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Speaker 1: Many of you who listen to the show will know

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Speaker 1: that I'm fairly heavily involved in fundraising when it comes

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Speaker 1: to well prostate cancer and men's health. We've got the

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Speaker 1: Father's Day fun run run with Dad coming up on

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Speaker 1: Father's Day, and there's also a luncheon that we have

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Speaker 1: each year for the It's a Blokes Thing Foundation and

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Speaker 1: the education program facilitator Ruth Logan joins us in the

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Speaker 1: studio right now. Good morning Ruth, Good morning Katie, and

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Speaker 1: good morning all the listeners. Now, obviously we had a

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Speaker 1: massive luncheon earlier in the year. It was wonderful and

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Speaker 1: plenty of money raised. And what it means is that

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Speaker 1: then you're back here in the territory, traveling around to

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Speaker 1: and really going out and speaking to men about their

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Speaker 2: That's right. I'm starting that really vital conversation with men

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Speaker 2: because men are so timid about this, and you can

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Speaker 2: see them looking a bit shy when we start, but

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Speaker 2: as the as the talk progresses, they relax. It's about

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Speaker 2: talking their language, translating the medical jargon into everyday language

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Speaker 2: that blokes can understand.

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Speaker 3: It's my role and it's such an important thing to do.

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Speaker 1: I I'll never forget when my dad was first diagnosed

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Speaker 1: with prostate cancer and he almost felt a little bit

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Speaker 3: And I think, you know, we've got to break down

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Speaker 1: We've got to make sure that we speak about prostate

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Speaker 2: That's right, Katie, it's a really big deal for blokes

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Speaker 2: and we need to get the conversation normalized so that

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Speaker 2: blokes can talk about this like women do. But a

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Speaker 2: lot of that generation of your men, your father's age,

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Speaker 2: it was a very secret man's club, and that's why

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Speaker 2: it's a bloke thing. Foundation was initiated in twemb ten

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Speaker 2: years ago. Now well it's nearly eleven years actually, and

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Speaker 2: I have seen so far this year, I've had over

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Speaker 2: a thousand conversations with blokes about this. And if every

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Speaker 2: we're getting the message out there that this is not

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Speaker 2: The first one that I want all the men listening

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Speaker 2: have a conversation with your father, your grandfather, your brothers,

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Speaker 2: your uncles, any men in your life, because you've got

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Speaker 2: a greater risk of getting prostate cancer if there's someone

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Speaker 1: And then if they have, you know, if they do

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Speaker 2: Prostate cancers are very silent assassin, so most men in

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Speaker 2: the early stages of prostate cancer don't know they've got it,

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Speaker 2: and so we don't have a screening process like we

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Speaker 2: So we need men to step up to the plate.

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Speaker 2: And the next conversation they need to have is with

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Speaker 2: personal prostate plan, because everybody's plan might be different. I've

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Speaker 2: None of them have died from prostate cancer because they

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Speaker 1: I know that there's lots of talk these days about

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Speaker 3: So Ruth, what is it?

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Speaker 2: Well, PSA is a blood test, and for those folks listening,

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Speaker 2: That isn't necessarily going to tell you that you've got cancer,

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Speaker 1: Now, Ruth, I have had people say to me, I

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Speaker 2: Yes, I only give the guidelines based on the Prostate

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Speaker 2: Every dollar that is raised by it's a bloke thing

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Speaker 2: you have your own specialist prostate careness, Ruby based as

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Speaker 2: prostate cainness is that we fund through the foundation. And

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Speaker 2: then there's me in the education role, so I'm the

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Speaker 3: And I just reckon, it's so important, you know.

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Speaker 1: That's we organize a fun run on Father's Day obviously,

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Speaker 1: I just reckon, it's so important that our blokes realize

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Speaker 3: Please look after your health.

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Speaker 1: Please make sure you have that conversation, even if it

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Speaker 2: That's right. And it's difficult to get blokes to go

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Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean you've got cancer.

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Speaker 2: It just means you've got a benign enlargement usually. But

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Speaker 1: And Russell, there will be blokes listening this morning who

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Speaker 1: more information, or maybe there's there'd even be daughters, wives,

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Speaker 3: Where can people head.

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Speaker 2: To well, my suggestion would be the Prostate Cancer Foundation

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Speaker 2: of Australia PCFA doctor Google will show you where to

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Speaker 2: find that quite quickly, and they have a great range

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Speaker 2: One is the do I need a PSA test? The

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Speaker 2: is more about prostate cancer. Most men I know don't

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Speaker 3: That's what we want them to do. Absolutely well, Ruth,

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Speaker 3: it is lovely to see you.

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Speaker 1: Lovely to catch up with you this morning, and thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for coming on and telling all the blokes

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Speaker 3: Katie.

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Speaker 2: We never know when we're going to save someone's life,

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Speaker 2: and that's what I do every day try to save

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, it is very important work and I think gets

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Speaker 3: Ruth, thank you so much for your time this morning.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Katie, thank you.

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Speaker 1: That is Ruth Logan there and she's from the Zablokes

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Speaker 1: Thing Foundation, the education program facilitator and it is such

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Speaker 1: important work. Now, if you are after some more information, obviously,

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Speaker 1: you can head to the Prostate Cancer Foundation of Australia.

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