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Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily os. It's Monday,

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Speaker 2: the twenty second of August.

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Speaker 3: I'm Zara, I'm Sam.

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Speaker 2: The Young Liberals have spoken out since the party's loss

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Speaker 2: at the last election, and they've blamed genuine inaction on

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Speaker 2: climate change, as well as a failure to recruit women

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Speaker 2: and deliver a national integrity commission as the cause of

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Speaker 2: their defeat. In today's deep dive, we'll speak to Clark Cooley.

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Speaker 2: He's a federal president of the Young Liberals and he's

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Speaker 2: going to talk about the future of the party. But first, Sam,

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Speaker 2: what's making headlines this morning.

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Speaker 3: It's shaping up to be a tense week in the

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Speaker 3: Russia Ukraine conflict after Russian forces in Crimea were targeted

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Speaker 3: by a fresh drone strike from Ukrainian forces. Now, this

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Speaker 3: all happened in the disputed peninsula of Crimea, and it

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Speaker 3: follows a string of attacks on Russian forces and installations

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Speaker 3: in this particular part of the region. Meanwhile, we should

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Speaker 3: learn more about the state of affairs at a major

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Speaker 3: nuclear plant controlled by Russian forces after Russia's President Vladimir

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Speaker 2: Back at home, the Department of Health in Victoria has

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Speaker 2: transmission of monkey pox is on the rise in that state.

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Speaker 2: There have now been forty cases of monkeypox in Victoria,

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Speaker 2: with around fifteen to eighteen active cases.

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Speaker 3: Currently, half of the countries one hundred and four disability

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Speaker 3: shut due to poor performance. The shutdowns are part of

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Speaker 3: the federal government's overhaul of the sector, and we'll see

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Speaker 3: eight providers closed altogether, impacting fifteen thousand people with a disability.

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Speaker 2: And the good news, two paramotoring pilots have landed safely

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Speaker 2: for men's mental health charity Grab Life by the Balls.

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Speaker 2: When the Coalition lost the last election, it prompted some

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Speaker 2: deep soul searching both within the Liberal Party and the Nationals.

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Speaker 2: The Liberals set up a review calling for submissions to

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Speaker 2: help them understand what it was that exactly led to

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Speaker 2: the coalition's worst results in seventy years, and one of

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Speaker 2: the responses they received was from the Young Liberals.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So this is the youth of the Liberal Party

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Speaker 3: to young people. They talked about things like climate, representation,

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Speaker 4: Absolutely cool.

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Speaker 3: Why don't we start by you telling us who you

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Speaker 5: Sure so, Clark Cooley, I'm the federal president of the

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Speaker 5: Young Liberals and the Young Liberals is the youth movement

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Speaker 3: Clark, you released a submission to the Liberal Party's election

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Speaker 3: Why do you think that is?

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Speaker 3: Now, since you released the submission. Have any senior members

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Speaker 5: We've had overwhelming positive feedback, particularly on the issue of

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Speaker 5: I think understand that this is an important issue that

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Speaker 3: It sounds like it's pretty urgent for the Liberal Party.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're talking about the lowest level of female

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Speaker 3: Do you think that there's a denial of the problem

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Speaker 5: Look, it's interesting because we have this problem in the

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Speaker 3: How's the gender split in the Young Liberals.

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Speaker 5: our youth movement, and that's a bad thing for the

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Speaker 5: long term issues in our party. We have a great alumni,

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Speaker 3: I'm really interested in that point, and I want to

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Speaker 3: What role do you think that it has in attracting

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Speaker 5: Look, the media spectrum for young people is absolutely look

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Speaker 3: Do you think Scott Morrison should now resign his seat?

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Speaker 5: Look, I was really disappointed in what happens with the

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Speaker 4: Look, that's a decision for Scott.

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Speaker 5: He's obviously just been re elected by the people of

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Speaker 3: And is that the consensus that you're hearing on the

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Speaker 5: As our review pointed out, there's been a minority of

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, absolutely we can.

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Speaker 5: I think Anthony Albernizi has already shown that he is

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Speaker 5: it doesn't contain a plan to address climate change, so

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Speaker 5: it's a lot of fluff and not much action. So

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Speaker 5: I think with that plus a new team, plus under

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Speaker 5: the leadership of Dunton, I think we have the ability

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Speaker 5: to make a very good shot at the next election

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Speaker 5: and win.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we'll end on this note, Clark, there's a pattern

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Speaker 3: of those very involved in youth politics to go on

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Speaker 3: to have long and successful federal careers themselves. Are we

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Speaker 3: going to be seeing you in federal politics in the

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Speaker 3: next decade?

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Speaker 5: Look, I'm really focused on the job of the young

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Speaker 5: Liberal president at the moment.

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Speaker 4: That's my passion.

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Speaker 5: We've got so much work to do internally in the

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Speaker 5: party in terms of policy, in terms of outfitting ourselves

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Speaker 5: ready for twenty twenty five, and of course we've got

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Speaker 5: a new South Wales state election just a few months time,

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Speaker 5: So that's my focus in my passion.

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Speaker 3: Clark Cooley, thank you so much for your time, Thank

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