WEBVTT - Kate Langbroek: MY MUM, YOUR DAD - PRESENTER

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news today, but it was actually on

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<v Speaker 1>TV Reload the podcast and last weep theirline welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>guys to TV Reload. My name is Benjamin Norris and

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<v Speaker 1>on this podcast I go behind the scenes with the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest players in television. Each episode you will get a

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<v Speaker 1>front row seat with content makers like executive producers, writers,

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<v Speaker 1>editors and casting agents, plus the talent that we see

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<v Speaker 1>on our screens. TV Reload reloads the shows that you

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<v Speaker 1>are currently watching and gives you a better insight into

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<v Speaker 1>our television industry and our streaming services today. On the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>I have Australian Entertainment Royalty Kate Lambrook, who after decades

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<v Speaker 1>of radio, has made a big move to television. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen her on The Project, the Panel and of

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<v Speaker 1>course shows like have You Been Paying Attention, But we've

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<v Speaker 1>never seen Kate like this. The show is brand new

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<v Speaker 1>for Channel nine. It's called My Mum Your Dad and

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<v Speaker 1>it is the latest reality TV show that is a

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<v Speaker 1>surefire hit. The premise is interesting single parents being inspired

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<v Speaker 1>on by their children as they go no one dates

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<v Speaker 1>with other single parents. Yes, it is very juicy. The

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<v Speaker 1>show is addictive and I think we will be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it for years. ITV Studios is seriously kicking some goals,

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<v Speaker 1>and Kate is an interesting choice for the show, but

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<v Speaker 1>it totally works. I'm sorry, full disclosure, I'm a big

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<v Speaker 1>Kate Lambrook fan, and I really throw away the script

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<v Speaker 1>and I get to have a good yarn with someone

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<v Speaker 1>who I've really looked up to for a very long time,

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<v Speaker 1>which for me is a career highlight. We will talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Hughesy and if she misses him, we unpack her

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<v Speaker 1>hesitancy to take on this role in reality TV. And

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<v Speaker 1>I also really wanted to know what Kate watches at home.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there is plenty more from a wise woman with

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<v Speaker 1>a great sense of humor. However, let's get started with

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<v Speaker 1>today's guest. I'd like to welcome Kate Lambrook to TV Reload.

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<v Speaker 2>Straightaway. When I watched it, I went, this is amazing,

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<v Speaker 2>open your ears to a whole world. Was more surprised

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<v Speaker 2>than me when I ended up posting this show.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love for Dad to find that special someone

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<v Speaker 1>love you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's reality, so it's got to have a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of you know, it's got to have a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of a saucy seasoning. They have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's really bringing their hearts together. I was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>I am here for it. I was crying with them,

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<v Speaker 2>I was laughing with them. Kate Lanbrook presents my mom,

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<v Speaker 2>your dad. The kids know their parents in some cases

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<v Speaker 2>better than the parents know themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Kate, thank you for lending your beautiful and infectious

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<v Speaker 1>personality to my podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh been imagine if I'm just a massive downer through

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<v Speaker 2>the whole, I'd be like, Hi, Ben, this is not

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<v Speaker 2>a good time for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Still be good, Like I I just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think back to my journey of my love of you,

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<v Speaker 1>listening to you on radio before than the panel, like

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I just think that you have a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a gift with your humor, and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a surprise to me to see you on this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a reality show, but I'm here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a surprise, isn't it. Well, I do, like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I sort of the last the last few years, really,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I've been on for doing things that are

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<v Speaker 2>a bit different, like starting I guess with moving to Italy.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that kind of and when I stopped doing

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<v Speaker 2>the show with Hughsey, which was a very hard decision

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<v Speaker 2>to make. I kind of wanted to do things that

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<v Speaker 2>were probably more difficult for me to do, whereas doing

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<v Speaker 2>the show with him was just so easy, and he

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<v Speaker 2>would always go, not even a job, doesn't feel like

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<v Speaker 2>a job. But then I do like to hold my

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<v Speaker 2>book up to him and go, which I have a

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<v Speaker 2>copy here of. And this is what I say to

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<v Speaker 2>Hughsey when I see him. I go, see this, Hughsey,

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred and sixty pages or whatever. That's what two

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<v Speaker 2>years of not working with you looks like. But this

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<v Speaker 2>is me, Yeah, this is me, right, this is mine.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's like, I know, I know, I've always said

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<v Speaker 2>you're a superstar alway, but yes, it's been really good.

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<v Speaker 2>And no one was more surprised than me when I

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<v Speaker 2>ended up hosting this show.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what's interesting to me was that I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to a PDA at one of the radio stations at

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<v Speaker 1>the a PD that you must have had the radio station,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're talking about relationships with people on radio, and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I've been working on radio. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>said like thirty or forty years. He looked old, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming it was thirty forty years in the radio industry.

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<v Speaker 1>In Australia. The only two co hosts that actually like

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<v Speaker 1>each other and get along off the radio and on

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<v Speaker 1>the radio and everything is Husy and Kate. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anyone else.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we have always had a well not always early

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<v Speaker 2>on we had we had to sort of, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>knock the edges off our stones by letting the river

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<v Speaker 2>of time and understanding flow off it over us, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>But we have a genuine love and regard for each

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<v Speaker 2>other that is undiminish. And well now when we talk

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<v Speaker 2>to each other, which we do all the time, we

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<v Speaker 2>just I just love talking to him and I do

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<v Speaker 2>miss the I miss seeing him every day and talking

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<v Speaker 2>to him, but I don't miss having to be somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>every day, do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely? Absolutely, I mean, but how pomped are you to

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<v Speaker 1>be back on TV in such a big, glossy show.

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<v Speaker 2>It has been such a beautiful experience that I am

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<v Speaker 2>pinching myself over it because I've I normally say no

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<v Speaker 2>to things I've said I've say no to. That was

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<v Speaker 2>always the joke with me and Husy that Husy can't

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<v Speaker 2>say no to to work, and he's a workaholic. And

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say yes to work yet. That when I

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<v Speaker 2>saw the initial premise for this show, I loved it

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<v Speaker 2>so much that within a couple of days it was

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<v Speaker 2>done that I was hosting it. Wow, and girlfriend Georgie Harrop,

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<v Speaker 2>who you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I love her. I'm upseessed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love love, love, love love love. And she's

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<v Speaker 2>so brilliant. She's so brilliant, and she keeps saying to me,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a U show, this is a U show.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, and her best at I've got

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<v Speaker 2>a book, I'm going to the Sydney Ritis Festival, you know, blah.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was just busy. I said, I know, it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds ridiculous. I don't have time to watch anything. She's like,

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<v Speaker 2>just please watch it. I think it's you. I think

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<v Speaker 2>you'd love it. And straight away when I watched it,

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<v Speaker 2>I went, this is amazing. It's amazing. I'd love to

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<v Speaker 2>be a part of it. If anyone's going to drive

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<v Speaker 2>it into the ditch, it's going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Me and do it proudly. But I think, my mum,

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<v Speaker 1>your dad, this show is great to see you because

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<v Speaker 1>it is a vehicle that I think does work for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've watched the first few episodes, and you're really

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<v Speaker 1>good in this, and you're good in the way that

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<v Speaker 1>it needs it needs to fly. You're a real person

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<v Speaker 1>who's it an EmPATH. I think that's the right way

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<v Speaker 1>to say it. So you can see you connecting to

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<v Speaker 1>these people who are going on this journey. You're willing

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<v Speaker 1>to go on it with them.

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<v Speaker 2>I leanin so hard I nearly fell over. I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, I am here for it. I was crying

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<v Speaker 2>with them, I was laughing with them. I just really

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<v Speaker 2>wanted it to work for them. I wanted it to

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<v Speaker 2>work because I just think if you have love and

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<v Speaker 2>then you meet someone who wants love but doesn't have love,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the power of it, and it's easy to

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<v Speaker 2>take it for granted. I think, until you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>it and then when you see Not that I'm ruining

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<v Speaker 2>what happens in the show, but just if we were

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<v Speaker 2>to imagine that it were to work and people on

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<v Speaker 2>the show were to fall in love, you see how

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<v Speaker 2>it brings a personal life. You know, It's like when

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<v Speaker 2>you pick up a stone and run it underwater, how

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly you can see all the glitter in it. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what love does to someone. It moistens the rock.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and what a joy to watch it up front.

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<v Speaker 1>But I kept thinking to myself, were you it's Caate Lambrook?

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<v Speaker 1>Is she a big fan of reality shows? Does she

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<v Speaker 1>watch reality shows?

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<v Speaker 2>I love reality, but I don't get time to watch

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of it. And also Peter, who was hooking

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<v Speaker 2>me up. Peter's one of those let's watch a documentary

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<v Speaker 2>about World War Two. He's one of those people you

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<v Speaker 2>know he reads biography, he reads classic novels like he's

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<v Speaker 2>an elevated good person, whereas I'm a base person who

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<v Speaker 2>would love to just wagdhe knee deep in rotten old

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<v Speaker 2>housewives from every state of America if I could. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have the time, although I did. Pet remember

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<v Speaker 2>when we watched a bit of Ninety Day Fiance together

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<v Speaker 2>and you quite like that? Didn't you remember that they

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<v Speaker 2>were in the you know, the Mormons, the Mormon guy

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<v Speaker 2>who fell in love with the South American girl and

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<v Speaker 2>she was just totally taking from Yeah, you quite like that,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't you. Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>See, it doesn't happen opted in my house as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Like my partner, he wants to watch a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>horror stuff, like he'll be watching the jefferent. Oh no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that Peter would be like, let's watch this documentary

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<v Speaker 2>bookpo Yes, Peter's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like hanging, said Peter, do you know what I really like?

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<v Speaker 1>And I've just gotten into it recently, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>so daggy. I was really hungover and Ben was my

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<v Speaker 1>partner's Ben. He was away and I watched like three

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<v Speaker 1>Titanic documentaries, like not not documentaries about you know, James

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<v Speaker 1>Cameron's Titanic.

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<v Speaker 2>But actually no, no about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I was, I'd gone down the rabbit hole. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm a doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>Why were you watching three? Were you hoping for a

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<v Speaker 2>different ending to watch three? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>No, they were all good because they are like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the secrets of what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would like to say that actually you'd like that,

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't right? You're singing from his songbook.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to watch it. It's on YouTube. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even think you need to find it on even on

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<v Speaker 1>a streaming platform.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've watched so much cycling. Peter's a cyclist, so

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<v Speaker 2>we watch the Tour France, we watch the Giroditalia, we

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<v Speaker 2>watch the Welter in Spain. But he won't even give me.

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<v Speaker 2>He won't watch the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills with me.

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<v Speaker 1>How is he supposed to know that Kathy Hilton and

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<v Speaker 1>Lisa Rinna and this fight and who's right and who's wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't know, and I have to hear it vicariously

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<v Speaker 2>through other girlfriends of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>In my mind, I believe that you're Lisa in a

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<v Speaker 1>fan Kate. So I'm just going to run with that. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting off Lisa.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing Lisa Renna lips for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Very convincing, but also good that they go back to

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<v Speaker 1>normal Kate Lambrouck lips, because those lips are white, scary

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<v Speaker 1>on her.

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<v Speaker 2>My thin, cruel Dutch lips.

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<v Speaker 1>It is all good, but we are going off on

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<v Speaker 1>a tangent because we're now talking about Titanic and that's

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<v Speaker 1>not what people have. That's not what you know what.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't crash into an iceberg on my mum and

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<v Speaker 2>your dad. Well, you could, some people, some people might.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd go to ship. Did you have any hesitations on

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<v Speaker 1>signing up for a show, And you know that's in

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<v Speaker 1>a space which there is so much room for drama.

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<v Speaker 2>I had I had a meeting with the executive from

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<v Speaker 2>nine and ITV who made the show for nine, and

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<v Speaker 2>when I spoke with them, I just trusted them. I

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<v Speaker 2>really trusted them, which is a crazy thing to say,

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<v Speaker 2>because who in showb is, you know, would trust a producer.

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<v Speaker 2>And yet I was right. And Chloe, who produces this show,

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<v Speaker 2>was just incredible in terms of the thought, the sensibility,

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<v Speaker 2>the her genuine desire for it to be right and

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<v Speaker 2>not to be I mean, it obviously has that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's reality, so it's got to have a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of you know, it's got to have a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a saucy seasoning. But the heart of it was

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<v Speaker 2>what they all spoke about and was what I responded

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<v Speaker 2>to from the start because I loved love and I

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<v Speaker 2>love a fairy tale and they couldn't have it couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have been better. It could not have been better. And

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<v Speaker 2>they were across everything, and they know how to make reality,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and Channel nine makes the best reality shows.

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<v Speaker 1>So they really do it. Like Adrian Swift to Channel nine,

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<v Speaker 1>he is so lovely and so amazing. He gets it.

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<v Speaker 1>David Moss from Mardi from ITV Studios.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets well, I used to work with Modi at

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<v Speaker 2>Channel teen. So in one of my first, one of

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<v Speaker 2>my first zooms, it was with him. So that was great.

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<v Speaker 2>And he knows me because he knows me from way

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<v Speaker 2>back when he would know what would suit me and

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<v Speaker 2>what didn't you know? Absolutely, And I was a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit cautious at first, but not after that first conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had no At no point was there was

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<v Speaker 2>I like, oh my goodness, this is you know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>been sold a pig in a pope. It was just

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<v Speaker 2>like they were true to their intention, what their stated intention.

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<v Speaker 1>I just pictured you at some point when the show

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<v Speaker 1>came across your desk being like, I don't know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my interpretation of who you are as a person.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'd be like, I can't imagine Kate Lambrok wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to do this show if it's going to be gratuitously salacious,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, if it was going to be grotty

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<v Speaker 1>reality television. Do you know what I mean? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. Yeah, you're right, because you know I am

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<v Speaker 2>a bit prudish, so I don't want things to be Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like you said, gratuitously, although I love it Ntandre, so

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<v Speaker 2>make sense of that if you will, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want I didn't want people to be demean or. I

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<v Speaker 2>just couldn't be that for them, or for men, or

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<v Speaker 2>for anyone in the room really, But it doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>that spirit at all. And I mean in these moments

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<v Speaker 2>of cringe, of course, because the kids are watching their

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<v Speaker 2>parents kiss. Can you imagine?

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what's cius about this, don't you reckon? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, is there anything brutal than your own children

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to recoupling? I mean, yes, why this

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<v Speaker 1>show is so amazing because you know, I talk about

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<v Speaker 1>this with my This subject matter is something I talk

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<v Speaker 1>about with my girlfriends and my friends all the time

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<v Speaker 1>about what our parents are like in their second or

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<v Speaker 1>third relationship. And it is que, you know, it is,

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<v Speaker 1>And the kids are the ones that have the most

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<v Speaker 1>amount to say about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the kids actually controlling the direction and getting

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of influence over the path that their parents'

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<v Speaker 2>love life is going to take is actually really clever

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<v Speaker 2>because what you find out from this show is the

0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:57.320
<v Speaker 2>kids know their parents in some cases better than the

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<v Speaker 2>parents know themselves. And that, for me as a parent,

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<v Speaker 2>was really gave me pause for thought, really, because we're

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<v Speaker 2>so focused on. You know, I have four of them,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's it's a lot of sacrifice to do it well.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not a Showbi's mum, as in, I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>proper mother and Petter is a proper father. We are

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<v Speaker 2>hands on and we do what we believe needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be done to the best of our ability and given

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<v Speaker 2>our time for the children. And that does mean sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 2>So getting single parents kind of means double that really.

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<v Speaker 2>But you're so focused on the kids and what they

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<v Speaker 2>need that you don't realize that the kids the whole time,

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<v Speaker 2>their whole life, are looking at you. They see you

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<v Speaker 2>so clearly. Even the bit you've tried to edit from yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>you've tried to sanitize parts of yourself, you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>totally know it. And so these kids they didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to watch their parents. You know, they could opt out

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<v Speaker 2>from the room or I don't mean they had to

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<v Speaker 2>leave the show, but they just didn't have to see

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<v Speaker 2>anything that they weren't comfortable with. But they were like,

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<v Speaker 2>we're here for this sort of sometimes through you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Pete Fingers.

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<v Speaker 1>But of course, of course I was at the Channel

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<v Speaker 1>nine brunch that they did after the logis earlier. This

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<v Speaker 1>year where we got to see the first glimpse of this,

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<v Speaker 1>and straight away I was like, ah, I was like everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>so many people have been in these scenarios, like so many.

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<v Speaker 1>This is opening up conversation. It's opening up and ability

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<v Speaker 1>for parents to think about what their children really think

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<v Speaker 1>of them. And that's a good conversation to have, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And also I just love the selflessness of the kids

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<v Speaker 2>being the one saying I want this for you. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't have this aspect of yourself, of your life, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's a big hole here in that would be filled

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<v Speaker 2>by romance and you don't have it. I want it

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<v Speaker 2>for you. But that's just so nice because it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to make the kids' lives complicated too.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely it does. It does in the real world. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>parent's recovered, it's going to be complicated and it's always

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<v Speaker 1>going to be drama and a lot of emotions involved,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because there's a lot going on. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you would know this yourself with the fact that you're

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship that's been going for how long now,

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<v Speaker 1>like how long have you two been together for?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it only feel is that six months? But it's

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<v Speaker 2>twenty something.

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<v Speaker 1>Years, isn't that amazing though. I mean I've been with

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<v Speaker 1>my partner now for thirteen years, and in gay years,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a hundred years.

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<v Speaker 2>So really, yes, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just think it's this is why for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were really good for this show, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I am not all what it was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>and get to know what the concept is. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think you being in a successful relationship for this long

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<v Speaker 1>and being a mother who understands being a mum and

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<v Speaker 1>being in tune with these children gives you an understanding

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<v Speaker 1>and the ability to stand there and be confident about

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<v Speaker 1>what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's so funny you say that because I

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<v Speaker 2>say to my girlfriends all the time, like single girlfriends

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, and they're always like, I was talking to

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah about it. I'm like, do you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want really to have a relationship that works,

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<v Speaker 2>why don't you talk to someone who's in a relationship

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<v Speaker 2>that works. Why are you talking to your other single girlfriends.

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<v Speaker 1>Over two bottles of white wine?

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know she's single. She doesn't know either. But then,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know that thing that we do as humans,

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<v Speaker 2>we like to look in a mirror of us. No

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<v Speaker 2>one wants to look at some tired fucking mother of

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<v Speaker 2>four who's been with her partner for twenty three years

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever. That's not exciting. What's exciting is to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to your single girlfriend. He goes, don't date him. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't like his shoes. See how that's working out for you? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, girls, we do this thing to each other

0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:46.919
<v Speaker 2>where we will we'll focus on what we don't like

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<v Speaker 2>about a guy, whereas I'm like, we just look hollowed foundations.

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<v Speaker 2>Why would he have nice shoes. He's a single guy

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<v Speaker 2>and he's not gay. I know you're nice shoes. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? For a renovator's delight? If

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<v Speaker 2>you want to get into you know, some DIY. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not into DIY myself. I like to find a fully

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<v Speaker 2>formed person and fall in love with them. But I

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<v Speaker 2>understand that that's rare.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's values like when people ask me how

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in a successful relationship and I'm like, oh am,

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, because there's obviously the hurdles that comes

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<v Speaker 1>with it, but it's compromised.

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<v Speaker 2>But you need to have and also you don't I'm

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<v Speaker 2>always loath to be the person to be Tom Cruise

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<v Speaker 2>jumping on Oprah's couch, because we know how that ends.

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<v Speaker 1>It. Scared if I do mattter like Ben and I

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<v Speaker 1>got engaged and I proposed him my national television when

0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:37.679
<v Speaker 1>I won Big Brother, and then people asked me for

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<v Speaker 1>ages Woman's Day, want to buy a story and sell

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<v Speaker 1>the pictures of this wedding, and I started. As the

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<v Speaker 1>years went on, I thought, I'm scared if I get

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<v Speaker 1>married to him, you know, could it all fall down?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>But we all know people who have got married and

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<v Speaker 2>then the relationships ended.

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<v Speaker 1>Boom. I've got two of my best girlfriends, two of

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<v Speaker 1>them they both married and divorced in the same year.

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<v Speaker 2>And Irish twin Peter and I was five months pregnant

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<v Speaker 2>when we got married. All this sounds like a recipe

0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:09.520
<v Speaker 2>for success, doesn't it. And I lived with my girlfriend

0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:12.280
<v Speaker 2>Mish till I was five months pregnant. I said to Peter,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not living with you before we get married, because

0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:18.359
<v Speaker 2>I'd lived with someone before. And I was like, you

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<v Speaker 2>get all the downside and no upside, Like it's as

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<v Speaker 2>traumatic as being married. So I said, the next person

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<v Speaker 2>I live with it will be because I love them

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<v Speaker 2>enough to marry them. We didn't live together till after

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<v Speaker 2>our wedding and when I was five months pregnant, and

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<v Speaker 2>then four months later we had our first baby, and

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<v Speaker 2>then within six years we had four babies.

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<v Speaker 1>So good though, like but obviously you've had to have

0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:47.800
<v Speaker 1>nurtured that, you've had to have respected that hour between

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<v Speaker 1>the two of you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not There's a lot to be said for making

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<v Speaker 2>a good choice, which you do not know that you've

0:20:56.480 --> 0:21:00.320
<v Speaker 2>made until you encounter. If you live long enough, life's

0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:02.840
<v Speaker 2>going to just smack you across the face with a

0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:06.720
<v Speaker 2>wet fish and you don't know till that happens what

0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:10.080
<v Speaker 2>the person that you've chosen to spend your life with

0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:13.760
<v Speaker 2>is made of. And luckily, Peter Lewis is just like

0:21:14.200 --> 0:21:16.719
<v Speaker 2>a piece of gold. He's just beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you get a piece of God, you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to look after it, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I had it, I hadn't be Where would you

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<v Speaker 2>hide your most valuable possession.

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<v Speaker 1>I just tell him, you can't leave the house in

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<v Speaker 1>case you meet someone else. No, I just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that he's a different person to the person

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<v Speaker 1>I got together with, But we have interesting we have

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<v Speaker 1>similar values. We have very strong relationships with our mothers,

0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:44.960
<v Speaker 1>and our family are our siblings. So family is important, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, funny you say that because Peter has a

0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.359
<v Speaker 2>great relationship with his mother, who I also adore my

0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:54.320
<v Speaker 2>mother in law, and I would say, look for someone

0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:57.280
<v Speaker 2>who's got a great relationship with their mother, not a

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<v Speaker 2>mummy's boy or whatever, just a toxic relationship, just a

0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:07.160
<v Speaker 2>genuine love and respect, because that is that's who you'll

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<v Speaker 2>be when when you become the wife and you become

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<v Speaker 2>the mother.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of other things can be different. Sure, I

0:22:13.160 --> 0:22:14.840
<v Speaker 1>don't watch the same shows as him, and thank god

0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:19.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't watch that fucking Jeffrey darmocrab. But he can

0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:22.159
<v Speaker 1>be his own person as well, Like I don't make

0:22:22.280 --> 0:22:25.240
<v Speaker 1>him want to be me. I want him to be himself,

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<v Speaker 1>and I champion him to be that version of himself.

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<v Speaker 1>So that way we're not the same person either, and

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<v Speaker 1>it makes it interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I always find it funny when couples get together and

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, I hated his grand couch, so I made

0:22:40.960 --> 0:22:45.080
<v Speaker 2>him throw it out, And I'm always like, why why

0:22:45.080 --> 0:22:45.920
<v Speaker 2>did you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you trying to change this person?

0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:51.840
<v Speaker 2>He must well, I understand, but then but then conversing,

0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:54.199
<v Speaker 2>I think they're a mean I'm only speaking about it

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<v Speaker 2>from the women's point of view because I'm a woman,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think they are men also who into that?

0:23:00.920 --> 0:23:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, I better ask the boss, you know, that

0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:06.679
<v Speaker 2>kind of thinking. So maybe they like it, Maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>like to have their favorite couch throw Now, look.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a whole different podcast. But you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>I think in some ways, I've got girlfriends that love

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that the man is in control and they're

0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:20.200
<v Speaker 1>living in a fifties scenario. They love that they're living.

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<v Speaker 2>In I would love that here, I've got your Martiney ready.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I got written out of the with a friendship circle.

0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I always talk about friendship circles like that's a series

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<v Speaker 1>of television. But I got written out of a series

0:23:35.160 --> 0:23:37.680
<v Speaker 1>with a girlfriend because she met a man and she

0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:40.760
<v Speaker 1>just wanted to become like, we hang up with the

0:23:40.760 --> 0:23:43.119
<v Speaker 1>girls when she gets free time. Oh, we see the girls.

0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:45.360
<v Speaker 1>And I was not a girl, and I got riten

0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:50.320
<v Speaker 1>out what she was living in the fifties. She was like, oh,

0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:51.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, was.

0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:53.640
<v Speaker 2>She not able to hang out with a guy?

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<v Speaker 1>I think he when he actually yeah, he said to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never met a gay person before.

0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 2>And he was, actually, you're a good first gay to meet.

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I would imagine.

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was going to be a good thing.

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, mate, you know, wait till you get

0:24:11.080 --> 0:24:13.119
<v Speaker 1>to know us a little bit more. And he just

0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 1>looked he was awkward with us.

0:24:15.000 --> 0:24:18.280
<v Speaker 2>He didn't like it. How could he not have met

0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:21.960
<v Speaker 2>someone gay. I don't even see how that's possible. Even

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:27.199
<v Speaker 2>my dad, my darling Dad. He's hematologist who who was

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:30.879
<v Speaker 2>his doctor for years, like a fantastic doctor, and he

0:24:30.960 --> 0:24:32.879
<v Speaker 2>was always like I can't wait for you to meet him,

0:24:33.000 --> 0:24:35.000
<v Speaker 2>that he loved him, loved him, loved him. And Dad

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:37.119
<v Speaker 2>when we came back to see Dad when he was

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:39.199
<v Speaker 2>really sick, when we were living in Italy, Lewis and

0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:41.880
<v Speaker 2>I flew back to see him. He was in hospital

0:24:42.480 --> 0:24:45.920
<v Speaker 2>and Dad was talking about his doctor and he goes, oh,

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 2>he's such a lovely man. He says that he's gay,

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 2>but I don't think he is. And I said this

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:56.240
<v Speaker 2>was Dad because Dad was a Christian, right and Dad

0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:58.439
<v Speaker 2>just couldn't if he loved him. He was like, I

0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 2>don't think this. Guys said that's funny because I was

0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:03.199
<v Speaker 2>just talking to him and he said his husband was

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:07.920
<v Speaker 2>making a roast dinner and Dad, I love Dad. Dad goes, oh, well,

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:14.520
<v Speaker 2>maybe he is. Next weekend is my niece's wedding, my

0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 2>dad's granddaughter, my mum and granddaughter. And she Chloe, my

0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 2>beautiful niece, Chloe, and she's marrying a woman. So I'm like,

0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:25.959
<v Speaker 2>what would Dad be saying in spirit? Well, they're getting married.

0:25:26.840 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 2>Maybe she is a lesbian. I don't know if we

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 2>don't know for sure, because he's.

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Not about the time, though, don't you think like that's

0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:37.720
<v Speaker 1>about that's about the and the environment they were brought

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:39.960
<v Speaker 1>up in. And I don't want to say all old

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:41.480
<v Speaker 1>people like that, because some of them are a little

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:46.000
<v Speaker 1>bit you know, have been able to get. But I'm

0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:49.719
<v Speaker 1>never offended by people who are I shouldn't say this,

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.359
<v Speaker 1>I'll probably get canceled. But I'm never offended by people

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 1>who are homophobic. I'm never offended about people who are racist.

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 1>If I feel like they were brought up in a

0:25:58.080 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 1>culture that meant that, that's all I know, and so

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:04.199
<v Speaker 1>I feel sorry for them a little bit. I'm like,

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I think there's.

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:12.000
<v Speaker 2>A tendency to diminish people's experiences and how it's how

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:15.640
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, colored the point of view, like, for instance,

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Peter's Nana lel who our daughter Sunday Lily is named after.

0:26:21.359 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 2>She lived through World War Two, so she would obviously

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 2>have very different feelings about certain races. Then we would

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 2>have have lived predominantly in peacetime. You know, It's just

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 2>I always think it's very arrogant of people to judge

0:26:36.720 --> 0:26:42.160
<v Speaker 2>the past through today's eyes, Like it's just so stupid,

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 2>like what do we know? We only know what we know.

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 2>We think we're so superior.

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:48.160
<v Speaker 1>You just reminded me of something one of the things

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 1>that you said to me once at a party where

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:54.439
<v Speaker 1>people come up and say to you, oh and now

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:55.920
<v Speaker 1>I never get the quote right. And I was trying

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>to tell Evie Jones the other day who you know

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and right, But it was someone came up to you,

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:05.320
<v Speaker 1>to me and to you independently and said where do

0:27:05.400 --> 0:27:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I know you from? What do I know you from?

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yes? Yes, people to say that.

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:12.520
<v Speaker 1>And you go, well, I'm not you. So if I don't,

0:27:12.560 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 1>if I'm not you, and I don't know what, I

0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:15.160
<v Speaker 1>can't remember.

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:18.440
<v Speaker 2>I this is what I say to people. Now, it depends.

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Some people are just whatever. But sometimes you don't want

0:27:21.920 --> 0:27:24.440
<v Speaker 2>to have to stand there and give your whole cv.

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 2>They go, what do I know you from? And I go,

0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know what you do. So

0:27:31.640 --> 0:27:33.879
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you know me from. Am I

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:37.560
<v Speaker 2>supposed to stand here? Because then inevitably what happens is

0:27:37.640 --> 0:27:40.600
<v Speaker 2>it's not just being a bitch. Inevitably what happens is

0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 2>I go, oh, well, I work on television. Oh yeah,

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 2>what TV? And I go, oh, for instance, I go,

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I might go I do the Project on Tuesday nights.

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh I never watched that. Okay, all right, well maybe

0:27:52.080 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 2>you know me from radio. I don't never listen to

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 2>Commersure radio. So then you just seemed up trying to

0:27:57.240 --> 0:28:00.159
<v Speaker 2>put pieces together for this asshole that's come up to

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:04.119
<v Speaker 2>you in the first place. You're trying to explain to

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:07.439
<v Speaker 2>them who you are, and they won't accept it. So

0:28:07.560 --> 0:28:08.919
<v Speaker 2>it's just you're on a hiding.

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:10.919
<v Speaker 1>But how to go?

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:13.239
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't I don't know what you know.

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 2>Where do you think you know me from?

0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:18.199
<v Speaker 1>I think it's brilliant because I actually only ever been

0:28:18.240 --> 0:28:19.959
<v Speaker 1>on Big Brother. That's the only show that I've ever

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:21.920
<v Speaker 1>done on that they would know me from. So when

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 1>they go, what I I know you from? And I'll

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:25.199
<v Speaker 1>be like I was on Big Brother. They go, I

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>don't watch that, and I'm like, William, I don't watch

0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:30.439
<v Speaker 1>because it's the only fucking thing I've been on. So

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 1>you either think I work at price Line.

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Funny thing. It's such a funny thing, isn't it? And

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:43.080
<v Speaker 2>people often think that I'm related to someone or the

0:28:43.160 --> 0:28:46.280
<v Speaker 2>other day, I was in a bakery in a suburb

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 2>that I've never been in before. I realized how habitual

0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 2>I am because it was like, Oh, I can go

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 2>into any bakery and buy life for bread. I don't

0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 2>have to wait till till I get within a five

0:28:57.400 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 2>k radius of my house anyone. This woman said, oh,

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 2>I've served you before, and I said, oh, I don't

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 2>think you have. She goes, yes, I have. I went okay, Like,

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:11.040
<v Speaker 2>what was I going to say?

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 1>You just have to be you just have to agree

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:14.720
<v Speaker 1>with them to get out of the situation. Because what

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>I've learned is time, time is money. I've got to go, mate,

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I've got no time to stand in the bloody supermarket

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 1>and tell you.

0:29:21.560 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 2>People think I'm related to someone you live next door to,

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 2>blah blah. Kevan I'm like, no, I don't they think

0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:33.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm lying that I don't live near water kevn No, no, no,

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. But it happens so often that

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 2>you realize how similar humans are. I mean, I once

0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 2>said hello to an actor at the seven eleven because

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 2>I thought I knew him, and then sorry, mate, so

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:51.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, and I'd never meet him. It happens. I

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 2>totally understand how it happens, but I'm not going to

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:55.560
<v Speaker 2>stand there and argue with someone about how I know them.

0:29:55.640 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Put it that way, we have a little digressed from

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>our talking of sh but because I mean, the message

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:04.480
<v Speaker 1>that we have to tell people primarily is to watch

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 1>this show. But I think they are like Kate, I

0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:09.960
<v Speaker 1>really feel like this is this is going to hit

0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 1>where TV is kind of missing at the moment, and

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 1>that is its relatable content and where people can see

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>themselves in these situations. And that's the currency of television

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>is feeling like we are connected and that we can

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 1>see ourselves in it. And I think there's not many

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 1>people that are not going to see a bit of

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 1>themselves in this show.

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 2>Well it's interesting as well because you've got the oldies

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 2>and then you've got the yummies, but who are all

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 2>part of the same journey, So that automatically gives it

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 2>a real textural difference to anything else. But also it's

0:30:42.240 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 2>just kind of fun. It's fun. Reality TV is fun.

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:50.040
<v Speaker 2>People who don't watch reality TV don't understand that aspect

0:30:50.080 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 2>of it.

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, you learn from it, I think these days, though,

0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:54.560
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of morphed. Like back in the day people

0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't watch those people in Big Brother.

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 2>You don't learn from it. You learned from it. What

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:05.120
<v Speaker 2>have we learned? We've learned nothing collectively as a society,

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 2>and we've never had more reality TV. We learned nothing.

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Can't we just enjoy it, just enjoying the peachful moment?

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Not everything is I learned from it? Though, Like I mean,

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>I must admit because my mom, Mom's gonna hate that,

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give the number to this. But mum's

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 1>been married three times, and so I've been been in

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:26.720
<v Speaker 1>my you know, I was probably eight when she married

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.840
<v Speaker 1>the first second time being not my father, and then

0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I was in my teenage years when she married again.

0:31:31.840 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, she's now in a new relationship

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 1>because unfortunately my stepfather she was with for twenty six

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 1>years died, So she's now in a fourth major relationship.

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:46.200
<v Speaker 2>So three and she's got game.

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, people, some people, how does she do it?

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Mum's beautiful though, like she's a really.

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah she must yeah, she must be.

0:31:55.160 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 1>She's just met My dad was a bit of a creep.

0:31:57.400 --> 0:31:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Well he was just a bit lost, to be honest,

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>and he's no longer with us. But then my stepfather,

0:32:05.320 --> 0:32:07.280
<v Speaker 1>like she married someone really quickly because she wanted us

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 1>boys to have a male role model. So she's like,

0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I've got to have a male role model.

0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh that school.

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Then he was a creep. And then she married this

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 1>man that got sick and died of pan gread of cancer.

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 1>So like, you know, yes, she's in it. She's about

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 1>to turn seven in she's in another relationship.

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:24.120
<v Speaker 2>Wow, racy, Yeah.

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 1>And go good on her, good on it. I'm about

0:32:26.840 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>to run out of time, so I have to ask

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 1>you before we get cut off by the bloody zoom.

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Everyone who joins the podcast gets asked this question, what's

0:32:34.320 --> 0:32:37.680
<v Speaker 1>something from behind the scenes, something that we won't see,

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of a you know, a deleted behind the scenes

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>moment from you making this show, kind of like a

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 1>secret you know, like I wasn't always there. I recorded

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>it all one night and.

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:49.680
<v Speaker 2>We've never been able to get to the bottom of it.

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:55.520
<v Speaker 2>The kids ran a mark in their house, and I

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:57.880
<v Speaker 2>could tell because the next day when I saw them

0:32:57.880 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 2>and they were very like I got on so with them,

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 2>but I could tell they were just all really weird

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 2>and they'd had a big party, and then I think

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:09.920
<v Speaker 2>they got amorous, some of them. But I knew. I

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:12.720
<v Speaker 2>knew as soon as I arrived the next day, I'm like,

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 2>what is going on here? Like the vibe was just

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 2>completely different.

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>You've got kids, you know, there's a look that kids

0:33:19.440 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 1>have when they come into the kitchen in the morning

0:33:21.200 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 1>to get their breakfast. If you're a mother, you can

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 1>see that face and you.

0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Know you are cento cento, as the Italians would say,

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent, that you've just got like a little antenna.

0:33:34.720 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Even when it's not on, it's on. You just know.

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 2>I sometimes don't even have to turn around to go

0:33:40.960 --> 0:33:43.840
<v Speaker 2>what's wrong with you? Don't know? I sound like fun

0:33:43.880 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 2>to live with. I don't even bother to any around.

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:51.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, what's wrong with you?

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not even going to look at you.

0:33:53.840 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 2>No you're not even worth my eyeball heart. I brought

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 2>to the show Ben, you will enjoy it enormously.

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait. I can't wait. Well, thank you so much.

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 1>I can't even thank you enough with your generosity to

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 1>join on the podcast and talk about the show. I

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:13.640
<v Speaker 1>hope people watch it. I hope people love it. I

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:16.320
<v Speaker 1>hope they get something from it, and I hope you

0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:19.040
<v Speaker 1>make millions of dollars out of being asked to come

0:34:19.080 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>back for seven.

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Television isn't what it was. I mean, let's say tens

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:31.080
<v Speaker 2>of dollars, tens, maybe dozens of dollars.

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 1>But you could be doing the show in ten years time.

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Imagine that if I'm back here talking to you on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten years I'm doing it, and I'm like, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>reunion show.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to leave it at that.