1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Good morning and welcome to Wednesday, the seventeenth of November 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: a Zara Sideler joined by Billy fitz Simon's political journalists 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: at The Daily Ohs. And this is take two of 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: our podcast today. Because technology does not like us, nonetheless 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: we will jump into the news of the day, So 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: Billy take me through what is happening up north. 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 2: The Northern Territory has recorded nine new cases of COVID nineteen, 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: triggering an extension of the current lockdown in Catherine until 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,159 Speaker 2: at least next Monday. Chief Minister Michael Gunner said the 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 2: new cases are all household contacts of the previous two 11 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 2: cases and are all First Nations people. One of the 12 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: cases is a sixty five year old woman who has 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: been admitted to Royal Darwin Hospital. 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 1: Moving over to South Australia, where the government has introduced 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: a mandatory vaccine policy for all staff and volunteers within schools, 16 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: preschools and early childhood facilities. The education workers must have 17 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: at least their first hose of a COVID nineteen vaccine 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: by the tenth of December and must be fully vaccinated 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: before the school term begins next year. So that is 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: bound to drive up vaccination rates. 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: Police are investigating a theory that William Tyrell fell from 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 2: a balcony at the home of his foster grandparents in 23 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: Kendall on the New South Wales Mid North Coast in 24 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. New South Wales Police Commissioner Mick Fuller told 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: two GB on Tuesday, I'm confident that the team who 26 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: has the investigation at the moment can solve it. 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: And today's good news is that Sesame Street has announced 28 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: it will feature its first Asian American muppet named g Young. 29 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: The new character is quote a spunky seven year old 30 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: who loves to play her electric guitar and is always 31 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: willing to play a song with her friends on Sesame Street. 32 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: Over the last few days in Melbourne, we have seen 33 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: a number of people out on the street protesting and 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: we thought today we would run you through why there 35 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: are demonstrators out there on the streets and what it 36 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: is they are protesting against. So billieve run me through 37 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: this piece of legislation that the Victorian government has passed 38 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: through the Lower House and is hoping to pass through 39 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: the Upper House. 40 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: The Victorian government proposed this new set of pandemic laws 41 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: and the purpose is to grant the government powers to 42 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: declare a pandemic and enforce public health orders. So according 43 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: to the Victorian Government, the reason for this change is 44 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: to ensure greater accountability in Parliament as the key decision 45 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 2: makers will be publicly elected officials rather than unelected public 46 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: health officers. 47 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: So just to clarify what that means currently and throughout 48 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: the entire pandemic, we saw the Chief Health Officer, Brett 49 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: Sudden getting up and speaking about health orders and legislative 50 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: changes that were being brought in to protect Victorians. What 51 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: this proposal is aiming to do is move that power 52 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: away from the Chief Health Officer, who isn't actually elected 53 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: by the Victorian people, and moving that responsibility to an 54 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: elected official, so in this case the Health Minister, who 55 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: would be Martin Foley. Martin Foley said this year yesterday 56 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: about the piece of legislation and what the government hopes 57 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: to achieve a model. 58 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: Of reforms to the Public Health and Well Being Act 59 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: that we've introduced today as Premiers indicators are modeled on 60 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 3: particularly New Zealand and New South Wales equivalent legislation. But 61 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: take us further and cements this Victorian Parliament and this 62 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 3: public health Response as the most accountable, transparent and public 63 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: health focused system in the Commonwealth. 64 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: So Billy will run us through what the criticisms have 65 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: been in a little moment. But it's important to note 66 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: that the government has already introduced to the legislation and 67 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: already amendments have passed the Lower House. So these amendments 68 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: were a result of the Victorian government working with certain 69 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: crossbenches to achieve an outcome that worked for both of 70 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: them and where they landed. And the amendments that passed 71 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: mean that the Premier, whoever that might be, at whatever 72 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: stage this happens, we will need to have quote reasonable grounds 73 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: to declare a pandemic. The financial infringement so the penalty 74 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: for people who would have breached public health orders has 75 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: been halved. 76 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: Some other key amendments include there will be better protection 77 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 2: for the right to protest. There will also be an 78 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: independent oversight body that will be appropriately resourced and can 79 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 2: hold public hearings. The publishing and tabling of public health 80 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: advice will need to be done sooner. There was also 81 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: clarification that pandemic orders can only differentiate groups on the 82 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: basis of characteristics, where such factors relate to a serious 83 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: risk to public health. 84 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this was a big one. So this clarification 85 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: directly addressed some of the concerns that were raised by 86 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: critics of the bill. 87 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: And human rights protections were also strengthened in the amendments. 88 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: While the Government and certainly the cross Bench have made 89 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: clear why they see the need for this legislation to 90 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: pass through, there is a strong opposition to the bill 91 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: and Billy, we saw this in our comments section. We 92 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: posted about this yesterday and it's really very divisive. It's 93 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: been clear. So do you want to take me through 94 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: what some of the criticisms are and what people are 95 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: saying about the bill. 96 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: So before these amendments came in, there was a lot 97 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: of criticism, including from the Victorian Bar who was one 98 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 2: of the most prominent voices criticizing these new laws. The 99 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: Victorian Bar wasn't the only ones criticizing the amendments. The 100 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: Victorian Opposition has also criticized the bill, with Opposition leader 101 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 2: Matthew Guy declaring he's quote never seen such an attack 102 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 2: on Australian democracy. 103 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: So while we've seen criticism from the legal profession and 104 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: the other side of politics, there has also been a 105 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: strong opposition that has manifested in these protests that we've 106 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: been seeing over the last few nights. Here's a grab 107 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: of why. Some protesters said that they were showing up 108 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: strong for Australia. 109 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 2: I'm standing here for my grandchildren. 110 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 3: Believing choice and we feel like those choices have been 111 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 3: taken away. 112 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: And the protests have really escalated these past few days. 113 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: On Monday night, a group of demonstrators were seen with 114 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 2: an inflatable Daniel Andrews on a makeshift gallo and protesters 115 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: were also chanting kill the bill. 116 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: It's also become quite personal, especially for some key cross 117 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: bench MPs. Animal Justice Party MP Andy Medic told the 118 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: Age that his house had been targeted by quote abusive 119 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: protesters who had arrived and demonstrated in his personal space 120 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: against the proposed law. We've also seen reports of used 121 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: condoms and really really visceral language being sent to these 122 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: crossbenches in regards to their support for this bill. 123 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,679 Speaker 2: And so the bill is expected to pass the Upper 124 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: House before the current state of emergency expires on the 125 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: fifteenth of December. 126 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: Will certainly keep you updated on anything that happens to 127 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: this bill, and especially if and when it passes the 128 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: Upper House until then. If you're looking for something to 129 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: listen to that spit longer form, have it. Listened to 130 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: Billy's second podcast from Young Dumb and Informed. 131 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: Today's episode of Young Dumb and Informed explores the challenges 132 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: that many young people face when it comes to accessing 133 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 2: mental health services. And we know that given the past 134 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: two years we've all had, demand for mental health services 135 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: has never been higher, and also accessing mental health services 136 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: has never been harder. 137 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 1: Give it a listen, let us know what you think, 138 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: and most of all, have a wonderful Wednesday.