, my alibi is a lady that I spent the 161 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 4: night with. 162 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: And so you flipped couches and then you went and 163 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 2: stayed with a lady. 164 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well she came and state at my place. 165 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: If you were in the home shots any way, shorts, mate, 166 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: it's really neither yea to be honest, So that's your alibi. 167 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: All right, we'll check that, mate, We will check that 168 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: Poss stayed in the girl's house. He was dating Eve. 169 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: Why is he not in the mix here? Why are 170 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: you clearing him so confidently? 171 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 4: It's just because he lived there all about third year. 172 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 4: He never came back to our house really unless he was. 173 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so he's in the place. 174 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 4: So he would he do it in his own house? 175 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: Did he not? Like Prue? Did he have a rift 176 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: with Prue? She owned the bath mat? 177 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's one way to get back missus. 178 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 4: I guess like I got yeah, mate, Like, I don't 179 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: think so. I just don't think it was one of 180 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 4: the boys. Okay. 181 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: We understand on the show yesterday, around the boys, it 182 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 2: does feel like this is bros. It does feel like 183 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: the boys are protecting the boys. 184 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 5: Wax. 185 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 6: We had Didg on the show yesterday and Did was 186 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 6: effectively saying that he wasn't there at the party. He 187 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 6: was away on the Central Coast, and he was confirming 188 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 6: that with us yesterday. Although you have just said that 189 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 6: Dig was definitely at the party because he was flicking 190 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 6: couches with you. 191 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 5: Why would DIDG lie to us? 192 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? I don't know. Maybe he's speaking of it for 193 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 4: a night, but he was definitely there. But I saw 194 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 4: him look in house. 195 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: Wax. I'm going to say the same thing. I'm going 196 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: to say the same thing to you that I said 197 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: to Poss and then I said to Ditch. You're lying. 198 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 4: You're lying. 199 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: You boys are lying, you are folding ranks. And I 200 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: get it, you're looking after each other. But none of 201 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 2: this is adding up. 202 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 6: Because because the house only twenty meters away from the 203 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 6: girl's house though, right, Wax. 204 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and in between that in between, so you've got 205 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 4: to go around another house and that house. I saw that. 206 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 4: That's the way it DIDs live. And I saw him 207 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 4: go into that house. 208 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: Because he doesn't have to come out of that house. 209 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 2: And when you say lucas him in pass, I'll correct 210 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: you again. All right, Wax, thanks for coming on the show. 211 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 2: We appreciate it. 212 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 5: We're going to check out your alibi. 213 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 2: By the way, we're going to we're going to frisk 214 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 2: you right now. Matt Preston is going to join us 215 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: right up next, guys Will and Woody on the podcast 216 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: Who Done It? The links are there if you want 217 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: to follow the case. Tomorrow. Doctor Luiz Marler, the Human 218 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 2: Light Detector comes on the show and we get to 219 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: the bottom of this. We're going to find out who 220 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: did it. They're lying, the boys lying, But but are. 221 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 5: They or the girls lying to us? I mean, hang 222 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 5: on a second. I he fled the country. 223 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 6: He fled the country, and she had she had holes 224 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 6: in her memory of finding it. 225 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 5: That is so sus to me. 226 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we'll figure it out tomorrow with doctor Luis Marle. 227 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 2: I make sure you're tuning in from Forgetting the podcast 228 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 2: more of the boys. 229 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 5: On the full show podcast. 230 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: You know you want to