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Speaker 1: Jump Mission with Jones and Amanda.

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Speaker 2: Can you believe it's been over twenty years since we

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Speaker 2: watched the then seventeen year old in Thorpe win three

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Speaker 2: gold medals at the two thousand Olympics. He went on

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Speaker 2: to become, of course, Australia's most successful Olympian, and now

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Speaker 2: in a new docu series, a four particled Head Above Water,

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Speaker 2: we're hearing just what it took to get him and

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Speaker 2: another couple of swimmers, batch of them to the top.

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Speaker 2: Ian Thorpe. Hello, hello, hello very well. So this series

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Speaker 2: follows you, It follows Brontie Campbell, Kyle Charmers and Cody

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Speaker 2: Simpson looking at what it takes to get to the

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Speaker 2: top and what it cost you to get there. It

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Speaker 2: sounds quite extraordinary.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess you know, in the entire series it

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Speaker 3: kind of gets around that notion or that cliche of

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Speaker 3: you know, just swimming up and down a black line.

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Speaker 3: That there's a difference between each of those athletes. For example,

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Speaker 3: you know, Kyle's defending Olympic champion and with that comes

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Speaker 3: a different lets pressure. Bronzie is looking at this being

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Speaker 3: her last Olympic Games, and you know it's had some

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Speaker 3: injury problems, and Cody is someone who was a talented

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Speaker 3: young swimmer who hasn't swum for I think eleven years.

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Speaker 3: It felt as though it was part of his life

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Speaker 3: that he missed out on and wants to go to

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Speaker 3: an Olympic Games. And then myself having been through all

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Speaker 3: of this kind of reflecting on what it does take

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Speaker 3: to be able to have those kind of successes.

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Speaker 1: Because when you first started swimming, your mom and dad said, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's really good at swimming. Was it that simple or

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Speaker 1: did you because at the first bit you didn't really

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Speaker 1: like it that much, did you?

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Speaker 3: Well? No, I liked that my parents didn't think I

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Speaker 3: was good. I was allergics chlorine. I think I've told

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Speaker 3: you guys that perform And when I had the allergy test,

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Speaker 3: they asked my mom, if you think he's going to

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Speaker 3: be a world champ conswimmer, you should have the adenoids

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Speaker 3: and his nose removed. And I of course still have

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Speaker 3: my adenoids, and it's like, yeah, thanks mum, thanks for

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Speaker 3: supporting me.

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Speaker 2: As a young confidence in me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I wasn't when I first first started. I

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Speaker 3: used to assim with my head out of the water.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't a natural, and then you know, I started

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Speaker 3: to do it enjoy the way that I felt in

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Speaker 3: the pool, and from there I started exploring how the

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Speaker 3: water moves off my body and things like that, and

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Speaker 3: that's when I started to become a good swimmer.

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Speaker 1: As extraordinary door it's Katie's Simpson do butterfly. I'm always

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Speaker 1: I'm always impressed when I see someone do butterfly because

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Speaker 1: I think, if you're stuck out in the ocean and

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Speaker 1: yet to get into sure, there's no way you're doing butterfly?

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Speaker 1: Are you?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely not? So there's some advice for people out there

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Speaker 3: if you actually get stuck in the ocean. The most

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Speaker 3: efficient stroke to do is none that we actually swim anymore.

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Speaker 3: It's sidestroke. It's the one that uses the lexed amount

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Speaker 3: of energy. And it was also i think founded in

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Speaker 3: Sydney Harbor where and a First Nations person was witnessed

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Speaker 3: swimming across the harbor in that style and that's where

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Speaker 3: the Australian crawl ended up coming from, which became freestyle.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Fascinating and also this I imagine gives a greater

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Speaker 2: insight and sympathy to a whole of swimmers whose names

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Speaker 2: we don't know who just miss out on the Olympics

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Speaker 2: or get into the Olympics but just miss out on

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Speaker 2: a final. The names that we go, oh, Australia didn't

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Speaker 2: do so well, and yet every one of them has

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Speaker 2: done the hard.

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Speaker 3: Yards they have. You know what, there's there's everyone. There's

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Speaker 3: swimmers that are talented, there's swim as the train hub.

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Speaker 3: There's some that do both. And usually you have to

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Speaker 3: have both to be able to get there. And it's

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Speaker 3: it's a commitment that you make that becomes a lifestyle

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Speaker 3: that you know. It really takes a tremendous amount of

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Speaker 3: dedication and also perseverance really to to be able to

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Speaker 3: make that level. Well.

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Speaker 1: If anyone knows, you certainly know Thorpe. When was the

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Speaker 1: last time you went for a swim?

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Speaker 3: I swim. The last time I went for a swim

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Speaker 3: was in the harbor and yes, off the back of

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Speaker 3: a Yeah, I jumped in off the back of a boat.

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Speaker 2: I think side stroke.

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Speaker 3: Side stroke. I didn't have to swim very far.

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Speaker 1: Did you have a beer in your hands?

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Speaker 3: It wasn't. I didn't say. I didn't fall off the boat.

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Speaker 1: Thorpia, it's always great to talk to you. This is

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Speaker 1: a great documentary, Head Above Water. It's available now on

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Speaker 1: Amazon Prime. Ian Thorpe, thank

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Speaker 3: You, thank you, Thanks Great Jonesy and Amanda's