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Speaker 1: I'd like to begin by acknowledging the traditional custodians of

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Speaker 1: pay respect to the elders and communities of the many

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Speaker 1: lands where you, our listeners, are joining us today we

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Speaker 1: honor the continuing connection to country, culture and story. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to Find and Tell. I'm Mondonaravels. This is a

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Speaker 1: podcast where First Nation storytellers take the mic and bring

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Speaker 1: us powerful personal stories you won't hear anywhere else. Each episode,

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Speaker 1: our storytellers are given a theme and they take us

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Speaker 1: wherever it leads them. The yarns you'll hear are raw,

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Speaker 1: original and full of heart. And today we've got something

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Speaker 1: a little different and deadly funny from Micah kikett A

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Speaker 1: Praud Koori and nungar Man, who's a lawyer by day

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Speaker 1: and a stand up comedian by night. In this episode,

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Speaker 1: Micah takes us from the courtroom to the comedy stage

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Speaker 1: and along the way he finds freedom, community and his voice.

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Speaker 2: Did you want me to have a crack?

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Speaker 3: Bro?

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Speaker 2: Hang on? Wait, wait, which Mike you want? I've got four? Bet?

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Speaker 2: What does that sound like out there?

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Speaker 3: Mate?

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Speaker 2: How are we? Yeah? Cool? One Name's finally kick it.

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Speaker 2: And I'm originally from Broken Hill, which is like far

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Speaker 2: ways to New South Wales anymore brow where that is

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Speaker 2: the outback is home, rugged hills, red dirt, wide skies.

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Speaker 2: That was my whole world. But even as a kid,

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Speaker 2: people laugh, something lit up in me. When I'm on stage,

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Speaker 2: I'm free, no fear, no judgment, just meet the mic

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Speaker 2: and the moment I come alive. I remember stumbling across

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Speaker 2: the Melbourne International Comedy Gala on TV one night, watching

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Speaker 2: comedians take the stage and own the room, cutting through

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Speaker 2: maybe it was uncertainty, or maybe I just didn't know

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Speaker 2: what I really wanted. It's eight fifty two am. I

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Speaker 2: at least one of my clients actually shows up. Today's

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Speaker 2: a big one. Being a lawyer can be a wild ride, exhausting,

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Speaker 2: intent even exhilarating at times. What I love most was

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Speaker 2: But something wasn't quite right. I couldn't fully be myself.

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Speaker 4: There were rules, restrictions, legislation systems, and somewhere in all

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Speaker 4: of that I started losing touch with my creative side.

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Speaker 2: Still, I told myself, this is what I want right now.

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Speaker 2: Be the best lawyer you can be. Micah. It was

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Speaker 2: late one night in twenty nineteen. I was scrolling on

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Speaker 2: got what it takes to make a crowd laugh? Sign

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Speaker 2: up to the Deadly Funny Competition. I froze Darwin Heat

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Speaker 2: five minutes of original material a workshop with the legendary

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Speaker 2: Kevin Prepinuri. Thought you know what, Yeah, let's give it

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Speaker 2: Then I remember Deadly Funny Heat Tonight six pm. Brown's

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Speaker 2: mart Theater.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Back to Find and Tell Where with Micah Kikett

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Speaker 1: as he races from the courtroom floor to the comedy spotlight,

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Speaker 2: I led it across town, still in my suit, no

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Speaker 2: time to change. I arrive, heart pounding. Hey brother, Hey brother, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: It's Micah. I'm here for the com just came straight

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Speaker 2: drive five hours, five hours just to get to a

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Speaker 2: That's the grind, that's the hustle. But that's how much

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Speaker 2: urge to do more stand up and I see my

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Speaker 2: brother boys facebook post Fabian Woods Muditch comedy show at

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Speaker 2: Perth Fringe World. I reached out to brother Fabian. Hey, brother,

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Speaker 2: I just saw your post about the Mudditch comedy show.

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Speaker 2: I'll be in town then and I'll come along my

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Speaker 2: brother Reckon. Well, if you're in town, why don't you

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Speaker 2: just come join us. I'll make a spot for you.

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Speaker 2: What's the time now six o'clock. So when are we're on?

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Speaker 5: Six thirty?

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Speaker 2: Right? I am with Fabian Woods, creator of Mudditch Comedy.

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Speaker 2: But tell me who your mother?

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Speaker 5: Mama Woods Bolton my grip right, no, no, long as

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Speaker 2: Do you ever think back to your early gigs and

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Speaker 5: Were bloody ice. Yeah, yeah, I used to be shaken

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Speaker 5: for a few days, you know. Yeah, Now it's more excitement.

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Speaker 5: See now my jokes are going to be received and

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Speaker 2: Tell me about the mud Which comedy group? How did

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Speaker 5: It was a bit of a dream to have my

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Speaker 2: Now, if you're up for a brother, I want to

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Speaker 5: What did the dog when you looked up?

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Speaker 2: What roof too good? Tell me your name and your

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Speaker 2: mob Denise.

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Speaker 6: Kikett Neie Wilkes and I'm a wadark Indi Barranty Wangata

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Speaker 6: Gidea woman.

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Speaker 2: And what got you into stand up?

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Speaker 6: Oh my gosh. I started when I was like nineteen

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Speaker 6: As they say in the performing arts world, I think

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Speaker 6: our culture. And you know, to put a bit of

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Speaker 2: What does it mean to be a part of the

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, it's so good to be a part

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Speaker 6: somebody said to me, what's what's the Moddage crew? And

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Speaker 6: I said, We're just Mudditch because we're Modditch. And in

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Speaker 6: the three seconds Morich Comedy Crew. We just know how

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Speaker 6: to articulate our business, original business blackness in a way

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Speaker 6: that's so comical. You've got to come down and make

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Speaker 6: sure you come and see us.

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Speaker 2: And what does comedy do for mob and community? Aboriginal people?

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Speaker 6: And this is First Nations people, Indigenous people, whatever you

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Speaker 6: a Nonga, I just want to say that comedy is

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Speaker 6: our world.

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Speaker 3: We know.

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Speaker 6: We don't even have to open our mouths. We just

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Speaker 6: because we have been so indoctrinated with the white ways

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Speaker 6: that when it comes to comedy, we just love it.

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Speaker 2: And it's an opportunity for us.

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Speaker 6: To express our feelings and express who we are as

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Speaker 2: All right, So who we got here.

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Speaker 3: Liz Knuckle And here's a mob Nanunga and most of

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Speaker 3: my mom's from the Southwest. I've got a huge family,

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Speaker 3: too long of a story.

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Speaker 2: To tell, like most of us, So tell us what

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Speaker 3: I used to be very shy when I was younger,

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Speaker 3: and I did a leadership course, but I think it

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Speaker 3: I want to do stand up comedy. I want to

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Speaker 3: come out of shadows. And that's what inspired me to

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Speaker 2: So even though you've been doing it for a couple

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I tell people I'm a stand up comedian, but

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Speaker 3: not a complete professional. I'm still learning my trade.

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Speaker 2: So how do you find the time to fit this

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Speaker 2: all in with like life, were kids, family?

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Speaker 3: I am a nutcase. That's the only way to put it.

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Speaker 3: I can't put it in words why I do so much,

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Speaker 3: But I'm very much about giving back to the community.

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Speaker 3: I think it's important when you've got somewhere in life

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Speaker 3: that you give back to others. And that's my ethical

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Speaker 2: And what does comedy do for our mob, you reckon?

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Speaker 3: It takes away a little bit of stress, It takes

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Speaker 3: away the feeling of trauma because we've got, you know,

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Speaker 3: inherited trauma, intergenerational trauma, and it kind of helps us

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Speaker 3: to look at things because blackfellows are funny people and

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Speaker 3: we've always had a talent to laugh our problems away,

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Speaker 3: and it's just passing that gift on to the next person.

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Speaker 2: It's been a worthwhile grind doing stand up with the

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Speaker 2: Mudisch crew, tiring many flights back and forth to Nunga

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Speaker 2: Budja just to perform with the mob, but worth it.

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Speaker 2: There's something so special about sharing the stage with your

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Speaker 2: fellow black comedians. It's coming together and uniting for a

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Speaker 2: purpose to bring laughter and joy to our community, because

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Speaker 2: after all, that's what Mudisch means. And nunga deadly cool, awesome.

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Speaker 2: And while I did kill it in the court room,

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Speaker 2: I always felt that there was more to me than

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Speaker 2: just being this deadly fella dressed up in a certain tie.

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Speaker 2: It's almost like something is pulling you back from the

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Speaker 2: thing that you love most, the thing that makes you you.

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Speaker 2: That's why I do stand up. It's a nice balance

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Speaker 2: lawyer by day, comedian by night. As a lawyer you've

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Speaker 1: What really hit home for me is not just you know,

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Speaker 1: finding your own way to speak up, loud and clear

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Speaker 1: in a way that feels right to you. Next time,

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Speaker 1: we're going to meet a deadly storyteller who took the

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Speaker 1: and join me next week to hear this young woman's

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Speaker 1: incredible and inspirational story. I'm Ndanara Boes and this is

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Speaker 1: Find and Tell. Bind and Tell is a co production

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Speaker 1: between iHeart Australia and the black Cast podcast network. Black

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Speaker 1: a more inclusive Australia by showcasing exciting emergent talent from

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