Speaker 1: The Flex and Frooms Daily Podcast.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the potty.
Speaker 3: It's Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 2: As always, this episode is so good, is it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's fantastic. Anyway, let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Flex.
Speaker 3: And did you know Flex that there is a difference
Speaker 3: between Emo and Scene?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Really no, but so confident?
Speaker 4: Tell me?
Speaker 2: Can I make my guess as to what the difference is?
Speaker 3: Please?
Speaker 2: I think Scene is more about the aesthetics, and I
Speaker 2: think that visually it's a little bit more upbeat, and
Speaker 2: Emo is more of a lifestyle and a temperament.
Speaker 4: True.
Speaker 2: See, Okay, well, I think.
Speaker 3: They're both lifestyles and temperaments. I agree with you that
Speaker 3: Scene is definitely more fun and Emo is a bit
Speaker 3: more serious in terms of sadness. Yeah, but they're actually
Speaker 3: both music genres which are quite different.
Speaker 2: Okay, give me an example, please, Okay.
Speaker 3: EMO stands for emotional hardcore. That's the origin.
Speaker 2: That is the origin, yes, of Emo.
Speaker 3: Emotional HARDCOREK and that is punk rock and indie rock,
Speaker 3: whereas Scene is prep emo socialites.
Speaker 2: The more I read this, are you getting this from
Speaker 2: like a verified source? The website? What is that? Is this?
Speaker 2: Stitch together?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: I'll tell you so.
Speaker 3: Artists wise scene is three three.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, banger Jeffrey Star okay, yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: blood on the dance floor, yeah okay, whereas EMO is Thursday,
Speaker 4: Policy of three, the Hated.
Speaker 2: Do you know any of these? No, my Chemical Romance?
Speaker 2: Yeah okay, yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 3: Tell me what year do you think each originated?
Speaker 2: Two thousand and seven for both? Yeah, even Emo? Sure,
Speaker 2: yeah incorrect.
Speaker 3: Emo began in nineteen eighty five, whereas Scene was a
Speaker 3: mid to late two thousands, which makes sense because in
Speaker 3: two thousand and seven I was definitely seen adjacent.
Speaker 2: What do you mean by that?
Speaker 3: I had a side fringe.
Speaker 2: Yep, It's a deep side fringe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, extremely deep, so beyond the end of my eyebrow,
Speaker 3: straight across the other side. And I think I definitely
Speaker 3: lived the scene lifestyle, did you.
Speaker 2: My entry into the Scene Hall of Fame would be
Speaker 2: year twelve formal. I wore a obviously deep side part
Speaker 2: shark toothed necklace that I got from a Museum of Morbidity's.
Speaker 2: I also a black lipstick. I wore huge demonia boots, huge, huge,
Speaker 2: huge mum vetoed the fish net, which I understand. Then
Speaker 2: this one shoulder mini skater dress to a year twelve
Speaker 2: formal heavy.
Speaker 1: None of you are doing it like me, flex and frooms.
Speaker 2: We all want to be successful, I think, so the
Speaker 2: way we do that m Some would say it varies
Speaker 2: from the scale of scamming to legitimacy.
Speaker 3: I think, are you a scammer?
Speaker 2: No? No Ah, I said no too quickly. I should
Speaker 2: have paused two three four No. Alas, here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Soldier Boy became the success he is from allegedly I
Speaker 2: don't want to need lawsuits allegedly tricking us into downloading
Speaker 2: his music via LimeWire. Here's how we did it. So,
Speaker 2: so those of you who weren't alive or old enough
Speaker 2: to understand what lime wire is or was, think before Spotify,
Speaker 2: before Apple Music, it was a highly illegal music downloading software.
Speaker 2: And how it worked is when you signed up to
Speaker 2: use the service, you had to give the platform access
Speaker 2: to one of your folders of music. What yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't remember that. That was a term of condition. So as
Speaker 2: you're signing up, you say which folder am I going
Speaker 2: to share? And like plug it into the cloud so
Speaker 2: everybody can access the music I have. That's how we
Speaker 2: shared the music. That's why it was illegal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, babe, okay, I understand it. Oh so like I
Speaker 3: could buy a CD and then put it into my limelife, yes, true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you see. Yeah genius. So his thing, what Soldier
Speaker 2: Boy would do is he recognized that every single week
Speaker 2: when the Billboard Top twenty would come out, people would
Speaker 2: race the LimeWire to figure out how to download you know,
Speaker 2: Rihanna Umbrella or for that boy thanks Maroon five exactly right,
Speaker 2: So they would run to LimeWire, type it in, and
Speaker 2: what Soldier Boy would do is he would assess the
Speaker 2: charts rename his song to be the name of the
Speaker 2: hit songs for that week. So when you downloaded your
Speaker 2: Beyonce or your Britney Spears or you Rihanna, you get
Speaker 2: a Soldier Boy track. And he did this so frequently
Speaker 2: and so amazingly that BEFO, before he knew it, millions
Speaker 2: of people were listening to his music.
Speaker 3: You know why it's so genius? Tell me it is
Speaker 3: giving drug dealer. Because when you're a drug dealer, okay,
Speaker 3: it might be ripping people off, huh, but the authorities
Speaker 3: cannot come after you because it's it's beyond the law.
Speaker 3: Like no one could be like, oh, my god, Soldier Boy,
Speaker 3: like I downloaded umbrella, but it was Soldier Boy. The
Speaker 3: police can't do anything because you were being wrong in
Speaker 3: the first place.
Speaker 2: Oh, I see what you're doing. Okay, So what Soldier
Speaker 2: Boy was doing is operating in like an unlawful arena anyway,
Speaker 2: that to expect morality is too much. And here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Do you not remember when you two? Was it you two?
Speaker 2: Mm hm, yep, easy easy. Let me let me get
Speaker 2: out the words that rooms and I don't need to
Speaker 2: share youtwo and Apple had this thing when they were
Speaker 2: launching like Apple Music or something where they had like
Speaker 2: installed you Two's latest album into our iTunes and we
Speaker 2: couldn't delete it. That it was issue.
Speaker 3: Bad album, Like I don't know a single hit from
Speaker 3: that album exactly.
Speaker 2: It's exactly what soldio Boy did. It's called growth hacking.
Speaker 2: So essentially, if you are somebody who wants to be successful,
Speaker 2: you need to find a way to scam people into
Speaker 2: using your service or listening to your music before they
Speaker 2: realize they're actually doing it. You could do the same
Speaker 2: thing on YouTube right now, Like let's say everybody's waiting
Speaker 2: for the latest Doja Cat video clip to come out
Speaker 2: you just steal a screenshot from one of those the
Speaker 2: pre launch music trailer things, rename it doja Cat, insert
Speaker 2: song here twenty twenty two, and just upload your music video.
Speaker 2: Will you get sued? I don't think so. Maybe copyright stracked,
Speaker 2: But it's worth it because look at Soldier Boy, a legend,
Speaker 2: the man, the myth. Nobody does like him and nobody
Speaker 2: will ever.
Speaker 1: This is flex and rooms on Keda.
Speaker 3: Two girl busses. I don't know if that term is
Speaker 3: still the thing.
Speaker 2: It's definitely not a term of endearment, and it's definitely
Speaker 2: I think with a certain demographic thirty five plus it
Speaker 2: definitely still is a term of endearment. Thirty five below,
Speaker 2: it's not. But I like that it's a little bit ironic. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I don't use irony often. I think it's in.
Speaker 3: Post post ironic. I think around a certain audience it's ironic,
Speaker 3: which reminds me it's kind of like people on TikTok,
Speaker 3: which is quite a beautiful segue.
Speaker 2: No, I'm going to stop you there, because TikTok is
Speaker 2: not ironic. It's actually quite a sensible and progressive platform.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing I would say I learn about
Speaker 2: sixty percent of my general trivia from TikTok if not
Speaker 2: seventy five percent, partly due to the fact that I'm
Speaker 2: always on the app, but again no free press, so
Speaker 2: brick Brock, And secondly because a lot of the creators
Speaker 2: they have found a way to condense actually educational information
Speaker 2: into one minute, and that's effect. I've got a question
Speaker 2: for you, though, when's the last time you were on
Speaker 2: a plane?
Speaker 3: Last month?
Speaker 2: Where'd you go?
Speaker 3: Melbourne?
Speaker 2: Okay? Domestic? Not doing international lung halls. I was on
Speaker 2: wet CLA. I don't know. Oh, okay, she was on
Speaker 2: wet CLA those who don't know. But here's my thing.
Speaker 2: I'm someone who is not afraid of flying at all,
Speaker 2: but I am afraid of small heights. I think this
Speaker 2: is a good opportunity to let you know. So I
Speaker 2: won't do balance beams, not doing trampolines. No trampolines, no
Speaker 2: balance beams. But I will do flying. Love flying those
Speaker 2: views from the top of a really high building. Love that.
Speaker 2: But alas, here are my questions about flying though. How
Speaker 2: do planes fly? Does it make any sense? No idea?
Speaker 2: Where does the waste go? After you? Number one and
Speaker 2: two are they just holding it in a bucket in
Speaker 2: the bottom of the plane. Is it dropping down from
Speaker 2: the sky? We don't actually know. Uh. Number three, where
Speaker 2: are they cooking the food? It's already made, but where
Speaker 2: in a little that's so many meals? Where are they
Speaker 2: keeping it?
Speaker 4: Four?
Speaker 2: Where are the flight attendants actually sleeping? Because I know
Speaker 2: in theory it's like in the side carriage, but there's
Speaker 2: so many of them and so few places to sleep.
Speaker 3: We're definitely talking long haul now, right, Yeah, of course.
Speaker 2: Babe, always long haul. I've never called a domestic flight
Speaker 2: in my life. I'm a long haul babe. Two types
Speaker 2: of people long haul babes, domestic babes. And my last
Speaker 2: two very important questions, what happens when you go into
Speaker 2: active labor?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's always a doctor on hand, I feel but what.
Speaker 2: Am I just going to give birth? And this plane?
Speaker 2: I feel like they don't let people who are in
Speaker 2: their last trimester fly for that reason.
Speaker 3: I don't know that seems a bit discriminatory.
Speaker 2: It does, right, but alas, and my last most important question,
Speaker 2: what happens if somebody dies on a plane? And I'm
Speaker 2: not talking like a slasher, like a murder, I'm talking
Speaker 2: a gentle wow, quick caveat. Not when someone's like horrifically murdered,
Speaker 2: because we would hope that would never happen. But if
Speaker 2: it just so happened that you reach the end of
Speaker 2: your life midway to a different destination. I came across
Speaker 2: a TikTok, a brick brock. No free press that is
Speaker 2: going to explain exactly what happens.
Speaker 5: The thing that always kind of freaks me out is
Speaker 5: that we have to put them back in their seats,
Speaker 5: and we have to reclimb the seat a little bit
Speaker 5: and put like a blanket all up to their necks
Speaker 5: so we cannot cover their face.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, So if it's a full flight.
Speaker 5: And the person next to you as a heart attack
Speaker 5: and we can't move anyone, you have a dead person next.
Speaker 3: To you until we land Jesus, and you just have
Speaker 3: to make it look like they're sleeping.
Speaker 5: Yea, and we if someone says, is the person next
Speaker 5: to me dead? You have to see it app yourself.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's super weird. That reminds me of I
Speaker 2: don't know if you learned this in retail working in retail,
Speaker 2: but if somebody falls over in your shop, you're not
Speaker 2: allowed to apologize. You can acknowledge that it's happened, like wow,
Speaker 2: you fell, but you cannot say sorry because you admit
Speaker 2: responsibility or blame. Similarly, if there's a dead person next
Speaker 2: to me and I query, it appears so and not
Speaker 2: yes or no. It looks like they're dead. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: I don't know. They might not be.
Speaker 3: I don't believe that. Is this coming from a pilot.
Speaker 2: Well, it's coming from a flight attendant, and I'm sure
Speaker 2: they have the same rules and regulations.
Speaker 3: I've never seen that.
Speaker 2: Well, you don't actually know because you probably thought they
Speaker 2: were sleeping. And that reminds me of you know, when
Speaker 2: you're on a window or an alec and you have
Speaker 2: that middle seat person who's like neck is rolling around
Speaker 2: all wild because they're sleeping and really relaxed. Yeah, they're
Speaker 2: not sleeping, bab give.
Speaker 3: Me the look.
Speaker 2: I was thinking. If somebody's next to me and they've
Speaker 2: carcked it, when am I going to start smelling it?
Speaker 2: When is it going to start disrupting my experience? I
Speaker 2: paid for these tickets. You know what I'm saying. You'll
Speaker 2: be happy to know putrifaction.
Speaker 3: Oh I hate it.
Speaker 2: Is the third stage of decomposition. That's like, yeah, you donation.
Speaker 2: So this is what happens when you've cacked it, and
Speaker 2: it takes four to ten days for you to start stinking. Really,
Speaker 2: So that's why I do believe that if someone has
Speaker 2: left us while mid haall flight, I'm never gonna know
Speaker 2: because I won't smell it. And to be fair, what
Speaker 2: can you actually smell on a plane? Because people fart
Speaker 2: constantly smell?
Speaker 5: Do you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I know they try to suck them out of the plane,
Speaker 3: but I think it's my noise sucking to me, my
Speaker 3: bloody body.
Speaker 2: I must stop you there, I stop you there.
Speaker 1: This is flex and fruit.
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Speaker 2: you need to be representation matters.
Speaker 3: Oh, I laugh at that. You know what flex? Have
Speaker 3: you ever heard about replacement theory? No, it's a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3: I love that, which makes me think you would have
Speaker 3: heard of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean if we go into it, I
Speaker 2: have no doubt that you know, I've scratched the surface
Speaker 2: of it. Can I guess what it's about? Clones? Yep?
Speaker 2: And hm, I'm happy for you to keep going well.
Speaker 3: Replacement theory conspiracy theory is about the idea that famous
Speaker 3: people have died and there are feelings pretending to be them.
Speaker 3: The most famous example of this is actually referenced here
Speaker 3: on my arms because it's Avril Levine.
Speaker 2: Oh you see and Melissa Avril and Melissa.
Speaker 3: Yes, so you knew about this?
Speaker 2: Can you explain why you always surprise one thing about me?
Speaker 2: Let it be known. I'm learned, not well researched, but
Speaker 2: the general trivia ten points always. So, from what I
Speaker 2: understand about replacement theory is that ages ago, maybe ten
Speaker 2: years or so, Avril Levine passed.
Speaker 3: It was actually twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: Twenty who knows how. That's second to the fact that
Speaker 2: instead of cutting into the record labels revenue, they just
Speaker 2: decided to replace her with someone else. How they did that,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure is it actually clones or using real
Speaker 2: people and giving them, you know, reconstructuring, reconstructive surgery.
Speaker 3: It's real people in this instance, a woman called Melissa.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's why that's Melissa is.
Speaker 3: So basically I mean, we saw her at the Grammys
Speaker 3: last week, did we, Yeah, she was there, And it's
Speaker 3: interesting to me because almost all of these replacement theory
Speaker 3: conspiracy theories are women. Who else President Trump's Millennia Trump,
Speaker 3: Millennia Millennia Trump. And the other one was, Oh, I
Speaker 3: just think it was Millennia, which I actually fudge you
Speaker 3: with that. I think that one's true.
Speaker 2: You think she's been replaced.
Speaker 3: Yeah, imagine being her. You'd be like, Oh, I didn't
Speaker 3: sign up for.
Speaker 2: This life Millennia replacement theory. It's not coming up in Google.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, no, there's a whole Wikipedia. Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: Tinfoil hat goes on, vibes are up. Why wouldn't this
Speaker 2: be true? I think if I was somebody who had
Speaker 2: a vested interest in this celebrity making me my money back,
Speaker 2: if something were to happen with that couldn't happen, and
Speaker 2: somebody was offering to be a replacement, why wouldn't they
Speaker 2: do that. I think that there are more pros than
Speaker 2: cons Number one, the person with the vested interest, the beneficiary,
Speaker 2: gets their coins. Number two, the artist's legacy lives on
Speaker 2: in life. Number three, really great coming actor gets the
Speaker 2: break of a lifetime. You get to bypass all that
Speaker 2: entry level stuff and go straight to the top of
Speaker 2: the ladder with someone with a whole discography, a whole IMDb.
Speaker 3: Look, I just believe that replacing theory isn't real.
Speaker 2: Well you think it's not real?
Speaker 3: No what, I brought it to the table because I
Speaker 3: knew you would think it would be real.
Speaker 2: I just set it up that way. That is wild.
Speaker 1: You're listening to Flex and Frooms on Kada.
Speaker 3: Dear Flex and frims dot. I'm from Scandinavia, but I've
Speaker 3: been living in Australia for about ten years.
Speaker 2: Ah.
Speaker 3: I met my girlfriend five years ago and I proposed
Speaker 3: to her last week.
Speaker 2: Oh congrats.
Speaker 3: Then this is where a problem has arisen. Oh she
Speaker 3: feels like I'm a bit cheap with the engagement ring.
Speaker 3: I bought her one that costs four hundred and fifty dollars. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're grea missing at that. I'm well aware of the
Speaker 3: campaign jewelry stores.
Speaker 2: The propaganda call it what it propaganda.
Speaker 3: In the fifties that basically said an engagement ring should
Speaker 3: be two or three times your monthly salary. I'm all
Speaker 3: four when in Rome, But in this case, I don't
Speaker 3: agree with it at all, and I'm quite frankly downright
Speaker 3: stupid if I do that, and it's a huge waste
Speaker 3: of money that can be spent on other things like
Speaker 3: the wedding or a trip on our honeymoon. Selfish, she
Speaker 3: thinks I'm cheap and makes snarky remarks. Since then, if
Speaker 3: we're eating out, for example, she'll say, are you sure
Speaker 3: you don't want to buy beer brand instead? It's cheaper
Speaker 3: and the money can be used on better things. Oooh,
Speaker 3: And it's not like I'm like Australia bad, my country
Speaker 3: good in other areas. It's just this particular area I
Speaker 3: find stupid because I'm against the more expensive equals better mindset.
Speaker 3: What can I do to solve this?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think in this instance two things can be true.
Speaker 2: It can be a ridiculous concept, but unfortunately this ridiculous
Speaker 2: concept is really important to the person you want to marry,
Speaker 2: and the fact that you didn't know that before you
Speaker 2: propose to them is very interesting. Did you bring a
Speaker 2: proposal on this person not consider what they might want
Speaker 2: as their dream proposal? And now you're punishing this person
Speaker 2: for having different interests or wants a need for this
Speaker 2: really like celebratory moment because.
Speaker 3: It sounds like he can't afford it. He's just not
Speaker 3: liking the idea of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he cannot like the idea of it. He's
Speaker 2: disrespecting the fact that she wants it. I think the
Speaker 2: fact that he's unwilling to like, he keeps taking the bait.
Speaker 2: It's clearly irritating her more than he wants to believe.
Speaker 2: And I think he's talking it down to like it's
Speaker 2: a silly custom because I'm from here and you're from there,
Speaker 2: and it's like, no, this is interpersonal and it's about
Speaker 2: your dynamic. Now. If you're nip it in the bud,
Speaker 2: you act to be a single person.
Speaker 3: We don't want to be single. They've been together for
Speaker 3: five years. That's kind of like a lot to throw
Speaker 3: down the drain.
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. It's five years that's culminated in
Speaker 2: this little moment. And while it doesn't need to be
Speaker 2: too or three months salary because I could be like
Speaker 2: twenty thirty k for someone, it's a lot of money.
Speaker 2: Clearly four p fifty isn't enough. It's not enough, So
Speaker 2: let's find the middle ground. Both of them need to compromise.
Speaker 2: She's not getting a two to three month salary and
Speaker 2: the four fifty is not good enough. Let that be
Speaker 2: a little costume, costume, jewelry moment, you know, have put
Speaker 2: it on, enjoy it, but like let her enjoy. That's
Speaker 2: the one thing that's gonna get me is this is hard.
Speaker 2: She's gonna remember her engagement, bickering about you know, money,
Speaker 2: when you're at restaurants, when you're trying to vibe, it's
Speaker 2: not a good vibe. Someone needs to be quote unquote
Speaker 2: the bigger person, and it's going to be this person
Speaker 2: who's emailed us. Statistically, in heterosexual relationships, marriage is best
Speaker 2: statistically for the man. So SIS will be doing herself
Speaker 2: a service if she decides to break up with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, keep the top of your mind.
Speaker 2: Keep that in mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah a threat.
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