Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
Speaker 1: Amy Torber and coming up on today's show, Tammy Hembro
Speaker 1: confirms she's divorcing Matt Sakowski and Sarah's day unveils her
Speaker 1: yummy mummy luxury car. But first, Kate, the missing piece
Speaker 1: of the Outspoken family, is finally here. Oh, and he
Speaker 1: is just so perfect. Even though you had Harry what
Speaker 1: eight or nine weeks ago, I still can't get over
Speaker 1: how small newborn babies are. They grow so quickly. Yes,
Speaker 1: and Sophie, of course gave birth to Luca Archie. Kate,
Speaker 1: you keep saying his name is Archie. That's the name
Speaker 1: of her dog. Oh, I know, it's really confusing. Even
Speaker 1: in the script I wrote Archie Luca, I was like, oops,
Speaker 1: so Archie is Sophie and Brandon's firstborn, but Luca is
Speaker 1: the nonferred baby, real baby. He is just so cute. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were trying to work out who he looked like.
Speaker 1: I mean, immediately when I saw him, I went, he
Speaker 1: looks like Sophie as a baby, But then Paul's expressions
Speaker 1: that look like Brandon Yeah, it's definitely a mix this
Speaker 1: time because Amy, you and I basically gave birth to
Speaker 1: our husbands. I don't know. A lot of people now
Speaker 1: have been saying that Harry looks like me. Even sorry
Speaker 1: family yesterday all said he looks like you. I think
Speaker 1: they're being polite. He literally looks like a minni Dale
Speaker 1: to me. I often go to call him Dale. But
Speaker 1: I am getting a lot of the names confused because
Speaker 1: now I'm calling Jack Harry, and now that Luca's in
Speaker 1: the picture, I mean I'm also getting Archie in there too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, they've all got similar amount of letters in them,
Speaker 1: so it is kind of getting confusing all of these boys' names.
Speaker 1: But what was going to be even more confusing was
Speaker 1: the fact that Luca was scheduled to be born on
Speaker 1: Jack's birthday up until the very last minute.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think we'll go into that more on Sovie's birth episode,
Speaker 1: because we do have a clip of her telling me
Speaker 1: I didn't realize I was being recorded. We thought your
Speaker 1: reaction was going to be so poor. We just thought
Speaker 1: it would be funny to actually have it recorded. I
Speaker 1: acted really nice. Yeah, we were shocked. We're like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: this isn't that this isn't that entertaining. Well, I thought
Speaker 1: it might be kind of nice for the boys to
Speaker 1: share a birthday because we've grown up sharing our birthdays,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Oh, that's really cute that they'll
Speaker 1: be connected in that way. But as the weeks went on,
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, hang on, it's not fair
Speaker 1: that they're going to have to share their birthday. And
Speaker 1: Sophie ended up getting a call I think it was
Speaker 1: a week before the c section, to say, actually, you're
Speaker 1: a day earlier, so they're one day apart.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I think that's a lot better. I actually saw jar
Speaker 1: Dae Tunci and her sister had the same thing happened
Speaker 1: to them. So jar Day's sister's baby was born i
Speaker 1: think the day after her son, Fletcher, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's more common than you think. Well,
Speaker 1: I think you guys are paranoid that people might have thought, oh,
Speaker 1: you plan to have the babies on the same day,
Speaker 1: because of course, Sophie and I got proposed to on
Speaker 1: the same day. Our weddings were nine weeks apart. I
Speaker 1: think Sophie was just thinking, I wish there was just
Speaker 1: something I had on my own. Yeah, it's always growing
Speaker 1: up with all that freaky triplet stuff. As much as
Speaker 1: you try not to be the same, there are similar occurrences.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, not this again, just while
Speaker 1: you're transitioning back from maternity leave to full time work
Speaker 1: for Outspoken, I say that as you have Harry on
Speaker 1: your lab. I'm so sorry. Of course he's just making
Speaker 1: all of these noises. He's meant to be asleep. But
Speaker 1: here that other Oh have other ideas. Yeah, So, as
Speaker 1: you can see, we are trying to manage everything, and
Speaker 1: that's why we've got a Tammy Hembro Deep Dive ready
Speaker 1: to go for the next couple of weeks. I think
Speaker 1: it should be four parts, but considering everything that's been happening,
Speaker 1: who knows, it may turn into a fifth part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you need an extra episode actually. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: for the next couple of weeks, we'll be doing a
Speaker 1: regular Tuesday show and then we'll be dropping a Deep
Speaker 1: Dive episode on Fridays. We also still have our Outspoken
Speaker 1: Plus subscriber only episodes that are released on Thursdays.
Speaker 3: I wanted to finally tell you guys that I am
Speaker 3: going to be getting a divorce Tammy Hembro has announced
Speaker 3: she's divorcing Matt Sakowski after just seven months of marriage.
Speaker 1: The well Wind romance captivated Audio and says thanks to
Speaker 1: the many ups and downs, from getting engaged in the
Speaker 1: Maldives after dating long distance for three months, to the
Speaker 1: Grand Prix cheating scandal, It's been a wild ride for
Speaker 1: Tammy's seventeen million followers. Kay we have spoken at length
Speaker 1: on the podcast about this relationship, and listeners will know
Speaker 1: that breakup rumors have been swirling for months since the
Speaker 1: couple unfollowed each other on Instagram in March. Now, despite
Speaker 1: knowing all of that, it didn't make it easier watching
Speaker 1: Tammy confirm the news on TikTok. I'm absolutely shattered for her,
Speaker 1: and I know that there will be some listeners saying, oh,
Speaker 1: she should have seen the red flags, But she's still
Speaker 1: a woman who just wanted to be loved. And I've
Speaker 1: consumed a lot of Tammy Hembro content and my observation
Speaker 1: is that she is a hopeless romantic that loves love
Speaker 1: and she fought really hard for this relationship with Matt.
Speaker 1: This is despite her sister's publicly warning her that she
Speaker 1: shouldn't marry him. She went ahead with her anyway, And
Speaker 1: that's why it was so difficult to watch, because Tammy
Speaker 1: did have to admit on camera that she was wrong
Speaker 1: and that in fact, her sisters were right. And having sisters,
Speaker 1: I know how difficult that is to admit when you
Speaker 1: are in the wrong. Oh. It reminded me of the
Speaker 1: toxic relationship I used to be in, and it would
Speaker 1: have been so hard to say, actually, you've been right
Speaker 1: because I stayed in this relationship because I kind of
Speaker 1: wanted to prove a point that you guys were wrong.
Speaker 1: And I almost feel like that's what's happened in this situation.
Speaker 1: And it was clear how anxious Tammy was on camera.
Speaker 1: She was shaking when she confirmed the news. Let's take
Speaker 1: a listen.
Speaker 4: I feel like, oh my gosh, this is giving me
Speaker 4: so much anxiety. Oh my god, I'm worry just have tissues,
Speaker 4: not about my makeup, Okay.
Speaker 3: So I wanted to finally tell you guys that I
Speaker 3: am going to be getting a divorce. I know, I
Speaker 3: know a lot of you have been. I know a
Speaker 3: lot of you have been, you know, following my journey
Speaker 3: for years.
Speaker 2: So I wanted to be open about it and you know,
Speaker 2: I do feel like for me, addressing with you guys
Speaker 2: is sort of.
Speaker 3: Therapeutic, Like it's sort of like the next step for me.
Speaker 3: I guess, uh, it's not. I don't want to get
Speaker 3: into details, and I just you know, I'm not one
Speaker 3: to try and like bring anyone down. I don't want to, like,
Speaker 3: I just want to be sensitive to everyone involved. I
Speaker 3: don't want to talk about anyone other than my to
Speaker 3: be honest.
Speaker 1: I really wasn't surprised to hear Tammy say that she
Speaker 1: wasn't going to go into the details, although I was disappointed,
Speaker 1: but that has really been her go to strategy with
Speaker 1: her breakups with her former fiances of course, Reese Hawkins
Speaker 1: and also Matt Paul.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The big difference though here is that Tammy has children
Speaker 1: with Reese and Matt Paul, but not with Matt Sakowski,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up dropping
Speaker 1: details as time goes on. I think it will also
Speaker 1: depend on Matt's behavior and how he acts. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: in saying that, things did get a little bit nasty
Speaker 1: between Tammy and Reese, but we never actually found out
Speaker 1: what really caused their breakup, Whereas with Matt Sakowski. I
Speaker 1: think she may open up about what caused the breakdown eventually,
Speaker 1: and she did drop the other day that she's thinking
Speaker 1: of starting her own podcast, so I would not be
Speaker 1: surprised if her first episode was all about her breakup.
Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit of a fuck you
Speaker 1: to Matt as well, because he clearly is very focused
Speaker 1: on his own podcast, Where's Your Head At? And even
Speaker 1: though he's tried really hard to get listeners across from
Speaker 1: Tammy's following, it just hasn't worked.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think there's been a lot of conversation around Matt
Speaker 1: looking like he's a bit of a clout chaser for
Speaker 1: going after Tammy. But the funny thing is it really
Speaker 1: hasn't affected his follower out positively. I think he's been
Speaker 1: on what like one hundred and fifty thousand followers for
Speaker 1: a very long time. You think dating someone with seventeen
Speaker 1: million followers would actually bump up your following, but he's
Speaker 1: been very much disliked by her fans. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I can see why you touched on the Grand Prix
Speaker 1: cheating scandal that happened very early on in their relationship.
Speaker 1: I don't think that he's ever fully recovered from that.
Speaker 1: I think there was a bit more love going Matt's
Speaker 1: way after their wedding and when they went on their honeymoon.
Speaker 1: I think people were thinking, oh, well, maybe he is
Speaker 1: in it for the right reasons and maybe he's treating
Speaker 1: Tammy well, so let's be happy for them. But that
Speaker 1: really ended so quickly because after their honeymoon, we didn't
Speaker 1: really see much much of Matt. I think the last
Speaker 1: post we saw of them together was Matt spooking some
Speaker 1: kind of wedding photo album that he had created that
Speaker 1: was around Valentine's Day.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: During her statement, Tammy said that she never wanted or
Speaker 1: expected to break up with Matt and thought that their
Speaker 1: marriage would last forever. She conceded, though, that there was
Speaker 1: no other option but divorce. Tammy also revealed she's currently
Speaker 1: in therapy, and she said that she realizes she has
Speaker 1: a lot of growing to do. Here's more of what
Speaker 1: she said.
Speaker 3: I blame no one but myself, to be honest, I
Speaker 3: feel like I've made not the best choices when it
Speaker 3: comes to relationships.
Speaker 2: And I've.
Speaker 3: You know, i feel like I'm really good at putting
Speaker 3: on rose colored classes or She's getting like swept up
Speaker 3: and in it all. Obviously the worst part for me
Speaker 3: is that like I have kids, like I don't, I
Speaker 3: don't care about me, like I know I'll be okay,
Speaker 3: but I just I feel obviously fu I obviously feel
Speaker 3: awful for like.
Speaker 2: I feel.
Speaker 1: I just felt awful.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, stop crying.
Speaker 3: Stop cry. Obviously I've like I get a lot of
Speaker 3: nasty comments being like, oh another marriage, like this is
Speaker 3: my first marriage, just FYI, But no comment that anyone
Speaker 3: could say, like, these comments haven't even been really getting
Speaker 3: to me, because nothing to anyone could say could make.
Speaker 2: Me feel like.
Speaker 3: More like shit than I already do, like more humiliated
Speaker 3: or more I'm like I already they think that about
Speaker 3: myself right now, so they don't think those comments get
Speaker 3: to me because I'm already there. Ah, end of the day,
Speaker 3: I know this is what needs to happen.
Speaker 1: Whatever you think about Tammy Hembro on a human level,
Speaker 1: that really hurt to listen to, especially when she put
Speaker 1: a reputation on the line for Matt Zakowski and it's
Speaker 1: all blown up in her face. Well, she mentioned in
Speaker 1: Their Feeling Humiliated that quote of hers has been splashed
Speaker 1: all over the media, and I think this relationship with
Speaker 1: Matt Zakowski is going to be one that haunts her
Speaker 1: for a long time. I mean, it's just so sad,
Speaker 1: particularly with three children involved. And when they started dating,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of judgment masked as folk concern
Speaker 1: about Tammy introducing her kids too early to Matt, and
Speaker 1: it would be really difficult for Tammy to be like,
Speaker 1: hang on, yeah, you were right to be concerned. I
Speaker 1: shouldn't have done that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Tammy's son Wolf especially got really close to Matt.
Speaker 1: They seem to have a special relationship. I also think
Speaker 1: the fact that Tammy actually married Matt would have made
Speaker 1: it really different for the kids. They would have gone,
Speaker 1: this is my new stepdad. I mean. It was only
Speaker 1: recently that Matt appeared on Shameless Media's Inherited podcast and
Speaker 1: he spoke about the role of being a stepdad and
Speaker 1: how important and special it was to him, considering that
Speaker 1: he's been very open about the fact that he'll find
Speaker 1: it difficult to naturally conceive a child. At the time,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of backlash aimed at Shameless for
Speaker 1: having Mat Sakowski on the podcast. Yeah, and that's actually
Speaker 1: continued now that the breakup has gone live, people like
Speaker 1: you should never have given him the platform. Well, I
Speaker 1: wonder when that interview was actually recorded and if he
Speaker 1: was honest with the team about what his relationship was
Speaker 1: currently with Tammy. Yeah, I mean, to be fair to
Speaker 1: Shameless Media, I think it was a good get for them.
Speaker 1: I think it probably got a lot of downloads. And
Speaker 1: I also think that Shameless Media's intention was probably to
Speaker 1: have a really raw conversation with Matt about what it's
Speaker 1: like being a stepdad. But I don't think he stepped
Speaker 1: up to the plate. The conversation itself was bizarre, but
Speaker 1: it was more bizarre from Matt's perspective. I think the
Speaker 1: questions they actually asked him were very strong, but he
Speaker 1: just didn't come to the table.
Speaker 3: It was just a.
Speaker 1: Very strange mix. Now. I want to talk more about
Speaker 1: Tammy's sisters in this scenario, because on Wednesday, before this
Speaker 1: announcement went live, Tammy shared a special post for her
Speaker 1: sister Amy's birthday, writing, thank you for always being there
Speaker 1: for me and for loving me through every season and
Speaker 1: through every version of me. You've wiped my tears, told
Speaker 1: me the truth even when I didn't want to hear it,
Speaker 1: and you've given advice even when I refused to listen.
Speaker 1: With a crying face emoji. Fast forward to Sunday, during
Speaker 1: Tammy's divorce announcement, she then said this.
Speaker 3: There's a lesson and everything, and hopefully this time I
Speaker 3: love it, and you know, hopefully I am more cautious
Speaker 3: going forward and more you know, just eyes wide open
Speaker 3: and you know, like listen to the people are at
Speaker 3: me in Hopefully I just finally learned from these sex
Speaker 3: which I feel like I finally will. But yeah, super embarrassing,
Speaker 3: super heartbreaking, super just shit situation.
Speaker 1: Now, just for some context, if you cast your mind
Speaker 1: back to October, Tammy's older sisters Emily and Amy famously
Speaker 1: called Matt out during an interview on his podcast. It
Speaker 1: was the most awkward interview I've ever heard, And I
Speaker 1: still don't get how Matt thought it was a good
Speaker 1: idea to share it. He must have been so desperate
Speaker 1: for rating it. Is it because Matt doesn't edit the podcast,
Speaker 1: like because did he not listen to it back at all?
Speaker 1: Surely he had to give it the green light, But
Speaker 1: in the moment you knew it was a train rope
Speaker 1: from the game. Maybe he thought there'd be some bits
Speaker 1: edited out. I mean, they couldn't have made it any
Speaker 1: clear or how much they despised him. They literally called
Speaker 1: him an immature baby and said that they had massive
Speaker 1: concerns about their relationship. I remember them going on about
Speaker 1: how they thought it was so rude that when they
Speaker 1: came over to Tammy's house, Matt was acting like it
Speaker 1: was his own, and that kind of gave off the
Speaker 1: impression that maybe Matt was coming across like a gold digger,
Speaker 1: or just that he was really enjoying being in Tammy's mansion. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I went back and re listened to the episode, and
Speaker 1: I had forgotten that one week into their relationship, Tammy
Speaker 1: and Matt announced to her family that they were loping. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that news led to a crisis meeting with a
Speaker 1: Hembro family where things got really heated. This is what
Speaker 1: Emily said about it.
Speaker 5: When you guys said you were getting engaged, I was like,
Speaker 5: he must be that delusional. I was really concerned because
Speaker 5: she is, like, she's spontaneous, and she's a fun spirit,
Speaker 5: and she likes to do what she wants to do.
Speaker 5: But for a guy to come in and think that's
Speaker 5: okay when she's got a one year old. Like, I
Speaker 5: thought that was a big red flag.
Speaker 1: We're talking about things haunting Tammy, hembro, this must be
Speaker 1: top of the list, especially this warning from Emily.
Speaker 5: I just hope you know marriage is a serious thing. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it is actually a serious thing. And like I hope
Speaker 5: you don't make any mistakes, Like I really pray and
Speaker 5: hope that you don't do anything to hurt Tammy.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hurt Tammy. I have no intention of
Speaker 1: hurting Tammy. Geez, that quote did not age well from
Speaker 1: Matt Szakowski. The sad thing is often it's people like
Speaker 1: your sisters who can see the red flags. I mean,
Speaker 1: Matt was clearly love bombing Tamy. To be fair, we
Speaker 1: don't know what was going on inside their relationship, but
Speaker 1: from my perspective of having experienced a toxic relationship, normally
Speaker 1: the person tries to turn you against your family, and
Speaker 1: often when the family are calling out bad behavior, it
Speaker 1: then in this weird way, forces you together and you're
Speaker 1: like this team against them. And I think it seems
Speaker 1: like that's what's happened, and she would situation and she
Speaker 1: probably stopped telling her sisters things that Matt had done
Speaker 1: that might have been even bigger red flags for fear
Speaker 1: of them being really judgmental and hating Matt even more now.
Speaker 1: A couple of hours after Tammy's announcement, Matt posted his
Speaker 1: own statement to his Instagram story. He wrote, it is
Speaker 1: with a heavy heart that I share that Tammy and
Speaker 1: I have decided to separate. Both of us have struggled
Speaker 1: with making this decision. However, we need to do what
Speaker 1: is right for ourselves and her three children. This wasn't
Speaker 1: a decision we took lightly. Our time together will always
Speaker 1: be cherished and never forgotten. We appreciate everyone's support and
Speaker 1: space at this time as we navigate the split. I
Speaker 1: love at the end. How Matt tried to make out
Speaker 1: like it was some kind of joint statement with the WII,
Speaker 1: It's like, no, you've had to rush out this statement.
Speaker 1: I saw some people saying was this possibly a chat
Speaker 1: GPT job. Some people was questioning whether his mum wrote it,
Speaker 1: and that was a bit of a dig because before
Speaker 1: he moved into Tammy's mansion on the Gold Coast, he
Speaker 1: was living with his mum in Melbourne. What really stood
Speaker 1: out to me was the wording of her three children,
Speaker 1: which was pretty upsetting, I think because he took on
Speaker 1: the role of stepfather and it's quite clear he didn't
Speaker 1: really take it very serious. So it would have been
Speaker 1: more bizarre if he said our three children. True, But
Speaker 1: there's a way of saying it, like it felt very
Speaker 1: cold and callous. What could be for ourselves and the children?
Speaker 1: I mean, breakups aren't about winning. But if you were
Speaker 1: putting those two announcements together, Tammy is in the lead
Speaker 1: by a million miles. But I think what it boils
Speaker 1: down to is this was a rush job by Matt.
Speaker 1: He clearly didn't know Tammy was going to go and
Speaker 1: put that TikTok out on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But in saying that, I think Tammy's announcement was very strong.
Speaker 1: It really regnized her. I was pleasantly surprised by the reaction.
Speaker 1: I was a little bit worried about how hard people
Speaker 1: would go on her. But I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: just the era that we're in at the moment, with
Speaker 1: Indy Clinton calling out trolls and all of the tattle
Speaker 1: life stuff that people are actually saying, Oh, that's a
Speaker 1: real person in the middle of this. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's because in the video she actually owned up the
Speaker 1: things she said. You know, it was my fault. I
Speaker 1: was warned about this and it really humanized her. But
Speaker 1: also it took away things that people can say to
Speaker 1: her because she already said it. She's like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: get swept up in this and she only needed to
Speaker 1: learn from it. You know, I thought I had grown,
Speaker 1: but clearly not. I think clearly Matt's got a bit
Speaker 1: of work to do moving forward as well, because I
Speaker 1: was a little bit disappointed. While he was trying to
Speaker 1: push on his Instagram story that things were okay between them,
Speaker 1: he couldn't help but hit back at a commenter that
Speaker 1: praised Tammy. So someone wrote, actually don't understand how this
Speaker 1: man could or would want to stuff it up. Tammy
Speaker 1: is a dream girl, to which Matt responded, you don't
Speaker 1: know her. That's just low to go onto the comment section.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 1: Matt also liked another comment which read, finally he's free.
Speaker 1: It's reminding me of Morgan Waterhouse, who was Olivia rodgers
Speaker 1: ex behavior when they broke up. You know, when his
Speaker 1: immature friends came out like h she eat slept with
Speaker 1: this pant's like no fuck off? Like yeah, do you
Speaker 1: think she's going to come back from attorney to leave
Speaker 1: early to do a tell all episode. I think so,
Speaker 1: because this has turned into very big news. I think
Speaker 1: the fact that they had their wedding in Vogue as
Speaker 1: well has made this even more of a national story.
Speaker 1: I mean it's international even it's international news. And the
Speaker 1: timing of Tammy coming out and confirming the divorce is
Speaker 1: quite interesting because just last week she finally admitted that
Speaker 1: she was going through something tough, but she didn't really
Speaker 1: seem at a point where she wanted to speak about it. However,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden that changed on the weekend after
Speaker 1: Matt was spotted getting cozy on Saturday night with a
Speaker 1: Tammy lookalike at the La Rams event in Melbourne. The
Speaker 1: woman in question is News Corp sports journalist Taylor Little,
Speaker 1: and they clearly hit it off because they were spotted
Speaker 1: together drinking at a bar in Richmond following the event.
Speaker 1: Taylor even posted Matt on an Instagram story. The pair
Speaker 1: follow each other, so she shared a video of her
Speaker 1: and Matt at one of the NFL activations and wrote
Speaker 1: Matt Sakowski won't play with me and tagged him Now.
Speaker 1: The story got swiftly deleted. I feel quite sorry for
Speaker 1: Taylor because it sounds like she was at this event
Speaker 1: doing her job, and now she's suddenly at the center
Speaker 1: of this huge story. Amy, I think you're being too kind.
Speaker 1: I think she put herself in the center by tagging
Speaker 1: him in her Instagram story. There's flirtatious vibes to on
Speaker 1: Matzakowski won't play with me. Everyone is wondering what's going
Speaker 1: on with Matt and Tammy, and the fact that they
Speaker 1: were spotted together at the bar was really not a
Speaker 1: good look. It wasn't a good look. But Matt's the
Speaker 1: one who should be looking out for Tammy. He's the
Speaker 1: one that's married to her, so it's on him if
Speaker 1: he's going to be spotted out with a blonde Tammy
Speaker 1: look a lot. It's so awkward how similar they look.
Speaker 1: We posted a photo of Taylor Little on our Instagram
Speaker 1: and people were like, hang on, I thought that was Tammy.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I was glad to see that Tammy also had good
Speaker 1: Saturday night because she was at her best friend Isabel
Speaker 1: Law's birthday, and Isabel was one of the first people
Speaker 1: to actually unfollow Matt. Yeah, that's when people were like Oh,
Speaker 1: they definitely must be broken up. Yeah, she looked absolutely incredible.
Speaker 1: She was wearing this pink dress. A lot of people
Speaker 1: are saying it's her Princess Diana revenge dress. Remember when
Speaker 1: Olivia Rodgers came out with her revenge dress. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean at this point, I think anytime you were a
Speaker 1: dress after a breakup, people were like, oh, it's a
Speaker 1: revenge dress. Tammy was definitely showing off this outfit though,
Speaker 1: because she posted a TikTok with the caption be in
Speaker 1: a minute, make up and acute dress is therapy. I
Speaker 1: swear she also mind to the Taylor Swift lyrics, only
Speaker 1: bought this dress so you could take it off. Oh
Speaker 1: well that's a change, because all she was listening to
Speaker 1: was Sabrina Carpenter's man Eat a song previously. Poor Tammy,
Speaker 1: She's definitely in her Taylor Swift era. At the moment
Speaker 1: after the divorce announcement, she posted a video of her
Speaker 1: miming to other Taylor Swift breakup lyrics. I want to
Speaker 1: talk about the Vogue wedding deal that Matt and Tammy
Speaker 1: had because there has been a lot of speculation that
Speaker 1: they weren't announced. Seeing the news of their breakup due
Speaker 1: to this deal. Yeah, because Vogue exclusively covered their wedding
Speaker 1: back in November, and it must have been a pretty
Speaker 1: significant deal because Tammy and Matt are also Vogue collaborated
Speaker 1: on their first wedding photo announcement post, which is a
Speaker 1: really big deal with Tammy having seventeen million followers. So
Speaker 1: there was talk that maybe Vogue had made them sign
Speaker 1: a contract that if they broke up, they couldn't announce
Speaker 1: it in a certain period of time because Batchel's style. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and last week I was on my high horse saying
Speaker 1: there's no way that Vogue would be able to do that.
Speaker 1: But since then I've come across the Vogue wedding curse
Speaker 1: trend that has been circulating on TikTok so. A TikToker
Speaker 1: called Georgie recently pointed out that Vogue weddings are likely
Speaker 1: to end in short lived marriages, so most of them
Speaker 1: end in a quickie divorce, usually a year or less later,
Speaker 1: and editors at a publication called air Mail when that
Speaker 1: step further. They did their own investigation into it and
Speaker 1: found at least thirty weddings Vogue covered in the last
Speaker 1: ten years have ended in divorce. So some big name
Speaker 1: divorces include Lopez and Ben Affleck, as well as Ariana
Speaker 1: Grande and Dalton Gomez. There was also Sophia Bush's wedding
Speaker 1: that featured in there. I was thinking that maybe it
Speaker 1: was because Vogue has started including influencer weddings that there's
Speaker 1: been this huge job. I hope it's not the case,
Speaker 1: because some very popular influencer's weddings have featured in Vogue
Speaker 1: recently m Davies and Nicki Wescott. Let's hope maybe Tammy
Speaker 1: Henbro has taken one for the tear.
Speaker 5: I've been on the hunt for the perfect seven seater
Speaker 5: boss mum car, I.
Speaker 3: Usually want one.
Speaker 1: Sarah's Day has unveiled her new car to wear one
Speaker 1: point two million Instagram followers. Back in February, the self
Speaker 1: proclaimed holistic health Princess launched an Instagram series test driving
Speaker 1: and reviewing luxury family vehicles. Now, Sarah only ended up
Speaker 1: sharing two reviews, but it was a rating success.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Both of those reviews clocked up over a million views
Speaker 1: each and created a lot of discussion online. While most
Speaker 1: people loved getting a pervy look inside the luxury cars,
Speaker 1: others felt that sa Ara was being a little bit
Speaker 1: tone deaf by splashing around her wealth. Now, Sarah isn't silly.
Speaker 1: She's been on social media for ten years, and she
Speaker 1: preempted this negative reaction before she even uploaded the first video.
Speaker 1: So she assured her followers that she wasn't out of
Speaker 1: touch in saying that the reviews of the luxury cars
Speaker 1: were pretty critical. But I suppose that's what she's there
Speaker 1: to do. It's one of those things where I enjoyed
Speaker 1: watching the videos, but I was also like, ugh, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's this strange thing, isn't it. I think that's a
Speaker 1: lot of social media. Yeah, it's this weird thing where
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm really enjoying seeing the luxury features, but
Speaker 1: I know I'm never going to be able to afford it,
Speaker 1: so I'm a little bit jealous. Now, Sarah ended up
Speaker 1: going with a brand new Audi SQ seven sports model,
Speaker 1: the turbo twin engine. I'm pretending like I know what
Speaker 1: that means, but essentially the engine is meant to be
Speaker 1: like a sports car. I think everyone just wants to know,
Speaker 1: is this her ultimate yummy mummy car? That's what she
Speaker 1: kept labeling it. Well, it's very nice, it's a very
Speaker 1: impressive seven seater car. There are a lot of features.
Speaker 1: The one that stood out to me was the massage chairs.
Speaker 1: What yeah, so imagine sitting there in peak our traffic
Speaker 1: getting a massage. I've heard of heated seats, but I
Speaker 1: actually didn't even know you could get massage. See the car.
Speaker 1: Of course heats and cools the seats too. It also
Speaker 1: has automatic soft closing doors, this massive fuck off sun roof,
Speaker 1: and an automatic opening boot. One thing that didn't really
Speaker 1: tickle my fancy though, was it had bright red seat belts.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember when I was looking for my car, the
Speaker 1: top models all have like red stitching. I think it's
Speaker 1: part of the sports model. I don't like it either. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not a massive fan of red, and I think
Speaker 1: maybe it's got that flashy value to it. But I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna get old, particularly because she've logs a
Speaker 1: lot in her car. Look, I wouldn't say no to
Speaker 1: It reminds me of that TikTok video where people show
Speaker 1: themselves walking on these really wealthy streets and they're like,
Speaker 1: look what they did to the window. That wouldn't have
Speaker 1: done that. It also pointed out that the brake calipers
Speaker 1: whatever they are, they're near The wheel already came in red,
Speaker 1: but if they hadn't, she would have got them paid
Speaker 1: because that's what she normally does. Well, if you're spending
Speaker 1: that much money on the car, I can kind of
Speaker 1: see why you might want those little details perfected. My
Speaker 1: biggest question though, was how much did this all cost?
Speaker 1: Because there was a disparity between prices in her two reviews. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because the first car she reviewed was Alexis GX five fifty,
Speaker 1: which cost around one hundred and thirty thousand dollars, while
Speaker 1: the other car was a seven seater range Rover, which
Speaker 1: retailed for three hundred and fifty thousand dollars. You're just
Speaker 1: paying for the brand, aren't you. Oh, to be fair,
Speaker 1: that rang Drover was absolutely incredible. It had like TV screens,
Speaker 1: it had a fridge in it. It was very all
Speaker 1: unnecessary extras. I mean three hundred and fifty thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: that is a lot of money for a car. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: the Audi that she ended up getting costs around one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five thousand for the base model. Is
Speaker 1: it about that? That seems reasonable after hearing how much
Speaker 1: the range Rover costs I'm assuming Sarah would have got
Speaker 1: the top model close to it. When asked how she
Speaker 1: came to her decision with the three cars she reviewed,
Speaker 1: Sarah wrote, Lexus wasn't as luxurious as I wanted and
Speaker 1: didn't have all the extras range drove. It was one
Speaker 1: hundred k more and I couldn't justify that When the
Speaker 1: Audi to meet felt more me sporty, fast and a
Speaker 1: bit unique. I had to love that. That's how she
Speaker 1: describes herself. I know, you know when you realize these
Speaker 1: people have weigh too much time on their hands to
Speaker 1: think about how their car reflects them as a person.
Speaker 1: I mean that didn't come to mind when I bought
Speaker 1: my new car. No, I mean it sounds like she
Speaker 1: probably paid around two point fifty fourth car. Dang hell,
Speaker 1: I mean it's not surprising. We know Sarah's day is
Speaker 1: a very successful business woman. I mean she bought her
Speaker 1: dad a car for his birthday, not just a car
Speaker 1: at Auston Martin. Yeah, but did you see she put
Speaker 1: up a vlog recently and it was a trip that
Speaker 1: she and her family went on to celebrate her mum's
Speaker 1: sixtieth and also her sister's thirtieth birth I also know
Speaker 1: they went to Fiji. We had a lot of controversy
Speaker 1: over our thoughts about her taking her son out of school. Yes,
Speaker 1: of course I was a way for that episode, but
Speaker 1: I thoroughly enjoyed the Fiji vlog, so maybe it was
Speaker 1: worth pulling him out of school. I was just thinking,
Speaker 1: what's she going to get her mum to top the
Speaker 1: Aston Mutton? But well, what she got her mum was
Speaker 1: a holiday with her to Hamilton Island, and I think
Speaker 1: they're staying at some really expensive hotel. But I thought,
Speaker 1: surely that holiday doesn't cost the same amount of money
Speaker 1: as an Aston Mutton. Perhaps she didn't want to share
Speaker 1: the extra gift she'd gotten her, like the holiday isn't
Speaker 1: enough as well, it's incredible, it's enough, but compared to
Speaker 1: a brand new car, well, I suppose her mom kind
Speaker 1: of got the car too. She probably drives in it
Speaker 1: with her dad. Did you see that Molly May's sister,
Speaker 1: Zoe Haig, She's bought this big fuck off car as well.
Speaker 1: Oh really yeah? It just shows you how well her
Speaker 1: influencer career is going. I mean to be skeptical, A
Speaker 1: lot of car brands would want Zoe Hag driving in
Speaker 1: her car, So I'm sure that there's a partnership element.
Speaker 1: I mean, originally, when Sarah launched this car series, there
Speaker 1: was a lot of skepticism around how organic it was.
Speaker 1: A lot of people, including myself, thought it was a
Speaker 1: paid partnership or she was fishing around for a free car. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because her husband had done a lot of work with Lexus,
Speaker 1: so we were assuming and the end of this car
Speaker 1: series it was going to be a Lexus. But we
Speaker 1: were wrong. Maybe this was a legitimate series.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was surprised because when Sarah unveiled her new car
Speaker 1: on her Instagram reel, she wrote in the caption again,
Speaker 1: this isn't sponsored. I paid for the car myself and
Speaker 1: have no affiliation with any car brands. Oh so you
Speaker 1: were just out of touch thinking that people wanted to
Speaker 1: see you shop for a luxury car. Wasn't actually a
Speaker 1: sponsoriting Well, I'm still a little bit skeptical because during
Speaker 1: the review video she also said this shout out to Giuseppe.
Speaker 1: You're the man from Audi Sutherland a legend. Giuseppe himself
Speaker 1: also commented on the real writing and honest pleasure. Thanks
Speaker 1: for the mention and God bless you and your family
Speaker 1: enjoy the car, and then she wrote back the big
Speaker 1: dog himself. The dealership where Sarah brought the car also
Speaker 1: got in on the action, commenting glad we could help
Speaker 1: you find the boss mum car you deserve. They then
Speaker 1: reshared the reel to their story and added a link
Speaker 1: to the website with the heading find yours today. Audi's
Speaker 1: official Instagram account also added flame emojis to S's post,
Speaker 1: and she replied, now you can send me to the
Speaker 1: f one when you debut. Monaco, here I come.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a case of the dealership
Speaker 1: and Audi jumping on board trying to get some attention,
Speaker 1: or maybe Sarah got a bit of a discount. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I just think that they're up her ass
Speaker 1: because they've looked at her Instagram account and seen that
Speaker 1: she's got like one point two million followers.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: A follower wrote Audi should be paying for this plug,
Speaker 1: to which Sarah replied, maybe I'll send them an invoice
Speaker 1: and hope for the best. I also noticed in the
Speaker 1: original reel that Sarah showed herself signing the paperwork at
Speaker 1: the dealership to try and push that she did buy
Speaker 1: the car herself. I just don't understand why these luxury
Speaker 1: car brands would actually want to sponsor influencers though, because
Speaker 1: if you think about their following, it's very unlikely that say,
Speaker 1: one of Sarah's twenty five year old followers would then
Speaker 1: go out and purchase one hundred and seventy five thousand
Speaker 1: dollar car. Maybe if you're a brand like Mazda or Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if they convert one person to buying one hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy five thousand dollar car, that's pretty good. I
Speaker 1: just think it would be more beneficial for the more
Speaker 1: normal brands to her, like Mazda and Nissen cars that
Speaker 1: the everyday person can actually afford, as opposed to these
Speaker 1: luxury brands. It just seems so out of reach for
Speaker 1: normal people. And I suppose that's probably why Sarah may
Speaker 1: have not done a deal with a car Brown, because
Speaker 1: potentially she didn't want to drive around in that type
Speaker 1: of car. I mean, she's been very judgmental when it
Speaker 1: comes to Keir Carnival, so my husband would be furious.
Speaker 1: He had been pushing me to buy a Keyer Carnival
Speaker 1: when I was looking, Well, they're not a cheap car either,
Speaker 1: And initially when Sarah launched this series into reviewing cars,
Speaker 1: a lot of people were like, oh, the Keer Carnival,
Speaker 1: and she didn't speak very highly of them. So when
Speaker 1: she finally shared what car she got, someone joked in
Speaker 1: the comment section saying key Carnival is also a seventh seater,
Speaker 1: and Sarah responded saying, the day you catch me driving
Speaker 1: a Kere Carnival, assume I've been cloned or living against
Speaker 1: my free will. Another person also made a joke about
Speaker 1: the Keer Carnival, and someone added a comment saying apparently
Speaker 1: Sarah would rather walk than drive a Keer not fancy enough,
Speaker 1: doesn't screen money, and Sarah responded to that comment saying, Nah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't walk, but I'd rather ride my fat boy
Speaker 1: bike with all three sons on my back. That just
Speaker 1: screams being out of touch, doesn't it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And kay as somebody you own a Kia car a Carnival.
Speaker 1: I love my ki Esportage. It's a great car. I
Speaker 1: think at one like when I bought it was like
Speaker 1: SUV Family Car or twenty twenty three. Look, I don't
Speaker 1: think she's getting the popularity vote by slagging off the Kere,
Speaker 1: which a lot of her followers probably own. Well, that's
Speaker 1: where we're going to leave things today. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for listening and I am so excited to be
Speaker 1: dropping part one of our Tammi Hembro Deep Dive on Friday.
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