WEBVTT - 5 Signs That You're Dating Someone Emotionally Unavailable 💔

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex

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<v Speaker 1>and Frooms catch up podcast. It's Flex and Firms Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the potty such play to have you here?

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Firms on Kita. So the other day a

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<v Speaker 1>man beat a mobile phone driving charge which you can

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<v Speaker 1>lose five demerit points, so don't play this Sydney driver

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five years old. Turns out he was actually trying

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<v Speaker 1>to eat a packet of dippets, which I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>which is worth.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you legally allowed to be one hand off the

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<v Speaker 2>wheel so you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Spreadable cheese? It dippets? Or was it the snack of

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<v Speaker 1>cocting reports different?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it a it's it's a nationwide confusion. Is it

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<v Speaker 2>cosy a bikini? I think it's that type of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And this has got me thinking, flexi cheese. What an

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<v Speaker 1>underrated snack? Everyone, If you're listening and thinking, damn, this

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<v Speaker 1>is based white girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Millennials coming out cheese wine.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not speaking about the cheese and wine era. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back in the proson moment. Okay, I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a snack that is considered not cool. A bigger stringer,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, or a snack. My housemate is a Belle

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<v Speaker 1>is currently training to run a marathon. What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 1>She must edit her dietary requirements, needs more snacks. She

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<v Speaker 1>has founded a snack called Happy Cow. It is like

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<v Speaker 1>a sorry sorry, put some respects on Happy Cow's name.

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<v Speaker 1>Please flex Happy Cow. It's this like cardboard circle, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you open up the cardbird circle and there's like

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<v Speaker 1>eight little snack cheeses in pizza portions. Right. Then you

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<v Speaker 1>undo the foil and inside is a three cheese mixture.

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<v Speaker 1>This cheese is soft. It's a mix of three cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a fondant, a fondu. I've been eating them

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<v Speaker 1>as a snack at three pm because I alternate between

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<v Speaker 1>the lint hazel up block. I get a big kilo

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I just chop off a row every are though,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought it doesn't fill me up. It gives

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<v Speaker 1>me with a sugar high. I'm gonna pivot to the cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>Give it a go. Absolutely loving my Happy Cow eight

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<v Speaker 1>piece pizza based snack.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll heard you the first time, babe the Happy Cow

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<v Speaker 2>edging for that spino.

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<v Speaker 1>I would also is eat more cheese, guys. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>really good it's really good for calcium, and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>healthy feeling snack. It's good protein as well. Don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's great for period cramps though they say that. But

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<v Speaker 1>who told you that the internet? Don't trust the Internet.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're a mucasy babe like I can be sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>you're freaking me out. The throat mucus clearing throat thing

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<v Speaker 2>happens when your dairy consumption is high. Allegedly, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>no wheb MD. I'm just a humble woman.

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<v Speaker 1>It's giving, not human encoded. Okay, you get some signs

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<v Speaker 1>up your How do we.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually tell if we are or someone else is emotionally unavailable?

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<v Speaker 2>We will tread lightly with this topic because we don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to armchair diagnose anyone. We do it, we will,

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<v Speaker 2>we will, but take that as your disclaimer. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to censor myself, but you should censor what you

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<v Speaker 2>choose to hear from what we will say. Moving forward,

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<v Speaker 2>Refinery twenty nine just dropped an article called how to

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<v Speaker 2>tell if You're chasing someone who's emotionally unavailable, which I

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<v Speaker 2>think most people should get around because we, I say

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<v Speaker 2>we as a society, we who date often confuse blatant

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<v Speaker 2>disinterest with an avoidant.

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<v Speaker 3>Attachment style with emotional unavailability, don't get it to same,

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<v Speaker 3>and they are different things and we should know how

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<v Speaker 3>to discern between them. The article references Lily not me

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three, I'm twenty nine, you're twenty five, babe, okay

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<v Speaker 3>status sexual relationship with someone which she hoped would turn

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<v Speaker 3>more serious and romantic over time, but just ended up

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<v Speaker 3>constantly disappointing her A tale as old as time, She said,

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<v Speaker 3>Between the constant pendulum swing, did I write this pendulum swing?

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's a flex code of phrase.

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<v Speaker 2>Between the constant pendulum swing, between him showing me intense

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<v Speaker 2>affection and then completely ignoring me, and a complete inability

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<v Speaker 2>to tell what he was thinking at any given time,

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<v Speaker 2>it started to become pretty clear he wasn't interested or

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<v Speaker 2>was just incapable of committing so. Therapist Maria Sosa, who's

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<v Speaker 2>holistically Grace on Instagram, explains that we often mistake signs

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<v Speaker 2>of emotional unavailability for excitement and chemistry and mystery, right like,

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<v Speaker 2>are they hard to get a hold of because they're

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<v Speaker 2>just busy people? Or are they not available for you?

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<v Speaker 2>I will say it's a futile task of fool's errand

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<v Speaker 2>to try and discern or to try and tell what

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<v Speaker 2>someone is thinking. You will never be right because humans

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<v Speaker 2>are contradictory and fickle at the best of times. So

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<v Speaker 2>the article then goes into how to tell if someone

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<v Speaker 2>is emotionally unavailable based on how you respond to them,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think is healthy and helpful. So one, you

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<v Speaker 2>get really excited at the slightest bit of affection because

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<v Speaker 2>they don't usually show you any So they're holding a hand,

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<v Speaker 2>You're freaking out. You get unusually excited when they reach

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<v Speaker 2>out and talk to you because they rarely do.

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<v Speaker 1>You drop all of.

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<v Speaker 2>Your plans to hang out with them when they finally

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<v Speaker 2>suggest it, or they aren't too busy for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Not good.

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<v Speaker 2>You feel like you're constantly trying to figure them out

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<v Speaker 2>or navigate their changing moods. You're constantly asking your friends

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<v Speaker 2>and family to help decipher their behavior or their intentions.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's a great framework. Should we call

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<v Speaker 2>someone emotionally unavailable because of that? They could just not

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<v Speaker 2>like you. Yeah, let's be careful not to brand people things.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just assess how we feel in response to them.

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<v Speaker 2>What I want to discuss those is thought I was

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<v Speaker 2>having when reading this article by Refinery twenty nine. The

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<v Speaker 2>article in case you want to go check it out

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<v Speaker 2>for yourself. It's called how to tell if You're chasing

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<v Speaker 2>someone Who's emotionally unavailable. It's an easy read three to

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes you have it. It made me think, are

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<v Speaker 2>people becoming more emotionally unavailable the longer they choose to date? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>What is for certain? When you are dating there is

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<v Speaker 2>bound to be disappointment. Not everyone that you have a

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<v Speaker 2>crush on eventuates. Not to say that that's a bad

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<v Speaker 2>thing or a good thing. But I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>we as a people have developed enough resilience and enough

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<v Speaker 2>emotional intelligence to accept that for what it is and

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<v Speaker 2>move on. I imagine for a lot of people, after

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<v Speaker 2>any failed dating interaction, you build another brick, another wall,

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<v Speaker 2>another barrier that makes you less able to participate in

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<v Speaker 2>dating freely or with a sense of openness, maybe even

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a naivity. I feel it's really easy to

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<v Speaker 2>be like, I know what's happening next, I know what's

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen, I know how this ends, when really

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<v Speaker 2>you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't.

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<v Speaker 2>But with that being said, do you agree with my analysis?

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<v Speaker 2>Or the question I've post.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think you can go either way. You can

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<v Speaker 1>go either two extreme ways. You can become totally walls down,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't if you're not desper but like you

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<v Speaker 1>know what you want so badly that you're more open

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<v Speaker 1>to different people that you originally wouldn't be, So I

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<v Speaker 1>think the walls are down. But also, yeah, like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's only a human to want to protect

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<v Speaker 1>yourself when you've been hurt time and time again.

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<v Speaker 2>I've mentioned before that I don't like to tell people

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<v Speaker 2>who they are, but I do like to call out

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<v Speaker 2>behavior if it's requested of me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And so a friend was basically establishing some parameters of

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<v Speaker 2>what had happened in a dating circumstance, and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like you're emotionally unavailable, because like what you're doing

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<v Speaker 2>is very aligned with the people you are dating, and

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<v Speaker 2>you would brand their behavior as being emotionally unavailable, to

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<v Speaker 2>which she said, well, what even is that?

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<v Speaker 4>Then?

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<v Speaker 2>What is emotional? Aren't we aren't we all emotionally unavailable?

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<v Speaker 2>Which I said, potentially, let's look up some key characteristics

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<v Speaker 2>in case you don't want to Google, because I live

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<v Speaker 2>on Google. I don't mind being here a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>longer every day, cheapest creepers emotional. Here's a hack on

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<v Speaker 2>how to google emotional emotionally unavailable characteristics.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we know what they are. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>emotionally unavailable is a thing that exists. Don't make me say,

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<v Speaker 1>do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think it's more like a response to a situation as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to something you can identify as we're not therapists,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, to the wrong person, I might come

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<v Speaker 2>across as emotionally unavailable, I just don't like you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>This idea of avoiding commitment or labels things staying really surface,

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<v Speaker 2>keeping you at arm's length, struggling to empathize, being really

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<v Speaker 2>unclear about what you want or what you're able to give,

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<v Speaker 2>getting defensive, being inconsistent, not knowing how much to trust

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<v Speaker 2>or if you can trust. And also I think the

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<v Speaker 2>big kicker is not being able to provide what you expect.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like, in order to maintain a certain level

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<v Speaker 2>of availability, you need to be available, not come with.

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<v Speaker 1>The games and the walls and be like, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know why they're not responding.

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<v Speaker 1>I do, yeah, and games forget games, guys. But also

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you need to have some games. Oh, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of fun. Let's be real.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to flex and Frooms on Kaita and A

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<v Speaker 2>Winter has a message for you.

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<v Speaker 4>What is it so interesting to me how people dress

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<v Speaker 4>when they come in for interviews And sometimes you feel

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<v Speaker 4>they're wearing clothes that they just bought that morning or

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<v Speaker 4>maybe the night before, and not something that in any

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<v Speaker 4>way suits their personality and who they are. And I

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<v Speaker 4>think what everybody should remember, whether they're interviewing at Vogue

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<v Speaker 4>or indeed anywhere, that we're not hiring your wardrobe. Always

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<v Speaker 4>remember a young man who came in in a dress

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<v Speaker 4>and a handbag and I gave him the job on

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<v Speaker 4>the spot. You have to dress for yourself, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>the same for any job that you might be going for.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it doesn't do yourself a service.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Fumy is not happy. Form is not happy. Spaen

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<v Speaker 1>me the details, Anna, expectfully, you were in the devil

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<v Speaker 1>wes Praduct. Whether or not you co sign that is

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<v Speaker 1>not for me to know. But the whole thing is

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<v Speaker 1>about her reinventing herself. Paul, what's her name? And Hathaway

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<v Speaker 1>and Hathaway Okay, that's traumatic to watch. Nah, all I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say is Anna Wintour. You've got me fossil, Yeah, FRUMI

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<v Speaker 1>looks pissed off. I don't very often this emotion is

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<v Speaker 1>coming from. I think it's the idea that like that

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<v Speaker 1>you need to change for somewhere like folk. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>create fashion. I feel like, oh yeah, it's like going

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<v Speaker 1>to fashion Week in Australia. You think, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got to wear something different. It is environment that

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<v Speaker 1>they've created, so telling people to come as they are.

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<v Speaker 1>We wearing a blue sweater is somehow not fashionable. Never

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<v Speaker 1>forget the frumby sweater like spare me. It's confusing.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked a lot about how I feel like people

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<v Speaker 2>are in denial about how much their appearance is a

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<v Speaker 2>deal breaker and how much you know, aside from all

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<v Speaker 2>of the other things your gender, your race, your socioeconomic status,

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of that can be perceptively or perceptually bypassed

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<v Speaker 2>by looking a certain way. Right. Somehow people forget racism exists.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a rich billionaire and black, surely it mustn't right.

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<v Speaker 2>Kanye talks about it constantly, But in this instance, Anna,

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<v Speaker 2>come on, let's not feed people. These comers, you are lies.

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<v Speaker 2>It's never worked before, it's not gonna work today, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not something that people have permissioned to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Anna herself dresses in a uniform. Yeah, has maintained a

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<v Speaker 2>very specific way of being. I'm sure you don't get

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<v Speaker 2>up like that with a fresh bob Manolo Blanix and

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<v Speaker 2>a shift dress every day. You've chosen a very specific aesthetic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's giving Lord, fuck wad not just.

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<v Speaker 2>Kidding, no no, no, no no no. But in this instance,

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<v Speaker 2>I do agree, however, with the idea that you can

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<v Speaker 2>tell and people are putting on an aesthetic right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It'd be surprising. I get a lot of hate on

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<v Speaker 2>the internet right but the way people can call me

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<v Speaker 2>out for outfit repeating, I'm so surprised by babes, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>aware this fit again and again and again and again

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<v Speaker 2>people actually do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you love that jacket? Flex?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you love that? Yeah, babe, I bought it. It

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<v Speaker 2>looks what I'm gonna keep wearing it. I'mlike, miss, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to Europe in six weeks. Help me get a

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<v Speaker 2>new wardrobe.

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<v Speaker 1>Please to me. Just think guys, oh never free me

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<v Speaker 1>flex and Frims on Keida. It's flex and frims on

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<v Speaker 1>kit FLEXI. I've been reading a book called Stolen Focus.

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<v Speaker 1>It was given to us by a manager, and I

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<v Speaker 1>do have a tendency to play on my phone in meetings,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was a targeted at the time. However, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>reading the book and I'm quite enjoying it. It's by

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<v Speaker 1>a man called Johann Hari. He is a British British,

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<v Speaker 1>a British Swiss writer. And you know what, I was

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<v Speaker 1>meant to bring the book in to read a passage today.

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<v Speaker 1>My focus was stolen because I had been making tariarchy

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<v Speaker 1>be if I had a lot of taboy to bring in. Okay, Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading a passage. It really gripped me. The

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<v Speaker 1>other day he spoke about a concept called the message

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<v Speaker 1>is the medium. This was coined by a philosopher society

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who in the nineteen sixties, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>it told us about how the way that you receive

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<v Speaker 1>a message is the message in and of itself. So

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<v Speaker 1>take for example, television. Yes, you receive things on the

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<v Speaker 1>television and you see it in the television mode, right, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>This also applies to writing. If you read something on

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<v Speaker 1>the internet, it's a very different experience to reading something

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<v Speaker 1>in a book, and the way you read it changes.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you read on the internet, you skim. When

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<v Speaker 1>you read in a book where you have to be

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<v Speaker 1>plugged in, you skim read books too. Yeah, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>because you've spent too much time reading the internet and

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<v Speaker 1>I read first. Okay, you don't know me, mates, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a protient.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm no brit To be fair, I was a fast

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<v Speaker 2>reader turned skim reader.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not retaining any information at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Says you from googles. How to pronounce Yohann hurry, Yohann hurry,

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<v Speaker 2>Yohan hurry comes on air, Yohan har.

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<v Speaker 1>Any information I told you I never remember? Saying I

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<v Speaker 1>never remember them? It makes me look bad anyway. The

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<v Speaker 1>point of this is, this is why he has beef.

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<v Speaker 1>Dare I say with social media? He's not he's not

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<v Speaker 1>a massive fan of social media, and he discusses how

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<v Speaker 1>things like Instagram and TikTok.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, I'm not retaining any information.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only are you reading the book called Focus, you've

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<v Speaker 2>forgotten to bring the book because your focus was stolen

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<v Speaker 2>and not even trying to conjure up any information.

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<v Speaker 4>About the book.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got beef with the internet.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not going to watch this because he's not on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't read the book. I'm enjoying it. Just

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<v Speaker 1>an anything the book.

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<v Speaker 2>Please.

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