WEBVTT - Amy & Alice MASTERCHEF AUSTRALIA - Reality TV Contestants

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<v Speaker 1>This episode of the podcast, I'm joined by Amy and Alice,

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<v Speaker 1>both eliminated from Master Shehef Australia this week. Both different girls,

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<v Speaker 1>but fascinating to hear their different stories back to back.

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<v Speaker 1>Our first guest, Amy has been a big fan of

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<v Speaker 1>Master Chef Australia for years watching it with her mum.

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<v Speaker 1>She's been inspired by the journeys some of our favorite

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<v Speaker 1>home cooks and even attempted to recreate some of those

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<v Speaker 1>recipes at home. We did see Amy get booted on

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday Night, but as you will hear from our chat,

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<v Speaker 1>she's still laughing and it was great to hear about

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<v Speaker 1>her time on the show. Our next guest, Alice, was

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<v Speaker 1>our Tuesday Night Eliminee. Alice's parents immigrated from Shanghai. However,

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<v Speaker 1>Alice was born and raised in Sydney, where she felt

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<v Speaker 1>enriched by her duel heritage. Earning her bachelor's degree in

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<v Speaker 1>history and Economics from Harvard University. Alice went on to

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<v Speaker 1>earn her Master of Arts in East Asian Studies from Stanford.

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<v Speaker 1>You will hear about how food helped Alice bring her

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<v Speaker 1>head in her heart together, and I hope you stick

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<v Speaker 1>around after the first chat to hear about Alice's journey,

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<v Speaker 1>as she has some amazing insights on food. I will

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<v Speaker 1>ask the girls about their highs and lows and find

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<v Speaker 1>out how they ended up on Mastership Australia. Amy will

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<v Speaker 1>talk about her passion for fusion food and if there

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<v Speaker 1>was any other Japanese, Mexican ideas ready for that elimination

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<v Speaker 1>cook Alice will then explain what went down in her

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<v Speaker 1>final cook and office that's a theory that might not

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<v Speaker 1>have been her fault. Plus, we will get plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>exclusives from behind the scenes of MASTERSHEF Australia, which is

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<v Speaker 1>currently on Network ten and you can catch up on

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<v Speaker 1>ten Play if you've fallen a little bit behind anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's bring Amy into the podcast first and stick around

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<v Speaker 1>for Alis, who will be popping in.

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<v Speaker 2>Straight after that.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations, you know, on your time of MASTERSHEF Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Has this been an emotional ride for you?

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<v Speaker 3>It's been crazy. It's been a rollercoaster of emotions, you know, highs,

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<v Speaker 3>lows everything in between. It's been incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you all been there for each other? And do

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<v Speaker 1>other people, like your friends and family understand what it's

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<v Speaker 1>like to have been a part of something like this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess people don't really understand where you're going

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<v Speaker 3>through if they haven't been through the whole experience. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>lucky enough to have a really tight group of friends

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<v Speaker 3>from the show and we're still catch up regularly and

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<v Speaker 3>like talk all the time. So I'm really lucky in

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<v Speaker 3>that sense because we could do it yeah all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it was weird because the other contestants in previous years,

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<v Speaker 1>well the last few years where we had COVID, they

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<v Speaker 1>could up physically. But are you able to go and

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<v Speaker 1>catch up with you know, other Victorian content?

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you from? You're in Melbourn?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Melbourne?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, sorry, I had it written down that you're

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<v Speaker 1>in Melbourne. I'm like hanging a say, is my stalking accurate?

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<v Speaker 3>Correct?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Great?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you able to catch up with other Victorians?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And then you get to have like master Chief parties.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you've been doing for every episode?

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<v Speaker 3>Nah? A little bit, Like first couple of episodes are

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<v Speaker 3>really exciting. But you know, it's nice a debrief after

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<v Speaker 3>every episode because like, yeah again, like you've been through it,

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<v Speaker 3>but like watching it's kind of a different experience, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's good to get you watch it again, debrief

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<v Speaker 3>and onto the next one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always so surreal as well, because you know you

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<v Speaker 1>can live the experience and then to watch it back

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<v Speaker 1>it can be a different experience all over again. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>how have you felt watching yourself back on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what have that part of the experience been, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been good because I think when you're so like

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<v Speaker 3>stressed and anxious, like you kind of forget certain parts.

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<v Speaker 3>But looking back, you're just like, oh, that happened. That happens.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's good for my little brain to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>patck and see and also to watch other people's cooks

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<v Speaker 3>because you don't experience other people's cooks as well because

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<v Speaker 3>you're so focused on yourself. So it's good to see,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, everyone smashing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there something in particular that you're like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>that really shocked me watching it back, that you had

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<v Speaker 1>maybe didn't know about yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think everything's pretty true. I laugh a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>so that's like probably more than the average person, but

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<v Speaker 3>not everything was pretty accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, how did you come across the series? I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, I've confirmed that I'm a huge Master

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<v Speaker 1>Chef fan. I'm assuming you must have been as well.

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<v Speaker 1>How does something like this come about?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you just apply? Did someone see your cooking? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What was what was that journey to being on the show?

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<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, that like me and my mom have watched

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<v Speaker 3>Master Shecheff for as long as I could remember, so

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<v Speaker 3>it was kind of surreal, like going from like the

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<v Speaker 3>couch to the actual thing. And I've been a medical

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<v Speaker 3>administrator for ten years, so food and medical like don't

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<v Speaker 3>really go that much. But I used to it a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a backstory. So I used to bring in

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<v Speaker 3>like extravagant lunches all the time to work. And one

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<v Speaker 3>of the nurses was like, Amy, this is so like

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<v Speaker 3>you take half an hour to play it up your lunch.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like, go on mastership. She's like, just do it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, oh, maybe, like maybe, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>and then one day I just did it on a whim.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're telling me so first time applying, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've interviewed a lot of contestants and they some of

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<v Speaker 1>them applied, like you know, up to five times.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. For you, you've applied once and you got

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<v Speaker 2>straight in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's crazy, Like I've heard stories about that too,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, oh my god, the journey that they

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<v Speaker 3>would have gone on. I don't know if I could

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<v Speaker 3>do it five times.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, they're just not as good as you read it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fine, stop it.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt really lucky to have but on the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when the elimination day starts, do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any idea, you know, as that it might be you

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<v Speaker 1>going home? I mean, do you read into maybe other

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<v Speaker 1>favorites in the competition, or if the theme is more

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<v Speaker 1>suited to you more than maybe some of the others.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what was that day like for you? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you have any idea that it might be you going home?

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't, Like, I mean, you definite want to think

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<v Speaker 3>that you're going to be the one going home, But

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<v Speaker 3>it was it was very stressful, Like coming up to it,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, like two day cooks daunting in itself

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<v Speaker 3>and like not being there to supervise your food and

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<v Speaker 3>all that kind of stuff. So I was definitely stressed

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<v Speaker 3>going in. It was probably one of my most stressful cooks.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like, for myself, the only thing I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be good at doing on Mastership is probably cooking my

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<v Speaker 1>own goose, because I feel like the pressure for me

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<v Speaker 1>would really get to me. But I want to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you about the pressure of the experience. You know, is

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<v Speaker 1>it as dramatic and as stressful as it looks on

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<v Speaker 1>television or is it a little bit more calm in

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<v Speaker 1>real life?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, it's a hundred times more stressful than what TV, right,

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<v Speaker 3>so don't worry. Like it's a pressure cooker, like, definitely,

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<v Speaker 3>but in the best way possible. Like you kind of

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<v Speaker 3>you're so stressed that like you kind of tweak into

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<v Speaker 3>like creative like things in your brain. So it's good

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<v Speaker 3>in that aspect. But no, it's definitely a pressure cooker.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to think of myself as like a good cook,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I understand flavors and all of that,

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<v Speaker 1>but I also feel like i'd only cook my Aussie

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<v Speaker 1>standard meals, like you know, my spaghetti and my chicken

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<v Speaker 1>palma and all of these things which you know probably

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't cut it on a show like this, Are there

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<v Speaker 1>some ideas that are too basic? And do the producers

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<v Speaker 1>try and help you to lock in dishes that maybe

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<v Speaker 1>are a little bit more extraordinary for viewers to watch

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<v Speaker 1>you cook.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm with you, Like I love eating all

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<v Speaker 3>that stuff. I love cooking that stuff at home. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I think you just have to cook from your heart.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's the best advice that anyone can give.

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<v Speaker 3>Is just like if you try to be extravagant and

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<v Speaker 3>like try to change an original thing, it kind of

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<v Speaker 3>gets lost. But simple good things done right, you can't

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<v Speaker 3>beat it. And it's just like if you want to

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<v Speaker 3>cook a chicken palmera mass chef, do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that would be me what they would be.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, you need to go home now because everyone in

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<v Speaker 1>Australia made this tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>It is not inspirational at all. Please leave me.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's relatable, like my caramel dumplings, like the simplest

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<v Speaker 3>dish ever. But you know everyone can make it at home.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, if we talk about in my house going

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<v Speaker 1>out for dinner, we start with Japanese Mexican is like

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<v Speaker 1>our next one down the line. So the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>this fusion idea of yours to me was really quite epic.

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<v Speaker 1>Are the other dishes that you could have made with

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of Japanese Mexican fusion? Or is that your

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<v Speaker 1>one Japanese Mexican fusion?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted only I reckon nah like it was. It's

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<v Speaker 3>an epic dish and I think that you know, when

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<v Speaker 3>I cooked it at home, it was it was. It

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<v Speaker 3>was good to me. But maybe in the future I'll

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<v Speaker 3>kind of tap into that again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let you know I'm here for different flavor combinations,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to talk to you about this thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I do at home. So for my spaghetti bolin AI's,

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<v Speaker 1>I put in veggie mind and I put in a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of true with sabi, I know, and I

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<v Speaker 1>put enough with sabi in so that it is actually palatable,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's not just about the spice. I actually like

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of that with sabi flavor with the meat sauce.

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<v Speaker 1>Now is this disgusting or is this fusion? And should

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<v Speaker 1>I apply for master chef and try it out?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? Yes, and yes I'm going to try that at home.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never heard of anyone doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was more that there was just some stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>the fridge, and I was like, you know, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>making the spaghetti and you want to sit the meat

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<v Speaker 1>sauce there for a while, you kind of like that

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<v Speaker 1>idea of it, sort of you know, bubbling together and

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<v Speaker 1>having all those flavors come together. So you're often looking

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<v Speaker 1>around for spices, and I just randomly thought veggimie and

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<v Speaker 1>masabi would be good, and it is quite delicious.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm so into the I put vegimine in my spaghetti

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<v Speaker 3>bolonnaise too, so you're not alone on that one. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'll definitely put in how much would you put it?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to send this to you on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put this on Instagram for everyone that's listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this so they can see. But you can buy Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go, So you could buy this green tube

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<v Speaker 1>from Cole's or Bullies. We'll say Coals though, because they

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<v Speaker 1>sponsor Master Chef, so you can buy a little green tube.

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<v Speaker 2>I put half of that in. Oh half, it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm also.

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<v Speaker 1>People like, stop talking about yourself, stop talking about your

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<v Speaker 1>weird food, Ben, we don't really care. Right to me

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<v Speaker 1>on Instagram and let me know how it goes. Just

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<v Speaker 1>one of those green emoji faces. You are disgusting, Ben Norris.

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<v Speaker 3>Ever again if it works into it well.

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<v Speaker 1>The living conditions have been under attack last week because

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<v Speaker 1>some photos came out on Instagram of you know, what

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<v Speaker 1>it's like to be there behind the scenes and what

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<v Speaker 1>the accommodation was like. And I looked at those photos

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, this looks like adult summer camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Like to me, it actually looked like how I would imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't have expected that you'd be in some lavish

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<v Speaker 1>mansion while it was going on. What were your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>Did you read any of those comments about what people

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<v Speaker 1>were saying about the accommodation.

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<v Speaker 3>I have heard on the grainvine, but haven't read much.

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<v Speaker 3>That's actually the green room. It's not a living condition.

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<v Speaker 1>Candle It wrote that story. I mean, it's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>People have a look at one thing and then they

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<v Speaker 1>run with it. They're like these poor bastards, and it's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just the green room.

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<v Speaker 3>It's okay, just relax, it's just agreement's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It does bring me though to my favorite question to

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<v Speaker 1>ask people, and that is any show that any reality

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<v Speaker 1>TV contestants can be on, there's always things that are

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<v Speaker 1>written online. What are some of the most outrageous things

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<v Speaker 1>that you might I've read about yourself or about the

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<v Speaker 1>show whilst this, whilst being a part of.

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<v Speaker 3>It, I did actually read one and I think it

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<v Speaker 3>was hilarious. Someone said that I used laugh like my

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<v Speaker 3>laughter's punctuation, and I totally agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Just did it great.

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<v Speaker 3>I just did it full stop. That's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so fun I mean, I think it's a way.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's very infectious for you, so you've obviously

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<v Speaker 1>worked out that it works well in your repertoire, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep it, keep it going.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it, but yeah, is it a nervous thing though,

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<v Speaker 1>or do you think it's just a part of your

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<v Speaker 1>jovial nature.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just happy, Like I just I laugh and I'm nervous,

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<v Speaker 3>and that was probably mostly on the show, but I

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<v Speaker 3>just just laugh at everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's better to laugh when you get eliminated

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<v Speaker 1>from something. I feel like if I was eliminated from

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<v Speaker 1>a show, I'd be really worried that it'd have like

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<v Speaker 1>a tantrum. Is there any way that the producers try

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<v Speaker 1>to sort of maintain your emotional response, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you are eliminated. Is there anything that they say to you,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's you'll be okay, maybe we'll bring you back.

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<v Speaker 1>What do they do to try and make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you walk away smiling and laughing like you did? I mean, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't like after you get a lot of support after,

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<v Speaker 3>but during the shows it's like it's just you. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's your emotions as like what it really is. And

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<v Speaker 3>I guess you just have to in the moment, like

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<v Speaker 3>what I thought was I was like I was content,

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<v Speaker 3>like if I go home today, it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>But I wasn't going to cry until I turned around

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<v Speaker 3>and I saw Grace, my bestie, crying, and then that

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<v Speaker 3>set me off and I was like, don't make me cry,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I did. But that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>They say don't cry on reality TV because people don't

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<v Speaker 1>like it, but I disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>I disagree. I think that everyone should just be full emotion, definitely, And.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like if you're in a pressure cooker situation,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just like you. I think it's better to let

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<v Speaker 3>it all out as opposed to just like setting that

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<v Speaker 3>just like bottling it all up. So cry away, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, well, I was reading this is what made me cry,

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<v Speaker 1>was reading how previous winners had spent their money, their

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<v Speaker 1>prize money. Had you even allowed yourself to think that

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<v Speaker 1>far as to how you might have spent the money,

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<v Speaker 1>had you.

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<v Speaker 3>Want I honestly didn't think about the money at all,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I wasn't there for the money, Like I wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>there to win it. If I was to win it,

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<v Speaker 3>I would be like love that. I would be so proud.

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<v Speaker 3>But to even get on the show was a huge

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<v Speaker 3>accomplishment for me, and I guess I just took it

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<v Speaker 3>every week by week, another week, the other week, another week,

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<v Speaker 3>so I think that, yeah, money's not an issue for me,

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<v Speaker 3>So I didn't really think about it, just the experience.

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<v Speaker 1>Just there for the experience, which is just ad point.

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<v Speaker 1>There are also reports at the moment that the creators

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<v Speaker 1>of Master Chef, who created it, you know, all those

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, on the hunt to make another cooking series,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, after being a part of Master Chef, which

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<v Speaker 1>is just such a fun show. Have you walked away

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<v Speaker 1>with any ideas on what audiences might want from a

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<v Speaker 1>cooking show if it was to try and change in

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<v Speaker 1>a way and they were trying to look at something different.

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<v Speaker 3>Good question. Actually, I think solely just to cook from

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<v Speaker 3>the hut, and I think that like when people cook

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<v Speaker 3>from their backgrounds and what they love, it like it

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<v Speaker 3>shines on TV.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any dishes that you were saving? Is there

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<v Speaker 1>anything we've missed out on? I feel like there might

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<v Speaker 1>have been a dish that you'd been reserving for a

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<v Speaker 1>slam dunk. Is there anything that you feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>would love to have cooked for the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have loved to I had a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>a because I loved tinfish. So I wanted to present

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<v Speaker 3>my own tinfish to the judges and you know diy

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<v Speaker 3>ken and have that kind of all sealed. So I

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<v Speaker 3>was saving that one for a special special cook. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know that's fine. I can just cook it outside

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<v Speaker 3>of the Mass Chef kitchen.

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<v Speaker 2>Just create your own YouTube channel. Definitely, there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>We can cook along. We can cook along there. So

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<v Speaker 1>do you not what you know now? Because you may

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<v Speaker 1>know more. But like when you left the competition, did

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<v Speaker 1>you have a feeling about who could probably win this?

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was there a strong feeling as to who

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<v Speaker 1>you thought might take it out.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's anyone's competition. Everyone is such an amazing cook.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'd love Grace to win because she's my bestie.

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<v Speaker 3>She was my roommate, like we had such a great bond.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'd love for her to take it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Well, maybe she will, maybe she won't. We'll have

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<v Speaker 2>to keep watching.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone who joins the podcast asked this question, what is

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<v Speaker 1>something from behind the scenes, something that we wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>seen or we won't see, maybe kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>Master Chef secret from behind the scenes, probably.

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<v Speaker 3>Like my microwave dish, my caramel dumplings was iconic. Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I was at the microwave for a very long time

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<v Speaker 3>on that challenge, so probably like would have loved to

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<v Speaker 3>see a bit more microwave action, But that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they do they not want you to use microwaves

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<v Speaker 1>on the show?

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<v Speaker 3>No, microwaves are great, you wouldn't be there for good

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<v Speaker 3>use it.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember there was a fast food place though, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was always like, bacon, bacon will always tasted weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say the name of this fast

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<v Speaker 1>food place because then I'll get sued. But then it

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<v Speaker 1>turned out they were cooking their bacon in the microwave,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I don't think bacon belongs in

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<v Speaker 1>the microwave. That needs to be literally on a sizzle

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<v Speaker 1>pan or on the barbecue. And has this changed your

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<v Speaker 1>life in some way? Like do you think that you'll

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<v Speaker 1>open a restaurant? Like what are your ambitions with food

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward?

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm actually a chef now. I work at Biromantica.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a pizza chef there. I've got a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>pop ups on the horizon, So yeah, that'll be awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Like to be creative, because like you can be creative

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<v Speaker 3>in a restaurant, but like you can't be your fullest

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<v Speaker 3>creative self, so it would be good to get a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of dishes that I did get on the Master

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<v Speaker 3>Chef Kitchen, and I'm designing an apron.

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<v Speaker 2>I want an apron. Thank you so much for the chat.

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<v Speaker 2>It was so fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you you too. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>A big thanks to Amy for popping in. She certainly

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<v Speaker 1>has an infectious way of talking and I'm really glad

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<v Speaker 1>that I got some advice from her. However, not sure

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<v Speaker 1>if my spaghetti would get me fired in the competition,

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<v Speaker 1>but who knows. Now we've got Alice ready to pop in.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a very different pace to the interview, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you'll get something completely different out of this

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<v Speaker 1>as Alice has a fantastic way of talking about food. Hi, Alice,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing pretty well. I am in London.

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<v Speaker 4>I've just been traveling around for work and so this

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<v Speaker 4>whole I have not seen anything any episode. I've been

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<v Speaker 4>sort of catch up on the Socialism with other contestants.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's been very surreal to be outside of Australia

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<v Speaker 4>while the show's airing.

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<v Speaker 2>That seems like torture A little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>Or maybe good.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I'm a little bit embarrassed to see myself

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<v Speaker 4>on TV, so that it's the sort of shy side

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<v Speaker 4>of me, in covert side of me.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you learn about yourself taking on Mastership Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>I learnt that I love being a child and finding

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<v Speaker 4>an excuse to be a child. I guess it's because

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<v Speaker 4>I was always serious as a child, is very studious.

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<v Speaker 4>Getting to be a child as an adult is such

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<v Speaker 4>a blessing to me personally, and I think, moving forward,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to chase those opportunities to tap the inner child.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I thought you were super organized, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>actually a little bit intimidated by your studious nature and

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<v Speaker 1>how smart you are and talking about food like science.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's an interesting way to be looking at food.

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<v Speaker 1>How long had you been considering food to be a science?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh gosh, I said horribly obnoxious saying this, so forgive me.

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<v Speaker 4>When I was in college, when I was at home,

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<v Speaker 4>there was a course called the Science of Cooking, I believe,

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<v Speaker 4>and they brought in Adrian Fera. They brought in these

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<v Speaker 4>astronomers and cooks to teach with chemistry professors and the

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<v Speaker 4>whole idea was to look at how food, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>whether it's my own reaction or how molecular look astronomy works,

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<v Speaker 4>Food rotates around chemistry and physics. And that was the

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<v Speaker 4>first time when I realized, actually, there are a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of intellectual people.

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<v Speaker 5>In the space.

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<v Speaker 4>And then I got more intellectually interested in food. A

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<v Speaker 4>lot of these cooks and writers about food come from,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, whether it's Nagel Lasson, Anthony Bulldain. They come

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<v Speaker 4>from an approach of journalism or history or culture and anthropology.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just thought, wow, this is a space in which,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, even people that look like me, will sound

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<v Speaker 4>like me, will come from my background, can really thrive.

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<v Speaker 4>And then when I got out of college, I was

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<v Speaker 4>in a relationship and that was what awakened me to

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<v Speaker 4>this notion that actually I could potentially do this as

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<v Speaker 4>part of my career, because I think I'd had blinkers

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<v Speaker 4>on in terms of focusing on what was feasible professionally,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, being a doctor, a lawyer or consultants. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, in that relationship, I was cooking all the

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<v Speaker 4>time and loving it, and I finally came to the

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<v Speaker 4>realization that there might be a chance that I could

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<v Speaker 4>actually make a career out of this one day.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that kind of the selling point when you were

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<v Speaker 1>going through the casting process? Did you send in an

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<v Speaker 1>audition video and talk about the science of cooking? And

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<v Speaker 1>is that the reason why they were particularly interested in

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<v Speaker 1>your style?

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe my selling point was that I'd watched some series

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<v Speaker 4>of Mastership as well. I don't think there has really

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<v Speaker 4>been somebody like news come from an academic background, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I studied history and economics. I was very much in

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<v Speaker 4>a different miliare. And then to sort of want to

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<v Speaker 4>dip my toes into an even dive headfirst into this world,

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<v Speaker 4>I think was probably something that they hadn't seen before.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think in the video I was talking a

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<v Speaker 4>lot about the fact that I felt like I think

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<v Speaker 4>I may have said in the first episode, I felt

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<v Speaker 4>like so much of my life has been dictated by

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<v Speaker 4>my brain and being able to think, and I would

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<v Speaker 4>love to have the opportunity to marry the heart and

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<v Speaker 4>the head in the way that food allows, which is,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you are thinking, like we've just talked about

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<v Speaker 4>in this care but you're also feeling and creating memories

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<v Speaker 4>and feelings and emotions with people and I hope that

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<v Speaker 4>they could do that in the Master Chef kitchen. So

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<v Speaker 4>maybe that was who knows, maybe that's why it brought.

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<v Speaker 2>Me No, I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to know, like, and even talking to

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<v Speaker 1>you now, you're so calm and so collected and very

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<v Speaker 1>well spoken. And I wondered whether or not the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>of these pressure tests and these challenges, do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that they are tough enough? I mean, how did you

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<v Speaker 1>approach them? As the show went on?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, they definitely are tough.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, I watched a couple of pressure tests

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<v Speaker 4>growing up in previous seasons, and what I realized watching

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<v Speaker 4>them is that it's actually not necessarily the most experienced

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<v Speaker 4>or the best or the strongest cook that stays in

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<v Speaker 4>the competition and is able to survive a pressure test.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the one that's able to have the stamina on

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<v Speaker 4>resilience and pivot and fight back when whenever something bad happens.

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<v Speaker 4>And as we just talked about with Tech, I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>something bad is always going to happen on a pressure test,

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<v Speaker 4>and it's just a matter of having that cognitive and emotional,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, equanimity and ability to say, Okay, I've got

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<v Speaker 4>my I've got to pick myself up. I can pivot,

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<v Speaker 4>I can save this, and so going into that I

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<v Speaker 4>was I was trying to channel that energy. But at

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<v Speaker 4>the same time, you know, you never really know what

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to get into, and certainly with the lambing competition,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it was like five or six hours of

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<v Speaker 4>having to make Lamington's I was just thinking, gosh, you

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<v Speaker 4>just need a whole lot of stamina to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to survive it. And also reading line by line because

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<v Speaker 4>you know, there are moments as well in that episode

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<v Speaker 4>in which I've had I have to reread, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>an instruction three or four times because you've got so

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<v Speaker 4>much pressure on you and you don't want to screw

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<v Speaker 4>up a step because you know it's going to lead

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<v Speaker 4>to you know, the next step. And so yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 4>just a ton of pressure even in the midst of

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<v Speaker 4>it as well getting getting everything right on top of

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<v Speaker 4>the time constraints.

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like my ADHD would have me missing

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<v Speaker 1>certain lines, I'd moving on to the next thing and

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<v Speaker 1>digging myself more and more wholes. So like the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of Mastership Australia to me, is way too stressful. But

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk to you about your coping mechanisms

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<v Speaker 1>and what sort of support do you get through the series?

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<v Speaker 1>Are there people there to check in on you and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you're coping with the pressure coping mechanisms.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I've struggled with this because I am perfectionist

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<v Speaker 4>by Nietzsure, I'm Type A, and so, you know, in

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<v Speaker 4>a way, Masterschef has been an amazing experience because it's

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<v Speaker 4>taught me that there's nothing embarrassing about failure, and that

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<v Speaker 4>one should approach life is glass at full rather than

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<v Speaker 4>glass empty and sort of fixate on the flaws and

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<v Speaker 4>all the sort of critical elements of an experience or

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<v Speaker 4>and so I've tried to tell myself to focus on

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<v Speaker 4>the positive and see things in a more optimistic, positive light,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's helped me, you know, but I still struggle

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<v Speaker 4>because I think it's hard once you're you know, once

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<v Speaker 4>you know that your perfections, it's hard to change. Really,

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<v Speaker 4>it's hard to change, and it's and then the positive

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<v Speaker 4>being a perfectionist is that you know, you're constantly trying

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<v Speaker 4>to be better and you're constantly growing. And so I'm

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<v Speaker 4>trying to embrace the fact that I am a perfectionist

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<v Speaker 4>and b I'm going to have to find ways to

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<v Speaker 4>just coach myself every day and it's a battle. For

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<v Speaker 4>every negative there is a positive, and hopefully just focus

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<v Speaker 4>on the positive more and honestly, just being on the

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<v Speaker 4>show with amazing people. I mean, I would say especially

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<v Speaker 4>people like Robbie and Rhianna and Kath who have had

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<v Speaker 4>more life experience and have learned from difficult moments in

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<v Speaker 4>their lives and grown and they've just been so generous

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<v Speaker 4>with sharing their wisdom. And whether it's you know, don't

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<v Speaker 4>sweat the small staff for being encouraging, super encouraging to

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<v Speaker 4>the younger contestants, or giving them a sense of stability

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<v Speaker 4>and care and solicity solicitude. You know, I'm just so

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<v Speaker 4>grateful that they've been on the show and been sort

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<v Speaker 4>of mentors in a way. They've they've been our parents

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<v Speaker 4>and mentors and families away from from home.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they the ones that check in on your and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure you're okay or do you have producers or

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<v Speaker 1>welfare people that can come and check on you and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that you're going okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, the whole crew, I would say, you know, whether

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<v Speaker 4>it's the story producers for the IVS or the Foxies

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<v Speaker 4>or you know, even people who are helping us, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>get from A to B, you know, driving us to set.

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<v Speaker 4>I think everyone is just so human and so willing

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<v Speaker 4>to sort of check in with you because they know

0:24:40.920 --> 0:24:44.719
<v Speaker 4>how difficult it is. We're effectively in a bubble and

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<v Speaker 4>the steaks have been really raised to a really high level,

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<v Speaker 4>and so a lot of it is self imposed pressure,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think the crew has done a great job

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<v Speaker 4>of realizing that and just being there to provide care

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<v Speaker 4>and support. But are so levity because I think levity

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<v Speaker 4>so important, you know, being able to dance it out

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<v Speaker 4>or do something goofy and fun. Yeah, that's been a

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<v Speaker 4>great coping mechanism too. I think the last thing that

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<v Speaker 4>I'd say is is always try to find something fun.

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<v Speaker 4>And for me it was, you know, dancing a lot

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<v Speaker 4>on set was just a great.

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<v Speaker 2>Coping Are you a good dancer?

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<v Speaker 1>Though?

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<v Speaker 5>I am a keen dancer.

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<v Speaker 4>I am a lot of interpretive dancing, of taking a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of dancing classes. I don't know the juries out

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<v Speaker 4>in that. There might maybe some videos in which you

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<v Speaker 4>can see and you know, past judgment, but I definitely

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<v Speaker 4>love a good.

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<v Speaker 1>Dance, you know, when the judges announced that they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a childhood classic. You know, what was

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<v Speaker 1>your favorite home cooked meal as a kid? What is

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<v Speaker 1>your childhood classic?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, honestly, I had no idea what it was going

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<v Speaker 4>to be. I was hoping that it would be a dessert.

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<v Speaker 4>Love to I love to learn new techniques and in

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<v Speaker 4>terms of classics as a kid, so my parents are

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<v Speaker 4>Chinese from Shanghai, and so growing up, it was a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of you know, it's gonna it's not gonna sound

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<v Speaker 4>as good when I translated into English, but there was

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<v Speaker 4>There's this dish that's basically like fried egg and tomato,

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<v Speaker 4>which is like Chinese kid's equivalent of I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>vegiemi toast, Yeah, veggiemi toast okay, and Australian kid kid's

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<v Speaker 4>equivalent of veggimi on toast. It's just it's just pure

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<v Speaker 4>comfort food. And the other one is my dad makes

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<v Speaker 4>really and I'm so glad that I got to do

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<v Speaker 4>it on the Service Challenge. He makes really good raised

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<v Speaker 4>pork belly that sort of melts in your mouth, So

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<v Speaker 4>that would be another classic.

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<v Speaker 1>Alice, nobody likes this question, but could you have done

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<v Speaker 1>anything different? Do you think looking back, you know with

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<v Speaker 1>the Messianetta, Now that you've had that experience, are you thinking, oh, gee,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I would have just done this part differently.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes and no, because I think I still haven't figured

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<v Speaker 4>out what happened to my ice cream, because if it

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<v Speaker 4>was the machine that was set too high or I

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<v Speaker 4>honestly no idea because when I look at Declan's and Graces,

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<v Speaker 4>there's didn't freeze over in the machine, and for some reason,

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<v Speaker 4>both of mine did. And so I have no idea

0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 4>if it was the machine or the ratios. But it

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<v Speaker 4>surprises me that it would be the ratios because I

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<v Speaker 4>did two different types of gilato. So I mean, at

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the day, I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 4>fix that.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll blame the machine.

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<v Speaker 4>Other than having a different machine, A poor tradesman, what

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<v Speaker 4>is it blame? No, No, But there was no way

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<v Speaker 4>to walk that back. I couldn't chemically, I mean, and

0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 4>you saw on the show. I mean by a tep.

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<v Speaker 4>To walk that back was to leave it on the

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<v Speaker 4>cannon t melt a little bit so I could put

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<v Speaker 4>it in the molds. But I honestly I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>that that would have been That was the sticking point

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<v Speaker 4>for me, and then it was just harder to walk back.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you think the Declan was going to use his

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<v Speaker 1>immunity pin the way in which the episode plays out

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:44.439
<v Speaker 1>on television, it really did seem like he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to maybe call that out even up to the last minute,

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<v Speaker 1>Not that I think it would have necessarily affected the elimination,

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<v Speaker 1>but was that in the back of your mind?

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, I didn't think he would use it because I

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<v Speaker 4>know Declan well enough and I've seen him, you know,

0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:02.119
<v Speaker 4>in the trenches in the first pressure test to know that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's a tradee. He knows how to you know,

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:11.480
<v Speaker 4>follow instructions very precisely and methodically, and he's good, good

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:14.479
<v Speaker 4>head on his shoulders, he's not phased by things. So

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 4>I just thought going into the cook, A, he's got

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.000
<v Speaker 4>the experience of the lamingtons, and B he's got the

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 4>right mentality and wherewithal to do really well in a

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.119
<v Speaker 4>pressure test. So I honestly didn't think he would uce

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 4>the immunity pin, and I thought it was just it

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<v Speaker 4>was going to effectively be a one and two charts

0:28:30.960 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 4>of elimination.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you have used an immunity pin if you had one.

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<v Speaker 4>If I knew about the gelato for fiasco, probably, but

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 4>at that point I probably would have been playing.

0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 3>It in the second half.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I probably would have just to save my bacon.

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Donado was what a fantastic chef. I mean, the standard

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>of celebrity chefs on the show are unbelievable. Was there

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 1>anything in particular that you learned from him?

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, he helped me a couple of times during the cook

0:28:58.200 --> 0:29:01.640
<v Speaker 4>and he was so kind and patient and thoughtful. I

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 4>mean you saw that I was struggling with tempering chocolate

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 4>at one point, and even with the gelato, just making

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 4>sure that I could get it safely out of the mold.

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 4>So you know, he was giving me techniques on piping,

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 4>how to pipe well, how to temper well, what to

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 4>look out for. Yeah, I just felt like I was

0:29:19.920 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 4>getting a mini pastry class from a great pastry chef,

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:28.040
<v Speaker 4>and he did it with such generosity and patience. Yeah,

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm really glad I had that interaction.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I wanted to ask you about, you know, celebrity

0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:34.480
<v Speaker 1>chefs here in Australia, and you know, you were talking

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 1>about your heritage being from Shanghai.

0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like we have.

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Enough celebrity chefs representing multicultural Australia on shows like Master Chef.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Master Chef when it first started you fifteen

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 4>years ago, has done a great service to Australia's culinary scene.

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:55.600
<v Speaker 4>I mean, as you say, we are a multicultural country,

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 4>benefit greatly from that in the culinary, in a cultural way,

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 4>in all those ways. And Master Chef opened our households

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:07.240
<v Speaker 4>to the fact that we are multicultural and that there's

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 4>so many dishes, whether it's from South Asia and at

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 4>least China Africa that need to be put on a

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.160
<v Speaker 4>plate and need to be tried. And you know, it's

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 4>created careers for people like Monoli and Poe and Reynolds,

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 4>and it will for other people on this show. And

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 4>I am just so proud to be part of something

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:28.360
<v Speaker 4>that a embraces the fact that Australia is multiculture and

0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:32.400
<v Speaker 4>be actively promotes, you know, people who otherwise wouldn't have

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:35.640
<v Speaker 4>had the opportunity to make a statement about the culture

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 4>that they come from and be able to do that

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 4>in this really generous way on MasterChef.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you say that this experience has changed your life?

0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Do you think that being a part of Master chef

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.520
<v Speaker 1>has taking you down a different path I think.

0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:53.720
<v Speaker 4>So, you know, there's a god. I sound like such

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<v Speaker 4>a nerd. There's a quote by Soren kid Guard, life

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<v Speaker 4>is best lived forward but understood backwards. And I'm trying

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<v Speaker 4>to live it forward. And then I guess I'll see

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<v Speaker 4>as I go along that you know, how it's changed

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<v Speaker 4>my life. But I have this intuition that it has.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I've met amazing people I want to find

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<v Speaker 4>ways to collaborate with. I've been so inspired by the judges,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, getting to meet Melissa my idol was just

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<v Speaker 4>in an added bonus. So it's just given me, if anything,

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<v Speaker 4>And I said it on the show with fire and

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<v Speaker 4>my belly, to say to myself, actually, I can do

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<v Speaker 4>something out of food. It's not just a pipe dream,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I can actually make it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>What advice do you have for people who are wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to apply. I mean, I feel like this show is

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<v Speaker 1>going to go on for a very long time and

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<v Speaker 1>this is a great opportunity for you to explain to

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<v Speaker 1>people who might want to apply, you know, some advice

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<v Speaker 1>on how to get onto the show and how to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with the show once you're there.

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<v Speaker 4>So advice on how to get onto the show. Well, firstly,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I think anyone with a love of food

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<v Speaker 4>and who wants to get involved in the food world

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<v Speaker 4>should apply. You know, in terms of the application. At

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the day, you just you know, this

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<v Speaker 4>is the oft quoted. It sounds cliche, but it's so true.

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<v Speaker 4>Just need to be yourself because everyone else has taken

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, whatever light you have or statement you

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<v Speaker 4>have about food is going to be unique and it's

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<v Speaker 4>worth expressing. And hopefully you can do that in Master

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<v Speaker 4>Chef and see Master Chef not necessarily as just a competition.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, one person is going to win, but for

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<v Speaker 4>the rest of us, it's a platform. It's in to

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<v Speaker 4>pivot or to be more involved in food. So to

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<v Speaker 4>see that strategically as air platform, I think is probably

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<v Speaker 4>my biggest takeaway. You know, we can get fixated about

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<v Speaker 4>you know, not failing and about winning in life, but

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of the day, we're all in our

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<v Speaker 4>own races and it's just finding opportunities like Master Chef

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<v Speaker 4>that allow us to get to where we want to

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<v Speaker 4>want to go in life. And so as a result,

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<v Speaker 4>I think everyone should apply if they love food and

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<v Speaker 4>treat it as an experience to do what they love.

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<v Speaker 2>Challenge yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I always say, if you're scared of it, push against

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<v Speaker 1>the fear exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I and yeah always.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I've made it my life motto is, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>don't run away from things that you're scared of, Actually

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<v Speaker 4>run towards it and see where it takes you.

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<v Speaker 1>You might be surprised when you left the competition. Did

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<v Speaker 1>you have an idea as to who you think might

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<v Speaker 1>take it out and who's going to be the winner

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<v Speaker 1>of Australian MASTERSHIF for twenty twenty three my own.

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<v Speaker 4>Sort of view, I have a short list. I probably

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<v Speaker 4>would say Rhiannon, Kath and Declan, just based on you know,

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<v Speaker 4>their cooking expertise, their characters and their stamina. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>Rhiannon just has you know, the greatest stamina I've ever seen,

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<v Speaker 4>and she's got amazing energy. She's so experienced with different cuisines,

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<v Speaker 4>so vibrant, so willing to learn and grow. And Cath too,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean she's got a wealth of experience cooking at

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<v Speaker 4>home and you know we've seen on multiple episodes already

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<v Speaker 4>that she's got incredible intuestion and technique in a restaurant,

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<v Speaker 4>quality food and a couple of these dishes. She's played

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<v Speaker 4>it and then and then Declan is just I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>who doesn't love Declan. He's he's he's got the character,

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<v Speaker 4>he's got the humor. You knows, who's great at a

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<v Speaker 4>fish as we know as his game. But he's has

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<v Speaker 4>grown a lot in the episodes, and you know, kind

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<v Speaker 4>of reminds I'm sure people would make this comparison, but

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<v Speaker 4>it reminds me of the younger Andy. You know, somebody

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<v Speaker 4>was just soaking it all up, and so I could

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<v Speaker 4>see the three of them, you know, buying for the top.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he might be right, But Declan, what I

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<v Speaker 1>want to ask you next is something that I ask

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<v Speaker 1>everyone who joins the podcast. What is something from behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes, something that we may not see as an audience,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of your behind the scene secret of Mastership of Australia.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm going to say something very frankly, is that

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<v Speaker 4>at the end of the day, the day of a

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<v Speaker 4>long cook, the last thing we want to do is cook,

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<v Speaker 4>and so we eat out a lot, or we all

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<v Speaker 4>go to somebody's room. You know, I really remember that

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<v Speaker 4>Robbie loved to cook for us after a long cook

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<v Speaker 4>he's you make a curry or a luxA and we'd

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<v Speaker 4>all just chip in and bring you know, like a

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<v Speaker 4>pot luck, we'd bring our own a dish and we

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<v Speaker 4>just sit down and eat and have fun and unwind.

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<v Speaker 1>I also love that food brings people together, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's why. You know, if you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>history of Mastership Australia, the camaraderie between the cast and

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<v Speaker 1>the crew and everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Is so so warm.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so inclusive, and I think that has a lot

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the food and the way in which

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<v Speaker 1>food brings people together.

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<v Speaker 4>Intellectually known this for a while and been and romantically

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<v Speaker 4>attracted to this notion of you know, breaking bread. Some

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<v Speaker 4>of the best interactions you have with people are over food.

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<v Speaker 4>The best conversations you have with people are over food.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, even if you are from two different political

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<v Speaker 4>points of view or cultures that are antagonistic towards each other,

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<v Speaker 4>you can both feel nourished by a meal or appreciate

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<v Speaker 4>how good it is. And I don't think food is

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<v Speaker 4>polarizing in the way that other things are in our world.

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<v Speaker 4>It brings out the best in people, and I Samny

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<v Speaker 4>saw this on the show, and it creates connects and

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<v Speaker 4>bonds that don't polarize, and I think we really do

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<v Speaker 4>need that in our world today when there's just so

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<v Speaker 4>much polarization.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know, I just want to say thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for your generosity with your time and chatting

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<v Speaker 1>to me from overseas no less. I think you did

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<v Speaker 1>a fantastic job on the show, and I'll be interested

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<v Speaker 1>to see you know where you take this experience from here.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>I really appreciate your time, and I'm sure you get

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<v Speaker 4>this a lot, but you've got a very soothing voice,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's been good to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much.