1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Jonesy and Demanda podcast. Well, yesterday 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: on our show, Emma Gillespie, who is the editor of 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: The Daily Os, who's our pop culture entertainment guru, she 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: spoke about the rift between Brooklyn Beckham and his parents 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: and this is a thing that a lot of adults 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: are now doing. This is something that Oprah Winfrey has 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: been talking about, Mel Robbins, all those self help kind 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: of gurus and TikTok is big on. This is people 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: grown ups going no contact with their parents, breaking up, 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: divorcing their parents. Parents are off and left saying what 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: have I done? And these grown children are saying, you 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: know very well. We've spoken about this for twenty years, 13 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: so it's fascinating to see this playing out with the Beckhams, who, 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: as we said yesterday, have curated their family narrative very carefully. Well. 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: We spoke about bits and pieces as to where the 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: feud began. One of the things was that on the 17 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: leading up to his wedding, his bride, Nicola Peltz, didn't 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: choose Victoria Beckham to make her wedding dress. Was one 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: of the stories. Another Victoria she's good on the fat, 20 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: She's great on the husk of van are you just 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: asked her? She'll whip you up something with a pattern 22 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: like that. She don't imagine that she's at home spotlight. 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: She's going through with the material? Is the butterick pattern? 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: Isn't that a cardboard thing with all the checkers? And 25 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: I remember showing mun pictures in magazines that I want 26 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: to look like this, and she said, oh, get a 27 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: pattern for that. And you know you're going to look 28 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: like an eight year old. So when your mum says 29 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: we have McDonald's at home, yes, but there are a 30 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: couple of stories also that. Well, let's see what Brooklyn 31 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: Beckham has said, because overnight he has released on his 32 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: socials a damning statement where he has come out saying 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: that his family are not as they seem. And this 34 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: is a man who's fighting to not be labeled as 35 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: you call him yesterday, Brennan, a no talent, NEPO babytive. 36 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: The narrative is that he has a very powerful partner's 37 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: from a very rich family. Yes she is, she's an heiress, 38 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: that he is being led along and he's lost his 39 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: manliness and he's been taken over by her and her 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: family and he's saying, this is not the troth the 41 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: kids swung from the money tree to another money tree. 42 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: Let me read to you what he has said. I've 43 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: been silent for years and made every effort to keep 44 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: these matters private. Unfortunately, my parents and their team have 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: continued to go to the press, leaving me with no 46 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: choice but to speak for myself and tell the truth 47 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: about only some of the lies that have been printed. 48 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: I do not want to reconcile with my family. I'm 49 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 1: not being controlled. I'm standing up for myself for the 50 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: first time in my life. For my entire life, my 51 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: parents have controlled narratives in the press about our family. 52 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: The performative social media posts, family events, and inauthentic relationships 53 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: have been a fixture of the life I was born into. Recently, 54 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: I've seen with my own eyes the lengths they will 55 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: go through to place countless lies in the media, mostly 56 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: expensive innocent people, to preserve their own facade. But I 57 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: believe the truth always comes out. My parents have been 58 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: trying endlessly to rule in my relationship since before my wedding, 59 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: and it hasn't stopped. My mum canceled making Nichola's dress 60 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: in the eleventh hour, despite how excited she was to 61 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: wear her design, forcing her to urgently find a new 62 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: dress weeks before our big day. But the narrative was 63 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: that she Nicholas said she didn't want to wear the podstress. 64 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: The story goes on. There's bits here that it's extraordinary reading. 65 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: The night before our wedding, members of my family told 66 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: me that Nichola was quote, not blood and not family. 67 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: Since the moment I started standing up for myself with 68 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: my family, I've received endless attacks from my parents, both 69 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: privately and publicly. That was sent to the press on 70 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: their orders. Even my brothers were sent to attack me 71 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: on social media before they ultimately blocked me out of 72 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: nowhere the last summer. Listen to this bit. This is 73 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: the bit we'd heard that the mum took the first 74 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: dance at the wedding. He said, my mum hijacked my 75 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: first dance with my wife, which had been planned weeks 76 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: in advance, to a romantic love song in front of 77 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: our five hundred wedding guests. Mark Anthony called me to 78 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: the stage where in the schedule was planned to be 79 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: my romantic dance with my wife. Instead, my mom was 80 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: waiting to dance with me. She danced very inappropriately on 81 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 1: me in front of everyone. I've never felt more uncomfortable 82 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: or humiliated in my entire life. No, there's no video 83 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: that we know of. We waited. We wanted to renew 84 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: our vows so we could recreate memories of our wedding 85 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: day that bring us joy and happiness, not anxiety and embarrassment. 86 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: It just keeps going. My wife has been consistently disrespected 87 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: by my family. My mum has repeatedly invited women from 88 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: my past into our lives in ways that were clearly 89 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: intended to make us both uncomfortable. Goes on and on, 90 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: but this is how it kind of wraps up here. 91 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: Mom My family values public. My family values public promotion 92 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: and endorsements above all else. Brand Beckham comes first family quote. 93 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: Love is decided by how much you post on social 94 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: media or how quickly you drop everything to show up 95 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: and pose for a family photo op, even if it's 96 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: at the expense of your professional obligations. We've gone out 97 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: of our way for years to show up and support it. 98 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: Every fashion show, every party, every press activity to show 99 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: our perfect family wow. Wow. The narrative that my wife 100 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: controls me is backwards. I've been controlled by my parents 101 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: for most of my life. I grew up with overwhelming anxiety. 102 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: For the first time in my life, since stepping away 103 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: from my family, that anxiety has disappeared. My wife and 104 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: I do not want a life shape by image press 105 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: or manipulation. It's extraordinary. It sounds like Prince Harry. But 106 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: with Prince Harry you can't who stood up for his 107 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: wife saying you're painting the wrong picture here. But with 108 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: Harry you appreciate. There's a strong family narrative. But it's 109 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: not about that. Listen to it. This is just a 110 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: guy trying to make good. It's not about how much 111 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: money from your bank account. Really, I really feel for 112 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: him because this is a family who appearances everything royal family, 113 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: you get. They have a structure that the whole world understands. Yeah, 114 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: but the Bectams are like the Royal Well, this is 115 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: we didn't he's saying it's fake. He's saying it's curated 116 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,559 Speaker 1: and it's harsh and it's not so well your team 117 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: what's the old MAT's name, Brooklyn or team? I like 118 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: the Beckhams. But this is fascinating, is this will break 119 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: out the fast fascinating it is were you know, this 120 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: is something we could put to the pub test for 121 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: the first time in twenty twenty six. We'll do that 122 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,559 Speaker 1: a little bit later on, maybe we will