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Speaker 1: It's a special Will and Woody podcast.

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Speaker 2: Mini.

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Speaker 1: Let's just talk about the fact we have Matthew McConaughey

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Speaker 1: on the show yesterday. And look, as I just said

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Speaker 1: before the song, I think it got really interesting for

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Speaker 1: me when we were asking him about how this maconnaissance

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Speaker 1: came about how his revolution in his career happened when

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Speaker 1: he just started making the biggest movies in.

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Speaker 3: TV and Hollywood from being pretty much just a piece

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Speaker 3: of eye candy. Successful eye candy. Oh yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, there's nothing wrong with it, was making lots of money,

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Speaker 1: but the point was he started turning down tens of

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars to continue to be eye candy.

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Speaker 3: Took it and took a bet on himself.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, to do like more serious movies, do dramas.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And he basically said it happened when he had

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Speaker 1: he started having children.

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Speaker 3: He had this clarity.

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Speaker 1: And I brought up the fact at this point that

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Speaker 1: my partner SEM's pregnant and we're having a baby next year,

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Speaker 1: and this lit him up.

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Speaker 3: You got a chart coming out, I do. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: she's pregnant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, first one, first one, yeah, first one.

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Speaker 4: Okay, the first six months after younew do.

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Speaker 2: Don't just double down on your instincts.

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Speaker 3: Triple down on your instincts.

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Speaker 4: Wow, from investments to relationships, to where you want to

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Speaker 4: live and go and what you want to do in life,

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Speaker 4: You'll never be more clear. Pretty wild, I would say

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Speaker 4: that's the opposite to what a lot of people view

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Speaker 4: having a child as.

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Speaker 3: One hundred percent They think that having a.

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Speaker 4: Child will mean they have to compromise in their career

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Speaker 4: or compromise in any other thing they want to do,

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Speaker 4: because the child takes so much time.

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Speaker 3: That's right, And I know, like particularly growing up, I know.

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Speaker 1: That both my parents sacrificed enormously so that we could

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Speaker 1: go to really good schools and have a great education.

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Speaker 1: And I know, being totally candid, this is a conversation

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Speaker 1: I've had with my partner all the time because it

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Speaker 1: just keeps bubbling up for me, is I'm incredibly anxious

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Speaker 1: about having a child because of the fact that it

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Speaker 1: will limit my freedom in terms of what I do

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Speaker 1: in my career. Because all I'm thinking about a lot

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Speaker 1: of the time is I need to keep making money

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Speaker 1: so that my.

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Speaker 3: Kids can be safe and enjoy a good life.

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Speaker 1: And as a result, any lateral thinking or Any sense

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Speaker 1: of exploration that I have in terms of what I

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Speaker 1: want to do just goes out the window because it's

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Speaker 1: just like, well, you can't think about that. You just

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Speaker 1: need to nail the best job you possibly can to

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Speaker 1: make as much money as you can.

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Speaker 3: And that scares me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 1: And so when Matthew McConaughey yesterday was just like, mate,

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Speaker 1: that's the time when you you don't have to double

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Speaker 1: down your in stin you tripled down on your instinc

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Speaker 1: he was like to and he turned down. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's easy for him to say he probably banked a

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Speaker 1: few checks before he made this decision.

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Speaker 4: He was comfortable it was in a goods doubling down

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Speaker 4: and tripling down exactly right.

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Speaker 1: He was in a good spot. But nevertheless he still

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Speaker 1: turned away. No matter what your circumstances are. He turned

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Speaker 1: away the surefire career so that he could seek out

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Speaker 1: what he wanted to do. And he said that having

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Speaker 1: a child gave him the clarity, gave him the clarity

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Speaker 1: of what he wanted to do. Now, this is totally

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Speaker 1: at odds with a traditional view that I have of

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Speaker 1: what it's like or what you have to give up

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Speaker 1: in order to be a parent, and I really I

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Speaker 1: just really want to throw this out to everyone listening

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Speaker 1: right now. So thirty one O six five is the

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Speaker 1: phone number is. And I know this is obviously different

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Speaker 1: for men as it is as it is for women.

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Speaker 3: I know that, So I'm not going to.

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Speaker 1: Try and pretend like whoever's raising the child has obviously

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Speaker 1: got a lot more, particularly your breastfeeding for example. You

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Speaker 1: obviously have to take a pause on your career, but

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Speaker 1: if we can just you know, obviously have that part

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Speaker 4: Here, but that clarity might still be there though absolutely,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: That's what I want to find out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty one O six five is the birth of

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Speaker 1: your kid the death of your career.

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Speaker 3: That's what I want to know.

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Speaker 1: And I this is totally in line with a conversation

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Speaker 1: I had with Josh Van kylen Berg, who's Hugh Van

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Speaker 1: and he said to me exactly the same as Matthew

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Speaker 1: McConaughey did as soon as his son was born, he's

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Speaker 1: never felt more motivated, driven to do what he wanted

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Speaker 1: to do because he was inspired about the idea of

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Speaker 1: making his child child proud of him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he has gone on to create an incredibly

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Speaker 4: successful podcast in The im Perpose.

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Speaker 1: Exactly right, which is totally at odds with what he's

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Speaker 1: a videographer. He was making like videos for surgeons and stuff.

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Speaker 4: And he speaks on that podcast now as well. But

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Speaker 4: I haven't heard the Imperfect podcast. Definitely go and check

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Speaker 4: it out.

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Speaker 1: So he's found a whole new voice doing that. Thirty

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Speaker 1: one and six five, I'd actually just love some advice

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Speaker 1: from you guys right now. It's going to be a

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Speaker 1: dad next year. Thirty one and six five. Is the

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Speaker 1: birth of your kid the death of your career?

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Speaker 3: I actually really love to hear from you guys.

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Speaker 1: Is I know this sounds like a bit of a

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Speaker 1: loaded question, but I'm having a kid next year. Was

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Speaker 1: my first baby with my partner. Seem I'm very excited,

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Speaker 1: But I have this very well drilled down anxiety in

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Speaker 1: me for some reason. Maybe it's the way with the

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Speaker 1: world that I grew up in. But is the birth

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Speaker 1: of your child the death of your career? That's that's

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Speaker 1: that's certainly an anxiety I have. I feel like you knows,

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Speaker 1: as the breadwinner in my family, I feel like I'm

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Speaker 1: just going to have to put my head down and

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Speaker 1: just whatever i've whatever job i've got, just secure it,

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Speaker 1: like down, make as much money as I can to

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Speaker 1: support my kids. I know it's a very old school

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Speaker 1: way of looking at things. I can't get out of

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Speaker 1: my head until we spoke to Matthew McConaughey yesterday, who

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Speaker 1: said that his mcconnaissance, the revolution, the renaissance of his

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Speaker 1: inspired to have a whole new life, which is totally

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Speaker 1: odds with every other way I viewed parenting. So is

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Speaker 1: the mcmonaissance a possibility the first six.

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Speaker 2: Months after your newborn?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't just double down on your instincts. Triple down

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Speaker 4: There's no time in life that a man's more mashculine,

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Speaker 4: So your last name is McMahon, So mcmonoisance, mcmonossance.

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Speaker 1: Let's go with Tara on thirty one and six five. Tara, Tara,

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Speaker 1: you actually yeah, really well, thanks mate? You agree with

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Speaker 1: Matthew McConaughey.

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Speaker 5: I totally do. I think, Look, you give up totally

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Speaker 5: like you give up stuff obviously when you have a kid,

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Speaker 5: but it opens you up to so much more, like

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Speaker 5: you're never more like confident and sure of who you are,

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Speaker 5: you know, all your priorities, because like they become so

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Speaker 5: clear and like you just and you're motivated but like

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Speaker 5: by something that you've never had before, because it's a

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Speaker 5: bit like beyond yourself. So you're like, yes, a minute,

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Speaker 5: don't mind working that hard. Yes, can take that on.

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Speaker 5: I reckon, they're good, They're good. I'm with Matthew McConaughey.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well who wouldn't be. I mean, that's that's amazing,

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Speaker 4: Much appreciative, said this because you're doing something for more

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Speaker 4: and you know, you say you do things for your partner,

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Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, you're doing it

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Speaker 4: for yourself. All was then the kid comes along, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and there's that motivation. Finely interesting, let's go Jesse here, Jess.

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Speaker 1: And the motivation part of it is like you know,

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Speaker 1: for me, that was always like thinking about making money.

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Speaker 1: But as I was saying that, I had that chat

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Speaker 1: He said, it's because you want to make your child

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Speaker 1: proud of you, and you don't.

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Speaker 3: Want you don't want that.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to be doing something that you're not

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Speaker 1: authentically attached to, because you don't want to be a

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Speaker 3: Michelle.

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Speaker 1: We had Matthew McConaughey on the show yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Is the birth of your kid the death of your career?

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Speaker 3: He seemed to think it was the start of his career.

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Speaker 1: He thought it was the reason for his mcconnaissance, what

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Speaker 2: I absolutely agree. So after having my daughter, I was

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Speaker 2: like going through standard postpartum stuff of like losing hair

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Speaker 2: and blah blah blah blah blah. Yeah, and ended up

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Speaker 3: So they're not They're not just the inspiration for your career.

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Speaker 1: They started your career because you started losing your hair

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Speaker 1: because you had a baby.

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Speaker 5: Exactly.

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Speaker 4: Wow, obvious next question here, Rachelle can will have some

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Speaker 4: of that oil.

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Speaker 1: Hear more of the boys on the Full Show podcast.

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Speaker 3: You know you want to