WEBVTT - Dating a Narcissist 

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<v Speaker 1>If you play with their head, it's going to keep

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<v Speaker 1>pulling off. Brittany, she's talking about my microphone. Guys, am

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<v Speaker 1>I Hi, guys, and welcome back to another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Life Uncut. I'm Laura, and I'm Brittany and psych This

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<v Speaker 1>is our Tuesday episode. On Thursday. I know we've done

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<v Speaker 1>the whole switcher room. If you listen to Tuesday's episode,

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<v Speaker 1>then you would know this week. We did ask guncut

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday, which means that today is the big, meaty episode,

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<v Speaker 1>just the way you like it. And we do have

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<v Speaker 1>a big one to unpack today, but we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to get in there yet. Let's unpack our life, Laura.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we keep talking about meeting and getting in there?

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<v Speaker 1>That gets you going, doesn't it. It's the little things

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<v Speaker 1>these days, isn't it. Oh? Well, yeah, the small thrills,

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<v Speaker 1>the cheap thrills. Anyway, what have you been doing in

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<v Speaker 1>the last forty eight hours? So I a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, I was telling you guys about how I

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<v Speaker 1>was really really anxious about getting Mally into daycare, and

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<v Speaker 1>today we had orientation. She's in my wild anxiety has

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<v Speaker 1>not subsided at all. I spent the whole time, one

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<v Speaker 1>hour of orientation, and this lovely lady was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>like talk me through like the day and what they

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<v Speaker 1>do and what they eat and all this stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>all my brain was doing was looking at small things

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground, being like, that's a choking hazard. That

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<v Speaker 1>right there is a joking hazard. That boy's got her

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<v Speaker 1>eye on her, that's a choking hazard. Why has that

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<v Speaker 1>kid got an ice back on his head? What did

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<v Speaker 1>he run into? What happened to you? She's definitely gonna

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<v Speaker 1>run into something. She's gonna fall over, she's gonna have scratches,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can stop. That doesn't make me feel any better,

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<v Speaker 1>but it should, because this is life. You're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>knocked down. She's gonna want to get back up real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how you teach your kids a bit of resilience.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that this is going to probably teach

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<v Speaker 1>me a bit of resilience as well. I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be a really hard time for you

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<v Speaker 1>at the start, and then I think you're gonna love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you're not gonna know yourself having all this

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<v Speaker 1>extra time. You're gonna love that. She's socializing and she's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make little friends. She's gonna have an amazing time.

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<v Speaker 1>So she starts next week, and I figure by about

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<v Speaker 1>the three or four week mark, I'll probably just drop

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<v Speaker 1>her off in the morning and forget that I even

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<v Speaker 1>put her there. Yeah, you went back a week later

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<v Speaker 1>and pick her up. Yeah you don't even know who

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<v Speaker 1>she is. Yeah, she's got a boyfriend, a tattoo, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's moving out on Friday. You be back home drinking margaritas.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me how your day has been. I've seen you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I haven't seen you for a whole twelve hours,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's been a long twelve hours. My day. I

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<v Speaker 1>had the day at the hospital. I went to a

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<v Speaker 1>fancy pants lunch for an hour and it was brilliant.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I just came home and worked got ghost to

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<v Speaker 1>buy guy I was seeing. But we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that. Actually we are going to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week Brittany had a boyfriend and this week he's

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<v Speaker 1>gone missing. She uses that term loosely. I was going

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<v Speaker 1>on some dates with a guy, but he has dis

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<v Speaker 1>Should we start putting out the missing person poster? At

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<v Speaker 1>what point? Like, how many days can you go without

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<v Speaker 1>hearing from a guy before you have been categorically ghosted.

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<v Speaker 1>Where does it? Where does it? I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it depends on how it ended. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>have a message team. Since it's been like four days,

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<v Speaker 1>just adding another one to the list. Single and you're

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<v Speaker 1>thirty guys, If you haven't listened to that episode yet,

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<v Speaker 1>we highly recommend get on it. It's a bloody battleground

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<v Speaker 1>out there. But you know what this behavior has been.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we like to kind of pretend like it's

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<v Speaker 1>new age, like that the ghosting is a new thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Ghosting has been around for forever except forever. Except back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day. It probably it would happen in like

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<v Speaker 1>a less significant way, like obviously if someone didn't call

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<v Speaker 1>your landline again, they were gone. You didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to them. The problem with ghosting now is that

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<v Speaker 1>you can check up on them on social media. You

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<v Speaker 1>can check up on them and see what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can be like, oh, well, I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>not dead. But back in the day, you just wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>hear from them, and you'd be like, oh, they've been

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<v Speaker 1>abducted by aliens. Anal probing. It's the only thing that

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense. Anal property he'll prove it. It's not the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing that makes sense, but I love that that's

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<v Speaker 1>the conclusion you've gone to. Naturally, no look in all honesty.

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<v Speaker 1>I could have also contacted him. We both went away

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<v Speaker 1>for the week, we saw each other before the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>we went away for the weekend. Neither of us have

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<v Speaker 1>contact each other. So I'm probably as bad as him.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did send the last text, so that makes

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<v Speaker 1>me feel better. It's also still early days, like you

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<v Speaker 1>could probably will hear from him again. But my question,

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<v Speaker 1>my other question is I have a few questions and

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<v Speaker 1>feelings about this. We love. That is how many days

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<v Speaker 1>can pass before you get that hey, how you been

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<v Speaker 1>text And it be okay if you haven't seen it

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<v Speaker 1>or heard from him for like six months and he's like, hey, sup,

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<v Speaker 1>what have you been doing? Or is it like a

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<v Speaker 1>week like where's that line in the sand where you're like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well we were texting every day and now I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>heard from you for two weeks. Now after two weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, hey, babe, who di is? That's my response? Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a new number. Hey Bay, Sorry I deleted

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<v Speaker 1>my context? Who is this? I know? Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to know another thing. I've started my half marathon training.

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<v Speaker 1>I went for what my first run. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, you wake up those days, actually you

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<v Speaker 1>might not know. You wake up those days you feel

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<v Speaker 1>extra motivated. You're like, I'm gonna go and slay the

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<v Speaker 1>fitness world. Yeah. No, I can't relate. But that's okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's the that's I don't like running, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing this half marathon. So I was like, I woke

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<v Speaker 1>up and I was like, this is the day. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on it. I had a fake tan on, so I

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<v Speaker 1>felt good. I put my shorts on, put my runners on.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't laugh. Fake tan makes everything better. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go and start training. I went on this

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<v Speaker 1>one run, pulled my muscle and had to like limp back.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is disaster. Contrary to popular belief,

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<v Speaker 1>fake tan does not make you run fast. That no,

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get into an accidentally unfiltered All right, guys, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it is time for our favorite part of the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is when you send in your most embarrassing

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<v Speaker 1>stories and we all laugh at you together like the beautiful, wonderful,

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<v Speaker 1>heartfelt community that we are kick it off. I was

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<v Speaker 1>so deep, deep like a puddle. Guys. All right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I just started a new job and my boss is

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<v Speaker 1>freaking hot. I'm talking like ten out of ten and

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<v Speaker 1>crash your scooter type hoot. To anyone who listened to

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<v Speaker 1>the episode a few weeks ago, you would get that reference.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the guy that ghosted me. After working in

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<v Speaker 1>a female dominated industry for the last few years, you

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<v Speaker 1>can imagine my excitement at this. So of course I

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<v Speaker 1>told all of my friends about my new boss day

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<v Speaker 1>in COVID fashion, I had to do all my training online,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning zoom calls with the man himself. Day one on

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<v Speaker 1>the job and I had my first zoom meeting with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I was having some technical difficulties, so I shared my

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<v Speaker 1>screen so that he could see what I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>on my computer, and, to my absolute fucking horror, minutes

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<v Speaker 1>into sharing my screen, a notification popped up front and

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<v Speaker 1>center from my best friends saying, hey, babe, so when's

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<v Speaker 1>the call start with your future hottie hobby. Aha. I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to hide it as quickly as I could, being

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<v Speaker 1>the absolute ten out of ten that he years. He

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<v Speaker 1>acted like he didn't see anything but that didn't stop

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<v Speaker 1>me from going bright red and him also laughing for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the meeting. I'm planning your funeral now.

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<v Speaker 1>I just love this. Do you know how many stories

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<v Speaker 1>I have now heard about people sharing their screen and

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<v Speaker 1>having like super inappropriate tabs open. I have heard no stories,

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<v Speaker 1>but I love this so much. I was on a

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<v Speaker 1>Zoom meeting just recently. This is a totally different thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was on a Zoom meeting recently, and I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>convinced the person I was on a Zoom meeting with

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<v Speaker 1>just farted and kept talking. They would have for sure

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<v Speaker 1>so good they were, but also based in Melbourne, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's totally excusable. All like sense of self has kind

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<v Speaker 1>of gone out the window. Do you know, just because

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<v Speaker 1>they're in Melbourne? Yeah, because you been in lockdown? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you true? True? I mean we were only in lockdown

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<v Speaker 1>for a few weeks and I had to train myself

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<v Speaker 1>not to far in public again. But I'm like a

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<v Speaker 1>boss anyway. But no, So I've received messages that have

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<v Speaker 1>come in. We've received messages that have come in which

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<v Speaker 1>haven't been like full accidentally unfiltered stories, but people who

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<v Speaker 1>have accidentally shared their screen with colleagues or bosses, and

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<v Speaker 1>they've had like porn tabs or dildo or sex shops

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<v Speaker 1>or things open as well. So I think that this

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<v Speaker 1>has happened more than once. I'm gonna tell you my

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<v Speaker 1>accidentally Unfiltered that I'm bringing to the table today because

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<v Speaker 1>it's fucking brilliant. I'm just gonna I'm just retelling the story, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>because this lovely lady, she actually voicemailed in her story,

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<v Speaker 1>so she DMed us with a voice memo on Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>because she just thought it was so funny. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna retell you the story. Basically, she's seen this guy.

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<v Speaker 1>She was super, super super into him. She thought he

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<v Speaker 1>was so hot. Now this woman does something that I

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<v Speaker 1>used to do. You might remember when the way that

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<v Speaker 1>accidentally unfiltered started. If you guys are an original listener,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll know that it started because my sister and I

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<v Speaker 1>do this thing where we send each other photos and

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<v Speaker 1>videos of our day. We've logged to each other, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's always ugly photos. We're always trying to out ugly

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<v Speaker 1>each other, like in the most hideous costumes. I accidentally

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<v Speaker 1>sent one of those to a guy I was seen

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<v Speaker 1>and that is how accidentally unfiltered it started. So fast

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<v Speaker 1>forward a year. This girl's gone on this really hot

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<v Speaker 1>date and she does the same thing with her best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>They vlog their days to each other, which is very

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<v Speaker 1>modern day. This is very gen y. Basically, like they

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<v Speaker 1>take a little video like hey babe, like today, blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah, and then they send it instead of having

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<v Speaker 1>to have a phone call or instead of calling or texting,

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<v Speaker 1>they just constantly take the video recording and send it

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<v Speaker 1>to each other. So she's got on this date with

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<v Speaker 1>this guy who she thinks is fucking the ants pants.

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<v Speaker 1>So she gets home, she puts on her big pink,

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<v Speaker 1>ugly fluffy dressing gown. She's taken a makeup off, so

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<v Speaker 1>she's got her hair and top not no makeup. When

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<v Speaker 1>she got this big hideous, ugly, pink fluffy dressing gown,

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<v Speaker 1>and she goes to town on the vlog to her

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<v Speaker 1>friend saying how amazing the date was, how hot he was,

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<v Speaker 1>how in love she is, how she thinks it's the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing ever. She goes on and on and on,

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<v Speaker 1>and she makes a point of being really ugly in

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<v Speaker 1>the video because that's what's funny with her friend and

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<v Speaker 1>sends it to a friend and then goes, fuck, she

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<v Speaker 1>sent it to the guy she's just been on the

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<v Speaker 1>date with. Now this I know you think that this

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get better, but it does because she had just

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<v Speaker 1>been on the date with him and she was like

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<v Speaker 1>feeling him out. So she's like, so, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>where do you see this going? Like what are you

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<v Speaker 1>looking for? And he goes definitely not looking for a relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>looking something really casual. She's like, oh, totally like me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just like super casu as well gets home ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes later and vlogs him how we're getting married. I've

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<v Speaker 1>already hit that they knew the date and the people

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<v Speaker 1>who are doing the flowers. It's gonna beautiful. Keep the

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<v Speaker 1>eleventh of November free. I actually I was dying, like

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't stop laughing, and my heart goes out to

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. She laughed it off. She was like, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you do? Actually, what do you do? Nothing? You

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<v Speaker 1>own it. The voice memo came through when Britt had

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<v Speaker 1>come over to my house, so we both got to

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<v Speaker 1>listen to this back together and simultaneously died on the

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<v Speaker 1>couch for you you're out there you're listening, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>We might be laughing at you, but we're really laughing

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<v Speaker 1>with you. But don't worry. I'm laughing so much because

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<v Speaker 1>I've done exactly the same thing. So I feel for you,

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<v Speaker 1>but bless your soul. I hope you do marry him.

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<v Speaker 1>I have another one. I know that, like we usually

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<v Speaker 1>only do tit for tat, but I'm gonna check another

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<v Speaker 1>one out here anyway, because this is like really innocent.

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<v Speaker 1>I love her when people ride in there like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is my friend's story, you know, as a girl. A

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<v Speaker 1>friend of mine recently told me this story and I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to share it with you guys. So she was

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<v Speaker 1>expecting her sister and little nephew to come for morning tea.

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<v Speaker 1>So when she heard the doorbell ring, she got super

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<v Speaker 1>excited and she opened the door on her knees, expecting

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<v Speaker 1>her little nephew, only to find that she was staring

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<v Speaker 1>at crotch height to a delivery man. Now, what makes

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<v Speaker 1>this thing worse is that she opened the door saying hello,

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<v Speaker 1>little man with her arms out wide. I love he

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<v Speaker 1>would have been like a bing go just staring straight

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<v Speaker 1>at the guy's pain. Anyway, I am dead. I love

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<v Speaker 1>it a little man. I have one more too. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not getting into the episode today, guys, I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy this. Twenty five minutes of accidentally unfiltered stories and

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<v Speaker 1>that's a wrap. This is one more. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a friend, I'm not gonna name his name, but

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<v Speaker 1>I have a friend that's like a solid gamer. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>a gamer that I don't know if you guys aren't

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<v Speaker 1>into gaming. They wear their headphones, they play video games

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<v Speaker 1>in their lund room, but they connect, they're talking live it.

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<v Speaker 1>Weireds me out. I once had to wear a virtual

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<v Speaker 1>reality gaming mask. I didn't have to, but like I

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<v Speaker 1>chose to, stating a guy who was wearing one and

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<v Speaker 1>I and I put it on. But I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>that you can do virtual reality porn, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>looked down. They had a dick. Did you do virtual

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<v Speaker 1>reality porn? How have you never told me this? Will

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<v Speaker 1>we have a dating relationship sex podcasts? He was, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a thing. We need to unpack this another day,

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<v Speaker 1>another episode. Continue with your story. This is this guy

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<v Speaker 1>that's a gamer, right, He's got his headphones on, he's

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<v Speaker 1>in his laund room. He's deep in this game and

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<v Speaker 1>he's talking to like ten other people around the world

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<v Speaker 1>because they're playing against each other, but they're all connected

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<v Speaker 1>by microphone. His girlfriend comes in and she's frisky af

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<v Speaker 1>so she's like, whoa, let's do this. He's like, boys,

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<v Speaker 1>I am out, throws his mic and things down, logs off,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they go to town having hardcore sex in

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<v Speaker 1>the lound room. Hardcore. He bought swings and wits and

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<v Speaker 1>belts and stuff. Loud hard sex. Did not turn his

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<v Speaker 1>microphone off. So the ten people around the world that

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<v Speaker 1>his friends that he talks to order every day just

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<v Speaker 1>all sat there listen having sex and they couldn't reach him.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like yelling in the headphones, like like he

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<v Speaker 1>could stop, and it's just they just went to town.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of trauma right there. That's a suppressed

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<v Speaker 1>trauma that's gonna need to use the therapy. Thank god,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't video. It was just mike Like. That's that's something.

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<v Speaker 1>If there's anything as as a plus you can take

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<v Speaker 1>away from this is that it wasn't recorded. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just sound and you can always mute that. Like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they were volunteering to listen to that. They didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to listen you would you did virtual reality porn sex.

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<v Speaker 1>I never did the sex. I just like wore it

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<v Speaker 1>and like we virtually did it. It's a whole point. You

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<v Speaker 1>have a penis. It's very strange. You're so every week

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<v Speaker 1>there's something else that's weird U And I'm like, how

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<v Speaker 1>have we gotten to this point of our relationship? And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know this. I'm just a bundle of surprises

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<v Speaker 1>for you, Brittany, Like I put virtual reality on, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was like running through a daisy field. Well, that

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<v Speaker 1>just really shows the differences between you and me as

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<v Speaker 1>a person, doesn't it. I think that that right there

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<v Speaker 1>has just perfectly summed up our relationship. Drives it home,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't it, Guys? Before we get into the full topic today,

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<v Speaker 1>today we're talking about narcissistic personality disorder. We're also talking

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<v Speaker 1>about just narcissism in general, and we're gonna unpack what

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<v Speaker 1>this means, what it is, how do identify it, and

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<v Speaker 1>also what you do if you find yourself in a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with some who is narcissistic and what you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you deal if like you have a family

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<v Speaker 1>member or maybe a parent who's narcissistic. So we are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be talking about this today, but obviously before

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<v Speaker 1>we get into it, we know that this can be

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<v Speaker 1>a really triggering subject matter and a really triggering experience

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<v Speaker 1>for anybody who's actually survived a narcissistic relationship. We just

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<v Speaker 1>want to put that out there before we get started. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you haven't been through a narcissistic relationship

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<v Speaker 1>at all, this is still going to be a great

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<v Speaker 1>episode that will help you identify any red flag so

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<v Speaker 1>that you know what to look for if you ever

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<v Speaker 1>find yourself dealing with someone either in the workplace who's

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<v Speaker 1>a narcissist. And I just think there's little bits that

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<v Speaker 1>we can all take from this episode. I'm really excited

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<v Speaker 1>about this and the reason why I'm excited about this episode,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a weird word to use, I know that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm excited about this episode because some of you

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<v Speaker 1>might know this if you've been following the podcast from

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<v Speaker 1>the very very beginning, But basically, the reason why Life

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<v Speaker 1>Uncut started was because Britta and I sat down for

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<v Speaker 1>breakfast this one day and we barely barely knew each other,

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<v Speaker 1>and we got chatting about why we did the show,

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<v Speaker 1>like how our ex relationships had kind of transpired. The

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<v Speaker 1>two of us got talking about these really toxic relationships

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<v Speaker 1>that we had both had. Britt has spoken very openly

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<v Speaker 1>about hers on episode three, which is the sociopath episode,

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<v Speaker 1>about how she dated someone for several years who had

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<v Speaker 1>a completely double life, and I spoke really openly with

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<v Speaker 1>Britt about my relationship with someone who had very severe

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<v Speaker 1>narcissistic tendencies. That was where life Uncut came from, because

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<v Speaker 1>we sat down and we started having these conversations, and

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<v Speaker 1>we knew that there would be other people out there

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<v Speaker 1>who may have been in the exact same situation as us,

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<v Speaker 1>have experienced us the same things, and would get something

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<v Speaker 1>out of having these conversations on a more public platform.

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<v Speaker 1>I do feel like it is really common for women

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<v Speaker 1>to get together, and it seems to be the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that bonds women. It seems to be the things that

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<v Speaker 1>they trauma, that yeah, that they relate to. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you guys, think about now, to yourself, anyone, any

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend you've ever sat down with, you will often talk

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<v Speaker 1>about past relationships good and bad, but often you're bonding

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<v Speaker 1>over you are I don't want to use the word trauma,

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<v Speaker 1>but bad experiences, crazy things that have happened, funny things

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<v Speaker 1>that have happened. You always bond over past experiences. We

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<v Speaker 1>bonded over The Bachelor as a past experience, but that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't what actually galvanized up. Yeah, that wasn't what cemented

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<v Speaker 1>this relationship. It was like, what the fuck we've both

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<v Speaker 1>been with these crazy people, Like the same thing happened

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<v Speaker 1>to me, and this is how I felt this is

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<v Speaker 1>And then we just got drawn into this this idea

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<v Speaker 1>of like, there've got to be more people that have

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<v Speaker 1>experienced this, and we want to talk about it and

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<v Speaker 1>we want to help them. And so that's where the

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<v Speaker 1>whole Life Uncut stemmed from. Today, Like Laura said, we

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<v Speaker 1>have put the trigger warning out. It's not gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone. If you do think that this could affect you,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, tune now. We don't want we don't want

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<v Speaker 1>this to bring up any bad feelings or things from

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<v Speaker 1>the past that are going to affect you now. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's out little warning for you. But we do really

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<v Speaker 1>want to reiterate that we are not trained professionals, and

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<v Speaker 1>everything we're speaking about in this episode is just a

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<v Speaker 1>discussion between two people that have experienced it themselves. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're just two women that have been through this together.

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<v Speaker 1>We've had the experiences ourselves. We have spoken to therapists

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<v Speaker 1>about it, we've spoken to other people about it, We've

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<v Speaker 1>done our own research past and present, so at the

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<v Speaker 1>time that we're experiencing it and now particularly for this episode. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and we did put it out on the Facebook group

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<v Speaker 1>as well about you know, if you guys had any

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<v Speaker 1>questions about dealing with people who are narcissists or dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with a narcissist in your life, and there was some

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<v Speaker 1>amazing questions that were put forward. I actually was so

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<v Speaker 1>blown away by how many people have been affected by this.

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<v Speaker 1>There are some questions that we're going to answer to

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<v Speaker 1>the best of our ability, the unqualified advice that you

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<v Speaker 1>all come here for. And there are also some questions

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<v Speaker 1>which I've kind of banked because we're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>a clinical psychologist on the podcast to really unpack different

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<v Speaker 1>types of personality disorders. But what we wanted to start

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<v Speaker 1>with with today and talking about narcissism, calling people a narcissist,

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<v Speaker 1>this seems to be like a very on trend and

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<v Speaker 1>fad driven thing at the moment where you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>go through a bad relationship, there is some toxicity there,

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<v Speaker 1>and the fallback word for labeling someone is to call

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<v Speaker 1>them a narcissist or to say that they have narcissistic

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<v Speaker 1>personality disorder. But the reality is only one percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the population These stats come from the Mayo Clinic online.

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<v Speaker 1>One percent of population potentially has narcissistic personality disorder. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an incredibly difficult mental illness to be able to actually

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<v Speaker 1>diagnose because the problem is is that many people who

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<v Speaker 1>suffer from narcissistic personality disorder will never seek treatment and

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<v Speaker 1>they are in absolute denial that they suffer from it.

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<v Speaker 1>So narcissistic personality disorder is the most extreme version of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is a mental illness. Now, there are also

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<v Speaker 1>people who are just your general, everyday narcissists. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>love black boys, buck girls, and fuck people out there,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's also just your general narcissists or people have

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<v Speaker 1>who have very very high and strong narcissistic tendencies. It

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<v Speaker 1>makes them a narcissist, but it doesn't mean that they

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<v Speaker 1>have narcissistic personality disorder. And I think it's really really

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<v Speaker 1>important for us to distinguish that they are two very

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<v Speaker 1>different things. And unless someone has been actually diagnosed with NPD.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you can't diagnose a friend. You can't diagnose a boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can't diagnose a family member. All you can

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<v Speaker 1>do is look at the facts and look at the information,

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<v Speaker 1>and then make the best decisions for yourself. If you

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<v Speaker 1>think somebody is displaying narcissistic narcissistic traits, then it gives

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<v Speaker 1>you the tools to be able to protect yourself as

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<v Speaker 1>best you can. Before we get into it, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>going to give you a proper definition from the Mayor clinic.

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<v Speaker 1>Narcissistic personality disorder is one of several types of personality disorders.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a mental condition in which people have an inflated

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<v Speaker 1>sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive

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<v Speaker 1>attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy

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<v Speaker 1>for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies

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<v Speaker 1>a fragile self esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's from the main of Clinting. That's actually an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting sentence there where it says they actually have this

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<v Speaker 1>fragile self esteem and they're quite they can be quite vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think it's a common misconception that narcissists are

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<v Speaker 1>always these super super high functioning, arrogant, overly confident, charismatic assholes.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the term that a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 1>is sort of what a lot of people imagine a

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<v Speaker 1>narcissist to be. And I don't think there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people realize that there can be these underlying confidence issues. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that also kind of brings us into the next part

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<v Speaker 1>is the fact that there are many different types. There

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<v Speaker 1>isn't just one sort of label that brands every single

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<v Speaker 1>narcissist the same. They're a covert narcissists, which are also

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<v Speaker 1>coined as being vulnerable narcissists, and then there are another

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<v Speaker 1>thing called grandiose narcissus. Now, the thing that details and

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<v Speaker 1>signifies NP is when somebody characterizes and displays both of

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<v Speaker 1>those personalities at the same time. So very few people

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<v Speaker 1>are grandiose and also vulnerable narcissistic personality types at the

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<v Speaker 1>very same time. So, just to kind of break those

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<v Speaker 1>down a little bit, somebody who has a covert narcissistic

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<v Speaker 1>tendency is somebody who is innately very very insecure, which

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<v Speaker 1>is definitely not the most common one. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>something that almost goes a little bit unspoken about. When

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<v Speaker 1>people talk about narcissism, people genuinely talk about this person

0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:36.760
<v Speaker 1>who has a really big ego and uses other people

0:22:36.800 --> 0:22:39.920
<v Speaker 1>to feed that ego. So somebody who has covert or

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<v Speaker 1>vulnerable narcissism. They are extremely sensitive to any type of criticism,

0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:48.200
<v Speaker 1>to the point where it's almost as though anybody else's

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<v Speaker 1>feelings about things are invalid and only their feelings are

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<v Speaker 1>what's most important. And it's kind of the mentality of like, well,

0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing such a good job and nobody recognizes me,

0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:02.760
<v Speaker 1>which is very different to a grandiose personality type, which

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<v Speaker 1>is I'm doing a good job and everyone knows I'm

0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:07.520
<v Speaker 1>doing a good job. They're the kind of two different

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:09.920
<v Speaker 1>types of narcissism that we're going to be talking about. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing with COVID narcissism is that they are really

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<v Speaker 1>highly sensitive, and they're highly sensitive to emotions. It's just

0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:18.119
<v Speaker 1>that they're only sensitive to their own emotions, and I

0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:21.760
<v Speaker 1>think that's the distinguishing feature. They're sensitive to emotions, not yours.

0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:24.159
<v Speaker 1>They couldn't give a fuck about yours. It's literally, like,

0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:26.600
<v Speaker 1>to put it simply, it's only things that are going

0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:29.440
<v Speaker 1>to affect them that make them emotional. They don't have

0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:33.160
<v Speaker 1>that connection when they see that you're upset. They see

0:23:33.160 --> 0:23:36.560
<v Speaker 1>that you're upset, but they don't care that you're upset. Yeah,

0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 1>and that's like the common theme throughout it, like dealing

0:23:39.160 --> 0:23:42.800
<v Speaker 1>with somebody who's extremely narcissistic. There's this lack of empathy

0:23:42.880 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 1>and this lack of really trying to understand and respect

0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:49.640
<v Speaker 1>somebody else's feelings because they will always prioritize their own

0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 1>ego and their own feelings over the top of anything else.

0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:56.880
<v Speaker 1>And they're really driven by this idea of being superior,

0:23:57.359 --> 0:24:01.400
<v Speaker 1>of being important, So they're usually attracted to quite high

0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:03.959
<v Speaker 1>powered or jobs that sort of give them a lot

0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:06.119
<v Speaker 1>of affirmation. And when I was doing some research, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of found this pretty funny. But obviously social media

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:12.800
<v Speaker 1>influencers are up there. Yeah, I mean that's yeah, that's

0:24:12.840 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 1>why we're talking about it, guys, we identify I believe

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 1>that for sure. Yeah. So, I mean social media influencers

0:24:17.359 --> 0:24:20.000
<v Speaker 1>they get a lot of their gratification and their validation

0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:22.719
<v Speaker 1>from people who they don't know, and that kind of

0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:26.359
<v Speaker 1>feeds into their narcissistic supply. That's not to say that

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 1>all are by any means, but it definitely would attract

0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:32.399
<v Speaker 1>people who have those tendencies as well, surgeons and people

0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 1>who work in like high powered medical industries, also politicians

0:24:37.119 --> 0:24:39.520
<v Speaker 1>and business tycoons. So these are like the top listed

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<v Speaker 1>of professions that really attract narcissistic personality types. I think

0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:47.080
<v Speaker 1>this is a really important time just to just to

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<v Speaker 1>make note that there can be healthy narcissism every single person,

0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:54.679
<v Speaker 1>like you just said, for example, social media influencers are

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<v Speaker 1>on the list. For sure, there's a bunch that are narcissistic.

0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 1>But I think it's really interesting. When I was doing

0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:03.920
<v Speaker 1>my research, I found that they literally say everybody in

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:08.399
<v Speaker 1>the world has some characteristics that are narcissistic, like we

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:12.720
<v Speaker 1>are humans, and it's unavoidable. But according to what they

0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:16.240
<v Speaker 1>call the DSM five, which is the Diagnostic and Statistic Manual,

0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 1>which is the go to manual, it's like the Bible.

0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:21.080
<v Speaker 1>For this sort of stuff. To be clinically diagnosed with

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:25.399
<v Speaker 1>NPD narcissistic personality disorder, a person has to exhibit at

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:28.359
<v Speaker 1>least fifty five percent of the most common signs of narcissism. So,

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 1>long story short, there's a list. There's nine things on

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 1>the list nine traits, you have to have fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>percent of them to be diagnosed as a narcissist. But

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<v Speaker 1>I can guarantee you if we read through them, which

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:43.920
<v Speaker 1>we will, there'll be one at least that everyone's gonna

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:46.040
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh yeah, if I'm being honest, like, I'm

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:48.760
<v Speaker 1>guilty of that absolutely. And I think that that's a

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<v Speaker 1>really important thing to kind of spend some time on,

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 1>is this fact that like, narcissism is not you're a narcissist,

0:25:55.359 --> 0:25:58.000
<v Speaker 1>You're not a narcissist. It's a spectrum and at the

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>very far end of that spectrum is end and at

0:26:01.119 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 1>the very end of that spectrum is at mpath and

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:06.880
<v Speaker 1>we all sit somewhere with on that spectrum of what

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<v Speaker 1>a narcissist is. And I think that, you know, we

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>can be very guilty, and people can be very guilty

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<v Speaker 1>of pointing the finger and blame shifting and relationships, and

0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 1>it can be very easy to call someone a blanket narcissist,

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:20.320
<v Speaker 1>but maybe they've just behaved in a bit of a

0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:23.640
<v Speaker 1>selfish way. Really, But we'll quickly run through what those

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<v Speaker 1>nine those kind of nine red flags are to look

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<v Speaker 1>out for, and that the nine things that are what

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:32.879
<v Speaker 1>identifies someone as being narcissistic. I want to read them

0:26:32.920 --> 0:26:34.960
<v Speaker 1>to you, and I want you to tell me if

0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.440
<v Speaker 1>you think you take any of them. You don't even

0:26:37.480 --> 0:26:39.119
<v Speaker 1>have to tell me which ones, but just make a

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:41.360
<v Speaker 1>note in your head, Okay, And you, guys, as I'm

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:43.640
<v Speaker 1>reading them, just make a note yourself if there's any

0:26:43.720 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 1>that you think, oh, I'm a bit like that. You

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 1>don't even have to ever share this. Okay. So these

0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>are not all the signs, but these are the most

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:54.120
<v Speaker 1>common signs. A grandiose sense of self importance and exaggerates

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 1>achievements and talents. Number two dreams of unlimited power. Six

0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 1>sess brilliance, beauty, or ideal love. Three requires excessive admiration.

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 1>Four believes he or she is special and unique and

0:27:11.920 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 1>can only be understood by or should associate with other

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:21.360
<v Speaker 1>people of high status. Five lacks empathy for the feelings

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 1>and needs of others. Six unreasonably expects special, favorable treatment

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:31.159
<v Speaker 1>or compliance with his or her wishes. Seven exploits and

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:35.959
<v Speaker 1>takes advantage of others to achieve personal ends. Eight envies

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 1>others or believes they are envious of him or her,

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 1>and nine has an attitude of arrogance, or at least

0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:47.760
<v Speaker 1>acts that way. I'm gonna be straight up honest, I'm

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna own this one. This one really resonated with me.

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:56.679
<v Speaker 1>Number two dreams of unlimited power, success, brilliance, beauty, or

0:27:56.720 --> 0:28:00.440
<v Speaker 1>ideal love. Like for sure, I want success, beauty, brilliant,

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 1>ideal love like I always. That's probably my problem is

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 1>that I look for an ideal love. Maybe, so one

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent my hand is up for number two. Yeah,

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:09.640
<v Speaker 1>and I guess that there's definitely other things in there

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:11.280
<v Speaker 1>as well, which you're like, well, I'm not like that

0:28:11.400 --> 0:28:13.520
<v Speaker 1>all the time, but I've definitely done it from time

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:15.880
<v Speaker 1>to time. Does that make me an asshole? Probably? There's

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:19.240
<v Speaker 1>probably somebody out there who I have treated badly in

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:21.679
<v Speaker 1>a past relationship who would look at this list and

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>say that's Laura. Is that me all the time? Absolutely not.

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:26.679
<v Speaker 1>But when I read that number two as well, I'm like,

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:29.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't want power, Like power to me is such

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>a weird word. I don't want to have power over people.

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:33.640
<v Speaker 1>The thought of that makes me feel really uncomfortable. Yeah,

0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:35.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't like the power, just the success, brilliance, beauty,

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:40.120
<v Speaker 1>and ideal love. Yeah, I do. I fantasize about ideal love. Yeah, sure,

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll have about chanting Danam. I'm hoping to have to.

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping to be in a predicament where I have

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:47.760
<v Speaker 1>to choose between Liam Hemsworth and zac Efron. That is

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 1>what I'm hoping happens in Byron Bay next week. Fantasies.

0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 1>There we go. We're very much gotten off topic here,

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, so I think like next we can kind

0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>of move into a little bit about being in a

0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 1>relationship with someone narcissistic and how that kind of plays out.

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 1>And I have spoken a lot on this podcast before

0:29:06.240 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 1>about my past relationships. We've never done a dedicated episode

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 1>to the train wreck. That was one of them. I

0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:17.080
<v Speaker 1>guess like when I uncovered what a narcissist was, I'd

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 1>never really I mean, of course i'd heard the word,

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:22.520
<v Speaker 1>but i'd never ever actually unpacked what it's like to

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 1>be in a narcissistic relationship. And after two years, I

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>ended up in therapy after having a terrible breakup. I'd

0:29:30.720 --> 0:29:34.280
<v Speaker 1>been cheated on again, and there was this constant lying

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>and we were on and off and it was very,

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 1>very volatile, and I ended up sitting down with a counselor,

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 1>because I actually sat down with a counselor and really

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 1>expected the counselor to be, like, help me. I wanted

0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>her to help me be better so that he would

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:52.800
<v Speaker 1>accept me more and I wouldn't keep being the problem

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:58.040
<v Speaker 1>in the relationship. Like this was how much my self

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 1>esteem over the two years has been do it all

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:03.479
<v Speaker 1>down into nothing. I went in there thinking, you'd been

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:06.560
<v Speaker 1>convinced that every problem in the relationship was you, and

0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 1>the only way to fix it was that you had

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:10.320
<v Speaker 1>to change. I had gotten to the point in our

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>relationship where I mean I for me, an open relationship

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 1>is not something that I want at all. But I

0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 1>had gotten to the point in our relationship where I

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>was contemplating being in an open relationship so that he

0:30:22.320 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>could be in an open relationship. And I was prepared

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>to lower my standards so much just so that way

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:32.760
<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't be breaking my standards anymore. Like my boundary is, Yeah,

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>my boundaries no longer existed. And I have never ever

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 1>been so confused, so lost in myself. I didn't know

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:45.160
<v Speaker 1>who I was anymore, I didn't know what I stood for,

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:48.680
<v Speaker 1>and I was so embarrassed to my friends to my

0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:53.239
<v Speaker 1>family because I felt like, how could I possibly have

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>gotten to this point? At that time, I thought, maybe

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 1>if I was more beautiful, he won't do this. Maybe

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 1>if I'm funnier, he won't do this. Maybe if I

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 1>can change something about myself, it'll make him want to

0:31:03.600 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>be with me more, and then the relationship will work,

0:31:06.720 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Like I can fix this. And that's when the therapist

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 1>sort of said to me, like, I don't know if

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:16.160
<v Speaker 1>you've ever researched narcissistic behavior. She's like, obviously, I can't

0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>say that that's what this person is because you know,

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:20.239
<v Speaker 1>when you go to a therapist, they're only hearing one

0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>side of the story, so it could be biased. But

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:24.920
<v Speaker 1>she gave me the tools to really unpack what I

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 1>was going through, and I started reading a lot about it,

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>and I literally saw in the information that was in

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>front of me my relationship and how it had unfolded.

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 1>And so the very start of our relationship, and this

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>is a very key telltale sign of meeting someone who

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>is narcissistic, is this concept of love bombing that happens

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of the relationship. So when when I

0:31:46.000 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 1>first got into this relationship, I have never felt more loved,

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 1>more special, more like I had a soulmate connection than

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I did in the first couple of months of being

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 1>with this person. And it was because they idolized me.

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 1>They would bring me gifts, they would show up at

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 1>my work, they would call me, text me incessantly, and

0:32:08.520 --> 0:32:14.680
<v Speaker 1>it was this completely all consuming, all infatuating, ridiculously intense

0:32:15.280 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 1>relationship that I'd never experienced before. And I was like,

0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>this is what love is. And then all of a sudden,

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 1>shit changed, really really quick, really quick. I had exactly

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>the same thing when I was just reading out those

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 1>nine characteristics, all the most common characteristics of a narcissist,

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 1>my ex, the sociopath, the psycho, and he actually is.

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm not just, I don't throw that term around. He

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 1>ticks every single one, every single one of those nine.

0:32:41.880 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not just I'm not being a bitter ex,

0:32:45.360 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 1>like I'm so happy to talk about it and be

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 1>super honest about it, but he ticks every single one.

0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 1>And the way I spoke about it in episode three,

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>so I dated sociopath, but I'm just gonna jump in

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 1>again now and discuss it. The way that he hooked

0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 1>me was exactly the same bombarded with love. I have

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 1>never I was the most special human in the universe.

0:33:05.640 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 1>That's how I felt. I was like, whoa, this is love,

0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.160
<v Speaker 1>This is what I'm supposed to feel. This is how

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:14.840
<v Speaker 1>someone's supposed to treat me. The attention that I got,

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 1>and I'm talking it wouldn't have been unusual to get

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 1>one hundred messages a day, multiple medias that was via email,

0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:23.800
<v Speaker 1>that were phone calls, that was text messages. Actually there

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>were two emails, but that's because he made me make

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>another email. But that's a long story. But like all day,

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:31.520
<v Speaker 1>and he would turn up at work as well, all

0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>the things you said, take me away. This is and

0:33:35.040 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>this is guys, this we're gonna get into red flags.

0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 1>This is a big one. Anyone that told you they

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:40.959
<v Speaker 1>love you in the first two or three red flag.

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying they're a narcissist, but there's something to

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>be said for someone that says within two weeks they

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:48.400
<v Speaker 1>love you because you just don't know human enough. Sure

0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 1>you can have this infatuation and the lust, absolutely, but

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:52.960
<v Speaker 1>someone that's like you are the love of my life.

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying that there aren't people out there

0:33:54.960 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 1>that are like For sure, people that have met and

0:33:56.880 --> 0:33:58.520
<v Speaker 1>within two weeks said they love each other and they

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:00.400
<v Speaker 1>ended up together totally. But I think the thing to

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:02.840
<v Speaker 1>keep in mind is if you are someone who has

0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 1>experienced that and you are still with that person in life,

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:08.560
<v Speaker 1>is great. You are the exception that is not normal

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 1>for most couples in relationships. So if you do find

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 1>yourself in that situation, like Bridges said, where it's all

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:17.120
<v Speaker 1>consuming and this person's telling you they love you straight

0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 1>away and it seems too good to be true, sometimes

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:21.839
<v Speaker 1>it's because it is too good to be true, and

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:24.280
<v Speaker 1>this can be a really big warning sign that something

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 1>quite toxic is about to shift in the behavior. So

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:31.600
<v Speaker 1>this phase that we're talking about is called idealization, and

0:34:31.640 --> 0:34:36.680
<v Speaker 1>this is a characteristic of narcissistic relationships. Basically, it's part

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 1>of it's part of the entrapment ites. It's this idolizing

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:44.359
<v Speaker 1>of you, and then you become so in love with

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 1>the person who is narcissistic that you feed their ego,

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.320
<v Speaker 1>you give them everything they want. You are completely succumbed

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 1>to the relationship. Then what happens is maybe they'll pick

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:57.719
<v Speaker 1>a fight with you. For me, it wasn't for me,

0:34:57.760 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't that he picked a fight for me. It

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 1>was that we were out at a nightclub and he

0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 1>started texting another girl and was obviously flirting with girls

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 1>right in front of me, And it was that the

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:09.400
<v Speaker 1>switch in his behavior was so severe that it was

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 1>almost like Jekyl and Hyde. I didn't understand who I

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 1>was out with that night. I was like, what is

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:15.840
<v Speaker 1>going on? Like what are you doing? Are you? Have

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 1>you taken drugs? Are you drunk? Like what is this person?

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 1>And there was just this complete two phase nature. What

0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:28.839
<v Speaker 1>happens is this this is called the devalue phase. So

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:32.319
<v Speaker 1>the devalue phase of the relationship, it really makes you

0:35:32.400 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>super confused you and you start to question your reality

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>and you question if even what's happening around you is real,

0:35:39.000 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 1>and then that creates anxiety in you. And that anxiety

0:35:42.719 --> 0:35:45.600
<v Speaker 1>and that fear of losing the person is actually what

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:49.439
<v Speaker 1>strengthens the bond and what starts to make this narcissistic

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:53.880
<v Speaker 1>relationship so incredibly toxic and lack a drug because every

0:35:53.920 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 1>time you go through this idealization phase and then a

0:35:57.040 --> 0:36:01.720
<v Speaker 1>devalue phase, it strengthens those bonds and you become closer

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 1>and closer to the narcissist, and it becomes harder and

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:08.000
<v Speaker 1>harder for you to actually leave. And so for people

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 1>who this goes on for years. For It's why actually

0:36:11.040 --> 0:36:13.400
<v Speaker 1>leaving a relationship with a narcissist it's one of the

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:18.279
<v Speaker 1>hardest things to do. Maybe get to get side, it's

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:21.040
<v Speaker 1>one of the hardest things to do, and it's something

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 1>that family and friends often can't relate to unless they've

0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:27.960
<v Speaker 1>actually experienced it themselves, because your friends and family can

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 1>often see what's happening. But part of what a narcissistic

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:35.279
<v Speaker 1>person will do of someone who's truly truly narcissistic is

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:37.839
<v Speaker 1>that they isolate you from your friends and family, and

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:41.080
<v Speaker 1>they make it so that you don't have your support network,

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:43.520
<v Speaker 1>where in that moment, they're the people that you need

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the most. Personally, I found I lost one of my

0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:49.840
<v Speaker 1>best friends during this relationship. I was her maid of

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:52.759
<v Speaker 1>honor and I was uninvited to her wedding because of

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:56.240
<v Speaker 1>his really bad behavior at her engagement party. But because

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:59.720
<v Speaker 1>I was so in love with him and so scared

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.279
<v Speaker 1>of lo in the relationship, I chose to defend him

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and not defend the friendship. Can I ask what he did?

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 1>We don't talk about it now I can talk about it.

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 1>He was out of curiosity to be uninvited to a wedding.

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I feel like pretty big thing. She was my best

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 1>friend from school. We were at the engagement party, and

0:37:15.200 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 1>he just started being really, really overtly sexual towards one

0:37:19.640 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 1>of the other bridesmaids, commenting on her boobs made her

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:26.839
<v Speaker 1>feel very, very uncomfortable, and he was obviously flirting with her,

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:28.880
<v Speaker 1>but was really pushing the boundaries in a way that

0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean. I wasn't there when this was happening. I

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.720
<v Speaker 1>was in the other room, and she then went obviously

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 1>told my friend, and so my girlfriend came and said

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 1>to me, like this has happened, and I chose not

0:37:38.840 --> 0:37:40.799
<v Speaker 1>to believe it. And when I confronted him about it,

0:37:40.840 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>he said that my friend was a liar, it never happened.

0:37:43.520 --> 0:37:45.879
<v Speaker 1>He would never do that. He loved me, and so

0:37:46.239 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I felt like I had found this

0:37:48.440 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 1>incredibly special relationship and people were trying to ruin it

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:53.360
<v Speaker 1>for me because I had to choose between what was

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>being said and what was actually happening. Well, that's the

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 1>whole point. That's what they want you to believe, isn't it.

0:37:58.880 --> 0:38:01.279
<v Speaker 1>That's where that friend and she ended up dissolving. It

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:04.279
<v Speaker 1>became to a point where my girlfriend had said, I

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:06.319
<v Speaker 1>don't want him at her wedding, and I was like, well,

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 1>here's my boyfriend. If you don't want him at the wedding,

0:38:08.719 --> 0:38:10.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to come to the wedding. And then

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 1>that was it. I didn't end up going to the wedding, which,

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 1>in retrospect, I look at that now and I think

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:18.239
<v Speaker 1>it's so fucking sad. You're so in love and you

0:38:18.280 --> 0:38:19.960
<v Speaker 1>do get to a point where you think that the

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>world's against you, and like this person would never lie

0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:25.319
<v Speaker 1>to you, because you do have a different connection with

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 1>your partner than you do with your friends, and you

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:29.239
<v Speaker 1>will love your friends and trust your friends and they're

0:38:29.280 --> 0:38:32.840
<v Speaker 1>everything to you, but you can't deny that there's not

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:36.280
<v Speaker 1>a different kind of bond with a lover husband partner.

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:40.400
<v Speaker 1>So you weren't making a decision based on the fact

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>that you were trying to end a friendship. You honestly

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 1>believed that they were trying to end your relationship. So

0:38:44.719 --> 0:38:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that's different totally. And I think the thing

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:48.839
<v Speaker 1>that we need to keep in perspective is that when

0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 1>you're in a relationship with someone who is very, very narcissistic.

0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:55.360
<v Speaker 1>They are a drug. The person who is the supply

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 1>ends up almost needing them as much as the narcissist

0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:01.279
<v Speaker 1>needs them in return. So it's it's toxic from both

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 1>sides of the relationship. For sure. I want to get

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:06.000
<v Speaker 1>into another I mean this all ties in together. But

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:07.320
<v Speaker 1>the next sort of thing I want to talk about

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:10.280
<v Speaker 1>is gas lighting. We have done a whole episode on it, guys,

0:39:10.320 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 1>a few episodes back. You can go and have a

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>listen to that one, but we can't not mention it

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>here because it's such a huge part of a narcissistic relationship.

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 1>The whole idea is they're manipulating you. They want to

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 1>make you believe that the whole world is wrong. Everything

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:29.680
<v Speaker 1>they say is gospel. They start to make you question yourself,

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:32.560
<v Speaker 1>your own sense of reality, what you know to be true,

0:39:32.680 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 1>every time you go to question them on something, because

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>you're going to there's no way that you've met a

0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:40.280
<v Speaker 1>relationship like this, like even like you just said, Laura,

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 1>like the time comes where you have to go to

0:39:42.520 --> 0:39:44.360
<v Speaker 1>him and say, did this just happen? Did you just

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 1>do this? Did you just say this? Like did you

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 1>actually go there and they're going to come back at

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 1>you and they're going to start gas lighting because they

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:52.400
<v Speaker 1>need to get you back on their side. My ex

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 1>did it to me all the time. All the time.

0:39:55.760 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I would go to him knowing he had been like

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:01.160
<v Speaker 1>deep down, knowing he'd just been with someone else, knowing

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:03.440
<v Speaker 1>he had cheated, knowing that things were not adding up,

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:07.759
<v Speaker 1>and I would leave the conversation thinking how apologizing to

0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 1>him and thinking how could I have gotten that so wrong?

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm going crazy. He would make me think I

0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 1>was going crazy, And that is something you really really

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:17.279
<v Speaker 1>need to be aware of. If you start questioning your

0:40:17.320 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 1>own reality, it's a really big red flag that they're

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to put you in this little box and cut

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you off from the rest of the world. It's such

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>a weird thing because this sort of like relationship terminology

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 1>is only stuff that you become super aware of, I

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:34.160
<v Speaker 1>think once you've been in this type of relationship, Like

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 1>prior to experiencing this myself, I'd never heard of the

0:40:37.400 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 1>word love bombing. I'd never heard of the word gas lighting.

0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:44.279
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that these things actually existed until experiencing

0:40:44.320 --> 0:40:47.960
<v Speaker 1>them and being amidst the absolute confusion that it throws

0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:49.920
<v Speaker 1>you into. And then when you come out on the

0:40:49.960 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 1>other side and you actually read the definitions for some

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:55.400
<v Speaker 1>of these things and you go, holy fucking shit, that

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 1>was my whole relationship. And I think a lot of

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:03.160
<v Speaker 1>people who experience these relationstionships have this retrospective outlook on

0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:05.840
<v Speaker 1>it that they go, oh, my god, that's what happened

0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:09.239
<v Speaker 1>to me, and acknowledging that and being able to identify

0:41:09.360 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 1>and label things. There's a lot of power in that

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:15.359
<v Speaker 1>as well. Another thing to notice is when you're in

0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:17.759
<v Speaker 1>this conversation and they're gas lighting you, right, so when

0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 1>you go to them and you say, did this happen?

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:22.759
<v Speaker 1>Not only is it common for them to say to

0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:26.440
<v Speaker 1>you you're going crazy, This would never have happened. You know,

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:28.719
<v Speaker 1>people are lying to you, They're always going to do that.

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:31.120
<v Speaker 1>But then what they do is throwing a compliment to

0:41:31.280 --> 0:41:33.840
<v Speaker 1>They're throwing some praise to make you feel good, to

0:41:33.920 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 1>make you feel like, oh, okay, not only am I

0:41:36.160 --> 0:41:38.719
<v Speaker 1>going crazy, but this guy is a good person. An example,

0:41:39.160 --> 0:41:41.800
<v Speaker 1>you're crazy, everyone's lying to you. How can you possibly

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 1>believe them? You know how amazing I think you are?

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:46.560
<v Speaker 1>And you know I love you, so that's it. So

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:48.880
<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden you've gone, oh, I'm crazy, this

0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:50.919
<v Speaker 1>guy loves me so much. And that's how they keep

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 1>you hooked. There is this complete lack of empathy, and

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that people who are very narcissistic are actually

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 1>able to fake it really really well. So like you

0:41:59.120 --> 0:42:01.560
<v Speaker 1>might have so good man who you might think that

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 1>like they might be crying, they might be groveling, they

0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:06.759
<v Speaker 1>might be begging for you to stay and apologizing and

0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:09.840
<v Speaker 1>doing all the things that would that would signal that

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:12.839
<v Speaker 1>actually they're really really sorry. And then as soon as

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:15.400
<v Speaker 1>you're back in and you've been hooked back into the relationship,

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:18.239
<v Speaker 1>the exact same behavior starts happening again, and there was

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:21.959
<v Speaker 1>really no real remorse there. It was almost very performative

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:25.400
<v Speaker 1>because they know exactly what to do to get what

0:42:25.440 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 1>they need out of you in order to keep you there,

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:31.040
<v Speaker 1>because the relationship itself and the purpose that you serve

0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:34.480
<v Speaker 1>in that relationship is that you feed their ego. And

0:42:34.520 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 1>often people who are narcissistic are actually really attracted to

0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:41.000
<v Speaker 1>empaths and people who have a lot of feelings and

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 1>care a lot because they are often more flexible with

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:48.319
<v Speaker 1>their boundaries than people who are very strong willed and

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:52.719
<v Speaker 1>are not as sensitive or driven by their feelings. So

0:42:53.560 --> 0:42:55.880
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of the difficult thing is that you know,

0:42:55.960 --> 0:42:58.759
<v Speaker 1>somebody who is narcissistic is attracted to an EmPATH, and

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:01.680
<v Speaker 1>an EmPATH is attracted to an narcissist. And often you'll

0:43:01.680 --> 0:43:03.960
<v Speaker 1>find that if you keep getting into the same types

0:43:04.000 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 1>of relationships that are narcissistic relationships. Is because maybe you

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 1>do fall into that type of category, which once you're

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 1>aware of it, it allows you to be able to

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:14.760
<v Speaker 1>work on yourself to be able to identify those things

0:43:14.800 --> 0:43:16.919
<v Speaker 1>as well. The next thing that we want to jump

0:43:16.960 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 1>into is it's one thing to start to see the

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:23.080
<v Speaker 1>red flags and have this realization that maybe you're dating

0:43:23.080 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 1>a narcissist, this relationship with this person is not healthy.

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:30.000
<v Speaker 1>How do you extract yourself from that? It is one

0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:32.480
<v Speaker 1>thing to leave a normal relationship and have a breakup

0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 1>and move on, and it is a whole nother ballgame

0:43:35.120 --> 0:43:38.560
<v Speaker 1>to try and extract yourself from a relationship or a

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:42.319
<v Speaker 1>situation with a narcissist or someone with narcissistic tendencies. It's

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:46.920
<v Speaker 1>a whole another ballgame. People don't understand, they don't understand

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:50.120
<v Speaker 1>the depth of the addiction that you kind of have

0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:52.880
<v Speaker 1>for somebody when you're in that type of relationship, and

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:56.440
<v Speaker 1>also the fact that they are so manipulative in trying

0:43:56.440 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 1>to get you to stay, in my case, that you

0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:01.560
<v Speaker 1>ended up having to move and I ended up selling

0:44:01.560 --> 0:44:04.400
<v Speaker 1>my car because I just actually felt like I was

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:07.000
<v Speaker 1>never ever going to be free of the relationship, because

0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 1>every single time I would get a little bit further away,

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:13.160
<v Speaker 1>something would happen and I get sucked back in, and

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:15.920
<v Speaker 1>it was very all consuming. I think the other thing

0:44:15.920 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 1>to remember as well is that there's a lot of

0:44:17.680 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 1>guilt attached when you have found yourself in these relationships

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:23.680
<v Speaker 1>and you are in this phase of going back and forth,

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:26.319
<v Speaker 1>back and forth and trying to break free. There's a

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of feeling of just unworthiness and sadness and guilt

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:34.520
<v Speaker 1>that goes with it, and like feeling like, how the

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:37.520
<v Speaker 1>fuck did this happen to me? I really just want

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 1>to say, like this can happen to anyone. That's the thing,

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 1>and that was one of the things that Britain I

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:43.520
<v Speaker 1>really wanted to bring to this episode, is that both

0:44:43.560 --> 0:44:46.840
<v Speaker 1>of us have experienced this to a very very toxic

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:50.320
<v Speaker 1>and very damaging level, and this literally can happen to anyone.

0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:52.400
<v Speaker 1>It's not a reflection of you. It's not a reflection

0:44:52.480 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 1>of you being weak. It's not a reflection of you

0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:58.440
<v Speaker 1>not knowing your boundaries. It's a reflection of dealing with

0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:01.680
<v Speaker 1>somebody who doesn't work like a normal person, or doesn't

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:04.719
<v Speaker 1>work like your average person. The reason it's so hard

0:45:04.719 --> 0:45:09.880
<v Speaker 1>to leave is because this is actually a term that

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 1>they use to describe these relationships. You are a narcissist supply.

0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 1>You're a narcissistic supply chain. You are feeding them. They

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:23.040
<v Speaker 1>need you to operate because they need you to be

0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:25.440
<v Speaker 1>under their control. They need you to make them feel good.

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:29.239
<v Speaker 1>They need to know that they have power. So every

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:32.840
<v Speaker 1>time you go to leave, they will find a way

0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 1>to bring you back because you are their supply. What

0:45:36.120 --> 0:45:38.239
<v Speaker 1>they suggest you do when you want to leave a

0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:40.960
<v Speaker 1>relationship like this is not to give a reason for

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 1>why you're leaving. If you know that this is super,

0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:49.720
<v Speaker 1>super super unhealthy, don't say I'm leaving because you control

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:52.400
<v Speaker 1>me too much. I'm leaving because you don't let me

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 1>do what I want on the weekends. If you give

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 1>them a reason, they're going to say, I love you

0:45:57.200 --> 0:45:58.719
<v Speaker 1>so much, I promise you can do it every one

0:45:58.719 --> 0:45:59.960
<v Speaker 1>on the weekend. I will never do that to you again.

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:02.120
<v Speaker 1>They're going to find a reason to bring you back,

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:05.239
<v Speaker 1>and specifically to what you've told them the problem is.

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 1>But what they suggest you say if you need to

0:46:07.560 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 1>extract yourself is say I'm leaving because I don't love

0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:14.319
<v Speaker 1>you and it's not going to work and I want

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:16.000
<v Speaker 1>out of the relationship. Don't give them a reason. It's

0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:18.600
<v Speaker 1>just that this isn't working anymore. Yeah, and it needs

0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:20.880
<v Speaker 1>to be like such a clear and concise thing. And

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:22.839
<v Speaker 1>don't get me wrong that that's not going to be enough.

0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 1>They're still going to try and bring you back in.

0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:27.399
<v Speaker 1>But exactly as Britz said, you can't get them something

0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 1>to negotiate with because as soon as you give them

0:46:30.239 --> 0:46:33.040
<v Speaker 1>something that they've done wrong, or you try and explain

0:46:33.160 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 1>to them what it is that's making you so upset

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 1>or making you need to leave, that gives them leverage

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:41.239
<v Speaker 1>to try and manipulate you and change your mind. And

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:43.160
<v Speaker 1>one of the questions that we kept getting on the

0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Facebook group, will they change that? Can you explain to

0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:49.360
<v Speaker 1>a narcissist why you feel the way you feel or

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:53.279
<v Speaker 1>how they're hurting you, you really can't because even if

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 1>you do explain it to them and they pretend like

0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:59.680
<v Speaker 1>they're accepting that information, or they they seem to be

0:46:59.680 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 1>accepted in that information, they're not going to put it

0:47:02.280 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 1>into action. Unless a narcissist actually identifies that they are

0:47:06.040 --> 0:47:09.200
<v Speaker 1>a narcissist and seeks therapy for it, they're never going

0:47:09.239 --> 0:47:11.759
<v Speaker 1>to change or come to a different conclusion. So you're

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 1>always going to get sucked back in. The only thing

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:16.920
<v Speaker 1>to do if you can do it, So if you

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:19.160
<v Speaker 1>don't have children, if it's not someone you're related to,

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:22.319
<v Speaker 1>if it's early days in a relationship, the only thing

0:47:22.400 --> 0:47:25.799
<v Speaker 1>you can do is walk away and fucking block and

0:47:25.840 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 1>delete and shut down your social media and do not

0:47:28.800 --> 0:47:30.800
<v Speaker 1>allow them to have any access to your life. And

0:47:30.840 --> 0:47:33.080
<v Speaker 1>as much as that just seems like the most severe

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:37.400
<v Speaker 1>and horrible way of ending things, and I guarantee that

0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:39.440
<v Speaker 1>there will be this period where you literally feel like

0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:42.800
<v Speaker 1>you're going through withdrawal symptoms from them, but that is

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:45.920
<v Speaker 1>the most effective way of being able to deal and

0:47:46.000 --> 0:47:50.440
<v Speaker 1>break off this narcissistic relationship. For every single day that passes,

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 1>one day at a time, you're slowly going to be

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:55.719
<v Speaker 1>able to get over the relationship. You're solely going to

0:47:55.719 --> 0:47:58.320
<v Speaker 1>break down those bonds, and it's like having an addiction

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:01.480
<v Speaker 1>to anything. Really take it one day at a time,

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:04.279
<v Speaker 1>and every single day that you go without speaking to them,

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 1>without contacting them, without looking at their social media, pat

0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:10.400
<v Speaker 1>yourself on the back, because like that is one day

0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:13.319
<v Speaker 1>closer to you being free of this absolute fucking hell.

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Something that they think is also really important to know,

0:48:16.239 --> 0:48:18.520
<v Speaker 1>because this is also such a hard part of like

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:22.959
<v Speaker 1>breaking free of someone who is narcissistic, is that once

0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:25.800
<v Speaker 1>they can't control you anymore, they may try and control

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:28.200
<v Speaker 1>the narrative around you. So they may try and influence

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:30.280
<v Speaker 1>the way that your friends, or your family, or people

0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:33.879
<v Speaker 1>in your workplace even think of who you are as

0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:36.720
<v Speaker 1>a person. So maybe they will make up stories, maybe

0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:39.319
<v Speaker 1>they will bend the truth to make it seem like

0:48:39.360 --> 0:48:41.719
<v Speaker 1>you're the one who was doing the wrong in the relationship.

0:48:41.960 --> 0:48:44.279
<v Speaker 1>The same thing happened to me with my ex. When

0:48:44.280 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 1>it all came out that he had his double life,

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:51.080
<v Speaker 1>he went and told everyone he knew, everyone that could

0:48:51.080 --> 0:48:53.640
<v Speaker 1>possibly cross paths with us, because we had a lot

0:48:53.680 --> 0:48:56.040
<v Speaker 1>of circles that cross paths. He you and I. He

0:48:56.160 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 1>thought everyone that I was like this crazy stalker and

0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:01.440
<v Speaker 1>this is how we played it off because people are like,

0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:03.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, like we used to see her car at

0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:06.040
<v Speaker 1>your house, like we know that something's going on, and

0:49:06.080 --> 0:49:08.759
<v Speaker 1>he would say things like, yeah, she used to just

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:11.160
<v Speaker 1>fucking turn up and stand out in front of my house,

0:49:11.239 --> 0:49:13.680
<v Speaker 1>like he made it out like everything. Every time someone

0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:16.960
<v Speaker 1>would say we saw you together, like calling him out

0:49:16.960 --> 0:49:19.440
<v Speaker 1>on it, he had this way turning around and saying

0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:22.480
<v Speaker 1>she's a nutjob, like she was crazy, and I was like, dude,

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:25.680
<v Speaker 1>we were getting married. I was like, this is insane

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:29.120
<v Speaker 1>that he was trying to poison every single person in

0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:31.520
<v Speaker 1>my life and turn everyone against me because he couldn't

0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:34.360
<v Speaker 1>control me anymore. So obviously we've just touched on like

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:36.680
<v Speaker 1>how to get out of a relationship if it's in

0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:39.000
<v Speaker 1>the early stages, but like we acknowledge that there are

0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:41.640
<v Speaker 1>relationships that you can't just walk away from. Maybe you

0:49:41.680 --> 0:49:45.360
<v Speaker 1>have children, maybe it's a relative. What I want to

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:48.759
<v Speaker 1>say to that is that the first step is acknowledging

0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:51.520
<v Speaker 1>what you're dealing with. So if you have already recognized,

0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:54.600
<v Speaker 1>and you already identified that the person that you're dealing

0:49:54.640 --> 0:49:58.319
<v Speaker 1>with is narcissistic, or has narcissistic personality disorder and it's

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:00.800
<v Speaker 1>been diagnosed, then you you know what you're in for.

0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:03.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think that that's the first step of setting

0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:06.200
<v Speaker 1>personal boundaries and being able to protect yourself. So if

0:50:06.200 --> 0:50:09.120
<v Speaker 1>it is someone that you can't actually move yourself completely

0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:11.719
<v Speaker 1>away from and create space, then what you need to

0:50:11.719 --> 0:50:14.040
<v Speaker 1>do is try and create as much mental wellness around

0:50:14.040 --> 0:50:18.839
<v Speaker 1>that person as possible. Set boundaries, set limitations, and if

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 1>you do find yourself in a situation where they are

0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:24.719
<v Speaker 1>gas lighting, you be really aware and cognizant that that

0:50:24.840 --> 0:50:28.240
<v Speaker 1>is what's happening. Don't get embroiled in the argument, don't

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:31.160
<v Speaker 1>get tied down in it. Just walk away and don't

0:50:31.239 --> 0:50:33.239
<v Speaker 1>give fire to it, because I think that the more

0:50:33.280 --> 0:50:37.120
<v Speaker 1>that you try and negotiate or have a conversation or

0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:39.600
<v Speaker 1>change their mind, the more you're gonna get sucked back

0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:42.120
<v Speaker 1>into that reality. I put a little list of things

0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 1>together because I knew the time would come where we

0:50:44.400 --> 0:50:46.680
<v Speaker 1>would have to do a list of how to move

0:50:46.719 --> 0:50:48.680
<v Speaker 1>on and extract yourself. I love it when you do

0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:52.319
<v Speaker 1>the research for it a list. Basically, the number one thing.

0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Education is key, Information is power. You might not know

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:58.200
<v Speaker 1>what you're dealing with I certainly didn't. I know Laura

0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:01.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't until you actually have someone laid out for you

0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and you're looking at it physically and you're like, oh

0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:08.440
<v Speaker 1>my god, that yes, yes, yes, yes. So educate yourself

0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:11.000
<v Speaker 1>to what it is. Read up about these unhealthy relationships.

0:51:11.080 --> 0:51:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Read up about the narcissistic tendencies, traits, the different types

0:51:14.960 --> 0:51:18.400
<v Speaker 1>of narcissism, because remember, they don't all fall into one category.

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Totally listen to podcasts, go online. There's so many forums

0:51:21.880 --> 0:51:24.280
<v Speaker 1>and communities. I know that something that really really helped

0:51:24.280 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 1>me was joining online communities of other people who had

0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:31.160
<v Speaker 1>dealt with narcissistic relationships, and it made me think I

0:51:31.160 --> 0:51:33.920
<v Speaker 1>am not alone and I'm not an idiot, which is

0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:36.600
<v Speaker 1>what I really really felt at the time, and it

0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:39.640
<v Speaker 1>was a real safe space to kind of rebuild from

0:51:39.640 --> 0:51:41.319
<v Speaker 1>there as well. So I do think that there are

0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:45.360
<v Speaker 1>so many resources online that can make you feel really

0:51:45.400 --> 0:51:49.360
<v Speaker 1>empowered and you come out of the other side going, Okay,

0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not the only one who's been through this. Yes, see,

0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:54.880
<v Speaker 1>now my problem is I'm the opposite to you. It

0:51:54.920 --> 0:51:57.040
<v Speaker 1>took me such a long time to deal with because

0:51:57.080 --> 0:51:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't I didn't seek help and I didn't go

0:51:59.640 --> 0:52:02.120
<v Speaker 1>on online communities and I didn't do the research, and

0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I knew I was in a fucked up relationship and

0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I knew what had happened to me, and like, there

0:52:06.760 --> 0:52:09.080
<v Speaker 1>is so much more that I'll never actually be able

0:52:09.080 --> 0:52:12.319
<v Speaker 1>to talk about to you, guys. I knew was so

0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:15.640
<v Speaker 1>far from being okay, but I dealt with it on

0:52:15.640 --> 0:52:19.200
<v Speaker 1>my own. I was like, I'm fine, everything's fine. I

0:52:19.239 --> 0:52:21.920
<v Speaker 1>don't need anyone. And that was the worst thing. Now,

0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:23.600
<v Speaker 1>in hindsight, that's the worst thing I could have done,

0:52:23.680 --> 0:52:26.879
<v Speaker 1>because it took me so much longer to move on.

0:52:27.000 --> 0:52:29.399
<v Speaker 1>Like I was a hot mess for a really, really

0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:32.800
<v Speaker 1>long time. So I can say from the other side,

0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:34.879
<v Speaker 1>like Laura is saying, go and do it, because she's

0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:37.799
<v Speaker 1>done it. She sought help and it really helped her,

0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I can say go and seek help because I didn't,

0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:43.360
<v Speaker 1>and I saw what that did to me. Yeah, totally.

0:52:43.440 --> 0:52:45.239
<v Speaker 1>And I think like the biggest thing that I did

0:52:45.320 --> 0:52:47.800
<v Speaker 1>that was of benefit to me was going and speaking

0:52:47.800 --> 0:52:50.680
<v Speaker 1>to a therapist and unpacking what it was in my

0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:53.640
<v Speaker 1>relationship and why I was attracted to this and really

0:52:53.840 --> 0:52:57.279
<v Speaker 1>understanding what had happened a bit better. And I think

0:52:57.320 --> 0:52:59.719
<v Speaker 1>that's that's like something what you just said, brit is

0:52:59.800 --> 0:53:02.240
<v Speaker 1>like something that I think so many people who experience

0:53:02.320 --> 0:53:06.680
<v Speaker 1>this to have to overcome is just how long it

0:53:06.760 --> 0:53:09.839
<v Speaker 1>takes and how deep the damage goes when you're in

0:53:10.000 --> 0:53:13.319
<v Speaker 1>a narcissistic relationship, Like it's it's so and can be

0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:16.480
<v Speaker 1>so traumatic, and like we talk about things from like

0:53:16.560 --> 0:53:19.879
<v Speaker 1>a gas lighting, lying, manipulation perspective, Like there's people who

0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:22.560
<v Speaker 1>are in these relationships and it's much more physical and

0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:27.040
<v Speaker 1>the abuse is much more volatile and frightening. And so

0:53:27.280 --> 0:53:29.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that that you know, the number one thing

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:31.719
<v Speaker 1>to do is go and speak to someone who's a professional.

0:53:32.360 --> 0:53:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Try to build up a life outside of your relationship.

0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:38.960
<v Speaker 1>So this is maybe you're reigniting or reconnecting with friends.

0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you are trying to find a new hobby or

0:53:42.800 --> 0:53:44.480
<v Speaker 1>going back to a sport or a hobby that you

0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:47.720
<v Speaker 1>used to do. That might be reconnecting with your family

0:53:47.760 --> 0:53:51.040
<v Speaker 1>against just something something that you can do on your

0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:55.480
<v Speaker 1>own for yourself, with your friends, separate, completely separate and

0:53:55.560 --> 0:53:59.480
<v Speaker 1>independently of him. So it's slowly slowly taking your life back.

0:53:59.680 --> 0:54:02.400
<v Speaker 1>And I really think that there's power in vulnerability and

0:54:02.480 --> 0:54:05.040
<v Speaker 1>talking about what it is that you've experienced. So if

0:54:05.080 --> 0:54:08.239
<v Speaker 1>you have, if you have been through this and you

0:54:08.320 --> 0:54:10.840
<v Speaker 1>are finding that you're isolated and you haven't been able

0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:13.759
<v Speaker 1>to connect with your friends, I do think that there

0:54:13.840 --> 0:54:16.439
<v Speaker 1>is power in actually talking about what you've gone through

0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:19.000
<v Speaker 1>and the reason why you withdrew from them, because if

0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:21.680
<v Speaker 1>they are your true friends or your family, they're going

0:54:21.760 --> 0:54:24.680
<v Speaker 1>to be much more receptive once they understand. Now, the

0:54:24.680 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 1>next one on your list, which is like something that

0:54:26.800 --> 0:54:29.040
<v Speaker 1>I think is really hard to work on after you've

0:54:29.040 --> 0:54:32.319
<v Speaker 1>been through these relationships, but it's just so critical is

0:54:32.440 --> 0:54:35.160
<v Speaker 1>working on your self esteem and working on your self

0:54:35.200 --> 0:54:38.560
<v Speaker 1>worth and knowing that what happened to you is not

0:54:38.600 --> 0:54:40.880
<v Speaker 1>your fault, and knowing that the relationship is not a

0:54:40.920 --> 0:54:43.839
<v Speaker 1>byproduct of anything that you did wrong, and also knowing

0:54:43.880 --> 0:54:47.239
<v Speaker 1>that like, you couldn't have changed anything about yourself to

0:54:47.360 --> 0:54:50.520
<v Speaker 1>make them treat you better, Like that's not the basis

0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:52.920
<v Speaker 1>of what would have made that relationship better. Yeah. I'm

0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:55.799
<v Speaker 1>not gonna sugarcoat it. It's the hardest thing to do.

0:54:56.360 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 1>It is so hard. It's one thing to say, build

0:54:59.640 --> 0:55:02.520
<v Speaker 1>yourself steam and get your confidence back. Okay, Yeah, how

0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the hell do I do that when I've just been

0:55:03.960 --> 0:55:07.319
<v Speaker 1>trampled over and I feel like a piece of shit. Yeah,

0:55:07.320 --> 0:55:09.040
<v Speaker 1>it took that took me a really really long time,

0:55:09.080 --> 0:55:11.359
<v Speaker 1>and I'm totally there now, but I'd be lying if

0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I said it wasn't really hard to do. And I

0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:17.080
<v Speaker 1>also think it's really important to start trying to bring

0:55:17.120 --> 0:55:19.520
<v Speaker 1>new things into your life that give you a sense

0:55:19.520 --> 0:55:21.920
<v Speaker 1>of self worth outside of what the relationship was like

0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:24.640
<v Speaker 1>for me, I know, like it kind of sounds lame.

0:55:24.760 --> 0:55:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I've talked about it before, Like I took up salsa

0:55:26.880 --> 0:55:29.799
<v Speaker 1>dancing and having which I laughed at every time. And

0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:33.040
<v Speaker 1>it's not funny, but it's funny. I went to solsa dancing.

0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:35.160
<v Speaker 1>I used a salsa dance like four nights a week.

0:55:35.480 --> 0:55:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I look like that red emoji absolutely and I'm steel

0:55:40.000 --> 0:55:43.120
<v Speaker 1>so bad at salsa dancing. But it was just something

0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:45.359
<v Speaker 1>that got me out of my own house. It got

0:55:45.400 --> 0:55:48.040
<v Speaker 1>me around a new group of people, and it forced

0:55:48.080 --> 0:55:49.520
<v Speaker 1>me to do something that was active. So I was

0:55:49.560 --> 0:55:52.680
<v Speaker 1>feeling good about myself, like endorphins were running and like

0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I really enjoyed myself. It got me out of such

0:55:55.160 --> 0:55:57.200
<v Speaker 1>a bad slump and it got me away from just

0:55:57.320 --> 0:56:00.880
<v Speaker 1>drinking or going out and partying, which wasn't helpful for

0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:03.040
<v Speaker 1>my mental state at that point in time. So you know,

0:56:03.080 --> 0:56:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I think it's it's lame to say start a new hobby,

0:56:05.680 --> 0:56:07.680
<v Speaker 1>but I also think it can be a really constructive

0:56:07.680 --> 0:56:09.920
<v Speaker 1>thing to do when you're in a bad space. God, no,

0:56:10.160 --> 0:56:12.759
<v Speaker 1>I start, I've said it, but two I enrolled in

0:56:12.800 --> 0:56:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Italian classes at adult education. Everyone was fifty plus. But

0:56:16.680 --> 0:56:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I had a great old time because I needed to

0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:20.080
<v Speaker 1>take my mind of it. We're not one of those

0:56:20.080 --> 0:56:22.520
<v Speaker 1>people that say, oh, start a new hobby, Like, we

0:56:22.600 --> 0:56:25.200
<v Speaker 1>don't just make it up. Literally, go and find something

0:56:25.200 --> 0:56:27.320
<v Speaker 1>that you always wanted to do, or that you're passionate about,

0:56:27.360 --> 0:56:29.440
<v Speaker 1>or that you want to explore further, and just go

0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:31.399
<v Speaker 1>and do it. I mean, you have free time now,

0:56:31.440 --> 0:56:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Like when you're not spending all every second of your

0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:37.320
<v Speaker 1>day filling somebody else's hole, you can fill your own hole.

0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:39.680
<v Speaker 1>That sounds very sexual, but it's not how I mean.

0:56:39.680 --> 0:56:43.000
<v Speaker 1>It's always make you can fill your own cup. You know, basically,

0:56:43.080 --> 0:56:44.719
<v Speaker 1>you have so much more time and so much more

0:56:44.800 --> 0:56:47.040
<v Speaker 1>energy to work on yourself, and that can be seemed

0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:50.400
<v Speaker 1>really overwhelming when you're absolutely at rock bottom, but it

0:56:50.520 --> 0:56:53.360
<v Speaker 1>is a really, really great place to start and The

0:56:53.400 --> 0:56:55.839
<v Speaker 1>last few things are just once you've decided to leave,

0:56:56.400 --> 0:56:59.920
<v Speaker 1>don't rush back into dating. Don't try and fix yourself

0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:02.759
<v Speaker 1>get over it by getting under someone else. You need

0:57:02.800 --> 0:57:05.800
<v Speaker 1>to sit in your own pain, in your own trauma

0:57:05.880 --> 0:57:08.600
<v Speaker 1>and your own experiences, and you need to heal yourself's.

0:57:09.040 --> 0:57:11.279
<v Speaker 1>Like I wish there was a magic cure, there's not.

0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:14.279
<v Speaker 1>The worst thing you can do is go and have

0:57:14.400 --> 0:57:18.840
<v Speaker 1>like a recovery relationship, a band aid relationship. Don't get

0:57:18.840 --> 0:57:23.320
<v Speaker 1>into another relationship until you know that if the relationship

0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:26.600
<v Speaker 1>goes bad, you're gonna be okay. That's the big thing

0:57:26.760 --> 0:57:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I think. Make sure that you're at a point in

0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:31.960
<v Speaker 1>your life where you know that even if shit goes wrong,

0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:34.120
<v Speaker 1>and even if you can't control it and you end

0:57:34.200 --> 0:57:36.400
<v Speaker 1>up in a bad space again, that you as a

0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:38.840
<v Speaker 1>person are going to be fine. I know that this

0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:40.560
<v Speaker 1>is gonna resonate with a lot of people. I know

0:57:40.600 --> 0:57:42.680
<v Speaker 1>this episode there's gonna be a lot of people saying,

0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:45.480
<v Speaker 1>oh my God, like I've been through that, or maybe

0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:47.400
<v Speaker 1>this is what I'm going through right now, maybe I

0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:50.080
<v Speaker 1>have a friend going through that. What I want to

0:57:50.160 --> 0:57:55.920
<v Speaker 1>really highlight here is that feelings of you're not good enough,

0:57:56.440 --> 0:57:58.520
<v Speaker 1>It's all your fault. If only you could have done

0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:02.160
<v Speaker 1>something better, if and you could have been better. They

0:58:02.280 --> 0:58:07.640
<v Speaker 1>are all really really normal feelings. They're not true. But

0:58:08.440 --> 0:58:10.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to lie to you and say that

0:58:10.840 --> 0:58:12.240
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to feel it. And if you feel that,

0:58:12.440 --> 0:58:15.680
<v Speaker 1>then you're feeling the wrong thing, because you will feel it.

0:58:15.680 --> 0:58:18.120
<v Speaker 1>It's human nature to feel those things. I felt them

0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:20.120
<v Speaker 1>for a long time and know Laura felt them. I

0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:21.720
<v Speaker 1>know every one of you listening is going to think

0:58:21.760 --> 0:58:24.440
<v Speaker 1>that you haven't been good enough at a certain time

0:58:24.760 --> 0:58:27.120
<v Speaker 1>in a relationship for that person, and that maybe if

0:58:27.120 --> 0:58:29.240
<v Speaker 1>you were just a little bit better, a little bit prettier,

0:58:29.720 --> 0:58:31.640
<v Speaker 1>a little bit smarter, a little bit funnier, that maybe

0:58:31.640 --> 0:58:35.080
<v Speaker 1>the relationship would have worked. It's so important to me

0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:36.920
<v Speaker 1>that you guys, get to a place where you do

0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:40.200
<v Speaker 1>know that that's not true. They're going to make you

0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:42.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like that. People will make you feel like that

0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:45.200
<v Speaker 1>in your life. I want you to feel like that

0:58:45.240 --> 0:58:48.480
<v Speaker 1>for about two point two seconds, and then tell yourself

0:58:48.480 --> 0:58:50.440
<v Speaker 1>how amazing you are. Think of all the positives in

0:58:50.480 --> 0:58:54.520
<v Speaker 1>your life, think of all the really good things, because absolutely,

0:58:54.560 --> 0:58:56.440
<v Speaker 1>if something doesn't work out, if for a relationship like

0:58:56.480 --> 0:58:58.760
<v Speaker 1>this doesn't work out. It has nothing to do with

0:58:58.840 --> 0:59:05.480
<v Speaker 1>you men, bloody men. Just to wrap this whole section up. Like,

0:59:05.520 --> 0:59:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I know, it's been big. I know it's been heavy.

0:59:07.800 --> 0:59:10.000
<v Speaker 1>There's so much to cover with this because there's so

0:59:10.040 --> 0:59:11.960
<v Speaker 1>many different types and there's so many ways that it

0:59:11.960 --> 0:59:15.480
<v Speaker 1>can display itself. But you know, like we said, we've

0:59:15.480 --> 0:59:18.120
<v Speaker 1>had so many questions come in and we have put

0:59:18.120 --> 0:59:19.680
<v Speaker 1>them in a bank. We're going to get a clinical

0:59:19.680 --> 0:59:22.720
<v Speaker 1>psychologists on to answer some of the really difficult questions

0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:25.160
<v Speaker 1>that you guys have put forward about narcissism and also

0:59:25.280 --> 0:59:28.320
<v Speaker 1>just about different types of personality disorders in general that

0:59:28.360 --> 0:59:31.520
<v Speaker 1>we've received over the last year doing this podcast. But

0:59:31.760 --> 0:59:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I feel like this was an episode that was a

0:59:33.360 --> 0:59:36.160
<v Speaker 1>really long time coming, and so I'm glad that we've

0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:38.880
<v Speaker 1>finally had this discussion and put it out there. We

0:59:39.200 --> 0:59:40.920
<v Speaker 1>want to highlight that we did read it all. We

0:59:40.960 --> 0:59:43.040
<v Speaker 1>don't want you to think that we're scooting over things

0:59:43.080 --> 0:59:44.920
<v Speaker 1>that we don't think are important, because we do think

0:59:45.320 --> 0:59:47.840
<v Speaker 1>there are. So we could talk about this for weeks literally,

0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:50.040
<v Speaker 1>and like we said, if you guys have any further

0:59:50.120 --> 0:59:52.240
<v Speaker 1>questions that you want us to throw at a clinical

0:59:52.280 --> 0:59:54.600
<v Speaker 1>psychologist and we do get them on hit us up

0:59:54.680 --> 0:59:56.840
<v Speaker 1>on our Facebook group, or you can hit us up

0:59:56.880 --> 0:59:59.800
<v Speaker 1>on lifelunk Cup podcast on Instagram and we'll add it

0:59:59.840 --> 1:00:07.680
<v Speaker 1>to the best. Well, that was a big episode, Laura,

1:00:08.040 --> 1:00:10.040
<v Speaker 1>bloody big one. It was a big one. But you know,

1:00:10.040 --> 1:00:11.640
<v Speaker 1>every now and again we have to do these ones.

1:00:11.640 --> 1:00:12.960
<v Speaker 1>We have to dog deep and we have to talk

1:00:13.000 --> 1:00:16.320
<v Speaker 1>about things we think are important. But let's now talk

1:00:16.320 --> 1:00:18.920
<v Speaker 1>about something a little bit more lighthearted. We don't finish

1:00:18.920 --> 1:00:22.120
<v Speaker 1>an episode without our suck and sweet, our highlight and

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<v Speaker 1>our lowlight of the week. So you are going first,

1:00:24.800 --> 1:00:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and I can see on your face that you've got

1:00:26.600 --> 1:00:30.640
<v Speaker 1>no idea what your suck sweet is. I can read

1:00:30.680 --> 1:00:32.960
<v Speaker 1>you like a book. I know what my sweet is. Oh,

1:00:33.040 --> 1:00:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I have so many sweets, which is bad. This has

1:00:35.440 --> 1:00:37.840
<v Speaker 1>been a really good week. It sucks first, dude, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, But okay, I suck. I'm just gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as much as there's some highlights to the

1:00:42.680 --> 1:00:45.360
<v Speaker 1>fact that Molly's growing to daycare, I hate that she's

1:00:45.400 --> 1:00:48.120
<v Speaker 1>going to day care. I hate it. There's no part

1:00:48.160 --> 1:00:50.760
<v Speaker 1>of my body right now that enjoys this idea. It's

1:00:50.760 --> 1:00:52.840
<v Speaker 1>a necessity so that I can get work done and whatnot.

1:00:52.840 --> 1:00:56.520
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'm not cool with it. I can two

1:00:56.520 --> 1:00:58.320
<v Speaker 1>weeks and you'll love it. Yeah, Okay, We'll talk to

1:00:58.320 --> 1:00:59.560
<v Speaker 1>me in two weeks time and I'll give you a

1:00:59.560 --> 1:01:02.240
<v Speaker 1>new sweet. But right now, that's my suck. My sweet

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<v Speaker 1>for the week is that we we have yesterday just

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<v Speaker 1>launched the new range for Tony May, and that has

1:01:07.360 --> 1:01:09.920
<v Speaker 1>been like six months coming and so much work, and

1:01:09.960 --> 1:01:11.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm like super proud of it. And I don't even

1:01:11.880 --> 1:01:15.080
<v Speaker 1>care if this is a plug, but it's you're all

1:01:15.160 --> 1:01:18.480
<v Speaker 1>llowed to plug. It's just our yeah, our new range

1:01:18.480 --> 1:01:20.560
<v Speaker 1>that we've been all working on and that I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like has consumed my life for the last six Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god. And I saw some of the pictures from

1:01:24.360 --> 1:01:26.400
<v Speaker 1>the campaign. Girlfriend, you were in one of the midlists.

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<v Speaker 1>Now hoping you notice, I've been like flipping it around

1:01:29.600 --> 1:01:31.800
<v Speaker 1>all episode, like waiting for you to notice, and you

1:01:31.840 --> 1:01:36.160
<v Speaker 1>haven't whipping it around my neck. So that's my sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been such a big business week for me and

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<v Speaker 1>for Tony May, and like I just, you know, very

1:01:42.360 --> 1:01:44.680
<v Speaker 1>very rarely do I have moments where I actually feel

1:01:44.720 --> 1:01:48.200
<v Speaker 1>super proud. I usually suffer from massive imposter syndrome, and

1:01:48.280 --> 1:01:51.000
<v Speaker 1>today I'm like, this is a good day. Oh I'm

1:01:51.040 --> 1:01:53.360
<v Speaker 1>proud of you. You wave bloody heart and the collection

1:01:53.440 --> 1:01:55.600
<v Speaker 1>is amazing. Have a look Tonymay dot com. I'm joking,

1:01:56.200 --> 1:01:59.480
<v Speaker 1>dot you is what she meant to say. What's your

1:01:59.480 --> 1:02:02.640
<v Speaker 1>sweet sucks? Okay, what's just suck? I hate mind Suck's

1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:05.840
<v Speaker 1>pretty funny but also pretty messed up. I've had this

1:02:06.000 --> 1:02:11.680
<v Speaker 1>some spider web on the just see me out, Laura.

1:02:11.800 --> 1:02:15.920
<v Speaker 1>I've had a spider web in my car window in

1:02:16.000 --> 1:02:20.240
<v Speaker 1>my mirror, you know, the side mirror. He obviously the

1:02:20.240 --> 1:02:24.800
<v Speaker 1>spider's obviously living behind the mirror. Because the spiderweb comes

1:02:24.840 --> 1:02:27.120
<v Speaker 1>out every morning. I brush it off, comes out the

1:02:27.160 --> 1:02:29.640
<v Speaker 1>next morning, and I'm like, you know what, snuggle on

1:02:29.720 --> 1:02:31.720
<v Speaker 1>in there. You're not doing any harm. Live your best

1:02:31.760 --> 1:02:34.680
<v Speaker 1>life in my mirror. Fancy spider live in an arrangee

1:02:34.680 --> 1:02:38.280
<v Speaker 1>and BONDI that randes some expensive rend that is freeloading.

1:02:38.720 --> 1:02:42.560
<v Speaker 1>He's got beach fuse to I was, I've been like

1:02:42.600 --> 1:02:45.040
<v Speaker 1>wiping the spiderweb away every day with a stick or something,

1:02:45.040 --> 1:02:46.640
<v Speaker 1>and he comes back and I'm like, fuck, I'm just

1:02:46.640 --> 1:02:48.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna let him up, Like he's not doing any harm.

1:02:48.600 --> 1:02:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Live your best life. Then, as I was driving back

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<v Speaker 1>from Port mcquarie. So this. I only saw this when

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<v Speaker 1>I was on the highway on the weekend. I noticed

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<v Speaker 1>that the spider web was now in side my car,

1:03:02.760 --> 1:03:06.680
<v Speaker 1>inside in the front mirror. Bit so I'm like, all right,

1:03:06.720 --> 1:03:10.120
<v Speaker 1>smarty pants, you've made your way in. So what I

1:03:10.160 --> 1:03:11.720
<v Speaker 1>had to do was get some spider stuff and I

1:03:11.800 --> 1:03:15.120
<v Speaker 1>killed him. Sorry. I'm like, I can't have a huntsman

1:03:15.840 --> 1:03:17.640
<v Speaker 1>running on the inside of my window on the hole

1:03:17.680 --> 1:03:20.200
<v Speaker 1>that just got really dark. That happened, Okay, give me

1:03:20.240 --> 1:03:23.080
<v Speaker 1>a sweet. My sweet is like, well, hasn't actually happened yet.

1:03:23.120 --> 1:03:27.080
<v Speaker 1>But I along with Laura, but separately. We're going to

1:03:27.080 --> 1:03:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Byron Bay this weekend. Oh yeah, I forgot so, but

1:03:30.040 --> 1:03:32.280
<v Speaker 1>both like, we're both going separately, but I'm sure i'll

1:03:32.280 --> 1:03:34.160
<v Speaker 1>see you. No. So I booked a trip to Byron

1:03:34.200 --> 1:03:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Bay and then britt booked the exact same trip on

1:03:36.480 --> 1:03:38.480
<v Speaker 1>the exact same days and was like, oh, maybe we'll

1:03:38.480 --> 1:03:40.400
<v Speaker 1>see each other. And I was like, well, clearly we're

1:03:40.440 --> 1:03:43.640
<v Speaker 1>going together now, Brittany, clearly we're going to see each other.

1:03:44.160 --> 1:03:47.040
<v Speaker 1>You sound I'm really making this. Old guy said I

1:03:47.080 --> 1:03:48.800
<v Speaker 1>was a stalkerl I was like, Brittany, why are you

1:03:48.840 --> 1:03:52.320
<v Speaker 1>parked out the front of my house again. Yeah, because

1:03:52.320 --> 1:03:54.959
<v Speaker 1>we do the podcast twice a week, we can't really

1:03:55.000 --> 1:03:57.720
<v Speaker 1>go anywhere or have a life because it's like three

1:03:57.760 --> 1:03:59.960
<v Speaker 1>days apart. It's not enough time to ever do it.

1:04:00.400 --> 1:04:03.240
<v Speaker 1>So Laura was like, heads up, I have to take

1:04:03.240 --> 1:04:04.600
<v Speaker 1>a week off because I have to go up for

1:04:04.640 --> 1:04:06.880
<v Speaker 1>a work trip to Byron Bay because you're doing shooting

1:04:06.880 --> 1:04:10.040
<v Speaker 1>stuff up there. And I was like, well, bingo, if

1:04:10.080 --> 1:04:11.600
<v Speaker 1>we've got a week off, I'm going on a week

1:04:11.680 --> 1:04:13.520
<v Speaker 1>holiday too. And then I was like, where could I

1:04:13.600 --> 1:04:16.800
<v Speaker 1>possibly go within New South Wales that I would want

1:04:16.800 --> 1:04:19.080
<v Speaker 1>to go and spend a week And just so happened

1:04:19.080 --> 1:04:21.080
<v Speaker 1>that the only friends I have are in Byron Bay.

1:04:21.160 --> 1:04:24.040
<v Speaker 1>So how following you that Britt is staying like a

1:04:24.480 --> 1:04:26.880
<v Speaker 1>straight away from me. We're taking the podcast equipment up

1:04:26.880 --> 1:04:28.240
<v Speaker 1>there and we're going to do next week's for it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to do next week's episode from Byron Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't actually even know where you're staying you a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, ahi, guys. And on that note, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for listening to another episode of Life Uncut. We hope

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<v Speaker 1>that you loved it. We hope that you've got something

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. We hope that you feel empowered and

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<v Speaker 1>that you have some people in this world who have

1:04:47.200 --> 1:04:49.760
<v Speaker 1>been through the exact same shit that you have been through,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know the drill or the housekeeping. If you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't signed up for the Facebook group or the Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>it's Life Uncut podcast. If you're on the Facebook group,

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<v Speaker 1>have to like select, not just like the page, because

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<v Speaker 1>we don't do anything on the page. That's that's it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a shop window. You're gonna get into best where

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<v Speaker 1>they're deady actually fight club. It's just like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretend version. You've got to get in in in deep

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<v Speaker 1>to the group and then we never talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>because never talk about it on every episode. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I just kind of deal with you

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<v Speaker 1>guys appreciate a lot because we love la