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Speaker 1: Katie Wolf covering the issues that affect you every day

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Speaker 1: and only on Mix one oh four point nine.

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Speaker 2: You are listening to Mix one O four point nine now.

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Speaker 1: Despite the high early voter turnout, so more than twenty

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Speaker 1: thousand Territorians already turning out to vote well, those election

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Speaker 1: promises are continuing to flow through and yesterday a significant

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Speaker 1: announcement by the COLP who say that they're going to

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Speaker 1: commit three million dollars in bonuses to territory police. Now

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Speaker 1: it is all in the hopes of keeping more experienced

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Speaker 1: police officers in the job. And joining me in the

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Speaker 1: studio right now is the Northern Territory Police Association President

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Speaker 1: Nathan Finn.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Finny, Good morning Katie, Good morning for your listeners.

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Speaker 1: Now, Phinny, an interesting announcement I think yesterday these plans

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Speaker 1: if elected, the COLP saying that they are going to

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Speaker 1: have this retention bonus.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of this move here?

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Speaker 3: We obviously welcome me out longing the proposal and obviously

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Speaker 3: opens the door to a communication now too, obviously talk

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Speaker 3: about the real nitty gritty of what they're actually proposing.

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Speaker 3: We fully support the retention bonus for our experience members

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Speaker 3: and it's a topic of our discussion that's going to

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Speaker 3: be high and mighty at our at a conference next week.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so next Friday is the annual conference.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, I mean, it's going to be tough timing in

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Speaker 1: the sense that it's just before the Northern Territory election.

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Speaker 1: But for you guys, you know, it doesn't matter when

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Speaker 1: the election's on, does it. You're still got to stand

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Speaker 1: up for your officers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. And we've got our priorities and we've got

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Speaker 3: a priority set. We've set that both to both government

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Speaker 3: obviously the opposition as well. So our priority has been

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Speaker 3: said of what we need and what we've been asking

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Speaker 3: for for a number of years. That the priorities, looking

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Speaker 3: back from the last election, priorities that we had for

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Speaker 3: the Northern Territory Police Association, they haven't changed in a

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Speaker 3: great deal and they still haven't been actioned by this government.

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Speaker 3: And we're hoping we get some insight and obviously traction

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Speaker 3: with those priorities that we have.

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Speaker 2: Finnick, tell me just with this retention bonus.

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Speaker 1: First off, how many officers have we lost, let's say

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Speaker 1: this year or give us a figure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So since the first to Jenery Caty. We've lost

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Speaker 3: just over eighty officers and outlines to about seven hundred

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Speaker 3: years worth of experience and that's horrendous, as I keep saying,

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Speaker 3: the nutrition rate, and we need to look after our

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Speaker 3: experienced members and make sure that they feel supported and

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Speaker 3: why the reasons why they're leaving because they don't feel supported,

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Speaker 3: they don't feel valued. We've said time and time again

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Speaker 3: through our survey results that our members don't feel supported

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Speaker 3: by this government and we're seeing this every day. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 3: in the last week, we're seeing these announcements being made

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Speaker 3: we're sick to death of it now. Members are sick

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Speaker 3: to death of it. We're sick to death of the promises.

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Speaker 3: What have you done for the last eight years. Don't

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Speaker 3: come up here now, pork barreling now to try and

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Speaker 3: get reelected, actually do something that actually deserve our members

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Speaker 1: Hey, on those offices leaving, our exit interviews conducted and

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Speaker 1: what are people saying, what are police saying? Is it

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Speaker 1: that you know that they're not feeling supported Like you've

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Speaker 3: Are struggling cody and they're fatigued. As we've highlighted over

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Speaker 3: a number of number We've been under resource for a

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Speaker 3: long long time. We've been under supported by this government

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Speaker 3: for a long long time. Our members are tied, Our

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Speaker 3: can't get to the jobs that they want to get to.

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Speaker 3: They want to help the community and they unfortunately they

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Speaker 1: The retention bonus, is it enough? Like, is it enough

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Speaker 1: money and is it going to last long enough? From

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Speaker 1: what the COLPS and outside the.

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Speaker 3: COLP announcement was for a twelve month trial, which we

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Speaker 3: don't agree with that all, Katie. That's only recognizing the

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Speaker 3: That's not what we want. We want to recognize the

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Speaker 3: We want to make sure that everyone that reaches these

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Speaker 2: Hey, this morning or yeah, this morning.

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Speaker 1: Basically, the Northern Territory government, the current Labor government, have

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Speaker 1: they're saying that, you know that from this point on

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Speaker 3: What are they trying to do, Katie, get rid of

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Speaker 3: fourth tier of policing in? Unfortunately this is throught with danger, Katie.

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Speaker 3: Our police officers are professionally trained and to know how

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Speaker 3: to de escalate situations. Again, if we're going to give

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Speaker 3: everyone powers of this sort of nature, why we've got

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Speaker 1: And the other part of it is like, if that's

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Speaker 3: But then Katie, I did the highlight that the police

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Speaker 3: force will be training these members. I'm sorry, but we

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Speaker 3: can't even train our own now what they said, that's

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Speaker 3: what they've said. We can't even train our own members

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Speaker 2: I've aised at the police about.

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Speaker 3: I only hope, So that definitely haze with me. But

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Speaker 3: that's nothing unusual because I'm quite negative towards the government,

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Speaker 3: as they keep telling in their media releases. I'm only

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Speaker 3: negative because there's no consultation, there's no discussions. We just

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Speaker 3: do what you want to do and get on. We

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Speaker 3: represent ninety eight percent of our members, our police members,

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Speaker 3: and we fight for their conditions and work entitlements every single.

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Speaker 1: Daycading Finny just took me through in terms of, you know,

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Speaker 1: ahead of this Northern Territory election. What are some of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely want to see changes, especially our members

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Speaker 3: aren't punching baggers. They're being assault at huge rates. We

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Speaker 3: that even though the money has been allocated to extra police,

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Speaker 3: we're still not seeing extra police. Our attrition rates still

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Speaker 3: obviously matching those recruits that are coming in, and we're

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Speaker 3: losing experience. Katie. We need to make changes in the

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Speaker 3: legacy framework and respect to the youth, the revolving door

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Speaker 3: that we have there. We're not social workers. We do

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Speaker 1: Are, and are either of those political parties committing to

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Speaker 1: different changes in those spaces.

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Speaker 3: No, So we send our priorities document to the government

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Speaker 3: and also in our position last week, we still haven't

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Speaker 3: from either basically say that they've received it, thank you

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Speaker 3: for sending through the document. It's some thirty two pages

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Speaker 3: of priorities that we list as our priorities for our

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Speaker 3: And the retention bonus is obviously forms part of that,

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Speaker 3: and there'll be discussion as we go into the conference

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Speaker 1: So have you got both the opposition leader and the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's correct, Katie. So I'll have an opening address

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Speaker 3: present to the conference as well for ten minutes each.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, you know, what do you think

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Speaker 3: There's a level of frustration. The level of frustration that

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Speaker 3: under resourced. They don't believe that the government's doing enough

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Speaker 1: So, Finny, so I'm assuming that you've conducted a survey

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Speaker 2: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: We haven't conducted a survey in respect to this yet, yep,

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Speaker 3: but we will be obviously discussing that as we go forward.

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Speaker 3: We've got a lot of survey results that we've done

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Speaker 3: over the previous few years, but highlight obviously the sentiments

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Speaker 3: and to make sure we're representing that the most members

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Speaker 1: I tell you what, I'm very interested to see how

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Speaker 1: that conference goes next week. We'll lock in an interview

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I'm happy for you to come along and

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Speaker 3: obviously broadcast that live if you like. Down the Boss

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Speaker 3: to ask. If you don't ask, you don't recognize that

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Speaker 1: Look, something I think happens over the years, and I've

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Speaker 1: seen it quite a bit, you know, not just with

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Speaker 1: sometimes politicians get really frustrated with the industry groups. When

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Speaker 1: you go your job is actually to represent the people

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Speaker 1: that are part of your union, and that's ninety eight

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Speaker 1: percent of the police force. You're not coming out and

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Speaker 1: spouting off your own opinion. You're speaking to police officers.

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Speaker 1: And I actually think it's remiss of any political party

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Speaker 3: And definitely it's not my personal opinions, Cadie, and my

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Speaker 3: personal opinions don't matter. It's the opinions of the membership

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Speaker 3: we tell them they've done good stuff. When they consult

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Speaker 3: with us, we're happy to consult with them. We're happy

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Speaker 3: to provide evidence. We'd information and background evidence to their

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Speaker 3: can work with this legislation. This legislation will be good

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Speaker 3: for all our members. But unfortunately I don't tend to

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Speaker 3: do that, and we keep seeing this bungled policies and

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Speaker 3: bungled legislation that we can't manage or can't work with.

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Speaker 2: Well, Nathan Finn, it's always good to catch up with you, mate.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you again. Look, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: we will next week, but we will definitely the week after.

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Speaker 3: Right. Sounds good, Katie, But make sure you look after

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Speaker 3: yourself and obviously to all men and women out there

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Speaker 3: in blue, we've got your back and we hear your frustrations.

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Speaker 3: We hear your support as well. But make sure that

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Speaker 3: we're here to support you and make sure that you

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Speaker 3: can do the best possible job you can.

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Speaker 1: And a big thanks to them for the work that

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Speaker 1: they do. Thank you, Finny, appreciate your time this morning.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. It is just twenty eight minutes

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Speaker 1: after nine o'clock. That number, if you'd like to call

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Speaker 1: through today eight nine four one one four nine