WEBVTT - Take It or Leave It: Could Taking Stress Leave Affect My Insurances?

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<v Speaker 3>It's not just about money, but it's actually been a

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<v Speaker 6>So stoked for you? That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>waxa like, imagine getting a leads and being like, have

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<v Speaker 3>the time and the place. Yes, agreed, agreea a time

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<v Speaker 3>and a place where it's not appropriate. Oh wait, oh

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<v Speaker 3>wait anyway, yeah, in a funeral will be like I

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<v Speaker 3>wonder what her life insurance.

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<v Speaker 6>Was, Like, Hey, it's never a bad time to talk

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<v Speaker 6>about finances.

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<v Speaker 3>It's never a bad time never. All right, now, my friends,

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<v Speaker 3>it is time the moment of Friday drinks where you

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<v Speaker 3>And this week's question came to us via our DMS

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<v Speaker 3>and Sarah would like to know, my friends, what place

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<v Speaker 3>have you traveled to that was actually really disappointing in

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<v Speaker 3>real life?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh it's a really good question.

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<v Speaker 4>I have one which I've mentioned on the show before.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm pretty sure, and it's Mexico. I will say a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit on us because I don't think we did

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<v Speaker 4>enough research. The hotel we were in, it was like

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<v Speaker 4>us and four other people. One of the restaurants was

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<v Speaker 4>always close. You could really only eat at one restaurant.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just a very Tristy area. I think we

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<v Speaker 4>weren't in Mexico City. We were in Plate or Carmen,

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<v Speaker 4>and it seems I didn't realize that the only thing

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<v Speaker 4>to do there is drink, which we were two not

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<v Speaker 4>huge drinkers. So how is just not the right choice

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<v Speaker 4>by us. I would like to go back and see more,

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<v Speaker 4>because I've heard really good things about Mexico City. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's not the country city.

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<v Speaker 3>You are so optimistic, because I have written that off

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<v Speaker 3>and said I'm never riding back there.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm I'm assuming user error. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>I think every place, every country has something incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>I just did the country was.

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<v Speaker 6>I know it's my upset a lot of people, but

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<v Speaker 6>honestly like London, but I was Lire like three days

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<v Speaker 6>and also probably user error as well, but I like

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<v Speaker 6>went to I had to go there to do somewhere else,

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<v Speaker 6>and so I didn't really see all there was.

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<v Speaker 3>See.

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<v Speaker 6>All I know is I couldn't afford to buy anything

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<v Speaker 6>because it was so expensive and the conversions killer killer,

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<v Speaker 6>and also went to I think I went to Big Ben.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know. I think I did the clock that

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<v Speaker 6>was the clock. I was like, okay, well that's kind

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<v Speaker 6>of cool, but yeah, I had they were just was

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<v Speaker 6>kind of like, oh, I don't think I really need

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<v Speaker 6>to be here for that much longer.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, London, for whatever reason, gives Melbourne vibes to me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>maybe it's just not that different for what we like.

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<v Speaker 4>The architecture is beautiful, like the historical architecture, but I

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<v Speaker 4>think like the city vibe reminded me a lot of home,

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<v Speaker 4>which is why so many move over there to live.

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<v Speaker 6>Really, that is so true, and also probably why it

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<v Speaker 6>felt so not that exciting because I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>culturally and aesthetically, I'm basically in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe what that feeling is. And when I'm paying a

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<v Speaker 3>lot more for that experience.

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<v Speaker 4>Double the price to be here, Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel bad. I feel really bad because I just

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<v Speaker 3>traveling is a privilege, Like we're so lucky to experience this,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm about to poop all over something. And I

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<v Speaker 3>also know that the location I'm about to disclose someone

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<v Speaker 3>listening has probably picked it for their like honeymoon or something,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're like, wait, what Victoria caveat This was like

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<v Speaker 3>more than ten years ago. This was probably like fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>nearly twenty years ago, which it's honestly no, not even

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<v Speaker 3>twenty maybe fifteen years ago. I'm being dramatic. It's Peepee

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<v Speaker 3>Island in Thailand. He b Island, Pib Island, and if

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<v Speaker 3>you google this location, it's stunning, gorgeous, like white crystal,

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<v Speaker 3>white beaches, jounning like the photos are like next level

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<v Speaker 3>the water, blue glustening. You just think island time, you think,

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<v Speaker 3>oh incredible. Anyway, got there and again maybe user experience

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<v Speaker 3>of the entire island. I was with an ex boyfriend

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<v Speaker 3>traveling and we did Thailand. Adored Thailand, and they're more like,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to fly to Pep Island. It's more expensive locations,

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<v Speaker 3>so we're going to spend less time there, and we

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<v Speaker 3>researched like resorts. He mainly researched the resort that we

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<v Speaker 3>picked because I would have read every single trip Advisor review. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we got bed bugs on which was one out of ten.

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<v Speaker 3>We had to move hotels because I discovered the bed bugs,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I looked up the reviews on trip Advisor

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<v Speaker 3>and everyone reiterated those bed bugs. Turns out there's bed

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<v Speaker 3>bugs all over the island and basically every hotel had

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<v Speaker 3>them at that point in time, so we couldn't escape

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<v Speaker 3>the problem, and we were stuck on an island. And

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<v Speaker 3>then the beach was just it wasn't pristine. It was

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<v Speaker 3>full of people, people that were trying to charge me,

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<v Speaker 3>people that were trying to scam me. It was just

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<v Speaker 3>so overwhelming, like you couldn't just go for a serene

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<v Speaker 3>swim because it was full of just people, like back

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<v Speaker 3>to back people. And yeah, nothing about it was good.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I got food poisoning, and I remember being like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it can get worse.

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<v Speaker 4>That would truly just take the place you're in forever.

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<v Speaker 3>I fed bugs when you want to lay down, but

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<v Speaker 3>you have food poisoning. It's not the experience I wei

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<v Speaker 3>show even my worst enemy. Oh I don't even have

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<v Speaker 3>a worst enemy. So yeah, that's the place that didn't

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<v Speaker 3>live up to the hype.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, cool, good to sometimes hear the flip side of things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I feel like most people just want to

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<v Speaker 4>travel everyhere. I know, I want to travel everywhere, and

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes it's good to temper, you know, the Instagram with

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit of reality.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agreed, absolutely. Yeah. All right, well, guys, if

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<v Speaker 3>you've got a question that you need answered on the pod,

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<v Speaker 3>your queries. Honestly, the more unhinged the better. Now, Miss

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<v Speaker 3>Jessica Ricies, tell me about this week's money Lady.

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<v Speaker 4>Firstly, this week I have one from Emily who said

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<v Speaker 4>I have been I am off a Nation balance bike

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<v Speaker 4>for baby boys first birthday. Came across one on marketplace

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<v Speaker 4>for thirty dollars, which is half priced, and she didn't

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<v Speaker 4>have to pay for shipping. It was only just around

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<v Speaker 4>the corner, so she walked over to pick it up

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<v Speaker 4>so it didn't even have to spend money on fuel

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<v Speaker 4>money in Do you know that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly what I've been manifesting on Facebook Marketplace this week. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but I want the cruisy one.

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<v Speaker 6>It's quite a mouthful. What is it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like a little kid's balance bike, so it's

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<v Speaker 3>like basically think of a normal bike, shrink it and

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<v Speaker 3>remove the pedals so they kind of like balance on it,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're really light, so you can kind of toddler's.

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<v Speaker 3>Toddlers suck. They say, no, I really want my bike.

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<v Speaker 3>I really want my bike. Beckall, I have to take

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<v Speaker 3>my bike and then you get five minutes into the

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<v Speaker 3>walk and they're like, I want to be carried so

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<v Speaker 3>really light bike. So that's an important one. Yeah, to

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<v Speaker 3>pick up and take places because like, girl, you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be carrying the baby and the bike anyway I

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<v Speaker 3>will for thirty bucks is a good deal, got you okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Next, I've got a money in from Orlanda who said

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<v Speaker 4>she's been taking the kids to the movies and got

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<v Speaker 4>a family ticket which saved us some money, and she

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<v Speaker 4>also managed to save by getting a voucher through shop

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<v Speaker 4>Back using her shop back credits.

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<v Speaker 3>Very good.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel lots of people are doing movies with the

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<v Speaker 4>kids on school holidays and things like that, so that's

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<v Speaker 4>a good ear. Next, I've got a money in from Jane,

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<v Speaker 4>who said my partner and I were planning on heading

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<v Speaker 4>to a Kia to buy three chairs for our new office.

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<v Speaker 4>Wooli's had twenty times points on the Ultimate gift cards,

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<v Speaker 4>so I bought four hundred dollars worth and got forty

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<v Speaker 4>bucks straight back in Woolies dollars, which are banked for Christmas.

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<v Speaker 4>Then they went in store, they tried the chair and

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<v Speaker 4>it was so uncomfortable they ended up getting a different

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<v Speaker 4>one that was a third of the cost. So a

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<v Speaker 4>twelve hundred dollar shop turned into a seven hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>sixty dollars shop.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh money, I'm so sorry the one that you liked

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<v Speaker 3>didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Happy. I also, yeah, it was a cheap bar that

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<v Speaker 4>you lacked next time. I've got this from Die who

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<v Speaker 4>said last week we were gonna have take away for dinner,

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<v Speaker 4>but realized we'd had it in the past two weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>So my husband went to the shops on his way home,

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<v Speaker 4>purchased some chicken for twelve dollars and made wraps from

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<v Speaker 4>the ingredients we already had. Takeaway normally cost our family

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<v Speaker 4>fifty to sixty bucks instead of twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>It's getting so expensive.

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me why going to McDonald's is what once upon

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<v Speaker 4>a time you would have paid at like your local

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<v Speaker 4>Mexican restaurant. It's so expensive.

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<v Speaker 3>I were into a Burgo restaurant yesterday for our work

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<v Speaker 3>lunch chess and I was like, oh, yeah, I'll just

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<v Speaker 3>have that burger and those chips, and they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>do you want to make it a combat and I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, no, I don't need the drink and salt.

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<v Speaker 3>Go thanks for drink. What do when I get back

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<v Speaker 3>to the office twenty seven dollars. Still it's crazy. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>what I know, Like I remember just looking at it

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<v Speaker 3>and being like, okay, Like not again. Maybe we should

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<v Speaker 3>have like a little fake away series. Like I keep

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<v Speaker 3>getting in trouble because I suggest things that we should

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<v Speaker 3>do on the podcast that gives the team more work.

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<v Speaker 3>But like fake away, But I want fake away meals

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<v Speaker 3>that I can buy and put in the freezer so

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<v Speaker 3>they're not like a planned meal, They're just like a

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<v Speaker 3>freezer meal back up. But I'm like, oh, we can

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<v Speaker 3>have that fake away. Yeah, every time I tempted.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll tell you what, There's nothing quite as if you

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<v Speaker 6>have like those frozen fish fillids you can have like

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<v Speaker 6>an air fry and it does feel like you've gotten

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<v Speaker 6>You've gotten a fake away.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah exactly. But maybe we put together our favorite fake

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<v Speaker 3>away meal based on things that we can either prep

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<v Speaker 3>and freeze. And I'm saying that because I know Jess

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<v Speaker 3>makes her homemade dumplings. Anything just makes this good. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm basically like, hey, can we have all your resbees

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<v Speaker 3>jest me and.

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<v Speaker 4>My freezer, my air fryer.

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<v Speaker 1>I like this.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me tell you all right, next, I've got the

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<v Speaker 4>money in from c who said when KO put their

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<v Speaker 4>prices up to sixty dollars a month for premium, she

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<v Speaker 4>went to cancel, and I offered her a thirty dollars

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<v Speaker 4>discount a month to stay that price. She said, try

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<v Speaker 4>canceling your subscriptions. You might get a discount before you

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<v Speaker 4>actually have to cancel it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I agreed.

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<v Speaker 3>I do test that even when I don't want to cancel,

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<v Speaker 3>and what would happen if and then I click it

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<v Speaker 3>and they're like, oh, we will give you, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>fifty percent off next month. Thanks, And I was like, okay, bye,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just testing you. I was also being a pest

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<v Speaker 3>the other day. Sorry side note, my phone bill went

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<v Speaker 3>up and so I got on the chat. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's Sunday, I'm breastfeeding a baby girl. I have nothing

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<v Speaker 3>but time. I am ready for this conversation. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>messaging the phone company I'm with and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I want a better deal, and they were like, cool,

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<v Speaker 3>we can basically off you ten dollars off a month

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<v Speaker 3>for the next six months. And I was like nope,

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<v Speaker 3>I just googled it and you're offering this here, and

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<v Speaker 3>this here and this for new customers, and they were like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a new customer deal and I said, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, this is probably not the right thing

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<v Speaker 3>to do. But I was like, so you don't value

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<v Speaker 3>me as much as you do new customers. And they

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<v Speaker 3>were like, oh no, we definitely value your ongoing service

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. And I said, so give me a better deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Who all of a sudden, we're like, no worries, We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to transfer you to the customer retention team. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>no worries again, I have nothing but time on this bright, sunny,

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<v Speaker 3>rainy Sunday. And yeah, ended up getting the price of

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<v Speaker 3>the new customer for the next twelve fronths.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, love that.

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<v Speaker 3>You just keep pushing. I wasn't rude, but I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>so you're trying to tell me that you don't value

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<v Speaker 3>me as much as a brand new customer their heartstrings.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I quickly googled while I was on chat

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<v Speaker 3>what other companies were doing, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>well this was doing this. Could you do this? That's

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<v Speaker 3>clever anyway, We're smarter, not harder. Absolutely, we're not even smarter.

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<v Speaker 3>Just questioning their morals, Yes, it worked.

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<v Speaker 4>When the last fails, go for the heart exactly exact,

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<v Speaker 4>exactly last of this week, I've got a money lost

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<v Speaker 4>from Amanda who said their washing machine died. However, she's

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<v Speaker 4>thankful that passed. Her set up an emergency fund and

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<v Speaker 4>she was able to go shopping for a new washer

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<v Speaker 4>without having to dip into savings or use credit, and

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<v Speaker 4>their budget is still on track. I live in constant

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<v Speaker 4>fee out of the day my washing machine dies. The

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<v Speaker 4>sound that that thing makes, I can't even tell you, guys,

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<v Speaker 4>it's gonna be a fair, very very bleak day for me.

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<v Speaker 4>The rocket ship finally leaves for the moon. That's what

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<v Speaker 4>it sounds like.

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<v Speaker 3>Why goods are so expensive?

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe I will get a new one. Sorry, like three

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<v Speaker 4>thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>It's actually insect in my head. I promise. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>need to touch grass. I promise, Like I know how

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<v Speaker 3>much things cost, but I have in the back of

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<v Speaker 3>my head how much things should cost. Yeah, and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>this is from like I don't know, maybe I'm stuck

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<v Speaker 3>in two thousand and nine or twenty ten when these

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<v Speaker 3>prices were accurate. In my head, washing machine six hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>Fairy is to wash a dryer because I feel people to be.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a thousand dollars in my head, Yeah, that's expensive.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not true. No, that's not true. I promise I

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<v Speaker 3>don't need to touch grass. I know that's not accurate,

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<v Speaker 3>but like, I just have the default setting in my head,

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<v Speaker 3>so immediately when I see the price, I'm offended.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, so Amanda, proud of your girl.

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<v Speaker 3>I just offended myself so easily.

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<v Speaker 6>We have a fine one.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a market place and this is the thing, guys,

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<v Speaker 4>you gonna get me in a rant. I got this

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<v Speaker 4>question machine six or seven years ago, which is a while.

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<v Speaker 4>I understand.

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<v Speaker 3>No use washing machine as lasted forty years. I want

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<v Speaker 3>the same longevity.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, when you're paying thousand, thousands of dollars or something,

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<v Speaker 4>that doesn't feel reasonable. And so I worry that if

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<v Speaker 4>I get a second hand one. You know, I love

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<v Speaker 4>something like a second hand item, But I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 4>if my brand new one only kind of made it

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<v Speaker 4>through you know how many years, what's a second hand one?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah that makes sense. That actually doesn't make a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of sense.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you do buy a second hand one, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>call me. I'll teach you how to clean it perfect.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'll be yeah, probably not any type. I will wait,

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<v Speaker 4>I will call you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I can teach you how to clean your current one.

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<v Speaker 4>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>What have you got as a broke tip this week

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<v Speaker 3>or even three broke tips that you'd like to share

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<v Speaker 3>with us this week? Miss Beck say absolutely so.

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<v Speaker 6>This first one come from Oh gosh, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe you're listening to this. You did send me this.

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<v Speaker 6>You'll know who you are, and I know who you are,

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<v Speaker 6>but I can't remember your name off the top of

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<v Speaker 6>my head. But I'm just gonna call you mail for

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<v Speaker 6>now because I have the reel that you sent me open,

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<v Speaker 6>but not our chat. So this is a I guess

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<v Speaker 6>like a mother with a teenage child, and it's like

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<v Speaker 6>a silly one. It's like if your teenager needs driving hours,

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<v Speaker 6>but you also really want to get your bread store dash.

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<v Speaker 6>Then you smack them together and you save money by

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<v Speaker 6>not getting delivery. You make your teenage loaner driver take

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<v Speaker 6>you to the place.

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<v Speaker 3>Brilliant.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, you get those hours up. You got those hours up,

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<v Speaker 6>and you save on I don't know how much. It's

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<v Speaker 6>like the food itself on Uber eats is like a

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<v Speaker 6>lot more expensive than when you actually go, so that

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<v Speaker 6>you save me a lot of money, and also killing

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<v Speaker 6>two birds with one stone. This actually comes from Eryl,

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<v Speaker 6>who sent me a reel from Abby Echol, and some

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<v Speaker 6>people may follow Abby Echole, but basically she's saying, if

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<v Speaker 6>I wanted to divorce my husband but couldn't for financial reason,

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<v Speaker 6>and here is exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>What I do.

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<v Speaker 6>And it's a list of advice for this kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's like, I mean, I fear it won't be

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<v Speaker 6>applicable to everyone. Some people are in really really die

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<v Speaker 6>situations and some people are in like you know, financial

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<v Speaker 6>abuse situations.

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<v Speaker 3>So this might be more for but more advice, more better, more, Yes, exactly,

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<v Speaker 3>and let's just keep talking about different options and one

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<v Speaker 3>will stick for something exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>So I guess like I'll maybe I'll give the real

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<v Speaker 6>link and you guys can pretty sure just because I guess,

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<v Speaker 6>like I won't write off tips and tricks. But yes,

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's it's it's really good and if you

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<v Speaker 6>just want to go find it, Abby Echo A B

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<v Speaker 6>B Y E C K E L. I thought it

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<v Speaker 6>was a great, a great idea because a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>people are probably in this situation where they just can't

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<v Speaker 6>financially leave and it's really tricky.

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<v Speaker 3>This is going to link back. I did an episode

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<v Speaker 3>a little while ago, and I'll link that in the

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<v Speaker 3>show notes as well, with a divorce lawyer, and we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about how to prepare yourself to go through a divorce,

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<v Speaker 3>what you should be looking for not only to protect

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<v Speaker 3>your finances, but to like kind of protect yourself as well. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a good one. What's your bread tip?

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<v Speaker 6>Though? So my one my friend Indy.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys remember Indian.

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<v Speaker 3>I love Indie, she said me. Do a little shout

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<v Speaker 3>out though, because Indian you have a little podcast Indian

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<v Speaker 3>New Indian. Yeah, no, you and Indiana have a podcast, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>called Cheapskates.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>It really You're way any cackle every time you come

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<v Speaker 3>up on the feed because it is different from She's

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<v Speaker 3>on the Money. But I'm like, it is so beck

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<v Speaker 3>like it's so I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, honestly, guys, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you prepare for that episode or does just INDI

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<v Speaker 3>go let's talk about this and you go, yep, no

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<v Speaker 3>worries because like the amount of times did I watch

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<v Speaker 3>that and I'm like, did Indie prepare beck or did

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<v Speaker 3>she just like spring that on her.

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<v Speaker 6>No, she doesn't. She doesn't preay me for anything. And like,

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<v Speaker 6>so Indie feelsing but also in this way that she

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<v Speaker 6>just does everything. And then she asked me to like

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<v Speaker 6>she asked me to come to her house like three

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<v Speaker 6>o'clock on a random Monday, and then I'll come and

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<v Speaker 6>then and then before you know it, we're recording things.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fun.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't even know if you could say it's mine

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<v Speaker 6>and indies.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's indies.

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<v Speaker 6>And then I'm just there.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just hang out.

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<v Speaker 4>I just hang out. I just hang out. I just

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<v Speaker 4>hang out. But thank you, that's so nice.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you so much for the shout out.

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<v Speaker 3>Another link in the cheap.

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<v Speaker 6>And then my one, it's yeah, it's a very very

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<v Speaker 6>silly barely I guess advice. But this girl says frugal

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<v Speaker 6>things I did today, and she goes through and she

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<v Speaker 6>kind of like she'll take the lemon from her I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know, free water at the pub and take like

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<v Speaker 6>you know, a little butter cannister whatever they call things

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<v Speaker 6>from hotels and things like that. And so basically, my

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<v Speaker 6>my reminder to everyone in the world. Is that. Like,

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<v Speaker 6>if you go out and if you get like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>let's say free pub water, you can fill up your

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<v Speaker 6>bottle of water. That's that's probably eventually going to save

0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.199
<v Speaker 6>you water utility bill and money. And then you can

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<v Speaker 6>take the free lemon from the free water and put

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<v Speaker 6>that on a fish that you want to cook later.

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<v Speaker 6>There are just things the world that there are actually

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<v Speaker 6>things in the world that we could use them, and

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<v Speaker 6>we could reuse them, we could recycle them. I just say,

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<v Speaker 6>even like napkins, sometimes I have napkins from random places' expensive.

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<v Speaker 6>My fouse is full of random napkins, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>just take what is free, Take what is complimentary straws.

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<v Speaker 3>Take all the straws, not all of the No, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want straws these days.

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<v Speaker 6>No paper straws.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I cancel that if you offered me a plastic straw,

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<v Speaker 3>though I do, miss I can't. Don't come at me.

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<v Speaker 3>Do not come at me about the environment. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to hear it. I know that there are people

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<v Speaker 3>who love the environment, admit it. Plastic straw is just

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<v Speaker 3>a superior experience.

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<v Speaker 4>The solution is a like have you seen those portable

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<v Speaker 4>siliconed ones. Like I have a little key chain that

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<v Speaker 4>rolls up and it's a silicon straw, so it doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>like disintegrate things. But you can have it like with

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<v Speaker 4>you because it's small.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so good. I wouldn't wash it, so I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>cleaning expert, but that would die in the bottom of

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<v Speaker 3>my handbag.

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<v Speaker 4>Understood.

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<v Speaker 3>Why can't they give us sugar cane ones. The sugar

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<v Speaker 3>cane straws their eco friendly. There's also bamboo as an option.

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<v Speaker 3>There are so many good options. I had a grice

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<v Speaker 3>try to humble me with paper.

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<v Speaker 4>It was made out of like the same sort of

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<v Speaker 4>material as past I wasn't sugarcane, but it was like

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<v Speaker 4>same concept.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a rice one.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, yeah, like what kinds of things you can make

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<v Speaker 4>them out of?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So true. Donald's waiting to talk because you are ruining

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<v Speaker 3>my crispy coke experience.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. Oh, speaking of free ice at those owner if

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<v Speaker 6>they will have them. You know, you fuel your own

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<v Speaker 6>posts post mix coke take take take is what I'm

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<v Speaker 6>saying from the world around you.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, and don't be sorry about it.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't be sorry about it?

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<v Speaker 3>No, all right, I love that we're going to take

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<v Speaker 3>a quick break, but when we come back, we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to be getting into a money dilemma that's also a

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<v Speaker 3>work dilemma that's all wrapped up into one. So my friends,

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<v Speaker 3>stay tuned.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome back, everybody. Let's take a listen to this week's

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<v Speaker 4>money dilemma.

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<v Speaker 5>Hi, guys, I'm getting in touch because I'm hoping for

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<v Speaker 5>your thoughts on a bit of a workplace dilemma I

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<v Speaker 5>have at the moment. I'm in a really stressful role

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<v Speaker 5>at work, but I have a great team around me

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<v Speaker 5>and I have been offered to go on stress leave,

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<v Speaker 5>which I think I would benefit from because my mental

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<v Speaker 5>health has been struggling a bit lately. That said, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>very mindful of the implications of taking stress leave, that

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<v Speaker 5>this can you affect things like insurances in the future.

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<v Speaker 5>I suppose I worry about the stigma that can come

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<v Speaker 5>from that, even working in a field that is quite

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<v Speaker 5>positive towards you seeking out mental health supports. I have

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<v Speaker 5>tried to get my insurances done previous, and I have

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<v Speaker 5>accidental injury insurance. However, wasn't able to get other insurances

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<v Speaker 5>due to some other health conditions other than income protection,

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<v Speaker 5>which is through my super So I suppose I know

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<v Speaker 5>I'm already not as insurance of protectors as I would

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<v Speaker 5>like to be, and I'm just trying to navigate whether

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<v Speaker 5>or not it would be better to take stress leave

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<v Speaker 5>to kind of protect my earning potential and also just

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<v Speaker 5>general mental health, or I suppose maybe consider other options

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<v Speaker 5>like reduced workload and things like that, which I have

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<v Speaker 5>been trying but haven't been working great, just to kind

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<v Speaker 5>of try and preserve my options for the future. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 6>I think my main question is what is the difference

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<v Speaker 6>between stress leave and like annual leave or like sick leave.

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<v Speaker 3>It's usually an unpaid leave.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, and so that would and so an insurer or

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<v Speaker 6>like an underwriter would need to know if you've ever

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<v Speaker 6>taken stress leave.

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<v Speaker 3>They would want to know that and it could potentially

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<v Speaker 3>impact your mental health. Claims.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, it might be an exclusion at it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it might be an exclusion to be like, gotcha,

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<v Speaker 3>actually even though you haven't seen a psycholog and like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get into it in a second. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>shore stress. But to define it, stress leave is something

0:25:16.840 --> 0:25:19.160
<v Speaker 3>that you would take if you're genuinely stressed, and an

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<v Speaker 3>insurer might look at it and go, oh, well, we

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<v Speaker 3>know you're not diagnosed with anything, but you took stress

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<v Speaker 3>leave because of your mental health, and so we need

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<v Speaker 3>to look into that, and we're worried that you'll take

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<v Speaker 3>more extendedly and we'll have to pay for it.

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<v Speaker 6>I also, I guess this is for the listener, but

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<v Speaker 6>I wonder if your work is offering stress leave, but

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<v Speaker 6>it's not going to change the actual workload, and therefore

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<v Speaker 6>you come back from stress leave and feel stressed again

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<v Speaker 6>in like a month. It sounds like you're being overworked,

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<v Speaker 6>I would say. But even if not, maybe, like a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of people say, like separate work in life, but like, hey,

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<v Speaker 6>but the things that sometimes affect you beyond your control

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<v Speaker 6>that you can't actually keep out of the workplace. Also

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<v Speaker 6>we were working twenty four seven. I feel like so sorry.

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<v Speaker 6>At points you're gonna have to really address things that

0:26:05.520 --> 0:26:07.199
<v Speaker 6>are going on in your personal life. So it's not

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:10.639
<v Speaker 6>a problem if it's not strictly work that's overworking you.

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<v Speaker 6>But I think that if you feel like this will

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<v Speaker 6>heal you and will be really really good for your

0:26:16.680 --> 0:26:19.639
<v Speaker 6>mental health, and you'll come back and work won't be

0:26:19.720 --> 0:26:23.040
<v Speaker 6>overworking you, and you will genuinely feel less stressed and

0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:26.680
<v Speaker 6>you can kind of like continue forth feeling good, then

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<v Speaker 6>maybe it's worth it. But if you're not sure things

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:32.280
<v Speaker 6>are changing at work and you're just taking a big

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:34.879
<v Speaker 6>chunk of unpaid leave and you're going to come back

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<v Speaker 6>to that, I mean, like I would see if I

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 6>can take annually, you take sickly, you take other types

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:41.040
<v Speaker 6>of leave that I have to tell like an insurer about,

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<v Speaker 6>or even just like maybe I really am curious to

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<v Speaker 6>know why the reduce workload isn't working? Is it because

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<v Speaker 6>it's not really It's like your boss is like here,

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<v Speaker 6>you can do three days but exact same amount of work.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know that I'm curious about. Is there a

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<v Speaker 6>way where you really can delegate and reduce that workload.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's important to acknowledge that sometimes you're or

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<v Speaker 4>mental health can be specific to your mental health, it's not.

0:27:04.119 --> 0:27:06.400
<v Speaker 4>It could be completely separate from work, like when I's

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:09.360
<v Speaker 4>diagnosed anxiety and a few other fun branch of disorders

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:14.040
<v Speaker 4>from that it is. Sometimes it just is you're dealing

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.240
<v Speaker 4>with the beast and that then bleeds out into the

0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:19.320
<v Speaker 4>rest of your life. And my thought process, based on

0:27:19.359 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 4>what our listener has said, is if you're saying you've

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<v Speaker 4>tried reducing your workload and that's not helping, taking it

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<v Speaker 4>at face value, to me, that does kind of indicate

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:30.399
<v Speaker 4>that it is your mental health that's really overwhelming you.

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:34.080
<v Speaker 4>And that is totally okay, totally you hot girls have

0:27:34.080 --> 0:27:36.360
<v Speaker 4>mental health problems, Not really, but you like the two

0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:39.239
<v Speaker 4>can be synonymous. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 4>think that we as a society have come a really

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 4>long way in recognizing that. I also would argue, and

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<v Speaker 4>this could go one of two ways. It could even

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:48.720
<v Speaker 4>make you feel better, it could stress you out, and

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.119
<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry if it's the latter. But if you're at

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 4>the point where your workplace is offering you stress, leave

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:57.920
<v Speaker 4>people probably can already tell that you're really stressed and struggling.

0:27:58.040 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 5>You.

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<v Speaker 4>If I think about again myself, like when I'm having

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<v Speaker 4>a tough time, it's pretty apparent to the people around me.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh what are you talking about?

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:08.159
<v Speaker 4>You know, I think like and for I mean, I

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 4>don't know your workplace, but just thinking about like a

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:14.080
<v Speaker 4>typical classic corporate workplace, It's not the first thing they

0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:16.880
<v Speaker 4>jump up and offer typically, Like, I think it probably

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 4>is coming from a place of we think that you

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 4>need this, We think that it would be beneficial to you,

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:25.200
<v Speaker 4>probably beneficial to us, and so I kind of think

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 4>that you should take it. If I'm being honest, I

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:30.120
<v Speaker 4>think that you know, we say all the time, your

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:33.200
<v Speaker 4>mental health is so important and you need to put

0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:36.880
<v Speaker 4>yourself first. And the fact of the matter is that

0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 4>the way that society is structured is not always conducive

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 4>to looking after yourself, and especially when you are in

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 4>one of those mental health holes, sometimes every ounce of

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 4>your energy is required to pull yourself out and that

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 4>is okay. And that might mean that you need to

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:56.080
<v Speaker 4>not be working, that you need to be seeking other help,

0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:58.280
<v Speaker 4>or spending time in a space that makes you feel

0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:00.920
<v Speaker 4>safe or happy or whatever that like, for whatever you're

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 4>struggling with and I do want to say that I'm

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 4>really sorry you're struggling, like that's a really tough spot

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 4>to be and I think it's amazing that you are

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.440
<v Speaker 4>in a place where your workplace is offering that as

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:13.120
<v Speaker 4>an option. You're brave enough to consider it as an option.

0:29:13.360 --> 0:29:16.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't think you should be embarrassed or scared or anything.

0:29:17.240 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 4>You deserve to be okay, and you deserve to put

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 4>yourself first. And I think that that is the most

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 4>important thing in terms of the insurance. You know, I'm

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 4>not going to be going to say it. I'm pretty

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 4>sure We'retory is about to say it, But there are

0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 4>options available to you. And if you have exclusions that

0:29:33.320 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 4>exists already and you can't access all of the other

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:40.720
<v Speaker 4>kinds of insurances, in that case, the mental health exclusion

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't make a difference anyway, if.

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 3>You already couldn't access it. Yeah, yeah, agree, true. And

0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:49.400
<v Speaker 3>that's where I go. Are you assuming about insurance or

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 3>has your advisor told you that? Because if you've got

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 3>that insurance already implemented, well, they can't take backseat once

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 3>they've given it to you. That's why we're always advocating

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 3>that you go get your insurance is set up when

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 3>you don't have pre existing conditions, like your insurance is

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 3>not going to go, oh well, now you've taken stress leave,

0:30:06.320 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 3>we're not going to cover you. Now you're covered. If

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 3>you take stress leave, even when you've got the cover,

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 3>you might not be claiming on it, but they can't

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:16.360
<v Speaker 3>use that against you later because it was during a

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:20.080
<v Speaker 3>period of coverage. You clearly seem stressed about it, So

0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 3>please go and talk to an insurance advisor about it. Obviously,

0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 3>we work very closely with Sky Wealth and they are

0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 3>who I would talk to about, Hey, is this okay?

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Also from an employment perspective, just because I am an

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:36.320
<v Speaker 3>employer and if I had a team member that needed

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 3>to take stress leave, back on what you were saying, yess,

0:30:39.360 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 3>there would be a lot of lead up to that.

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 3>So have you used all your sick days? If so,

0:30:44.520 --> 0:30:47.960
<v Speaker 3>you're probably looking at unpaid leave. Could you potentially use

0:30:48.000 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 3>your annual leave because I don't want you to be

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 3>financially not okay? And annual leave it's not just for holidays,

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 3>like annual leave is a period of time that you

0:30:57.840 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 3>do not have to attend work, but still get to work.

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 3>So from my perspective, yes, it would be nice if

0:31:03.880 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 3>we could spend all of those days on a holiday,

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 3>but sometimes they are so that you can be paid

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 3>to just stay home in your pajamas, and that's cool,

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:15.680
<v Speaker 3>that's fine. The other thing that I think about is

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 3>why you're taking stress leave. Obviously, if it's personal, it's

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 3>very different. But if it's because of work, if it's

0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 3>because you're being bullied, or because of your workload, or

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:31.400
<v Speaker 3>because you experienced a traumatic event, work cover and workers

0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 3>compensation exist, and they can often cover paying you while

0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 3>you're off work, or even cover treatment if you need it,

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 3>and I think that that's important to look into as well.

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 3>But yes, I would be talking to your employer, but

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 3>also an insurance advisor to be like, well, I'm clearly

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:51.440
<v Speaker 3>stressed about what this means from my insurances, but I

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:53.479
<v Speaker 3>think you should be putting your mental health first. If

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:55.880
<v Speaker 3>it's not just you going, oh, I'm thinking about taking

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 3>some like some mental health leave or some stress leave,

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 3>that's very different to someone having suggested you take it,

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<v Speaker 3>because clearly it's not just you going oh, I need

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:08.479
<v Speaker 3>to put myself first, which is very important, But clearly

0:32:08.480 --> 0:32:11.239
<v Speaker 3>it's bleeding into every other area of your life and

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 3>something needs to give. Is where I would be.

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<v Speaker 4>At sending you lots of love. Yeah, hope you feel

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<v Speaker 4>better and don't feel bad about whatever journey you have

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 4>to take. That's totally okay. You're important and valued and

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 4>special and we love you completely.

0:32:25.200 --> 0:32:26.880
<v Speaker 3>It's time for our DM of the week, where you

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 3>guys slide into our dms with a dilemma that you

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 3>would like us to group, source and solve. And this

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 3>week we've got a really good one. And I feel

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 3>like everyone's going to know what I'm going to say,

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 3>but I want to know what you guys are going

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 3>to say. Hi, she's on the money. I have a

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:42.840
<v Speaker 3>dilemma and I would love to hear your advice and

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:45.719
<v Speaker 3>thoughts from the community. My partner, his siblings, and his

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 3>parents have a financial advisor that they all use and

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 3>has helped to set them up in a shared self

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:54.120
<v Speaker 3>managed super fund. Recently, my partner and I have had

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:57.800
<v Speaker 3>big conversations around planning our financial future. We decided to

0:32:57.800 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 3>meet with their financial advisor to discuss our options. I'm

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 3>not paying for the advice, as it's been covered under

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:07.240
<v Speaker 3>their family agreement. After doing some research, I have found

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 3>out that this financial advisor does not currently hold an

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 3>AFS cell, which is an Australian financial services license. My

0:33:15.720 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 3>partner and his family are aware and they don't feel

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 3>that this is an issue at all. I'm concerned about

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 3>the implications of receiving financial advice from an unlicensed advisor,

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<v Speaker 3>especially free advice. I also am uncomfortable discussing strategies involving

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<v Speaker 3>us making contributions to an SMSF that I am not

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<v Speaker 3>a part of.

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<v Speaker 6>What would you do? Oh, this is sounding like who

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:41.880
<v Speaker 6>the hell is Hamish?

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<v Speaker 3>And we had her on the show? Really?

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:33:44.880 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 6>Oh sorry, I should.

0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 3>Know as in that was a messed up like story, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>isn't it?

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 3>No, we had her on the show, Tracy, she was

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<v Speaker 3>an icon, scanned her out of all of her super

0:33:56.680 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 3>ill for that in those show notes.

0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 2>Love.

0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like we went through her story because obviously we

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:07.840
<v Speaker 3>know who the hell is Hamish? Yes, Hamish McLaren for

0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:11.920
<v Speaker 3>those of you who didn't know, absolute scam artist, scammed

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 3>lots and lots and lots of people, have a true crime.

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:17.279
<v Speaker 6>And I think he was convincing people to set up

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 6>a self managed super fun Yeah exactly, and he was unlicensed,

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 6>and so I'm like, this is sounding a bit dodgy,

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:27.720
<v Speaker 6>but who knows. Let's say, for the sake of everyone's

0:34:28.160 --> 0:34:32.200
<v Speaker 6>nervous system that it's not a scam and this is real. God,

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 6>I guess there's really there's not a lot you could do.

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 6>I think I would subtly show them who the hell

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 6>is Hamish podcast? It is quite a I'm sorry for

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.439
<v Speaker 6>anyone who's listening who's like, I have no idea who

0:34:44.440 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 6>that is all what you're talking about. It's a podcast,

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 6>but there's a bunch of people, women who were unfortunately

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:53.359
<v Speaker 6>scammed out of lots of money, and I think all

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 6>their super but I don't know, So I would just be,

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:01.359
<v Speaker 6>I guess, gently guiding them.

0:35:00.800 --> 0:35:04.879
<v Speaker 3>To You're so kind, so gentle. It's just a.

0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Speaker 6>Tricky one because you can't really like especially I think

0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 6>if you're like in the headspace we like, no, this

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:12.839
<v Speaker 6>really is like your perception is your reality. And if

0:35:12.880 --> 0:35:14.799
<v Speaker 6>you think this is the best thing for you, and

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 6>you are like urgently like, no, this is this is

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:22.399
<v Speaker 6>the best way forward, you unfortunately won't listen to other

0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:25.560
<v Speaker 6>kind of points of view, unless maybe you heard a

0:35:25.640 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 6>story that sounded very very similar, very like you know

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 6>your story adjacent or there are a lot of parallels

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 6>between this story and one that goes horribly awry. Only

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 6>then might you think, oh, this is probably not the

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 6>best idea. But unfortunately there's just not a lot you

0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:45.239
<v Speaker 6>can do when if especially like a few people are there,

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 6>or you know, maybe in an echo chamber of some kind. Yeah,

0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 6>I would say, just gently guiding, it's my thing.

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:55.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so kind of you, Jessica.

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm just going to put it out there. You actually

0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:00.239
<v Speaker 4>legally can't call yourself a financial device or if you

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:02.640
<v Speaker 4>don't hold a financial advice license in Australia.

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 3>The way I'm sitting here holding my child, I.

0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 4>Trying so hard best see they're not a financial advisor.

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 4>They could be a retired financial advisor as our queping you.

0:36:12.440 --> 0:36:15.080
<v Speaker 3>Advice because I'm retired, I'm not aud It is.

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 4>Actually illegal for you to receive personalized advice somebody.

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm gentle. No we're not gentle, I see, no gentle.

0:36:22.880 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 4>It actually also is illegal for you to receive general

0:36:25.200 --> 0:36:27.359
<v Speaker 4>advice if you don't hold so we as a show

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:30.360
<v Speaker 4>and Victoria as an individual hold a general advice license,

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:32.839
<v Speaker 4>so we are licensed to provide you general advice only.

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:35.000
<v Speaker 4>That's why we always say nothing we say is personal

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:38.720
<v Speaker 4>advice obviously, So this person physically cannot be a financial

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 4>advisor if they don't hold any kind of AFSL. Beyond that,

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 4>I would say, it's red flag city exactly. It's a

0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 4>kind of all it's flashing the odd red light. I

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 4>would absolutely not be taking advice. The only thing I

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 4>can think of the only way that I would maybe

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:56.600
<v Speaker 4>be a little bit okay with this, but also not

0:36:56.719 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 4>really because it's not like again, not on the up

0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:01.720
<v Speaker 4>and up. Is like if you had a family friend

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 4>who once upon a time was a financial advisor, and

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:06.600
<v Speaker 4>you know they took a look at things for you

0:37:06.600 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 4>once in a while they said, look, I can't tell

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:09.279
<v Speaker 4>you what I would do, but like, if it was me,

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:12.160
<v Speaker 4>maybe I would do these things. Not that anyone would

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:15.600
<v Speaker 4>never do. No, like I could cont say that, but

0:37:15.760 --> 0:37:17.920
<v Speaker 4>it sounds like there is an official agree there's a

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 4>family plan in place. You're paying them, or your parents

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 4>and your partner are paying them for a family plan

0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 4>advice license, which again they can't legally be providing you

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.560
<v Speaker 4>if they don't hold an AFSL. So I'm very confused

0:37:31.680 --> 0:37:35.480
<v Speaker 4>by the whole thing, and I would be just reminding

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:38.200
<v Speaker 4>your parents and partner of exactly that, like they actually,

0:37:39.000 --> 0:37:42.920
<v Speaker 4>like I think, even if the super concept is solid,

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:45.560
<v Speaker 4>like let's say they know what they're talking about by

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:48.799
<v Speaker 4>the grace of God, like their recommendations are good, they

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 4>still legally cannot be taking your money for advice.

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 4>Like that is literally I keep saying the word illegal.

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:58.160
<v Speaker 4>I'd really try to hammer they can't do that.

0:37:59.120 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 3>She said it's free.

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:00.839
<v Speaker 6>No, or something else is free.

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 4>Putn't something else is free or that.

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:03.799
<v Speaker 3>The advice is free the advice is free?

0:38:03.840 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, sorry, sorry, sorry I'm saying I think our

0:38:05.880 --> 0:38:07.800
<v Speaker 4>listener was saying the advice is free because she doesn't

0:38:07.800 --> 0:38:10.319
<v Speaker 4>pay for the plan, but the family I'm assuming you're

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 4>paying for the family plan. Sorry of course, Okay, because

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:15.480
<v Speaker 4>nothing in this life is free. Let's be Yeah. I

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 4>don't know the whole thing. I just think no. And

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 4>also I completely agree with what they've what our listener

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 4>has raised in that I would personally not be contributing

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:26.919
<v Speaker 4>to an SMSF that is not mine with my retirement money.

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:29.000
<v Speaker 4>That makes no sense. You need to protect yourself. Dealer M.

0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:32.120
<v Speaker 4>That's all for me, Thank you.

0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 6>Very well, said I can see itching to get there.

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:37.239
<v Speaker 3>The button has passed to me. Yes, bestie, I'm going

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 3>to hold your hand when I say this, and I'm

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:42.279
<v Speaker 3>just going to be really direct. This is one of

0:38:42.320 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 3>those situations where your gut is telling you exactly what

0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:48.240
<v Speaker 3>it needs to tell you. Run. If someone is giving

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:51.719
<v Speaker 3>financial a device in Australia without holding an AFSL or

0:38:51.760 --> 0:38:54.320
<v Speaker 3>being authorized under one, it is not a gray area.

0:38:55.560 --> 0:38:58.799
<v Speaker 3>It is a red crimson flag. And that is not

0:38:58.920 --> 0:39:02.319
<v Speaker 3>a different approach, not just like a personality preference. It's

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.399
<v Speaker 3>a compliance issue and it is illegal, and I can

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:09.320
<v Speaker 3>guarantee that the person issuing that advice knows that because

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:13.359
<v Speaker 3>you don't talk about financial advice without googling products, without

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:17.319
<v Speaker 3>talking about smsfs, without stumbling across the fact that you

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 3>should be licensed. Like ASK does not look kindly onto

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.759
<v Speaker 3>these things, and people go to like it's not just

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 3>just being like, oh, it's illegal, like I said, slap

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:27.600
<v Speaker 3>on the wrisk.

0:39:27.640 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 4>You go to jailah whoa.

0:39:29.400 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 3>Like ten plus years forgiving unauthorized advice. That is why

0:39:34.120 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 3>I am so scared of it. It is a one

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:39.880
<v Speaker 3>million dollar fine and ten years in jail.

0:39:40.560 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 4>It's big illegal.

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:45.840
<v Speaker 3>It's like illegal, like people have done worse things I

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:50.280
<v Speaker 3>would argue than give illegal financial advice and gotten less

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:52.120
<v Speaker 3>time in jail and less of a fine.

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:54.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, oh my god.

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:57.840
<v Speaker 3>And it matters because the license is what's going to

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 3>protect you. So like it's it's not just like, oh,

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:03.480
<v Speaker 3>Victoria needs to be licensed to give advice. It means

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:06.280
<v Speaker 3>that I've been given a rule book around how advice

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 3>is given, what disclosures I need to give you, what

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:12.720
<v Speaker 3>conflicts exist, what documentation, and what happens if something goes wrong?

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 3>How do you sue me? How do you make sure

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:17.400
<v Speaker 3>that you're not in a worse off position because I

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 3>gave you shitty advice?

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:18.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:21.720
<v Speaker 6>And if that is important, they were a financial advisors,

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 6>they would know this, so maybe they weren't ever.

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and without that, you have no recourse, Like with

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:29.840
<v Speaker 3>if you go take this advice and it doesn't work

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 3>and you end up in a worse off financial position,

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:36.160
<v Speaker 3>be Yeah, there's no recourse. So the fact that the

0:40:36.200 --> 0:40:39.359
<v Speaker 3>advice is free is actually I guess a bonus. You're

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 3>not spending money on advice that's probably going to lose

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 3>your money. If anything, I think that should be more

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 3>of a red flag because good advisors charge for their

0:40:47.600 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 3>advice because it's going to make you a lot of money.

0:40:50.440 --> 0:40:53.919
<v Speaker 3>Because financial advice. Financial advice is not free, like full

0:40:53.920 --> 0:40:56.000
<v Speaker 3>stop end of story is just not free. There's usually

0:40:56.000 --> 0:40:58.680
<v Speaker 3>a structure or an incentive behind it, even if it's

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:03.239
<v Speaker 3>not super odd upfront, like be aware, take everything with

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 3>a grain of like, someone somewhere along that line is

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:10.520
<v Speaker 3>going to be making money. Ask yourself, who ask yourself?

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 3>When the other big red flag for me? SMSF. We

0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:16.840
<v Speaker 3>know how I personally feel about this, doesn't mean that

0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:19.560
<v Speaker 3>it is a terrible structure. No, smsfs are real cool

0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 3>in theory. SMSF is a self managed super fund, and

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 3>I love the idea of being in control. But with

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:29.320
<v Speaker 3>compliance in twenty twenty six, they are really a good option.

0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:31.919
<v Speaker 3>And when I say really, I mean if you don't

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 3>have like half a million dollars in your superannuation fund,

0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 3>I probably wouldn't even blink, Like I wouldn't even consider

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:42.960
<v Speaker 3>it because the fees, the compliance, the accounting, the audit,

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 3>all of that stuff is just too much. And you

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 3>being asked to contribute to someone else's super Hey, bet,

0:41:50.719 --> 0:41:52.839
<v Speaker 3>can you put your money in my super I'll share

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 3>it with you later. Literally why. I know that makes

0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 3>no sense. That's not a financial decision. That's control, that's ownership,

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 3>that's legal structure, and that's you not having future access

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:04.800
<v Speaker 3>to your own money.

0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 6>I don't like this.

0:42:07.320 --> 0:42:08.880
<v Speaker 3>I do not want you to be in a position

0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 3>where your superannuation is tied up in something where you're

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:16.440
<v Speaker 3>not a trustee, you're not a beneficiary, you don't have

0:42:16.520 --> 0:42:19.319
<v Speaker 3>full visibility. But not only do you not have full visibility,

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:22.440
<v Speaker 3>you don't have full access. Sorry, what the hell is that?

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:25.279
<v Speaker 3>Even if it's well intentioned, because I'm not saying his

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:27.040
<v Speaker 3>parents are doing the wrong thing, they might have been

0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 3>swindled by this little scammer. That's me being block. They

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:33.839
<v Speaker 3>are a scammer. That is not okay. Like, even if

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 3>the family is comfortable for it, even if they've worked

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:39.719
<v Speaker 3>so hard and like maybe there's millions in there, I

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 3>do not care. This is your financial future, not some

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:48.399
<v Speaker 3>family group project. But everybody else absolutely not. I'm just no,

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 3>I want to like smack them and be.

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 4>Like get down flicking the head.

0:42:52.440 --> 0:42:55.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like flick them in the head. So we ask

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<v Speaker 3>the community, would you feel comfortable taking advice from an

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<v Speaker 3>unlie sensed advisor?

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<v Speaker 4>Can't imagine many people, but yes, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>More than I thought would say yes. I'm like, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>what the hell are you doing? Eighty four percent said no,

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<v Speaker 3>but sixteen percent of you said yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh well, but only again. The only way I can

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<v Speaker 4>picture people say yes is like that previously mentioned example.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, I just think you pressed the wrong button. Yeah, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 3>Next question I asked because anyone had experience with family

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<v Speaker 3>run SMSs, because I was like, is this a thing

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm not aware of? Ninety three percent of you

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<v Speaker 3>said no, but then seven percent of you said yes. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I then asked, would you get a second opinion, even

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<v Speaker 3>if it calls tension? And thank god, ninety eight percent

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<v Speaker 3>of you said you would.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, good, good good.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I said, guys, what's your two cents? It did

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<v Speaker 3>get spicy, so I'm just going to scrape a whole

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<v Speaker 3>heap off the top because there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>opinion Okay, girl, no, get out. Yeah. Some of you

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<v Speaker 3>were dramatic and like same, it's good summary. Both of

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<v Speaker 3>us were like bestie, no, no, like get down, bad dog,

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<v Speaker 3>like no. Someone else said, to their decision, it's their money.

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<v Speaker 3>They're probably happy with the advice. It doesn't mean you

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<v Speaker 3>need to take it. Someone else said, absolutely not, I

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<v Speaker 3>would not be putting my money into that fund. Another

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<v Speaker 3>person just did as many red flags as fitted in

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<v Speaker 3>the question box. Someone else said, girl, that's all too

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<v Speaker 3>close for me. Something similar happened and I had to

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<v Speaker 3>start from scratch, sorry to hear. Another person said, not

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<v Speaker 3>every advisor has their own AFSL. Lots trade under a

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<v Speaker 3>big umbrella, so maybe check that first.

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<v Speaker 4>But that would still be if you got onto the directory,

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<v Speaker 4>it still shows who is yeah, like if you.

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<v Speaker 3>Look up the name. So when I was a financial advisor,

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<v Speaker 3>I never owned my own AFSL. Yes, And the reason

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't was one they are incredibly expensive and very complex.

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<v Speaker 3>But usually an AFSL is owned by a really big

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<v Speaker 3>organization that you then pay as a financial advisor to

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<v Speaker 3>protect you because they've got their own compliance team, they've

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<v Speaker 3>got their own legal team. I've got, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a structure of how that AFSL gives advice and receives advice.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I was always licensed under somebody else's AFSL.

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<v Speaker 3>Having my own would have been a compliance nightmare. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't afford a compliance team.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's still outlined in the directory, right like when

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<v Speaker 4>ow I'm Solis somewhere and looked up you would say,

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<v Speaker 4>if you looked up us, we are a latency of

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<v Speaker 4>money shap RPTIL. She did it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, And if you look up me and you

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<v Speaker 3>look up my name, it will give you my history.

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<v Speaker 3>So it won't just say, oh, yeah, Victoria's licensed to

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<v Speaker 3>give general advice tick box. It will say Victoria's currently

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<v Speaker 3>licensed to give general advice through this person. You can

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<v Speaker 3>contact them here. Previously she had this AFSL and was

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<v Speaker 3>allowed to give this advice between this date and this date. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>it is very detailed, and it will not only just say, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>Victoria is a licensed advisor. It will say in these areas.

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<v Speaker 3>So it will say Victoria was licensed to give investment advice,

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<v Speaker 3>superannuation advice, insurance advice, this, that the other. And this

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<v Speaker 3>is why I'm always like check because some people are

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<v Speaker 3>only licensed give like budgeting and cash flow advice. Maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they don't have the extra qualifications to give you know,

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<v Speaker 3>direct share advice. Yeah, and that's where if you're getting

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<v Speaker 3>direct share advice from somebody who's only licensed to give

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<v Speaker 3>budget and cash flow advice, I'm like, even though they're licensed,

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<v Speaker 3>they're not licensed enough. So there's like a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of nuance to it. A lot of people said run,

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people said never do something that you're

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<v Speaker 3>not comfortable with, listen to your gut. And then someone said,

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<v Speaker 3>go along with it. You can always ignore the advice,

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<v Speaker 3>but maybe collect some information along the way.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, look.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on the same team as you. I agree. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want that to happen, but I also think it's

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<v Speaker 3>really important to kind of like feel it out. Like

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<v Speaker 3>when you say they don't own their own AFSL, do

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<v Speaker 3>they don't? They same like, look them up, but I

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<v Speaker 3>would just type their name into the financial advisor look

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<v Speaker 3>up and if they're not there, they're not there.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I dare say, just google them. If they sounding

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<v Speaker 6>very scamy, maybe someone else has been here.

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<v Speaker 4>Done that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's a good one as well, Kuino.

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<v Speaker 3>But mainly all of the comments were people aggressively being

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<v Speaker 3>like run. Yeah, ye all right. Well that is a

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<v Speaker 3>wrap for us, my friends. Thank you for joining us

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<v Speaker 3>for another Friday drinks where we're going to hang out

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<v Speaker 3>with our little community, and we love you all, so

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<v Speaker 3>have a good weekend and we'll see you right early

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<v Speaker 3>on Monday morning for a Money Diaries by guys so.

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