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Speaker 1: As we spoke about the possibility of this jetty at

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Speaker 1: each point, we know that they have your say. Website

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Speaker 1: is now open where you can jump on there and

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Speaker 1: let the government know what you think, because the governments

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Speaker 1: with nineteen point eight million dollars going towards well it's

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Speaker 1: in the top end, and that consultations opened on a

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Speaker 1: new proposed fishing JETTI at Dudley Point. Now joining us

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Speaker 1: on the line is our vance representative and owner of

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Speaker 1: Fishing and Outdoor World, Ronald Vuglosk. Good morning to you, Ronald.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Katie.

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Speaker 1: How are we very good mate? You would know more

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Speaker 1: than most where people like to go fishing and is

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Speaker 1: there a real demand for that land based fishing.

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Speaker 2: Oh. Look, we we are a lot of people in

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Speaker 2: and have a fish, So we've got lots of areas

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Speaker 2: to go. You know Rock Points, you know, Columbay, Rock Wall,

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Speaker 2: both the big tides that we have, even the relatively

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Speaker 2: shallow foreshore. So this presents an opportunity for some real

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Speaker 2: like another high quality land based fishing option, you know,

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Speaker 2: some real opportunities how to tangle with you know, during

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Speaker 2: even some long tail tuna that might you know, that

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Speaker 2: identifying suitable locations, and you know the one that was

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Speaker 2: definitely the Cherry on the Top was you know, would

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Speaker 2: great opportunity.

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Speaker 1: It's such a beautiful area. You know, I've said it

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Speaker 1: do you reckon that's rather than the Dudley Point Tip

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Speaker 1: whether it be better around sort of a bit further near

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Speaker 1: the rock sitters, I don't know, And I guess some

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Speaker 2: I think, well that that is generally the premu spot,

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Speaker 2: you know, and I'm showing people seeing a couple of

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Speaker 2: But I guess for me, you know of a way.

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Speaker 2: I love that unspoilt nature of each point and such

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Speaker 2: a great location. I mean, we all remember the Huha

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Speaker 2: sort of said, no, we want to keep this sort

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Speaker 2: there's that marine, that fish protection zone, the closed area

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Speaker 2: just to the to the left of the main big

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Speaker 2: it's a marrying up of it's the best of the

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Speaker 2: both worlds. It sort of keeps the front of East Point.

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Speaker 2: There's sort of I guess unspoilt while offering that sort

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Speaker 1: Know, to anybody listening, that's kind of going this morning,

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Speaker 1: Oh you know, I like, don't spoil ease point. Like

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Speaker 1: ideally the jetty really like we're not talking about a

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Speaker 2: Well, we see what happens with nightcliff there around people

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Speaker 2: high quality fishing opportunity, the land based opportunity for all abilities.

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Speaker 2: It's not it's not something that's gonna you know, I

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Speaker 2: the nature of the tides here it does make all

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Speaker 1: And look, there's some people getting in contact with us asking,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, from my understanding, I don't think we've

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Speaker 2: let's let's not lose this opportunity. And you know, it's

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Speaker 2: So that's I think that's where the rest will sort

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, you know, to me when we spoke about

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Speaker 1: others quite concerned saying that East Point is such a beautiful,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is that that mixed bag me myself, you

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Speaker 2: But just on the way that the council and government

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Speaker 2: I just yeah, I just think it's an opportunity. You know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love that. That's the way I'm kind

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. That's you know I've got you know,

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Speaker 2: Like anything that increases that opportunity while being a lot

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Speaker 2: your pros and cons each point. It's a beautiful place.

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Speaker 2: And as I said, you know, you know you're not

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Speaker 2: all that that view as you get to the end

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Speaker 2: it'll enhance it and just and it'll be great. It's

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Speaker 2: there's some really some good deep water access, which is

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Speaker 2: something we don't have. And there'll be some genuine I reckon,

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Speaker 2: off there, or a big mangrave jack or something a

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Speaker 2: little bit of featured on the Catchure the Day or

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Speaker 2: nine News or something like that. Little bit. It'll be

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Speaker 2: good and then we'll be gone. How good that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, Ronald lovely to speak with you this morning.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you having your chat with us, and

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Speaker 1: and yeah, we'll wait and hear what everyone thinks. Good on,

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Speaker 1: You're Ronald lovely to talk to you. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you again soon.

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Speaker 2: Thanks mate, good, thank you, thank you. Sa