1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: This is Outspoken. The podcast is not afraid to say 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: exactly what you're thinking. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 2: Our names are. 4 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: Amy Kate and Sophie Torba. We're identical triplets, but we 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: often don't have identical opinions, so sometimes things can get heated. 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: Outspoken covers all things reality TV, influencers, entertainment, and issues 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 1: facing women. That is so fetched. 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 3: Thank you. 9 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: I really feel like Tim Tams needs to reconsider who 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: is coming up with their flavors at the moment, because 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: last week I was at the checkout minding my own business. 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: I had a podcast in headphones in and the checkout 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: girl taps me on the shoulder at the self service 14 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: and says, do you want these free Tim Tams? And 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, why not? You like, are they 16 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: double coated or because they were you pop them up 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: on Instagram. They look disgusting. Yeah, so I just took 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: them and then I looked down and realized that they 19 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: were dark chocolate and chili yuck. Yeah. I put them 20 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: up on Instagram and a few people people were saying, Oh, 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: don't knock them till you try them. But I just 22 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: don't like hot food, so I don't mind dark chocolate. 23 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: I bit into it, I'm like, oh, it's okay, and 24 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: then like a punch to the face of heat, my 25 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: mouth was just burning. On the topic of weird food combinations, 26 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: I feel like every family has their own strange combination 27 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: that they think is normal until they eat it in 28 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: front of someone else. And for our family, it is 29 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: crisps with ice cream. Why are you calling them crisps? Well, 30 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: because I feel like if you say chips, people think 31 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: that they are hot chips. Yeah, everyone's going to try 32 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: this one because it's the combination of the sweet and 33 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: the salty which makes them so delicious. 34 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to have them with plain chips, like 35 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: thin chips. 36 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. You can't go some you can't go all out 37 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: there and get a weird flavor. It has to be plain. Hm. 38 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,559 Speaker 1: I was actually watching this video from YouTuber Jed Barker 39 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: and he was trying out people's weird food combinations, and 40 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: it was really interesting because the only food combination that 41 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: he liked was natella with cheese in a sandwich, and. 42 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: I could actually, I could actually see how this could 43 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: taste good. 44 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: But you love natlla though, I feel like just flatintella 45 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: on anything and it tastes good. I mean, I do 46 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: love cheese and I love Natella, so I feel like 47 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: maybe I shouldn't complain. 48 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: Was it melted or was it cold? 49 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: It was just like a cheese slice. 50 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: Oh that's weird. 51 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: But if you think about it, when you have a 52 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: cheese platter and you have that Quintce. 53 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: Paste which is sweet, it tastes good together. That is true. 54 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: Do you know one thing I keep seeing popping up 55 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: on my YouTube and Instagram feed is smoothies with coliflower 56 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: in them, And to me, that just makes me want 57 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: to vomit. I feel like that's the fitness influencer starter kit, 58 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: just throwing coliflower into a blender of some sort. Well, 59 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: it annoys me because I see these amazing looking recipes. 60 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 2: I think it was like a choc mince movie. I'm like, yeah, I'm. 61 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: All about that, And then I had coliflower in it. 62 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm not doing that. 63 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: It's like when you see the brownies that have vegetables 64 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: in it. Talking about weird food, I know this isn't 65 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: a combination, but Ree seems to like to put tomato 66 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: sauce on everything. I've never got the sauce thing. Personally, 67 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: I do not like tomato sauce. I think the only 68 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: place for tomato sauce is with chips and nothing else. 69 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: What about a pie like bakery goods? 70 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm wrong there bakery goods, But I'm not the sort 71 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: of person I'm gonna put it on a bloody soup 72 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: like Reese does. Do you know what I hate when 73 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: people put mayonnaise on salad? Reese also does that, and 74 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, that is I got so many calories in it? 75 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: It defeats the purpose of the zalad it does. I'd 76 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: love to hear everyone else's food combos. We'll start a 77 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: thread in our Facebook community, which is outspoken the podcast 78 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: community it might be wild, and try some of these out. 79 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: If they are vegetarian. It just gives me an excuse 80 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: to buy some Nteller and cheese. Yeah, I think we 81 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: need to try that one first, definitely. 82 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 3: And God, you're here? 83 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: Where have you been? 84 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: Bitch? 85 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: Where have your bloody bean? Just before we get into 86 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: the main topic, I've better mentioned the fact that Amy 87 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: isn't actually here again today. This is the third time 88 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: in two weeks that she hasn't been involved, so she's 89 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: on notice. Do you reckon? In the album artwork where 90 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: should just put a big cross over it face or 91 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: just take a new peek of us to go. 92 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: Couldn't we just crop her. 93 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: Out like that she is on the end. That could 94 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: work out well. I think if she's not back by Friday, 95 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: we either start looking for a new co host or 96 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: it's just you and I. Yeah, I think that works. Yeah. 97 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: Were you silent or were you silenced? 98 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: It's the interview that rocked the Palace last Monday night. 99 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: Megan Michael and Prince Harry shed explosive allegations of racism, 100 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: emotional neglect, and bullying. Since the interview dropped, generations have 101 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: been divided, shock jocks have been sacked, and the Queen 102 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: has issued a statement. Before we get into the fall 103 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: at Kate, what did you think of the interview? 104 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: I absolutely loved it. 105 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: I was a little bit concerned before it aired that 106 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: it might not go into too much detail. I thought 107 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: maybe they might beat up a few things. However, it 108 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: really did not disappoint. I really didn't think they were 109 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: going to divulge as much as they did, and I 110 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: didn't think that Harry would play such a vocal part 111 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: in the interview as well, because you could really tell 112 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: he was really disappointed in his family and angry. Yeah, 113 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: exactly right. I really loved hearing from Harry. As you said, 114 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: it was amazing to hear such insight into the Royal family. 115 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: And I suppose the last time that's actually happened was 116 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety five with Princess Diana, and we were 117 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: only six years old, So it almost felt exciting to 118 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: be a part of history and the making as these 119 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: explosive allegations came out, which I think will really change 120 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: the Royal family forever. Yeah, as you say, it really 121 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: did feel like a very momentous time in history, and 122 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: particularly because they were touching on such important matters like 123 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: race and mental health. And I feel like it's so 124 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: interesting when you do look back at Princess Diana and 125 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: the legacy she has left. She was so brave in 126 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: the first place for coming out and speaking about mental 127 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: health at that time when it was something that was 128 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: looked on in a different light, and that I think 129 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: is what is so disappointing about some of the fallout 130 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: from this interview is the fact that people have questioned 131 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: whether Meghan Markle really was suicidal during that time, and 132 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: I just think that is just such a disgusting reflection 133 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: on society. I thought we'd moved past all of that. 134 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: You look at the huge statistics that are coming out 135 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: on suicide at the moment, and all of the work 136 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: we've done to make it people feel comfortable to speak 137 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: about how they're feeling. And anyone who was going through 138 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 1: mental health struggles and sees this, they're going to say, 139 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be believed if I come out 140 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: and say something. 141 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: It is very worrying. 142 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: Suicide is the leading cause of death for people in 143 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: Australia under the age of forty five. And I personally 144 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: have been touched by suicide in my life. One of 145 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 1: my close friends took his own life. So I felt 146 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: very very protective of Meghan when she started speaking about this. 147 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: And as Harry pointed out, Princess Diana when she spoke 148 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: about the fact that she tried to take her own life, 149 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: had no one there. And I really love that Harry 150 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: was there for Meghan, And it seems like the history 151 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: with Diana was a really big motivator for Harry to 152 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: be there for his wife. I mean, we heard him 153 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 1: take a few digs in his dad for not being 154 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: there for his and I can completely understand where he 155 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: is coming from. Yeah, that part of the interview where 156 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: Harry spoke about his mother and how difficult it would 157 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: have been for her to be on her own, that 158 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: really struck a chord with me, because, as I've mentioned 159 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: on the podcast before, I'm a huge Princess Diana Admiral 160 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: and I've watched so many documentaries about her life and 161 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: i just think that Harry is clearly so affected by 162 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: what's happened to his mother. But it's opened up his 163 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: eyes in a really great way because he's seen what 164 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: has happened, He's seen what a terrible, terrible role model 165 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: his father has been in regards to his treatment of women, 166 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: and he has just come out to be the best husband. 167 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: He really is. 168 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: And Karl Stefanovic made a really interesting point on one 169 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: of the Channel nine Royal wrap up shows and he 170 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: said that Harry, as a kid, felt this enormous need 171 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: that he wanted to protect his mum, and obviously he 172 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: couldn't do that, so he went through a lot as 173 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: a child and he now has that desire to protect 174 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: his wife and he's done that and instead of being applauded, 175 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: he then had to face all this scrutiny. Meghan's had 176 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: to face all this scrutiny, and I'm so glad that 177 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: they have actually been able to finally come out and 178 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: share their story. And it's really annoyed me because a 179 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: lot of people are like, oh, should they have shared 180 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: this story? Like what do they get from it? And 181 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: it's like, how can you ask that question? Can you 182 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: imagine being a thirty five year old woman who is 183 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: actually a famous actress, who has been independent her whole life, 184 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: and then suddenly her voice is taken away from her. 185 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: I think it is disgusting that we then blame this driven, intelligent, 186 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: successful woman for wanting to speak out about what has 187 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: happened to her. She has suffered racial slurs from the 188 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: press and allegedly from the royal family. She has experienced 189 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: huge mental anguish and has not afforded any help. I 190 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: feel like she has every right to set the record straight. 191 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: On what has happened to her. 192 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: One line that really stood out to me in Meghan's 193 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: interview was she said, I've always been outspoken, especially women's rights, 194 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: and that's the sad irony. 195 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 2: Of the last four years. 196 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: I've advocated for so long for women to use their voice, 197 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: and then I was silent. I really loved that quote, 198 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: and I particularly also enjoyed Megan's reference to the Little Mermaid. 199 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: So she said that the movie came on at Frogmore Cottage, 200 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: so she started watching, but she started to draw parallels 201 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: to the story and her own life. So the Little 202 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: Mermaid famously had to give up her voice in order 203 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: to marry the prince. However, in the end she got 204 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: her voice back, and I think that was such a 205 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: powerful way of explaining it. I know some people thought 206 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: it was cringe, but I got she was down my 207 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,079 Speaker 1: spine when I heard that. 208 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 2: So did I. 209 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: Actually, I thought it was so powerful as well, because 210 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: as little girls, we all grew up reading those books 211 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: and glamorizing the life of a princess or the life 212 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: of someone with status and power, and at the end 213 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: of the day, the grass isn't always greener. On the 214 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: other side, it shows just how important it is to 215 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: speak out, and it's much more important to have your 216 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: voice and something to say rather than just be this 217 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: fairy tale princess. That's really got me thinking about how 218 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: a lot of people were complaining about the fact that 219 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: Meghan and Harry are living in a fourteen million dollar 220 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: mansion and for some reason that prevents them from saying 221 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: anything or complaining about anything, because I feel like there 222 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: are not many people that would actually want to be 223 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: born into the royal family. Personally, I think that would 224 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: be my idea of hell. The other critique I didn't 225 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: like was people saying that, oh, they've left England because 226 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: they don't want media scrutiny and attention. The reason they 227 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: have spoken out is because they have literally not commented 228 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: on this once and they are so sick of the narrative, 229 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: the false narrative being out there about them. And a 230 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: journalist from the Daily Telegraph she summed it up really well. 231 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 1: She said that Harry and Meghan speaking out is actually 232 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: the ultimate act of courage. After years of having to 233 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: stay silent, Harry and Meghan have chosen to share their 234 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: side of the story, and, as millennial as it sounds, 235 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: speak their truth, much like Princess Diana, claiming control of 236 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: their narrative and accepting the heavy consequences that comes with it. 237 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: And I just think that that is so powerful because 238 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: it would not be easy for Prince Harry to look 239 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: as though he is turning his back on his family. 240 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: He has grown up pretty much institutionalized from the firm. 241 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: It would be so tough for him to say anything 242 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: negative about his family and the reality of living as 243 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: a royal. Yeah, and all these people are saying, oh, well, 244 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: they decided to take a step back from the royal 245 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: family because they don't want to be involved in all 246 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: the media. Did you actually listen to the interview? Because 247 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: they said that their whole stepping back thing was not 248 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: actually their choice in terms of how it was portrayed 249 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: to the public. They simply wanted to move to another 250 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: country amongst the Commonwealth and start to do activities away 251 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: from the UK. That doesn't necessarily mean that they were 252 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: decided to go quiet and never to be seen again. 253 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: And this is what I don't understand. They have so 254 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: many so called pr experts around them. Couldn't one of 255 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: them see that Megan joining the royal family was literally 256 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: the breath of fresh air they needed. It was a 257 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: way to show that they would diverse, a way that 258 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: they could actually be relatable to a younger generation of 259 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: people as well as people of color, and prove that 260 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: long overdue diversity has actually hit the UK. And they 261 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: had such fanfare around them when they got engaged, everyone 262 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: loved it. They were the number one Royals, which seems, 263 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: according to Harry, to have been an issue because there 264 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: seems to be jealousy arising from that. Oh I love 265 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: that because I feel like now a lot of millennials 266 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: and gen zetter Is, because they have watched the Crown, 267 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: we can perfectly see what it was like when Diana 268 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: went to Australia and just how immature and jealous Prince 269 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: Charles was. Yeah, it's actually pretty sad that they seemed 270 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: to care so much about their public persona. Yet, as 271 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: you said, they had the perfect pr opportunity, but they've 272 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: created an absolute pr disaster that could spell massive issues 273 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: for the Commonwealth. I feel like we should move on 274 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: to the those serious allegations that were leveled at the 275 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: Royal family during this interview, and that was of course 276 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: to do with race. So Meghan and Harry alleged that 277 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: a senior member of the Royal family said they were 278 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: concerned about how dark their son Archie's skin might be. 279 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: I feel like Oprah's reaction was everyone's reaction, every normal 280 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: person's reaction, to be like what I personally couldn't wait 281 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: for the interview to air that Monday night, So I 282 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 1: was keeping a look at the articles that were coming 283 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: out of the US, and to be honest, I was 284 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: really shocked that these allegations came out, not because I 285 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: don't believe they didn't happen, but I was surprised that 286 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: Harry would feel comfortable to reveal that because we've all 287 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: heard what Prince Philip has said during interviews and his 288 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: little indiscretions along the way. Well, it is interesting that 289 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: Prince Harry came out and told Oprah that if she 290 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: was asked to reiterate that it actually wasn't Prince Philip 291 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: or the Queen that made those comments. And that really 292 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: does narrow it down to who in the family it 293 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: is because the only other senior Prince Charles, Prince William 294 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: is Camilla considered a senior royal I don't I don't know, 295 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: and Princess Kate. Out of those four, you would assume 296 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: it would be Prince Charles. The thing that I found 297 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: really strange during the interview was Prince Harry and Meghan's 298 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: unwavering support to the Queen. She is the head of 299 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: the firm, she is the head of the royal family there. 300 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: Surely she has some say in what's happening there at 301 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: the moment. Surely she's not just being led by these 302 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: advisors the whole time. Yeah, but it's tough when it's family. 303 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean, who doesn't like their grandparents? Like grandparents are 304 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: the best. Also, the queen is extremely popular, so at 305 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: the moment, there's a lot of talk about countries leaving 306 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: the Commonwealth Australia becoming a republic, but I don't see 307 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: that happening while the Queen is still in power. She 308 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: think it's just because Prince Harry has been so institutionalized 309 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: by the firm, as they put it, that he kind 310 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: of feels like he can't go against her at all, 311 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: but he can blame other people beneath her. Yeah. But 312 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: if you think about your own relationship with your f 313 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: who do you normally get angry with your grandparents or 314 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: your parents? Like your grandparents are the best people, They're 315 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: always spoiling you, And I feel like the Queen would 316 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: be no different. I mean, on the Crown she did 317 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: get portrayed, as you know, not being very close with 318 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: her children, But I feel like even if you're not 319 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: close with your children, you always seem to go the 320 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: extra mile for your grandchildren. Back to Megan, I find 321 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: it so troubling that in twenty twenty one, people are 322 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: still finding it difficult to believe women of color when 323 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: they come out and talk about racism and mental health. 324 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they have such a long history of exclusion. 325 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: You only have to look at the Queen's cousins. They 326 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: are such a great example, and we saw it in 327 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: the Crown. The Queen's cousins were sent away for being 328 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: disabled and this is their own bloodline that they're sending away. 329 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: They pretended that they were dead and none of the 330 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: family members even went and visited them. Yeah, that was 331 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: absolutely shocking. And what I just find so disappointing in 332 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: this day and age that it is so clear that 333 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: the mere suggestion of black jeans entering the bloodstream of 334 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: the royal family has just sent the country into chaos. Well, ultimately, 335 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: there is no possible way for the King of England 336 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: or the Queen of England to be black. The monarchy 337 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: has been set up in that way, so any question 338 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: about the monarchy not being racist is kind of laughable. Well, 339 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: I mean, we just even had to look at the 340 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: fact that Meghan and Harry revealed that Archie was not 341 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: offered a title or protection. It's bloody disgusting. I mean, 342 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: there has been some speculation that Meghan might not have 343 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: got the facts right, and that about one hundred years ago, 344 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: the king brought in a tradition to kind of cap 345 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: the amount of senior royals and that once Prince Charles 346 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: became king, then Archie would have become a prince. But 347 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: I feel like everyone's grabbing its straws and trying to 348 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: take everything Meghan and Harry said out of context to 349 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: kind of prove that they're liars, and it's like, I 350 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: think they know how the royal family works. Maybe Archie 351 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: was never going to be a prince or it'd be 352 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: interesting to see when Prince Charles finally does come king, 353 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: because I don't think it will be too long. I mean, 354 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: you just have to look at the Queen's age. I 355 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: know that sounds really awful and morbid to say, but 356 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: it could be a number of years we might find 357 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 1: out whether he is a prince or not. That's true, 358 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 1: and I think it's only a matter of time once 359 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: Prince Charles becomes king that we see a lot of 360 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: countries leaving the Commonwealth because no one likes Prince Charles. 361 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: Can they just skip him? He's an absolute dickad I know, well, 362 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: it sounds like Prince William's not a lot better. Maybe 363 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: Harry should be king. I think Princess Diana actually came 364 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: out and said that she thought, out of her two boys, 365 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: Harry would make the best king. And I suppose that's 366 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: the most annoying part of this whole ridiculous monarchy. It's 367 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: not based on your talent or ability, it's based on 368 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: your bloodline and when you were born. And it's pretty 369 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: ridiculous that an Australian can't. 370 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: Be head of state. 371 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: We have to be dictated by an ancient royal family 372 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 1: that only their children they're first born, can be head 373 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: of our country. 374 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: How fucking ridiculous. 375 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: I feel like we should get into the response from 376 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: the royal family. It took them thirty six hours to 377 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: put out a formal statement. Can you just imagine what 378 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: it would have been like in that media room. I mean, 379 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: I've had to put out awkward statements before about basketball 380 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: and netball. I can't imagine having to help the Queen 381 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: write this statement. I feel like every single word would 382 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: have been analyzed to the nth degree. So for those 383 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: who haven't heard the statement, it said the whole family 384 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: is saddened to learn the full extent of how challenging 385 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: the last few years have been for Harry and Meghan. 386 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: The issues raised, particularly that of race, are concerning. While 387 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: some recollections may vary, they are taken very seriously and 388 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: will be addressed by the family privately. Harry, Meghan and 389 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: Archie will always be much love family members. Despite it 390 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: being a very short statement, you can read into it 391 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,719 Speaker 1: a lot. Firstly, did you notice that Harry, Meghan and 392 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: Archie didn't have any titles attached to their name. Usually 393 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: it's like the Dutchess of Sussex, you know, it's just 394 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 1: they've used their first names. Yeah, it's kind of indicating 395 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: that they may be looking to strip them of any 396 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: royal titles they have at the moment, and also putting 397 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: them at arm's length. Exactly right, and more importantly, the 398 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: Queen made no reference to the allegations Meghan brought up 399 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: about her not receiving any help over her mental health 400 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: issues and the fact that they said they're going to 401 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: be dealing with the race issues internally, hang on, last week, 402 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: you're publicly investigating Megan being a bully, However you're going 403 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 1: to keep it in house that one of your family 404 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: members is racist? Sorry? What? I also didn't like the 405 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: way that they said While some recollections may vary, because 406 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: they are then putting a narrative that Megan is a liar, 407 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: and this is a narrative that the media and people 408 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: who don't like her are eating up. Overall, I think 409 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: to the untrained eye it would have looked like quite 410 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: a good statement. However, there's a lot going on underneath 411 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: the surface, the connotation that the allegations alies. There's no 412 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: follow up, so it's not like we're going to do 413 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: this and give you a statement after. 414 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 2: It's like, this is it. 415 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: This is all we're getting from them on this topic forever. 416 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: The fact that they haven't even acknowledged Megan Markle's struggles 417 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: with mental health in this statement is shocking to me. 418 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: Suicide and mental health, particularly in the UK right now, 419 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: is one of their biggest issues. Can you imagine the 420 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: suicide rates that are happening in the UK at the 421 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: moment because of the lockdown in place, And we've got 422 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: to remember this institution has a lot of employees, a 423 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: lot of family members, and it's very worrying that one 424 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: of the senior members of that royal family was refused 425 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: help for their mental illness. What about the people working there? 426 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: Like that is an actual HR problem. Well, she went 427 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: to HR and she was told that she couldn't get 428 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: any help because she wasn't an official employee. Yet HR 429 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: is taking the bullying claims against her, So seriously, what 430 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: an absolute joke. And talking about absolute jokes, I feel 431 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: like we can't not talk about Piers Morgan. Now for 432 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: those lucky enough not to know who he is. He 433 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: is an English journalist, a bit like a Kyle Sandalan's 434 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: type shock jock, i'd say, except that he's on morning TV. Yeah, 435 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: he's on Good Morning Britain and he launched a scathing 436 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: attack on Meghan, saying he didn't believe she was suicidal. 437 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: He also labeled Meghan a liar, and at this point 438 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: one of his co hosts butted in and accused him 439 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: of trashing Meghan only because she cut him off. Now, 440 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,239 Speaker 1: Morgan then stormed off set and subsequently has left the 441 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: ITV show. So a lot of people are saying well, 442 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: what's this all about? Meghan Markle cutting Piers Morgan off? Like, 443 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: was there a friendship beforehand? Yeah? I found this so fascinating. 444 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: So apparently Peers followed Meghan on Twitter and she sent 445 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: him a direct message that apparently read, well, hello there, 446 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: thanks for the follow big fan of yours. Well, to 447 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: put this into context, this was years ago when she 448 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: was on Suit. Yeah, well apparently. Then over the next 449 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,719 Speaker 1: eighteen months they sent a lot of emails back and 450 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: forth about different suits storylines before they met at a 451 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: local pub in Kensington in June twenty sixteen, and according 452 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: to Peers, that same night, Meghan then met up with 453 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: Prince Harry at a private members club and then since 454 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: then they have never spoken. Does he really think that 455 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: Prince Harry is going to allow his new girlfriend to 456 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: have a friendship with a well known shit stirring tabloid journalist. 457 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: It is so evident that he is so bothered that 458 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: she is ghosted him, and he also seems really bothered 459 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: that she is now more important than him. He's just 460 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: a bloody dickhead and he's continuing to write off Megan's coattails. 461 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: He continues to bag her out to make himself relevant 462 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: and I'm glad ITV decided to get rid of him. Unfortunately, though, 463 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: their ratings have dropped a considerable amount since he's left 464 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: the show, and there's a petition to get him back. 465 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're talking about more fallouts. Prince William 466 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 1: did address the issue briefly. He was asked by a 467 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: reporter when he was out visiting a school in London 468 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: whether the Royal family is racist. He replied, We're very 469 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: much not a racist family. Unfortunately, Prince Charles couldn't seem 470 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: to actually muster an answer because he was asked if 471 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: he watched the interview, and all he was able to 472 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 1: do was nervously laugh and walk away. It was a 473 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 1: great time for him to be wearing a mask because 474 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: he could kind of fob it off without seeing too 475 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: much of a reaction. I mean, he did have an 476 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: awkward laugh, as you said, but you can't really read 477 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: his expression on his face with a mask. I say 478 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: that he didn't muster up an answer, but I do 479 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: actually feel quite sympathetic for them, in the sense that 480 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: they wouldn't be allowed to say anything at the moment. 481 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: Oh no, I mean I was surprised that Prince William 482 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: actually said something. Well, apparently Kate Middleton was sending some 483 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: sort of cryptic messages during a video for International Women's Day. Yeah, 484 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: this story reminded me very much so of Britney Spears's 485 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: cryptic messages that people think she's sending through Instagram. So 486 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: someone pointed out that Kate was wearing some one hundred 487 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: and fifty four dollar earrings from brand Mizzimo, which is 488 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 1: apparently one of Meghan's favorite brands, and according to this article, 489 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: the drop earrings are made of a heart based healing 490 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: crystal that radiates love, compassion, and all round good vibes. 491 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: Is this not the biggest load of shit you've ever heard? 492 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: I think they are completely clutching at straws there with 493 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: that one. Well, there was also an article written about 494 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: Meghan Markle's outfit and apparently a lot of people on 495 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: Twitter were saying that it looked like a bird had 496 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: pooed on her dress and I didn't even notice it 497 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: until Reese pointed it out. She loved the fact that 498 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: she's saying something so important yet we will have to 499 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: focus on what she's bloody wearing. Why actually find it 500 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: quite interesting because she was wearing a four seven hundred 501 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: dollar Armani dress, and what people thought was bird pooh 502 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: was actually lotus flowers. Now, the lotus flower symbolizes rebirth, purity, enlightenment, 503 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: and self regulation, and a spokesperson for Meghan actually came 504 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: out and said, yes, she was aware of the meaning 505 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: behind the print, and the spokesperson said, the Duchess understands 506 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 1: that a lotus seed can withstand thousands of years without water, 507 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: able to germinate over two centuries later. 508 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 2: That's so deep. 509 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: Well. A lot of people also drew the comparison between 510 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: in her outfit and an outfit that Wallace Simpson wore, 511 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: So Waller Simpson is, of course the American actress whom 512 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: King Edward adicated the throne for. When I heard this, 513 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, right, and then I googled 514 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: it and the dresses were pretty similar. 515 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: People are clearly. 516 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: Watching this very closely because they also noticed that Meghan 517 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: was wearing a bracelet from Princess Diana, and I just thought. 518 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 2: That was such a lovely touch. 519 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that it was so symbolic. And I 520 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: suppose what's really stood out following this interview is the 521 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: huge generational divide of opinions when it has come to 522 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: Meghan and Harry. I was really shocked that anyone could 523 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: be anti Meghan after watching the interview I had. She 524 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: was going down my spine when she was talking. I 525 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: really felt for her and Harry. However, a lot of 526 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: the older generation seemed to think that it was very 527 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: tacky of them to do this interview and that they 528 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: think they've really gone out there to destroy the reputation 529 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: of the royal family. Yeah. Were in the UK in particular, 530 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: their opinions were really split a long age and political line. 531 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: So taking a look at the Youth Gov survey, thirty 532 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: six percent of British residents said they sympathized more with 533 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: the Queen and the royal family, while twenty two percent 534 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: said they sympathized more with Harry and Meghan. And when 535 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: you look at the breakdown of age, forty eight percent 536 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: of eighteen to twenty four year old sympathized with Meghan 537 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: and Harry, while only nine percent over sixty five sided 538 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: with the couple. Yeah, I think it's very indicative of 539 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: the conversations I've then had with older people on the topic, 540 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: and also comments that I've been seeing online. And just 541 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: to wrap this conversation up, I really wanted to finish 542 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: with this quote by a journalist from the Daily Telegraph. 543 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: She said, in the same way that Diana was so 544 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: widely admired by women of her generation who related to 545 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: her relationship and mental health struggles, Meghan will always find 546 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: support in her own generation, particularly from women of color 547 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: who know what it's like to face racist comments. That 548 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: white people often can't recognize strong women who were labeled 549 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: as bullies for being assertive. And above all, any woman 550 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: who has ever had to carve out her own happy ending. 551 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 3: I think every strong woman in histories had to walk 552 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 3: down a similar power, and I think this is the 553 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 3: strength that causes a confusion an affair. 554 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: Why is she strong? 555 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: Where does she get it from, where is she taking it? 556 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 3: Where is she going to use it? Why do the 557 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: public still support her? 558 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: Let's get into the influencer wrap and Sophie Sarah's Day 559 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: has announced some changes to her wedding. That's right before 560 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: we go into them, I feel like we've got to 561 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: make sure we're all on the same page. So Sarah 562 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: uploaded a video two weeks ago where she was showing 563 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 1: her wedding trials in Byron Bay, so they were staying 564 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: at Elements Resort where they're supposed to be holding their wedding. 565 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: So we saw Sarah get hair and makeup trials. We 566 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 1: saw them vlogging in the resort saying, I can't believe 567 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: next time we're here, we're going to be married. Plot twist, 568 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: and we were left on this cliffhanger because she said 569 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 1: after filming the last scene, everything has subsequently changed and 570 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: she was going to fill us in on a full 571 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: new blog. Now that vlog took a couple of weeks, 572 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: and in between that, there was a lot of drama 573 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: on Salty's Day, which is essentially a hate page that 574 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: now has been taken down about Sarah, and as we 575 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 1: touched upon on our podcast episode, this page went out 576 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: of its way to ruin Sarah's wedding. So they shared 577 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: an electronic invite with all the private personal details about 578 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 1: the wedding, including the date, the venue, the location. So 579 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: now that we've all caught up, we can talk about 580 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: what actually has changed in Sarah's wedding. So in the 581 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: recent video, which was a really old school Q and 582 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: A with Kurt, which I actually really enjoyed, the video. 583 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: I feel like they haven't done one like this for 584 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, it was pretty good. What threw me though, 585 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: was that Sarah decided to wear a sheet mask for 586 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: the majority of the interview. I'm like, I can't take 587 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: her seriously wearing that. No, I was glad she took 588 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: it off anyway. So in the video, Sarah revealed that 589 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: they're basically having to plan their wedding from scratch, and 590 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: this made me feel sick inside, like this is one 591 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: of those nightmare situations. They are only two months out 592 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: from the wedding and they're having to plan everything again. 593 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: Surely you push it back. I mean so many people 594 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: have pushed their weddings. 595 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: Back with COVID. 596 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: Well, I feel like she was really care in what 597 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: she said, because obviously they didn't want to look like 598 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: they were bagging out Elements in any way. So she 599 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: explained that they were originally planning to get married in 600 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: the Elements outdoor venue across from the beach, but for 601 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: some reason she didn't go into why. For some reason, 602 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: they don't offer this outside facility anymore, so instead they 603 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: were then going to do planned b and hold it 604 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: inside a function space where a lot of conferences and 605 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: meetings are held. So basically she was saying that they 606 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: would have to really dress the place up with drapery 607 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: and flowers. So they had a few quotes from contractors, 608 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: and they got those quotes when they were in Byron Bay, 609 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: and basically it was going to cost them three times 610 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: what they thought for their wedding. I hate to think 611 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: what that is because I would assume Curt and Sarah 612 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: would have quite a bit of coin and to think 613 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: that it was three times out of their budgets pretty crazy. 614 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: Or they had to also preface that they had spoken 615 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 1: to the team at Elements and they all were on 616 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: the same page that it was very expensive to achieve 617 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: the vision they wanted. So they are going to get 618 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: married at an undisclosed venue at the same time and 619 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: the same date. 620 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 2: Though, what I find. 621 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: Crazy is that you would go to Byron Bay and 622 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: then not have your wedding outside, Like it doesn't really 623 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: make sense that they would have had their wedding at 624 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: a conference center. 625 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 2: That doesn't sound like that at all. 626 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: On the topic of Sara's day, I feel like we 627 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: have to touch on her new White Fox boutique campaign. Yeah, 628 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 1: this was very different from what we've seen from Sarah. 629 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: She seems to have embraced a lot of the feedback 630 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: that she's got on board because her campaign. 631 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 2: Was very inclusive. 632 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, she held a competition to find people to 633 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: feature in the video, which is quite different to what 634 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: she usually does do. Usually it's her and two models 635 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: that she's in some beautiful location with. Yeah, it was 636 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: interesting to see this unfold on social media and then 637 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: the end product. The video was very long, I've got 638 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 1: to say, but the messaging was on point and it 639 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: was very what she should have done a long time ago. Yeah. 640 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: I thought the video was great. 641 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: If you look at it with no context, it was 642 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: a really great message that all women are beautiful. I 643 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: do think it just felt a little bit awkward because 644 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: of the controversy. Yeah, it was awkward, and I feel 645 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: bad saying that because I think everyone should have the 646 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: opportunity to improve and be able to learn from their mistakes, 647 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: and I think that this was a great sign that 648 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: she is learning. However, you couldn't help but feel like 649 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: it was a little bit tokenistick and awkward. Yeah. It 650 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: has been critiqued for being quite performative. Yeah, but I 651 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: think she is in a difficult position because if she 652 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: just goes back to using size six, tall, white blonde models, 653 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: she's going to be slammed again. So I feel like 654 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: she's in this really tricky place of not quite knowing 655 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: what to do. But Yeah, even just on a point, 656 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: because I feel like we always touch on Sarah, we 657 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: don't touch on the brand because at the end of 658 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: the day, White Fox Boutique, this is their clothing line. 659 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: So I find it a little bit hypocritical of White 660 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: Fox Boutique because they put out this video which is 661 00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: really championing being beautiful in your own skin and being inclusive. 662 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,719 Speaker 1: Yet this week they've held another influencer event in Byron 663 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: Bay and there are no different sizes on the trip. Yeah, 664 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: clicked on their story and was very much taken Aback. 665 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: I just can't believe these brands continue not to include 666 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: size diversity on their brand trips. It's just utterly confusing 667 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: because the women who were featured on the video, they're 668 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: everyday women who wear the cloth, who wear the clothes, 669 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: So where are they seeing themselves on this trip? Who 670 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: is like them on the trip? And also, I'm sure 671 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: those influencers have not paid for the trip. They've obviously 672 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: got it for free. They've been extremely spoiled. They've got 673 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: lavish accommodation, you know, an abundance of beautiful food. 674 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 2: Probably free clothes. 675 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: What did the girls that appeared in the White Fox 676 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: Sarah's Day campaign get just the chance of being on 677 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: the video yet? Why isn't that the prize. That would 678 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: be a great prize. Let's send them on the trip 679 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: exactly and people would love it. I would love to 680 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: see it. And plus then you can get a chance 681 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: of seeing what the clothes look like on everyday people 682 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: just putting it out there, White Fox Bouge, if you 683 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: do need a new pr team, send Hula Media your way. 684 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: I know, I think they need a name change as well. Well. 685 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: Moving on and Danny Mancuiti's most recent Instagram posts, I've 686 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: got a lot of people talking. Yeah. Well, now that 687 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: she's back in Australia, she seems to be putting out 688 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: content that is quite philosophical and deep. So, I mean, 689 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: I read this quote she put out and I was like, Wow, 690 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: that was really clever and well put together. I was 691 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: later alerted to the fact that it was a quote 692 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: from someone else. She did credit them anyway, So the 693 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: crux of her post was basically saying that she believes 694 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: Instagram is dying and she's so done and bored with 695 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: the perfection that it perpetuates on there. She also said 696 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: that she's drawn to more unfiltered and authentic content like 697 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: that on podcasts and tiktoks. She also said that this 698 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: year has taught her that there's so much more to 699 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: life than screens and what we're looking at right now. 700 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: It's a very strange statement for an influencer who makes 701 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: their money from a platform like Instagram to put out 702 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: there into the world. Well. Yeah. Another part of the 703 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: quote was you were so much more magical than these 704 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: social media platforms make you feel. And I feel like 705 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: influencers need to have some responsibility for the way that 706 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: they make other people feel. I feel like a lot 707 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: of them talk about, oh, just do a social media detox, 708 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: so sometimes I feel down from other people. I'm sorry. 709 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, I feel like some 710 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 2: of these. 711 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: Influencers really are responsible for the way that they do 712 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: make people feel. Well. Danny Mansuti hasn't been shy about 713 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,439 Speaker 1: promoting her plastic surgery. I mean just recently she got 714 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: breast implants during the lockdown, and while of course it 715 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: is her decision whether she gets surgery, it doesn't actually 716 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,479 Speaker 1: lessen the effect it has on young people because young 717 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 1: people see this beautiful girl on Instagram that still doesn't 718 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: think she's good enough, and then she is going and 719 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: getting plastic surgery to kind of fill that void. It 720 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: is so weird too, because her feed is so curated 721 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: as well. I mean, why not it be much more 722 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: powerful if you put that up and instead of a 723 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: pretty picture of the sunset, we had a picture that 724 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: was real raw, honest, I just I just found the 725 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: whole thing a little bit perplexing. 726 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 2: It was well. 727 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: Moving on to another OG influencer, and Zoela and her 728 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: boyfriend Alfie have announced their expecting their first baby together. 729 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 1: Now they have been a couple for over nine years 730 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: and I feel like they are the OG YouTube couple. 731 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 1: Did you know that they actually met because Zoela lined 732 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: up to meet him at a meet and greet, so 733 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: he was a YouTuber at the time as well. No, 734 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. Yeah, that's wild. Also, Zoela announced 735 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: that she is three months pregnant and they both revealed 736 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 1: that they are having a baby girl, which is due 737 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: in September. She said that at first she was convinced 738 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: she was having a boy because she kept dreaming about 739 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: her future son, but they then found out that it 740 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: was a girl. It seems like there's a lot of 741 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: UK influencers falling pregnant. I I really feel like the 742 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: Lockdown has a lot to answer for. They did in 743 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: the video that they have been trying for a baby, 744 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: and this led fans to come up with the hypothesis 745 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: that maybe they've secretly got married in Lockdown as well. 746 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: I love how people have so much time and their 747 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: hands to come up with this shit. The thing that 748 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: I thought really came through in the video was that 749 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: they were clearly so excited and grateful to be having 750 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: a baby. And it was really interesting because Zoela was 751 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: sharing about the fact that she doesn't actually have a 752 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: bump yet, so they thought by the time that they 753 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: film the video, they'd be able to be like, here's 754 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 1: my bump. But because she's so pritite, she's not yet showing. 755 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: And the doctor said, you're not gonna pop for a 756 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: while now, so just tell them that's right. Well, she 757 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 1: actually hasn't put out a video for two months, so 758 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: she said that she found it really difficult to vlog 759 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: because she felt like she was keeping a secret from everyone, 760 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: so she apologized profusely for not putting content out there. 761 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: She also explained that she's been feeling really exhausted and 762 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 1: the pregnancy has been quite difficult on her. What I 763 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: love though it was this was such a good advert 764 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: for Sprite. She said that Sprite has literally been her 765 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: savior for three months now because it's been giving her 766 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: that sugar booster be able to do things. They're gonna 767 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: come out of the woodwork and offer her responsorship now. 768 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: I feel what was really interesting in this video was 769 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: we got a glimpse of what it's like behind the scenes. 770 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: So they showed the moments before clicking post on their 771 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: baby and now it's on a really grand post, and 772 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: they both looked so nervous, like Soela's hand was shaking 773 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: before they put it up. And they got one point 774 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: nine million likes on this post and forty eight thousand comments. 775 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: I have been keeping up to date with el Darby's 776 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: pregnancy cravings and it is so hard watching her videos 777 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 1: and seeing her eating all this delicious food when you're 778 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 1: not pregnant, because you're like, well, I probably shouldn't be 779 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: having that. I love because she said she's never been 780 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 1: so ravenous in her life, and I feel like she 781 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: has been really enjoying herself, which I love. And she 782 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,280 Speaker 1: said that she doesn't really want the experience of pregnancy 783 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: to end. She's been enjoying it that much. She They 784 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: do sound so excited to meet their son. It's pretty cute. 785 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: I think they will be wonderful parents. Yeah, it's going 786 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: to be interesting to see. Well, I'm quite ravenous, So 787 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna wrap things up now because I'm 788 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: planning my McDonald's takeaway order in my head as I 789 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: drive home. Thank you so much for joining us. 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