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Speaker 2: It's Layers.

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Speaker 3: We're in a long distance friendship that started twenty years

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Speaker 2: We'll be talking all things life, love, family, anything and

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Speaker 3: What what is that?

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Speaker 4: No, thanks so much for having me. And I hope

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Speaker 5: But you can only do that by.

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Speaker 4: You know, greatness costs what it costs. You know, if

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Speaker 5: That's how much it cost. You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: We feel that we are. We are big supporters of

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Speaker 3: And I think you speak, you spoke of something which

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Speaker 4: So I'm studying and I'm doing an NBA right now

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Speaker 4: own thing, and you know, we need to accept that.

439
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Speaker 4: So what I'll say is that how we need to

440
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Speaker 4: support the industry is money. The biggest myth that I

441
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 4: was taught, that I was told that young children are told,

442
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Speaker 4: is that you don't need money, all you need is

443
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Speaker 4: a good idea. That's nonsense, there's no such that's absolute hogwash,

444
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Speaker 4: And I want to debump that right away. People say

445
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Speaker 4: that you know you you create wealth. That's also nonsense.

446
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 4: You can't create wealth. All you're doing is using the

447
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 4: money that's there and using it to make more money.

448
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Speaker 5: Yeah. So when I say that, what we.

449
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Speaker 4: Need to do is we need to throw figures, We

450
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Speaker 4: need to throw proper investment into the industry. What I

451
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 4: mean is that, look, if you invest, you can't expect

452
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Speaker 4: to make a million dollars from a movie if you've

453
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Speaker 4: only invested two thousand dollars.

454
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Speaker 5: It just doesn't make sense.

455
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Speaker 4: It's just you know, I mean, you can't say to me,

456
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Speaker 4: I want to support the odds and all you've done

457
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 4: is you paid me five dollars, you bought one DVD,

458
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 4: or you're saying, no, I want to sponsor your filmunia.

459
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Speaker 4: But what I'll do is I will sponsor the catering,

460
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Speaker 4: you know. And it's like, you know, the budget is

461
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 4: two hundred thousand and you're giving me a grand thank you,

462
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 4: But we'll never get there if unless we throw some

463
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Speaker 4: serious money at it. You know, in the developed world,

464
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 4: I mean places like the States, these guys throw millions,

465
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Speaker 4: millions of dollars at projects. And it's not because they

466
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 4: know that the millions are going to come back. It

467
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Speaker 4: doesn't always come back from that one project. But you know,

468
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Speaker 4: if you do it two or three times, the fourth

469
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Speaker 4: one will make you a billion, do you know what

470
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Speaker 4: I mean? And that's the kind of way we need

471
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Speaker 4: to think. We need to think that Okay, it's bigger

472
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Speaker 4: than just okay, I need ten thousand to make my

473
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Speaker 4: little film. Rather give me ten million to make a

474
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Speaker 4: hundred films over the next ten years.

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Speaker 5: Yes, you know what I mean? Something like what career?

476
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Speaker 5: Did you know? The South Rein film industry, that's a

477
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 5: brilliant model to look at. You know.

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Speaker 4: The government just woke up and said one day that look,

479
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Speaker 4: you know what, we're going to invest in these guys.

480
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Speaker 5: You know, we're going to make sure that this industry grows.

481
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Speaker 4: And they threw millions at it and they said, look,

482
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Speaker 4: it's not going to happen now, but ten years, excuse me,

483
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Speaker 4: ten years from.

484
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Speaker 5: Now, it will.

485
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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I mean, you speak bars, you spat the bars.

486
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Speaker 3: Why shall we since am I allowed to say that?

487
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Speaker 3: But for me, I think it's the idea of coming

488
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Speaker 3: together because what you're saying is then be like, I

489
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: want to invest in your film, I want to support,

490
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Speaker 3: I want to but I feel like we have a

491
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Speaker 3: mindset a little bit of like you're on your own

492
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Speaker 3: or like it's working out for me, good luck to you,

493
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 3: you know, all the best, if that makes sense. So, yeah,

494
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Speaker 3: there's a community aspect of it.

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Speaker 5: All that means definitely.

496
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Speaker 4: So you know what, we've actually set up one to

497
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 4: set up a film fund. We're not a film fund. Yeah,

498
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 4: so it's a film fund, but we want to do

499
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Speaker 4: it properly where we want to set up like a

500
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 4: it's actually going to be like a financial It's actually

501
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 4: going to be like a financial financial institution where we

502
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 4: raise money from the public, but the model is slightly different.

503
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Speaker 4: We'll raise money based on the films that people want

504
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 4: to see. So if Amanda says, look, I want to

505
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,120
Speaker 4: see a film about I want to see a film

506
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 4: about pit holes, and I want to see a film

507
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 4: about you know, how Peter survived the liberation struggle, she

508
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 4: would put in a ten thousand dollars and then we'll

509
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 4: try and find would find another ten grand from other

510
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 4: people who are like minded. But that money goes into

511
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 4: a into a fund, almost like a pension fund, where

512
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 4: the funds themselves are managed so that they never run out,

513
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 4: they never you know, you know.

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Speaker 5: So it's it's you know what we're thinking beyond just

515
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Speaker 5: one movie.

516
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Speaker 4: You know, you're thinking, you're thinking ten movies, you're thinking

517
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 4: building studios, you're thinking of training and building training facilities.

518
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Speaker 5: So we need to think a lot bigger than just

519
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 5: the next problem. You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, we completely agree with you and we're

521
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: completely for it. Like, so definitely keep us in the

522
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: loop because when we say these things, a lot of

523
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: people do want to do it, but then they don't

524
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Speaker 2: know how. So I think if we bridge that gap

525
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: of okay, I'm here, I'm ready and then how, then

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Speaker 2: it's like it can actually move forward. I think a

527
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: lot of people think, okay, but wait, do I even

528
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: start if I want to support? So what you're talking

529
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: about would be groundbreaking. I really think a lot of Zimbabweans.

530
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Speaker 2: Would you be probably surprised how people would show up

531
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Speaker 2: because I think we're already we just don't know how.

532
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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you so much, And I think just to

533
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 3: wrap up, you know you've dropped a lot of bars

534
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 3: on us here. We were never ready to house right,

535
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 3: have already for this? Uh, if you can share with us,

536
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 3: you know, I love that you shared a very practical

537
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 3: and real way, and we would love to see it

538
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 3: come into fruition, you know, a body coming together. But

539
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: on a personal level, we'd love to hear about any

540
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 3: upcoming projects you're doing. He's just told us you start

541
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: you're studying for an MBA, so I mean already. So

542
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 3: that's a lot. So any current or upcoming projects that

543
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: you want to share with us or something we can

544
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 3: look forward to and where we can keep in touch

545
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 3: with you so that we are aware, you know, when

546
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 3: these projects, these funds, these when things happen. How do

547
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: we stay in touch and keep in the loop so

548
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 3: you know it's not a matter of not knowing.

549
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, look so personally, I'm partial to Instagram. So

550
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 5: I'm on Instagram.

551
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,479
Speaker 4: You know at Munya c people can follow me and

552
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 4: you know, give me a shout. I usually update everything

553
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 4: on there. Yes, currently I run a water logistics company

554
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: called Blue Hippo Water, which is also on Instagram.

555
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 5: And yeah, look we uh so it was weird. I

556
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 5: I I discovered that I love water.

557
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 4: I used to h I used to do rowing at

558
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 4: high school and I was always close to water. It

559
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,479
Speaker 4: might have starting to do my chilter, but yeah, so

560
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 4: there's that. So yeah, people can follow me on Instagram

561
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 4: at mun Ye c or blue Hip or water and yeah,

562
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: right now what I'm working on is that fun in

563
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 4: terms of the arts, yes, and just trying to make

564
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Speaker 4: sure that I finished school and I.

565
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Speaker 5: Get an MBA and I don't you know, here's that

566
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 5: word again. I don't markissa myself.

567
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Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't embarrass myself. Yeah, that's what's

568
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 4: keeping me busy. But I'll definitely let you know about

569
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 4: the fund and how you know, how that's developing, because

570
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 4: we will definitely need your help because you see, you're

571
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 4: part of the You're part of the value chain. You know,

572
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 4: you guys have got your own unique skills that you

573
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 4: can bring to it. You know, you're already creating content,

574
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 4: which means you're ready to have a voice. You already

575
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 4: have a following, and you speak good English you know

576
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 4: what I mean, which is good.

577
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Speaker 3: Why are you like this? No? Thank you? No, thank you?

578
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 3: And absolutely like I think bridging the gap. That's a

579
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 3: very beautiful way for you to to talk about our platform,

580
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: the podcast, which is essentially what it tries to do

581
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 3: bridge the gap between us zimbabwins Zimbabwans at homes, Barbwins

582
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: in the diaspora and also Zimbabweans to other nations of

583
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 3: the world, because it's not just Zimbabweans who are listening.

584
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, thank you so so much for your time.

585
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: It's it's really been insightful and to see you working,

586
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 3: you know, to make real change in our industry because

587
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 3: you know, we we can laugh all we want, but

588
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: the likes of Nollywood Nollywood happened because there was there

589
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 3: were those systems, there was that support, there was that

590
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 3: and if we want to be taken seriously, we need

591
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: to take the capital seriously. Yeah, for sure. Thank you

592
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: so much. Thank you everybody for listening.

593
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you Amanda, thank you guys so much.

594
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: And it's a pleasure faith in me so thank you.

595
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Speaker 3: Take care.

596
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 2: Wow, what an episode. What gems my mind is like,

597
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes you just had to take it all

598
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 2: in like fad. That's one episode we need to go

599
00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 2: back to again and again to really dissect and and

600
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: get into the nitty gritties of how we can do this,

601
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: how's the Babweans can raise our platform. I mean, this

602
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: for us was our love letter to the arts in Zimbabwe.

603
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 2: Rimby spoke about how she, you know, had personal experiences

604
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: of also you know, thinking as a creative how to

605
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: navigate this world, but you live in a traditionalist system.

606
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Speaker 2: So we really want to offer some insight to our listeners,

607
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 2: not only from curiosity, but also perhaps you can get

608
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Speaker 2: some advice on how you could also do it or

609
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: how it's currently being done, and also how you can support.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've got a few friends or like I'm

611
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: not creative and that's aokay. And as Muna kept saying,

612
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: everyone is needed, everyone has their role to play. So

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Speaker 2: there you go. The information is out there. We'll be

614
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: keeping you guys in the loop and as always will

615
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: put all the links for you in the description and

616
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: you'll be obviously any updates will be keeping you guys informed.

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Speaker 2: So stay tuned because this space is going to grow,

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Speaker 2: don't you think For me?

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Speaker 3: I think so one hundred percent. And I think for

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Speaker 3: me the biggest thing is like we've got to be

621
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Speaker 3: our own community. We've got to you know, back each

622
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Speaker 3: other up. And you know, one of the gems also

623
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Speaker 3: that he dropped was like it's sometimes it's not for you.

624
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: You are just the vessel. So I feel like this

625
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 3: podcast not for us, we adjusted it. I'm joking, it's

626
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 3: definitely for us.

627
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Speaker 5: We're just.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I'm like, yeah, I can catch up

629
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Speaker 2: with you exactly.

630
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Speaker 3: I'm joking. But no, honestly, like aman that, I I think,

631
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Speaker 3: what would you say with the highlights of the season

632
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Speaker 3: for you? Or what do you think people were really

633
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: like chewing on from the episode?

634
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 2: If you know, sometimes it's funny because obviously we share

635
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: this content and then when you start discussing with people,

636
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 2: you see how how the layers are really there because

637
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Speaker 2: if you take it housewhere so we appreciate all the comments,

638
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: all the feedback, all the little thoughts and nitty gritty

639
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: people getting into But for me, I think classicism was

640
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: like yes, speaking people were not in Zimbabwe, it was

641
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Speaker 2: like my.

642
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Speaker 3: Opening, like.

643
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: Like I think they were just thinking, yeah.

644
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Speaker 3: They never understood how layered it was, especially people who

645
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: aren't Zimbabwean at all. It was kind of like when

646
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Speaker 3: it works, like that's real and I'm like you.

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Speaker 2: For sure one of the episodes or do you think

648
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Speaker 2: I connected?

649
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 3: I think we really also people connected with the grief

650
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 3: and heartbreak episode in a really big way. I think,

651
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 3: as we said, it's just not spoken about. And you know,

652
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Speaker 3: I feel like people we often talk about the winds,

653
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 3: the good things that you know, but like the things

654
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Speaker 3: that really keep us up at night, we don't really

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Speaker 3: go there. And thank you so much to the people

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Speaker 3: who shared some of their own sotes or felt like

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Speaker 3: they really connected to it and the struggle of navigating

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Speaker 3: grief within the Zimbabwean context. Truly appreciate your time, your thoughts,

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Speaker 3: your your just everything. It really means the world to us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were sending virtual hugs to all of you

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00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 2: because sometimes, yeah, you can be close friends with someone

662
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: and they don't know that part of you. So for

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00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: us to be an avenue for you to express yourself,

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Speaker 2: we are here for it and keep it coming. Just

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Speaker 2: because the season is ending doesn't mean we don't want

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Speaker 2: to hear from you.

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Speaker 5: Sport.

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Speaker 2: I had a lot of funny stories coming through.

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Speaker 5: We want to hear please.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, You's the only way to get through a lot

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Speaker 2: of these things. Sharing. Keep telling us all about it. Wow,

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Speaker 2: Rumby season two, I can't believe it.

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Speaker 5: We did it.

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Speaker 2: We did it, Joe, we did it.

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Speaker 5: Wow. It's insane.

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Speaker 2: I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Room

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Speaker 2: B doing this with you is absolutely amazing. It's so easy.

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Speaker 2: It's it's kind of weird for me because I feel

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Speaker 2: like I'm sharing my friendship with you with the world,

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Speaker 2: because I'm like, this are the things we normally talk about,

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Speaker 2: and sometimes we're talking like listen, it's lated episode like

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Speaker 2: all the time. Yeah, before we never used to think

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Speaker 2: like that, but now that we have a podcast, we're like,

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Speaker 2: this is a slid episode.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.

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00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: I really value our friendship and cannot do this thing

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Speaker 2: called life without you.

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Speaker 3: Man right back at you, like it's the most beautiful

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Speaker 3: gift to have, especially when you know we haven't seen

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Speaker 3: each other in what feels like too too long, And yeah,

691
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 3: such a tree to spend this time with you before

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Speaker 3: we fully fully sign off. Who is our shout out

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Speaker 3: for our very last episode of It's loo.

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Speaker 2: All the sound effects coming from drum roll room, drum roll,

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Speaker 2: drum roll. So our beautiful shout out for this last

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Speaker 2: episode of season two is Black African women roomb like

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Speaker 2: scorted ball and I think you guys do refer it

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Speaker 2: to as ball. So there's a platform for women to

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Speaker 2: be seen, be inspired, be heard, and they're pushing so

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Speaker 2: much amazing content out. It's just like you guys need

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Speaker 2: to check them out, mainly on YouTube obviously, they have

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Speaker 2: an Instagram page as well which will link. Rumby is

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Speaker 2: part of the Beautiful team. So I got to give

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Speaker 2: you your kudos. I can't believe you're doing this and you're

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Speaker 2: doing and just doing everything, and.

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Speaker 7: Thank you for the beautiful, beautiful Yeah, and you might

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Speaker 7: have something special cooking up soon, guys, so definitely stay tuned.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love these ladies. They're doing something that's

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Speaker 2: so needed, so necessary, and they started doing it before

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Speaker 2: it was cool. So you know, all these things came

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Speaker 2: out of Black Lives Matter. These Parnis were working it,

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Speaker 2: they were presenting for us way before. So kudos to

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Speaker 2: you ladies Black African women. Make sure to check them out.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for the love and support and

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Speaker 3: for me, Amanda, you are such a gem. This is

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Speaker 3: honestly something I look forward to, I love to do.

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Speaker 3: And also that were able to bridge, you know, the

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Speaker 3: gap of our friendship and also actually being serious, you know,

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Speaker 3: because we could get on here and just be stupid.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know. So gave us a

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Speaker 2: shout out on the Finance episode, so I had a

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Speaker 2: good job.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at least we tried.

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Speaker 2: Maybe money talks sense we were doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we can talk send sometimes sometimes, so honestly, it's

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Speaker 3: such a such a treat just because we're the season

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00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 3: has come to it end. Please don't stop listening. Replay

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Speaker 3: season one, all the episodes, Season two come back. Please

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Speaker 3: rate and review us on whatever platform you listen. Apple

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Speaker 3: podcasts like us. We're on YouTube for those who don't know,

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Speaker 3: like seriously, like we would really apree everywhere. Share it

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Speaker 3: with your friends, family, cousin, aunt, sister, whoever you know,

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Speaker 3: because we love to see the love. Thank you so

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Speaker 3: much for the love and we look forward to seeing

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Speaker 3: your suit. Take care of yourselves, everybody

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Speaker 2: Take care guys, Love you, Love you by