1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families Podcast. It's the podcast for the 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: time poor parent who just wants answers Now. 3 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: Hello, this is doctor Justin Coulson, the author of a 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 2: bunch of books about how to make your family happier. 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 2: Happy New Year. By the way, not here with Kylie today, 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: and it's breaking my heart that I'm not with her. 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: It's actually genuinely crushing me. A little bit of a 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: story to this, But Kylie's not living with me at 9 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: the moment. It's okay. Our family is happy and our 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: relationship is intact. But we're moving house. We're leaving Brisbane 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: and Kylie is in the process of helping us to relocate, 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: so we'll talk about that later. Joining me today, I 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 2: have somebody who I think you're going to be so 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: excited to meet and for the next week, all of 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 2: this week, Kate Mead is joining me on the Happy 16 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: Families podcast to talk kids and parenting and happiness and 17 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: holidays and the stress of what it is to be 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: a parent. Mean, welcome to Happy Family's podcast and all. 19 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: The messiness that it brings. I am here with you. 20 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: It's an honor Justin, and a shout out to Kylie. 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: I cannot feel her high heels or a sneakers or 22 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: any type of shoes that she walks. 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: But stop people on your feet and saying what are 24 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: you doing on my podcast? 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 3: I'll do my best just to keep your company this week. 26 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 3: How does that sound? 27 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 2: So Kate, So that our happy family's community can get 28 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: to know you a bit, they're probably thinking, well, what's 29 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: justin doing? This is random? This is not normal. Tell 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: us a bit about Cape Mead, the Cape Mead story, kids, family, 31 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: bit of background, all that sort of stuff. 32 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Sure. 33 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: So I'm a mom of three. 34 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: I've been with my husband now for twenty years. His 35 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: name is Chris. His nickname is Tank. If you'd believe 36 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: it is. 37 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: He built like one. 38 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: He is built like one. He is built like one. 39 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: So he's a big old footballer. 40 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: So you've been together for about twenty years. You said 41 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: you've got three kids. Tell us about the kids. 42 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 43 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: So Charlotte is eighteen, ready to have a bit of 44 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: a gap year. Yeah great. So then I have a son, Patty, 45 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: who is about to turn fifteen this year, who is 46 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: our athletic running, surfing kind. 47 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: Of dude, very casual, quiet little guy. 48 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: And then we have Chester, who is twelve years old 49 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: and Chester has autism with a mild intellectual disability and 50 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: a speech delay. So if you think about what a 51 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: crazy family looks like, there's a four year gap between 52 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: the oldest and the middle child, and then we throw 53 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: in a disability on the third wife around my house's 54 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: pretty crazy. 55 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, Kate, we probably are going to need to 56 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 2: talk about that during the week, what it's like to 57 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: have your family and to be going through the various 58 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: things that you are, especially those ages as well. You 59 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: also host a podcast I do. 60 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: It is called the Women of Influence and a sent 61 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: it come about justin because I managed to make it 62 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: on a list of the Australian Financial Review one hundred 63 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: Women of Influence. 64 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 3: Wow, and yeah it was crazy. 65 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: Well it was crazy to have my name on the list, right, 66 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: And I get to Sydney at the Sydney Town Hall 67 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: and it's this amazing black tie event and everyone's amazing 68 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: and there's little little Kate walking in the room thinking 69 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: I should not be in this room. But what was 70 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: fascinating was that I got talking to the other SAY 71 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: finalists and one of the young girls, she was sixteen, 72 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: and she developed a breastshield for women with breast cancer 73 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: to help them through their treatment, and I thought, where 74 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: are these stories? Who's telling these stories? Who's telling the 75 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: untold stories of Australian women, not. 76 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: The big ones in the media and the everyday woman. 77 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: And so that is how it was born. 78 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: Wow, I love it. So it's the Women of Influence podcast. 79 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: We will link to that in the show notes. I 80 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 2: would imagine that there's a lot of people, mums and 81 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: dads who would really be interested in hearing these inspirational stories. 82 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: Thank you for that. And maybe your biggest claim to 83 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: fame right now is that So you're based in Victoria, 84 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: but you're about to move to Sydney. 85 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: Because this is huge, Well it's huge in my world. 86 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm heading up to Sydney for Jonesy and Amanda Breakfast 87 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: show in Sydney and I will be one of their 88 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: senior producers and it's a big move really word for it. 89 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, So for those of you who are not familiar 90 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: with the Sydney radio market, Jonesy and Amanda Keller one 91 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: of the most popular radio programs in the country and 92 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 2: you're going to be running the show for them. You'll 93 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: be lining everything up, making everything happen and helping them 94 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: to sound fantastic. 95 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: It's a wonderful opportunity to get around and support them. 96 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: We're talking about two professionals that have been at it 97 00:04:58,520 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: for seventeen years. 98 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I'm. 99 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: Not sure about running the show, but hopefully supporting and 100 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: being a key member of the team. 101 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 3: That's what I'd be hoping for. 102 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: Hey, after the break, we're going to talk about a 103 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 2: couple of these things that you highlighted, Specifically, what it 104 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: means for your family to be moving into state given 105 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 2: that the family's not moving only you are, and you're 106 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: going to be commuting from Victoria to New South Wales 107 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 2: on a every so often basis, And how is a 108 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: family you came to the conclusion that this could work. 109 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 2: That's up next on the Happy Families Podcast. 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Find it now at happyfamilies 115 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 4: dot com dot au slash shop. 116 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 3: It's the Happy Families Podcast. 117 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: The podcast for the time poor parent who just wants 118 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,119 Speaker 1: answers now with Justin and Kate. 119 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: Sounds weird saying Justin and Kate for those of you 120 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 2: who I was going to say, for those of you 121 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: who missed it, but we're not on the radio. 122 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 3: It's a podcast. 123 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: If you've heard the first half, Kylie's not here this week, 124 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: Kate's with me instead. I was going to explain that, 125 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: but people aren't sort of coming back after the ads 126 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: and going, what's going on here? So Kate, let's talk 127 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: a bit about this role reversal. So normally when we 128 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 2: hear about commuting, especially via aeroplane and interstate, what we'll 129 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 2: find is that dad, in your standard biological family, the 130 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: standard setup, Dad's taking off. He's going to be flying 131 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: to Sydney once a week, or flying to Brisbane once 132 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: a week or whatever, having a few days up there 133 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: and then coming home for a couple of days. You're 134 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: doing it the other way around, and it's not one 135 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 2: of those five fo things where sometimes it'll be what 136 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 2: is it like ten days on, four days off or 137 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: something like that. What's your fly in flyout regimen looking like? 138 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: And how did you how did you come up with this? 139 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 2: How's it going to work? 140 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 3: Oh? This is huge, big, all enormous. 141 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: All of the little micro conversations I bet you can 142 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: imagine happens. When it was first presented, it was a no, 143 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: how can you do it? So? 144 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: Who did you present it to? Did you talk to you? 145 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 3: Just? 146 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: What's your husband's name? 147 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 3: Tank? 148 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: That's right, you told me his name before. But Tank 149 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 2: is the one that we're going to go with. So 150 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: did you sit with Tank and say hey, sweetie, because 151 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: of course that's what you call a tank. Did did 152 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: you say, hey, Tank, this is this is too good 153 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: to be true and I think I should do it? 154 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: Or did you bring the whole family together, because again 155 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: you've got you've got these three adolescents. Now, was it 156 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: everyone together? Or how did this play out? 157 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 158 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: It was no, Hey, bub this is I've just had 159 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: an amazing phone call today, something that's come out of yeah, 160 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: bub bub left of field, and I want to talk 161 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: about it because there's some opportunities that come along in 162 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: a lifetime, some you can say no to, and others 163 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: if you don't say yes too. 164 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: I would be worried that one day I'll roll. 165 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 1: Over one Saturday morning or in ten years time and say, 166 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: I wonder what would have happened if I'd had to 167 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: go right, I can't imagine living a life like that. 168 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: I can't actually, you know, and how we're trying to 169 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: raise our children, is that what's the worst thing that 170 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: could possibly happen? Nothing terribly bad can happen from having 171 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: a true So if you fail, if I fail at this, 172 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: I will have learnt. 173 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 3: I will have learned so much. And so it was, yeah, 174 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: originally it was no. 175 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: Let me ask you, how often are you coming back. 176 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 3: At the moment? Fortnightly? 177 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: Wow? 178 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: It is so. 179 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: So we've done, We've mapped out, We've got the calendar 180 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: out right, everyone knows, so we literally and then we 181 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: actually said to the kids, when do you want mom 182 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: home and straightaway? 183 00:08:59,320 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: Birthdays? 184 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 1: Right o? 185 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 3: Bang? 186 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: So we've got to be home for birthdays, Month's Day, bang, 187 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: Father's Day, bang, Easter bang. 188 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 3: So I was saying, I'm going to be home three 189 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 3: weeks in the weekend. 190 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: You know, one month or yeah, so special occasions non negotiable, 191 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, non negotiable. 192 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 3: So I keep saying it's fortnightly, but it. 193 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: Sounds like a bit more than that on paper though, 194 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 2: even though you're saying that, it's still it's challenging to 195 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: do what you're doing. I think that even though you're 196 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: not going to be on the podcast long term, because 197 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: Kylie'll be back next week, I think we're going to 198 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: have to check in and see how it's going with 199 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: the commute, and see you've just ended up moving in 200 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 2: with Jones and Amanda. 201 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: Then I'd love to. 202 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: I think I believe they live in much bigger homes 203 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: than the one I will be in. 204 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, probably probably, which means I'll have all that space 205 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 2: for you. 206 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: Well, justin this was not a decision like a snap. 207 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 1: This is what the whole family is going to do. 208 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: This has been a process or of about eight weeks 209 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: of micro conversation. 210 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: So it just doesn't work, does it. I don't know. 211 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 3: Maybe it does in some families. 212 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: But for me to lay down the law, which I 213 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: do try to occasionally in this situation though, that was 214 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: never it had to be micro conversations. 215 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: Well, we've done the same kind of thing with our family. 216 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 2: We have been talking about how nice it would be 217 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 2: to be near the coast, and we were actually over Christmas, 218 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: had a break and spent a week near the coast 219 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 2: on the on the beach, and as we drive home, 220 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: I said to Kylie, if I found out some awful news, 221 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: if I found out that I was going to pass 222 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: away in the next week or month or year, the 223 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: first thing I'd do is sell the house and move 224 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: the coast. And we kind of sat in silence for 225 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: a moment, and then I looked at her and I said, 226 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 2: what are we doing? That's if this is If this 227 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: is that important, what we what are we still doing 228 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: where we are? And there's so much to love about 229 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 2: where we are. It's not that we feel in any 230 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 2: way like things are bad. We have everything, life is good. 231 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 2: But that's what I would choose, if I could choose. 232 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 2: And I realized to hang on, maybe maybe there is 233 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 2: a choice here to be made. And then it was 234 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: the same kind of thing. Let's explore this with the kids, Hey, kids, 235 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 2: what do you think? How would it feel? What would 236 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: we have to give up? What could we gain? What 237 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: would work for you? And just those incidental conversations led 238 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: to a big decision. Anyway, Kylie and I all share 239 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 2: more about that in the next few weeks. Kate really 240 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: looking forward to this week. Thank you for sharing so generously. 241 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: It's going to be a great week ahead, and I'm 242 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 1: looking forward to it and don't worry, Kylie, I expect 243 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: you back next week tonight. 244 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 2: Brand new webinar, one that I haven't presented before. It's 245 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 2: all about milestones, your growth guide. How we can know 246 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 2: where our kids should be and when and why, and 247 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 2: what to do if they're not their brains, their bodies, 248 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 2: and a whole lot more. This is a webinar that's 249 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: included in every Happy Famili's membership. If you're a Happy 250 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: Family's member, it's yours free tonight. 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