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Speaker 1: My next guest has had a remarkable international representative career

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Speaker 1: Cup back in two thousand and one. She was a

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Speaker 1: key player in the Australian women's Open team from two

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Speaker 1: thousand and one up until twenty ten, including being named

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Speaker 1: the Player of the Series in her first World Cup

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Speaker 1: in twenty three so that's a little while ago.

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Speaker 2: Now. She was the.

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Speaker 1: Second Indigenous woman to represent the EMUs at opens level

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Speaker 1: and has fifty international caps. She's captain the Australian Masters

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Speaker 1: teams in twenty seventeen, the Trans Tasman Test Series in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen as well as well. Honestly, the list goes on,

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Speaker 1: and on the weekend she was inducted into the Australian

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Speaker 1: Touch Football Hall of Fame. Now I believe she lives

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Speaker 1: in Brisbane at the moment, but she is absolutely a

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Speaker 1: territory treasure. Her name is Bodla Cruz and she joins

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Speaker 1: me on the show.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Bo, Good morning Katie, and I'm definitely a

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Speaker 2: territory girl through and through that you are.

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Speaker 1: And look, I know that some of your friends have

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Speaker 1: already messaged me this morning excited and happy that you

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Speaker 1: are on the show and so pumped that you've been

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Speaker 1: inducted into the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty big. I've got a couple of

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Speaker 2: just had recently done a reconciliation talk for the NRL,

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Speaker 2: a little emotional, as you do, and then gave my

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Speaker 2: dad and Muma call. They got all emotional. They actually

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Speaker 2: still live up there and Walkleman. Most people know me,

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Speaker 2: they know where my house, my house is, so yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's yeah, it's a bit of a Yeah, it was

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Speaker 2: a shock, but I'm you see, you know, a lot

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Speaker 2: of hard work, but beautiful night. It was an awesome night.

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Speaker 1: Well, this is the thing, I think to anybody that's

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Speaker 1: an absolute gun and and and you know, they're probably

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. Yeah, it's been a while. I mean

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Speaker 2: when you said two thousand and three for the Play

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Speaker 2: it's been a long time, and I've sort of not

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Speaker 2: watching my son play Touch and I actually took him

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Speaker 2: obviously I've always got a you know, I suppose think

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Speaker 1: What was it like for you? I mean, you've had

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Speaker 1: Now, but were you the only territory and to be

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Speaker 1: Good on you. Look, I love seeing Territorians too well.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, the boys were having a go at because

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, all the all, Well two of the wolf

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Speaker 1: But I love what you've done in terms of putting

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Speaker 1: I love to celebrate other women doing phenomenal things. And

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Speaker 2: if I've changed one little boys or girl's life by

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Speaker 1: On you, Good on you, boy. It's so lovely to

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Speaker 1: speak to you this morning. Do you want to give

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Speaker 1: sure they are listening. You reckon.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully shout out to my mom and dad down there

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Speaker 2: to give a shout out to Uncle Seminata. Edward's done them.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's gone through a bit of a tough

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Speaker 2: my love. And you know, he was one of the

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Speaker 2: ones that messaged me, and you know, for him to

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Speaker 2: do that while his health not too too good was amazing.

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Speaker 2: And yeah it was. I had a lot of messages, mate,

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Speaker 2: and I had them.

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Speaker 1: Well, Jackie's already messaged me this morning about something else,

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Speaker 1: so I reckon her and step might be listening, and

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Speaker 1: I know Stem is an avid listener to the show,

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Speaker 1: so I'm sure he's listening this morning. But both, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: massive congratulations to you from all of us here in

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Speaker 1: the Northern Territory and really wonderful to see you recognized

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Speaker 1: in this way. And keep an eye out for those

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Speaker 1: wolf Boys. Keep him out of trouble for me, I

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Speaker 1: definitely will. I'm sure they're behaving good on you both,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, all right, see