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Speaker 1: So we've got a lot of grand plans going on,

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Speaker 1: our Powerball numbers and the draw is at eighty million dollars,

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Speaker 1: standing here. Of course there would be. Wells Mayos. Think

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Speaker 1: What do you do? Well? We actually had a friend

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Speaker 1: she was given that scratchy buy her brother on Christmas

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Speaker 1: I mean two hundred thousands a little bit different than

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Speaker 1: eighty million, but I still feel like you've got to

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Speaker 1: give your family something. Well, two hundred thousand dollars is

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Speaker 1: not life changing in the sense if you can't quit

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just not really enough to quit your job. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's not life changing, But eighty million dollars is life changing,

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Speaker 1: and I reckon you know, if you win it with

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Speaker 1: and then after a while you're like No, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: You know? Good? Is? I think that it really depends

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Speaker 1: but I feel like it would be really hard to

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Speaker 1: Can I get this on air that if you win,

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Speaker 1: lip fuller for the first time in a vlog. However,

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Speaker 1: she hasn't really mentioned it since on inte Instagram or

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Speaker 1: on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: All right, sisters. In my last Insta stories and in

436
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Speaker 3: my Instagram pictures, a lot of people have been asking

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Speaker 3: the same question, and that question is did I get

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Speaker 3: my lips done? It made a YouTube channel, and I

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Speaker 3: said I would always be completely honest with you guys

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Speaker 3: and tell you what does and doesn't work as a

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Speaker 3: viewer on YouTube, like the people that I subscribe to,

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Speaker 3: I only like watching people who are real in the

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Speaker 3: way that they don't try to hide things. I just

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Speaker 3: want you to be honest, and that is one thing

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Speaker 3: that I've always promised you guys. I will always be honest.

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Speaker 3: So the answer is, yes, I did get a little

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Speaker 3: bit of lip filler in my lips. I just thought

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Speaker 3: I wanted to sit down here, be honest with you

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Speaker 3: and tell you why. But they asked it a little

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Speaker 3: bit swollen. A week ago, I got my lips done,

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Speaker 3: and honestly, it was so random. So a lot of

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Speaker 3: you guys have already noticed, and I have got a

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Speaker 3: few comments about people asking me what the bubble on

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Speaker 3: my lip was. It was scar tissues too went completely

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Speaker 3: through my lip and when it healed, it healed like

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Speaker 3: a big bubble and I was like, you know what,

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Speaker 3: how should I yolo? I just want to see what

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Speaker 3: it looks like. I was just super curious. You do

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Speaker 3: disintegrate hands on your metabolism. I do have quite a

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Speaker 3: fast time, so I'm sure they'll be gone in like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, six months or so. So I got

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Speaker 3: them done. I got like the smallest amount of done it.

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Speaker 3: They are still a little bit swollen, but I'm really

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Speaker 3: really happy with how they turned out. Are she real quick?

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Speaker 1: Look?

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Speaker 3: So that's what they look like. This is like my channel,

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Speaker 3: and my channel is called Sarah's Day, and I just

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Speaker 3: want to be honest and that was part of my day.

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Speaker 1: Well, she was quite honest in saying that she started

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Speaker 1: to get lip fillers because she had a scar on

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Speaker 1: her lip that she wanted to conceal. And I'm guessing

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Speaker 1: because she's continued to do it and they have got

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Speaker 1: a little bit bigger that she clearly enjoys the way

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Speaker 1: that they look as well. Followers actually bombarded Sarah's latest

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Speaker 1: Instagram post, which was a photo that showed off her

476
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Speaker 1: lips and they looked a lot plumper, and the post

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Speaker 1: was actually talking about her skincare routine, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of people asked have you had lip fillers? And Sarah

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Speaker 1: responded to numerous comments saying, yes, I have. I've actually

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Speaker 1: done a YouTube video about it in the past, but

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Speaker 1: I haven't had it done recently because I didn't do

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Speaker 1: it while I was pregnant and I haven't done it

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Speaker 1: while I was breastfeeding Fox. Yeah, she was pretty open

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Speaker 1: in the comment. She even said how many meals of

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Speaker 1: feeler she gets done, and she answered multiple questions about it. However,

486
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Speaker 1: some people think it's not enough and they feel like

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Speaker 1: that she should be more transparent every time she gets

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Speaker 1: lipfiller done. What do you guys think? I think she

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Speaker 1: has been very transparent. She's put out a YouTube video

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Speaker 1: entitled do I get lip Fillers, which He's responded to

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Speaker 1: and explained yes. She hasn't touched on it since, but

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Speaker 1: I believe that she probably didn't want to look like

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Speaker 1: she was promoting it and going into too much of

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Speaker 1: an extreme detail about what she gets done. I feel

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Speaker 1: like a lot of people are claiming that Sarah hasn't

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Speaker 1: been transparent about the process because she hasn't constantly updated

497
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Speaker 1: people that she's got filler, and people are like, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: she posted a video three years ago However, it's important

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Speaker 1: to note that yes, she did get it done for

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Speaker 1: the first time three years ago. However, she was pregnant

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Speaker 1: and breastfeeding in the meantime so stopped getting the procedure done.

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Speaker 1: So she's only recently been getting lip filler again, and

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Speaker 1: she's also enlisted the help of a new technician to

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Speaker 1: do it, so she potentially could have been waiting for

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Speaker 1: the full effect of the lip filler before she started

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Speaker 1: talking about it making recommendations, and she was really open

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Speaker 1: and honest in the comments about the process. That is

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Speaker 1: a really good point you make, Kate, because I do

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Speaker 1: think it is really irresponsible as an influencer to be

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Speaker 1: promoting something that you haven't tested and trialed yourself, particularly

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Speaker 1: when it is a cosmetic procedure. So in this case,

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Speaker 1: that may have been why she hasn't spoken about it recently. Well,

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Speaker 1: it also might be the case that she doesn't really

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Speaker 1: want to constantly be talking about what procedures she's had

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Speaker 1: done because she has a very young and impressionable audience.

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Speaker 1: And this is something that Tully Smythe actually spoke about

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Speaker 1: on her podcast this week, and she said she got

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Speaker 1: lots of people in her DMS asking if she's had

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Speaker 1: botox and lipfiller, and she said, she's really happy to

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Speaker 1: confirm that she has had those procedures, but she doesn't

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Speaker 1: feel right actually promoting it. And she said, look, I

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Speaker 1: could get a lot of procedures for free if I

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Speaker 1: promoted them on Instagram. But she said if she saw

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Speaker 1: people promoting that when she was young, she would have

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Speaker 1: found it very triggering, and perhaps Sarah is in the

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Speaker 1: same boat in that instance. I think the real issue

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Speaker 1: is that people find it incredibly hypocritical of Sarah to

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Speaker 1: get lip filler, and I've got to agree, because it

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Speaker 1: goes very much against her personal brand. I mean, she's

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Speaker 1: labeled herself as a holistic health princess. She actually has

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Speaker 1: products on the market that don't have nasty chemicals in it.

532
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Speaker 1: And there was that very controversial time when she promoted

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Speaker 1: curing her sin three through natural remedies, which was extremely

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Speaker 1: dangerous and extremely wrong. So I can totally see why

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Speaker 1: people think, oh, my gosh, how hypocritical to be getting

536
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Speaker 1: lip filler. However, the real question that was posed online

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Speaker 1: was whether it's okay for Sarah to promote skin care

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Speaker 1: products if she is using lip filler. Now, my thoughts

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Speaker 1: around that were that the skin products aren't actually claiming

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Speaker 1: to plump up her lips or make her lips look bigger,

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Speaker 1: they're actually to do with her skin texture. Because Sarah

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Speaker 1: made it big on YouTube promoting the fact that she

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Speaker 1: managed to cure her acne with natural methods, I could

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Speaker 1: understand if she was promoting a product that was like

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Speaker 1: promising to plump your lips up like Sarah's, or a

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Speaker 1: lip liner. I mean, she does have Smoochy Bar, but

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Speaker 1: that's really a hydrating mask. She's never said get plump

548
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Speaker 1: lips but like me by using Smoochi Bar. But I

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Speaker 1: mean if that's the case, does that mean that Kylie

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Speaker 1: Jenner can't bring out her lip kits. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: something that's emphasizing the look of people's lips. I mean

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Speaker 1: if every influencer who had some form of plastic surgery

553
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Speaker 1: or lip fillers or botox wasn't allowed to promote skincare,

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Speaker 1: we wouldn't see any skincare being promoted online. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: that's even to do with skin treatments. Like Olivia Rodgers

556
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Speaker 1: put up the other day that she was getting skin

557
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Speaker 1: needling done. Now, she works with a lot of skincare companies.

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Speaker 1: Does that mean she can't promote the skincare company to

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Speaker 1: go off the back of your Kylie Jenner common I

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Speaker 1: listened to this really great podcast on the weekend called

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Speaker 1: Even the Rich, and they spoke about how Kylie Jenner

562
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Speaker 1: was so insecure about her lips and people talking about

563
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Speaker 1: her getting lip filler, that she decided to capitalize on

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Speaker 1: her biggest insecurity. So I actually love the fact that

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Speaker 1: Kylie Jenner did that. Well, another influencer who who quite

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Speaker 1: clearly does get lip filler, but that hasn't been open

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Speaker 1: about it, and of course that's a personal decision, so

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to throw shade on her. But Sammy

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Speaker 1: Robinson has noticeably plumper lips and she is someone that

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Speaker 1: is also a part of the health and wellness industry.

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Speaker 1: She's got her own program called Sammy Active. She also

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Speaker 1: works with a lot of skincare companies. But no one

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Speaker 1: gets up in arms about the fact that she does that.

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Speaker 1: But why with Sarah's Day? To be fair, I think

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Speaker 1: that Sarah's Day does have a bit of a target

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Speaker 1: on her back because she is a self proclaimed holistic

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Speaker 1: health princess. So the fact that you are so against

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Speaker 1: putting any sort of chemicals on yourself or you know,

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Speaker 1: from your food, and then you're happy to put poison

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Speaker 1: into your face. I think that's what people have more

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Speaker 1: of an issue, must be honest, it's like a sport

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Speaker 1: to hate on Sarah's Day at the moment. I think

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Speaker 1: there has really been a shift away from people being

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Speaker 1: ashamed of getting cosmetic surgery to then now owning it.

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Speaker 1: And I think it is really difficult because there are

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Speaker 1: just two different frames of mind about whether you should

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Speaker 1: be promoting it and being real or whether you do

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Speaker 1: hide it. So I think that's what a situation that

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Speaker 1: Sarah is in at the moment, and it's probably an

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Speaker 1: unpopular opinion, but I tend to agree with the route

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Speaker 1: that Tully and also Sarah's Day have gone down. I

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Speaker 1: think they have said, yeah, we do get it, but

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Speaker 1: they're not trying to make it something that's just such

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Speaker 1: a normal procedure. You know. People are like, oh, well

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Speaker 1: Sarah got her hair done, so why doesn't she say oh,

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00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: I got my lips done? But that really normalizes something

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00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: to thirteen year olds and thinks oh okay, so I

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Speaker 1: get my hair dyed and then I get my lips done,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think that that's really a very safe

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Speaker 1: thing to do. And yes, Sarah has been very problematic

601
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: and very unsafe with some of her health advice she's given,

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Speaker 1: But can't we actually say, oh, well, this is something

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00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: good that she's done for young people. Then there is

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Speaker 1: the other argument that young girls are seeing pictures of

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Speaker 1: Sarah and Talie online looking the way that they do

606
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Speaker 1: and thinking that is natural, so then looking at themselves

607
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: and feeling terrible when it is actually fake. But maybe

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Speaker 1: they don't want to talk about it because it's an

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00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: insecurity of theirs as well. It's just not a black

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Speaker 1: and white situation. I mean, I am definitely can see

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Speaker 1: two sides to the matter. I think is extremely hypocritical,

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00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: but then again, I do agree that it's good to

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Speaker 1: keep that stuff offline for impressionable teenagers. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: that's all we've got time for today. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us, and Sophie, You've got a special

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Speaker 1: shout out to make yes a very happy first birthday

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Speaker 1: to the love of my life, Archie, who is turning

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Speaker 1: today the birthday party. There's balloons, a dog cake. I

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Speaker 1: think you should put it all on Instagram. I'll be

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Speaker 1: sharing it on Instagram. Do you think she wouldn't be well,

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Speaker 1: I suppose it is basically for Instagram the party. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: I just want him to have a nice day and

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Speaker 1: a special day because he's literally my whole world at

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Speaker 1: the moment. He's my child, moment he's my son. You

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Speaker 1: have a boyfriend as well, yes, I do, but I

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Speaker 1: just love Archie so much and he's brought me so

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Speaker 1: much joy this year. I feel it's only fitting to

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Speaker 1: hold him at lovely birthday parties. Well, happy birthday to Archie,

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Speaker 1: and we would love to see where you're listening from

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Speaker 1: today if you can tag us in an Instagram post

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Speaker 1: show how you're wrapping up Friday. Can people also let

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Speaker 1: of being kind of embarrassed about doing so, but then

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Speaker 1: also loving it at the same time, it's quite shameful.

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Speaker 1: I must say. Dale was very surprised that you were

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Speaker 1: having a first birthday, far Archie. But I said, what

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