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Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me.

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Speaker 2: Lola Berry, author, nutritionist, and yoga teacher join me as

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Speaker 2: we get to know these guests and learn about how

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Speaker 2: their failures have ultimately shaped their dreams.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lola Berry get a, It's

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Speaker 1: lolls here.

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Speaker 2: Today's guest is Kira Rumble or, if you follow her

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Speaker 2: on Insta, Crumble.

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Speaker 1: This girl is a pocket dynamo.

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Speaker 2: She's bright, bubbly, uber, successful, and she legit doesn't stop.

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Speaker 2: She is the creator and CEO of Crumbled Foods, so

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Speaker 2: she makes beauty bites. So I think little snack bars

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Speaker 2: that are great for your hair, skin, nails, and they

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Speaker 2: taste dealish. She was traveling to Malbs for a work

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Speaker 2: gig and I said, oh mate, I'd love to get

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Speaker 2: you on the potty. She goes, you know what, Lola's off.

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Speaker 2: Fly in an hour early, pick me up from the airport.

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Speaker 2: We can do the potty in the car. And I

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Speaker 2: was like, oh my goodness, you are amazing, but also wow,

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Speaker 2: you do not stop. She is fierce, so powerful, such

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Speaker 2: a go getter. Trigger warning here we do talk about

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Speaker 2: sexual abuse and miscarriages. Kira, Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: being so vulnerable and open. I really hope you guys

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Speaker 2: enjoy this podcast.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hi, I'm.

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Speaker 2: So excited because can we just set the scene for

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Speaker 2: a sec. I have the incredible, incredible Kira Rumble here.

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Speaker 2: But mate, what's just happened in the last twenty minutes

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Speaker 2: half an hour?

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Speaker 4: So Lola has decided to be a very very gracious

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Speaker 4: potty host and pick me up from the airport, and

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Speaker 4: we're sitting in her car waiting to go for an event.

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Speaker 3: I just love.

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Speaker 2: We figured out last week on Insta that we were

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Speaker 2: going to be the same event, and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: if you got much time in Malbs. I'm thinking, oh,

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Speaker 2: you know, like she might have a day or two here,

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Speaker 2: just a little business go getter.

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Speaker 3: And He's like, what we do in the car?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And I was like, it's a phenomenal.

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Speaker 5: I was like, what a little hustler.

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Speaker 2: And that is why I am so excited to kind

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Speaker 2: of like dive straight into this with you, because I

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Speaker 2: went down the googling look like looking everything about you are.

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Speaker 2: I now have an obsession with dash ounds thanks to you,

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Speaker 2: Hercules and Hector right, Oh my god, brothers.

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Speaker 3: And their little terrors sometimes.

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Speaker 4: Are so naughty Hector has a problem with our underwear

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Speaker 4: and socks. And just this morning, as soon as I

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Speaker 4: got dropped off at the train station to go down

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Speaker 4: to the airport, my partner mersaged me two pairs of

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Speaker 4: underwear he's gotten into in the space of ten minutes.

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Speaker 3: Little bugger. Oh so cuteyoh so cute.

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Speaker 2: So I do want to start at the start, just

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Speaker 2: because when I started researching you, because to me, I'm

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Speaker 2: like a massive fan of beauty bites, which we're going

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Speaker 2: to speak about this so delicious, the way you need

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Speaker 2: to get to Priceline and get them more water Someoneline.

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Speaker 2: You are a little like it's almost like you were

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Speaker 2: a born overachiever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It was a bit of a downfall for me for

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Speaker 4: a long time, but I think that I've really taken

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Speaker 4: it from strength from strength over the past couple of years.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, so you were a skier, right, You competed

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Speaker 5: with skiing from a young age.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I was skiing quite competitively.

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Speaker 4: My dad loved skiing and I think that he really

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Speaker 4: So I really learned quickly about training and discipline and

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Speaker 4: keeping a good regimen.

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Speaker 3: You had a physio like the age of Yeah, I was.

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Speaker 3: I just love sport.

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Speaker 4: You know, I consider myself now to be quite academic,

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Speaker 4: but back then I had no interest. And you know,

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Speaker 4: my sister is incredibly, incredibly smart, and so I was

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Speaker 4: always the sporty kid, not the academic kid.

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Speaker 3: I prove my parents wrong during my ages.

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Speaker 5: See though, We're like, oh, you got above ninety. Is

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Speaker 5: that wrong? Yeah, They're like, oh, okay, so you've always

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Speaker 3: You've always been a go getter.

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Speaker 2: I think you've been a go getter from what I've

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Speaker 2: read more than just academically though, Like you've always kind

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Speaker 5: Think the interesting thing about you is your brain isn't linear.

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Speaker 3: You're quite creative. Yeah, and I'm stubborn.

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Speaker 5: What's your star site?

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Speaker 3: Sad Joe? Are you a saggy? I love?

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Speaker 4: I'm on the Cusp the twentieth of December, So Cusp

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Speaker 4: of Capricorn.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so that's why you're so good at business.

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Speaker 2: Capcon's the business kids.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just I think I'm very stubborn and I have

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Speaker 4: a very good vision of where my future's going. Now.

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Speaker 2: Mate, we've been just talking for the last fifteen minutes

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Speaker 2: about goals and dreams, and I'm like, I just need

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: It hasn't always been that way, though, and I think

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Speaker 4: that this is what's really exciting me about coming on

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Speaker 4: and talking about some things, because without failures, you can't

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Speaker 4: have success. And by no means I'm saying that I've

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Speaker 4: got success at the moment, but I feel like I'm

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Speaker 4: finally on the path to you know, create my my

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Speaker 3: In yoga, not to yoga, you out yogi.

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Speaker 2: There's a word called dharma, yes, and that means to

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Speaker 2: live purpose. But in my mind it's like march to

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Speaker 2: the beaty of your own drum, and I feel like

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Speaker 2: that's what you do.

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Speaker 2: So on the way here, you were like, I'm going

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Speaker 2: to surprise you with my failures. So this is like

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Speaker 2: totally and as you know, this podcast is just about

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Speaker 2: celebrating the fuck ups. Sorry sorry for swearing, but like

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Speaker 2: it's celebrating the times where you're like I'm totally I've

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Speaker 2: got this shit together, and then it's almost like you're

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Speaker 3: Yep. Have you had a few of those moments? Absolutely?

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Speaker 3: And I used to eat the wrong food.

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Speaker 4: So after I stopped skiing, I started eating a lot

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Speaker 4: you know, I became insulin resistant and everything like that.

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Speaker 4: me out. And obviously I then just used my love

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Speaker 2: I read like the Donna Hay or Nigella of kind

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, wit did you find out information?

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Speaker 5: I told you?

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Speaker 4: I was like, oh, yeah, so I'm impressed. I didn't

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Speaker 4: know that I was even never pop. Yeah, So I

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Speaker 4: wanted to call my first blog. I remember I was

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Speaker 4: Veggie Patch Girl, and he just laughed and kept on walking.

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Speaker 4: In hindsight, it was when I was vegetarian.

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Speaker 3: I think that's cute.

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Speaker 5: It's very cute, but.

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Speaker 3: Not when you're a twenty eight year old.

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Speaker 4: That is now my whole food business is based off

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Speaker 4: the business name that I created.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, this is true.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, that was really funny. I'm very impressed

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Speaker 3: I'm a virgo. We're very like how many pages of

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Speaker 3: Google were you in? Oh? I watched videos? Yeah, man,

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Speaker 2: You're so cum and you have just opened up the

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Speaker 2: door for me here with the business and crumble and

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Speaker 2: I'm effing test with the white chocolate and rasbery And

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Speaker 2: to be honest, I also love the lemon Is it

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Speaker 2: I may have had like fifteen of each because you

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Speaker 4: Oh they're yeah, So I'm I'm a big advocate for

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Speaker 4: so for those of you that don't know Beauty Bytes,

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Speaker 4: So beauty Bytes are Australie's first fully functional beauty and

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Speaker 3: Be eating and well even this morning, you had a

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Speaker 2: My boyfriend was like, Matt's like, just get just get

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Speaker 3: And you were like, let's just set up. We'll set up.

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Speaker 5: Why not.

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Speaker 3: It's a beautiful day now in sunny Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's come good. Well wait for another twenty minutes,

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Speaker 2: it'll be a hailstorm. What I want to ask about

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Speaker 2: Beautye Byes and Crumbled Foods all that jazz is like

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Speaker 2: you have created and I hope you don't miss saying

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Speaker 2: this is a bit of an empire.

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Speaker 3: Yeah really yeah, And I'm just.

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Speaker 2: Going to imagine that you've hit a few like to people,

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Speaker 2: like I imagine people trying like it's so a good

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Speaker 3: People like buy it?

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Speaker 5: And then you see all like do people say you

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Speaker 2: I don't know, like if people like digged you around

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Speaker 4: So Crumbled Foods began when I wanted to do a

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Speaker 3: And this was back when protein balls. Yeah, years ago,

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Speaker 2: Like it's so refreshing to hear the shit storm before

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Speaker 4: You know this, little things like distributors just going, oh, no,

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Speaker 4: And yes, you know, you still get knocked back and

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Speaker 3: Well, do you know what you just awakened in me?

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Speaker 2: Like you found It took time, but you found people

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Speaker 3: We would be going into meetings and they'd be talking

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Speaker 4: And that is what really, you know, I'm not working

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Speaker 3: I think it needs to be a partnership. It's a

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Speaker 2: I'll walk into a meeting and if someone's rude to me,

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Speaker 5: I'm so comfortable in that fia now, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I think you need.

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Speaker 5: You need.

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Speaker 2: You need to be able to be in a business

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Speaker 5: And I think real is fucking rare.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, And you are so what.

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Speaker 2: you light up when you're talking about beau bites or

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Speaker 2: like the new projects you've got going on, it's so

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Speaker 3: That's just like the time measure me. Yeah, but my

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Speaker 2: And then like keep like your private like personal life

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Speaker 4: So for me, my privacy and my private life came

445
00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 4: full circle in January this year. And for me, my

446
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 4: partner takes a very private approach, you know, and that's

447
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 4: I respect his privacy and you know, you won't see

448
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 4: much of him on my Instagram, and if you do,

449
00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 4: he's a cranky shit.

450
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 3: Me and my boyfriend are like quick quick, so funny

451
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,439
Speaker 3: y yeah, yeah, yeah, it's very funny.

452
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 4: But anyway, So I had never spoken about my fertility journey,

453
00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 4: and I had gone through two miscarriages, and I just

454
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 4: always thought, you know, it's it's no one's business, it's

455
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 4: you know, I I'm not ready. And now I'm like,

456
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 4: I'm telling everyone everything. And I'm a big oversharer and

457
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 4: probably that's one of my biggest downfalls now. But now

458
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,560
Speaker 4: I feel like I am empowered by my journeys, and

459
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 4: so in January we found out that all in decemby,

460
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 4: I found out that I was pregnant, and instantly I

461
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 4: knew something was wrong. And obviously I was like, oh gosh,

462
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 4: this is it's all going to happen again. And I

463
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 4: went into the doctors in the emergency room multiple times

464
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 4: with pain and my left hand side, and I just said,

465
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 4: you know, there's something not right, and they were, you know,

466
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 4: under the pump, very dismissive. It's very emotional what you're

467
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 4: going through, you know, considering that you've had two miscarriages

468
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 4: in the past.

469
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 3: Let's just see.

470
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 4: Anyway, So I ended up having another miscarriage, and I

471
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,639
Speaker 4: really I thought that was it. And I thought, you

472
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 4: know what, I couldn't find much online about the different

473
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 4: stages of grief and going through miscarriages.

474
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 3: And I couldn't find much.

475
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 4: You know, my Instagram's filled with glowing pregnant women and

476
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,080
Speaker 4: young moms, and it really.

477
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 3: Broke me this time. Ah, it broke me, and I thought,

478
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 3: you know what, I need to.

479
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 4: Start speaking about this because for every pregnant, glowing mother

480
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 4: that has had, you know, the most amazing gift given

481
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 4: to them, which they are also appreciative and thankful for.

482
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 4: There's that, there's all those women can't oh that's and that.

483
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 4: I was like, you know what, I need to actually

484
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 4: start speaking about this because if I can't find someone

485
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 4: else being vulnerable going through all that horrible experience, then

486
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 4: what what will.

487
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 3: Anyone else do?

488
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 4: And so anyway, it was actually a really horrific pregnancy

489
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 4: because it was twins and so it was called a

490
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 4: heterotopic pregnancy, which was completely undiagnosed, and I nearly bled

491
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 4: to death, and they completely after I'd had the miscarriage,

492
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 4: they were like, it's very emotional, you know, here's here's

493
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 4: the number for you to get help. And I'm like, mate,

494
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 4: I have been through emotional shit before. There's actually something

495
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 4: physically wrong with me. I've got classic ectopic pregnancy symptoms.

496
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 4: And my partner was meant to go away for a

497
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,639
Speaker 4: bucks in Bali, and so he was like, are you

498
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 4: sure you're okay? And I'm like, I'm fine. I think

499
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 4: I just need to go get another scan. I just

500
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 4: don't feel like everything's passed or or something something's not right.

501
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 5: Can't that mother's intuition?

502
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew I was feeling light headed.

503
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 4: I had like diarrhea, which is a really classic ectopic pregnancy.

504
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 4: Soon had the shoulder tip pain. I was like, there

505
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 4: is something wrong and I had one of my girlfriend's

506
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 4: shoulder tip pains ectopic pregnants. Really yeah, And so I

507
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 4: have one of my other girlfriends who's just gone into labor.

508
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 5: Today have excited. I saw the little screen.

509
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 4: She was talking about how shit airlines were, and then

510
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 4: I was like, hey, when when are they producing you?

511
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 3: She's like right now. I'm like not right now, sends

512
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 3: me a photo She like they just broke my water.

513
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 4: So I was like, ah, but anyway, so she was like,

514
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 4: you need to go and get another scan because this

515
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 4: is not right.

516
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that you've got an ectopic pregnancy.

517
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 4: And I'm like, but I've and this is completely trigger

518
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 4: warning for anyone that is and hopefully you put something

519
00:24:59,280 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 4: at the course.

520
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 3: I passed the fetus, so I knew that I had

521
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 3: had a miscarriage, and I was like, okay.

522
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 4: This is and I'm smiling as I'm saying it because

523
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 4: I don't want to ball into tears.

524
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 5: But and we're about to go into it, and so

525
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm like cracking you open and then no, no, no.

526
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 3: No, I'm okay.

527
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 4: And then anyway, so I went up to get a

528
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 4: scam and the girl it was like the second time

529
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 4: that she'd scammed me, and she's like, can you So

530
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 4: my partner didn't come up with me because I was like,

531
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 4: I'll be fine.

532
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: You get you pack your bags. I can be fine

533
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 3: like it, there's nothing else they're going to tell me it.

534
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 3: Ca'll be fine.

535
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 4: And she's like, can you just wait here for a

536
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 4: little bit, and she went and got someone else and

537
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 4: I was just like, oh my god, has it survived?

538
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 4: That was my instant feeling. I'm like, oh, we're okay.

539
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 4: And then she's like I need you to go straight

540
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 4: up to an emergency and I'm like why and she's like,

541
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 4: I can't give you too much information what, but I

542
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 4: need you to go straight up there. We've called the hospital,

543
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 4: they're expecting you. And so I just broke down. And

544
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 4: so I at a YouTube video and it's like the

545
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 4: most ugliest crying that you'll ever see. And it's like

546
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 4: I look back and I'm like, oh, like, I still

547
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 4: get so upset looking at it. But I was like

548
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 4: I need to, you know, someone needs to know that

549
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 4: if they're ever in that situation. It's so okay to

550
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 4: cry and it's so okay to be upset.

551
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 3: But like, this is the thing.

552
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 5: This is where I'm like in aura of you, do

553
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 5: you know how many women will be listening to this, going, holy.

554
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: Fuck, I've been through this. There'll be so many women.

555
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: It's like therapy.

556
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 5: No one talks about.

557
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 2: People only talk about beautiful little babies and glowing pregnant women.

558
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 5: Nobody talks about the fucking shit fight that youve got

559
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 5: to do to get there.

560
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and like you do have the occasional people that

561
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 4: talk about the IVF journey, but oh, it's just it's hard.

562
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 4: It was really hard then. And so I went and

563
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 4: got my partner and we went up to the hospital

564
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 4: and the nurses because I'm a high risk pregnancy, they

565
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 4: called me and they're like, look, we think you've had twins.

566
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 3: And so again I'm like, oh my god, I hope,

567
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I've got to do it. And I'd

568
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 3: always said, Mum went to a.

569
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 4: Psychic person years ago and they said that I was

570
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 4: going to have two sets of twins. So I was like, yes,

571
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 4: my goodness, yes, because we've got twins all in our family.

572
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 4: And then anyway, so I get rushed in and they're like, look,

573
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 4: you've got a dual pregnancy. So one was in the

574
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 4: uterus which miscarried, and then we've got one in the

575
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 4: phillopian tube. And the way that the doctors and the

576
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 4: surgeons handled that whole duels for another story.

577
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 3: But anyway, so very like matter of fact, no, but

578
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 3: they were like, well, the likelihood.

579
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 4: Of this actually being a heterotopic pregnancy is so rare,

580
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 4: you'll be in and out of surgery. Would just be

581
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 4: exploration all of this horrible thing, because it's like one

582
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 4: in twenty thousand or something has this heterotopic pregnancy and

583
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 4: it's really common in IVF and of course a little

584
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 4: old crummy gets it. But yeah, but you know, and

585
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 4: then they prolonged because it was over the Australia Day

586
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 4: weekend long weekend, and so there were all of these

587
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 4: people that were coming in, so they kept on pushing

588
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 4: my surgery back. Anyway, so it was just such a

589
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 4: horrible ordeal and my tube ruptured and it was just

590
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 4: such a hard thing for me to go through because

591
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 4: it's this feeling of my body's failed me and why

592
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 4: and obviously I know that it's not my body, you know,

593
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 4: and it's a way of just passing what wasn't meant

594
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 4: to be. And you know, it's still hard, and I

595
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 4: still am like that weirdo that looks at babies in

596
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 4: the most and most women go, you know, like, I

597
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 4: am that woman that looks at your baby, not you,

598
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 4: and just doats and.

599
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 3: Tries to smile at them.

600
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 4: And it was this woman that was in the Wooly

601
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 4: supermarket car park and she had like a two year

602
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 4: old that was screaming, and she had this newborn and

603
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 4: she was like struggling.

604
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 3: I was like, do you need any help? And she's like, nah,

605
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 3: I'm right and then her.

606
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 4: Husband like shuts the boot and he looks over and

607
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 4: she's like looking at me, and she like looked and

608
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 4: she's like, no, you're obviously say first, and you obviously

609
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 4: just thought that you didn't see my husband.

610
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: And my boyfriend sitting in the car. And he's like

611
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: you're a looney and he's like what you just wanted

612
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 3: to cut all.

613
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 4: I'm like, I didn't see the husband there, but very

614
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 4: but yeah, being so back to being open, I decided

615
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 4: not to so sorry, I decided without telling my partner

616
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 4: that I wanted to start speaking about it, and he's

617
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 4: just like, oh yeah, there's that fine line between too

618
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 4: much info and keeping your private life private. And I

619
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 4: was like, there's a reason, and this is there's a

620
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 4: big reason why I need to do this, and it's

621
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 4: not too for any other reason than to actually start

622
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 4: speaking about it to you know, share my story and

623
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 4: it needs to be a voice.

624
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: It has to be.

625
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 4: And so I put up stuff on Instagram stories and

626
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 4: he's just like, oh my god, what did I die?

627
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 3: I watched that?

628
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 4: No, I know.

629
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 6: Yeah.

630
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 4: And then after like half an hour and I told

631
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 4: this to another girl in another partty, he came down

632
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 4: and he's like, I am so sorry, and he's like

633
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 4: this is and he's like, I've never seen so many

634
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 4: people light up my inbox just going you know, this

635
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 4: has happened to me. I'm going through this and it's

636
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 4: just I really struggled for like a good eight weeks

637
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 4: after that, because every day they'd be fifty women.

638
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: Also like your partner like, yeah, that's gonna have a

639
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: massive impact on like the whole experience, the whole ordeal.

640
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: Like it's gonna have an impact on him too.

641
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 4: Oh no, he's a bloke like he really He's like, Oh,

642
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 4: I don't want my friends to ask me questions and

643
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 4: then like, you know, I got a write up in

644
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 4: like some magazines and then'd send it to him and

645
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 4: he's just like, oh, but I think he looked past

646
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 4: his private life and.

647
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 5: This I meant.

648
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: What I meant was, I was like, it would have

649
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: been heartbreaking for him to even be in the scenario

650
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: with you.

651
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 4: I think he I think it was really hard for

652
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 4: him to see me in pain and to see me

653
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 4: get knocked back so many times by the hospital, with

654
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: them saying nothing's wrong, and I'm like, I know something's wrong,

655
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 4: and you know that's like it's It's been hard because

656
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 4: I still am a private person. But I'm realizing that

657
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 4: the power of speaking up and speaking out about my failures,

658
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 4: which is what this podcast is about, is so important.

659
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 3: Because every I feel I did this whole thing where.

660
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 4: I would be on Instagram for hours going oh, look

661
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 4: at them with their baby, and I was just like,

662
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,239
Speaker 4: hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on him,

663
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 4: this is not right. You need to actually take a

664
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 4: step back and actually, if something doesn't light you up

665
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 4: on your Instagram.

666
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: Put the phone down.

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00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 5: Unfollowing them the spark joy you're doing the whole spark

668
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 5: joy has spark.

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Speaker 3: Joy Marie Kondo. But yeah, I think it's just important

670
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 3: to talk about everything.

671
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: You opening up about that will have helped more women

672
00:31:54,200 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 2: than again, Like you've been so vulnerable and brave and

673
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: just open today and it makes me I was already

674
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 2: a fan, but I'm invested. Oh, I'm like, I just want,

675
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: Like I don't doubt for one second that you won't

676
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 2: get what you want in this world.

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00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah.

678
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: And the power of you sharing and being open and

679
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: being vulnerable not will just help people, but calmically, that's

680
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: healing energy, Like that's that's making a safe space for

681
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: people to be like, I feel like shit right now,

682
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: and it's totally okay to feel this way. And that's

683
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: what you're doing. That's powerful. You're letting people know that

684
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: shit thing happens. Shit things happen to really good people,

685
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 2: and it's okay to feel really sad and depressed and

686
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: down and and like you failed yourself and like I

687
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: can't imagine what that would be like, but I imagine

688
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: there'd be this sense of like blaming yourself and the

689
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: whole shame thing again and all the other stuff.

690
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 3: But it's almost into linked a weird way.

691
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: But you're an amazing human being and I'm so excited

692
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: to watch the rest of your journey and.

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Speaker 5: To be part of it too.

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Speaker 3: I feel I feel very like but.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for sharing today, and everybody listening please,

696
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: I'll explain everything about how epic cre is in the outright,

697
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: about like get.

698
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 5: Onto beauty bites as well. They're delicious.

699
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: You can hear they're made with integrity, and you can

700
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: hear you just a fucking real girl like going after dreams,

701
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: living her life, stumbling in moments and getting back up,

702
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: and that's what you embody so perfectly honored to have

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Speaker 2: you here.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. And I think just my little parting

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00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: parting words is for me.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing that's different between me and you and anyone

707
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 4: else about having your own business or anything like that,

708
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 4: but it's about finally realizing that you're asked does actually

709
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 4: define your future in a way. And I know people

710
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 4: say it doesn't, but I think that it does. Like

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00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 4: everything that's happened to me and to happen to you

712
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 4: and to happen to anyone walking down the street is

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00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 4: for a reason. And it's whether or not you decide

714
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 4: to let it overcome you, which I did for years

715
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 4: saying yeah, or for you to actually realize that you

716
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 4: can use this and turn yourself into this power machine.

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Speaker 3: Have you heard the Steve Jobs quote? You will love this.

718
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 2: So sometimes it feels like life is throwing bricks at

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Speaker 2: your head. Yep, And he said it's not until you

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00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: look back and can connect the dots that you're like, ah,

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00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 2: that happened.

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Speaker 5: So I could feel that, learn that and grow and

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Speaker 5: get better.

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Speaker 3: Love Steve Jobs.

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Speaker 2: I know it's incredible. It's called connecting the dots. It's

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00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 2: a famous Steve Jobs guy. But it's like he's like

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00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: sometimes you just feel like he's oh, it's like you're

728
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 2: hitting your head against the brick wall and he has

729
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: it's not until you look back and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I just needed to connect the dots.

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Speaker 3: These things to happen. Yeah, you're incredible.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I'm so ready to go. Let's go, let's go have

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Speaker 3: some food. You're incredible. Thank you so so much much

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Speaker 3: chatting to you. Bye bye