1 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: I meant to ask you if you could pick your 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: favorite car of the year you're born. 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: Yes, Oh that's a good idea. Yes, are you just 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: typing in. 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Nineteen forty two? You could probably do that? That Mercedes 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: at Hitler Drow during the war. 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 2: That is funny. 8 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: Shit, what what do you got? I don't know. 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: I've literally just typed in nineteen eighty seven, hold in 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 2: Commodore because that's probably what it's gonna be. Really, No, 11 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 2: I know what it is now. It's the F forty Ferrari. 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: Oh that's an easy owner. 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's nineteen eighty seven, which was my year 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: of birth. So yeah, that's that's me. That would actually 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 2: suit me just nicely. 16 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm having a log. What was yours? 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: Like the horse and cart? 18 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: All right, mate, crack in the little jokes like go tod, 19 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: this's great joke on the podcast Halls and Cart. Can 20 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: I deliver it again? I was thinking the Bentley Mulsane Turbo. 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it's the one. It's got to be 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: the one with the dual headlight. It's not the big 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: square ones because they look shitty. Yep, they do kind 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: of look cool in a way, like eighties cool, like 25 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: Jack Thompson smoking on the bonnet call. But I reckon there. 26 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: They were James bonded as well, I think, oh from memory. Yeah, 27 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: I'm just having a look now. So it says Bond 28 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: purchases a Mulsan turbo in John Gardener's eighty four James 29 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 2: Bond novel Role of Honor. 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: Okay, now I've fallen asleep. 31 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know the interesting thing with with those cars, 32 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: and that one in particular, the Bentley actually had a 33 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: Rolls Royce engine, and Rolls Royce goes to so much 34 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 2: effort with their engine sizes that it was a six 35 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: point seven five liter V eight. How precise is that? 36 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, my grandma used to be like head 37 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: inspector of during the war, like they used to put 38 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: them in aeroplanes and stuff. She used to going over 39 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: people's work. You might have known her, like you probably 40 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: worked with her back in the day. Do you know what? 41 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: I realized we haven't even done an intro yet. And 42 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,119 Speaker 1: last week I kind of give you the big sort 43 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,639 Speaker 1: of hey guys, it's Paul from car Expert dot com 44 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: dot you, and then I just get I just mentioned 45 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: my own name, and then we move on and you 46 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: just make some terrible remarks. I go home and cry 47 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: to my wife. 48 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, it's Gordy from the radio station. That's it. 49 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: Hi, my name's Paul from Car Expert. I've also signed 50 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: with Channel seven. Actually, you know what, I've signed my 51 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: own deal. It's with SBS. And I can't tell you this, 52 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: but I've signed to SBS. And it's a car show, obviously, 53 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: and it's me and leland Chin in the back of 54 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: various cars and we just make out for twenty minutes, 55 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: and then she finally looks out the window and says, 56 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: I wish I went electric. And I'm like, you're talking 57 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: about the car, right, and she just pauses for a 58 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: long while and goes, no, I we got to talk 59 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: about some cars that have been released straight up direct 60 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: from the LA Auto Show. The Porsche RS or the 61 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: Porsche Cayman RS. 62 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: Yes, the GT four RS. I mean they revealed the 63 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 2: GT four version of the Cayman, which existed in the 64 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: previous Cayman. But now the seven one eight is bringing 65 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 2: I think it's the world's worst kept secret, but an 66 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: RS version of the GT four and. 67 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: The thing that blows me away. 68 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: They kind of always said that the four leter wouldn't 69 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 2: fit into their and it's it's kind of familiar with 70 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: things like the nine to eleven GT three cup car 71 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: and the series production nine to eleven GT three, which 72 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: means three hundred and sixty eight kilowatts of power and 73 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty meters of talk like it is 74 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: just genuinely insanity in a car that weighs what fourteen 75 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 2: hundred kilos and it looks, it looks so menacing. 76 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: So good. They've literally put a nine to eleven engine 77 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: in this right, yeah. 78 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 2: I mean it's the four liter effectively out of the 79 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: GT three, so it's very similar. And this is I 80 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: guess this is what you'd call a mid engine car 81 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: because it doesn't actually have an engine in the back 82 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 2: like a nine to eleven does. So it is quite 83 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 2: a complex machine in terms of the way they've got 84 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: it set up. And it's up almost sixty kilowats and 85 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: twenty new meters over the standard GT four and I 86 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: think the best bit is at revs to nine thousand rpm, 87 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: which is just amazing. 88 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: See Porscha purists will hate me saying this, but everyone 89 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: was like, there's no way a Cayman will ever be 90 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: a nine to eleven, especially like a nine eleven GT three, 91 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: But we've found that contender. I mean, it's essentially the 92 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: same one. I'm a big fan of the Cayman's. I've 93 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: always been called the poor man's Porsche. I just think, 94 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got effectively you've got you've got this 95 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: mid engine car, and it's superior to a nine to eleven. 96 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if we're honest with ourselves, aside from 97 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 2: it not having four seats, you've got a car here 98 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: that I think, with the right driver would probably outperform 99 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 2: pretty much every nine to eleven that isn't like a 100 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 2: proper GT three or a GT three R rare. And 101 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 2: you can see that Porsche has put a lot of 102 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 2: effort into this. It's not just a car for the 103 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 2: sake of being a car. They've cut thirty five kilos 104 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: out of this compared to a non RSGT four, and 105 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: a non RSGT four was still a light and fast car. 106 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: So extensive use of carbon. I think it just looks 107 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: absolutely awesome and I just can't wait for it to 108 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 2: get here. But I don't know if you've seen the price. 109 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:26,559 Speaker 2: Have you seen the price? 110 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: No, I'm trying to look for that now. 111 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: No, let me tell you. So basically, the Cayman starts 112 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 2: at somewhere around the one hundred and something thousand dollar mark. 113 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: The GT four is two hundred and eleven thousand dollars. 114 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 2: How much do you reckon this is? 115 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to say uploads of about four fitty. 116 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 2: Oh, this is three hundred, three hundred thousand, three hundred 117 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 2: thousand and eight hundred dollars. It's a big step up 118 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 2: because it's what ninety thousand dollars more than a GT four, 119 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: So that is a whole heap of cash, and that's 120 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: before on road costs. It could even be four fifty 121 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: by the time you add luxury car tacks and the 122 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: other stuff they indecently take out of our pockets whenever 123 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 2: we want to get something nice in this country. 124 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: I think I still think it's a better deal than say, 125 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: looking at a fairly top spec nine to eleven. 126 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean a Carera S is probably around 127 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: that three hundred thousand dollar mark, So you know, it 128 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: is good value for money in that sense. And yeah, 129 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: it just looks awesome. So what are your thoughts on this? 130 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: Though it's only available with the PDK no manual transmission. 131 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: Really, that's weird. 132 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 2: Is that not manual? 133 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: Manual? 134 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 2: I know, it looks like a manual, and then you 135 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 2: assume in, Yeah, zoom in on the pedals and you'll 136 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: see it's missing a pedal. So because you're listening to 137 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 2: this and not watching it, that was Gordy showing me 138 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: a picture. 139 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: Of GC four US. 140 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: So I'm like, maybe we should explain what you were 141 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: just doing. Yeah, yeah, it's deceiving because it looks like 142 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: a manual. But yeah, it's just got two pedals. 143 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 1: So wow. I mean it's becoming more and more commonplace though, 144 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: isn't it. 145 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely so. I mean to put the times 146 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 2: into context, it was able to lap the Nurburg Ring, 147 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: the twenty point eight kilometer circuit in seven minutes and 148 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 2: nine seconds. They also did a slightly shorter version of 149 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: the circuit which takes two different measuring points, and that 150 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: was seven minutes four So it's about twenty three seconds 151 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: quicker than a standard GT four around the nurburg Rings, 152 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: so bloody quick. 153 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me tell you that that is a proper 154 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: race car right there. Yeah, I'm kind of jealous. I 155 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: got to see the what is it? The RAMTRX did 156 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: you been driving the fifteen hundred. Yes, yes, massive car. 157 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: I think we briefly talked about it last week. But giz, 158 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: you looked like a real country boy in this thing. 159 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: You really look like you're enjoying that. 160 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: I am an absolute bogan. I didn't enjoy filling it 161 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: because it has like a one hundred and twenty five 162 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: liter tank and I used half the tank and I thought, 163 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 2: I'll just go fill it up. And I was filling 164 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 2: it and I thought, has this got like a giant 165 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: hole in it that I'm not aware of? Because I 166 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: got to about the sixty meter mark of fuel and 167 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: it's still going And I'm like, okay, at two dollars 168 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: a leter plus, this is going to really set me 169 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: back something. But I just want to put this car 170 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: into context. So the RAM fifteen hundred is is what 171 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 2: they call a mid sized truck in the States, and 172 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: mid size is kind of funny because it's absolutely it's 173 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: fucking enormous to something like a Ranger. 174 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: You could fit in that tray. To give us an idea, 175 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: what sort of car do you reckon you could fit 176 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: in that tray? 177 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: I think you, I genuinely think you could fit a 178 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: smart Car in the tray. 179 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, I reckon you can fit a Zuki 180 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: Swift yet like it is, it is huge. 181 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: To put the size into context, it's about six meters long, 182 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: it's two point two meters wide mainly due to the mirrors, 183 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: and six meters long makes it almost a meter long 184 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: than a Ford Ranger, longer than a Hord Ranger in 185 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: terms of heights. It's too big to fit into most 186 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: underground car parks, so I wasn't able to leave it 187 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: at home because I couldn't get it into our car park. 188 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 2: But the most impressive part is the engine. So it's 189 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: powered by a Hellcat V eight and for those who 190 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 2: don't know what that is, it's basically the six point 191 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: two Leader Supercharge V eight that they use in things 192 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: like the Charger and the Challenger, and it just it 193 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 2: shouldn't exist because that engine is absolutely monstrous. We're talking, 194 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: you know, enough to do zero to one hundred and 195 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: nunder five seconds and it weighs like two point six tons, 196 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 2: so it is an absolute beast, and the sound is 197 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: next level. The supercharger wine is incredible. It is just yeah, 198 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 2: it does not put a foot wrong. 199 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this car in a big way. 200 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: It's exciting that they've done this. What's your thoughts on 201 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: the interior, because I'm going to throw something at you, 202 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: And I did see the interior in this, and I 203 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: think it actually, despite what I'm about to say, it 204 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: looks pretty good. American cars, especially ones with attitude, say 205 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: muscle cars make shit interior. 206 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: Yes, see, generally that's true. The interior in this I 207 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: think was pretty goo. The reason I say that is 208 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 2: the big trucks have like giant glove boxes. They're very spacious. 209 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: They've got this huge vertical screen inside it. There's like 210 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: a TRX button, so you press that if you want 211 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: it to do stupid things. And they also brand everything. 212 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: So there's a wireless phone charger, and in any other 213 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: car it would just be a wireless phone charger, but 214 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: in this it's called a RAM charger, and I'm like, yeah, 215 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: I just want to put my mate. Yeah. And in 216 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: terms of the engine, five hundred and twenty three kills 217 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty two meters, but yeah, look I 218 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: like the interior, but are you gonna tell me you 219 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 2: don't look? 220 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: I don't mind it in this, I don't mind it. Actually, 221 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty cool from memory when you're sitting 222 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: in it, it legit looks like a laundroom. 223 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: Yes, it is exactly that. 224 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: It's massive, yeap. And the branding just over the center 225 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: console there, just on the arm rest there, that's that's cool. 226 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. They've got like a little build plate that tells 227 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 2: you the VIN number the engine, so it tells you 228 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: the supercharger size, the amount of horsepower that it makes. 229 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: The thing I love the most though, the little plaque 230 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: says something like designed in wherever It's designed Michigan, except 231 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: they forget to mention it's actually built in Mexico. So 232 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: this big ass American truck is built in Mexico, which 233 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: is kind of just a bit funny, but yeah, look 234 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: at I think the big deal with this is they're 235 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: not built in right hand drive, so when they come 236 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 2: to Australia these have to be converted to right hand drive. 237 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 2: And the company that does this is based out of 238 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: Queensland and it's called oz MV, so Australian manufactured Vehicles. 239 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: Thing. 240 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: The big thing about it though, is they've just announced 241 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: to deal with my car, which is the old Kmart 242 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 2: Tyron auto service name. Yeah, so you can get this 243 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 2: thing serviced across the country. How much do you think 244 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: this costs? By the way, so the price is about 245 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 2: seventy thousand US dollars in the States. 246 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: Just a quick one. Don't you find it hilarious that 247 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: you can take this big ass Ram into what used 248 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: to be came out tired auto for a service? Yeah? Exactly. 249 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: Can you imagine that when you were driving along? I 250 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: got to ask and you're looking at, say, some dude 251 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: in a you know, a gim Bean button up shirt 252 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: and a Monster Energy flat cap and he's in his 253 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: Ford raptor were you listening to a bit. 254 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 2: Of this is Paul just cruising around? 255 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 3: Oh? 256 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: My god, warm summer's even Yeah, bounce, I've got a 257 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: met up with We were craving asleep with my sister, 258 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: so we to turn staring. I feel strangely racist right 259 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: now too. The boredom aver Turco and he began to 260 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: speak and then he just spat out some tobacco tobacco juice. 261 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, So look, I think I think the 262 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: Ram TRX fifteen hundred is incredible. I think it's an 263 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: important car. 264 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: Well, how much is it till me? 265 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: Oh, I'm going to say around about one seventy five. 266 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: Okay, so depending on which one you get. They had 267 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: one car there which was the launch edition. When I 268 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: went to pick this up sticker to ninety. Yeah, it's insane, 269 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 2: isn't it. So I'll put that into context as well. 270 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 2: So basically when they buy these, they buy them from 271 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: dealers in the States and over there because of the 272 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: chip shortage, there's a huge demand for cars. Dealers are 273 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: allowed to list cars for whatever they want over there, 274 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 2: and they're all charging around twenty to thirty thousand US 275 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: dollars above sticker price. So they buy it, They pay 276 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 2: GST and import tariffs when it comes to Australia, plus 277 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: luxury car tax I think is applicable to these as well. 278 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: They then convert it. Then when they sell it, you 279 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: have to pay luxury car tax and all the other 280 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: bullshit on it as well. So the government is double 281 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 2: dipping on these, and the end cost is mainly all 282 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 2: just fees that you're giving to the government for no 283 00:13:58,760 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 2: good reason. 284 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: Going to buy this. This is going to be bought 285 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: by the property developer, right the trade who's not really 286 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: a trading anymore, is doing pretty well for himself or 287 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: the CEO who wants to appeal to the common man, 288 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: or Paul driving around giving it a bit of I 289 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: could do that all day long. 290 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: I know you could. 291 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: I could just see you in the cubra. Excuse me, 292 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: does anyone know the quickest way to Daniliguan? You got? 293 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: We should finish the show with that. I love that. 294 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: I'd actually I'll tell you what if if you have 295 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: bought one of these, or you know someone that has, 296 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: please send us an email to contact at the driveshow 297 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: dot com toda you, because I want to know who 298 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: is buying these, because genuinely I would love to own one, 299 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: because it is so offensive and I really did enjoy 300 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: pulling up next to people in like Rangers that were 301 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: lifted and with their two leader Diesel engines. This thing 302 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: just takes that that the measuring game up to just 303 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: a very unique level. 304 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: A compensate. 305 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: You don't want to be at the urinal next to 306 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: one of. 307 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: These, Yeah, it's it is a car that just stands out. 308 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: Could you live with it as a daily No? 309 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: Because it's impossible to park anywhere. So yeah, unfortunately not 310 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 2: in all reality. If you don't go for the stupid 311 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 2: t Rex, you can get just a RAM fifteen hundred, 312 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: they have like a four and a half ton break 313 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: towing capacity. Even if you tow three and a half 314 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: tons with just a standard TOBAL, you will not notice 315 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: a caravan on the back of it, whereas toe three 316 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: and a half tons with a two letter forward ranger 317 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: and you will know that there's a three and a 318 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: half ton caravan on the back. So that is what 319 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: people are using them for, generally for towing and just 320 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 2: for country driving. For a country drive, they're actually pretty 321 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: efficient for naturally aspirated V eight. The tower Rex is 322 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 2: just never efficient, but the standard RAM fifteen hundred ACTS 323 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: is actually sort of half decent. 324 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: It's the end of the world car the car actually 325 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: it's the car you jump in when lock down four happens. 326 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 2: And you want to drive to Tasmania, like across the water. 327 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: He interesting one pick story this week with the government 328 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: and now seeing funding for the electric car market. One 329 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: thing I wanted to ask you, and this is what 330 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: I reckon a lot of consumers would ask when it 331 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: comes to electric cars, right is how far does it 332 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: take me? And how can I charge it? And is 333 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: this about to get easier? Because I feel like we're 334 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: going to talk Ionic five in a moment. And one 335 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: of the big turn offs I found with people asking 336 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: questions about it and stuff like that is, Oh, we're 337 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: just not set up. We're not set up yet for 338 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: the electric We don't know, you know, people are afraid, 339 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: they don't know where to charge it and whatnot. Are 340 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: we near the point where where we can finally have 341 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: electric cars in commonplace? 342 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, that question that people ask, it's a bit 343 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: of a it's a bit of a silly question because ultimately, 344 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: when you own an EV, you don't really think about 345 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: that stuff as much. And I can understand people apprehensive 346 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: before going into an EV. But I own a Tesla 347 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 2: and do you Yes, it's a Model three performance. 348 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: Is Avatasla with the crazy zero to one hundred times. 349 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: It's quick, but it's not that quick. 350 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: I feel like that's not the only time you've said 351 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: that sense. 352 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: No, definitely not so. Yeah. The government has come out 353 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: and said that it's tipping in two hundred and fifty 354 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 2: million dollars into a future Fuels and Vehicle strategy, of 355 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 2: which one hundred and seventy eight million is ear mark 356 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: to support rollout of infrastructure. It reckons it will make 357 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: twenty six hundred jobs over three years while it's doing this, 358 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: and it thinks that by twenty thirty thirty percent of 359 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: new car sales will be battery, electrical, plug in hybrid 360 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: or hydrogen. So they want to add fifty thousand charging 361 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 2: stations in homes across Australia and also roll out public 362 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 2: charging infrastructure. It is ambitious and I think it's great, 363 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: but it depends on the charges they're rolling out, So 364 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 2: you've got it's a bit hard to explain because if 365 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 2: you fill your car with petrol, it's basically the same 366 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 2: give or take wherever you go. When you put the 367 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: thing in, squeeze the trigger, you know that it'll be 368 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: fall in about sort of five minutes. Well, with evs 369 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: you've got different charge rates, so you can have a 370 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 2: ten out plug which is just like a socket at home, 371 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 2: and that will take around twenty four hours to charge 372 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 2: a car from empty, or you can go all the 373 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 2: way to a supercharger that charges within twenty minutes. So 374 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: they haven't specified exactly what they're rolling out, where they're 375 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 2: rolling it out, and which cars it will support, so 376 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 2: you know, typical government, it is all very sort of 377 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 2: flaky and very vague as well, which I just don't love. 378 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: I feel like it's also being said for the sake 379 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: of saying it, because at the moment that is the 380 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: sort of subject that is popular at to tackle. Yep, 381 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: and yeah, you're right with the superchargers. I mean people, 382 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: I think generally people want to know, like's if it's 383 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: a twenty minute job that can sort of fit into 384 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: their lifestyle. My opinion on electric cars since since driving 385 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: one has changed, I think that people well, eventually it's 386 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 1: just different ways of doing familiar things, and I think 387 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: people's lifestyle will change around that. 388 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. Once you own one, 389 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 2: you'll realize that you really never really panic about stuff. 390 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 2: You plan ahead, You charge if you need to. But 391 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: even living in an apartment, we've got the charging setup 392 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: and it's fine. I mean, the government's saying here that 393 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 2: it will roll out fifty thousand household charges and a 394 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: thousand public fast charging stations, and they reckon it'll cover 395 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 2: eighty four percent of the population. So that's going to 396 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 2: be enough for city folks. But if you are traveling 397 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 2: into the country or you do a lot of country driving, 398 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 2: it's something that I think we're still not there yet 399 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: in terms of range. There are cars coming, and I 400 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 2: think by twenty thirty will well and truly have cars 401 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: that will get us the long range that some of 402 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: these people want, and also trucking and stuff like that. 403 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 2: So I don't know, let's see where it takes us. 404 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: But I'm not going to hold my breath because knowing 405 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 2: the government. You know, the thing that kind of annoys 406 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: me with any government is that when they commit to 407 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 2: a project like this, if the next government comes in 408 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: and says, nah, it's shit, we're going to roll it back, 409 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 2: you end up with a turd of a project. And 410 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 2: I think that happened with NBN, where it was going 411 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 2: to be fiber to the home, then all of a 412 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: sudden it was fiber to like halfway to the home, 413 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 2: and you've ended up with this colossal shit storm of 414 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: an Internet network in Australia that could have actually been good. 415 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: I think going forward though, in terms of saying something 416 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: like apartment blocks, I know that supercharging stations are becoming 417 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: will be a lot more commonplace in those. 418 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, and that's why we're setting up. I'm the 419 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: chair of our Owner's Committee and at our apartment building, 420 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 2: and we're setting it up in such a way that 421 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: if an owner invests in ev charging, it will increase 422 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,719 Speaker 2: the value of their property. The only downside to shared 423 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 2: spaces is you probably do what I do when I 424 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: get home. If you park the car and a visitor park, 425 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: you're like, ah, I can't be bothered going back down 426 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: to move it. 427 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: That's not what I do when I get home. 428 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: But that's right, that's what I do. 429 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: So there is a photo of you next to my bed, 430 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: and I do crank up a bit of Shineada Connor. 431 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: Nothing compares to you. 432 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 2: Anyway, but yeah, I think that look. Eventually, we'll see 433 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: how it pans out. But yeah, we've got to do 434 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 2: something because doing nothing really isn't working. 435 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: People would be seeing a very sexy electric all over 436 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: social media, the Rivian, which is an electric U. It 437 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: looks beautiful, it's got these kind of crazy headlights. Basically, 438 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: those cars that they're looking at are not real cars. 439 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: They're pre production cars by the looks of it being 440 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: given to influencers. But yeah, this is a strange company 441 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: and they're making some strange moves. 442 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 2: It's just insane. So they floated on the stock market 443 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: at I think seventy dollars a share. Right now, at 444 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: the time of reading this, they're at one hundred and 445 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 2: seventy two dollars a share, so they've almost tripled market 446 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: cap of one hundred and fifty billion dollars. This is 447 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 2: a company that has barely delivered any cars at all. 448 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: I absolutely love them. I think they look fantastic. And 449 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: I'm going to put that into context. One hundred and 450 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: fifty billion dollars is worth eighty five billion, and Ford 451 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: is worth seventy seven billion. So this company that's delivered 452 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 2: virtually nothing is now worth double or triple that. The 453 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: other thing that's really fascinating as well, Amazon owns a 454 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 2: big chunk of the company, and so does Ford. And 455 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 2: also further to that, Tesla is worth around one trillion dollars. 456 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 1: Hey, we should talk Ionic five. What do you reckon? Yes, 457 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: let's do it. 458 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 3: The twenty twenty two Yunday Ionic five Yunday's Bold Cutting 459 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 3: Edge EV price to start from seventy one nine hundred 460 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 3: dollars for the two wheel drive or for the one 461 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: we reviewed at seventy five nine hundred dollars for the 462 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 3: top spec all wheel drive. 463 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: So I got about two weeks with this car. 464 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you like him? 465 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I think Yon Day have got it 466 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: almost perfect with this car. You could say this car 467 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: is almost brilliant. The only problem is how it drives. 468 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: Let me explain everything about this car. I actually genuinely 469 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: love right, there's no doubt. There is no doubt when 470 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: you're standing in front of it. It just stands out. 471 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: It looks, It looks crazy cool. Everything from the wheels 472 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 1: look great. I love it how it's they're almost flushed 473 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: with the tire and it's sort of machine yet it's 474 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: got the kind of you know, that sort of spiralized 475 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: look about them, sort of divity things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 476 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: divity things. I'm pretty sure that's what was on the 477 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: pressure as it's in the pressure. I think they're really cool. 478 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: I think the headlights at the front, the square kind 479 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 1: of tron esque style headlights look really cool. Same at 480 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: the back as well, they almost look pixelated. The shape 481 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: of it's great. The interior you can tell that Juan 482 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 1: Day has spent a lot of time thinking about this, 483 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: and I think they've really tried to craft something kind 484 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: of different, and it's this beautiful balance of different but 485 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: not trying to scare people too much. It's really cool. 486 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: It's really minimalist. It's cool with that. It's got that 487 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: center console that you can move up and down. I've 488 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: never seen that in the car before. It's got the 489 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: glove draw. 490 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: The little sort of box type thing. Yep. 491 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. One thing I didn't like is the drive park 492 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: reverse things. The stalk is on the right hand side 493 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: behind the wheel. The first couple of days I'm like, ah, 494 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: I'll just get used to that. That's that's fine, And 495 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: after a couple of weeks I sort of did, but 496 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: it's still that to me was just. 497 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: A bit much. 498 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: A bit Yeah, it was just a bit. But then 499 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: I was thinking, I was like, well, if they were 500 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: to move it back in the middle, then you wouldn't 501 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: have that really cool center console, which, to be honest, 502 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: I think that's more it's a little gimmicky. I think 503 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: it's cool, but the fact that the whole thing moves, 504 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: you could have just done that with the arm rest. 505 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: I think the whole concept is that you can get 506 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 2: out of the left hand side of the car because 507 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 2: you know when you're because it's all flat and it 508 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: makes it Yeah, you could just slide it out of 509 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 2: the way and then you just walk through. Basically, that 510 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 2: was the whole sort of reasoning behind it. 511 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: Why I'd know. 512 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 2: There are a couple of occasions where I've had to 513 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 2: sneak out the other side, but that's. 514 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: Usually because you're involved with a lady of the night. 515 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: You're with like Honey Brown. She was a good bloke. Actually, 516 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: I've got to meet her. We had beers afterwards. The 517 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: other thing they say. 518 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 2: Is you could put bags down there, and what I 519 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: thought was, well, yeah, you can put bags down there, 520 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 2: but when you go around a corner, the bag slides 521 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 2: under your legs and makes it hard to drive the car, 522 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 2: So I wouldn't put bags down there. Hold on, let's 523 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: give people some context here, right, So the Ionic five 524 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 2: is basically a car that was produced on a unique platform, 525 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: a unique EV platform. The previous evs N day had, 526 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: like the Kner and other ironic we're all shared with 527 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 2: internal combustion cars, whereas this one was on an EV 528 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: platform only in terms of size, it looks like a hatchback, 529 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 2: but it's actually quite big, and it's bigger than a 530 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 2: Tesla Model three. The wheelbase is longer than a palisade 531 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: and The Palisade is their big seven seater. It's priced 532 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 2: from just over seventy thousand dollars before on road costs, 533 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: so more expensive than an entry level Tesla Model three. 534 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: And in terms of the models, there's only two in Australia. 535 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 2: There's a two will drive and an all will drive, 536 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 2: and both of them are loaded with kits, so they 537 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: all come with all the bells and whistles. 538 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: And I think the fact that it's got such a 539 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: big drive platform is probably for me. It's probably their downfall. Like, look, 540 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: I did enjoy driving it very much, but it's not 541 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: the sort of car that you can kind of weave 542 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: in and out of busy Sydney traffic. For instance. It's 543 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: got like for a big car, at five twenty seven 544 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: roughly leaders in the boot, I kind of thought maybe 545 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: there could have been more. 546 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, the boot's really weird because, like I now with 547 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 2: a kid, I just know all of the shit that 548 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 2: my wife packs. When we go like literally ten meters 549 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: down the road. 550 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: It's pop down and chatty, but that's pack Like we're 551 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: going to Tibet exactly. 552 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: For nine years, so I know how much of a 553 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 2: pram and all that shit takes up, and when I 554 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 2: put the PRAM and stuff in the Ionic five, I 555 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: was like, this packaging is really bad. Because the Tesla 556 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: has like forty or fifty centimeters of depth in the 557 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: boot beneath the floor that you can stash things. It's 558 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: got a front boot. The O wheel drive version of 559 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 2: the Ionic has a twenty seven liter front boot, so 560 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: you can literally fit a cable in there. The boot 561 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 2: is tiny, you know, for the space of the car. 562 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a little disappointed to that. Did you 563 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 2: try reclining the driver's seat or the passenger seat for 564 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 2: the fully reclined. 565 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I thought that was really cool. It's got 566 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: this I don't know what you call. I guess it's 567 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: got this feature where while you're charging the car, the 568 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: driver's seat can fully recline pretty much flat. 569 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 2: It's good in theory, and I think when we go 570 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 2: to autonomous cars it'll be great. But it is definitely 571 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 2: a gimmick at the moment. I like that it's something different, though, 572 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 2: you know, just for the sake of being different, but. 573 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: You are it could be this sort of car Cabby's Drive. 574 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: And this isn't even a joke, Lily, It could be 575 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: the sort of car or an uber driver would drive. 576 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: That's true, and they've got a bit of downtime, they 577 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: just take a bit of a chill. 578 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. And look in terms of the drive train, 579 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 2: this really sort of it's an interesting one because it 580 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 2: competes on a number level. So the all will drive 581 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: version will do zero to one hundred and five point 582 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,479 Speaker 2: two seconds, so it's pretty quick. It's not lightning, but 583 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 2: it is quick. It uses a seventy two kilo what 584 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 2: our battery. One of the things I absolutely loved about 585 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 2: it is it does a thing called a vehicle to load, 586 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: and what that means is you can plug an adapter 587 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 2: into the power socket and it lets you have a 588 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 2: three point six killer what power outlet rated at fifteen amps. 589 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I tested that on the side of the road 590 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: and I cooked a piece of toast. How cool was that? 591 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: I cooked future toast. Yeah, it's really cool. 592 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: And I think, you know, if you look at the 593 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 2: applications for that, you could go camping, run like a 594 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 2: camp kitchen, you could run a sound system, you could 595 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: do whatever you wanted. Really and I think innovations like 596 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,719 Speaker 2: that make evs really cool. But I found that it 597 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 2: wasn't overly efficient. It's a little different here in EVS 598 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: they measure efficiency and killer what hours per one hundred 599 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: kilometers compared to literas per one hundred kilometers in a 600 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 2: standard internal combustion car, and something like my Tesla, for example, 601 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: will do sixteen or seventeen killer what ours per one 602 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 2: hundred kilometers, And that is if I'm thrashing it. This 603 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 2: for me was averaging around the twenty killer what ours 604 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: per one hundred kilometer marks. So it is pretty thirsty 605 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 2: in the sense of it uses a lot of electricity 606 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 2: to move that mass around. 607 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: Trains the battery. You know what I found a little 608 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: weird was it's literally one of the most futuristic filling 609 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: cars in there yon day have it still doesn't have 610 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: wireless Apple car play. 611 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, man, that's what is going on? Does 612 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: my head? In? Hyundai offers wireless Apple car play on 613 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: entry level models and for some reason. 614 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: The cheaper model key does exactly the same thing. 615 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: The more you spend, the less you get. That stuff's annoying. 616 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 2: I think the key is silly as well. Why do 617 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 2: you need a key? Like, one of the things I 618 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 2: love about Tesla is you don't need a key the 619 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: new Volvo XC forty recharge, for example, or the Polestar. 620 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: To start the car, you just put your foot on 621 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 2: the brake and put it in drive. And it's like, 622 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: why do you need a button that says start? And 623 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: you know, it's like, okay, I'm in the car, my 624 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: foot's on the brake, of course I want to start it. 625 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, I see what you're saying. 626 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bit counterintuitive when it comes to that stuff. 627 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: I think keys will probably become fairly obsolete. Generally you 628 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: can do it with your phone, right, you can start 629 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: the car with your phone. 630 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So they don't have any of that remote 631 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 2: connectivity here in Australia, which I think is strange as well. 632 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: It is your most advanced car and I can't connect 633 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 2: to it with my phone. But look, in terms of charging, 634 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: it does up to three hundred and fifty kilowats of 635 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 2: DC fast charging. Currently it's capped to around two hundred 636 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: and thirty kilo wats, but that means a charge from 637 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,719 Speaker 2: ten to eighty percent at a rate of about seventeen minutes, 638 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 2: which is pretty good I reckon for that sort of charge. 639 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I think all up this is a great car. 640 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: I love it. I genuinely love it. It changed my 641 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: attitude a little bit, quite a lot actually to electric cars. 642 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: I would have one of these as a daily driver. 643 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: The fact that I don't, I thought to myself, I 644 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: need to change that, because it makes so much more 645 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: sense to have an electric car as a daily driver 646 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: and then have the fun, petrol guzzler, dirty Porsche on 647 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: the weekend. Yeah. 648 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm with you on that. And like, 649 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 2: this car has some pretty cool stuff in it, like 650 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: the they call it an E pedal. I think it's 651 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 2: called no I pedal. 652 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: So with the plus and minors. 653 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, but so you've got plus and minus on the 654 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: steering wheel, which allows you to change the region level. 655 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: But if you keep going back beyond the hardest region level, 656 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: it does what they do in the Nissan Leaf and 657 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: in the Tesla cars where it will allay you a 658 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 2: roll to a complete stop and it will then hold 659 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 2: the car so you don't need to use the brake. 660 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, actually that was said on this too. 661 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tuned perfectly. So it's tuned really well. And 662 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 2: when you said it didn't drive that well for me, 663 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: that extended to the ride Hyunda used to do all 664 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: of their right in handling tuning for Australian cars in Australia, 665 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: so you'd get the right feel behind the wheel. This 666 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: doesn't have that, and when we did our testing with it, 667 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 2: it just has no body control when you hit continuous 668 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 2: undulations and you'll find that sort of stuff on country roads. 669 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 2: It's fine in and around the city, it's really pleasant, 670 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 2: no dramas, but the second you go to a country 671 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: road and you cop those continuous undulations at highway speeds, 672 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: you're getting to the point where it feels uncomfortable and 673 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: doesn't feel nice to drive. 674 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: So spending time with an electric car really did make 675 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: me realize how much that we subconsciously rely on sound 676 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: and feel of a car. Talk is different compared to 677 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: a petrol car. It's sort of you don't feel that 678 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: kind of climbing, you don't feel the rev I kind 679 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: of miss that. I love that when I jumped back 680 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 1: in my old car. I got to be honest, but yeah, 681 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: it's strange when it's taken away, do you know what 682 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah? 683 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 2: Absolutely, It's one of those things that you do eventually 684 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: get used to, and they try and plumb fake sound 685 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 2: into the cabin. And they also have like a pedestrian 686 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 2: noise when you're near pedestrians. It is something you get 687 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 2: used to eventually, but it's something that's hard to I 688 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: think once it's not there'll you won't notice it's gone. 689 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: So you will notice it when you get back into 690 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 2: an older car. 691 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: Do you know what's crazy? Our kids are not going 692 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: to have art? 693 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, it. 694 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: Isn't that weird? Say would you have like a VK 695 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: commodore or something like that, All right, jump in. They'll 696 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: just look at that and go, God, this is like 697 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: a bloody puff and Billy Coltrane. 698 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 2: Is that's right? They'll actually think it's the dumbest thing 699 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 2: in the world that you had to put this combustible 700 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 2: material in it and wait for it to burn and 701 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: do stuff. You know what I mean? 702 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: Like you, it does make it an electric does make 703 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: a petrol car feel dumb, doesn't it? 704 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 2: Exactly? Just think about the moving parts. You've got so 705 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,479 Speaker 2: many moving parts and bearings that need lubrication, Like it 706 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 2: is just this insanely comple think it's needlessly complex, and 707 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 2: it's just so weird that that's just normal for us. 708 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: I can't explain it better. I just thought it was 709 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: really cool. Yeah, it's cool to look at, it is 710 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: cool to drive. For me, if I wanted to get 711 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 1: real picky, it is hard to kind of like. It's 712 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: not the sort of car you can dart around in 713 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 1: busy traffic. It's just not. And that's just the fact 714 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,799 Speaker 1: that it's so big in a platform yet it just 715 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: doesn't feel big. 716 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that, And for me, I 717 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 2: was just disappointed by the ride and that for me, 718 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to buy one based on the ride. 719 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 2: The good news, though, is Kia has their version of 720 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 2: this car come called the EV six, that will have 721 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 2: Australian ride in handling tuning, and I'm hoping that is 722 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 2: just what the Ionic five is missing. 723 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: I think that's it. Have we missed anything? No, that's it. 724 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: That's it. So now this is our wrap up section. 725 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 2: Yes, way we box it up? Well? 726 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: Can we? 727 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 2: Just if you're listening to this right now, send us 728 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 2: an email to contact the Drive Show dot com dat 729 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 2: you let us know what you think of it. What 730 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 2: do you want us to add? What he want us 731 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 2: to remove? He's not allowed to say either Gordy or right. 732 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,919 Speaker 1: I got a bit of feedback. Yeah about one where 733 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: I described your the inside of your tesla as it 734 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: looks like where I go to get my vds, my 735 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: my STDs checked. Someone's gone. But I quite like that. 736 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: But what's the deal. I don't want to know where 737 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: he gets the sdds checked? Yes, you do. You do 738 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: need to know, because your mum gave them to me. 739 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 1: Your mom gave me those STDs, and your dad gave 740 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: me a few as well. But look, we can't talk 741 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: about Jeffrey Epstein's island. I take constructive criticism really well. 742 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 2: Don't you think just noticed? 743 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 744 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so please send us an email, let us know 745 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 2: what you want to hear, or what you like or 746 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 2: don't like. We're always, yeah, keen for feedback. 747 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 1: You know one thing, I think the complaints will be 748 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 1: rolling and will be your primo shot. 749 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 2: Oh yes, why oh, you've got a bit of a 750 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 2: ten man, don't Yeah, I know that's back when I 751 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 2: was allowed to go outside a child that I had 752 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 2: to look after. 753 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I think he wrapped up 754 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: the ten filtered there a little bit. I think you 755 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: gave it a bit of far, a little nudge, a 756 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: little bit of something something give you the national GEOGRAPHICALOK, 757 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: that'd be great. What's that emailing in I don't even 758 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:21,319 Speaker 1: know 759 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 2: At contact at the Drive Show dot com, dot our 760 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 2: use