1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Know that the Northern Territory Police attended a number of 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: disturbances at licensed premises within the Darwin CBD over the weekend, 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: allegedly involving members of the Mongol's Outlaw motorcycle gang. Now 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: joining me in the studio to tell us a little 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: bit more about the situation is Matt Hollanby, who is 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: indeed the commander of Organized Crime Intelligence and Capability within 7 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: the Northern Territory Police. Good morning to you. 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: Matteah, Good morning Katie, and good morning to your listeners. 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Now, I know that police are continuing, or I understand 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: they're continuing to request assistance from the public about an 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: assault of two males that occurred in Monsoons just shortly 12 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 1: after three am on Saturday. 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: Is that the case, Yeah, that's correct, Katie. 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 3: There was an incident in Monsoons where a man who 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: by all accounts did nothing wrong, was just passing by 16 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 3: us punched in the face by you what we alleged 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 3: to be a Mongols member. The man went to hospital 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 3: and received some for facial injuries. So we're loosely aware 19 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: of who the offender was, and we've already spoken to 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 3: the man who was injured. But if anyone else saw 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 3: the incident in terms of a future prosecution, we'll be 22 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 3: interested in them coming forward. 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: And so was there an assault just on one person 24 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: or was there a second person as well? 25 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 3: Look, the one I've got in front of me talks 26 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: about one person who was assaulted. There were some other 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: lesser incidents where this one a person actually got hurt. 28 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: So that's you know, it's sad that a Territorian was 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: injured by one of the visiting Mongols. 30 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: And were there any other other incidents involving those Mongols 31 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: while they were in Dawet or while they've been here. 32 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 3: Look, the group, the leader of the group, who was 33 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 3: quite upfront with the police, controlled them reasonably well. But 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 3: there were a gentlement that went into nightclubs and caused 35 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: a few issues. There was one lady who was confronted 36 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: by what we alleged to be a Mongol member who 37 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: thought that his behavior was inappropriate, and we've identified him 38 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 3: as well. So but you know, again, it's sad that 39 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: somebody had to be injured in a nightclub for no 40 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: particularly good reason. 41 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: And so what is the process now, Like, how long 42 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: are you expecting these Mongols bikes to be in town? 43 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: And how long do you keep up that increased police presence. 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, most of them when they came up, they 45 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 3: came from all different directions. Some across the Barkley Highway 46 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: to Tenant Creek, some came up the Stuart Highway through 47 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 3: Alice Springs and others came from Western Australia as well. 48 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 3: So in Alice Springs on their departure we greeted them 49 00:02:55,120 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: and breath tested and drug tested them. There was one 50 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: driver was issued and notice to appear for drug driving yep. 51 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 3: But one was issued a notice to a peer for 52 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 3: a small amount of cannabis. But generally they were fairly compliant. 53 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 3: And the other Springs random breath testing station. There was 54 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: another random breath testing station down near Nunama and similarly 55 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: they were generally compliant with the road safety rules. 56 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: And do we have an estimate of how many of 57 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: them were actually in the Northern Territory over the weekend. 58 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: Look at riders versus members. 59 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: There was certainly there was fifty riders that went through 60 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: the roadblock in La Springs, but probably in one hundred 61 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: and twenty one hundred and fifty range all up that 62 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 3: attended Dawn for their national run. 63 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: And Commander, I know that we have had some people 64 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: get in contact with us saying, well, you know the 65 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: police had such an increased presence for the Mongols outlaw 66 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: motorcycle gang. Why you know, why did you need such 67 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: an increased presence. 68 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: Well, they are an outlaw motorcycle gang. 69 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: Outlaw motorcycle gangs at a national level are affiliated with 70 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: organized crime. We understand the Mongols are trying to establish 71 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: a presence in the Northern Territory and we would prefer 72 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: they didn't. And from our perspective, it was a good 73 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 3: intelligence gathering exercise. We had other interstate counterparts who also 74 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: came up to assist and they gained some valuable intelligence 75 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: out of it as well. 76 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: Commander, what makes you think that they do want to 77 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: establish an outlaw motorcycle gang, Well, the Mongols outlaw motorcycle 78 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: gang here in the territory. 79 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 3: Well that's the information we're receiving. And historically motorcycle outlaw 80 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 3: motorcycle gangs have been involved in drug trafficking and particularly amphetamines, 81 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 3: and I think we all know the harms that amphetamines 82 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 3: do to our community. If you have any friends that 83 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: have been had family members affected by and asked them, 84 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: and they will tell you how bad it is. 85 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: So how big a concern is it? Now? Then for 86 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: us here in the Northern Territory, if indeed the Mongols 87 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: outlaw motorcycle gang do set up a presence, look as. 88 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 3: I say, we you know, our charter is to monitor 89 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 3: their activities and prevent them from engaging in organized crime. 90 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 3: And that's what we'll do. You know, you've seen Operation 91 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 3: ero Insight that the Australian Federal Police ran into the 92 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: common cero's and the extent of organized crime that they 93 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 3: were engaged in. 94 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: So you know, there are. 95 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: There are a lot of downsides to having an outlaor 96 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 3: motorcycle gang in the territory. 97 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: I mean, anybody out there listening, who's thinking to themselves, Oh, 98 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's a milkey gang. What are we so 99 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: concerned about? What would you say to them? 100 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 101 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: Look, there is a perception by some people that the 102 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: good old boys that ride motorbikes and drink beer. If 103 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 3: you want to do your own so research, just google, 104 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 3: you know, google arrest of outlaw motorcycle gang member in Australia, 105 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: and you know some really really interesting reading, really horrific reading, 106 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: and you know, that there may be the occasional one 107 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 3: that is a good old boy, but they are affiliated 108 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 3: with organized crime, and you know, particularly the dealing of 109 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: amphetamines into the community, and we all know the harms 110 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 3: of that. At a national level, a national study has 111 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 3: been done that says that women who are in domestic 112 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 3: relationships with outlaw motorcycle gang members are six times more 113 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 3: likely to be the victim of a domestic violence assaults. 114 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 3: You know, it's not all beer and skittles. In terms 115 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: of motorcycle gangs, they are one percent gangs, which means, 116 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 3: you know, they do engage in crime. 117 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: Have we got have we sort of got, you know, 118 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: organized crime gangs in the Northern Territory at the moment, 119 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: that might be quite an question, but I'd suppose there'll 120 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: be people wondering that. 121 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 3: Look, there are other outlaw motorcycle gangs that have a 122 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: small presence in the Northern Territory, and you know, part 123 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: of our role is to monitor their behaviors and prevent 124 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 3: them from engaging in crime of any sort, in particular 125 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 3: serious and organized crime. And I stress this again in 126 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 3: particular keeping amphetamines out of the Northern Territory as best 127 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: we can. 128 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: And so from your perspective, will you and your crew 129 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: sort of be doing what you can to try to 130 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: stop the Mongols from having a presence here. 131 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: Look, well, you know, I won't go into all of 132 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: the details, but you know we'll actively monitor them and 133 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: prevent them from establishing themselves as an organized crime group 134 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 3: as best we can in the Northern Territory. 135 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: And so have they left now? 136 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: Look, there was as I said, that one hundred twenty 137 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty that we're here with the bulk 138 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 3: of them have left, but there are still some that 139 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: are on their way out of the Northern Territory. And again, 140 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: in fairness to them, the majority their behavior was well 141 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: controlled by their group, but there was an element that. 142 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: Didn't comply with the club directions. 143 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: Well, Commander Matt Hollandby, we appreciate your time this morning. 144 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: Thank you very much for coming in and having a 145 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: chat to us. 146 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: Thanks Katie and always a pleasure. 147 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: Thank you.