WEBVTT - The Glory Hole That Has the Whole World Talking

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<v Speaker 1>Life on Cut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose

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<v Speaker 1>elders past and present.

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<v Speaker 2>Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was

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<v Speaker 2>recorded on Drug Wallamuta Land.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life

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<v Speaker 3>on Cut.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Laura, I'm Brittany, and we are here to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you a story. Please please go for Just so you

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<v Speaker 2>guys know the timings of this, because of the live shows,

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<v Speaker 2>we kind of had to move out recording schedules around

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. So normally we record our Tuesday episode,

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<v Speaker 2>which is what this is, on the Monday. We keep

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<v Speaker 2>it fresh, we keep it snappy and up to date.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes relevant, it's what's happening in the world. Unfortunately, we

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<v Speaker 2>had to record this on Friday, so it's a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of days early because on Monday and Tuesday we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be in Canberra and then we're going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in Brisbane doing the very last of the Life on

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<v Speaker 2>Cut live shows. So sad like that's it's gone really quickly,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but also I'm kind of sad that we

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<v Speaker 2>are not doing this episode off the back of the

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<v Speaker 2>high of what would have been last night? Can we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the woman in the front row on the

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<v Speaker 2>Gold Coast and the story she told us that she's

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<v Speaker 2>currently going through with her partner.

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<v Speaker 3>I have not recovered. I've not recovered.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was more just like a general chit chat,

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<v Speaker 1>and she she told us she was having some troubles

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<v Speaker 1>with her partner.

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<v Speaker 2>So I ask a question in the live show, which

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<v Speaker 2>is who here is currently fighting with their partner?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's currently fighting? Now, we always get.

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<v Speaker 1>Fun answers, like, you know, he doesn't pick the kids up,

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't really do much like it's always like random stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and every time there's people who put their hands

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<v Speaker 2>up and sometimes you know, the one girl was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we have incompatible sex lives because she's had

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<v Speaker 2>a baby, doesn't have sex anymore relatable. Now, this woman

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<v Speaker 2>put her hand up and yelled out that she was

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<v Speaker 2>currently fighting with her husband.

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason, we'll shock you. It's all that shocking.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no it is, But it's the aftermath of the

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<v Speaker 1>reason that was the most shocking. So he they're fined

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<v Speaker 1>because he went to balley and got jacked off or

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<v Speaker 1>sucked off, like basically got a very very happy ending

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<v Speaker 1>of sorts whilst they were together, so he cheated on her,

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<v Speaker 1>but she knows about it. But it was the gas

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<v Speaker 1>lighting after when we were like, she just said this

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<v Speaker 1>out loud, right, she stood up in front of the

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<v Speaker 1>whole auditorium and she goes, my husband was when got

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<v Speaker 1>sucked off in Bali and.

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<v Speaker 3>Got a rub and dug, let's not make it worse.

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<v Speaker 3>We ejaculated to.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone else, right, yes, And then we were like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, like, what happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you leave his ass? Where are you at?

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<v Speaker 1>And she said he said the reason he did it

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<v Speaker 1>was because I go to bed at a different time

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<v Speaker 1>to him. So what did she expect to happen because

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<v Speaker 1>we have different sleep schedules that I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>I cannot make this up.

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<v Speaker 1>He blamed him going and getting jacked off by someone

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<v Speaker 1>else on the fact that they go to bed at

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<v Speaker 1>different times.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she said it's but he didn't even ask

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<v Speaker 2>me if I wanted to, so she was still processing

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<v Speaker 2>the black It was actually so, I mean, I know

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<v Speaker 2>that there were people in the audience who thought maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that was the plan.

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<v Speaker 3>That was absolutely not a plant.

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<v Speaker 2>We were as shocked, mortified, horrified as what everybody else

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<v Speaker 2>in there was, and I mean, I feel so sorry

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<v Speaker 2>for it. It's such a fucked thing to try and navigate.

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<v Speaker 2>But also on the flip side of that, she like

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<v Speaker 2>she was having a great time. Oh no, she was

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<v Speaker 2>loving it, had a great time in love.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want anyone to think that this was like

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<v Speaker 3>a real downer. She was just like, yeah, fuck him.

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<v Speaker 3>The whole audience was like, yeah, fuck, it was wild.

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<v Speaker 3>I really hope.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I know that usually we're like, I hope

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<v Speaker 2>that you work it out, but no, off the back

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<v Speaker 2>of that, I was like, I hope that you leave

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<v Speaker 2>his ass.

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<v Speaker 4>No. Do you know?

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<v Speaker 3>It's one thing to cheat, right, but it's another thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I say that like it's okay, you guys know

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<v Speaker 1>my stance and I'm not going to repeat it, But

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<v Speaker 1>that is one thing. It's a whole nother kettle of

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<v Speaker 1>fish to then go and blame the woman on why

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<v Speaker 1>you cheat ith.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, with a lack of accountability. And I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, we've had many conversations around cheating

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<v Speaker 2>and how you can work through it if that's what

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<v Speaker 2>you want, blah blah blah. But you cannot work through

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<v Speaker 2>something if there's no acceptance of fault. You cannot work

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<v Speaker 2>through something if somebody is blaming you for their own actions,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when Yeah, it was so bad, but you know what, look,

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<v Speaker 2>Gold Coast Live Show was amazing. Something happened to me

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<v Speaker 2>just before stepping out on stage, and that was the

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<v Speaker 2>story that was the tall tailor. I was gonna tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>oh what you've forgotten this. It has affected me way

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<v Speaker 2>more than it's affected you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I actually is it worse than me not wearing

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<v Speaker 1>undies with a short dress on?

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<v Speaker 3>Nah, you put undies on. So it was fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing really happened. No, So we were standing in the

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<v Speaker 2>like what do you call it the tea room? The

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<v Speaker 2>tea room backstage? And Matt's at home with the kids,

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<v Speaker 2>so he didn't come with us to the Gold Coast show,

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<v Speaker 2>so he stayed home, didn't come to that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually still trying to think what it's called. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's a tea room. I think it's the

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<v Speaker 1>dressing room. Well, they just put some food in. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the room that had the tea in it. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the champagne, so I get this message from me.

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<v Speaker 1>We're standing at the back. It's like l it's there.

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<v Speaker 1>Mkerrey's there.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole team where like five minutes from going on stage,

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes, Sobabe, I've just realized while the entire

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<v Speaker 2>upstairs smells like shit, like human shit of our house

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<v Speaker 2>that is. And then it dawned on me that the

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<v Speaker 2>night prior, Lola had done a shit in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the night, and I had changed her nappy, rolled

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<v Speaker 2>it up like a burrito and left it sitting on

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<v Speaker 2>the dressing table in your bedroom, in her bedroom, just

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<v Speaker 2>left it there all day, baked in the sun in

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<v Speaker 2>the warmth of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>No, the humidity and the humidity hits different like it

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<v Speaker 1>does like if you pee in Antarctic.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy, it's not the same as if you pooed in

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<v Speaker 3>like Mexico.

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<v Speaker 2>Nah, frozen logs don't hit the same nah anyway. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the poor guy, he was home with the kids and

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<v Speaker 2>a shit in the bedroom and now he hates me

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<v Speaker 2>so he had to clean up. Yeah, but he just

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<v Speaker 2>hates me. Now he's like hell.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, like he loves.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, but he definitely has a bit of a grudge

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment. O, don'tkay, Well, we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Not gonna get let's scoot over that unless you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this the therapy session? Would you like to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about that?

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<v Speaker 4>Or no?

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<v Speaker 3>We can move on from the shit. Okay, well let's

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<v Speaker 3>talk about glory holes.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk to you about a story going

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<v Speaker 1>viral and I'm sure you guys have seen it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to talk about this.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean we talked about it like the

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<v Speaker 1>last two days, non stop, you were frothing this story.

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<v Speaker 3>I am traumatized by this story.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Now this is gone viral on TikTok and it

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<v Speaker 1>is the TikTok story about the glory hole. And I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that's all I need to say. But maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't heard the story.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh if you haven't, you were really missing out. Let

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<v Speaker 3>me tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it is because it's a discussion that you

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<v Speaker 1>will have around a campfire with your friends. You'll be

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to knut this out or don't nut it out.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll be wanting to break this story down and discuss

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<v Speaker 1>it because it's so insane, and then you get into

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<v Speaker 1>these deep like what would you do if you're in

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<v Speaker 1>this situation? But there's a girl called Charlotte Walton who

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<v Speaker 1>we can't be sure if she's the person that received

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<v Speaker 1>this voice note or if she's the person that just

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<v Speaker 1>shared the voice note.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is the story to.

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<v Speaker 4>A story because I'm literally telling everyone it's so horrific.

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<v Speaker 4>So my friend me, who I was with yesterday, she's

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<v Speaker 4>got a mate called Ellie who's in a house share

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<v Speaker 4>in London, and Ellie shares with like a bunch of girls.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the girls was telling her she's just been

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<v Speaker 4>on a hendoo to Amsterdam wherever a stag and the

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<v Speaker 4>hen went at the same time. I think they were

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<v Speaker 4>all just like a mixed social group who kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like knew each other. But then the stag went one

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<v Speaker 4>day and the hen one way, and the hens.

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<v Speaker 3>Went the other.

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<v Speaker 4>And one of the girls on the hendo got super

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<v Speaker 4>drunk and went into one of these booths with like

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<v Speaker 4>a glory hole, and so a girl on the other

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<v Speaker 4>side stuck his dick through. So the girl was just

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<v Speaker 4>drunk and started sucking him off. But it was one

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<v Speaker 4>of these ones apparently where like if like she pushes

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<v Speaker 4>a button and the guy pushes the button on the

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<v Speaker 4>other side, they can kind of see who's on the

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<v Speaker 4>other side. Like it makes it like transparent like a

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<v Speaker 4>window so they can see. And so, being drunk, she

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<v Speaker 4>thought it would be hilarious to push his button just

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<v Speaker 4>to see who she's been sucking off. And so she

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<v Speaker 4>pushes the button and looks up and it's her dad on.

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<v Speaker 3>The other side.

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<v Speaker 4>Apparently, like the hen and the stag do all went

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<v Speaker 4>home early because it was like so traumatic, and the

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<v Speaker 4>girl's fallen out with all her family. The mom's obviously

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<v Speaker 4>found out, and there's like not speaking to the dad,

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's broken up the whole family because this girl

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<v Speaker 4>such of her dad through a gloryhole.

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<v Speaker 3>What the fuck?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't I don't have it in me literally, metaphorically,

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<v Speaker 2>spiritually anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I need therapy, please. My first initial response is, this

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<v Speaker 3>isn't true. I don't know if that's a defense mechanism

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<v Speaker 3>that I've put up. It can't be true. That's a

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<v Speaker 3>coping mechanism. Yes, it's got to be. The odds of

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<v Speaker 3>this happening.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to be a made up story to go

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<v Speaker 1>viral like this is my initial response, because it's so

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<v Speaker 1>viscerally disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what, Like, let's just say it is true.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go with that, Let's lean into the story. Why

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<v Speaker 2>would you tell anyone you take that shit to the

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<v Speaker 2>gray you?

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I mean, I couldn't agree more with this statement.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody wrote this information couldn't be tortured out of me?

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<v Speaker 3>Not ever get me to say that. Also, what is.

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<v Speaker 1>It called when you have to divorce your parents? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>when kids divorce sarate. I would have to separate from

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<v Speaker 1>them forever. I don't think I could emancipate yourself emancipaid.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I could ever. I think I'd have

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<v Speaker 1>to emanipay even though I'm thirty six, And.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think emancpaate myself because I sacked my dad's.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sorry, what's the reason.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to have a great reason why sack dud's

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<v Speaker 1>dick voluntarily?

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<v Speaker 3>Is the real issue here? Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Look, honestly, the only thing I keep coming back to

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<v Speaker 2>is that there is nothing that anyone could ever do

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<v Speaker 2>that would make me admit that that had just happened.

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<v Speaker 3>I am not leaving that glory whole box. I'm walking

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<v Speaker 3>out someone.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not walking out to the party and saying, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, guys, we have to wrap it up because

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<v Speaker 2>daddy's dick was in the hole.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not doing it. I'm going back to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going home, but I'm not telling anyone, And I.

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<v Speaker 1>Reckon you tell someone eventually, even if it was one person,

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<v Speaker 1>Like even if it was me, Like, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think I do?

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<v Speaker 3>How do I handle this? You'd tell one person? What

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<v Speaker 3>would you say your dad afterwards? You don't? You do

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<v Speaker 3>not ever talk to him again? You're amanci baited.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what you would say to your dad

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<v Speaker 1>because you're obviously not gonna in all honesty, if you

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<v Speaker 1>have a normal relationship with your dad before that, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna not ever talk to him again, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you handle it. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be some space, like you have to have you

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<v Speaker 1>have to have some time out surely, and then send

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<v Speaker 1>you questions.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the dad married to your mom?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So did he cheat on your mum with his daughter?

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<v Speaker 3>Like or I'm not. I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry, Please stop. This is why I think

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<v Speaker 1>it can't be real. But I know that people wish

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<v Speaker 1>it was real because it's wild, But I wish it

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<v Speaker 1>was not real.

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<v Speaker 3>I wish it was a tall tale.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it okay, I mean, regardless, if it's a

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<v Speaker 2>tall tale or not. My question is though, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>walking into a room you're really drunk. Fine, I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>People do crazy stuff. There's a penis or a gloryhole,

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, whatever, whoo, I'm on my wild yes year

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<v Speaker 2>of my life. Surely her dad's penis would have been

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<v Speaker 2>an old man's penis, right like a thirty years older,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five years older. Surely she's looking at that going

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<v Speaker 2>even not knowing it's the dad not knowing.

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<v Speaker 3>How to be recognized that looks for million.

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<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I mean is is like, if someone's going

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<v Speaker 2>to stick their penis to a gloryhole, you'd bloody hope

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<v Speaker 2>it's a nice one that you're going to go for.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's like a sad old man penis, are you

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<v Speaker 2>going to really do it?

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<v Speaker 3>But you don't know how old he was.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but I feel like a penis would

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<v Speaker 2>indicate age. Do they not age like every other part

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<v Speaker 2>of the body.

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<v Speaker 4>Nah?

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<v Speaker 3>If that is rock hard, I don't think it gives

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<v Speaker 3>away the age. Maybe flaster that would give away the age.

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<v Speaker 1>But I reckon when it's through a gloryhole, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>tell someone deceptive.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I would love to know that. No, not with

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<v Speaker 2>your dad. I'd love to know this though. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>like dating someone who's significantly older than you, like twenty years,

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<v Speaker 2>there's got to be someone who listened to this podcast

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<v Speaker 2>who's dating someone who's that much older.

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<v Speaker 3>You could just watch porno and have a look. Is

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<v Speaker 3>their penis indicative of their age? Like? Is it saggier?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this skin more sun damaged? I don't know what's

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<v Speaker 3>happening some damaged? Who knows? Surely?

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<v Speaker 2>Surely it looks like an old man penis, in which case,

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<v Speaker 2>not that there's anything wrong. Maybe she likes a bit

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<v Speaker 2>of age play, but like that would be the.

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<v Speaker 3>First thing that would turn me off.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, there's a lot of variables in this story that

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<v Speaker 1>we can't be sure about.

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<v Speaker 3>We can't be sure about the age. We can't be

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<v Speaker 3>sure about the why.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't be sure about if he was married to

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<v Speaker 1>someone else, if they're ever going to speak about it again.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to make our own happy ending in this story.

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<v Speaker 3>I would like to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think there's ever a situation in life where

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<v Speaker 2>you would ever contemplate a glory whole?

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<v Speaker 1>No, you have to be I don't even have to

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<v Speaker 1>contemplate that sentence, like, you don't even have to finish

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<v Speaker 1>that sentence. And I know that it's a hard flaccid No,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a flaccid No, there's nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd have to be in a pretty dark place, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the glory it's dark.

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<v Speaker 1>It's dark if you wouldn't want that down light on

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<v Speaker 1>the hard deck, But the hold old dick down light

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't do it any.

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<v Speaker 3>Need to be in a dimly lit room. No, there

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<v Speaker 3>is nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've tried to think about these over the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days since we've been talking about it. There

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<v Speaker 1>is no circumstance or nothing that would turn me on

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<v Speaker 1>about a gloryhole situation about some random putting his penis

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<v Speaker 1>through a hole. Just seeing a random penis not attached

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<v Speaker 1>to anything floating in the dark doesn't do it for me.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and I appreciate that it doesn't do it for you,

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<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't do it for me either. I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to establish that before I go in and dipreend people. No,

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<v Speaker 2>but I understand why. For some people it's the naughtiness

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<v Speaker 2>that gets them off right. It's the kink of the unknown.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it has to be a kink. It exists

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<v Speaker 2>for a reason, and like, obviously at this place that

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<v Speaker 2>they were at, it wasn't just like a glory hole

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<v Speaker 2>in a public toilet at the back of a petrol station.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a glory hole that was created specifically for

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<v Speaker 2>this purpose. They must have been it at sex club

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<v Speaker 2>or something, and they're already kinky fuckers.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, It makes it sound like for some reason, I

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<v Speaker 1>picked to that moment the reveal happening, like the voice,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, where they hit the table and the chair

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<v Speaker 1>turns around and they see each other.

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<v Speaker 3>For the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>I picture it like, I mean and iron if they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to drop them in between glass and they hit

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<v Speaker 1>it and then that realization of they're not a great singer.

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<v Speaker 3>No, my dad. It's at the moment when a guy's

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<v Speaker 3>abastian hidden it was his cousin. Oh yeah, like that

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't planned to love you guy, but come.

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<v Speaker 2>On, oh dear, Okay, Well yeah, look, I hope that

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<v Speaker 2>everybody is equally as traumatized as we.

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<v Speaker 1>Are from that. I reckon, there's probably someone like you

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<v Speaker 1>make a good point. Well we're having a laugh, but

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<v Speaker 1>obviously these things exist in sex clubs and for whatever else.

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<v Speaker 1>I reckon, we've got a listener that's done it before

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<v Speaker 1>or been to this environment, or we'd love to hear

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<v Speaker 1>from you out of curiosity.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have a question for you. What's the difference

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<v Speaker 2>between going to a masquerade sex party, for example, where

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<v Speaker 2>everyone wears masks?

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<v Speaker 3>There is no difference, right, you'd know if we should dad,

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<v Speaker 3>even if he's under a pussy gut mask. You know

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<v Speaker 3>what your dad? I could have caddies on.

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you No, it's Terry burd is that you?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I need to stop. This is awful.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. I know you think there's not a difference,

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<v Speaker 3>but for me, there's for sure. No, I know that

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<v Speaker 3>there is.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do think that there are circumstances as to

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<v Speaker 2>which this could happen, which my make this story true.

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<v Speaker 2>And if it's not, I'm glad we've talked about it

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<v Speaker 2>for fifteen minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>I also am about the whole package. So, like if

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<v Speaker 1>you're at a masquerade sex party, you're still seeing the

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<v Speaker 1>whole vibe, You're getting an energy, you're getting a general look.

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<v Speaker 3>You're looking at their body.

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<v Speaker 1>You can still see like their mask, it's not a

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<v Speaker 1>paper bag over there, Like they're just cute little mass

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<v Speaker 1>you can still see it. But just a dick is

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<v Speaker 1>just a dick. You don't even see the balls. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think I think it's just a dick.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that that's gonna be the title of this episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Just a dick. Yeah, just a all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Well to taking a very serious pivot after that absolute

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<v Speaker 2>fucking debarkle, there is something that has been released recently

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<v Speaker 2>that we thought was very interesting and also very important,

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<v Speaker 2>and we wanted to have a little chat about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you guys saw this, but basically,

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<v Speaker 2>the federal government has come out saying that they are

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<v Speaker 2>launching a three year project which is aimed at addressing

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<v Speaker 2>toxic masculinity across social media. Now they're throwing three point

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<v Speaker 2>five million dollars at this program, and the purpose of

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<v Speaker 2>this is is to standardize conversations around toxic masculinity, to

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<v Speaker 2>address it with children as young as the age of five,

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<v Speaker 2>to start to remodel and shape what some positive influences

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<v Speaker 2>of masculinity look like. Also, in the same way that

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<v Speaker 2>we spoke about consent in school, it's to ensure that

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<v Speaker 2>kids are receiving at least some sort of standardization of

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<v Speaker 2>these conversations across the board, and that's going to happen

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<v Speaker 2>in different programs within schools and also within sporting networks,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think is really cool because I think traditionally,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with some sports like football, there has been this

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<v Speaker 2>spread of toxic masculinity that has permeated throughout it over

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<v Speaker 2>the years.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's called a Healthy Masculinities Trial Project, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's amazing, and I know we've spoken a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about this in the past, that toxic masculinity does start

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<v Speaker 1>in families and the people that you're in direct contact with.

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<v Speaker 1>So if it's your dad or your older brother when

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<v Speaker 1>you're growing up, it's a learned trait. If that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you're growing up with when you're impressionable. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say that is how you're going to go into

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<v Speaker 1>the world because that's not accurate, but obviously that's a

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<v Speaker 1>big influence on who you're going to become and your

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<v Speaker 1>views and your thoughts. But we live in a different

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<v Speaker 1>world now where of course that is still happening in

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<v Speaker 1>families and behind closed doors, but we live in a

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<v Speaker 1>different world now with social media, and unfortunately we have

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<v Speaker 1>people like Andrew Tate, who I would be surprised if

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<v Speaker 1>there are people that haven't heard Andrew Tate's name thrown around,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you don't know the extent of who he is

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<v Speaker 1>and his beliefs and what he does and how troublesome

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<v Speaker 1>he is. But Andrew Tate is a self proclaimed misogynist.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know it's a really strange thing to say

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<v Speaker 1>that you can lump one thing as big as this,

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<v Speaker 1>as big as toxic masculinity online on one person. But

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Tate has become the figurehead for this. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason I say this is videos of him on TikTok

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<v Speaker 1>and online have been viewed more than eleven point six

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<v Speaker 1>billion times. He has been googled more than Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>or Kim Kardashian. So these are some of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>people in the world. Some of his views are that

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<v Speaker 1>women belong in the house, women shouldn't drive, women shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have right if a woman is sexually assaulted or raped,

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<v Speaker 1>that basically falls on her. He has just been charged

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<v Speaker 1>in Romania for human trafficking, sexual assault, organized crime. The

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<v Speaker 1>list goes on, So that is something that's happening for

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<v Speaker 1>him right now. On the other side of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been under house arrest. I genuinely think he is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most problematic people on the Internet. And

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<v Speaker 1>I will hands down and say the reason young men

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<v Speaker 1>now are leaning into more toxic masculinity traits is because

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<v Speaker 1>of this person, Andrew Tape.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, something you said, brit which I didn't and wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>aware of, and I found this so interesting, And I

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<v Speaker 2>think a lot of people would have heard that he

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<v Speaker 2>was arrested. There was all this stuff going on in Romania,

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<v Speaker 2>the trafficking. I think for a lot of us, when

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<v Speaker 2>we saw that going down online, we thought, oh, that'll

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<v Speaker 2>be the end of him, like, oh, he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be arrested for this, Thank god, He's going to have

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<v Speaker 2>to be held accountable for his problematic views and it

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<v Speaker 2>will kind of end there.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I've not thought.

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<v Speaker 2>Much about it since, to be perfectly honest, At the time,

0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:03.280
<v Speaker 2>he was deep platformed across all social media accounts, so

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<v Speaker 2>his Instagram was taken away, his TikTok was taken away,

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<v Speaker 2>and it kind of felt like at the time that

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<v Speaker 2>that would be the end of Andrew Tate, like how

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<v Speaker 2>is he going to get his messaging out if he's

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<v Speaker 2>been deplatformed now x which is Elon Musk Twitter has

0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:21.119
<v Speaker 2>very different rules in how they operate aside from Meta.

0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:25.560
<v Speaker 2>Meta is obviously the overarching company that owns Instagram and Facebook,

0:19:25.800 --> 0:19:28.560
<v Speaker 2>but X is independent and they herald this idea of

0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:30.960
<v Speaker 2>free speech, so it's quite hard to get It's quite

0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:34.240
<v Speaker 2>hard to get fucking canceled on X. When his account

0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:38.160
<v Speaker 2>was reinstated, it grew to six million almost overnight, which

0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.480
<v Speaker 2>just shows how much influence he has over such a

0:19:41.560 --> 0:19:44.359
<v Speaker 2>huge population of people. Now that account is sitting at

0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:46.320
<v Speaker 2>eight million, So when you look at this idea that

0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:49.360
<v Speaker 2>he is googled more than someone like Kim Kardashian. We

0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:53.000
<v Speaker 2>know the ongoing influence that Kim Kardashian has across so

0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:56.760
<v Speaker 2>many different subcultures and pop culture, and the influence it

0:19:56.840 --> 0:20:00.920
<v Speaker 2>has on young people. I guess it's like understanding that

0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.280
<v Speaker 2>if somebody like Andrew Tate is having that much airtime,

0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:06.840
<v Speaker 2>what is that ongoing impact that it's having on young

0:20:06.920 --> 0:20:09.679
<v Speaker 2>children and young boys. Andrew Tait is not the only

0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:12.480
<v Speaker 2>person who contributes to this narrative. There are many men

0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:16.639
<v Speaker 2>across online and social media who have problematic misogynistic views.

0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.040
<v Speaker 2>But there was some interesting research that was done and

0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:21.840
<v Speaker 2>I think some really alarming statistics of this is that

0:20:21.880 --> 0:20:24.520
<v Speaker 2>the Department of Social Services reported twenty five percent of

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<v Speaker 2>teenage boys are influenced by social media personalities who spread

0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:32.960
<v Speaker 2>harmful gender stereotypes, encourage toxic masculinity, and condone violence against women.

0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:35.080
<v Speaker 2>And then there was another survey that was done in

0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:38.159
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three, which was January this year, and that

0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:41.480
<v Speaker 2>found that one third of teenage boys are inspired by

0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:44.879
<v Speaker 2>Andrew Tate, which, when you think about the influence that

0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:48.520
<v Speaker 2>has it is so alarming. And I guess traditionally, when

0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:51.480
<v Speaker 2>we've talked about toxic masculinity, we've always talked about it

0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:54.000
<v Speaker 2>from coming from the home. We've talked about it as

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<v Speaker 2>being something that is groomed and created in men.

0:20:57.880 --> 0:20:58.920
<v Speaker 3>From a young age.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess, and the way that social media works

0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:03.440
<v Speaker 2>is not only is it coming from the home, it

0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:07.280
<v Speaker 2>is also platformed across such a public media. And so

0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:10.320
<v Speaker 2>I think that this is the first step in trying

0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:11.119
<v Speaker 2>to combat that.

0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:12.160
<v Speaker 3>Is it going to be enough?

0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:15.879
<v Speaker 2>Probably not, to be honest, ultimately, with these sorts of initiatives,

0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:19.120
<v Speaker 2>what it says and whether it has a huge impact

0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:21.320
<v Speaker 2>moving into the future or not, What it says is

0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:23.959
<v Speaker 2>that at least the government recognizes that it is a

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<v Speaker 2>very big problem. And instead of this idea of toxic

0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:30.760
<v Speaker 2>masculinity being this arbitrary concept that we speak about and

0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:33.119
<v Speaker 2>we're like, you know, boys can't cry and they're not

0:21:33.160 --> 0:21:35.080
<v Speaker 2>allowed to have emotions, and then that means that they

0:21:35.080 --> 0:21:37.280
<v Speaker 2>have all this pent up anger, it shows that it

0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:39.840
<v Speaker 2>actually runs far deeper than that and has real life

0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:43.400
<v Speaker 2>consequences for the safety of women. And I think it's

0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.199
<v Speaker 2>a very powerful message that the government is acknowledging that.

0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:48.560
<v Speaker 2>And all of this is in a bid to fight

0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:50.840
<v Speaker 2>domestic violence. All of this is in a bid to

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<v Speaker 2>make women safer. And I think if we can get

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<v Speaker 2>in there and have these conversations with boys far younger

0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:00.440
<v Speaker 2>from five years old, maybe that's what we'll int accept

0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:02.720
<v Speaker 2>these sorts of messaging that they're going to receive when

0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:06.119
<v Speaker 2>they're thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen and they're using social media.

0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:10.080
<v Speaker 2>I think the big question though, here is do you think, Britt,

0:22:10.160 --> 0:22:14.360
<v Speaker 2>that a program like this is robust enough or has

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<v Speaker 2>enough influence to actually make an impact on children when

0:22:17.600 --> 0:22:23.040
<v Speaker 2>they're going up against these absolutely monolithic social media profiles.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do.

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<v Speaker 1>The andrew Tates of the world are always going to

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<v Speaker 1>be there they are never going to not exist. But

0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:33.680
<v Speaker 1>knowledge is power, and teaching these young boys the way

0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:36.600
<v Speaker 1>of the world now and how to respect women and

0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:38.520
<v Speaker 1>what is right and what is wrong, gives them the

0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:41.320
<v Speaker 1>knowledge that when they come up against somebody like Andrew

0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Tait or they're seeing his teachings, they can call bullshit

0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:45.959
<v Speaker 1>on it. But if they aren't taught that, and they

0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:48.200
<v Speaker 1>don't learn that from a young age, they've got nothing

0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:50.080
<v Speaker 1>to compare it to. And I know that sounds like

0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:52.720
<v Speaker 1>that's a very base level, right, Like saying that they've

0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:54.680
<v Speaker 1>got nothing to compare it to, they should no respect.

0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:56.879
<v Speaker 1>But we go to school for a reason, and we

0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:58.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know what these kids are being taught at home.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think if there is something that is across

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<v Speaker 1>the nation every school, it's in the curriculum. It's wild

0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that we even have to have the conversation that this

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:08.920
<v Speaker 1>respect of women needs to be in the curriculum. Like,

0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:11.119
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy that we're even having that conversation.

0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:13.840
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a really hard one because as the

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<v Speaker 2>years progress and as we become more conscious of, you know,

0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:21.280
<v Speaker 2>the ways in which education is failing people. And I

0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:23.520
<v Speaker 2>don't mean the education system, but like when we talk

0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:26.560
<v Speaker 2>about concepts like consent, When we talk about things like

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<v Speaker 2>toxic masculinity.

0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:29.600
<v Speaker 3>None of that is taught in schools.

0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:32.480
<v Speaker 2>When even when you talk about narcissism and like how

0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:36.080
<v Speaker 2>to navigate emotional relationships and romantic relationships, like, none of

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:37.159
<v Speaker 2>that is taught in school.

0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:38.640
<v Speaker 3>It's all life teachings that.

0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:42.440
<v Speaker 2>We acquire through our peers, through our family members, through

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:45.639
<v Speaker 2>our parents. I do sometimes question that there is so

0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:49.000
<v Speaker 2>much pressure on the education system to do everything, to

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<v Speaker 2>provide everything for children, and you know, there comes a

0:23:52.640 --> 0:23:55.040
<v Speaker 2>point where there's only so much that can be done

0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:57.320
<v Speaker 2>in those eight hours of being in school, and if

0:23:57.320 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 2>a chart is being brought up in a household that

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<v Speaker 2>has very problematic views, I think it is really challenging

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:06.879
<v Speaker 2>to break that cycle. It's amazing that these initiatives exist,

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:08.639
<v Speaker 2>and it's amazing now that there is going to be

0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:11.640
<v Speaker 2>some standardization to the conversations that are happening to try

0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:15.080
<v Speaker 2>and combat that. But I do think it puts such

0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:18.400
<v Speaker 2>a huge expectation on the education system to do everything

0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:20.280
<v Speaker 2>and to be everything for every child.

0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree, but what's the alternative. We don't know

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:24.920
<v Speaker 1>what they're being taught at home, and the only way

0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:27.640
<v Speaker 1>to break a pattern is with the next generation, which

0:24:27.880 --> 0:24:29.399
<v Speaker 1>is why I think it's so great that they're starting

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<v Speaker 1>at five years old. Yeah, because at five is when

0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:33.159
<v Speaker 1>you're starting to learn things at home. So if you're

0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:39.120
<v Speaker 1>simultaneously learning something with your peers and you're seeing inspirational people, athletes,

0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:41.879
<v Speaker 1>public figures on board with this program, which is what

0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:44.800
<v Speaker 1>the whole point is, you're able to form your own

0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:47.200
<v Speaker 1>ideas and you can go against the grain.

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:50.400
<v Speaker 3>I would rather my kid go to school and learn

0:24:50.640 --> 0:24:51.560
<v Speaker 3>about how.

0:24:51.400 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 1>To treat women and toxic masculinity, in healthy masculinity than trigonometry.

0:24:55.640 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Any day of the fucking week.

0:24:57.080 --> 0:25:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Like I will tell them scrap trigonometry and to them

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:01.440
<v Speaker 1>the way of the world.

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:03.960
<v Speaker 2>And also teach them how to do their taxs, because like, like,

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 2>come on, if you do want to have a listen

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 2>to more about toxic masculinity. We actually did an episode

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 2>on this last year with Will McMahon from Willem Woodye,

0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:17.440
<v Speaker 2>who he speaks so vulnerably about his experiences growing up

0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:21.920
<v Speaker 2>being very exposed to toxic masculinity, his shame around how

0:25:22.000 --> 0:25:25.640
<v Speaker 2>he viewed masculinity, how he viewed this bravado and how

0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:28.000
<v Speaker 2>it affected him. He also talked about the negative impacts

0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:30.680
<v Speaker 2>that it's had on him in terms of experiencing depression.

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:35.280
<v Speaker 2>It's a really fucking amazing chat. That is episode sixty

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:38.000
<v Speaker 2>one from season three and you can go back. We'll

0:25:38.040 --> 0:25:39.480
<v Speaker 2>link it all in the show notes for you as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, guys, we did trial something different for a little while.

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:46.720
<v Speaker 1>We tried to do our sucond Suite on a Thursday.

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:49.679
<v Speaker 1>I just didn't feel right. It's not right for me.

0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:51.280
<v Speaker 3>I just feel like we need to bring it back

0:25:51.320 --> 0:25:53.120
<v Speaker 3>to the Tuesday. I missed it on a Tuesday.

0:25:53.160 --> 0:25:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Also, it didn't make sense because like we did Tuesday, Wednesday,

0:25:56.160 --> 0:25:58.359
<v Speaker 2>Thursday talking to you, and then I was like, you

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:00.440
<v Speaker 2>already know because we've spoke gives.

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:00.919
<v Speaker 3>You every day.

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 2>So now we just decided it was it made more

0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:04.960
<v Speaker 2>sense to bring our suck and sweet back to the

0:26:05.040 --> 0:26:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Tuesday episode. Mate, Wow, I feel like we haven't oky.

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 2>What's your suck for the week? We haven't fucking stopped.

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:15.400
<v Speaker 1>My suck was that we went away for a couple

0:26:15.400 --> 0:26:18.360
<v Speaker 1>of days for live show and it had rained in Sydney,

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 1>like at home, quite heavily.

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 3>Apparently.

0:26:21.040 --> 0:26:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where that sporadic rain came from, but

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:26.440
<v Speaker 1>when I came back. This is such a stupid thing.

0:26:26.520 --> 0:26:29.320
<v Speaker 1>But all the leaves in my yard because I need

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 1>a gardener.

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 3>If anyone knows a gardener, let me know. Everything had

0:26:31.840 --> 0:26:34.640
<v Speaker 3>gone over the drain. Oh I got it. Fucking floods

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 3>and it floods.

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:38.119
<v Speaker 1>It floods, it floods, it floods, and I had like

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 1>a towel out there, and Delilah's.

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 3>Dog better is there now? It all stinks. It was

0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 3>like I had to deal with a flood at home.

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 3>It actually so like.

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 2>It's this tiled courtyard area and it's got one single drain,

0:26:49.359 --> 0:26:51.359
<v Speaker 2>which makes no sense because there's a massive tree, so

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 2>there's so much leaf litter in the backyard.

0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:55.400
<v Speaker 1>The drain's not even on the right angle food floodwater

0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:57.320
<v Speaker 1>to run to it, I have to sweep it up

0:26:57.800 --> 0:26:58.120
<v Speaker 1>up here.

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<v Speaker 3>Get to the drain is the worst design floor.

0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:03.480
<v Speaker 2>It was the one thing like we lived in that

0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:06.560
<v Speaker 2>apartment during La Nina whatever it was called it. Every

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 2>day Matt was out there with a squidgy brush trying

0:27:09.200 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 2>to like get the water.

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:12.879
<v Speaker 3>I can't believe. I'm so sorry. That sucks. You'd have

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:14.440
<v Speaker 3>to push the water up hell to get out to

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 3>drain the right, it would have been devastating to come

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 3>home to. I was very upset. So my suite.

0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.719
<v Speaker 1>My suite is like a couple of things or people

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:28.800
<v Speaker 1>in one. When we were at the airport we left

0:27:28.840 --> 0:27:30.760
<v Speaker 1>the Gold Coast Show, we ran into quite a few

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 1>people that came up to us in the airport. They

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:34.159
<v Speaker 1>were also flying out. They're like, oh my god, I

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 1>came to the show last night. And when we got

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 1>talking a bit deeper, so many people had literally alone

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 1>flown from other cities all over Australia to the Gold

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Coast to see the show because for whatever reason they

0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>couldn't have made one of the other cities. And the

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 1>number of people that were there by themselves that flew

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:54.439
<v Speaker 1>in and then came up to say hello and thank you,

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:56.439
<v Speaker 1>it really was my suite of the week. I just

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 1>can't believe that you guys would go to that much

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:02.119
<v Speaker 1>effort and it's very humbling. But it also makes me

0:28:02.160 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>feel really okay with how hectic.

0:28:04.600 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 3>Schedule was right now, so I'm like, I love that

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 3>it's actually making a difference.

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:09.879
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean on that that we had people that

0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 2>flew into the Gold Coast Show from Cans, from Sydney,

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 2>from Melbourne from Adelaide like. I think that that was

0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.480
<v Speaker 2>the show that had the most random or not like

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:21.560
<v Speaker 2>friend people flying in from all random places, which was amazing.

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 2>My suck for the week is that I woke up

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 2>this morning and I went downstairs. Now, Buster, he hates

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 2>the rain. He hates it so much when it's raining.

0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:35.239
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't want to go outside and do a pooh. Right,

0:28:35.280 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 2>He'll hold on to that pooh. He will not pooh

0:28:38.040 --> 0:28:41.280
<v Speaker 2>when it rains. Unfortunately for me, that meant he did

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 2>not do a pooh. Yesterday. He did a shit in

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:47.240
<v Speaker 2>my hallway. He has not done that in eight years,

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 2>just a pooh inside. He did a pooh in the

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:52.720
<v Speaker 2>The poor thing must have been dying to go to

0:28:52.720 --> 0:28:55.560
<v Speaker 2>the toilet go outside now he can't. The doors are

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 2>locked at nighttime. It was the middle of the night,

0:28:57.520 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 2>so the middle of the night he'd woken up and was.

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:01.040
<v Speaker 3>Like made the choice.

0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 2>He looked outside not he would never, he would never

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:07.480
<v Speaker 2>hear is such an angel. And I walked downstairs and

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Matt goes, Babe, there is a shit in the hallway,

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:11.480
<v Speaker 2>And after what happened with the nappy, I think he

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 2>thought maybe I'd done that one as well, I mean

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't low long.

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 3>She just took a dump in the hallway.

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 2>She's done some pretty big poop. Nah, it was definitely busted. Anyway,

0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 2>the poor bustard, Yeah, he did a pool in the hallway.

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 2>And the thing is like, Buster is a rescue dog

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 2>and every so often he has these moments where it

0:29:24.720 --> 0:29:27.080
<v Speaker 2>makes me question what his life was before he came

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.800
<v Speaker 2>to us. So we walked downstairs, didn't even say anything.

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.000
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, that's a shame, but obviously we're

0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 2>not gonna get annoyed of him because he never does it.

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<v Speaker 2>And he couldn't get out, like you know, it was

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<v Speaker 2>not even a deal. So I went down and cleaned

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<v Speaker 2>it up, and I went over to be like, hey, Bubby, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry you couldn't get out, Like that must

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<v Speaker 2>have been awful. He was sitting in his bed shaking, shaking, petrified.

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<v Speaker 2>He thought he was going to be in trouble because

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<v Speaker 2>he was so scared he was going to get in trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>And he never gets in trouble. So I'm like, why

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<v Speaker 2>would you think that that's going to be my reaction? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>and he just sat there and shook. Anyway, it was

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<v Speaker 2>I felt so sorry. I was like, my poor little

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<v Speaker 2>angel baby.

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<v Speaker 3>So instead you praise you know, we're gonna sit now.

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<v Speaker 3>He's you do a little shit in the hallway.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not little, they are literally the size of a human.

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<v Speaker 2>And then my sweet for the week is very much

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<v Speaker 2>the live shows. Like I mean, without a dart breed,

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<v Speaker 2>I echo everything you just said. Meeting all of you

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<v Speaker 2>guys has been the most humbling, beautiful experience. Also seeing

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<v Speaker 2>that you posting in the Facebook group that you guys

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<v Speaker 2>are going out for your solo dinners prior to the show,

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<v Speaker 2>like all the people who are rocked up by themselves

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<v Speaker 2>are doing like life on cut meetups.

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<v Speaker 3>It is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, if you are not part of the Facebook group,

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<v Speaker 2>go and join, but if you came, we just want

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<v Speaker 2>to say the biggest thank you we've had, honestly the

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<v Speaker 2>month of our fucking lives. It's been so amazing. It's

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<v Speaker 2>been such a privileged meeting you all. It's been the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest reminder as to why we started this podcast and

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<v Speaker 2>why we love making these episodes so much.

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<v Speaker 3>And also I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think it's been this really beautiful reminder of female friendship.

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<v Speaker 2>So many of you have come with your girlfriends. So

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<v Speaker 2>many of you have made friends at the Life Uncut

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<v Speaker 2>Live shows and that has been not just the highlight

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<v Speaker 2>of my week, but the highlight of my mom.

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<v Speaker 3>And let's not exclude the men, because we've had a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of men coming to a lot of men.

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<v Speaker 2>Mostly it's been women dragging their husbands along, but every

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<v Speaker 2>so often there's a you know, there's two guys sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there and I'm like.

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<v Speaker 3>We did a couple, boy, don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless we forget We love you anyway, Guys, go and

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<v Speaker 2>join our Instagram page Life and Cut Podcast, leave a review,

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<v Speaker 2>or you can follow us on Spotify or Apple Podcasts.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know the drill.

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