1 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: Do you want to have a guard doing the intro 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: like the theme music's rolling? Do you want to kind of. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 2: Welcome to the program, the problem program? What's that program? 4 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: Oh? 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: Go grab? 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: Do you want to have another guy doing the intro? 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show? Jesus Christ, this is why you 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: don't do it? How are you? 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 3: Yeah? 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: Great, so much better now. 11 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure this banana bread's going down to treat. 12 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for buying that for me. That's all right, 13 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: thanks to the left. That's the first sweet thing I've 14 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: had for a few weeks. 15 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: In your mouth to life, that's a lie. Shit's been hectic, 16 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: hasn't it. At the start of the year. I've got love. 17 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm so boring because I've been so busy, 18 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: yet I'm just so bored at the same time. Yeah, 19 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,919 Speaker 1: there's just nothing, nothing great. That's a lot of exciting 20 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: stuff coming up. 21 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's the feedback I get from people who 22 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: listen to your radio. 23 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: Shit, that's the feedback I get from your wife. You're 24 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,559 Speaker 1: that you're very boring. She's like, he whispers, engineering things 25 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: in the throes of passion. 26 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: It's okay. Do you want a square roon? 27 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: You just whispers the weirdest inane thing. How good is 28 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: the miracle of flight? China the Chinese Chicken? What nothing? 29 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: It's a song by smash Mouth. You just come back 30 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: from the world's newest third world country, Los Angeles. That 31 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: is so true. What a hole? Yeah? 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: For how woke California is? 33 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 4: It is? 34 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: It is a grim place at the moment. 35 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 4: So I was over there and we'll chat about this 36 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: shortly in the States to talk to drive the new 37 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 4: Lexus GX. But after that drive, I went to Los 38 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: Angeles to film some extra content. And while Arizona, where 39 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 4: we went for GX, is absolutely stunning, amazing, and you know, 40 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 4: it's just cool. 41 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: It's just a cool spot. 42 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 4: Los Angeles has really just descended into San Francisco. 43 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: My goodness, that is a joint you did not want 44 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: to go near. 45 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: So it's the mecca for the holy homeless. 46 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, but just very quickly. 47 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 4: It is sad what it has become because not only 48 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 4: is it very expensive, and that is just for a 49 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 4: US resident. It is very very expensive if you're going 50 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 4: there as an Australian because that dollar sucks. But if 51 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 4: you're over there and you don't have a job or 52 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 4: you don't really own much money. I just don't understand 53 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 4: how anyone's surviving. And you can see why there are 54 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 4: so many homeless people, but they just keep jacking the cost. 55 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: Of everything up. 56 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 4: They're pushing everyone into these expensive evs like it is 57 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 4: just a bit of a disaster. 58 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: So Webby, what always sort of like throws me is 59 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: in different states in America, there's different tax laws and 60 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: different healthcare systems as well. So if you live in Texas, 61 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 1: for instance, you kind of can get a better deal 62 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: on things like medical and tax benefits and stuff like 63 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,399 Speaker 1: that where he's in La Oh Jesus. 64 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: But it's even down to stuff like fuel. 65 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 4: So in Phoenix, we were staying just outside Phoenix, fuel 66 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 4: was like two dollars eighty US a gallon. In Los 67 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 4: Angeles it was closer to five dollars a gallon. So 68 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 4: I just I really don't understand how you can have 69 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 4: such a discrepancy when this joint is, you know, one 70 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 4: thousand kilometers away here at least you know it is 71 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 4: similar in terms of fuel. It's not going to be 72 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 4: dollars of difference. So yeah, I just think it's it's 73 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 4: a bit of a broken country at the moment, So 74 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 4: I'll be interested to see how they fix all of that. 75 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's not not a good situation. 76 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: I've been divided for a long time too, and I 77 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: don't think it hasn't gotten better at all. Despite whether 78 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: you're a Trump guy, whether you're a who's the sleepy 79 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: old man, the demension guy Joe Biden, whether you're a 80 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: Biden guy, I'm. 81 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: Waiting for that guy. 82 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: It's just like die mid press conference. 83 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: He genuinely has no idea where he is. 84 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 4: They got him the other day because this is two 85 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 4: into a politics podcast, but I watched a feverit and 86 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 4: news while I was over there. They got him for 87 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 4: hoarding classified documents, which is exactly what they got Trump for, 88 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 4: and one of the people that was investigating said something 89 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: along the lines of. 90 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 2: He's a well meaning elderly man with a bad memory. 91 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 2: And I'm like, you've just said that about your president, 92 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: and one of the guys in the way are Yeah, 93 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: I just craped my pants. 94 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: Anyway. 95 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 4: So yeah, we'll talk more about the LEXUSJX shortly, and 96 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 4: I might even I'll touch on it now. Just some 97 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 4: of the stuff that we did outside of the GX 98 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 4: launch in Los Angeles. We drove the Twitter rad Fall Prime, 99 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 4: which is fantastic. So that's basically the rad Fall that 100 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 4: we get, but it's a plug in hybrid and it 101 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: does zero to one hundred and under six seconds. 102 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: She is phenomenal, tchnique. 103 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 4: Really efficient, very easy to manage and drive. We also 104 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 4: drove the Keya Tell You Ride the x Pro, which 105 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 4: is the off road version on All Terrains. 106 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: Almost got shot by a lady. 107 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: Well. 108 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 2: I just presumed I was where it was going to 109 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: escalate that this was American American dotter pretty much. 110 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 4: She came and started yelling at us for using the 111 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 4: filming on this land that she claimed private America. 112 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: Get on my land, Hey, stop pouring the kids shoes. 113 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: But I asked her, so whose land is it? 114 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 4: Just because I'll go ask permission if it's not okay, 115 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 4: because I was genuinely like, well, I don't want to 116 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 4: film here if it's someone land and she goes, I 117 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 4: think it's the guy up there, and I said ok 118 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 4: I said do you have permission to be here? 119 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: Because she was walking her dogs on it. 120 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 4: And she's like yeah, And I'm like, but you don't 121 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 4: know who owns the land. So I was like, all right, cool, Like, 122 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 4: you just look like you probably hit the pipe fairly frequently, 123 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 4: so I'm just going to get out of here before 124 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 4: you come back and shoot me. 125 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: I would have asked for a sweet deal. 126 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 4: But yeah, So I did that and also drove a 127 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 4: rivianah yeah, yeah, yeah to the suv and that ended 128 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 4: up being an absolute disaster. When it came to charging 129 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 4: as part of the review, I thought, let's just shoot 130 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 4: a bit of content on what it's like to charge 131 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 4: a car in a state like California that is fully 132 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 4: into EVS and outside of Norway is one of the 133 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 4: more progressive sort of electric feed They kind. 134 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: Of led the way with that sort of stuff. They 135 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: really championed it. 136 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 4: And I genuinely thought it was just going to be 137 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: like a five minute video and everything was going to 138 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 4: be great. It ended up being an absolute saga. It 139 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 4: took us so long to actually charge this car, as in, 140 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 4: find a charger that wasn't that didn't have a queue 141 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 4: of ten fifteen cars. 142 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was incredible watching that footage, unbelievable. I was 143 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: blown away. 144 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 4: So yeah, I'll have a video on that. Will chat 145 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 4: about that in a bit more detail later. 146 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: All Right, We thought we should talk about emissions laws. 147 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: Do you want to start with that? Do you want 148 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: to talk about emissions laws? Because they're sort of coming 149 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: up and a few things have been and now it's 150 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: now I'm going to go through my dumbass kind of 151 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: understanding of this and then you can throw me over 152 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: the coals and just tell me where I'm kind of right, 153 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: because basically all wrong, Yeah, all right, all wrong, very 154 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: much wrong. So Paul wanted to bring up emissions standards, 155 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: and so I thought to myself, here we go. He's 156 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: going to have like a little Pavais moment of I'm 157 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: going to have an editorial. From what I can understand 158 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: is you lower emissions, you lower the carbon footprint. Right now, 159 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: Europe has been, I guess, leading the way on this. 160 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: They kind of change the game when it comes to 161 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: emissions full stop. And that includes the current industry. So 162 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: the difference between Europe and Australia is Europe is very 163 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: much mandated by laws. Australia is, well, we have these 164 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: things called voluntary emissions targets. Now, from what I can 165 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: get is we're not really accountable to even hit these 166 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: targets at all. And I think in the last three years, 167 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: we haven't. I think it's gotten worse. So we sell 168 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: heaps of view, heaps of four wheel drives. The one 169 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: thing I will say is when it comes to what 170 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: causes high emissions, so Australia has really dirty fuel on 171 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: the world market, on the world sort of scheme of 172 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: it all, we've got dirty fuel which they're fixing. Well, yes, 173 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: that's kind of part of this whole thing. So we 174 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: love our utes, we love our four wheel drives, and 175 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: so this is going to make it tougher when it 176 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: comes to new laws coming into force. What exactly was 177 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: announced this week, I'm a bit confused at So all 178 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: new cars, SUVs, light commercial vehicles, basically anything that's introduced 179 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: in Australia in September next year, so that's twenty twenty 180 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: five has to go by the new Euro six D standard. 181 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: Previous existing models will have to hit that by twenty 182 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: twenty eight. And that's to comply. Half the current models 183 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: we've got on sale right now are Euro five So 184 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: Euro six D is even stricter. Yep. With that, you 185 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: don't just consider the type of car, You've got to 186 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: consider the type of petrol that's going into it. Now, 187 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: this is the weird thing. This is what I couldn't 188 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: quite get, which you can get to in a second. 189 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: But I know that we're going to be reducing the 190 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: amount of sultware in our petrol, and I think this 191 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: seems like it's going to be affecting octane ninety five. 192 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, basically, and ninety one is the worst defender 193 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 4: at the moment. If you look at ninety one rong 194 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 4: fuel that we have in Australia, it is amongst the 195 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 4: worst in the world for sulfur content, and that is 196 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 4: why a lot of modern engines require ninety five or 197 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 4: ninety eight ROND fuel to run. 198 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 2: So a lot of European vehicles that are sold in. 199 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 4: Australia have minimums because if you feed at ninety one 200 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 4: it will basically destroy the engine. So yeah, that that 201 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 4: is what they're looking at fixing. And they already fixed diesel. 202 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 4: So the sulfur content in diesel is now sort of 203 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 4: in amongst first world countries, but our unleaded fuel is 204 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 4: amongst the worst in the world, and that's what they're 205 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 4: looking at fixing. 206 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: That's also the. 207 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 4: One that they claim will only increase the cost of 208 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 4: fuel by a cent or two cents a lead, which 209 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 4: I just think is absolute nonsense. 210 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: It'll be much more than that. 211 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: So this is and that includes taking sulfur and stuff 212 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: like that at or the rubbish. 213 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: Ye. 214 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: So basically what this I feel like, what this is 215 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: going to sort of packed is things like youtes heavy 216 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 1: duty kind of commercial vehicles, utes apparently like Niche sports cars. 217 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: I don't know what falls under Niche sports cars by 218 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: the way, because yeah, anyway, it depends what you go with. 219 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: But apparently some budget hashback models as well. Yep, so 220 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: that don't really have the Euro six dy variants. That's 221 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: sort of a big question will they survive? But yeah, 222 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: where am I at with that? Good? 223 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 2: Okay, now just give you one sect of triple checks, 224 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 2: I think. So that's all sort of pretty much there. 225 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 2: Just the sort of nuances of it. 226 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 4: The way that it will work is manufacturers will have 227 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 4: limits per vehicle that they have to meet. So this 228 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 4: is average CO two emissions per kilometer across their vehicle fleets. 229 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 4: So if you think of let's say Ford for example, 230 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 4: and you've got all of the vehicles that they sell, 231 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 4: basically they're going to say that let's say your limit 232 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: is two hundred grams per kilometer or something like that. 233 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: There's plucking that out of thin air. 234 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 4: If their average sales mainly rangeer in Everest, which they are, 235 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 4: what they'll need to do is basically figure out what 236 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,599 Speaker 4: amount above that average they're contributing to the environment for 237 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 4: the vehicles that they sell, and then they will be 238 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 4: penalized for that. 239 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: So would they be inclined to be interested because they 240 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: don't really just said they don't really have many evs. 241 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: They've got the here in Australia, they've got the Mark three, 242 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: the Mustang Mark three. I think they've got like some 243 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: sort of a transit van too. Does that mean I 244 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: know they're working on like a small EV, but does 245 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: that mean they'll be introducing more hybrids and evs? 246 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 4: Well, exactly because logically you don't want to be paying 247 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 4: these fines. But what happens then, and this is what's 248 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 4: happened in Europe as well, car companies like Tesla that 249 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 4: only make electric vehicles will get credits. So what you 250 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: can then do is sell your credits to another car company, 251 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 4: so Forward can buy credits from Tesla as they're fine. 252 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 4: And this is how Tesla built its factory in Europe 253 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 4: they basically had Alfa Romeo or the Stalantes group paying 254 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 4: their credits to Tesla. Then Tesla used that money to 255 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 4: create a factory. So that is the sort of gist 256 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 4: of how it's going to work. Now, there are a 257 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 4: number of problems with this though, So. 258 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: One thing I will say is who created that rule? 259 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this is what they're doing to try 260 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 4: and get people into cleaner vehicles, which I get it, 261 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 4: it makes sense, but to put it into context, passenger 262 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: cars and light commercial vehicles only contribute around ten percent 263 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 4: a little bit more than ten percent of Australia's total emissions. 264 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 4: So they are focusing very heavily on this one industry 265 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 4: and it doesn't seem they're putting much effort into anything else. 266 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 4: So the problem with this is that at the moment, 267 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 4: you really don't have the ability for people to buy 268 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 4: the vehicles that they need to be able to meet 269 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 4: this requirement. Putting this in from twenty twenty five, if 270 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 4: you're a tradee there is not an electric ute. Well 271 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 4: there is an electric ute, but it's rubbish. It's the LDV. 272 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 4: So you're saying to them, okay, well, now you're forcing 273 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 4: a car company to go Okay, well we're going to 274 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 4: increase the price of this car because a car company 275 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 4: isn't just going to take up all those costs. They're 276 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 4: going to pass them on to the. 277 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: Consumerw okay, so and they'll use that I mean that 278 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: extra cost is credits right. 279 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean they're passing it on. 280 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 4: There's no way a car company is going to go, okay, 281 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 4: well we'll just absorb the cost of all this and 282 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 4: just continue selling cars. They'll either withdraw a car from 283 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 4: sale if they don't have a better engine, or alternatively, 284 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 4: they will charge more for the car knowing that it's 285 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 4: the only engine they have available. And you, as as 286 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 4: a person in Australia that is buying a car, are 287 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 4: either going to be forced buy an expensive EV which 288 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 4: is what they are at the moment compared to internal combustion. 289 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 2: Cars, or alternatively, you're. 290 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 4: Going to have to pay more for an internal combustion 291 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 4: car that doesn't meet these requirements. Now, the counter to 292 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 4: that is that these car companies sell vehicles like the 293 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 4: Ranger and the high Lux in countries that already have 294 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 4: these requirements. So there are engines they already produce in 295 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 4: other countries that meet these requirements. They will eventually bring 296 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: those two Australia because obviously they don't want. 297 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: To be fine. 298 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 4: But the extra cost of all of that is going 299 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 4: to get passed on to the consumers. So where they 300 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 4: say here that Australians will save around thousand dollars per 301 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 4: vehicle per year in fuel costs, who's saying that the 302 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 4: government is absolute bullshit. There is no way it is 303 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 4: going to I mean, these engines, yes, they are more efficient, 304 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 4: but they're not going to save your thousand dollars a year. 305 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 4: Then they further go on to claim that the average 306 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 4: new vehicle purchase purchaser in twenty twenty eight claim to 307 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 4: be looking at a saving of five seven hundred and 308 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 4: ten over five years. It is absolute nonsense. There is 309 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 4: no way you are going to be saving that much 310 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 4: more fuel. In addition to that, the extra cost of 311 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 4: the vehicle, which is going to be passed on to 312 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 4: you as a consumer, is not going to offset the 313 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 4: fuel saving either. So I just think that it's a 314 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 4: great idea. Yes, we need to make the automotive industry greener, 315 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 4: et cetera, et cetera, but at the moment, you don't 316 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 4: have vehicles for sale that are suitable for this if 317 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 4: you have a look at what Australians are buying, which 318 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 4: is utes and SUVs, and if you have a look 319 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 4: in the States as well. I mean their biggest seller 320 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 4: is the fine fifty huge, an enormous vehicle. 321 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: It's weird too because you're looking at I know this 322 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: sounds like a really basic thing to say, but I'm 323 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: used to it now. When you look at like the 324 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: consumption of what Europe are doing and how they're using 325 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: their cars, it's a lot different to how we use 326 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: our cars. And also what we consider, say a big 327 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: family car, to what Europe considers a big family car. 328 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: A fucking Volkswagen Golf over there is a family car. Yeah. 329 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 4: The issue is they're parroting all this stuff out of 330 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 4: Europe and it has absolutely no relation to what we 331 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 4: do when they go on a road trip over there. Yes, 332 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 4: they might travel longer distances, but you're traveling across built 333 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 4: up areas, and it makes sense that you need to 334 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 4: not be emitting as much through towns and cities across here. 335 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 4: If you're traveling longer distances, you're in the middle of nowhere. 336 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 4: A small vehicle doesn't make any sense. A small vehicle 337 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 4: doesn't toe. A small vehicle doesn't do a lot of 338 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 4: the things that the Australians that need to travel longer 339 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 4: distances are doing. So what you're doing now is penalizing 340 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 4: people who need to travel longer distances. In addition to that, 341 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 4: you then need to have a think about you've got 342 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: people that live in the country that is long distance driving, 343 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 4: but then in the cities you've also got people who 344 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 4: live further out because they can't afford to live closer 345 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 4: to the city. So these are people that are going 346 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 4: to be traveling longer distances by virtue it. 347 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: In regional towns the fact that they can't afford it. 348 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 4: So I just think that these are all and this 349 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 4: is exactly what we've seen in California right where you've 350 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 4: imposed all of these laws made it very hard to 351 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 4: buy the car that people actually want, so they're pushing 352 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: everyone into evs. 353 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: And what we witnessed over there. 354 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 4: Which will be in the video that's coming out, the 355 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 4: public charging network is an absolute clusterfuck. We were waiting 356 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 4: hours to get to a charger. When we finally got 357 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 4: to the charger, the charger was either faulty or slow 358 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 4: because they had so many cars using it, and this 359 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 4: is in a country that has incredible ev uptake. And 360 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 4: according to this report from last year, there are over 361 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 4: one hundred and thirty thousand public charges across the US, 362 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 4: which was a forty percent increase over twenty twenty, so 363 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 4: they are increasing. The private sector has also committed more 364 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 4: than one hundred and twenty billion dollars in domestic EV 365 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 4: and battery investments in the States, and it still isn't 366 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 4: enough at all to cater for the vehicles they're selling 367 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 4: at the moment. And their uptake of EVS is between 368 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 4: ten and twenty percent in new car sales, so you 369 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 4: can just imagine that when that gets hold over here, 370 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 4: we don't have the infrastructure to support it. If you 371 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 4: don't have charging at home, you have to go and 372 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 4: charge publicly, which is expensive and often doesn't work. So 373 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 4: I understand what they want to do. I just think 374 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 4: it's far too early for Australia. It's not very well 375 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: thought out for the cars that people are buying, and 376 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 4: I guarantee this will cost consumers more. There is absolutely 377 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 4: no sugarcoding that this will end up losting more money. 378 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: And this is an ev aid by the way, at 379 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: all by any means. It's I've always said, like, if 380 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 1: I had sort of a perfect garage and the money, 381 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: my daily commuter would probably be an ev It just 382 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: makes more sense. 383 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 4: But you're in a privileged position to make that happen. Exactly, 384 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 4: a lot of people can't afford a new car, and 385 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 4: if you can, you can't then afford like a Tesla 386 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 4: Model White, which is a family car, starts at seventy 387 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 4: thousand dollars. I just don't understand how they expect a 388 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 4: consumer to go, Okay, well, I was going to buy 389 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 4: a RAB four, but now I'm being forced into this thing, 390 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 4: which is double the price. 391 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: Well, surely hybrids would meet this kind of these Euro 392 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: sixty standards right. 393 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 4: Exactly, And you've seen how much demand there is for those, 394 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 4: So I don't know, I think that, and even for 395 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 4: a hybrid, if you look at the RAV four that 396 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 4: runs on ninety one rong, so that runs on the 397 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 4: dirty fuel that we have. I suspect if they do 398 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 4: switch to an engine that is capable of these new 399 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 4: emission standards, it is going to be more expensive, and 400 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 4: that car is ready feel gone up in price anyway. 401 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: But wait times as well, because I know I think Toyota. 402 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,719 Speaker 1: I read some way at Toyota is slowing down their 403 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: production as well. 404 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I just think that it will be interesting 405 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 4: to see how this goes. 406 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 2: For people who are privileged enough. 407 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 4: To be able to afford a new car and a 408 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 4: privileged enough to also be able to afford a more 409 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 4: expensive new car because of this, or an electric car, 410 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 4: I don't think they'll probably care all that much. But 411 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 4: what is coming around the corner is fuel subsidy disappearing 412 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 4: and people getting charged per kilometer, And I think also 413 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 4: around the corner will be the removal of subsidies for evs. 414 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 4: At the moment, there's been a huge groundswell for fleets 415 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 4: and people who are in jobs that allow them to 416 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 4: have an ovated lease rushing into evs. That we've seen 417 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 4: the second hand market tanking for evs because no one 418 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 4: wants to buy them secondhand. So I think that once 419 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 4: subsidies are removed, you're going to see the real state. 420 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 4: And that's what's happening in Europe at the moment. Subsidy 421 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 4: is getting removed everywhere and the private consumer is not 422 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 4: buying as many of these as they were previously because 423 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 4: the subsidies are. 424 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: Gone, So yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens. 425 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: And you know, I do feel for the people who 426 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 2: can't afford to keep up with all of this stuff 427 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 2: because it looks great on paper, but if you go 428 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: to the average Australian, it's going to end up costing 429 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 2: them more. 430 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: I think we'll get better quality fuel, we'll get cleaner fuel, 431 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: for sure. Obviously, hopefully your raptor will disintegrate and burn 432 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: down a cliff. 433 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,239 Speaker 4: That will be leaving my hands at a time soon. 434 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 4: But I do agree. In the cities, like I used 435 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 4: to when our office was sort of near my place, 436 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 4: so used to walk to work and the thing I 437 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 4: hated the most was walking down Kingsway. 438 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 2: Walking And I did hate that. That was the first 439 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: thing I had Jesus. 440 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: It sounded like a fat man squashing grapes. It was 441 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: just your man, but was slapping away. 442 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 4: But walking down Kingsway, which is a four lane busy 443 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 4: commute into the city, it would be hard to breathe 444 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 4: because you had trucks. 445 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 2: And cars and all that sort of stuff. 446 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 4: So yeah, I totally agree that we need to be 447 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 4: stopping the shit that's spewing out of these cars in 448 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 4: city one hundred percent, So totally get it. I just 449 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 4: don't know that this is the correct way to be 450 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 4: going about it. 451 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: I wonder if, come late this year early next year, 452 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: if a lot of dealerships will be slashing the price 453 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: of their cars because they don't want them on the 454 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: showroom floor in a sense, because what they've got to 455 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,239 Speaker 1: do is they don't meet Euro sixty standards. They're going 456 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 1: to have to somehow comply because it's not really going 457 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: to affect people who are you know, already driving around 458 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: in a you know, nineteen ninety two high lux or 459 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: something like that. They'll just continue doing that. Yeah, they 460 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: will just continue doing that, but. 461 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 4: It won't be like overnight, ye near to go sell 462 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 4: your car. But if you do want a new car, 463 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 4: you're going to have limited options compared to what we 464 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 4: have now, and those options that you do get will 465 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 4: be more expensive. 466 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: It doesn't feel as bad as it sounds. I just 467 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: can't imagine that. 468 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 2: It doesn't right now. 469 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 4: Yes, just wait until you see the cost increase of 470 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 4: these cars. And if you're one of the unfortunate people 471 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 4: that buys an ev without home charging, just you see 472 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 4: what's happening in the US happen here where you just 473 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 4: cannot charge the car. 474 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: What we saw during COVID that people are willing to 475 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: pay a shitload for above what a car is worth 476 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: and wait out far longer than what a car is 477 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: worth waiting for. 478 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 4: That was when interest rates were nothing. Now with the 479 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 4: cost of living, and it's going to take a while 480 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 4: to fix this cost of living issue. Even if they 481 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 4: reduce interest rates, you still have products that are very expensive. 482 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 4: And if you look at what's happening in the States, 483 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 4: we spoke about this off air. I was shocked that 484 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 4: a meal at McDonald's. So this was literally sausage and 485 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 4: ek McMuffin, hash brown and a coffee, two of those, 486 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 4: which is what we ordered when we were heading out 487 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 4: to do some filming, thirty six Australian dollars. 488 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: Which, by the way, Paul says, that's for two people. 489 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: Paul actually put all that food between two pieces of 490 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: bread and ate it like a sandwich. 491 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: There was no one else there. 492 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was no one else there. 493 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 4: But this is what I'm saying. It's that's what's happening 494 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 4: in the States at the moment. So you just wait 495 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 4: till that happens here here at the moment. Fuel is 496 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 4: very cheap. A lot of the stuff we have is 497 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 4: very cheap, so, but it's also expensive. 498 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: Like everyone's well starting to Yeah, people are starting to 499 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: rave on about and starting to catch on about. Hey, 500 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: forty bucks fifty bucks down at my local Woolworths or whatever. 501 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: Used to be like half a shop for the week 502 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: or a quarter of a shop. Now it's just like 503 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: getting the overnight basics. 504 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: It gets you the dishwasher tablets. 505 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and these guys, and by the way, these guys 506 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: are now pulling in record profits like never before. 507 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: The same with all the electricity companies. Yeah, so everyone's 508 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 4: making money. 509 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: Except there's greed there. Yeah. Speaking of the ev market, 510 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: the Evy game, the successor to the was it. The 511 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: I eight, which is called the I sixteen was looking promising, 512 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: It was looking great. It was like we got a 513 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: glimpse of it, and then things got a bit who 514 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: hard during COVID tough times, and then they've pulled the 515 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: pin on the whole project, which we're just looking at 516 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: this right now. This God, this is a great looking car. 517 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, look, I think so obviously I sixteen 518 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 4: is I eight times two. But I think that the 519 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 4: I eight is still a sensational car, and I think 520 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 4: they're super cheap at the moment of secondhand vehicles, and 521 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 4: I just love the look of them. They're really fun 522 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 4: to drive, they're fast, they're just cool. 523 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: And whatever happened to them, by the way, because they 524 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: didn't sell great, they didn't make it. Did they not 525 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: make many? 526 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 4: They didn't sell great, But it is I stand by it. 527 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 4: It is still great, a great vehicle to buy today 528 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 4: because it is just cool. 529 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: It's beautiful. 530 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, holds up this I sixteen just takes it to 531 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 4: another level. It looks sensational. So basically, the guy that 532 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 4: designed it, the design chief for the BMW brand, said 533 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 4: that it was another good kept secret. Prior to becoming 534 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 4: BMW's design boss, he was the head of design for 535 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 4: the M division and he basically was deeply involved in this. 536 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 4: And he said that the outside and the inside were 537 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 4: totally finished and it was ready to go, but COVID 538 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 4: hit and they canceled the project, and he didn't divulge 539 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 4: much more detail. But yeah, just such a good looking car, 540 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 4: and I do hope that this finally gets another life 541 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 4: at some point. But they were basically going to recycle 542 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 4: the body, the sort of composite skin that the I 543 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 4: eight had, so it didn't need a huge amount of, 544 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 4: you know, key architectural changes. So I just think it's 545 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 4: a it's a cool looking thing and unfortunately it'll likely 546 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 4: never see the light of day. 547 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: The rear looks amazing, like it does look very concepty, 548 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: but one that they could easily pull off, you know, 549 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: the I eight. We saw that in the I eight. 550 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: It was very much what the hell is this? And yeah, 551 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: they brought it out and it's a it's a fantastic 552 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: looking car. I've got Yeah, I've got nothing bad to say. 553 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: The wheels are a crazy call. I'd hope that keep those, 554 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: you know, like the different orange wheels at the back, 555 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: at the rear. 556 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: It just looks bloody awesome. Yeah, absolutely awesome. 557 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: What a shame. Yeah. What else got droop fed to 558 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: us during the week. The R S six GT. 559 00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 3: Oh. 560 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's an interesting one because what Audi is now 561 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 4: doing is all of their future cars that have even 562 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 4: numbers are going to be electric, and then the odd 563 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 4: numbers are going to be not electric. So the RS 564 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 4: six is going to become an electric vehicle. So this 565 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 4: is the last time you'll see an RS six that 566 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 4: is not not sort of fully electric and the GT 567 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 4: is basically the sign off for that vehicle. They'll do 568 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 4: six hundred and sixty units in total. Australia is going 569 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 4: to get about twenty of them, and it has this 570 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,719 Speaker 4: incredible designs that it just looks absolutely bloody unreal. So 571 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 4: in terms of what is different here, so reworked Audi 572 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 4: Quatro Sport differential for the rear axle to make it 573 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 4: a little bit more agile and rear biased, a new 574 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 4: coil over suspension tune. We don't know pricing just yet 575 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 4: for Australia, but basically they're saying that it's got a 576 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 4: higher spring rate, triple adjustable dampers, stiffer stabilizers so it's 577 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 4: going to be bloody firm, and then ride heights being lowered. 578 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 4: So they've just gone to absolute town on this. 579 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: The artwork kind of looks great too. I've got nothing 580 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: bad to say about how this car looks. It Just 581 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: the speaker system in it just pops everything. The wheels 582 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: look at that. 583 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: It is a stunner of a thing. 584 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 4: So yeah, look, I still think this is one of 585 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 4: the best cars on the market today in terms of 586 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 4: just an overall performance daily driver. You can drive this 587 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 4: daily and then when you want to just unleash it, 588 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 4: it unleashes like it is. It is such a good car. 589 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm a big fan of them. 590 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: Lexus GX. Should we talk let's talk it speaking of 591 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: good looking cars. Wow, we the Lexus GX. 592 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 2: So let me give you just a bit of a 593 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 2: background on this car. 594 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about the background. Power way, 595 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: tell me a little bit about it. 596 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 4: So this vehicle sits on a platform called TNGA dash F. Now, 597 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 4: the reason that's important is because the three hundred series 598 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 4: land Cruise that sits on the same platform, so does 599 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 4: the Lexus lex. So the big big suv that's shared 600 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 4: with the three hundred, now, the new land Cruise a 601 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 4: Prato is also on TNGAF. So the complication to that 602 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 4: is that all of these vehicles share the same wheelbase. 603 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 4: They have slight differences in terms of length, but that's 604 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 4: just due to the body design. And it then means 605 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 4: that you've got the same vehicle but different pricing points. 606 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 4: So the reason that's a bit of a complication is 607 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 4: that the land Cruise a Prito, which was always under 608 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 4: the bigger big boy land Creuse are in terms of 609 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 4: pricing and engines, et cetera, is now the same vehicle 610 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 4: with the exception of the engine. 611 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 2: And because you. 612 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 4: Now have to have four of these, you've got to 613 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 4: have a land Cruise, a Prito, a GX which is 614 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 4: the land cruise, a Prato alternative, then. 615 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: A three hundred. 616 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 4: Three hundred series, and then alexis Lex, yes, which is 617 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 4: top t You have to have enough differentia between them 618 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 4: so that you can actually provide value because the guy 619 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 4: that buying a three hundred series doesn't want the guy 620 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 4: in the Prado with a V six diesel as well, 621 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 4: because why would you spend an extra fifty grand and 622 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 4: a three hundred series. 623 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: Now I said to you before, I was like, so 624 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: what's the difference between the GX and the Alex and 625 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: you gave me a very sly level. Then I pulled 626 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: my pants up. 627 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 2: So here's here's the issue. 628 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 4: Right, So this uses the same twin turbo V six 629 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 4: petrol engine that's in the Lex, except it's detuned. 630 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: Right and so, and then by the way they've taken 631 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: the V eight now is gone right. 632 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 4: And a bit of background to the GX. This was 633 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 4: available I think for three generations in the US, and 634 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 4: the last generation of this was a V eight petrol, 635 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 4: so look the same as a Prato pretty much, but 636 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 4: it had a V eight petrol as opposed to the 637 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 4: POxy four cylinder diesel. It's in the Prato, which it 638 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 4: will then carry over into this next generation, which is 639 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 4: just comical. 640 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: Okay. 641 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, the GX is I think probably the best 642 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 4: value you're going to get in terms of luxury, off road, 643 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 4: K capable, and punchy, so it's got all of those things. 644 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: Still get the V six twin turbo. 645 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 4: It's not huge money, so we don't know pricing just yet, 646 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 4: but it'll likely kick off at around one hundred and 647 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 4: ten thousand before on roads. It's going to come in 648 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 4: three specs, so it's going to be Luxury, overtrail and sports. 649 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 4: Luxury overtrail is my favorite. So this is basically their 650 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 4: off road focused version, comes with all terrains. It's got 651 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 4: a very sort of aggressive off road. Look, there's a 652 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 4: color there that's very reminiscent of Sandy Torp, which is 653 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 4: the seventy series Hero color. 654 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: I think that's the one they're peddling in all media 655 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: at the moment too. That's their big media car. 656 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they've even thought about stuff. So you've got 657 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 4: integrated TOBAR with brake controllers that comes standard from the factory. 658 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 4: Down in front of the overtrailer, you've got a section 659 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 4: that can be removed to install stuff like a winch. 660 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 4: They've thought about modification because in the States the GX 661 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 4: is heavily modified by people for off road driving, so 662 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 4: they wanted to give you one straight out of the box. 663 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 4: Comes with EKDSS, which is a new version of KDSS 664 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 4: that's electronic controlled, which gives you really good wheel articulation. 665 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: So on paper, it's great in terms of the way 666 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:05,719 Speaker 2: that it drives. 667 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 4: We had a chance to drive this across some of 668 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 4: the roads in just outside Tucson, and not many corners, 669 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 4: so I can't really comment on how it handles. But 670 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 4: the engine is fantastic in a straight line. It's got 671 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 4: plenty of punch. The interior really nice luxury appointments. Looks 672 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 4: different to typical Lexus a lot of straight lines. 673 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: Very boxy, isn't it. And I don't have a problem 674 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: with that at all. I think that was my main 675 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: problem with Lexus in the past. I remember when you 676 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: asked me once what do you think of Lexus in general? 677 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: And I said, it just feels like an old man 678 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: chucking the golf clubs in the back of the car. 679 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's changed now. They're really trying to bring that down. 680 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: I think they've achieved that with this too. I think 681 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: they really have it. It's boxy, it's there is nothing 682 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: swoopy that's been carried over from the past, previous models. 683 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: This is it's a beautiful looking car, and it's still 684 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,959 Speaker 1: it's still kind of meaty, you know, it's still aggressive, 685 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: and it does have that off road stance about it. 686 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: It looks like it could still go anywhere. My question 687 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: is this is a lot of these four wheel drives 688 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: go it's a great off road, and they're a bit 689 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: sort of firm or whatever on road or vice versa. 690 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: How's this one going like as an off road and 691 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: on road like package. 692 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 4: Well, they've got anti roll bars which can be disconnected 693 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 4: when it's off road automatically. But this overtrail also gets 694 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 4: adaptive damping, and so does the top speck. The entry 695 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 4: level on twenties, I thought road, Well, the top speck 696 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 4: is on twenty two, so I don't know what that's like. 697 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 4: We didn't get a chance to drive that, but yeah, 698 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 4: look for and the other complication again is the roads 699 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 4: were quite smooth where we were. I really need to 700 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 4: see this in Australia to see what it's like. But 701 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 4: it did have a couple of negatives though, So that 702 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 4: has the same issue that the Rounded series has, which 703 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 4: is the second road doesn't slide, which means you don't 704 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 4: really get the opportunity to give you third row much room, 705 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 4: and as a result of that, it's not a great 706 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 4: spot for adults. You also can't get the overtrail in 707 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 4: seven seats. They do a six seat configuration as well, 708 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 4: which again you can't do. The other thing as well 709 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 4: is that this comes with a four thousand kilo brake 710 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 4: towing capacity. In the States, the overtrail, we won't get 711 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 4: that in Australia. I don't think they'll probably bump that 712 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 4: down to thirty five hundred. So yeah, there's just a 713 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 4: couple of sort of odd, sort of little bits and 714 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 4: pieces there. But for the most part, this is actually 715 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 4: a fantastic vehicle and I'm just really excited to see 716 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 4: it here. From what I can see, it is going 717 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 4: to be sold out for a couple of years as 718 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 4: soon as they launch. So if you are actually interested 719 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 4: in one of these, I'd be going down and putting 720 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 4: your money down. 721 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: Lexus is predicted. 722 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: We interviewed the boss of Lexus and he goes, they're 723 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: predicting twenty percent of their sales volume is going to 724 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 2: be overtrail. I'm like, I don't think so. 725 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 4: I think it's going to be more like eighty percent, 726 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 4: which means they would have forward planned two or three 727 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 4: years ago to order only twenty percent of the allocation 728 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 4: and overtrail. And if most people are going to be 729 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 4: buying that, it's going to be sold out virtually straight away. 730 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: That could be a deliberate he could be underselling that deliberately. 731 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 4: I do hope so, because I think this will be 732 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 4: incredibly popular and they're just going to have that issue 733 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 4: where it sells out because the problem they have with 734 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 4: the Prado, they're only launching that with a carryover effectively 735 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 4: two point eight leader diesel, and that thing is fairly gutless. 736 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 4: In the Pridor at the moment, this will be heavier 737 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 4: and they're putting the same engine in it, So I 738 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 4: think everyone's going to be rushing in to get this 739 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 4: as opposed to the Prato. If towing and that sort 740 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 4: of stuff is important. 741 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: To them, they've got plastic side steps on that. 742 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 743 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 4: See the concept had rock sliders, which looked unreal. I 744 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 4: have a feeling rock sliders will be available as an 745 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 4: option because they have a lot of accessories you can 746 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 4: get with this. And I did notice those plastic side 747 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,439 Speaker 4: steps out very cheap. 748 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: The Raptor's got like a metal ye a black metal right, Ye. 749 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: That would be better off doing that. 750 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 751 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 752 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: It does look good though, doesn't it. Those those sign 753 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: marrias are almost a little bit FJ cruise, Yeah, exactly, 754 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: square sort of things. 755 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: Can I just also ask for your opinion on this? 756 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: Actually yeah, I would put that away. There's probably a 757 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: cream for that. I'd go see a doctor soon. Did 758 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: you get that off, Donner? What's that? 759 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 2: I'll say it's similar in color? 760 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: Oh God Jesus. 761 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 4: But what do you think about my cowboy hat which 762 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 4: I got in in Scottsdale, fitted for my head and 763 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 4: accessorized for my head. 764 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 2: Do you think I'd be okay wearing that in public? 765 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: And many men did? You? Fuck? So, give give us 766 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 1: another look. We're going to put that on. We're putting 767 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: that up. 768 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's broad back mountain ball. 769 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: Did you actually buy that? And has your wife seen that? Yeah? 770 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: She loves it? Does she? Well she saw it last night. 771 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 2: It was the only thing I was wearing. 772 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: Did she get the last sue out? 773 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 4: I don't know what that means, but yeah, yeah, yeah, 774 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 4: in Scott style, the mini Lau. 775 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 2: That everyone was wearing. So I brought it back with me. 776 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 1: Did you did you? You drive the g X with that? 777 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am. 778 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: Let's just pitch your pool right now. It is a 779 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: little cowboy hard donna next to him, wheel drive, smells 780 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: like a steak and seats burty bad roll you Mirrow. 781 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: Speaking of cool stuff, watch out a little paper, A 782 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: little package for you here, and a lot of it's illegal, 783 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: so please don't talk about this the smoking stuff on 784 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: on the air. But a little little little package from 785 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: our good friends at Machines. Plus. We got some stickers. Yeah, yeah, we. 786 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 2: Got some stick while on the raptor Yeah. 787 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: Cups. 788 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 2: Oh nice T shirt as well. 789 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 1: Your T shirt there you go, triple extra large moo 790 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: moo size just for you. 791 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 2: I like that. But look at Theseus has been a 792 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 2: busy boy. 793 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: Gus has been a busy boy, Big ups to Gussie machines. 794 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 2: Plus these cups look amazing. Yeah that oh black and 795 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 2: white guys. 796 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: So there's two there, ones for the Sydney Car Expert Office, 797 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: the other ones for the Melbourne one. Put next to 798 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: you go cutting trophies or whatever the fuck you want. 799 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 2: To clear some room. I've got quite a few of those. 800 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's such big achievements. 801 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's got to take a win review you can 802 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 4: in between getting sued. 803 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, so that's that's our latest stuff from machines plots. 804 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 2: Are we giving some of this away? 805 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: I reckon, we give some away? And there's something I 806 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about off are okay? Should 807 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: we read some questions? Yeah, let's do it. Oh you 808 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: know what I was going to say. I've been so 809 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: bloody busy. I haven't driven anything. I did sort of 810 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: spend a couple of days in the ConA Hybrid just 811 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 1: out of interest. It was pretty fun. But I did. 812 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: I did spend some time in seventy nine series actually 813 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: expect out. 814 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 2: Oh it's actually got some accessories. 815 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh that's got a pie warmer in there. You 816 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: love that. 817 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 2: It's actually got the fridge. 818 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: It's got the shelving unit. It's got the I think 819 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: it's called a Dahady pop up tent up the top. 820 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 2: It's awesome. 821 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is nice. That's wild, isn't it. It's just 822 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: very nice those dirty life rooms to the big wheels 823 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: on it. I like the color too, Yeah yeah, same, 824 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:19,240 Speaker 1: that sort of silvery gun metal gray ericons the sweet spot. 825 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 2: Mind you you can't go past a sandy talk. 826 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. Probably needs the The front grill is 827 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: going to be redone on that too, like the but I. 828 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 2: Don't hate that. 829 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: Nah. 830 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 2: I don't know about the crime though. 831 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: Nah. Well that's good that that particular one's getting that 832 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: ripped off and something brand new. Who was it? That's 833 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: that's the good people that ignite h Q. Oh yeah, 834 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: you're looking at the new spokesperson. 835 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 2: Good for they. 836 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: We should read some questions. Oh here we go, all right, 837 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: some some have come through. Where's the sponsors? Well this 838 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: comes from Intrigues Coop. Where's the sponsors? Well, if you 839 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: want to sponsor the show, feel free. We're looking into it. Yeah, 840 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: we're looking into it. Look in all honesty, I can't 841 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: be but like a lot of people want to talk 842 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: to us about this. 843 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 2: He had some trademark lawyers who wanted to sponsor the show. 844 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. How much money was spent with them? Yes, 845 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: by the way, there's another podcast out there with a 846 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: very similar name. If you'd like to buyers. We're clearly 847 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: putting out a better product than you. Will Trevor ever 848 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 1: come back? No, No, he won't, no fucking way, if 849 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: I have anything to do with it, he will be back. Yes, 850 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: he got off. Do you know what, though, he'll be 851 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: back in the sense that like we'll rock up to 852 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: record one of these and he'll be Holy guys, there's money. 853 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 5: I've just come back from CCS and the complain and 854 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 5: bloody poling or. 855 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: What did he show off the other day? Something ridiculous? 856 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: Do you know what I want to ask Trevor about 857 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: the artist who we've spoken about before? Will I Am? 858 00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: Was that? That is it cs CSC Yes, and launched 859 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 1: an app and it's I can't remember what it's called. 860 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: It's called like drivers sound, which, by the way, will 861 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: I Am Drivers We own that word, so what will 862 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: be fucking yeah? 863 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 2: And someone owns the other word, Yeah, someone owns the 864 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 2: word word. 865 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 1: So it's basically it's an app and they did it 866 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: in the Mercedes EV And the way you drive kind 867 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 1: of collaborate, like talks to the sound of the car, 868 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,760 Speaker 1: not like engine and stuff. It's like dance music or whatever. 869 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,919 Speaker 1: Will go like if you're turning a corner real really 870 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: quickly when you accelerate out like. 871 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 2: It's this sounds very annoying. 872 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so this one this question. If you had 873 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 1: to pick one car to drive for the rest of 874 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 1: your life, what would it be? I'll drive the you go? 875 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: What would you drive? No, you go? What would you drive? 876 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 2: Just leave the jokes to me Champ? 877 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,760 Speaker 1: Sorry, of course, good question. 878 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 4: I reckon an RS six an R It would just 879 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 4: be the ultimate. It's good for family, good for going fast, 880 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 4: and just good for all sorts of fun stuff. 881 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: Is that the wagon? 882 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 883 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? When are the Epps going up on YouTube? Slash 884 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: you porn? Wow? We do need to start checking these 885 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: up on YouTube to be honest. It's got to happen. 886 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: It's just made it just fucking time. What do you 887 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 1: people think I do. 888 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 2: Just social media? Got to do it? 889 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that guy? What are the best cars you've 890 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: driven that immediately made you want to buy one? 891 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 2: I bought two. The Supra. I drove that and I 892 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 2: thought I want to buy one, and then the Raptor 893 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 2: as well, drive that, and thought, yeah, I'm going to 894 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 2: buy one. 895 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: Actually, you didn't even drive the model the model, y 896 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: you just bought that, correct? Yeah, that was for my 897 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: wife pretty much. Yeah, G two three rs. But then 898 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: I realized I couldn't buy one. Yeah, if that means 899 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: the mission laws, what's that? Yeah, I wonder if that 900 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:54,839 Speaker 1: falls under specific sports cars like niche sports cars. Okay, yeah, 901 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: if you had to pick one car to drive for 902 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: the rest of your life, yeah, fuck, I'd probably just 903 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 1: pick an old nine to eleven. Yeah. We had a 904 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: lot of requests for people to bring your stalker on 905 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: the pod. Which one, Well, Donna, this one is the 906 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: one that I fucking love this. 907 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 5: Ah, this is so good that Paul Marinarus source Marrick 908 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 5: flog by the way, look, I know this is a 909 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,959 Speaker 5: guy that's been giving you a ship, but credit where 910 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 5: credits due, Marinara Sauce. 911 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: Marrick is one of the funniest I've heard. 912 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 3: And his little pussy hum a drag queen chariot. That's 913 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 3: so good. Did you see where's the King of the 914 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 3: Belenz Peeni Paul should be pussy Paul. 915 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,800 Speaker 4: But anyway, but then I did google his name, yeah, 916 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 4: her name, and did you see what came up? 917 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: No? 918 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 2: God, let me show you. 919 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 1: In the meantime, I'm going to read this out. So 920 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: someone's been, someone's been what do you call it? Hating 921 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,600 Speaker 1: on you, patrol or whatever? So where's that Paul Marinara 922 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,439 Speaker 1: Marck flog in his little pussy hummer drag queen chariot 923 00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: give us a kiss? Love? And then where's the king 924 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: of balleens Peenie Paul bagtorship Canning Toyota? Again? Are we 925 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,359 Speaker 1: you stay snuggled up with your man in your butt 926 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: plug raptor? I've always said that car probably needs a 927 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: bonus butt plug? Uh? Where where's fist and Marrick, biggest 928 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: fucking crook liar under the sun bed. He's in his 929 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: homo raptor playing doctors and nurses with qui. Okay, this 930 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: guy is proper. What is it with him and gay people? 931 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: Oh Jesus Christ, he looks destest ship. Oh my god, 932 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 1: it's a woman. It's a man turned woman. Can I 933 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:58,280 Speaker 1: talk about this? Okay? So how bearded overweight Matthew Avery 934 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,919 Speaker 1: din became a beautiful, full blonde Sona. So the guy, 935 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: oh okay, so the guy who's been rubbishing Marinara Marrick 936 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: over here and saying all this like, go back in 937 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: your home, ohammer Is was a beautiful bearded man with 938 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: some sort of hobo and he was slash. 939 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 2: She became beautiful. 940 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: Well, hang on, I would say that beard is beautiful. 941 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: It's lovely. So he had quite a bushy, fucking pew 942 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: patch going on, and then he became a beautiful blonde 943 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,760 Speaker 1: called Sona. And I tell you what, not half bad. 944 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: I'd go, eh, I know you would, you definitely would. 945 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: You'd wear the cowboy hat for her. Sure, Holy Jesus, 946 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: he's made quite the transformation, hasn't he. 947 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 2: I'm fairly certain that that is the same person. So 948 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 2: there you go. 949 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why, Sona, Matthew whatever, reach out and 950 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: I'll send you some driver's show merchant and naked photo 951 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: of Pavlo and his address. 952 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:02,399 Speaker 2: Yeah. 953 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: That was that. What a fun episode. Yeah, it was 954 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: serious and it was sort of It was very serious. 955 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,319 Speaker 1: This is what happens when I do research. Not a 956 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: good idea. So Trevor is probably going to be on 957 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: the next one. We're working on a few things. And 958 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: by the way, there is a merch drop. It is 959 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: going to happen. I know we're going to be getting 960 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,800 Speaker 1: any where. We're talking air freshners. Now we're talking t shirts. 961 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 1: Let's talk off air, because I want to know what 962 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: you I've got an idea about this situation. I just 963 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: just want to run it past you. If not, we'll 964 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: just fucking give. 965 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 4: Away many who get in touch with us. Yeah, and 966 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 4: if you're listening to this, we would love it if 967 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 4: you can. Obviously not while you're driving, but set yourself 968 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 4: a mental reminder and say, you know, hey, Siri, remind 969 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 4: me to leave a rating for the Driver's Show. Leave 970 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 4: a five star rating that please, because it would massively 971 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 4: help us. That would be amazing if you could do that. 972 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 4: And if you do have any questions, contact at the 973 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 4: Drivers Show dot com today you we'll hit us up. 974 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: On the I g Yeah, there you go, let us 975 00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,359 Speaker 1: there you go. You're getting better with that. It used 976 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: to be hit us up on the social media. Guys. 977 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 1: He's getting caught on now he's got his fucking heart. 978 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: Give us your hang on. I'm gonna put some I'm 979 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 1: gonna put some Canyon Arrow music going on. Let me 980 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 1: hear your let me hear your Cowboy. 981 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 2: Audi, Gordy. 982 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, because that'll throw the scent of 983 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: the gay trail can row