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Speaker 3: Appy, everybody, It's time for Jonesy.

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Speaker 2: Have amountain's cutting room for everybody.

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Speaker 3: It's time for Jonesy and a man that's cutting room for.

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Speaker 2: On the cutting room floor today.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember the first time you had to pay

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Speaker 3: an electrical bill or any sort of services bill.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I moved in with a flatmate, my first flatmate, and

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Speaker 1: we were renting a television and I think an answering machine, right,

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Speaker 1: and I it was my job that month to send

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Speaker 1: the money off. And I sent cash in the mail

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Speaker 1: and a man knocks at the door and says, you

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Speaker 1: haven't paid, so I sent it off. I'd sent cash

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Speaker 1: in the mountains the post office.

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Speaker 4: Nick.

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Speaker 2: Did you know how did you get to this age?

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Speaker 2: You decide?

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Speaker 4: But I was. I was, you know, twenty one.

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Speaker 2: I would love to hear that voicemail on the answering.

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Speaker 4: Machine if someone came and knocked at the door.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what they used to do. You hire purchase stuff,

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Speaker 3: remember those days. These days the kids just get TVs

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Speaker 3: because they're so cheap, But in the old days quite expensive.

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Speaker 2: I always remember those bills.

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Speaker 3: I remember my mum and dad paying bills and then

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Speaker 3: thinking how do you do that?

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Speaker 2: How do you even work it out?

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Speaker 1: But you know, when people talk about balancing a check book,

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Speaker 1: I still don't know what that means.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad I'm not the only one. I don't know

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Speaker 4: what it means.

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Speaker 1: It means you've got enough to go out, Yeah, to

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Speaker 1: match up what comes in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course. Are you so what you're supposed to do?

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Speaker 3: When you wrote your check on the stub, you wrote

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Speaker 3: what it was for, and then you'd balance what's in

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Speaker 3: your account. So I'd write what's in the stub, I'd

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Speaker 3: send the check out, and I just write another check,

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Speaker 3: and I wouldn't actually balance it.

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Speaker 2: I just kept writing check. Yeah, of course, and all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden I'd be overdrawn. I wrote, I wrote it.

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Speaker 2: I wrote it down, wrote it. That's what I was

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Speaker 2: told to do.

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Speaker 4: I wrote it down.

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Speaker 2: And you know, my maths, it's it's not really good.

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Speaker 3: There is now in the University of Canada Adulting one

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Speaker 3: oh one course for students looking to learn life's most

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Speaker 3: basic time.

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Speaker 1: We should have that in schools. You know, my friend

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Speaker 1: Anita McGregor. She teaches at UNI and she has this

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Speaker 1: thing doesn't matter. She has staff that don't know how

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Speaker 1: to post letters, she has stuff they don't, don't have

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Speaker 1: skills to answer a telephone. And these are post grad students,

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Speaker 1: but these are things that matter to us.

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Speaker 4: Does it matter to them? Do you have?

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Speaker 1: Like this is a debate you and I would have.

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Speaker 1: Does it matter that I don't know how to change

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Speaker 3: I don't think about you so much not being able

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Speaker 3: to change a tire, but it's very handy in your life.

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Speaker 2: To change a tire.

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Speaker 1: These days of outsourcing, our skill sets are different, and

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Speaker 1: people of our generation think you have to know all

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Speaker 1: that practical stuff and we think you're missing out on

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Speaker 1: life skills if you don't. But with a changing world

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Speaker 1: where you can get other people to do these things

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Speaker 1: for you and you use your time elsewhere, do you

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Speaker 1: have to know this stuff? What are they teaching in

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Speaker 3: Well, you can learn how to change a tire, managing

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Speaker 3: your finances, grocery shopping, keeping your laundry whites white. Really yeah,

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Speaker 3: things like that, how to sew, how to cook, how

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Speaker 3: to not set yourself on fire.

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Speaker 2: It's actually a class don't set yourself on fire.

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Speaker 4: What do you think.

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Speaker 1: Oh, look, you're a practical person and it matters to you.

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Speaker 1: You often say the young people don't know anything, so

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter to me.

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Speaker 3: But I made myself. As I've said before, Generation X

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Speaker 3: is a very capable generation. So it's not here we go.

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Speaker 3: So the generation Baby Boomers had the war and they

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Speaker 3: Baby Boomer men. The Generation X people, we came along.

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Speaker 3: We said, we don't want the harshness that our fathers

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Speaker 2: So we became very capable.

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Speaker 3: So at the same time, we could change tires, we

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Speaker 3: could wire up an extension cord, we could do all

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Speaker 3: that stuff, and we could be present.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But how then do you feel because you're then the

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Speaker 1: courmudgeons who who don't like that the next generation down

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Speaker 1: I don't do anything.

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Speaker 3: Only Generation X are Courmudgeons. Our generation just go okay, mate,

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Speaker 3: oldest fix it.

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Speaker 1: But you're sneery. Your generation, by and large is sneery

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Speaker 1: at the capabilities of the next one down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because they have no capabilities.

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Speaker 1: But does it matter because they do have capabilities, Well,

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Speaker 1: they have different capabilities.

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Speaker 3: Unless you sound like someone's mother, it's true though, But yeah, they.

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Speaker 4: Have They navigate the world.

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Speaker 1: They navigate a world that you don't have to navigate,

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Speaker 1: and they have a different skill set.

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Speaker 3: Our generation runs rings around them as far as just

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Speaker 3: getting stuffed.

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Speaker 4: Done and then you need you son to fix the TV.

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Speaker 2: No, well I fixed himself. He's got no idea. But

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Speaker 2: I've adapt to you to technology like amphibious man. That's

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Speaker 2: what Generation X do.

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Speaker 3: And people that listen to this from Generation X know

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Speaker 3: exactly what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: You know, we didn't have phones.

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Speaker 3: If you've got a flat tire, you had to change

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Speaker 3: the tire yourself.

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Speaker 2: No one, of course she did. You could. Now, of

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Speaker 2: course you.

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Speaker 1: Did, and because weathers two, you need to today.

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Speaker 2: Because they got phones.

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Speaker 3: So really, if they didn't have connectivity that they have now,

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Speaker 3: they would probably be capable.

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Speaker 2: But because sure, as like.

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Speaker 3: The weaving, loom and the meal, all those things made

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Speaker 3: things easier in our lives, a mobile phone makes life

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Speaker 3: ten times more easy.

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Speaker 2: You remember when you were a kid, you go and

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Speaker 2: look for your mates. You couldn't find them anywhere.

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Speaker 3: You'd ride your pushbike, and it's the only way you

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Speaker 3: could tell if your mates around, if their pushbikes are

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Speaker 3: in front of another mate's house.

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Speaker 2: And then you look at the kids.

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Speaker 3: Now riding all those fat boy e bike things around,

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Speaker 3: Like I saw this big fat kid riding this big

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Speaker 3: fat bike and I'm on my normal pushbike that I

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Speaker 3: got off a junk pile.

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Speaker 2: Off your son.

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Speaker 3: He's riding along, wheezing away on a big e bike

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Speaker 3: and I gave next to him, and he obviously goes

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Speaker 3: quicker than me because he's propelled by the technology.

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Speaker 2: But I'm thinking, what's he used to ride bikes without him.

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Speaker 1: E bike in She is navigating a world you don't

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Speaker 1: have to. There's much more traffic now. He is facing

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Speaker 1: a future of having to marry an AI bot. They

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Speaker 1: will have a different environment and a different life to us,

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Speaker 1: and we can't see it through the prism of us,

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Speaker 1: or we will never accept them.

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Speaker 2: It's a hard luck life, isn't it for those kids?

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Speaker 1: I love that you're so capable. You've irritated me. Now

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Speaker 1: let's end this.

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Speaker 2: I'm as capable as anything.

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Speaker 4: Make me cup a teen.

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Speaker 3: You want something done, you get a generation exit to

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Speaker 3: do it.

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Speaker 1: Matt's twenty five plus eight. So call your son. I'll

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Speaker 1: call your son.

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Speaker 2: Well he won't answer, is phane. I need to to

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Speaker 2: prove some sort of point by you. You don't even

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Speaker 2: know what twenty five times out.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not banging on about how brilliant I am

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Speaker 1: and no one else is.

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Speaker 2: I never said the words I'm brilliant.

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Speaker 3: I just said Generation X is a very capable generation.

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Speaker 3: Why you get a better out of shape, you're part

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Speaker 1: I don't like this generational talk because I think it

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Speaker 1: means the older generation and the younger generation, because they

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Speaker 1: look at you and think you're an old fart, and

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Speaker 1: you look at them and think they're idiots.

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Speaker 4: And somewhere in the midst of that the reality life.

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Speaker 3: We were raised with corporal punishment, lead paint, asbestos, no

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Speaker 3: helmets for pushbikes. Pushbikes I didn't have motors in them.

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Speaker 2: Were raised it.

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Speaker 1: All use boring trope in the world, and kids today

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Speaker 1: are in a very different world that is very hard

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Speaker 1: to navigate. Go and lick your paint, Brendan, when you

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Speaker 1: get home and enjoy yourself.

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Speaker 2: Let's have an appelathon for them. Actually that probably is okay.

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Speaker 2: Kids that's it for today. Come back tomorrow for Marve

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Speaker 2: Jonesy and Amanda's cutting room flow.