WEBVTT - Emissions law madness and the new Lexus GX 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:07.160 Do you want to have a guard doing the intro 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:09.680 like the theme music's rolling? Do you want to kind of. 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:16.800 Welcome to the program, the problem program? What's that program? 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:17.120 Oh? 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:17.840 Go grab? 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:20.320 Do you want to have another guy doing the intro? 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:24.439 Welcome to the show? Jesus Christ, this is why you 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:25.880 don't do it? How are you? 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:26.439 Yeah? 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:27.920 Great, so much better now. 0:00:28.040 --> 0:00:31.600 Yeah, I'm sure this banana bread's going down to treat. 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:33.479 Yeah, thank you for buying that for me. That's all right, 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:36.159 thanks to the left. That's the first sweet thing I've 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:37.000 had for a few weeks. 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:41.760 In your mouth to life, that's a lie. Shit's been hectic, 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:44.040 hasn't it. At the start of the year. I've got love. 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:47.400 I feel like I'm so boring because I've been so busy, 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.240 yet I'm just so bored at the same time. Yeah, 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:52.919 there's just nothing, nothing great. That's a lot of exciting 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:53.640 stuff coming up. 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:55.480 Yeah, well, that's the feedback I get from people who 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:56.200 listen to your radio. 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:59.800 Shit, that's the feedback I get from your wife. You're 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:05.559 that you're very boring. She's like, he whispers, engineering things 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:06.720 in the throes of passion. 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:09.840 It's okay. Do you want a square roon? 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:18.880 You just whispers the weirdest inane thing. How good is 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:25.280 the miracle of flight? China the Chinese Chicken? What nothing? 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:28.720 It's a song by smash Mouth. You just come back 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:33.560 from the world's newest third world country, Los Angeles. That 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:37.720 is so true. What a hole? Yeah? 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:39.480 For how woke California is? 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:39.840 It is? 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:42.240 It is a grim place at the moment. 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:44.600 So I was over there and we'll chat about this 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:47.560 shortly in the States to talk to drive the new 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:52.560 Lexus GX. But after that drive, I went to Los 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:56.360 Angeles to film some extra content. And while Arizona, where 0:01:56.400 --> 0:02:00.960 we went for GX, is absolutely stunning, amazing, and you know, 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:01.680 it's just cool. 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:02.880 It's just a cool spot. 0:02:03.960 --> 0:02:08.320 Los Angeles has really just descended into San Francisco. 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.840 My goodness, that is a joint you did not want 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:11.280 to go near. 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:14.360 So it's the mecca for the holy homeless. 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:16.440 Yeah, but just very quickly. 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:20.040 It is sad what it has become because not only 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:22.920 is it very expensive, and that is just for a 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.480 US resident. It is very very expensive if you're going 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:27.880 there as an Australian because that dollar sucks. But if 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:29.760 you're over there and you don't have a job or 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:32.000 you don't really own much money. I just don't understand 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.000 how anyone's surviving. And you can see why there are 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.160 so many homeless people, but they just keep jacking the cost. 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:37.520 Of everything up. 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:41.440 They're pushing everyone into these expensive evs like it is 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:43.320 just a bit of a disaster. 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.720 So Webby, what always sort of like throws me is 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:51.000 in different states in America, there's different tax laws and 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:55.080 different healthcare systems as well. So if you live in Texas, 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.679 for instance, you kind of can get a better deal 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:00.320 on things like medical and tax benefits and stuff like 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:02.399 that where he's in La Oh Jesus. 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:04.760 But it's even down to stuff like fuel. 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:08.760 So in Phoenix, we were staying just outside Phoenix, fuel 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.720 was like two dollars eighty US a gallon. In Los 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:15.639 Angeles it was closer to five dollars a gallon. So 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:19.840 I just I really don't understand how you can have 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:23.160 such a discrepancy when this joint is, you know, one 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.160 thousand kilometers away here at least you know it is 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.200 similar in terms of fuel. It's not going to be 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:31.800 dollars of difference. So yeah, I just think it's it's 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:33.520 a bit of a broken country at the moment, So 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.880 I'll be interested to see how they fix all of that. 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.240 But yeah, it's not not a good situation. 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:41.400 I've been divided for a long time too, and I 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.520 don't think it hasn't gotten better at all. Despite whether 0:03:44.560 --> 0:03:47.360 you're a Trump guy, whether you're a who's the sleepy 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.320 old man, the demension guy Joe Biden, whether you're a 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:51.520 Biden guy, I'm. 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:52.200 Waiting for that guy. 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.360 It's just like die mid press conference. 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:56.520 He genuinely has no idea where he is. 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.000 They got him the other day because this is two 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.560 into a politics podcast, but I watched a feverit and 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:04.560 news while I was over there. They got him for 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.880 hoarding classified documents, which is exactly what they got Trump for, 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.800 and one of the people that was investigating said something 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:13.680 along the lines of. 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:17.920 He's a well meaning elderly man with a bad memory. 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:22.040 And I'm like, you've just said that about your president, 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:26.360 and one of the guys in the way are Yeah, 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:28.120 I just craped my pants. 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:29.039 Anyway. 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:31.799 So yeah, we'll talk more about the LEXUSJX shortly, and 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.200 I might even I'll touch on it now. Just some 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:37.480 of the stuff that we did outside of the GX 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:40.400 launch in Los Angeles. We drove the Twitter rad Fall Prime, 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:44.320 which is fantastic. So that's basically the rad Fall that 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.440 we get, but it's a plug in hybrid and it 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:48.320 does zero to one hundred and under six seconds. 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.279 She is phenomenal, tchnique. 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:55.040 Really efficient, very easy to manage and drive. We also 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:57.960 drove the Keya Tell You Ride the x Pro, which 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:59.840 is the off road version on All Terrains. 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:02.760 Almost got shot by a lady. 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:03.000 Well. 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:05.120 I just presumed I was where it was going to 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:08.159 escalate that this was American American dotter pretty much. 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:11.160 She came and started yelling at us for using the 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:14.600 filming on this land that she claimed private America. 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:18.600 Get on my land, Hey, stop pouring the kids shoes. 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.279 But I asked her, so whose land is it? 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.719 Just because I'll go ask permission if it's not okay, 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:26.280 because I was genuinely like, well, I don't want to 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.320 film here if it's someone land and she goes, I 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:30.440 think it's the guy up there, and I said ok 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:31.880 I said do you have permission to be here? 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:33.520 Because she was walking her dogs on it. 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.720 And she's like yeah, And I'm like, but you don't 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:39.599 know who owns the land. So I was like, all right, cool, Like, 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.880 you just look like you probably hit the pipe fairly frequently, 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:44.360 so I'm just going to get out of here before 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:45.600 you come back and shoot me. 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:47.040 I would have asked for a sweet deal. 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:49.840 But yeah, So I did that and also drove a 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:54.400 rivianah yeah, yeah, yeah to the suv and that ended 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:57.719 up being an absolute disaster. When it came to charging 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:00.560 as part of the review, I thought, let's just shoot 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:03.039 a bit of content on what it's like to charge 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.960 a car in a state like California that is fully 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:09.240 into EVS and outside of Norway is one of the 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.480 more progressive sort of electric feed They kind. 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:13.080 Of led the way with that sort of stuff. They 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:14.200 really championed it. 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:15.640 And I genuinely thought it was just going to be 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:17.400 like a five minute video and everything was going to 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:20.640 be great. It ended up being an absolute saga. It 0:06:20.680 --> 0:06:23.760 took us so long to actually charge this car, as in, 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.719 find a charger that wasn't that didn't have a queue 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:28.200 of ten fifteen cars. 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:31.040 Yeah, it was incredible watching that footage, unbelievable. I was 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:31.640 blown away. 0:06:31.880 --> 0:06:33.760 So yeah, I'll have a video on that. Will chat 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:35.600 about that in a bit more detail later. 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:37.960 All Right, We thought we should talk about emissions laws. 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:39.600 Do you want to start with that? Do you want 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.200 to talk about emissions laws? Because they're sort of coming 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.080 up and a few things have been and now it's 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.400 now I'm going to go through my dumbass kind of 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.920 understanding of this and then you can throw me over 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:51.360 the coals and just tell me where I'm kind of right, 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.800 because basically all wrong, Yeah, all right, all wrong, very 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.960 much wrong. So Paul wanted to bring up emissions standards, 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.680 and so I thought to myself, here we go. He's 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.240 going to have like a little Pavais moment of I'm 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:06.279 going to have an editorial. From what I can understand 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:09.720 is you lower emissions, you lower the carbon footprint. Right now, 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.960 Europe has been, I guess, leading the way on this. 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.240 They kind of change the game when it comes to 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.200 emissions full stop. And that includes the current industry. So 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:22.080 the difference between Europe and Australia is Europe is very 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:27.160 much mandated by laws. Australia is, well, we have these 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:30.640 things called voluntary emissions targets. Now, from what I can 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:34.760 get is we're not really accountable to even hit these 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.880 targets at all. And I think in the last three years, 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:42.680 we haven't. I think it's gotten worse. So we sell 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:45.200 heaps of view, heaps of four wheel drives. The one 0:07:45.200 --> 0:07:48.520 thing I will say is when it comes to what 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:53.520 causes high emissions, so Australia has really dirty fuel on 0:07:53.560 --> 0:07:55.520 the world market, on the world sort of scheme of 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.800 it all, we've got dirty fuel which they're fixing. Well, yes, 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.200 that's kind of part of this whole thing. So we 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.200 love our utes, we love our four wheel drives, and 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:04.720 so this is going to make it tougher when it 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:08.360 comes to new laws coming into force. What exactly was 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.880 announced this week, I'm a bit confused at So all 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:16.080 new cars, SUVs, light commercial vehicles, basically anything that's introduced 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:20.280 in Australia in September next year, so that's twenty twenty 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:25.560 five has to go by the new Euro six D standard. 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:30.200 Previous existing models will have to hit that by twenty 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.839 twenty eight. And that's to comply. Half the current models 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.280 we've got on sale right now are Euro five So 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:40.880 Euro six D is even stricter. Yep. With that, you 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:42.760 don't just consider the type of car, You've got to 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.000 consider the type of petrol that's going into it. Now, 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:46.600 this is the weird thing. This is what I couldn't 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:48.280 quite get, which you can get to in a second. 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:51.160 But I know that we're going to be reducing the 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.840 amount of sultware in our petrol, and I think this 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:57.720 seems like it's going to be affecting octane ninety five. 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:03.280 So yeah, basically, and ninety one is the worst defender 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:04.800 at the moment. If you look at ninety one rong 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:08.280 fuel that we have in Australia, it is amongst the 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:12.000 worst in the world for sulfur content, and that is 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:15.960 why a lot of modern engines require ninety five or 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:17.960 ninety eight ROND fuel to run. 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:20.319 So a lot of European vehicles that are sold in. 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:23.120 Australia have minimums because if you feed at ninety one 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:27.360 it will basically destroy the engine. So yeah, that that 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.600 is what they're looking at fixing. And they already fixed diesel. 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:32.440 So the sulfur content in diesel is now sort of 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:36.920 in amongst first world countries, but our unleaded fuel is 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.000 amongst the worst in the world, and that's what they're 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:39.720 looking at fixing. 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:40.800 That's also the. 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:44.160 One that they claim will only increase the cost of 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:46.440 fuel by a cent or two cents a lead, which 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:47.760 I just think is absolute nonsense. 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:48.680 It'll be much more than that. 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.720 So this is and that includes taking sulfur and stuff 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:53.000 like that at or the rubbish. 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:53.160 Ye. 0:09:56.520 --> 0:09:59.360 So basically what this I feel like, what this is 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.520 going to sort of packed is things like youtes heavy 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:08.439 duty kind of commercial vehicles, utes apparently like Niche sports cars. 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:10.959 I don't know what falls under Niche sports cars by 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:14.120 the way, because yeah, anyway, it depends what you go with. 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:20.079 But apparently some budget hashback models as well. Yep, so 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:25.920 that don't really have the Euro six dy variants. That's 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:29.320 sort of a big question will they survive? But yeah, 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.040 where am I at with that? Good? 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:35.440 Okay, now just give you one sect of triple checks, 0:10:35.480 --> 0:10:39.840 I think. So that's all sort of pretty much there. 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:42.440 Just the sort of nuances of it. 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:46.120 The way that it will work is manufacturers will have 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:50.880 limits per vehicle that they have to meet. So this 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:54.920 is average CO two emissions per kilometer across their vehicle fleets. 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.960 So if you think of let's say Ford for example, 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.120 and you've got all of the vehicles that they sell, 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.400 basically they're going to say that let's say your limit 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:06.240 is two hundred grams per kilometer or something like that. 0:11:06.559 --> 0:11:08.120 There's plucking that out of thin air. 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:12.960 If their average sales mainly rangeer in Everest, which they are, 0:11:13.520 --> 0:11:16.120 what they'll need to do is basically figure out what 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:20.599 amount above that average they're contributing to the environment for 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:23.320 the vehicles that they sell, and then they will be 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:24.280 penalized for that. 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:29.760 So would they be inclined to be interested because they 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.520 don't really just said they don't really have many evs. 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.640 They've got the here in Australia, they've got the Mark three, 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.640 the Mustang Mark three. I think they've got like some 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.280 sort of a transit van too. Does that mean I 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:44.040 know they're working on like a small EV, but does 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:46.160 that mean they'll be introducing more hybrids and evs? 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.760 Well, exactly because logically you don't want to be paying 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:51.080 these fines. But what happens then, and this is what's 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.840 happened in Europe as well, car companies like Tesla that 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:57.680 only make electric vehicles will get credits. So what you 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.000 can then do is sell your credits to another car company, 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.000 so Forward can buy credits from Tesla as they're fine. 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.400 And this is how Tesla built its factory in Europe 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:11.000 they basically had Alfa Romeo or the Stalantes group paying 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.680 their credits to Tesla. Then Tesla used that money to 0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:17.720 create a factory. So that is the sort of gist 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:19.400 of how it's going to work. Now, there are a 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.160 number of problems with this though, So. 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.240 One thing I will say is who created that rule? 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.960 Yeah, I mean this is what they're doing to try 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.760 and get people into cleaner vehicles, which I get it, 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.880 it makes sense, but to put it into context, passenger 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:38.000 cars and light commercial vehicles only contribute around ten percent 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.240 a little bit more than ten percent of Australia's total emissions. 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:45.520 So they are focusing very heavily on this one industry 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.560 and it doesn't seem they're putting much effort into anything else. 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.840 So the problem with this is that at the moment, 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:55.040 you really don't have the ability for people to buy 0:12:55.120 --> 0:12:58.960 the vehicles that they need to be able to meet 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:02.320 this requirement. Putting this in from twenty twenty five, if 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.880 you're a tradee there is not an electric ute. Well 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.400 there is an electric ute, but it's rubbish. It's the LDV. 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.720 So you're saying to them, okay, well, now you're forcing 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:12.640 a car company to go Okay, well we're going to 0:13:12.679 --> 0:13:15.319 increase the price of this car because a car company 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:17.079 isn't just going to take up all those costs. They're 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:17.920 going to pass them on to the. 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.240 Consumerw okay, so and they'll use that I mean that 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:22.040 extra cost is credits right. 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:23.600 Well, yeah, I mean they're passing it on. 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:25.679 There's no way a car company is going to go, okay, 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:27.400 well we'll just absorb the cost of all this and 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.880 just continue selling cars. They'll either withdraw a car from 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:32.360 sale if they don't have a better engine, or alternatively, 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.679 they will charge more for the car knowing that it's 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.400 the only engine they have available. And you, as as 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.040 a person in Australia that is buying a car, are 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:42.560 either going to be forced buy an expensive EV which 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:45.240 is what they are at the moment compared to internal combustion. 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.560 Cars, or alternatively, you're. 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:51.080 Going to have to pay more for an internal combustion 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:54.679 car that doesn't meet these requirements. Now, the counter to 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:58.520 that is that these car companies sell vehicles like the 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:01.640 Ranger and the high Lux in countries that already have 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:05.679 these requirements. So there are engines they already produce in 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.760 other countries that meet these requirements. They will eventually bring 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:10.480 those two Australia because obviously they don't want. 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:10.880 To be fine. 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:13.640 But the extra cost of all of that is going 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.920 to get passed on to the consumers. So where they 0:14:15.960 --> 0:14:19.760 say here that Australians will save around thousand dollars per 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:22.800 vehicle per year in fuel costs, who's saying that the 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:27.160 government is absolute bullshit. There is no way it is 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:30.040 going to I mean, these engines, yes, they are more efficient, 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.240 but they're not going to save your thousand dollars a year. 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:36.880 Then they further go on to claim that the average 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:40.200 new vehicle purchase purchaser in twenty twenty eight claim to 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.320 be looking at a saving of five seven hundred and 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.880 ten over five years. It is absolute nonsense. There is 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:48.840 no way you are going to be saving that much 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.760 more fuel. In addition to that, the extra cost of 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.400 the vehicle, which is going to be passed on to 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:56.000 you as a consumer, is not going to offset the 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.680 fuel saving either. So I just think that it's a 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:03.320 great idea. Yes, we need to make the automotive industry greener, 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.880 et cetera, et cetera, but at the moment, you don't 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:08.160 have vehicles for sale that are suitable for this if 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:10.840 you have a look at what Australians are buying, which 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:13.600 is utes and SUVs, and if you have a look 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:17.040 in the States as well. I mean their biggest seller 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.000 is the fine fifty huge, an enormous vehicle. 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.880 It's weird too because you're looking at I know this 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:25.640 sounds like a really basic thing to say, but I'm 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:28.600 used to it now. When you look at like the 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:31.640 consumption of what Europe are doing and how they're using 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.120 their cars, it's a lot different to how we use 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.760 our cars. And also what we consider, say a big 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.800 family car, to what Europe considers a big family car. 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.120 A fucking Volkswagen Golf over there is a family car. Yeah. 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.320 The issue is they're parroting all this stuff out of 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.920 Europe and it has absolutely no relation to what we 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.840 do when they go on a road trip over there. Yes, 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.600 they might travel longer distances, but you're traveling across built 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:56.200 up areas, and it makes sense that you need to 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:00.640 not be emitting as much through towns and cities across here. 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.400 If you're traveling longer distances, you're in the middle of nowhere. 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.680 A small vehicle doesn't make any sense. A small vehicle 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:08.640 doesn't toe. A small vehicle doesn't do a lot of 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.240 the things that the Australians that need to travel longer 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.760 distances are doing. So what you're doing now is penalizing 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:16.720 people who need to travel longer distances. In addition to that, 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.480 you then need to have a think about you've got 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.040 people that live in the country that is long distance driving, 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:24.440 but then in the cities you've also got people who 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.200 live further out because they can't afford to live closer 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:28.960 to the city. So these are people that are going 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:31.080 to be traveling longer distances by virtue it. 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.200 In regional towns the fact that they can't afford it. 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:36.360 So I just think that these are all and this 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:39.280 is exactly what we've seen in California right where you've 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:41.920 imposed all of these laws made it very hard to 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.360 buy the car that people actually want, so they're pushing 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:45.320 everyone into evs. 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.280 And what we witnessed over there. 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:50.520 Which will be in the video that's coming out, the 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:54.600 public charging network is an absolute clusterfuck. We were waiting 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.480 hours to get to a charger. When we finally got 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.400 to the charger, the charger was either faulty or slow 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:02.680 because they had so many cars using it, and this 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:06.240 is in a country that has incredible ev uptake. And 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:09.719 according to this report from last year, there are over 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.679 one hundred and thirty thousand public charges across the US, 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.320 which was a forty percent increase over twenty twenty, so 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:17.800 they are increasing. The private sector has also committed more 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:20.560 than one hundred and twenty billion dollars in domestic EV 0:17:20.640 --> 0:17:24.359 and battery investments in the States, and it still isn't 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:27.160 enough at all to cater for the vehicles they're selling 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.720 at the moment. And their uptake of EVS is between 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.919 ten and twenty percent in new car sales, so you 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.560 can just imagine that when that gets hold over here, 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.639 we don't have the infrastructure to support it. If you 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:40.960 don't have charging at home, you have to go and 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:45.160 charge publicly, which is expensive and often doesn't work. So 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.160 I understand what they want to do. I just think 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:50.680 it's far too early for Australia. It's not very well 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:53.320 thought out for the cars that people are buying, and 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:58.000 I guarantee this will cost consumers more. There is absolutely 0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:00.720 no sugarcoding that this will end up losting more money. 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:02.480 And this is an ev aid by the way, at 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:05.280 all by any means. It's I've always said, like, if 0:18:05.640 --> 0:18:07.639 I had sort of a perfect garage and the money, 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.359 my daily commuter would probably be an ev It just 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:11.080 makes more sense. 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.959 But you're in a privileged position to make that happen. Exactly, 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:16.959 a lot of people can't afford a new car, and 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.639 if you can, you can't then afford like a Tesla 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.919 Model White, which is a family car, starts at seventy 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.800 thousand dollars. I just don't understand how they expect a 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:27.840 consumer to go, Okay, well, I was going to buy 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.880 a RAB four, but now I'm being forced into this thing, 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:32.560 which is double the price. 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:37.280 Well, surely hybrids would meet this kind of these Euro 0:18:37.440 --> 0:18:38.920 sixty standards right. 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:41.200 Exactly, And you've seen how much demand there is for those, 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.040 So I don't know, I think that, and even for 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:45.399 a hybrid, if you look at the RAV four that 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:48.080 runs on ninety one rong, so that runs on the 0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.919 dirty fuel that we have. I suspect if they do 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.480 switch to an engine that is capable of these new 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:57.200 emission standards, it is going to be more expensive, and 0:18:57.240 --> 0:18:59.560 that car is ready feel gone up in price anyway. 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:03.040