Speaker 1: Life on Cut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose
Speaker 1: lands were never seated. We pay our respects to their
Speaker 1: elders past and present.
Speaker 2: Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was
Speaker 2: recorded on Drug Wallamuta Land.
Speaker 3: Hi guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life
Speaker 3: on Cut.
Speaker 2: I'm Laura, I'm Brittany, and we are here to tell
Speaker 2: you a story. Please please go for Just so you
Speaker 2: guys know the timings of this, because of the live shows,
Speaker 2: we kind of had to move out recording schedules around
Speaker 2: a little bit. So normally we record our Tuesday episode,
Speaker 2: which is what this is, on the Monday. We keep
Speaker 2: it fresh, we keep it snappy and up to date.
Speaker 2: Yes relevant, it's what's happening in the world. Unfortunately, we
Speaker 2: had to record this on Friday, so it's a couple
Speaker 2: of days early because on Monday and Tuesday we're going
Speaker 2: to be in Canberra and then we're going to be
Speaker 2: in Brisbane doing the very last of the Life on
Speaker 2: Cut live shows. So sad like that's it's gone really quickly,
Speaker 2: I know, but also I'm kind of sad that we
Speaker 2: are not doing this episode off the back of the
Speaker 2: high of what would have been last night? Can we
Speaker 2: talk about the woman in the front row on the
Speaker 2: Gold Coast and the story she told us that she's
Speaker 2: currently going through with her partner.
Speaker 3: I have not recovered. I've not recovered.
Speaker 1: So it was more just like a general chit chat,
Speaker 1: and she she told us she was having some troubles
Speaker 1: with her partner.
Speaker 2: So I ask a question in the live show, which
Speaker 2: is who here is currently fighting with their partner?
Speaker 3: Who's currently fighting? Now, we always get.
Speaker 1: Fun answers, like, you know, he doesn't pick the kids up,
Speaker 1: He doesn't really do much like it's always like random stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and every time there's people who put their hands
Speaker 2: up and sometimes you know, the one girl was like,
Speaker 2: you know, we have incompatible sex lives because she's had
Speaker 2: a baby, doesn't have sex anymore relatable. Now, this woman
Speaker 2: put her hand up and yelled out that she was
Speaker 2: currently fighting with her husband.
Speaker 3: And the reason, we'll shock you. It's all that shocking.
Speaker 1: Oh no it is, But it's the aftermath of the
Speaker 1: reason that was the most shocking. So he they're fined
Speaker 1: because he went to balley and got jacked off or
Speaker 1: sucked off, like basically got a very very happy ending
Speaker 1: of sorts whilst they were together, so he cheated on her,
Speaker 1: but she knows about it. But it was the gas
Speaker 1: lighting after when we were like, she just said this
Speaker 1: out loud, right, she stood up in front of the
Speaker 1: whole auditorium and she goes, my husband was when got
Speaker 1: sucked off in Bali and.
Speaker 3: Got a rub and dug, let's not make it worse.
Speaker 3: We ejaculated to.
Speaker 1: Someone else, right, yes, And then we were like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, like, what happened?
Speaker 3: Did you leave his ass? Where are you at?
Speaker 1: And she said he said the reason he did it
Speaker 1: was because I go to bed at a different time
Speaker 1: to him. So what did she expect to happen because
Speaker 1: we have different sleep schedules that I'm not.
Speaker 3: I cannot make this up.
Speaker 1: He blamed him going and getting jacked off by someone
Speaker 1: else on the fact that they go to bed at
Speaker 1: different times.
Speaker 2: And then she said it's but he didn't even ask
Speaker 2: me if I wanted to, so she was still processing
Speaker 2: the black It was actually so, I mean, I know
Speaker 2: that there were people in the audience who thought maybe
Speaker 2: that was the plan.
Speaker 3: That was absolutely not a plant.
Speaker 2: We were as shocked, mortified, horrified as what everybody else
Speaker 2: in there was, and I mean, I feel so sorry
Speaker 2: for it. It's such a fucked thing to try and navigate.
Speaker 2: But also on the flip side of that, she like
Speaker 2: she was having a great time. Oh no, she was
Speaker 2: loving it, had a great time in love.
Speaker 3: I don't want anyone to think that this was like
Speaker 3: a real downer. She was just like, yeah, fuck him.
Speaker 3: The whole audience was like, yeah, fuck, it was wild.
Speaker 3: I really hope.
Speaker 2: I mean I know that usually we're like, I hope
Speaker 2: that you work it out, but no, off the back
Speaker 2: of that, I was like, I hope that you leave
Speaker 2: his ass.
Speaker 4: No. Do you know?
Speaker 3: It's one thing to cheat, right, but it's another thing.
Speaker 1: And I say that like it's okay, you guys know
Speaker 1: my stance and I'm not going to repeat it, But
Speaker 1: that is one thing. It's a whole nother kettle of
Speaker 1: fish to then go and blame the woman on why
Speaker 1: you cheat ith.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with a lack of accountability. And I agree with you.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we've had many conversations around cheating
Speaker 2: and how you can work through it if that's what
Speaker 2: you want, blah blah blah. But you cannot work through
Speaker 2: something if there's no acceptance of fault. You cannot work
Speaker 2: through something if somebody is blaming you for their own actions,
Speaker 2: especially when Yeah, it was so bad, but you know what, look,
Speaker 2: Gold Coast Live Show was amazing. Something happened to me
Speaker 2: just before stepping out on stage, and that was the
Speaker 2: story that was the tall tailor. I was gonna tell you,
Speaker 2: oh what you've forgotten this. It has affected me way
Speaker 2: more than it's affected you.
Speaker 1: Okay, I actually is it worse than me not wearing
Speaker 1: undies with a short dress on?
Speaker 3: Nah, you put undies on. So it was fine.
Speaker 2: Nothing really happened. No, So we were standing in the
Speaker 2: like what do you call it the tea room? The
Speaker 2: tea room backstage? And Matt's at home with the kids,
Speaker 2: so he didn't come with us to the Gold Coast show,
Speaker 2: so he stayed home, didn't come to that one.
Speaker 1: I'm actually still trying to think what it's called. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a tea room. I think it's the
Speaker 1: dressing room. Well, they just put some food in. This
Speaker 1: is the room that had the tea in it. So
Speaker 1: I'm the champagne, so I get this message from me.
Speaker 1: We're standing at the back. It's like l it's there.
Speaker 1: Mkerrey's there.
Speaker 2: The whole team where like five minutes from going on stage,
Speaker 2: and he goes, Sobabe, I've just realized while the entire
Speaker 2: upstairs smells like shit, like human shit of our house
Speaker 2: that is. And then it dawned on me that the
Speaker 2: night prior, Lola had done a shit in the middle
Speaker 2: of the night, and I had changed her nappy, rolled
Speaker 2: it up like a burrito and left it sitting on
Speaker 2: the dressing table in your bedroom, in her bedroom, just
Speaker 2: left it there all day, baked in the sun in
Speaker 2: the warmth of the house.
Speaker 1: No, the humidity and the humidity hits different like it
Speaker 1: does like if you pee in Antarctic.
Speaker 3: Guy, it's not the same as if you pooed in
Speaker 3: like Mexico.
Speaker 2: Nah, frozen logs don't hit the same nah anyway. So yeah,
Speaker 2: the poor guy, he was home with the kids and
Speaker 2: a shit in the bedroom and now he hates me
Speaker 2: so he had to clean up. Yeah, but he just
Speaker 2: hates me. Now he's like hell.
Speaker 3: Ah, like he loves.
Speaker 2: Me, but he definitely has a bit of a grudge
Speaker 2: at the moment. O, don'tkay, Well, we're.
Speaker 1: Not gonna get let's scoot over that unless you talk
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 3: Is this the therapy session? Would you like to talk
Speaker 3: about that?
Speaker 4: Or no?
Speaker 3: We can move on from the shit. Okay, well let's
Speaker 3: talk about glory holes.
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about a story going
Speaker 1: viral and I'm sure you guys have seen it, but
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about this.
Speaker 3: We're talking about it.
Speaker 1: What do you mean we talked about it like the
Speaker 1: last two days, non stop, you were frothing this story.
Speaker 3: I am traumatized by this story.
Speaker 1: Okay, Now this is gone viral on TikTok and it
Speaker 1: is the TikTok story about the glory hole. And I
Speaker 1: feel like that's all I need to say. But maybe
Speaker 1: you haven't heard the story.
Speaker 3: Oh if you haven't, you were really missing out. Let
Speaker 3: me tell you.
Speaker 1: I know it is because it's a discussion that you
Speaker 1: will have around a campfire with your friends. You'll be
Speaker 1: wanting to knut this out or don't nut it out.
Speaker 1: You'll be wanting to break this story down and discuss
Speaker 1: it because it's so insane, and then you get into
Speaker 1: these deep like what would you do if you're in
Speaker 1: this situation? But there's a girl called Charlotte Walton who
Speaker 1: we can't be sure if she's the person that received
Speaker 1: this voice note or if she's the person that just
Speaker 1: shared the voice note.
Speaker 3: So this is the story to.
Speaker 4: A story because I'm literally telling everyone it's so horrific.
Speaker 4: So my friend me, who I was with yesterday, she's
Speaker 4: got a mate called Ellie who's in a house share
Speaker 4: in London, and Ellie shares with like a bunch of girls.
Speaker 4: One of the girls was telling her she's just been
Speaker 4: on a hendoo to Amsterdam wherever a stag and the
Speaker 4: hen went at the same time. I think they were
Speaker 4: all just like a mixed social group who kind of
Speaker 4: like knew each other. But then the stag went one
Speaker 4: day and the hen one way, and the hens.
Speaker 3: Went the other.
Speaker 4: And one of the girls on the hendo got super
Speaker 4: drunk and went into one of these booths with like
Speaker 4: a glory hole, and so a girl on the other
Speaker 4: side stuck his dick through. So the girl was just
Speaker 4: drunk and started sucking him off. But it was one
Speaker 4: of these ones apparently where like if like she pushes
Speaker 4: a button and the guy pushes the button on the
Speaker 4: other side, they can kind of see who's on the
Speaker 4: other side. Like it makes it like transparent like a
Speaker 4: window so they can see. And so, being drunk, she
Speaker 4: thought it would be hilarious to push his button just
Speaker 4: to see who she's been sucking off. And so she
Speaker 4: pushes the button and looks up and it's her dad on.
Speaker 3: The other side.
Speaker 4: Apparently, like the hen and the stag do all went
Speaker 4: home early because it was like so traumatic, and the
Speaker 4: girl's fallen out with all her family. The mom's obviously
Speaker 4: found out, and there's like not speaking to the dad,
Speaker 4: Like it's broken up the whole family because this girl
Speaker 4: such of her dad through a gloryhole.
Speaker 3: What the fuck?
Speaker 2: I can't I don't have it in me literally, metaphorically,
Speaker 2: spiritually anything.
Speaker 3: I need therapy, please. My first initial response is, this
Speaker 3: isn't true. I don't know if that's a defense mechanism
Speaker 3: that I've put up. It can't be true. That's a
Speaker 3: coping mechanism. Yes, it's got to be. The odds of
Speaker 3: this happening.
Speaker 1: It has to be a made up story to go
Speaker 1: viral like this is my initial response, because it's so
Speaker 1: viscerally disgusting.
Speaker 2: Do you know what, Like, let's just say it is true.
Speaker 2: Let's go with that, Let's lean into the story. Why
Speaker 2: would you tell anyone you take that shit to the
Speaker 2: gray you?
Speaker 1: Honestly, I mean, I couldn't agree more with this statement.
Speaker 1: Somebody wrote this information couldn't be tortured out of me?
Speaker 3: Not ever get me to say that. Also, what is.
Speaker 1: It called when you have to divorce your parents? You know,
Speaker 1: when kids divorce sarate. I would have to separate from
Speaker 1: them forever. I don't think I could emancipate yourself emancipaid.
Speaker 1: I don't think I could ever. I think I'd have
Speaker 1: to emanipay even though I'm thirty six, And.
Speaker 2: I don't think emancpaate myself because I sacked my dad's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, what's the reason.
Speaker 1: You have to have a great reason why sack dud's
Speaker 1: dick voluntarily?
Speaker 3: Is the real issue here? Okay?
Speaker 2: Look, honestly, the only thing I keep coming back to
Speaker 2: is that there is nothing that anyone could ever do
Speaker 2: that would make me admit that that had just happened.
Speaker 3: I am not leaving that glory whole box. I'm walking
Speaker 3: out someone.
Speaker 2: I'm not walking out to the party and saying, oh
Speaker 2: my god, guys, we have to wrap it up because
Speaker 2: daddy's dick was in the hole.
Speaker 3: I'm not doing it. I'm going back to that.
Speaker 2: I'm going home, but I'm not telling anyone, And I.
Speaker 1: Reckon you tell someone eventually, even if it was one person,
Speaker 1: Like even if it was me, Like, what do you
Speaker 1: think I do?
Speaker 3: How do I handle this? You'd tell one person? What
Speaker 3: would you say your dad afterwards? You don't? You do
Speaker 3: not ever talk to him again? You're amanci baited.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you would say to your dad
Speaker 1: because you're obviously not gonna in all honesty, if you
Speaker 1: have a normal relationship with your dad before that, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna not ever talk to him again, right, But
Speaker 1: I don't know how you handle it. I think there's
Speaker 1: gotta be some space, like you have to have you
Speaker 1: have to have some time out surely, and then send
Speaker 1: you questions.
Speaker 3: Is the dad married to your mom?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So did he cheat on your mum with his daughter?
Speaker 3: Like or I'm not. I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, Please stop. This is why I think
Speaker 1: it can't be real. But I know that people wish
Speaker 1: it was real because it's wild, But I wish it
Speaker 1: was not real.
Speaker 3: I wish it was a tall tale.
Speaker 2: I think it okay, I mean, regardless, if it's a
Speaker 2: tall tale or not. My question is though, if you're
Speaker 2: walking into a room you're really drunk. Fine, I get it.
Speaker 2: People do crazy stuff. There's a penis or a gloryhole,
Speaker 2: you're like, whatever, whoo, I'm on my wild yes year
Speaker 2: of my life. Surely her dad's penis would have been
Speaker 2: an old man's penis, right like a thirty years older,
Speaker 2: thirty five years older. Surely she's looking at that going
Speaker 2: even not knowing it's the dad not knowing.
Speaker 3: How to be recognized that looks for million.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: But what I mean is is like, if someone's going
Speaker 2: to stick their penis to a gloryhole, you'd bloody hope
Speaker 2: it's a nice one that you're going to go for.
Speaker 2: If it's like a sad old man penis, are you
Speaker 2: going to really do it?
Speaker 3: But you don't know how old he was.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I feel like a penis would
Speaker 2: indicate age. Do they not age like every other part
Speaker 2: of the body.
Speaker 4: Nah?
Speaker 3: If that is rock hard, I don't think it gives
Speaker 3: away the age. Maybe flaster that would give away the age.
Speaker 1: But I reckon when it's through a gloryhole, you can't
Speaker 1: tell someone deceptive.
Speaker 2: Okay, I would love to know that. No, not with
Speaker 2: your dad. I'd love to know this though. If you're
Speaker 2: like dating someone who's significantly older than you, like twenty years,
Speaker 2: there's got to be someone who listened to this podcast
Speaker 2: who's dating someone who's that much older.
Speaker 3: You could just watch porno and have a look. Is
Speaker 3: their penis indicative of their age? Like? Is it saggier?
Speaker 3: Is this skin more sun damaged? I don't know what's
Speaker 3: happening some damaged? Who knows? Surely?
Speaker 2: Surely it looks like an old man penis, in which case,
Speaker 2: not that there's anything wrong. Maybe she likes a bit
Speaker 2: of age play, but like that would be the.
Speaker 3: First thing that would turn me off.
Speaker 1: Look, there's a lot of variables in this story that
Speaker 1: we can't be sure about.
Speaker 3: We can't be sure about the age. We can't be
Speaker 3: sure about the why.
Speaker 1: We can't be sure about if he was married to
Speaker 1: someone else, if they're ever going to speak about it again.
Speaker 1: We have to make our own happy ending in this story.
Speaker 3: I would like to know.
Speaker 2: Do you think there's ever a situation in life where
Speaker 2: you would ever contemplate a glory whole?
Speaker 1: No, you have to be I don't even have to
Speaker 1: contemplate that sentence, like, you don't even have to finish
Speaker 1: that sentence. And I know that it's a hard flaccid No,
Speaker 1: it is a flaccid No, there's nothing.
Speaker 3: I'd have to be in a pretty dark place, yeah,
Speaker 3: the glory it's dark.
Speaker 1: It's dark if you wouldn't want that down light on
Speaker 1: the hard deck, But the hold old dick down light
Speaker 1: doesn't do it any.
Speaker 3: Need to be in a dimly lit room. No, there
Speaker 3: is nothing.
Speaker 1: And I've tried to think about these over the last
Speaker 1: couple of days since we've been talking about it. There
Speaker 1: is no circumstance or nothing that would turn me on
Speaker 1: about a gloryhole situation about some random putting his penis
Speaker 1: through a hole. Just seeing a random penis not attached
Speaker 1: to anything floating in the dark doesn't do it for me.
Speaker 2: No, and I appreciate that it doesn't do it for you,
Speaker 2: and it doesn't do it for me either. I'd like
Speaker 2: to establish that before I go in and dipreend people. No,
Speaker 2: but I understand why. For some people it's the naughtiness
Speaker 2: that gets them off right. It's the kink of the unknown.
Speaker 2: I mean, it has to be a kink. It exists
Speaker 2: for a reason, and like, obviously at this place that
Speaker 2: they were at, it wasn't just like a glory hole
Speaker 2: in a public toilet at the back of a petrol station.
Speaker 2: It was a glory hole that was created specifically for
Speaker 2: this purpose. They must have been it at sex club
Speaker 2: or something, and they're already kinky fuckers.
Speaker 1: Anyway, It makes it sound like for some reason, I
Speaker 1: picked to that moment the reveal happening, like the voice,
Speaker 1: you know, where they hit the table and the chair
Speaker 1: turns around and they see each other.
Speaker 3: For the first time.
Speaker 1: I picture it like, I mean and iron if they're
Speaker 1: going to drop them in between glass and they hit
Speaker 1: it and then that realization of they're not a great singer.
Speaker 3: No, my dad. It's at the moment when a guy's
Speaker 3: abastian hidden it was his cousin. Oh yeah, like that
Speaker 3: wasn't planned to love you guy, but come.
Speaker 2: On, oh dear, Okay, Well yeah, look, I hope that
Speaker 2: everybody is equally as traumatized as we.
Speaker 1: Are from that. I reckon, there's probably someone like you
Speaker 1: make a good point. Well we're having a laugh, but
Speaker 1: obviously these things exist in sex clubs and for whatever else.
Speaker 1: I reckon, we've got a listener that's done it before
Speaker 1: or been to this environment, or we'd love to hear
Speaker 1: from you out of curiosity.
Speaker 2: Okay, I have a question for you. What's the difference
Speaker 2: between going to a masquerade sex party, for example, where
Speaker 2: everyone wears masks?
Speaker 3: There is no difference, right, you'd know if we should dad,
Speaker 3: even if he's under a pussy gut mask. You know
Speaker 3: what your dad? I could have caddies on.
Speaker 1: I know what you No, it's Terry burd is that you?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I need to stop. This is awful.
Speaker 3: I know. I know you think there's not a difference,
Speaker 3: but for me, there's for sure. No, I know that
Speaker 3: there is.
Speaker 2: But I do think that there are circumstances as to
Speaker 2: which this could happen, which my make this story true.
Speaker 2: And if it's not, I'm glad we've talked about it
Speaker 2: for fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: I also am about the whole package. So, like if
Speaker 1: you're at a masquerade sex party, you're still seeing the
Speaker 1: whole vibe, You're getting an energy, you're getting a general look.
Speaker 3: You're looking at their body.
Speaker 1: You can still see like their mask, it's not a
Speaker 1: paper bag over there, Like they're just cute little mass
Speaker 1: you can still see it. But just a dick is
Speaker 1: just a dick. You don't even see the balls. I
Speaker 1: don't think I think it's just a dick.
Speaker 3: I think that that's gonna be the title of this episode.
Speaker 3: Just a dick. Yeah, just a all right.
Speaker 2: Well to taking a very serious pivot after that absolute
Speaker 2: fucking debarkle, there is something that has been released recently
Speaker 2: that we thought was very interesting and also very important,
Speaker 2: and we wanted to have a little chat about it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys saw this, but basically,
Speaker 2: the federal government has come out saying that they are
Speaker 2: launching a three year project which is aimed at addressing
Speaker 2: toxic masculinity across social media. Now they're throwing three point
Speaker 2: five million dollars at this program, and the purpose of
Speaker 2: this is is to standardize conversations around toxic masculinity, to
Speaker 2: address it with children as young as the age of five,
Speaker 2: to start to remodel and shape what some positive influences
Speaker 2: of masculinity look like. Also, in the same way that
Speaker 2: we spoke about consent in school, it's to ensure that
Speaker 2: kids are receiving at least some sort of standardization of
Speaker 2: these conversations across the board, and that's going to happen
Speaker 2: in different programs within schools and also within sporting networks,
Speaker 2: which I think is really cool because I think traditionally,
Speaker 2: especially with some sports like football, there has been this
Speaker 2: spread of toxic masculinity that has permeated throughout it over
Speaker 2: the years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called a Healthy Masculinities Trial Project, and I
Speaker 1: think it's amazing, and I know we've spoken a lot
Speaker 1: about this in the past, that toxic masculinity does start
Speaker 1: in families and the people that you're in direct contact with.
Speaker 1: So if it's your dad or your older brother when
Speaker 1: you're growing up, it's a learned trait. If that's what
Speaker 1: you're growing up with when you're impressionable. I don't want
Speaker 1: to say that is how you're going to go into
Speaker 1: the world because that's not accurate, but obviously that's a
Speaker 1: big influence on who you're going to become and your
Speaker 1: views and your thoughts. But we live in a different
Speaker 1: world now where of course that is still happening in
Speaker 1: families and behind closed doors, but we live in a
Speaker 1: different world now with social media, and unfortunately we have
Speaker 1: people like Andrew Tate, who I would be surprised if
Speaker 1: there are people that haven't heard Andrew Tate's name thrown around,
Speaker 1: maybe you don't know the extent of who he is
Speaker 1: and his beliefs and what he does and how troublesome
Speaker 1: he is. But Andrew Tate is a self proclaimed misogynist.
Speaker 1: And I know it's a really strange thing to say
Speaker 1: that you can lump one thing as big as this,
Speaker 1: as big as toxic masculinity online on one person. But
Speaker 1: Andrew Tate has become the figurehead for this. And the
Speaker 1: reason I say this is videos of him on TikTok
Speaker 1: and online have been viewed more than eleven point six
Speaker 1: billion times. He has been googled more than Donald Trump
Speaker 1: or Kim Kardashian. So these are some of the biggest
Speaker 1: people in the world. Some of his views are that
Speaker 1: women belong in the house, women shouldn't drive, women shouldn't
Speaker 1: have right if a woman is sexually assaulted or raped,
Speaker 1: that basically falls on her. He has just been charged
Speaker 1: in Romania for human trafficking, sexual assault, organized crime. The
Speaker 1: list goes on, So that is something that's happening for
Speaker 1: him right now. On the other side of the world,
Speaker 1: he's been under house arrest. I genuinely think he is
Speaker 1: one of the most problematic people on the Internet. And
Speaker 1: I will hands down and say the reason young men
Speaker 1: now are leaning into more toxic masculinity traits is because
Speaker 1: of this person, Andrew Tape.
Speaker 2: Well, something you said, brit which I didn't and wasn't
Speaker 2: aware of, and I found this so interesting, And I
Speaker 2: think a lot of people would have heard that he
Speaker 2: was arrested. There was all this stuff going on in Romania,
Speaker 2: the trafficking. I think for a lot of us, when
Speaker 2: we saw that going down online, we thought, oh, that'll
Speaker 2: be the end of him, like, oh, he's going to
Speaker 2: be arrested for this, Thank god, He's going to have
Speaker 2: to be held accountable for his problematic views and it
Speaker 2: will kind of end there.
Speaker 3: Now I've not thought.
Speaker 2: Much about it since, to be perfectly honest, At the time,
Speaker 2: he was deep platformed across all social media accounts, so
Speaker 2: his Instagram was taken away, his TikTok was taken away,
Speaker 2: and it kind of felt like at the time that
Speaker 2: that would be the end of Andrew Tate, like how
Speaker 2: is he going to get his messaging out if he's
Speaker 2: been deplatformed now x which is Elon Musk Twitter has
Speaker 2: very different rules in how they operate aside from Meta.
Speaker 2: Meta is obviously the overarching company that owns Instagram and Facebook,
Speaker 2: but X is independent and they herald this idea of
Speaker 2: free speech, so it's quite hard to get It's quite
Speaker 2: hard to get fucking canceled on X. When his account
Speaker 2: was reinstated, it grew to six million almost overnight, which
Speaker 2: just shows how much influence he has over such a
Speaker 2: huge population of people. Now that account is sitting at
Speaker 2: eight million, So when you look at this idea that
Speaker 2: he is googled more than someone like Kim Kardashian. We
Speaker 2: know the ongoing influence that Kim Kardashian has across so
Speaker 2: many different subcultures and pop culture, and the influence it
Speaker 2: has on young people. I guess it's like understanding that
Speaker 2: if somebody like Andrew Tate is having that much airtime,
Speaker 2: what is that ongoing impact that it's having on young
Speaker 2: children and young boys. Andrew Tait is not the only
Speaker 2: person who contributes to this narrative. There are many men
Speaker 2: across online and social media who have problematic misogynistic views.
Speaker 2: But there was some interesting research that was done and
Speaker 2: I think some really alarming statistics of this is that
Speaker 2: the Department of Social Services reported twenty five percent of
Speaker 2: teenage boys are influenced by social media personalities who spread
Speaker 2: harmful gender stereotypes, encourage toxic masculinity, and condone violence against women.
Speaker 2: And then there was another survey that was done in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, which was January this year, and that
Speaker 2: found that one third of teenage boys are inspired by
Speaker 2: Andrew Tate, which, when you think about the influence that
Speaker 2: has it is so alarming. And I guess traditionally, when
Speaker 2: we've talked about toxic masculinity, we've always talked about it
Speaker 2: from coming from the home. We've talked about it as
Speaker 2: being something that is groomed and created in men.
Speaker 3: From a young age.
Speaker 2: But I guess, and the way that social media works
Speaker 2: is not only is it coming from the home, it
Speaker 2: is also platformed across such a public media. And so
Speaker 2: I think that this is the first step in trying
Speaker 2: to combat that.
Speaker 3: Is it going to be enough?
Speaker 2: Probably not, to be honest, ultimately, with these sorts of initiatives,
Speaker 2: what it says and whether it has a huge impact
Speaker 2: moving into the future or not, What it says is
Speaker 2: that at least the government recognizes that it is a
Speaker 2: very big problem. And instead of this idea of toxic
Speaker 2: masculinity being this arbitrary concept that we speak about and
Speaker 2: we're like, you know, boys can't cry and they're not
Speaker 2: allowed to have emotions, and then that means that they
Speaker 2: have all this pent up anger, it shows that it
Speaker 2: actually runs far deeper than that and has real life
Speaker 2: consequences for the safety of women. And I think it's
Speaker 2: a very powerful message that the government is acknowledging that.
Speaker 2: And all of this is in a bid to fight
Speaker 2: domestic violence. All of this is in a bid to
Speaker 2: make women safer. And I think if we can get
Speaker 2: in there and have these conversations with boys far younger
Speaker 2: from five years old, maybe that's what we'll int accept
Speaker 2: these sorts of messaging that they're going to receive when
Speaker 2: they're thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen and they're using social media.
Speaker 2: I think the big question though, here is do you think, Britt,
Speaker 2: that a program like this is robust enough or has
Speaker 2: enough influence to actually make an impact on children when
Speaker 2: they're going up against these absolutely monolithic social media profiles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: The andrew Tates of the world are always going to
Speaker 1: be there they are never going to not exist. But
Speaker 1: knowledge is power, and teaching these young boys the way
Speaker 1: of the world now and how to respect women and
Speaker 1: what is right and what is wrong, gives them the
Speaker 1: knowledge that when they come up against somebody like Andrew
Speaker 1: Tait or they're seeing his teachings, they can call bullshit
Speaker 1: on it. But if they aren't taught that, and they
Speaker 1: don't learn that from a young age, they've got nothing
Speaker 1: to compare it to. And I know that sounds like
Speaker 1: that's a very base level, right, Like saying that they've
Speaker 1: got nothing to compare it to, they should no respect.
Speaker 1: But we go to school for a reason, and we
Speaker 1: don't know what these kids are being taught at home.
Speaker 1: So I think if there is something that is across
Speaker 1: the nation every school, it's in the curriculum. It's wild
Speaker 1: that we even have to have the conversation that this
Speaker 1: respect of women needs to be in the curriculum. Like,
Speaker 1: it's crazy that we're even having that conversation.
Speaker 2: I think it's a really hard one because as the
Speaker 2: years progress and as we become more conscious of, you know,
Speaker 2: the ways in which education is failing people. And I
Speaker 2: don't mean the education system, but like when we talk
Speaker 2: about concepts like consent, When we talk about things like
Speaker 2: toxic masculinity.
Speaker 3: None of that is taught in schools.
Speaker 2: When even when you talk about narcissism and like how
Speaker 2: to navigate emotional relationships and romantic relationships, like, none of
Speaker 2: that is taught in school.
Speaker 3: It's all life teachings that.
Speaker 2: We acquire through our peers, through our family members, through
Speaker 2: our parents. I do sometimes question that there is so
Speaker 2: much pressure on the education system to do everything, to
Speaker 2: provide everything for children, and you know, there comes a
Speaker 2: point where there's only so much that can be done
Speaker 2: in those eight hours of being in school, and if
Speaker 2: a chart is being brought up in a household that
Speaker 2: has very problematic views, I think it is really challenging
Speaker 2: to break that cycle. It's amazing that these initiatives exist,
Speaker 2: and it's amazing now that there is going to be
Speaker 2: some standardization to the conversations that are happening to try
Speaker 2: and combat that. But I do think it puts such
Speaker 2: a huge expectation on the education system to do everything
Speaker 2: and to be everything for every child.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, but what's the alternative. We don't know
Speaker 1: what they're being taught at home, and the only way
Speaker 1: to break a pattern is with the next generation, which
Speaker 1: is why I think it's so great that they're starting
Speaker 1: at five years old. Yeah, because at five is when
Speaker 1: you're starting to learn things at home. So if you're
Speaker 1: simultaneously learning something with your peers and you're seeing inspirational people, athletes,
Speaker 1: public figures on board with this program, which is what
Speaker 1: the whole point is, you're able to form your own
Speaker 1: ideas and you can go against the grain.
Speaker 3: I would rather my kid go to school and learn
Speaker 3: about how.
Speaker 1: To treat women and toxic masculinity, in healthy masculinity than trigonometry.
Speaker 3: Any day of the fucking week.
Speaker 1: Like I will tell them scrap trigonometry and to them
Speaker 1: the way of the world.
Speaker 2: And also teach them how to do their taxs, because like, like,
Speaker 2: come on, if you do want to have a listen
Speaker 2: to more about toxic masculinity. We actually did an episode
Speaker 2: on this last year with Will McMahon from Willem Woodye,
Speaker 2: who he speaks so vulnerably about his experiences growing up
Speaker 2: being very exposed to toxic masculinity, his shame around how
Speaker 2: he viewed masculinity, how he viewed this bravado and how
Speaker 2: it affected him. He also talked about the negative impacts
Speaker 2: that it's had on him in terms of experiencing depression.
Speaker 2: It's a really fucking amazing chat. That is episode sixty
Speaker 2: one from season three and you can go back. We'll
Speaker 2: link it all in the show notes for you as well.
Speaker 1: Now, guys, we did trial something different for a little while.
Speaker 1: We tried to do our sucond Suite on a Thursday.
Speaker 1: I just didn't feel right. It's not right for me.
Speaker 3: I just feel like we need to bring it back
Speaker 3: to the Tuesday. I missed it on a Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Also, it didn't make sense because like we did Tuesday, Wednesday,
Speaker 2: Thursday talking to you, and then I was like, you
Speaker 2: already know because we've spoke gives.
Speaker 3: You every day.
Speaker 2: So now we just decided it was it made more
Speaker 2: sense to bring our suck and sweet back to the
Speaker 2: Tuesday episode. Mate, Wow, I feel like we haven't oky.
Speaker 2: What's your suck for the week? We haven't fucking stopped.
Speaker 1: My suck was that we went away for a couple
Speaker 1: of days for live show and it had rained in Sydney,
Speaker 1: like at home, quite heavily.
Speaker 3: Apparently.
Speaker 1: I don't know where that sporadic rain came from, but
Speaker 1: when I came back. This is such a stupid thing.
Speaker 1: But all the leaves in my yard because I need
Speaker 1: a gardener.
Speaker 3: If anyone knows a gardener, let me know. Everything had
Speaker 3: gone over the drain. Oh I got it. Fucking floods
Speaker 3: and it floods.
Speaker 1: It floods, it floods, it floods, and I had like
Speaker 1: a towel out there, and Delilah's.
Speaker 3: Dog better is there now? It all stinks. It was
Speaker 3: like I had to deal with a flood at home.
Speaker 3: It actually so like.
Speaker 2: It's this tiled courtyard area and it's got one single drain,
Speaker 2: which makes no sense because there's a massive tree, so
Speaker 2: there's so much leaf litter in the backyard.
Speaker 1: The drain's not even on the right angle food floodwater
Speaker 1: to run to it, I have to sweep it up
Speaker 1: up here.
Speaker 3: Get to the drain is the worst design floor.
Speaker 2: It was the one thing like we lived in that
Speaker 2: apartment during La Nina whatever it was called it. Every
Speaker 2: day Matt was out there with a squidgy brush trying
Speaker 2: to like get the water.
Speaker 3: I can't believe. I'm so sorry. That sucks. You'd have
Speaker 3: to push the water up hell to get out to
Speaker 3: drain the right, it would have been devastating to come
Speaker 3: home to. I was very upset. So my suite.
Speaker 1: My suite is like a couple of things or people
Speaker 1: in one. When we were at the airport we left
Speaker 1: the Gold Coast Show, we ran into quite a few
Speaker 1: people that came up to us in the airport. They
Speaker 1: were also flying out. They're like, oh my god, I
Speaker 1: came to the show last night. And when we got
Speaker 1: talking a bit deeper, so many people had literally alone
Speaker 1: flown from other cities all over Australia to the Gold
Speaker 1: Coast to see the show because for whatever reason they
Speaker 1: couldn't have made one of the other cities. And the
Speaker 1: number of people that were there by themselves that flew
Speaker 1: in and then came up to say hello and thank you,
Speaker 1: it really was my suite of the week. I just
Speaker 1: can't believe that you guys would go to that much
Speaker 1: effort and it's very humbling. But it also makes me
Speaker 1: feel really okay with how hectic.
Speaker 3: Schedule was right now, so I'm like, I love that
Speaker 3: it's actually making a difference.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean on that that we had people that
Speaker 2: flew into the Gold Coast Show from Cans, from Sydney,
Speaker 2: from Melbourne from Adelaide like. I think that that was
Speaker 2: the show that had the most random or not like
Speaker 2: friend people flying in from all random places, which was amazing.
Speaker 2: My suck for the week is that I woke up
Speaker 2: this morning and I went downstairs. Now, Buster, he hates
Speaker 2: the rain. He hates it so much when it's raining.
Speaker 2: He doesn't want to go outside and do a pooh. Right,
Speaker 2: He'll hold on to that pooh. He will not pooh
Speaker 2: when it rains. Unfortunately for me, that meant he did
Speaker 2: not do a pooh. Yesterday. He did a shit in
Speaker 2: my hallway. He has not done that in eight years,
Speaker 2: just a pooh inside. He did a pooh in the
Speaker 2: The poor thing must have been dying to go to
Speaker 2: the toilet go outside now he can't. The doors are
Speaker 2: locked at nighttime. It was the middle of the night,
Speaker 2: so the middle of the night he'd woken up and was.
Speaker 3: Like made the choice.
Speaker 2: He looked outside not he would never, he would never
Speaker 2: hear is such an angel. And I walked downstairs and
Speaker 2: Matt goes, Babe, there is a shit in the hallway,
Speaker 2: And after what happened with the nappy, I think he
Speaker 2: thought maybe I'd done that one as well, I mean
Speaker 2: it wasn't low long.
Speaker 3: She just took a dump in the hallway.
Speaker 2: She's done some pretty big poop. Nah, it was definitely busted. Anyway,
Speaker 2: the poor bustard, Yeah, he did a pool in the hallway.
Speaker 2: And the thing is like, Buster is a rescue dog
Speaker 2: and every so often he has these moments where it
Speaker 2: makes me question what his life was before he came
Speaker 2: to us. So we walked downstairs, didn't even say anything.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's a shame, but obviously we're
Speaker 2: not gonna get annoyed of him because he never does it.
Speaker 2: And he couldn't get out, like you know, it was
Speaker 2: not even a deal. So I went down and cleaned
Speaker 2: it up, and I went over to be like, hey, Bubby, like,
Speaker 2: I'm so sorry you couldn't get out, Like that must
Speaker 2: have been awful. He was sitting in his bed shaking, shaking, petrified.
Speaker 2: He thought he was going to be in trouble because
Speaker 2: he was so scared he was going to get in trouble.
Speaker 2: And he never gets in trouble. So I'm like, why
Speaker 2: would you think that that's going to be my reaction? Like,
Speaker 2: and he just sat there and shook. Anyway, it was
Speaker 2: I felt so sorry. I was like, my poor little
Speaker 2: angel baby.
Speaker 3: So instead you praise you know, we're gonna sit now.
Speaker 3: He's you do a little shit in the hallway.
Speaker 2: They're not little, they are literally the size of a human.
Speaker 2: And then my sweet for the week is very much
Speaker 2: the live shows. Like I mean, without a dart breed,
Speaker 2: I echo everything you just said. Meeting all of you
Speaker 2: guys has been the most humbling, beautiful experience. Also seeing
Speaker 2: that you posting in the Facebook group that you guys
Speaker 2: are going out for your solo dinners prior to the show,
Speaker 2: like all the people who are rocked up by themselves
Speaker 2: are doing like life on cut meetups.
Speaker 3: It is amazing.
Speaker 2: Now, if you are not part of the Facebook group,
Speaker 2: go and join, but if you came, we just want
Speaker 2: to say the biggest thank you we've had, honestly the
Speaker 2: month of our fucking lives. It's been so amazing. It's
Speaker 2: been such a privileged meeting you all. It's been the
Speaker 2: biggest reminder as to why we started this podcast and
Speaker 2: why we love making these episodes so much.
Speaker 3: And also I.
Speaker 2: Think it's been this really beautiful reminder of female friendship.
Speaker 2: So many of you have come with your girlfriends. So
Speaker 2: many of you have made friends at the Life Uncut
Speaker 2: Live shows and that has been not just the highlight
Speaker 2: of my week, but the highlight of my mom.
Speaker 3: And let's not exclude the men, because we've had a
Speaker 3: lot of men coming to a lot of men.
Speaker 2: Mostly it's been women dragging their husbands along, but every
Speaker 2: so often there's a you know, there's two guys sitting
Speaker 2: there and I'm like.
Speaker 3: We did a couple, boy, don't.
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