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Speaker 1: This is jem Nation were Jones.

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Speaker 2: It's been a mixed response to the Duchess of Sussex,

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Speaker 2: Meghan Markle's new Spotify podcast. This is a podcast that

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Speaker 2: she was paid eighteen million dollars for for Spotify and

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Speaker 2: that people have been waiting to hear.

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Speaker 1: What's it going to be?

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Speaker 2: It is a podcast where she says, we investigate, dissect

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Speaker 2: and subvert the labels that try to hold women back,

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Speaker 2: and episode one she talks to Serena Williams about the

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Speaker 2: double standard that women face when they're labeled ambitious as

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Speaker 2: opposed to how men are labeled when they're ambitious. If

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Speaker 2: you're not a fan of Megan Markle, you're going to

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Speaker 2: be able to cherry pick things in here that you're

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Speaker 2: not going to like. When you're looking for that, you'll

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Speaker 2: absolutely find it. If you're looking for stuff to support

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Speaker 2: the met the woman you like, then you'll see lots

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Speaker 2: of that in there as well. Here's a bit Serena

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Speaker 2: was talking about. She played and won the twenty eighteen

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Speaker 2: French Open on just thirty minutes sleep when her daughter

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Speaker 2: Olympia broke her wrist. The night before she went to

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Speaker 2: the hospital with her child, she held her all not

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Speaker 2: had thirty minutes sleep and went out and played that match,

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Speaker 2: and that spued megan to share this information.

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Speaker 3: When we went on our tour to South Africa, we

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Speaker 3: landed with Archie. Archie was what four and a half

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Speaker 3: months old, and the moment we landed, we had to

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Speaker 3: drop him off at this housing unit that they had

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Speaker 3: had to staying in.

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Speaker 1: He was going to get ready to go down for

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Speaker 1: his nap.

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Speaker 3: We immediately went to an official engagement in this township

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Speaker 3: called Nianga, and there was this moment where I'm standing

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Speaker 3: on a tree stump and I'm giving this speech to

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Speaker 3: women and girls. And we finished the engagement. We get

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Speaker 3: in the car and they say there's been a fire

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Speaker 3: at the residence. There's been a fire in the baby's room.

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Speaker 1: What God, I can't believe. We haven't talked about this.

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Speaker 1: And so we're in the car. We had just landed.

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Speaker 3: We'd just landed at what an hour or two hours

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Speaker 3: before racing back. We get back our amazing nanny, Lauren,

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Speaker 3: who we'd had all the way until in Canada.

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Speaker 1: Here Lauren in floods of tears.

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Speaker 3: She was supposed to put Archie down for his nap

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Speaker 3: and she just said, you know what, let me just

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Speaker 3: go and get a snack downstairs. And Laura's from Zimbabwe,

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Speaker 3: and we loved that she would always tie him on

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Speaker 3: her back with a mudcloth, and her instinct was just like,

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Speaker 3: let me just bring him with me before I put

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Speaker 3: him down. In that amount of time that she went downstairs,

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Speaker 3: the heater in the nursery caught on fire. There was

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Speaker 3: no smoke detector. Someone happened to just smell smoke down

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Speaker 3: the hallway when in fire extinguished. He was supposed to

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Speaker 3: be sleeping in there. And we came back and of course,

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Speaker 3: as a mother, you go, oh my god, what everyone's

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Speaker 3: in tears, everyone's shaken, and what did we have to do?

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Speaker 3: Go out and do another official engagement? I said, this

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Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2: This seems to be the bit that has upset people

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Speaker 2: that she didn't understand the role of what being a

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Speaker 2: royal was. It's not being a celebrity. It's not just

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Speaker 2: standing on a stump talking to women and girls, and

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Speaker 2: they're the events you like. As a working royal, there's

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Speaker 2: a whole lot of stuff you have.

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Speaker 1: To do step stoic duty.

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Speaker 2: And service, and maybe they're writing calling out that duty

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Speaker 2: and service shouldn't come first, but as a royal it has,

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Speaker 2: and it does and it will. You can't quite quit

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Speaker 2: being a Royal's right, that's right?

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Speaker 1: Quite quitting?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's what they wanted to do, was to cherry

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Speaker 2: pick the bits they wanted, and the Queen said you.

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Speaker 1: Can't do that.

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Speaker 2: So the response has been some women saying good on her.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate all she's done. I really like this podcast

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Speaker 2: from a female perspective. Guys it seem are saying she's

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Speaker 2: a bigger self publicist in the world. She's supposed to

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Speaker 2: be intoing Serena Williams, and she made it all about herself,

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Speaker 2: and that she only worked seventy two days in her

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Speaker 2: royal duties but she works three and sixty five days

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Speaker 2: on self promotion and damasging the institution of the monarchy.

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Speaker 2: I'm all for whatever they want to do, but don't

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Speaker 2: diss the royals on the way through, you know.

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Speaker 3: Slag the royal.

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Speaker 1: Don't slag the royals.

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Speaker 2: Leave the royal family if you want to, but leave

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Speaker 2: the royals alone. So anyway, I've interested to know what

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Speaker 2: you think. This has just dropped in the last day

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Speaker 2: or so. Meghan's new podcast.

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Speaker 1: I know my wife was swearing at the TV whenever

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Speaker 1: she comes on. So she likes a big fan. She's

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Speaker 1: got a big fans. She's got an opinion about Meghan