1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Obviously you would have heard earlier in the week the 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Mayor of Catherine, Liz Clark. She joined us on the 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: show to talk about alcohol restrictions. Now she wants to 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: see restrictions across in Northern Territory if they are going 5 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: to continue with the min Alla Springs, because I guess 6 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: everybody's quite concerned that if you continue with them in 7 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: Alla Springs, are people going ahead to places like Darwin 8 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: and Catherine to access alcohol. Now, last night, I know 9 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: that ABCTV spoke to leader's intenant KRAI could also raised 10 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: the same concerns. Joining me in the studio right now 11 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: is the Lord Mayor of Darwin, Combat Scarlas. 12 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: Good morning, Cold, Come morning Kit. 13 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: And first of all, I would like to apologize to 14 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 3: their listeners. They're going to listen to me once again, 15 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 3: me and you talking about the same thing that we've 16 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 3: been talking the past year, alcohol and alcohol problems. I 17 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: hate to say I told you so, but we actually 18 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: hear me and you were telling this is going to happen. 19 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 3: It was predictable, and we knew and we said it's 20 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 3: going to happen, and it's happening. And I say, and 21 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 3: I was the first one who raised the issue of 22 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: if you're going to put restrictions in one place in 23 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 3: the territory, you have to consider what will happen. You're 24 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 3: going to have a migration of drunks to other places, 25 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: from Alice Springs to Tennant Creek or even to Catherine. 26 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 3: And okay, that's a bit bigger than those two places. 27 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: But can imagine two hundred drunks descending on Tenna Creek 28 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: or in Katherine. 29 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: What will happen? It is the whole thing is terrible. 30 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 3: The chief means to did the I think putting these 31 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 3: restrictions straight away to Alice Springs to provide a circuit breaker, 32 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 3: But somebody in the fifth floor should be thinking what 33 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 3: happened the day after this one finishes. We have to 34 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 3: have a plan in place, because obviously nobody had a 35 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 3: plan in place when the legislation to prohibit alcoholic communities 36 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 3: came down. 37 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: Well, con I actually wonder whether the decision is going 38 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: to be made for them, whether the Prime Minister is 39 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 1: going to have to step in here and make the 40 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: tough decision for them over the top of things, because 41 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: quite frankly, this has become a national process. 42 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: I will be disappointed. If Canberra make decision for territorians. 43 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: We've got the government, well this come he has to 44 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: stand up and make the descis decision. It's not difficult. 45 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 3: If they ask Chris Burns, who was a minister before. 46 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 3: He knows about al go inside out. But nobody seems 47 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: to want to talk to people with experience. Have they 48 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: spoken to handle, to clear, to anybody who was there before, 49 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: because what did happen? Now we've seen it before and 50 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 3: when we're in government, we took measures. 51 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: Come on, we need to. 52 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: Listen to the to the you know, to the groups 53 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: like you've got Congress, You've got they we just spoke to. 54 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 3: When you've got the person who's in charge of Congress 55 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 3: threatening to leave town because he's scared to live there, guys, alarm. 56 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: Bells would be ringing the fifth floor all the time. 57 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: It's not difficult. Just get real. 58 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: Just put some real restrictions in place. And I have 59 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 3: said how many times you asked me and how many 60 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: times I told you, Let's hit the problem in its roots. 61 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 2: Let's actually restrict supply of alcohol. 62 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 3: There are a lot of little corner stores that survived 63 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: selling alcohol. 64 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 2: Governments should buy the license. End of story. 65 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 4: The thing is gone. 66 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: I mean there's already really strict sort of regulations in 67 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: place for enforced. Well the police do, don't they, you know, 68 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: to make sure. 69 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: That people are anymore well. 70 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 4: You know, look, the two. 71 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: Kilometer rule I think everybody can see is quite fascical 72 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: at this point in time. And as much as the 73 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: government says, oh it's being you know, it is enforced 74 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: and it's still. 75 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 4: In place, all of us can it doesn't take you 76 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 4: much of a big water. 77 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: That means the big companies that can buy wine three 78 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 3: dollars a bottle, sell it for eleven, make an eight 79 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 3: dollar profit. 80 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: Now, why these companies are not forced. 81 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 3: To have liquor inspectors outside their store, proper liquid inspectors. 82 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: You know, the big big retail company, alcohol retail company 83 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: in Darwin has got to not challenge policy. So if 84 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: you walk in and still a bottle of wine, they're 85 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 3: securitors will not challenge, You'll let you go. 86 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: I've seen the security guards actually stop people when they 87 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: have the other the other locations. But look, I you know, 88 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying when it comes to, you know, 89 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: to the restrictions with some of those corner stores and 90 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: things like that. 91 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 4: But I do like to me, I think to. 92 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: Myself, if somebody wants to get their hands on alcohol, 93 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna get their hands on alcohol, whether there's a 94 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: corner store or not. 95 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: Skait, Why doesn't happen down south? 96 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: Why when you go to Melbourne you don't see this 97 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: level of drunkenness on the streets and the second supply 98 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 3: of alcohol. Now I reckon we should have a summit 99 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 3: and not a referendum. We should he have a summit 100 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: with people not from down south, not do goodness people. 101 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 3: They are exposed to the problems in the territory. Have 102 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 3: some of the experts Roll Packer was the one who 103 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 3: spoke to you about it. People they know about alcohol. 104 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: Because cutting alcohol from alcoholics, you're going to create a problem. 105 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 3: Because these people need alcohol to survive day to day. 106 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: They will try to get alcohol. They resort to all 107 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: sorts of things to get their hands into alcohol. Let's 108 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: have looking CLP many years ago. 109 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: They make a decision. 110 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: If your code out drunk for three or four times, 111 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: you go and locked in. 112 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: For fourteen days alcoholism was you were there, you had 113 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: a holiday, fully paid holiday for fourteen days, came out 114 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: with an account full of money from welfare. 115 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 3: First thing you did when to liquor store because there 116 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: was no support. They weren't support for the peop where 117 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 3: they came out. 118 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 4: So what do you reckon we need to do rehab? 119 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: Who should I actually look at these people? 120 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 3: How not only lock them away, but how can you 121 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 3: support to get out of the addiction? Another and another example, 122 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 3: why do you have to have access to alcohol? Take 123 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 3: away alcohol from ten am to the NPM restrictly said 124 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 3: the time of sale. 125 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: You've actually raised that before, But Conn, I do want 126 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: to ask you, do you think that we need to 127 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: be in a situation here If we've got our spring 128 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: set Mondays and Tuesdays or alcohol take away alcohol free days, 129 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: should that be right across the border around the Northern Territory. 130 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 3: I believe so, because otherwise you're going to see an 131 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,119 Speaker 3: influx of drunks in Darwin and in Catherine and Attennant Creek, 132 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 3: and I'll be spending all our time cleaning up broken 133 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 3: glass and having to address fighting inside. I mean, there 134 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: was another issiudent yesterday in Willis in the city. I 135 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 3: don't go to Wilis anymore. 136 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: In the city. 137 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: Well, I was like even yesterday my goddaughter who's fourteen 138 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: years old, was abuse spy drunk at one o'clock in 139 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: the afternoon in the city. 140 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 3: But to me that is perhaps, and I know they're 141 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: going to go, oh my god, up in the fifth floor. 142 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: Perhaps being drunk in a public place is an offense, 143 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 3: But you don't go to prison. You go to a 144 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: special place that actually you taught some skills too, not 145 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: only being they enjoying three meals a day, air conditioned shower, 146 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: but you do something for you with yourself so you 147 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: don't get bored. 148 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: So con if it was up to you right now, 149 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: for you know, for Darwin, you think we need to 150 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: have a summers You think that those alcohol restrictions you 151 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: need to come right across so big. 152 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: I mean, look, we talk about alcohol, does anybody talk 153 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: about the victim of alcohol. All these kids in Alice 154 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 3: Springs are out there because parents are absolutely pissed. They 155 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 3: can't look after them. And these kids say feel safer 156 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: at the streets at home. Do we talk about the 157 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: women they're beaten up because their partner's bloody drunk. The 158 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: kids have been neglected, the kids that are left without foot, 159 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: These are the real victims. Okay, there's still the story 160 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: of terrible. I agree with you, But think about how 161 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: many kids are actually going to bed hungry or don't 162 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 3: even go to bed, don't go to school. How many 163 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: women bitter are because of alcohol. We need a summit 164 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: because this is a territory emergency. 165 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing, you know, at the moment, 166 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: we're all talking about Alice Springs, and rightly so, there 167 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: is a crisis going on in Alice Springs right now, 168 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: but there is also serious issues right around the northern territory, 169 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: right across the top end. Indeed, here in Darwin, you 170 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: and I have spoken nearly every week of last year 171 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: about issues with crime, about issues with antisocial behavior, about 172 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: issues with you know, with alcohol. There needs to be 173 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: some really serious change and there's got to be some 174 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: really serious discussions and action. 175 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: And we need to look into ourselves. When you've got 176 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 3: counsel a little in Alice Springs and indigenous men who 177 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 3: comes out and call about his own community to get 178 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: control of the situation. So the digital community themselves know 179 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: they've got a problem and they're calling out now to 180 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: sit around and oh yeah, okay, we'll stop selling alcohol. 181 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: Mad on Tuesday and then what are we doing after that? 182 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 4: Con Rob has messaged through. 183 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: He's wondering why should he be impacted by grog restrictions 184 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: if he wants grog to go fishing on a certain day. 185 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: Rob, I know what you mean. 186 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: However, nothing stops you buying your alcohol the day before 187 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: or the day after. If we're going to actually solve 188 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: the problem, we probably have to do some sacrifice. I'm 189 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 3: quite happy to go to buy my alcohol the day 190 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: before and not heavy in alcohol buying alcohol one day 191 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: if we're not going to see less drunks in the streets, 192 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 3: less violence, and less problems. 193 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: Corn, are you worried at this point that we're going 194 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: to see an influx of people into Darwin? Are you 195 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: concerned as the mayor of Darwin that we're going to 196 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: see an influx of people. 197 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: In the past few months, we've seen it continuous. 198 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 3: As a migration of people from communities to dow for 199 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: various reasons. We even see people coming from communities they 200 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: sell alcohol because they want to hear real alcohol rather 201 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 3: than mid strength. We've seen people sitting in the street 202 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: paying about five hundred dollars a bottle for a bottle 203 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: of bandy because there's second supply. Don't tell me you 204 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 3: can't stop second supply. If you don't stop second supply, 205 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 3: might as well get rid of the VideA. 206 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 2: You've got a really good tool you can use. 207 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 3: But they've got the excuse about privacy or not the 208 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: government mainly public servants. And I said, bullshit. If you 209 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 3: break the law, you don't have the entirement of privacy. 210 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: Use the DA effectively make it work for us. Make 211 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 3: the liquor industry that sells alcohol makes a lot of 212 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 3: money to pay for their own inspectors rather than the 213 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: tax base pay for it. Restrict the sale of alcohol. 214 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: If you go to Canada, you go to liquor store. 215 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: That liquor store owned by the government. So there are 216 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 3: strict controls in Canada. Oh well, well, I don't look, 217 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 3: I don't have a problem. It's like the farmacy owned 218 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: by the government. So we don't sell drugs illegal drugs. 219 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 3: Not that I said the pharmacies do it. But sometimes 220 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: we have to have some thinking outside the square. 221 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 2: It's a good idea. 222 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: Before I let you go this morning, we have been 223 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: content to buy a couple of people earlier in the 224 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: week about shuttle buses for cruise ships. 225 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: So why. 226 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 3: That's actually controlled by the crew the cruise industry itself. 227 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 2: They organized them, they hire them. 228 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: There was initially lately that they decided not to pay 229 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 3: for these three buses, so they didn't happen. However, Casino 230 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 3: Shopping Square decided to have their own buses took the 231 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 3: people to cas Areina. That means the CBD missed out 232 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: on a lot of the people that were going to 233 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 3: go around the CBD buying things. It's something unfortunately the 234 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: cruise industry themselves organized. We like to encourage them to 235 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: continue to do so, and certainly would like them to 236 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 3: do so, but it's their commercial decision. 237 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: You have lost for the CB data I did to 238 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: not have people walking through there. 239 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: And that's what I said. 240 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 3: I mean, come on, guys, you come to down to 241 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 3: see down when you take them the shopping center, is 242 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 3: that what you're going to show about that we. 243 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 5: Well, who knows well might industry to shop the shopping 244 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 5: center or Caserina's much smarter than some our people in 245 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 5: the association, Going Darwin, I think we're should step up, 246 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 5: all of us. 247 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: I can't see it's your fault. No, No, let's all 248 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: work together to sory Doe Well. 249 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: Convat Scarlus, the Lord Mayor of Darwin, it is good 250 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: to have you back in the studio for twenty twenty three. 251 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 3: Apollows for the winds again. But the problem we'll face 252 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 3: at the moment, it's such a critical problem. 253 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: We have to discuss it just very quickly on this summit. 254 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: How soon do you want it to happen and do 255 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: you want it to be for all of the Northern territory. 256 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 2: If I was a Schief Minister, I was you conted yesterday. 257 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 4: Convat Scarlets, thank you for your time this morning.