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Speaker 2: Welcome to the program, the problem program? What's that program?
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Speaker 1: In your mouth to life, that's a lie. Shit's been hectic,
Speaker 1: hasn't it. At the start of the year. I've got love.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm so boring because I've been so busy,
Speaker 1: yet I'm just so bored at the same time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's just nothing, nothing great. That's a lot of exciting
Speaker 1: stuff coming up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's the feedback I get from people who
Speaker 2: listen to your radio.
Speaker 1: Shit, that's the feedback I get from your wife. You're
Speaker 1: that you're very boring. She's like, he whispers, engineering things
Speaker 1: in the throes of passion.
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Speaker 1: You just whispers the weirdest inane thing. How good is
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Speaker 1: It's a song by smash Mouth. You just come back
Speaker 1: from the world's newest third world country, Los Angeles. That
Speaker 1: is so true. What a hole? Yeah?
Speaker 2: For how woke California is?
Speaker 4: It is?
Speaker 2: It is a grim place at the moment.
Speaker 4: So I was over there and we'll chat about this
Speaker 4: shortly in the States to talk to drive the new
Speaker 4: Lexus GX. But after that drive, I went to Los
Speaker 4: Angeles to film some extra content. And while Arizona, where
Speaker 4: we went for GX, is absolutely stunning, amazing, and you know,
Speaker 4: it's just cool.
Speaker 2: It's just a cool spot.
Speaker 4: Los Angeles has really just descended into San Francisco.
Speaker 2: My goodness, that is a joint you did not want
Speaker 2: to go near.
Speaker 1: So it's the mecca for the holy homeless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but just very quickly.
Speaker 4: It is sad what it has become because not only
Speaker 4: is it very expensive, and that is just for a
Speaker 4: US resident. It is very very expensive if you're going
Speaker 4: there as an Australian because that dollar sucks. But if
Speaker 4: you're over there and you don't have a job or
Speaker 4: you don't really own much money. I just don't understand
Speaker 4: how anyone's surviving. And you can see why there are
Speaker 4: so many homeless people, but they just keep jacking the cost.
Speaker 2: Of everything up.
Speaker 4: They're pushing everyone into these expensive evs like it is
Speaker 4: just a bit of a disaster.
Speaker 1: So Webby, what always sort of like throws me is
Speaker 1: in different states in America, there's different tax laws and
Speaker 1: different healthcare systems as well. So if you live in Texas,
Speaker 1: for instance, you kind of can get a better deal
Speaker 1: on things like medical and tax benefits and stuff like
Speaker 1: that where he's in La Oh Jesus.
Speaker 2: But it's even down to stuff like fuel.
Speaker 4: So in Phoenix, we were staying just outside Phoenix, fuel
Speaker 4: was like two dollars eighty US a gallon. In Los
Speaker 4: Angeles it was closer to five dollars a gallon. So
Speaker 4: I just I really don't understand how you can have
Speaker 4: such a discrepancy when this joint is, you know, one
Speaker 4: thousand kilometers away here at least you know it is
Speaker 4: similar in terms of fuel. It's not going to be
Speaker 4: dollars of difference. So yeah, I just think it's it's
Speaker 4: a bit of a broken country at the moment, So
Speaker 4: I'll be interested to see how they fix all of that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's not not a good situation.
Speaker 1: I've been divided for a long time too, and I
Speaker 1: don't think it hasn't gotten better at all. Despite whether
Speaker 1: you're a Trump guy, whether you're a who's the sleepy
Speaker 1: old man, the demension guy Joe Biden, whether you're a
Speaker 1: Biden guy, I'm.
Speaker 2: Waiting for that guy.
Speaker 1: It's just like die mid press conference.
Speaker 2: He genuinely has no idea where he is.
Speaker 4: They got him the other day because this is two
Speaker 4: into a politics podcast, but I watched a feverit and
Speaker 4: news while I was over there. They got him for
Speaker 4: hoarding classified documents, which is exactly what they got Trump for,
Speaker 4: and one of the people that was investigating said something
Speaker 4: along the lines of.
Speaker 2: He's a well meaning elderly man with a bad memory.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, you've just said that about your president,
Speaker 2: and one of the guys in the way are Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just craped my pants.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 4: So yeah, we'll talk more about the LEXUSJX shortly, and
Speaker 4: I might even I'll touch on it now. Just some
Speaker 4: of the stuff that we did outside of the GX
Speaker 4: launch in Los Angeles. We drove the Twitter rad Fall Prime,
Speaker 4: which is fantastic. So that's basically the rad Fall that
Speaker 4: we get, but it's a plug in hybrid and it
Speaker 4: does zero to one hundred and under six seconds.
Speaker 1: She is phenomenal, tchnique.
Speaker 4: Really efficient, very easy to manage and drive. We also
Speaker 4: drove the Keya Tell You Ride the x Pro, which
Speaker 4: is the off road version on All Terrains.
Speaker 2: Almost got shot by a lady.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: I just presumed I was where it was going to
Speaker 2: escalate that this was American American dotter pretty much.
Speaker 4: She came and started yelling at us for using the
Speaker 4: filming on this land that she claimed private America.
Speaker 1: Get on my land, Hey, stop pouring the kids shoes.
Speaker 1: But I asked her, so whose land is it?
Speaker 4: Just because I'll go ask permission if it's not okay,
Speaker 4: because I was genuinely like, well, I don't want to
Speaker 4: film here if it's someone land and she goes, I
Speaker 4: think it's the guy up there, and I said ok
Speaker 4: I said do you have permission to be here?
Speaker 1: Because she was walking her dogs on it.
Speaker 4: And she's like yeah, And I'm like, but you don't
Speaker 4: know who owns the land. So I was like, all right, cool, Like,
Speaker 4: you just look like you probably hit the pipe fairly frequently,
Speaker 4: so I'm just going to get out of here before
Speaker 4: you come back and shoot me.
Speaker 1: I would have asked for a sweet deal.
Speaker 4: But yeah, So I did that and also drove a
Speaker 4: rivianah yeah, yeah, yeah to the suv and that ended
Speaker 4: up being an absolute disaster. When it came to charging
Speaker 4: as part of the review, I thought, let's just shoot
Speaker 4: a bit of content on what it's like to charge
Speaker 4: a car in a state like California that is fully
Speaker 4: into EVS and outside of Norway is one of the
Speaker 4: more progressive sort of electric feed They kind.
Speaker 1: Of led the way with that sort of stuff. They
Speaker 1: really championed it.
Speaker 4: And I genuinely thought it was just going to be
Speaker 4: like a five minute video and everything was going to
Speaker 4: be great. It ended up being an absolute saga. It
Speaker 4: took us so long to actually charge this car, as in,
Speaker 4: find a charger that wasn't that didn't have a queue
Speaker 4: of ten fifteen cars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was incredible watching that footage, unbelievable. I was
Speaker 1: blown away.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'll have a video on that. Will chat
Speaker 4: about that in a bit more detail later.
Speaker 1: All Right, We thought we should talk about emissions laws.
Speaker 1: Do you want to start with that? Do you want
Speaker 1: to talk about emissions laws? Because they're sort of coming
Speaker 1: up and a few things have been and now it's
Speaker 1: now I'm going to go through my dumbass kind of
Speaker 1: understanding of this and then you can throw me over
Speaker 1: the coals and just tell me where I'm kind of right,
Speaker 1: because basically all wrong, Yeah, all right, all wrong, very
Speaker 1: much wrong. So Paul wanted to bring up emissions standards,
Speaker 1: and so I thought to myself, here we go. He's
Speaker 1: going to have like a little Pavais moment of I'm
Speaker 1: going to have an editorial. From what I can understand
Speaker 1: is you lower emissions, you lower the carbon footprint. Right now,
Speaker 1: Europe has been, I guess, leading the way on this.
Speaker 1: They kind of change the game when it comes to
Speaker 1: emissions full stop. And that includes the current industry. So
Speaker 1: the difference between Europe and Australia is Europe is very
Speaker 1: much mandated by laws. Australia is, well, we have these
Speaker 1: things called voluntary emissions targets. Now, from what I can
Speaker 1: get is we're not really accountable to even hit these
Speaker 1: targets at all. And I think in the last three years,
Speaker 1: we haven't. I think it's gotten worse. So we sell
Speaker 1: heaps of view, heaps of four wheel drives. The one
Speaker 1: thing I will say is when it comes to what
Speaker 1: causes high emissions, so Australia has really dirty fuel on
Speaker 1: the world market, on the world sort of scheme of
Speaker 1: it all, we've got dirty fuel which they're fixing. Well, yes,
Speaker 1: that's kind of part of this whole thing. So we
Speaker 1: love our utes, we love our four wheel drives, and
Speaker 1: so this is going to make it tougher when it
Speaker 1: comes to new laws coming into force. What exactly was
Speaker 1: announced this week, I'm a bit confused at So all
Speaker 1: new cars, SUVs, light commercial vehicles, basically anything that's introduced
Speaker 1: in Australia in September next year, so that's twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five has to go by the new Euro six D standard.
Speaker 1: Previous existing models will have to hit that by twenty
Speaker 1: twenty eight. And that's to comply. Half the current models
Speaker 1: we've got on sale right now are Euro five So
Speaker 1: Euro six D is even stricter. Yep. With that, you
Speaker 1: don't just consider the type of car, You've got to
Speaker 1: consider the type of petrol that's going into it. Now,
Speaker 1: this is the weird thing. This is what I couldn't
Speaker 1: quite get, which you can get to in a second.
Speaker 1: But I know that we're going to be reducing the
Speaker 1: amount of sultware in our petrol, and I think this
Speaker 1: seems like it's going to be affecting octane ninety five.
Speaker 4: So yeah, basically, and ninety one is the worst defender
Speaker 4: at the moment. If you look at ninety one rong
Speaker 4: fuel that we have in Australia, it is amongst the
Speaker 4: worst in the world for sulfur content, and that is
Speaker 4: why a lot of modern engines require ninety five or
Speaker 4: ninety eight ROND fuel to run.
Speaker 2: So a lot of European vehicles that are sold in.
Speaker 4: Australia have minimums because if you feed at ninety one
Speaker 4: it will basically destroy the engine. So yeah, that that
Speaker 4: is what they're looking at fixing. And they already fixed diesel.
Speaker 4: So the sulfur content in diesel is now sort of
Speaker 4: in amongst first world countries, but our unleaded fuel is
Speaker 4: amongst the worst in the world, and that's what they're
Speaker 4: looking at fixing.
Speaker 2: That's also the.
Speaker 4: One that they claim will only increase the cost of
Speaker 4: fuel by a cent or two cents a lead, which
Speaker 4: I just think is absolute nonsense.
Speaker 2: It'll be much more than that.
Speaker 1: So this is and that includes taking sulfur and stuff
Speaker 1: like that at or the rubbish.
Speaker 4: Ye.
Speaker 1: So basically what this I feel like, what this is
Speaker 1: going to sort of packed is things like youtes heavy
Speaker 1: duty kind of commercial vehicles, utes apparently like Niche sports cars.
Speaker 1: I don't know what falls under Niche sports cars by
Speaker 1: the way, because yeah, anyway, it depends what you go with.
Speaker 1: But apparently some budget hashback models as well. Yep, so
Speaker 1: that don't really have the Euro six dy variants. That's
Speaker 1: sort of a big question will they survive? But yeah,
Speaker 1: where am I at with that? Good?
Speaker 2: Okay, now just give you one sect of triple checks,
Speaker 2: I think. So that's all sort of pretty much there.
Speaker 2: Just the sort of nuances of it.
Speaker 4: The way that it will work is manufacturers will have
Speaker 4: limits per vehicle that they have to meet. So this
Speaker 4: is average CO two emissions per kilometer across their vehicle fleets.
Speaker 4: So if you think of let's say Ford for example,
Speaker 4: and you've got all of the vehicles that they sell,
Speaker 4: basically they're going to say that let's say your limit
Speaker 4: is two hundred grams per kilometer or something like that.
Speaker 2: There's plucking that out of thin air.
Speaker 4: If their average sales mainly rangeer in Everest, which they are,
Speaker 4: what they'll need to do is basically figure out what
Speaker 4: amount above that average they're contributing to the environment for
Speaker 4: the vehicles that they sell, and then they will be
Speaker 4: penalized for that.
Speaker 1: So would they be inclined to be interested because they
Speaker 1: don't really just said they don't really have many evs.
Speaker 1: They've got the here in Australia, they've got the Mark three,
Speaker 1: the Mustang Mark three. I think they've got like some
Speaker 1: sort of a transit van too. Does that mean I
Speaker 1: know they're working on like a small EV, but does
Speaker 1: that mean they'll be introducing more hybrids and evs?
Speaker 4: Well, exactly because logically you don't want to be paying
Speaker 4: these fines. But what happens then, and this is what's
Speaker 4: happened in Europe as well, car companies like Tesla that
Speaker 4: only make electric vehicles will get credits. So what you
Speaker 4: can then do is sell your credits to another car company,
Speaker 4: so Forward can buy credits from Tesla as they're fine.
Speaker 4: And this is how Tesla built its factory in Europe
Speaker 4: they basically had Alfa Romeo or the Stalantes group paying
Speaker 4: their credits to Tesla. Then Tesla used that money to
Speaker 4: create a factory. So that is the sort of gist
Speaker 4: of how it's going to work. Now, there are a
Speaker 4: number of problems with this though, So.
Speaker 1: One thing I will say is who created that rule?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this is what they're doing to try
Speaker 4: and get people into cleaner vehicles, which I get it,
Speaker 4: it makes sense, but to put it into context, passenger
Speaker 4: cars and light commercial vehicles only contribute around ten percent
Speaker 4: a little bit more than ten percent of Australia's total emissions.
Speaker 4: So they are focusing very heavily on this one industry
Speaker 4: and it doesn't seem they're putting much effort into anything else.
Speaker 4: So the problem with this is that at the moment,
Speaker 4: you really don't have the ability for people to buy
Speaker 4: the vehicles that they need to be able to meet
Speaker 4: this requirement. Putting this in from twenty twenty five, if
Speaker 4: you're a tradee there is not an electric ute. Well
Speaker 4: there is an electric ute, but it's rubbish. It's the LDV.
Speaker 4: So you're saying to them, okay, well, now you're forcing
Speaker 4: a car company to go Okay, well we're going to
Speaker 4: increase the price of this car because a car company
Speaker 4: isn't just going to take up all those costs. They're
Speaker 4: going to pass them on to the.
Speaker 1: Consumerw okay, so and they'll use that I mean that
Speaker 1: extra cost is credits right.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean they're passing it on.
Speaker 4: There's no way a car company is going to go, okay,
Speaker 4: well we'll just absorb the cost of all this and
Speaker 4: just continue selling cars. They'll either withdraw a car from
Speaker 4: sale if they don't have a better engine, or alternatively,
Speaker 4: they will charge more for the car knowing that it's
Speaker 4: the only engine they have available. And you, as as
Speaker 4: a person in Australia that is buying a car, are
Speaker 4: either going to be forced buy an expensive EV which
Speaker 4: is what they are at the moment compared to internal combustion.
Speaker 2: Cars, or alternatively, you're.
Speaker 4: Going to have to pay more for an internal combustion
Speaker 4: car that doesn't meet these requirements. Now, the counter to
Speaker 4: that is that these car companies sell vehicles like the
Speaker 4: Ranger and the high Lux in countries that already have
Speaker 4: these requirements. So there are engines they already produce in
Speaker 4: other countries that meet these requirements. They will eventually bring
Speaker 4: those two Australia because obviously they don't want.
Speaker 2: To be fine.
Speaker 4: But the extra cost of all of that is going
Speaker 4: to get passed on to the consumers. So where they
Speaker 4: say here that Australians will save around thousand dollars per
Speaker 4: vehicle per year in fuel costs, who's saying that the
Speaker 4: government is absolute bullshit. There is no way it is
Speaker 4: going to I mean, these engines, yes, they are more efficient,
Speaker 4: but they're not going to save your thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 4: Then they further go on to claim that the average
Speaker 4: new vehicle purchase purchaser in twenty twenty eight claim to
Speaker 4: be looking at a saving of five seven hundred and
Speaker 4: ten over five years. It is absolute nonsense. There is
Speaker 4: no way you are going to be saving that much
Speaker 4: more fuel. In addition to that, the extra cost of
Speaker 4: the vehicle, which is going to be passed on to
Speaker 4: you as a consumer, is not going to offset the
Speaker 4: fuel saving either. So I just think that it's a
Speaker 4: great idea. Yes, we need to make the automotive industry greener,
Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera, but at the moment, you don't
Speaker 4: have vehicles for sale that are suitable for this if
Speaker 4: you have a look at what Australians are buying, which
Speaker 4: is utes and SUVs, and if you have a look
Speaker 4: in the States as well. I mean their biggest seller
Speaker 4: is the fine fifty huge, an enormous vehicle.
Speaker 1: It's weird too because you're looking at I know this
Speaker 1: sounds like a really basic thing to say, but I'm
Speaker 1: used to it now. When you look at like the
Speaker 1: consumption of what Europe are doing and how they're using
Speaker 1: their cars, it's a lot different to how we use
Speaker 1: our cars. And also what we consider, say a big
Speaker 1: family car, to what Europe considers a big family car.
Speaker 1: A fucking Volkswagen Golf over there is a family car. Yeah.
Speaker 4: The issue is they're parroting all this stuff out of
Speaker 4: Europe and it has absolutely no relation to what we
Speaker 4: do when they go on a road trip over there. Yes,
Speaker 4: they might travel longer distances, but you're traveling across built
Speaker 4: up areas, and it makes sense that you need to
Speaker 4: not be emitting as much through towns and cities across here.
Speaker 4: If you're traveling longer distances, you're in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 4: A small vehicle doesn't make any sense. A small vehicle
Speaker 4: doesn't toe. A small vehicle doesn't do a lot of
Speaker 4: the things that the Australians that need to travel longer
Speaker 4: distances are doing. So what you're doing now is penalizing
Speaker 4: people who need to travel longer distances. In addition to that,
Speaker 4: you then need to have a think about you've got
Speaker 4: people that live in the country that is long distance driving,
Speaker 4: but then in the cities you've also got people who
Speaker 4: live further out because they can't afford to live closer
Speaker 4: to the city. So these are people that are going
Speaker 4: to be traveling longer distances by virtue it.
Speaker 1: In regional towns the fact that they can't afford it.
Speaker 4: So I just think that these are all and this
Speaker 4: is exactly what we've seen in California right where you've
Speaker 4: imposed all of these laws made it very hard to
Speaker 4: buy the car that people actually want, so they're pushing
Speaker 4: everyone into evs.
Speaker 2: And what we witnessed over there.
Speaker 4: Which will be in the video that's coming out, the
Speaker 4: public charging network is an absolute clusterfuck. We were waiting
Speaker 4: hours to get to a charger. When we finally got
Speaker 4: to the charger, the charger was either faulty or slow
Speaker 4: because they had so many cars using it, and this
Speaker 4: is in a country that has incredible ev uptake. And
Speaker 4: according to this report from last year, there are over
Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty thousand public charges across the US,
Speaker 4: which was a forty percent increase over twenty twenty, so
Speaker 4: they are increasing. The private sector has also committed more
Speaker 4: than one hundred and twenty billion dollars in domestic EV
Speaker 4: and battery investments in the States, and it still isn't
Speaker 4: enough at all to cater for the vehicles they're selling
Speaker 4: at the moment. And their uptake of EVS is between
Speaker 4: ten and twenty percent in new car sales, so you
Speaker 4: can just imagine that when that gets hold over here,
Speaker 4: we don't have the infrastructure to support it. If you
Speaker 4: don't have charging at home, you have to go and
Speaker 4: charge publicly, which is expensive and often doesn't work. So
Speaker 4: I understand what they want to do. I just think
Speaker 4: it's far too early for Australia. It's not very well
Speaker 4: thought out for the cars that people are buying, and
Speaker 4: I guarantee this will cost consumers more. There is absolutely
Speaker 4: no sugarcoding that this will end up losting more money.
Speaker 1: And this is an ev aid by the way, at
Speaker 1: all by any means. It's I've always said, like, if
Speaker 1: I had sort of a perfect garage and the money,
Speaker 1: my daily commuter would probably be an ev It just
Speaker 1: makes more sense.
Speaker 4: But you're in a privileged position to make that happen. Exactly,
Speaker 4: a lot of people can't afford a new car, and
Speaker 4: if you can, you can't then afford like a Tesla
Speaker 4: Model White, which is a family car, starts at seventy
Speaker 4: thousand dollars. I just don't understand how they expect a
Speaker 4: consumer to go, Okay, well, I was going to buy
Speaker 4: a RAB four, but now I'm being forced into this thing,
Speaker 4: which is double the price.
Speaker 1: Well, surely hybrids would meet this kind of these Euro
Speaker 1: sixty standards right.
Speaker 4: Exactly, And you've seen how much demand there is for those,
Speaker 4: So I don't know, I think that, and even for
Speaker 4: a hybrid, if you look at the RAV four that
Speaker 4: runs on ninety one rong, so that runs on the
Speaker 4: dirty fuel that we have. I suspect if they do
Speaker 4: switch to an engine that is capable of these new
Speaker 4: emission standards, it is going to be more expensive, and
Speaker 4: that car is ready feel gone up in price anyway.
Speaker 1: But wait times as well, because I know I think Toyota.
Speaker 1: I read some way at Toyota is slowing down their
Speaker 1: production as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I just think that it will be interesting
Speaker 4: to see how this goes.
Speaker 2: For people who are privileged enough.
Speaker 4: To be able to afford a new car and a
Speaker 4: privileged enough to also be able to afford a more
Speaker 4: expensive new car because of this, or an electric car,
Speaker 4: I don't think they'll probably care all that much. But
Speaker 4: what is coming around the corner is fuel subsidy disappearing
Speaker 4: and people getting charged per kilometer, And I think also
Speaker 4: around the corner will be the removal of subsidies for evs.
Speaker 4: At the moment, there's been a huge groundswell for fleets
Speaker 4: and people who are in jobs that allow them to
Speaker 4: have an ovated lease rushing into evs. That we've seen
Speaker 4: the second hand market tanking for evs because no one
Speaker 4: wants to buy them secondhand. So I think that once
Speaker 4: subsidies are removed, you're going to see the real state.
Speaker 4: And that's what's happening in Europe at the moment. Subsidy
Speaker 4: is getting removed everywhere and the private consumer is not
Speaker 4: buying as many of these as they were previously because
Speaker 4: the subsidies are.
Speaker 2: Gone, So yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
Speaker 2: And you know, I do feel for the people who
Speaker 2: can't afford to keep up with all of this stuff
Speaker 2: because it looks great on paper, but if you go
Speaker 2: to the average Australian, it's going to end up costing
Speaker 2: them more.
Speaker 1: I think we'll get better quality fuel, we'll get cleaner fuel,
Speaker 1: for sure. Obviously, hopefully your raptor will disintegrate and burn
Speaker 1: down a cliff.
Speaker 4: That will be leaving my hands at a time soon.
Speaker 4: But I do agree. In the cities, like I used
Speaker 4: to when our office was sort of near my place,
Speaker 4: so used to walk to work and the thing I
Speaker 4: hated the most was walking down Kingsway.
Speaker 2: Walking And I did hate that. That was the first
Speaker 2: thing I had Jesus.
Speaker 1: It sounded like a fat man squashing grapes. It was
Speaker 1: just your man, but was slapping away.
Speaker 4: But walking down Kingsway, which is a four lane busy
Speaker 4: commute into the city, it would be hard to breathe
Speaker 4: because you had trucks.
Speaker 2: And cars and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I totally agree that we need to be
Speaker 4: stopping the shit that's spewing out of these cars in
Speaker 4: city one hundred percent, So totally get it. I just
Speaker 4: don't know that this is the correct way to be
Speaker 4: going about it.
Speaker 1: I wonder if, come late this year early next year,
Speaker 1: if a lot of dealerships will be slashing the price
Speaker 1: of their cars because they don't want them on the
Speaker 1: showroom floor in a sense, because what they've got to
Speaker 1: do is they don't meet Euro sixty standards. They're going
Speaker 1: to have to somehow comply because it's not really going
Speaker 1: to affect people who are you know, already driving around
Speaker 1: in a you know, nineteen ninety two high lux or
Speaker 1: something like that. They'll just continue doing that. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: will just continue doing that, but.
Speaker 4: It won't be like overnight, ye near to go sell
Speaker 4: your car. But if you do want a new car,
Speaker 4: you're going to have limited options compared to what we
Speaker 4: have now, and those options that you do get will
Speaker 4: be more expensive.
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel as bad as it sounds. I just
Speaker 1: can't imagine that.
Speaker 2: It doesn't right now.
Speaker 4: Yes, just wait until you see the cost increase of
Speaker 4: these cars. And if you're one of the unfortunate people
Speaker 4: that buys an ev without home charging, just you see
Speaker 4: what's happening in the US happen here where you just
Speaker 4: cannot charge the car.
Speaker 1: What we saw during COVID that people are willing to
Speaker 1: pay a shitload for above what a car is worth
Speaker 1: and wait out far longer than what a car is
Speaker 1: worth waiting for.
Speaker 4: That was when interest rates were nothing. Now with the
Speaker 4: cost of living, and it's going to take a while
Speaker 4: to fix this cost of living issue. Even if they
Speaker 4: reduce interest rates, you still have products that are very expensive.
Speaker 4: And if you look at what's happening in the States,
Speaker 4: we spoke about this off air. I was shocked that
Speaker 4: a meal at McDonald's. So this was literally sausage and
Speaker 4: ek McMuffin, hash brown and a coffee, two of those,
Speaker 4: which is what we ordered when we were heading out
Speaker 4: to do some filming, thirty six Australian dollars.
Speaker 1: Which, by the way, Paul says, that's for two people.
Speaker 1: Paul actually put all that food between two pieces of
Speaker 1: bread and ate it like a sandwich.
Speaker 2: There was no one else there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was no one else there.
Speaker 4: But this is what I'm saying. It's that's what's happening
Speaker 4: in the States at the moment. So you just wait
Speaker 4: till that happens here here at the moment. Fuel is
Speaker 4: very cheap. A lot of the stuff we have is
Speaker 4: very cheap, so, but it's also expensive.
Speaker 1: Like everyone's well starting to Yeah, people are starting to
Speaker 1: rave on about and starting to catch on about. Hey,
Speaker 1: forty bucks fifty bucks down at my local Woolworths or whatever.
Speaker 1: Used to be like half a shop for the week
Speaker 1: or a quarter of a shop. Now it's just like
Speaker 1: getting the overnight basics.
Speaker 2: It gets you the dishwasher tablets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and these guys, and by the way, these guys
Speaker 1: are now pulling in record profits like never before.
Speaker 4: The same with all the electricity companies. Yeah, so everyone's
Speaker 4: making money.
Speaker 1: Except there's greed there. Yeah. Speaking of the ev market,
Speaker 1: the Evy game, the successor to the was it. The
Speaker 1: I eight, which is called the I sixteen was looking promising,
Speaker 1: It was looking great. It was like we got a
Speaker 1: glimpse of it, and then things got a bit who
Speaker 1: hard during COVID tough times, and then they've pulled the
Speaker 1: pin on the whole project, which we're just looking at
Speaker 1: this right now. This God, this is a great looking car.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, look, I think so obviously I sixteen
Speaker 4: is I eight times two. But I think that the
Speaker 4: I eight is still a sensational car, and I think
Speaker 4: they're super cheap at the moment of secondhand vehicles, and
Speaker 4: I just love the look of them. They're really fun
Speaker 4: to drive, they're fast, they're just cool.
Speaker 1: And whatever happened to them, by the way, because they
Speaker 1: didn't sell great, they didn't make it. Did they not
Speaker 1: make many?
Speaker 4: They didn't sell great, But it is I stand by it.
Speaker 4: It is still great, a great vehicle to buy today
Speaker 4: because it is just cool.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, holds up this I sixteen just takes it to
Speaker 4: another level. It looks sensational. So basically, the guy that
Speaker 4: designed it, the design chief for the BMW brand, said
Speaker 4: that it was another good kept secret. Prior to becoming
Speaker 4: BMW's design boss, he was the head of design for
Speaker 4: the M division and he basically was deeply involved in this.
Speaker 4: And he said that the outside and the inside were
Speaker 4: totally finished and it was ready to go, but COVID
Speaker 4: hit and they canceled the project, and he didn't divulge
Speaker 4: much more detail. But yeah, just such a good looking car,
Speaker 4: and I do hope that this finally gets another life
Speaker 4: at some point. But they were basically going to recycle
Speaker 4: the body, the sort of composite skin that the I
Speaker 4: eight had, so it didn't need a huge amount of,
Speaker 4: you know, key architectural changes. So I just think it's
Speaker 4: a it's a cool looking thing and unfortunately it'll likely
Speaker 4: never see the light of day.
Speaker 1: The rear looks amazing, like it does look very concepty,
Speaker 1: but one that they could easily pull off, you know,
Speaker 1: the I eight. We saw that in the I eight.
Speaker 1: It was very much what the hell is this? And yeah,
Speaker 1: they brought it out and it's a it's a fantastic
Speaker 1: looking car. I've got Yeah, I've got nothing bad to say.
Speaker 1: The wheels are a crazy call. I'd hope that keep those,
Speaker 1: you know, like the different orange wheels at the back,
Speaker 1: at the rear.
Speaker 2: It just looks bloody awesome. Yeah, absolutely awesome.
Speaker 1: What a shame. Yeah. What else got droop fed to
Speaker 1: us during the week. The R S six GT.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's an interesting one because what Audi is now
Speaker 4: doing is all of their future cars that have even
Speaker 4: numbers are going to be electric, and then the odd
Speaker 4: numbers are going to be not electric. So the RS
Speaker 4: six is going to become an electric vehicle. So this
Speaker 4: is the last time you'll see an RS six that
Speaker 4: is not not sort of fully electric and the GT
Speaker 4: is basically the sign off for that vehicle. They'll do
Speaker 4: six hundred and sixty units in total. Australia is going
Speaker 4: to get about twenty of them, and it has this
Speaker 4: incredible designs that it just looks absolutely bloody unreal. So
Speaker 4: in terms of what is different here, so reworked Audi
Speaker 4: Quatro Sport differential for the rear axle to make it
Speaker 4: a little bit more agile and rear biased, a new
Speaker 4: coil over suspension tune. We don't know pricing just yet
Speaker 4: for Australia, but basically they're saying that it's got a
Speaker 4: higher spring rate, triple adjustable dampers, stiffer stabilizers so it's
Speaker 4: going to be bloody firm, and then ride heights being lowered.
Speaker 4: So they've just gone to absolute town on this.
Speaker 1: The artwork kind of looks great too. I've got nothing
Speaker 1: bad to say about how this car looks. It Just
Speaker 1: the speaker system in it just pops everything. The wheels
Speaker 1: look at that.
Speaker 2: It is a stunner of a thing.
Speaker 4: So yeah, look, I still think this is one of
Speaker 4: the best cars on the market today in terms of
Speaker 4: just an overall performance daily driver. You can drive this
Speaker 4: daily and then when you want to just unleash it,
Speaker 4: it unleashes like it is. It is such a good car.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm a big fan of them.
Speaker 1: Lexus GX. Should we talk let's talk it speaking of
Speaker 1: good looking cars. Wow, we the Lexus GX.
Speaker 2: So let me give you just a bit of a
Speaker 2: background on this car.
Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about the background. Power way,
Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about it.
Speaker 4: So this vehicle sits on a platform called TNGA dash F. Now,
Speaker 4: the reason that's important is because the three hundred series
Speaker 4: land Cruise that sits on the same platform, so does
Speaker 4: the Lexus lex. So the big big suv that's shared
Speaker 4: with the three hundred, now, the new land Cruise a
Speaker 4: Prato is also on TNGAF. So the complication to that
Speaker 4: is that all of these vehicles share the same wheelbase.
Speaker 4: They have slight differences in terms of length, but that's
Speaker 4: just due to the body design. And it then means
Speaker 4: that you've got the same vehicle but different pricing points.
Speaker 4: So the reason that's a bit of a complication is
Speaker 4: that the land Cruise a Prito, which was always under
Speaker 4: the bigger big boy land Creuse are in terms of
Speaker 4: pricing and engines, et cetera, is now the same vehicle
Speaker 4: with the exception of the engine.
Speaker 2: And because you.
Speaker 4: Now have to have four of these, you've got to
Speaker 4: have a land Cruise, a Prito, a GX which is
Speaker 4: the land cruise, a Prato alternative, then.
Speaker 2: A three hundred.
Speaker 4: Three hundred series, and then alexis Lex, yes, which is
Speaker 4: top t You have to have enough differentia between them
Speaker 4: so that you can actually provide value because the guy
Speaker 4: that buying a three hundred series doesn't want the guy
Speaker 4: in the Prado with a V six diesel as well,
Speaker 4: because why would you spend an extra fifty grand and
Speaker 4: a three hundred series.
Speaker 1: Now I said to you before, I was like, so
Speaker 1: what's the difference between the GX and the Alex and
Speaker 1: you gave me a very sly level. Then I pulled
Speaker 1: my pants up.
Speaker 2: So here's here's the issue.
Speaker 4: Right, So this uses the same twin turbo V six
Speaker 4: petrol engine that's in the Lex, except it's detuned.
Speaker 1: Right and so, and then by the way they've taken
Speaker 1: the V eight now is gone right.
Speaker 4: And a bit of background to the GX. This was
Speaker 4: available I think for three generations in the US, and
Speaker 4: the last generation of this was a V eight petrol,
Speaker 4: so look the same as a Prato pretty much, but
Speaker 4: it had a V eight petrol as opposed to the
Speaker 4: POxy four cylinder diesel. It's in the Prato, which it
Speaker 4: will then carry over into this next generation, which is
Speaker 4: just comical.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: So yeah, the GX is I think probably the best
Speaker 4: value you're going to get in terms of luxury, off road,
Speaker 4: K capable, and punchy, so it's got all of those things.
Speaker 1: Still get the V six twin turbo.
Speaker 4: It's not huge money, so we don't know pricing just yet,
Speaker 4: but it'll likely kick off at around one hundred and
Speaker 4: ten thousand before on roads. It's going to come in
Speaker 4: three specs, so it's going to be Luxury, overtrail and sports.
Speaker 4: Luxury overtrail is my favorite. So this is basically their
Speaker 4: off road focused version, comes with all terrains. It's got
Speaker 4: a very sort of aggressive off road. Look, there's a
Speaker 4: color there that's very reminiscent of Sandy Torp, which is
Speaker 4: the seventy series Hero color.
Speaker 1: I think that's the one they're peddling in all media
Speaker 1: at the moment too. That's their big media car.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they've even thought about stuff. So you've got
Speaker 4: integrated TOBAR with brake controllers that comes standard from the factory.
Speaker 4: Down in front of the overtrailer, you've got a section
Speaker 4: that can be removed to install stuff like a winch.
Speaker 4: They've thought about modification because in the States the GX
Speaker 4: is heavily modified by people for off road driving, so
Speaker 4: they wanted to give you one straight out of the box.
Speaker 4: Comes with EKDSS, which is a new version of KDSS
Speaker 4: that's electronic controlled, which gives you really good wheel articulation.
Speaker 2: So on paper, it's great in terms of the way
Speaker 2: that it drives.
Speaker 4: We had a chance to drive this across some of
Speaker 4: the roads in just outside Tucson, and not many corners,
Speaker 4: so I can't really comment on how it handles. But
Speaker 4: the engine is fantastic in a straight line. It's got
Speaker 4: plenty of punch. The interior really nice luxury appointments. Looks
Speaker 4: different to typical Lexus a lot of straight lines.
Speaker 1: Very boxy, isn't it. And I don't have a problem
Speaker 1: with that at all. I think that was my main
Speaker 1: problem with Lexus in the past. I remember when you
Speaker 1: asked me once what do you think of Lexus in general?
Speaker 1: And I said, it just feels like an old man
Speaker 1: chucking the golf clubs in the back of the car.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's changed now. They're really trying to bring that down.
Speaker 1: I think they've achieved that with this too. I think
Speaker 1: they really have it. It's boxy, it's there is nothing
Speaker 1: swoopy that's been carried over from the past, previous models.
Speaker 1: This is it's a beautiful looking car, and it's still
Speaker 1: it's still kind of meaty, you know, it's still aggressive,
Speaker 1: and it does have that off road stance about it.
Speaker 1: It looks like it could still go anywhere. My question
Speaker 1: is this is a lot of these four wheel drives
Speaker 1: go it's a great off road, and they're a bit
Speaker 1: sort of firm or whatever on road or vice versa.
Speaker 1: How's this one going like as an off road and
Speaker 1: on road like package.
Speaker 4: Well, they've got anti roll bars which can be disconnected
Speaker 4: when it's off road automatically. But this overtrail also gets
Speaker 4: adaptive damping, and so does the top speck. The entry
Speaker 4: level on twenties, I thought road, Well, the top speck
Speaker 4: is on twenty two, so I don't know what that's like.
Speaker 4: We didn't get a chance to drive that, but yeah,
Speaker 4: look for and the other complication again is the roads
Speaker 4: were quite smooth where we were. I really need to
Speaker 4: see this in Australia to see what it's like. But
Speaker 4: it did have a couple of negatives though, So that
Speaker 4: has the same issue that the Rounded series has, which
Speaker 4: is the second road doesn't slide, which means you don't
Speaker 4: really get the opportunity to give you third row much room,
Speaker 4: and as a result of that, it's not a great
Speaker 4: spot for adults. You also can't get the overtrail in
Speaker 4: seven seats. They do a six seat configuration as well,
Speaker 4: which again you can't do. The other thing as well
Speaker 4: is that this comes with a four thousand kilo brake
Speaker 4: towing capacity. In the States, the overtrail, we won't get
Speaker 4: that in Australia. I don't think they'll probably bump that
Speaker 4: down to thirty five hundred. So yeah, there's just a
Speaker 4: couple of sort of odd, sort of little bits and
Speaker 4: pieces there. But for the most part, this is actually
Speaker 4: a fantastic vehicle and I'm just really excited to see
Speaker 4: it here. From what I can see, it is going
Speaker 4: to be sold out for a couple of years as
Speaker 4: soon as they launch. So if you are actually interested
Speaker 4: in one of these, I'd be going down and putting
Speaker 4: your money down.
Speaker 1: Lexus is predicted.
Speaker 2: We interviewed the boss of Lexus and he goes, they're
Speaker 2: predicting twenty percent of their sales volume is going to
Speaker 2: be overtrail. I'm like, I don't think so.
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be more like eighty percent,
Speaker 4: which means they would have forward planned two or three
Speaker 4: years ago to order only twenty percent of the allocation
Speaker 4: and overtrail. And if most people are going to be
Speaker 4: buying that, it's going to be sold out virtually straight away.
Speaker 1: That could be a deliberate he could be underselling that deliberately.
Speaker 4: I do hope so, because I think this will be
Speaker 4: incredibly popular and they're just going to have that issue
Speaker 4: where it sells out because the problem they have with
Speaker 4: the Prado, they're only launching that with a carryover effectively
Speaker 4: two point eight leader diesel, and that thing is fairly gutless.
Speaker 4: In the Pridor at the moment, this will be heavier
Speaker 4: and they're putting the same engine in it, So I
Speaker 4: think everyone's going to be rushing in to get this
Speaker 4: as opposed to the Prato. If towing and that sort
Speaker 4: of stuff is important.
Speaker 1: To them, they've got plastic side steps on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: See the concept had rock sliders, which looked unreal. I
Speaker 4: have a feeling rock sliders will be available as an
Speaker 4: option because they have a lot of accessories you can
Speaker 4: get with this. And I did notice those plastic side
Speaker 4: steps out very cheap.
Speaker 1: The Raptor's got like a metal ye a black metal right, Ye.
Speaker 1: That would be better off doing that.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It does look good though, doesn't it. Those those sign
Speaker 1: marrias are almost a little bit FJ cruise, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: square sort of things.
Speaker 2: Can I just also ask for your opinion on this?
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, I would put that away. There's probably a
Speaker 1: cream for that. I'd go see a doctor soon. Did
Speaker 1: you get that off, Donner? What's that?
Speaker 2: I'll say it's similar in color?
Speaker 1: Oh God Jesus.
Speaker 4: But what do you think about my cowboy hat which
Speaker 4: I got in in Scottsdale, fitted for my head and
Speaker 4: accessorized for my head.
Speaker 2: Do you think I'd be okay wearing that in public?
Speaker 1: And many men did? You? Fuck? So, give give us
Speaker 1: another look. We're going to put that on. We're putting
Speaker 1: that up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's broad back mountain ball.
Speaker 1: Did you actually buy that? And has your wife seen that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: She loves it? Does she? Well she saw it last night.
Speaker 2: It was the only thing I was wearing.
Speaker 1: Did she get the last sue out?
Speaker 4: I don't know what that means, but yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: in Scott style, the mini Lau.
Speaker 2: That everyone was wearing. So I brought it back with me.
Speaker 1: Did you did you? You drive the g X with that?
Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 1: Let's just pitch your pool right now. It is a
Speaker 1: little cowboy hard donna next to him, wheel drive, smells
Speaker 1: like a steak and seats burty bad roll you Mirrow.
Speaker 1: Speaking of cool stuff, watch out a little paper, A
Speaker 1: little package for you here, and a lot of it's illegal,
Speaker 1: so please don't talk about this the smoking stuff on
Speaker 1: on the air. But a little little little package from
Speaker 1: our good friends at Machines. Plus. We got some stickers. Yeah, yeah, we.
Speaker 2: Got some stick while on the raptor Yeah.
Speaker 1: Cups.
Speaker 2: Oh nice T shirt as well.
Speaker 1: Your T shirt there you go, triple extra large moo
Speaker 1: moo size just for you.
Speaker 2: I like that. But look at Theseus has been a
Speaker 2: busy boy.
Speaker 1: Gus has been a busy boy, Big ups to Gussie machines.
Speaker 2: Plus these cups look amazing. Yeah that oh black and
Speaker 2: white guys.
Speaker 1: So there's two there, ones for the Sydney Car Expert Office,
Speaker 1: the other ones for the Melbourne one. Put next to
Speaker 1: you go cutting trophies or whatever the fuck you want.
Speaker 2: To clear some room. I've got quite a few of those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's such big achievements.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's got to take a win review you can
Speaker 4: in between getting sued.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so that's that's our latest stuff from machines plots.
Speaker 2: Are we giving some of this away?
Speaker 1: I reckon, we give some away? And there's something I
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about off are okay? Should
Speaker 1: we read some questions? Yeah, let's do it. Oh you
Speaker 1: know what I was going to say. I've been so
Speaker 1: bloody busy. I haven't driven anything. I did sort of
Speaker 1: spend a couple of days in the ConA Hybrid just
Speaker 1: out of interest. It was pretty fun. But I did.
Speaker 1: I did spend some time in seventy nine series actually
Speaker 1: expect out.
Speaker 2: Oh it's actually got some accessories.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh that's got a pie warmer in there. You
Speaker 1: love that.
Speaker 2: It's actually got the fridge.
Speaker 1: It's got the shelving unit. It's got the I think
Speaker 1: it's called a Dahady pop up tent up the top.
Speaker 2: It's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is nice. That's wild, isn't it. It's just
Speaker 1: very nice those dirty life rooms to the big wheels
Speaker 1: on it. I like the color too, Yeah yeah, same,
Speaker 1: that sort of silvery gun metal gray ericons the sweet spot.
Speaker 2: Mind you you can't go past a sandy talk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Probably needs the The front grill is
Speaker 1: going to be redone on that too, like the but I.
Speaker 2: Don't hate that.
Speaker 1: Nah.
Speaker 2: I don't know about the crime though.
Speaker 1: Nah. Well that's good that that particular one's getting that
Speaker 1: ripped off and something brand new. Who was it? That's
Speaker 1: that's the good people that ignite h Q. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you're looking at the new spokesperson.
Speaker 2: Good for they.
Speaker 1: We should read some questions. Oh here we go, all right,
Speaker 1: some some have come through. Where's the sponsors? Well this
Speaker 1: comes from Intrigues Coop. Where's the sponsors? Well, if you
Speaker 1: want to sponsor the show, feel free. We're looking into it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're looking into it. Look in all honesty, I can't
Speaker 1: be but like a lot of people want to talk
Speaker 1: to us about this.
Speaker 2: He had some trademark lawyers who wanted to sponsor the show.
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. How much money was spent with them? Yes,
Speaker 1: by the way, there's another podcast out there with a
Speaker 1: very similar name. If you'd like to buyers. We're clearly
Speaker 1: putting out a better product than you. Will Trevor ever
Speaker 1: come back? No, No, he won't, no fucking way, if
Speaker 1: I have anything to do with it, he will be back. Yes,
Speaker 1: he got off. Do you know what, though, he'll be
Speaker 1: back in the sense that like we'll rock up to
Speaker 1: record one of these and he'll be Holy guys, there's money.
Speaker 5: I've just come back from CCS and the complain and
Speaker 5: bloody poling or.
Speaker 1: What did he show off the other day? Something ridiculous?
Speaker 1: Do you know what I want to ask Trevor about
Speaker 1: the artist who we've spoken about before? Will I Am?
Speaker 1: Was that? That is it cs CSC Yes, and launched
Speaker 1: an app and it's I can't remember what it's called.
Speaker 1: It's called like drivers sound, which, by the way, will
Speaker 1: I Am Drivers We own that word, so what will
Speaker 1: be fucking yeah?
Speaker 2: And someone owns the other word, Yeah, someone owns the
Speaker 2: word word.
Speaker 1: So it's basically it's an app and they did it
Speaker 1: in the Mercedes EV And the way you drive kind
Speaker 1: of collaborate, like talks to the sound of the car,
Speaker 1: not like engine and stuff. It's like dance music or whatever.
Speaker 1: Will go like if you're turning a corner real really
Speaker 1: quickly when you accelerate out like.
Speaker 2: It's this sounds very annoying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so this one this question. If you had
Speaker 1: to pick one car to drive for the rest of
Speaker 1: your life, what would it be? I'll drive the you go?
Speaker 1: What would you drive? No, you go? What would you drive?
Speaker 2: Just leave the jokes to me Champ?
Speaker 1: Sorry, of course, good question.
Speaker 4: I reckon an RS six an R It would just
Speaker 4: be the ultimate. It's good for family, good for going fast,
Speaker 4: and just good for all sorts of fun stuff.
Speaker 1: Is that the wagon?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah? When are the Epps going up on YouTube? Slash
Speaker 1: you porn? Wow? We do need to start checking these
Speaker 1: up on YouTube to be honest. It's got to happen.
Speaker 1: It's just made it just fucking time. What do you
Speaker 1: people think I do.
Speaker 2: Just social media? Got to do it?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that guy? What are the best cars you've
Speaker 1: driven that immediately made you want to buy one?
Speaker 2: I bought two. The Supra. I drove that and I
Speaker 2: thought I want to buy one, and then the Raptor
Speaker 2: as well, drive that, and thought, yeah, I'm going to
Speaker 2: buy one.
Speaker 1: Actually, you didn't even drive the model the model, y
Speaker 1: you just bought that, correct? Yeah, that was for my
Speaker 1: wife pretty much. Yeah, G two three rs. But then
Speaker 1: I realized I couldn't buy one. Yeah, if that means
Speaker 1: the mission laws, what's that? Yeah, I wonder if that
Speaker 1: falls under specific sports cars like niche sports cars. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you had to pick one car to drive for
Speaker 1: the rest of your life, yeah, fuck, I'd probably just
Speaker 1: pick an old nine to eleven. Yeah. We had a
Speaker 1: lot of requests for people to bring your stalker on
Speaker 1: the pod. Which one, Well, Donna, this one is the
Speaker 1: one that I fucking love this.
Speaker 5: Ah, this is so good that Paul Marinarus source Marrick
Speaker 5: flog by the way, look, I know this is a
Speaker 5: guy that's been giving you a ship, but credit where
Speaker 5: credits due, Marinara Sauce.
Speaker 1: Marrick is one of the funniest I've heard.
Speaker 3: And his little pussy hum a drag queen chariot. That's
Speaker 3: so good. Did you see where's the King of the
Speaker 3: Belenz Peeni Paul should be pussy Paul.
Speaker 4: But anyway, but then I did google his name, yeah,
Speaker 4: her name, and did you see what came up?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: God, let me show you.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, I'm going to read this out. So
Speaker 1: someone's been, someone's been what do you call it? Hating
Speaker 1: on you, patrol or whatever? So where's that Paul Marinara
Speaker 1: Marck flog in his little pussy hummer drag queen chariot
Speaker 1: give us a kiss? Love? And then where's the king
Speaker 1: of balleens Peenie Paul bagtorship Canning Toyota? Again? Are we
Speaker 1: you stay snuggled up with your man in your butt
Speaker 1: plug raptor? I've always said that car probably needs a
Speaker 1: bonus butt plug? Uh? Where where's fist and Marrick, biggest
Speaker 1: fucking crook liar under the sun bed. He's in his
Speaker 1: homo raptor playing doctors and nurses with qui. Okay, this
Speaker 1: guy is proper. What is it with him and gay people?
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus Christ, he looks destest ship. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's a woman. It's a man turned woman. Can I
Speaker 1: talk about this? Okay? So how bearded overweight Matthew Avery
Speaker 1: din became a beautiful, full blonde Sona. So the guy,
Speaker 1: oh okay, so the guy who's been rubbishing Marinara Marrick
Speaker 1: over here and saying all this like, go back in
Speaker 1: your home, ohammer Is was a beautiful bearded man with
Speaker 1: some sort of hobo and he was slash.
Speaker 2: She became beautiful.
Speaker 1: Well, hang on, I would say that beard is beautiful.
Speaker 1: It's lovely. So he had quite a bushy, fucking pew
Speaker 1: patch going on, and then he became a beautiful blonde
Speaker 1: called Sona. And I tell you what, not half bad.
Speaker 1: I'd go, eh, I know you would, you definitely would.
Speaker 1: You'd wear the cowboy hat for her. Sure, Holy Jesus,
Speaker 1: he's made quite the transformation, hasn't he.
Speaker 2: I'm fairly certain that that is the same person. So
Speaker 2: there you go.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why, Sona, Matthew whatever, reach out and
Speaker 1: I'll send you some driver's show merchant and naked photo
Speaker 1: of Pavlo and his address.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That was that. What a fun episode. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: serious and it was sort of It was very serious.
Speaker 1: This is what happens when I do research. Not a
Speaker 1: good idea. So Trevor is probably going to be on
Speaker 1: the next one. We're working on a few things. And
Speaker 1: by the way, there is a merch drop. It is
Speaker 1: going to happen. I know we're going to be getting
Speaker 1: any where. We're talking air freshners. Now we're talking t shirts.
Speaker 1: Let's talk off air, because I want to know what
Speaker 1: you I've got an idea about this situation. I just
Speaker 1: just want to run it past you. If not, we'll
Speaker 1: just fucking give.
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Speaker 1: On the I g Yeah, there you go, let us
Speaker 1: there you go. You're getting better with that. It used
Speaker 1: to be hit us up on the social media. Guys.
Speaker 1: He's getting caught on now he's got his fucking heart.
Speaker 1: Give us your hang on. I'm gonna put some I'm
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Speaker 2: Audi, Gordy.
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, because that'll throw the scent of
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