1 00:00:11,530 --> 00:00:12,460 UU: My friends, I. 2 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,470 S1: Hello and welcome to the West Tigers podcast is episode 3 00:00:23,470 --> 00:00:27,880 S1: number 238. We've got the usual midweek panel of Eddie, 4 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,559 S1: Gary and Declan after a disappointing first up showing by 5 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,900 S1: the West Tigers, 22 points to ten. Gary, your initial 6 00:00:37,900 --> 00:00:41,529 S1: impression after Sunday, I know I've been my usual negative 7 00:00:41,530 --> 00:00:43,570 S1: self for a couple of days, but I did for 8 00:00:43,570 --> 00:00:46,780 S1: the first time get to review the game the full 9 00:00:46,780 --> 00:00:49,089 S1: game last night because I had a very busy Sunday 10 00:00:49,090 --> 00:00:52,420 S1: with cricket grand finals and celebrations and all that and 11 00:00:52,420 --> 00:00:54,190 S1: it was a little bit more positive than what was 12 00:00:54,190 --> 00:00:55,330 S1: maybe Monday, Tuesday. 13 00:00:55,930 --> 00:00:58,890 S2: I think that's the general trait, though. I think I 14 00:00:58,900 --> 00:01:01,420 S2: was the same. I was quite disappointed. On Sunday night 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,480 S2: we recorded a podcast straight after the game and I 16 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,800 S2: think I came across fairly negative in that. And as 17 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,410 S2: the week's going on, I'm starting to see a few 18 00:01:11,410 --> 00:01:14,709 S2: more of the positives and probably not as down on 19 00:01:14,709 --> 00:01:17,140 S2: the performance on the weekend as I was on Sunday. 20 00:01:18,370 --> 00:01:22,210 S1: Like Declan, one thing we're going to get, win or lose, 21 00:01:22,209 --> 00:01:26,350 S1: hopefully win this week is perhaps, you know, a distinctive 22 00:01:26,350 --> 00:01:29,350 S1: style and brand. And I could see that at least 23 00:01:29,350 --> 00:01:31,090 S1: on Sunday. It's not like they were going out there 24 00:01:31,090 --> 00:01:34,060 S1: with no plan, even though there were, you know, 14 errors, 25 00:01:34,060 --> 00:01:37,029 S1: which ultimately will lead to your demise. Yeah, I think. 26 00:01:37,030 --> 00:01:39,640 S3: That's probably going to be the balance of this team 27 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,430 S3: needs to strike this year. That balance between going forward 28 00:01:42,430 --> 00:01:46,899 S3: and spreading the ball and identifying like what time is appropriate. 29 00:01:46,900 --> 00:01:50,080 S3: But as you said, it was just impossible to to 30 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,000 S3: win the game with that many errors against a Gold 31 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,300 S3: Coast team. That's probably on the same level in terms 32 00:01:55,300 --> 00:01:57,490 S3: of talent. But I tend to agree with you guys 33 00:01:57,550 --> 00:02:00,370 S3: think that, you know, if we held like even a 34 00:02:00,370 --> 00:02:02,170 S3: little bit more ball, I think we would have won 35 00:02:02,170 --> 00:02:04,120 S3: that game probably tonight. 36 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,010 S1: Boys, We're going to get into a few of the 37 00:02:06,010 --> 00:02:09,250 S1: main talking points out of Sunday without reviewing the game 38 00:02:09,250 --> 00:02:11,859 S1: entirely because I know you did one on Sunday night. 39 00:02:12,310 --> 00:02:14,950 S1: We're going to talk about Gary's interview with Justin Pascoe, 40 00:02:14,950 --> 00:02:17,860 S1: which was alive at the ambush event just before the 41 00:02:17,860 --> 00:02:21,850 S1: game on Sunday, which was some interesting talking points, very candid. 42 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,940 S1: Justin Pascoe and Gary pressing him a couple of times. 43 00:02:24,940 --> 00:02:28,000 S1: Gary thought, you know, it wasn't just the usual fan 44 00:02:28,010 --> 00:02:30,370 S1: sort of fluff piece. I thought you did a good job, 45 00:02:30,370 --> 00:02:32,620 S1: dare I say it, just just pressing him on a 46 00:02:32,620 --> 00:02:34,780 S1: couple of little things that might have got a bit 47 00:02:34,780 --> 00:02:36,670 S1: more information and thought we might. 48 00:02:36,820 --> 00:02:39,700 S2: Yeah, it was quite open. We have spent a little 49 00:02:39,700 --> 00:02:41,200 S2: bit of time trying to build up a bit of 50 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,390 S2: a relationship with him and I think I think that 51 00:02:43,389 --> 00:02:45,220 S2: came through in the discussion that we had with him 52 00:02:45,220 --> 00:02:47,500 S2: on Sunday. I thought he was a little bit more 53 00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:50,109 S2: open than he usually is in most interviews I've heard 54 00:02:50,110 --> 00:02:52,690 S2: and even some some information in there about our home 55 00:02:52,690 --> 00:02:56,260 S2: grounds moving forward. And and some interesting information came out 56 00:02:56,260 --> 00:02:56,770 S2: from you. 57 00:02:56,770 --> 00:02:59,170 S1: And we'll, of course, be previewing the nights back at 58 00:02:59,169 --> 00:03:01,630 S1: Lockhart straight away. I don't know if that's a good 59 00:03:01,630 --> 00:03:03,820 S1: thing or a bad thing in round two. And Gary, 60 00:03:03,820 --> 00:03:06,220 S1: we're going to finish with your this quiz, which I 61 00:03:06,220 --> 00:03:08,920 S1: haven't even opened yet. So that is a worry for 62 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,590 S1: me because he sent it to me at 630 tonight. 63 00:03:12,340 --> 00:03:14,680 S1: He said there's a theme there, so I'm going to 64 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,210 S1: have to be on my toes reading it out. 65 00:03:16,210 --> 00:03:18,730 S3: Declan Yeah, and he told me at the ambush event 66 00:03:18,730 --> 00:03:22,359 S3: to tell you not to change his quiz this time. Well. 67 00:03:22,870 --> 00:03:24,940 S1: Tell Jody he's more than welcome to apply to be 68 00:03:24,940 --> 00:03:27,010 S1: the host, but I can do whatever I like. Is 69 00:03:27,020 --> 00:03:32,140 S1: that so? Questions there are. They were hard to answer, 70 00:03:32,139 --> 00:03:34,660 S1: but they're all so hard to spit out sometimes the 71 00:03:34,660 --> 00:03:36,250 S1: way he just spins them a little bit. He's got 72 00:03:36,250 --> 00:03:40,810 S1: his own little spin on things, which is interesting. Um, anyway, boys, 73 00:03:40,810 --> 00:03:43,390 S1: let's get into it. The main talking point, I think, 74 00:03:43,810 --> 00:03:47,080 S1: at least in the media from the wash up from Sunday, 75 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:52,450 S1: was leaving AP on the bench, some very critical. So 76 00:03:52,450 --> 00:03:55,540 S1: Cameron Smith you know a obviously probably the best number 77 00:03:55,540 --> 00:03:59,770 S1: nine in the game seemed very critical. Cooper Cronk wasn't 78 00:03:59,770 --> 00:04:02,470 S1: too critical because he said, you know, it's a formula 79 00:04:02,470 --> 00:04:04,480 S1: that's worked, at least at a different club in the 80 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,700 S1: past for me. Declan Um, I just don't like the tone. 81 00:04:09,700 --> 00:04:12,760 S1: It's set, you know, We made him captain your first 82 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,040 S1: game at Lockhart, and he comes on and. And the 83 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,630 S1: crowd sort of was out of the game at 12 84 00:04:16,630 --> 00:04:17,890 S1: two after 25 minutes. 85 00:04:18,010 --> 00:04:20,590 S3: Yeah, I think they're all really good points, but I 86 00:04:20,589 --> 00:04:23,650 S3: don't think that was a football decision. In terms of tactics, 87 00:04:23,650 --> 00:04:26,109 S3: I don't think ten was ever planning on saying, well, 88 00:04:26,110 --> 00:04:29,109 S3: Jake Sampson will start the game, absorb all the pressure 89 00:04:29,110 --> 00:04:31,270 S3: and he'll come in and, you know, score three tries 90 00:04:31,270 --> 00:04:33,820 S3: a through crisis. I don't think that that was the 91 00:04:33,820 --> 00:04:36,279 S3: the point. I think it was just purely a conditioning 92 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,330 S3: thing because he hasn't played in the trials or and 93 00:04:40,330 --> 00:04:43,330 S3: he also seems to have had pretty not a serious 94 00:04:43,330 --> 00:04:45,820 S3: calf injury, but definitely one still plaguing him a little bit. 95 00:04:45,820 --> 00:04:48,400 S3: So I think temporary is probably dead it purely for 96 00:04:48,430 --> 00:04:50,860 S3: that reason and not for any tactical advantage that he 97 00:04:50,860 --> 00:04:53,770 S3: thought he might have gone from moving up to the bench. 98 00:04:53,770 --> 00:04:55,989 S3: But I do kind of agree with Cam Smith. You know, 99 00:04:55,990 --> 00:04:58,440 S3: if he's not healthy enough to start and should have 100 00:04:58,450 --> 00:05:00,789 S3: even been played in the right place, feel like. That's 101 00:05:00,910 --> 00:05:03,280 S3: an interesting question. It has a little bit of food 102 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:03,789 S3: for thought. 103 00:05:03,970 --> 00:05:06,040 S2: I have heard a little bit of information around that. 104 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,470 S2: That calf issue is still troubling him a little bit. 105 00:05:08,470 --> 00:05:11,170 S2: And that may have been the reason behind it. And 106 00:05:11,170 --> 00:05:13,000 S2: if you also have a look, the other player who 107 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,970 S2: played on the weekend who didn't play any trial games 108 00:05:15,970 --> 00:05:18,370 S2: was off and he started from the bench. As well. 109 00:05:18,380 --> 00:05:20,600 S2: So maybe it was just a way of easing them 110 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,260 S2: into the game. I think my opinion is if you've 111 00:05:24,260 --> 00:05:27,710 S2: got AP and you can't play the full game, I 112 00:05:27,710 --> 00:05:30,260 S2: think you're better to play him at the start. Give 113 00:05:30,260 --> 00:05:32,690 S2: him a break just before half time and just after 114 00:05:32,690 --> 00:05:34,580 S2: half time and then have him on at the end 115 00:05:34,580 --> 00:05:36,620 S2: of the game as well, because I think they're the 116 00:05:36,620 --> 00:05:38,239 S2: crucial times. You need him at the start of the 117 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,280 S2: game and at the end of the game. So I'd 118 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,279 S2: like to see them kind of swap around a little bit. 119 00:05:42,290 --> 00:05:45,890 S1: Yeah, I mean, take your points, Declan, about the calf injury. 120 00:05:45,890 --> 00:05:47,810 S1: I'm sure that was real because he didn't play in 121 00:05:47,810 --> 00:05:50,960 S1: that last trial. But yeah, like you guys said, I 122 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,359 S1: just think we've had a couple of what turned out 123 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,180 S1: to be lame duck captains, you know, and by and 124 00:05:56,180 --> 00:05:58,969 S1: Tamu who are both big name signings to the club 125 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,430 S1: and it's just I just think it sets the wrong 126 00:06:01,430 --> 00:06:03,980 S1: tone when you've got your captain, you know, leading you 127 00:06:03,980 --> 00:06:05,850 S1: out in front of your home crowd and then he's 128 00:06:05,870 --> 00:06:07,430 S1: not leading you out. He's sitting on the bench and 129 00:06:07,430 --> 00:06:09,710 S1: by the time he comes on the Gold Coast have 130 00:06:09,710 --> 00:06:12,560 S1: scored twice. And I just think it's I'm not sure 131 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,600 S1: they're trying to you know, they were going down that 132 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,990 S1: path of trying to replicate Penrith. I think it's probably 133 00:06:17,990 --> 00:06:21,690 S1: more to do with nursing through but. But like. Like 134 00:06:21,750 --> 00:06:24,690 S1: think Gary said, if he's good enough to play 50 minutes, 135 00:06:24,690 --> 00:06:27,390 S1: I want 30 of those minutes to be the first 136 00:06:27,390 --> 00:06:28,500 S1: 30 minutes of the game. 137 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,510 S3: Well, it seems that tensions just from how he's approached 138 00:06:33,510 --> 00:06:36,719 S3: the preseason and even the regular season, it seems like 139 00:06:37,140 --> 00:06:39,420 S3: he's got a very long term view and he's not 140 00:06:39,420 --> 00:06:42,870 S3: afraid to make decisions in the short term that are 141 00:06:42,870 --> 00:06:45,659 S3: a little bit detrimental, which he obviously thinks will be 142 00:06:45,660 --> 00:06:48,420 S3: better in the long term. So, for example, obviously we 143 00:06:48,420 --> 00:06:50,880 S3: all do want to see John Bateman playing that week 144 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,780 S3: against the against the Knights, especially against Jackson Hastings. I'm 145 00:06:54,779 --> 00:06:57,390 S3: quite disappointed that we won't get to see that live 146 00:06:57,390 --> 00:06:59,490 S3: because I was very interested to see how that would go, 147 00:06:59,490 --> 00:07:02,690 S3: but not to be. And he's clearly identified that, look, 148 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,620 S3: that guy isn't ready to play long term. It's gonna 149 00:07:04,630 --> 00:07:06,600 S3: be much better, even though it may hurt us in 150 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,160 S3: the short term. And I just think it's the same 151 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,800 S3: with AP. I think that, you know, short term, yes, 152 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,470 S3: we did struggle. Yes, he should have started. But if 153 00:07:13,470 --> 00:07:16,080 S3: he like if he can just rest them or ease 154 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:17,970 S3: them in to get a full season out of them, 155 00:07:17,970 --> 00:07:19,770 S3: I think that's going to be much better long term 156 00:07:19,770 --> 00:07:20,890 S3: for this season. 157 00:07:20,910 --> 00:07:23,100 S1: I mean, that's that's all well and good, Declan. But 158 00:07:23,100 --> 00:07:25,620 S1: if if they if they're going to start own three 159 00:07:25,620 --> 00:07:27,179 S1: or own four and I think fans are going to 160 00:07:27,180 --> 00:07:27,870 S1: cop that. 161 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,020 S3: Well that's the thing though. Like we always talk about 162 00:07:31,020 --> 00:07:33,720 S3: like a quick start to the season and that's really important. Yes, 163 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,120 S3: but not so much. A quick start is where you 164 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,490 S3: finish at the end of the season. So we could 165 00:07:38,490 --> 00:07:40,950 S3: go in three. But then, you know, if we can't 166 00:07:40,950 --> 00:07:44,220 S3: if we can't fire, if we catch fire, sorry, and 167 00:07:44,220 --> 00:07:45,900 S3: then go on about a streak towards the middle of 168 00:07:45,900 --> 00:07:47,760 S3: the season or at the end of the season, then, 169 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,530 S3: you know, like at the end of the day, you 170 00:07:49,530 --> 00:07:51,780 S3: kind of have to judge it by its merits at 171 00:07:51,780 --> 00:07:53,040 S3: the end of the season, don't you? 172 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,740 S2: The thing is, I kind of agree with Eddie. I 173 00:07:55,740 --> 00:08:00,180 S2: think I've never seen a crowd on the weekend react 174 00:08:00,180 --> 00:08:04,440 S2: the way it did, especially at Lockhart Oval. For that 175 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,660 S2: first 20 minutes where we had a lot of ball 176 00:08:06,660 --> 00:08:09,960 S2: down there under the field. It was a normal, typical 177 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,380 S2: Lockhart crowd. And then as soon as the Gold Coast 178 00:08:13,380 --> 00:08:17,310 S2: got that first try, it was dead silent. I've never 179 00:08:17,310 --> 00:08:19,620 S2: seen it kind of react that way. And and at 180 00:08:19,620 --> 00:08:22,650 S2: the end of the game, there's quite a bit of 181 00:08:22,650 --> 00:08:25,410 S2: anger in that crowd as well. And I think I 182 00:08:25,410 --> 00:08:28,020 S2: think it's really important for this side to get off 183 00:08:28,020 --> 00:08:30,390 S2: to a good start because I think the pressure from 184 00:08:30,390 --> 00:08:33,140 S2: the fan base is going to come fairly early this year. 185 00:08:33,150 --> 00:08:35,880 S2: If we are struggling and I don't know that it's 186 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,760 S2: a good enough squad or or we're far enough into 187 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,550 S2: our rebuild that this squad can kind of come back 188 00:08:41,550 --> 00:08:43,950 S2: from from what this fan base could throw at them 189 00:08:43,950 --> 00:08:45,120 S2: in a couple of weeks time. 190 00:08:45,300 --> 00:08:49,350 S3: Yeah, but everyone like to counter that. Everyone is extremely 191 00:08:49,350 --> 00:08:51,960 S3: excited for round one. As soon as the draw comes out, 192 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,710 S3: it start building, especially like our game and this entire offseason, 193 00:08:55,710 --> 00:08:59,370 S3: everyone's been talking about just how much better the Tigers are, 194 00:08:59,370 --> 00:09:01,470 S3: how much better their recruitment has been, and that hope 195 00:09:01,470 --> 00:09:03,840 S3: gets to everyone. I dare say it's even going to 196 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,059 S3: us as well. I think we got a lot more 197 00:09:06,059 --> 00:09:08,850 S3: excited during the course of the off season for the 198 00:09:08,850 --> 00:09:11,250 S3: team and obviously for them to come out and lose 199 00:09:11,250 --> 00:09:14,400 S3: to a team that we thought we could realistically beat, 200 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,069 S3: we probably should have. That's disappointing. And I think what 201 00:09:17,070 --> 00:09:19,170 S3: I saw through social media was a little bit of 202 00:09:19,170 --> 00:09:21,750 S3: a back to reality in the sense that, you know, yes, 203 00:09:21,750 --> 00:09:23,280 S3: it was better, but, you know, we still have a 204 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,339 S3: long ways to go. So I think that's probably a 205 00:09:26,340 --> 00:09:29,040 S3: big reason why the fans were really disappointed because obviously 206 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:30,570 S3: everyone wants to win round one. 207 00:09:30,780 --> 00:09:32,970 S2: And and what's that going to look like if we 208 00:09:32,970 --> 00:09:35,640 S2: follow that up with two losses against the Knights and 209 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:37,980 S2: the Bulldogs in the next couple of weeks? And that's 210 00:09:37,980 --> 00:09:40,559 S2: why that's where I think Eddie's point kind of comes in, 211 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,710 S2: is yes, we can like we can judge it into 212 00:09:43,710 --> 00:09:46,110 S2: the season, but I don't know that this fan base 213 00:09:46,110 --> 00:09:47,790 S2: is going to wait till the end of the season. 214 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,210 S3: Well, that's ridiculous though. Like they have to like Temptu 215 00:09:51,300 --> 00:09:53,400 S3: is here as an experienced coach because, you know, he 216 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,860 S3: doesn't care about what in three games against, you know, 217 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,100 S3: like eight teams cares about getting into the finals and yeah, 218 00:09:59,100 --> 00:10:00,660 S3: obviously it's going to be a tough task. But you 219 00:10:00,660 --> 00:10:03,540 S3: can't just say, Oh, if we don't beat these teams 220 00:10:03,780 --> 00:10:07,170 S3: in the first few rounds, then the season is completely gone. 221 00:10:07,620 --> 00:10:10,319 S3: That's just like kind of negative to me. Like the 222 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,320 S3: Roosters lost, for God's sake. And they never usually care 223 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,650 S3: about that. Like the first few rounds. Obviously they're like 224 00:10:17,190 --> 00:10:20,099 S3: title contenders and understand that, but think there's something to 225 00:10:20,100 --> 00:10:22,439 S3: be said about, okay, this is a new sport. It's 226 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,440 S3: going to take time to assemble, so let's give them 227 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,960 S3: that time, especially in the halves, because Luke Brooks as well, 228 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,890 S3: like we talked about, Jofra and also AP, But that 229 00:10:31,890 --> 00:10:33,690 S3: was Brooke's first game as well, and he's playing a 230 00:10:33,690 --> 00:10:37,050 S3: key halfback position. So can they do a little at 231 00:10:37,059 --> 00:10:39,360 S3: times mesh before we get to critical on them? 232 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,780 S1: Are you okay tonight, Declan? You're defending Luke Brooks in 233 00:10:42,780 --> 00:10:44,790 S1: one of the first shows of the year. You sure? Everything. 234 00:10:44,850 --> 00:10:45,660 S1: Everything's sweet. 235 00:10:46,260 --> 00:10:48,900 S4: No, I'm just. I'm just feeling a little bit argumentative tonight. 236 00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:51,840 S3: I just thought would make it interesting. But I do 237 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,590 S3: genuinely think that, you know, I'm not I do genuinely 238 00:10:55,590 --> 00:10:57,330 S3: think that it's important not to just write off the 239 00:10:57,330 --> 00:10:58,800 S3: team after one bad performance. 240 00:10:59,090 --> 00:11:01,560 S1: Anyone's riding off the team. I just think we're saying 241 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,069 S1: like off the back of a long last, if you 242 00:11:05,070 --> 00:11:08,040 S1: start on three, which we haven't only lost one, but 243 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,800 S1: if you start on three and resting base and Bateman 244 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,580 S1: and castles coming off the bench against three bottom eight 245 00:11:13,590 --> 00:11:17,280 S1: sides that's going to start that negative cycle that comes 246 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,050 S1: through in the media. And that for me only adds 247 00:11:19,050 --> 00:11:21,960 S1: pressure to the squad and the coach. So I think 248 00:11:22,050 --> 00:11:25,140 S1: a fast start for us is far more important than 249 00:11:25,140 --> 00:11:26,610 S1: it is for a team like the Roosters. 250 00:11:28,170 --> 00:11:30,180 S4: No, I do understand your point of view, but. 251 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,209 S3: You know, I think Adam Dooley said in the press conferences, 252 00:11:33,210 --> 00:11:35,219 S3: like a lot of people don't know the full story 253 00:11:35,220 --> 00:11:39,329 S3: with this injuries in terms of player selection. So I'm 254 00:11:39,330 --> 00:11:41,370 S3: willing to give him the benefit of doubt for this one. 255 00:11:41,820 --> 00:11:45,870 S1: Okay, Fair enough. Uh, boys, Declan touched on the spine. Gary, 256 00:11:45,870 --> 00:11:48,300 S1: I sort of. I was watching the game on my 257 00:11:48,300 --> 00:11:51,270 S1: phone in the back of an Uber or something on Sunday, 258 00:11:51,270 --> 00:11:52,830 S1: and every time I seem to turn it on, it 259 00:11:52,830 --> 00:11:55,770 S1: was we were inside the 20 and we'd made an 260 00:11:55,770 --> 00:11:57,929 S1: error and it just looked a little bit frantic. But 261 00:11:57,929 --> 00:12:01,199 S1: then there were also, you know, good moments where Adam 262 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,990 S1: Dewey was dominating that second half. He obviously laid on 263 00:12:03,990 --> 00:12:06,920 S1: or scored one try and laid on the other. Um, 264 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,170 S1: did you see rust in that pairing or, or hope 265 00:12:10,170 --> 00:12:11,970 S1: or what? What was the main takeaway for you out 266 00:12:11,970 --> 00:12:13,620 S1: of that halves combination Sunday. 267 00:12:14,309 --> 00:12:16,559 S2: I think Adam Dewey had a really good 20 minutes 268 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,410 S2: in the second half. Um, thought he was striking the 269 00:12:19,410 --> 00:12:21,720 S2: attack really well during that time. He was creating space 270 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,480 S2: for his outside men. The try he laid on for 271 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,059 S2: Dane Lowrie was was a really nice one. He scored 272 00:12:27,059 --> 00:12:29,189 S2: one himself. I think he was really strong in that 273 00:12:29,190 --> 00:12:32,370 S2: 20 minutes. I thought the rest of his game was 274 00:12:32,370 --> 00:12:35,489 S2: a little bit of hit and miss. Um, and I 275 00:12:35,490 --> 00:12:38,400 S2: thought Luke Brooks needs to do a lot better for us. 276 00:12:38,610 --> 00:12:41,310 S2: I thought a lot of the times, especially when we 277 00:12:41,309 --> 00:12:45,630 S2: were in their 20, Luke Brooks and Adam Dooley, at 278 00:12:45,630 --> 00:12:49,229 S2: times we're going too much, too far. Cross Field. Luke 279 00:12:49,230 --> 00:12:52,320 S2: Brooks A number of times Randy's outside, man out of space. 280 00:12:52,650 --> 00:12:54,660 S2: By just running that angle that he kind of runs 281 00:12:54,660 --> 00:12:57,150 S2: towards the corner post, he needs to straighten that a 282 00:12:57,150 --> 00:13:00,600 S2: little bit better to maintain the space outside him. I 283 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,330 S2: think if he does that and we straighten the attack 284 00:13:03,330 --> 00:13:04,780 S2: a little. Bit more. We'll look a lot better in 285 00:13:04,780 --> 00:13:07,120 S2: those attacking zones. And I think I think that first 286 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:08,980 S2: 20 minutes, that was the biggest problem as well. We 287 00:13:08,980 --> 00:13:11,560 S2: weren't training the attack enough or going too far, too 288 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,410 S2: much side to side. And our only real method for 289 00:13:14,410 --> 00:13:18,310 S2: straightening the attack during during pretty much the entire game 290 00:13:18,309 --> 00:13:20,500 S2: was to dump a ball off to Alex and have 291 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:23,800 S2: him do a head up inside the the 20. I 292 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,020 S2: couldn't couldn't count the amount of times he got tackled 293 00:13:26,020 --> 00:13:27,340 S2: in the 20 try. 294 00:13:27,340 --> 00:13:30,460 S1: And whatever it looks like the team's. No no it's 295 00:13:30,460 --> 00:13:32,710 S1: not the case Gary but you know three times in 296 00:13:32,710 --> 00:13:34,630 S1: the first ten minutes, you know Tua was getting the 297 00:13:34,630 --> 00:13:37,030 S1: ball five metres out and it looked like I just, 298 00:13:37,210 --> 00:13:39,490 S1: just it's surely not a pep play. 299 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,689 S2: Look, I think it was a. I don't like us 300 00:13:43,690 --> 00:13:46,300 S2: doing it. I think it's a wasted tackle. I can 301 00:13:46,300 --> 00:13:48,340 S2: understand they're trying to center the ball and play off 302 00:13:48,340 --> 00:13:50,890 S2: the back of that, but I think we need to 303 00:13:50,890 --> 00:13:53,740 S2: do a little bit better than that in the in 304 00:13:53,740 --> 00:13:55,900 S2: the red zone. So there are a couple of little 305 00:13:55,900 --> 00:13:58,510 S2: things I think. I think if we make small tweaks 306 00:13:58,510 --> 00:14:00,699 S2: to our game, I think the game can be a 307 00:14:00,700 --> 00:14:04,270 S2: lot more effective. I think our forwards need to own 308 00:14:04,270 --> 00:14:06,429 S2: that middle of the field before they start ball playing 309 00:14:06,429 --> 00:14:09,760 S2: as much so that getting those guys over the line, 310 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,040 S2: getting a quick play the ball and then playing off 311 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,620 S2: the back of that and the forwards interchanging passes off 312 00:14:14,620 --> 00:14:16,870 S2: the back of that I think will be a lot more, 313 00:14:17,170 --> 00:14:19,540 S2: a lot stronger and show a better style of game 314 00:14:19,540 --> 00:14:22,120 S2: and allow us to to dominate sides through the middle 315 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,910 S2: a lot more. I think we're just a little bit 316 00:14:24,910 --> 00:14:27,250 S2: still a little bit too pass happy and we need 317 00:14:27,250 --> 00:14:28,690 S2: to kind of get that balance right. 318 00:14:29,620 --> 00:14:34,480 S1: I mean. Declan Yeah. Luke Brooks It was his first 319 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,000 S1: game of the year and there was there was obviously, 320 00:14:37,420 --> 00:14:39,550 S1: I think, a lack of combination there with a couple 321 00:14:39,550 --> 00:14:42,700 S1: of guys. But it's just for me, when he makes 322 00:14:42,700 --> 00:14:44,859 S1: the errors, it just seemed to be key errors. Like 323 00:14:44,860 --> 00:14:47,020 S1: just when you're trying to get back into the game, 324 00:14:47,410 --> 00:14:49,840 S1: there's an error out of nowhere, which is like a 325 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,230 S1: momentum killer. And it just it just worries me when 326 00:14:53,230 --> 00:14:55,540 S1: I hear little quotes. I think I heard one in 327 00:14:55,540 --> 00:14:57,460 S1: the pre-season season where he said, I've just got to 328 00:14:57,460 --> 00:14:59,530 S1: go back to running the ball. And like, I just 329 00:14:59,530 --> 00:15:02,260 S1: think he's got to evolve a little bit more as 330 00:15:02,260 --> 00:15:03,940 S1: a halfback because there are a couple of those runs 331 00:15:03,940 --> 00:15:07,620 S1: on the weekend which just sort of running or running sake. Um, 332 00:15:07,690 --> 00:15:10,750 S1: but did you know, I look at the stats if 333 00:15:10,750 --> 00:15:12,040 S1: I didn't see the game and I just saw the 334 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:16,660 S1: stats line breaks were six two to us, offloads were 335 00:15:16,660 --> 00:15:19,960 S1: 20 to 4 to us run meters. We ran for 336 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,710 S1: over 2000m, which was over 300 more than the Gold Coast. 337 00:15:24,310 --> 00:15:29,260 S1: Forced drop outs were three nil to us. So. On 338 00:15:29,260 --> 00:15:32,620 S1: another day, you know, if the passes stick. Maybe that 339 00:15:32,620 --> 00:15:33,610 S1: could be a big win. 340 00:15:34,900 --> 00:15:38,950 S3: Yeah, definitely. That's why I'm not like overly sad that 341 00:15:38,950 --> 00:15:40,900 S3: their lifestyle, obviously if they go out and lose to 342 00:15:40,900 --> 00:15:43,300 S3: the Knights in the exact same fashion where they they 343 00:15:43,300 --> 00:15:45,970 S3: drop so much ball and they attack you know is 344 00:15:45,970 --> 00:15:48,170 S3: expansive but ineffective. At the end of the day, I 345 00:15:48,170 --> 00:15:50,080 S3: think that's going to be a problem if it becomes 346 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,840 S3: a thing for two weeks in a row. But I 347 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,180 S3: think the thing with Luke Brooks and Adam do was 348 00:15:55,180 --> 00:15:57,790 S3: it looked like there was two 5/8 out there on 349 00:15:57,790 --> 00:15:59,470 S3: either side of the field. It didn't really look like 350 00:15:59,470 --> 00:16:02,890 S3: there was a half back, particularly there. I see it. 351 00:16:02,980 --> 00:16:05,680 S3: Did we miss someone like Jackson Hastings just to kind of, 352 00:16:05,860 --> 00:16:08,230 S3: you know, calm everyone down and get them back and 353 00:16:08,230 --> 00:16:11,820 S3: direction because, you know, don't really think that Brooks or 354 00:16:11,850 --> 00:16:15,190 S3: Adam do that, especially after the Titans scored that first try, 355 00:16:15,190 --> 00:16:17,290 S3: which was kind of a punch to the face for 356 00:16:17,290 --> 00:16:19,390 S3: us because we were so much on top at that point. 357 00:16:19,390 --> 00:16:21,550 S3: So I think that's going to be really interesting. I 358 00:16:21,550 --> 00:16:24,250 S3: think that, you know, Brooks or Adam, do you think 359 00:16:24,250 --> 00:16:25,690 S3: they're both going to have to get better at it 360 00:16:25,690 --> 00:16:27,940 S3: as the season goes on? Because it doesn't look like 361 00:16:27,940 --> 00:16:30,490 S3: there was much of it on Sunday? 362 00:16:31,210 --> 00:16:33,370 S1: Gary, That's that's sort of the concern for me. Is 363 00:16:33,370 --> 00:16:36,490 S1: that not so much the fact that Brooks is not 364 00:16:36,490 --> 00:16:39,340 S1: a decent footy player, it's just can he can he 365 00:16:39,340 --> 00:16:42,580 S1: lead a side around? And I was watching even Dolphins 366 00:16:42,580 --> 00:16:45,460 S1: on Sunday and you know, Sean O'Sullivan, he's a bit 367 00:16:45,460 --> 00:16:47,859 S1: of a journeyman. I know he backed up Cleary last year, 368 00:16:47,860 --> 00:16:51,880 S1: but he sort of, you know, does that six, seven 369 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,680 S1: out of ten game, you know, just does a simple 370 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,020 S1: things well and Brooks he might do a couple of 371 00:16:56,020 --> 00:16:57,640 S1: good things but then there's a couple of errors or 372 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,950 S1: things where you just you go shouldn't shouldn't happen for 373 00:17:00,950 --> 00:17:02,320 S1: a 9 or 10 year halfback. 374 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,149 S2: Yeah, I think we've spoken about it so many times before, 375 00:17:07,150 --> 00:17:08,889 S2: but I don't think he's the player to lead your 376 00:17:08,890 --> 00:17:13,270 S2: team around. And Adam Dewey, if he's playing in the halves, 377 00:17:13,270 --> 00:17:15,160 S2: he's a, he's A58. He's not the guy to lead 378 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,280 S2: the team around either. That's kind of why someone like 379 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,980 S2: Mitchell Moses I think that's exactly why they've gone so hard. 380 00:17:20,980 --> 00:17:23,380 S2: Trying to get him across is because that's what we 381 00:17:23,380 --> 00:17:27,380 S2: really lack in this side. Um. So I think if 382 00:17:27,380 --> 00:17:29,840 S2: we had found a way to score in that first 383 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,869 S2: 20 minutes, that might have relieved a little bit of 384 00:17:32,869 --> 00:17:34,550 S2: the pressure and we may have performed better the rest 385 00:17:34,550 --> 00:17:37,100 S2: of the game. But the amount of unforced errors, The 386 00:17:37,100 --> 00:17:40,790 S2: Drop Ball by Dane Lawrie, the Drop Ball by Luke Brooks, 387 00:17:40,790 --> 00:17:46,070 S2: really simple drop balls under very little pressure. Ultimately, in 388 00:17:46,070 --> 00:17:47,630 S2: the end of the day when you're dropping balls like 389 00:17:47,630 --> 00:17:50,840 S2: that more than one, it makes the game much so 390 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:51,770 S2: much harder to win. 391 00:17:53,210 --> 00:17:54,950 S4: And, um, yeah, I'm not going to be too. 392 00:17:54,970 --> 00:17:57,710 S3: Critical and brutal because obviously it was his first game 393 00:17:57,710 --> 00:17:59,150 S3: this season. You know, it's going to be a little 394 00:17:59,150 --> 00:18:01,520 S3: bit of rust. He doesn't really have a particularly good 395 00:18:01,670 --> 00:18:05,270 S3: tackle percentage either. I think he made eight of 14. 396 00:18:05,270 --> 00:18:06,800 S3: So which is interesting. 397 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,500 S4: Uh, but at the end of the day. 398 00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:11,240 S3: I think that's going to be the biggest test for 399 00:18:11,690 --> 00:18:14,750 S3: that season because they obviously hate Jackson Heath. They obviously 400 00:18:14,750 --> 00:18:18,470 S3: picked Brooks over Jackson Hastings and it seems like, you know, 401 00:18:18,470 --> 00:18:20,450 S3: Templeton was pretty adamant that was going to be the 402 00:18:20,450 --> 00:18:23,420 S3: right thing to do. So obviously, if he can't get 403 00:18:23,420 --> 00:18:25,520 S3: Luke Brooks to fill in that halfback role and you 404 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,159 S3: have to say that that was the wrong decision, wouldn't you, 405 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,090 S3: for that season? 406 00:18:29,270 --> 00:18:32,290 S1: That's why I think it's a huge game this Sunday. 407 00:18:32,300 --> 00:18:34,550 S1: Like people are going to be judging it this Sunday. 408 00:18:35,690 --> 00:18:37,580 S2: If you listen to the media reports that we put 409 00:18:37,580 --> 00:18:41,000 S2: Luke Brooks over Jackson Hastings or do we pick Bateman 410 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,399 S2: over Hastings, that's I think that may be a bit 411 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:44,480 S2: of a question as well. 412 00:18:46,030 --> 00:18:46,389 S5: Um. 413 00:18:47,210 --> 00:18:49,630 S1: Or is that just on the style of play? Like 414 00:18:49,780 --> 00:18:53,650 S1: Gary didn't think like we're talking about the errors. They 415 00:18:53,650 --> 00:18:56,710 S1: didn't look like a heap of errors that were because 416 00:18:56,710 --> 00:18:58,870 S1: everyone was on a different wavelength. It looked like some 417 00:18:58,869 --> 00:19:01,240 S1: of them were just simple ones like this. The final one, like, 418 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,650 S1: he's not going to do that again. He put no 419 00:19:02,650 --> 00:19:04,780 S1: effort in that run and just drop the ball. I 420 00:19:04,780 --> 00:19:07,060 S1: think Lawrie dropped the ball with no one around him. 421 00:19:07,060 --> 00:19:09,500 S1: Like they're quite fixable. I think most of them, which 422 00:19:09,609 --> 00:19:10,959 S1: I think is encouraging. 423 00:19:11,590 --> 00:19:13,090 S2: Hopefully we got them all out of the way in 424 00:19:13,090 --> 00:19:15,429 S2: the one game because there was 3 or 4 of 425 00:19:15,430 --> 00:19:18,160 S2: them where mistakes that you really don't see very often 426 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:22,119 S2: from players just dropping the ball cold. So hopefully we 427 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:23,859 S2: got them all out of the way in one game 428 00:19:23,859 --> 00:19:26,380 S2: and this weekend they hang on to all the difficult ones. 429 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:29,330 S4: Yeah. I'm not gonna lie. I was pretty. 430 00:19:29,330 --> 00:19:31,490 S3: Disappointed to find those first dent. 431 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,679 S4: I feel that whenever he comes up. 432 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:34,580 S3: Against great. 433 00:19:34,580 --> 00:19:36,860 S4: Opposition. Not always a little bit. 434 00:19:36,859 --> 00:19:39,379 S3: Underwhelming, isn't it? He doesn't really seem to be able to, like, 435 00:19:39,380 --> 00:19:41,689 S3: break tackles, play the ball quickly, kind of what the 436 00:19:41,690 --> 00:19:44,300 S3: stuff is on the field for. So. But his second 437 00:19:44,300 --> 00:19:45,440 S3: stint was amazing, though. 438 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:46,969 S4: When there was a little bit more fatigue in. 439 00:19:46,970 --> 00:19:50,600 S3: The game. He was really assertive and he looked really dangerous. 440 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:50,990 S3: So part. 441 00:19:50,990 --> 00:19:53,200 S4: Of me is thinking that maybe if. 442 00:19:53,210 --> 00:19:56,450 S3: You know when man is ready or when someone you 443 00:19:56,450 --> 00:20:00,350 S3: know is ready to fill that 13 jersey. F maybe 444 00:20:00,350 --> 00:20:02,449 S3: it's worthwhile to like puts the fan on the bench 445 00:20:02,450 --> 00:20:04,340 S3: and start your offer because I thought that he was 446 00:20:04,340 --> 00:20:06,410 S3: really good from like pretty much where I'd go from 447 00:20:06,410 --> 00:20:08,150 S3: when he came on off the bench. 448 00:20:08,900 --> 00:20:11,900 S2: I'll definitely have Stefan coming off the bench for at least, 449 00:20:12,140 --> 00:20:14,870 S2: at least the next first five weeks of the season 450 00:20:14,869 --> 00:20:17,120 S2: or so, I think. I think you'd see a much 451 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,790 S2: better player build up his confidence a little bit. You 452 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,680 S2: got to remember he missed a lot of game time 453 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,370 S2: last year. So I think just losing him back again 454 00:20:24,380 --> 00:20:26,660 S2: off the bench would be a much better idea. And 455 00:20:26,660 --> 00:20:28,490 S2: I think you'd get to see a lot better player. 456 00:20:30,300 --> 00:20:33,420 S6: Um, boys thought, you know, looking at that. 457 00:20:33,420 --> 00:20:35,550 S1: Replay, we've been a bit critical of the. 458 00:20:35,550 --> 00:20:38,459 S6: Halves, Gary But like Brent Nathan. 459 00:20:38,460 --> 00:20:40,380 S1: He got some really good early ball. Thought he looks 460 00:20:40,380 --> 00:20:42,600 S1: super dangerous and he looks super fit at the moment. 461 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,460 S1: I think he's, he could be in for a big year. 462 00:20:45,090 --> 00:20:45,750 S7: Yeah. 463 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,770 S2: I was I was really disappointed last year when after 464 00:20:49,770 --> 00:20:51,510 S2: the first three games he played in the centres, the 465 00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:53,910 S2: first three games, then he got suspended and then we 466 00:20:53,910 --> 00:20:55,320 S2: shoved him out on the wing for the rest of 467 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,990 S2: the season. And I, I really don't understand that decision. 468 00:20:57,990 --> 00:21:00,000 S2: I don't think he's a winger. He's an out and 469 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:05,340 S2: out centre. He's big, he's powerful, he's quick. Um, exactly 470 00:21:05,340 --> 00:21:07,650 S2: what we want to see in our centre. And every 471 00:21:07,650 --> 00:21:10,050 S2: time he touches ball, even on a, on a broken 472 00:21:10,050 --> 00:21:14,010 S2: play where he's coming back inside infield, he looks like 473 00:21:14,010 --> 00:21:16,740 S2: he could, could bust through and break the line and 474 00:21:16,740 --> 00:21:19,020 S2: go through and scoring himself. He did. He did that 475 00:21:19,020 --> 00:21:20,820 S2: in a try last year. He scored a try. May 476 00:21:20,820 --> 00:21:23,900 S2: have been the game up in Tamworth where where he 477 00:21:24,150 --> 00:21:27,300 S2: just broken play and he just busted straight through and 478 00:21:27,300 --> 00:21:29,609 S2: ran through and scored and there was a couple of 479 00:21:29,700 --> 00:21:32,100 S2: times on on Sunday where I thought he might do that. 480 00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:37,500 S2: He looks, looks incredibly dangerous. Um, and, and very good 481 00:21:37,500 --> 00:21:39,330 S2: with the ball in his hands he's getting good ball 482 00:21:39,330 --> 00:21:41,550 S2: to his outside men as well. So I think he's 483 00:21:41,550 --> 00:21:42,780 S2: going to have a big season. 484 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,630 S6: Yeah. I mean, Declan, he was the one that caught. 485 00:21:45,630 --> 00:21:48,359 S1: My eye, and the other one was probably even played 486 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,250 S1: 17 minutes with Sean Bloor. I just saw the money. 487 00:21:51,300 --> 00:21:53,040 S1: He might have only made 2 or 3 runs, but 488 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,530 S1: you just look powerful. And I just hope he's not 489 00:21:55,530 --> 00:21:57,420 S1: plagued by. I know this is not an injury, it's 490 00:21:57,420 --> 00:22:01,170 S1: an HIA. But I thought, you know, he was a 491 00:22:01,170 --> 00:22:02,820 S1: bit of a loss there to that on that right 492 00:22:02,820 --> 00:22:03,869 S1: side on Sunday. 493 00:22:04,810 --> 00:22:05,800 S4: Yeah, because he was. 494 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,449 S3: Very strong in the trials when he came on. And 495 00:22:07,450 --> 00:22:09,850 S3: it was weird as well because he came off and 496 00:22:09,850 --> 00:22:12,340 S3: he looked like he was a best shot at making 497 00:22:12,340 --> 00:22:15,730 S3: him come off because obviously the independent doctor with concussions 498 00:22:15,730 --> 00:22:17,650 S3: was a bit of a talking point with a lot 499 00:22:17,650 --> 00:22:20,260 S3: of players saying they were fine, but then he actually 500 00:22:20,260 --> 00:22:22,460 S3: failed the test. So it was a bit of a 501 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,060 S3: odd one, wasn't it? So hopefully he's all right for 502 00:22:25,180 --> 00:22:27,940 S3: for next Sunday. But yeah, it just it just throws 503 00:22:27,940 --> 00:22:30,760 S3: off your rotation off the bench because then had to 504 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,330 S3: play pretty much the full game after that. And I 505 00:22:33,369 --> 00:22:35,439 S3: don't think any of us were like kind of banking 506 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,210 S3: on that for a round on where we. 507 00:22:38,670 --> 00:22:41,640 S1: Nope. We went backing on his error with no one 508 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,280 S1: around him either, but hopefully he'll be better for the run. 509 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,550 S1: Like like a lot of them this Sunday. Let's talk 510 00:22:47,550 --> 00:22:50,880 S1: about the Justin Pasco interview. Gary, I literally listened to 511 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,419 S1: it just before I come on. Um, you obviously did 512 00:22:54,420 --> 00:22:57,380 S1: that on Sunday at the ambush event with Steve. Uh, 513 00:22:57,390 --> 00:23:00,740 S1: there were a number of interesting talking points, I thought, uh, 514 00:23:00,869 --> 00:23:06,340 S1: starting with. The coaching setup, the Sheens Benji, because there 515 00:23:06,340 --> 00:23:09,190 S1: has been some sort of, you know, rumours in the 516 00:23:09,190 --> 00:23:11,710 S1: media and even ourselves have talked about a little bit about, 517 00:23:11,890 --> 00:23:15,159 S1: you know, how much coaching is Benjy actually doing. Again, 518 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,020 S1: you pan up to the box at like that on 519 00:23:17,020 --> 00:23:18,900 S1: Sunday and he's the one with the headset and she's 520 00:23:18,910 --> 00:23:23,590 S1: just sort of sitting in behind him. Um, but Pascoe 521 00:23:23,590 --> 00:23:25,060 S1: sort of downplayed that a little bit. 522 00:23:25,869 --> 00:23:28,780 S2: Yeah, he was quite adamant to me that it didn't. 523 00:23:28,990 --> 00:23:31,719 S2: The setup is Tim trains as the head coach and 524 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:37,390 S2: and Benji's assistant coach. Um, I think I think it's 525 00:23:37,390 --> 00:23:40,960 S2: going to be a transition. I don't think we're going 526 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,540 S2: to go through two years of Tim Sheens coach and 527 00:23:43,540 --> 00:23:45,790 S2: then at the end of that two years, suddenly Benji 528 00:23:45,790 --> 00:23:48,430 S2: Marshall's the head coach. To me, it doesn't look like 529 00:23:48,430 --> 00:23:51,310 S2: that's what's happening now to me. I think it's going 530 00:23:51,310 --> 00:23:55,000 S2: to be Benji taking on more and more responsibility over 531 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,239 S2: this two years and Tim Sheens taking on less and 532 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,120 S2: less and kind of supporting Benji into developing into that 533 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,990 S2: role and I think part of that is Benji running 534 00:24:04,990 --> 00:24:08,110 S2: the side from the box, which I think it appears everyone, 535 00:24:08,109 --> 00:24:10,300 S2: he's the one with the microphone, with the walkie talkie 536 00:24:10,300 --> 00:24:13,060 S2: in his hand. He's the one sending the message down 537 00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:15,610 S2: the bench, down to the bench. So I think he's 538 00:24:15,609 --> 00:24:18,490 S2: doing a lot of that already. That doesn't mean that 539 00:24:18,490 --> 00:24:22,300 S2: Tim Sheens isn't ultimately responsible. It just means Benji is 540 00:24:22,300 --> 00:24:24,280 S2: taking on a little bit more than what a typical 541 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,270 S2: assistant coach would. 542 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,440 S1: Pascoe did say Declan caught I think caught Gary a 543 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,960 S1: little bit off guard. Um, and he said we had 544 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,870 S1: no idea if Benji could coach. He sort of clarified 545 00:24:34,869 --> 00:24:37,900 S1: that a little bit later, but you can see how 546 00:24:38,170 --> 00:24:42,700 S1: it's going to be a storyline, you know, particularly if hopefully, 547 00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:44,350 S1: you know, we're not. But if we're going on a 548 00:24:44,350 --> 00:24:47,740 S1: losing streak, it's it's going to be well you know 549 00:24:47,890 --> 00:24:50,710 S1: machines not coaching at all and blah blah blah. So 550 00:24:50,710 --> 00:24:53,050 S1: I think I think it's probably not a bad thing 551 00:24:53,050 --> 00:24:54,879 S1: to do because you've got to get this guy ready 552 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:59,250 S1: for 2025 and he's got no coaching experience coming in. Um, 553 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,150 S1: so I think it's the right thing to do, but 554 00:25:01,150 --> 00:25:03,149 S1: there will be a point where they're sort of I 555 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:04,420 S1: think they'll get pressed on it. 556 00:25:05,390 --> 00:25:07,060 S4: That's the same, though. They're going to get pissed on it. 557 00:25:07,060 --> 00:25:10,030 S3: Because it was a insanely crazy thing to do. And 558 00:25:10,030 --> 00:25:12,010 S3: I don't mean crazy in a negative or a bad 559 00:25:12,010 --> 00:25:14,290 S3: way or even a positive way. It was just like 560 00:25:14,290 --> 00:25:16,810 S3: such a left of field option, wasn't it? 561 00:25:16,810 --> 00:25:19,960 S4: And I think it took everyone by surprise. And, you know, 562 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:20,890 S4: it's just so easy. 563 00:25:20,890 --> 00:25:23,350 S3: For media to kind of come in and, you know, 564 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,060 S3: kind of say what they want about it, because at 565 00:25:25,060 --> 00:25:26,950 S3: the end of the day, no one really does know 566 00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:29,050 S3: what the coaching structure is like at the Tigers at 567 00:25:29,050 --> 00:25:32,229 S3: the moment unless you're actually inside the four walls, do you? 568 00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:35,740 S3: So with situations like that, it becomes rife for speculation 569 00:25:35,740 --> 00:25:39,130 S3: on certain TV shows that are on every night. 570 00:25:39,940 --> 00:25:42,430 S6: Yeah. Mean. I mean. 571 00:25:42,970 --> 00:25:45,909 S1: Declan, you like to, you know, praise your Bulldogs and 572 00:25:45,910 --> 00:25:48,669 S1: Gus Gould. And, you know, he's a lot of the 573 00:25:48,670 --> 00:25:52,929 S1: stuff they did, um, is about bringing back the Canterbury DNA. 574 00:25:52,930 --> 00:25:54,669 S1: And I know they went after Suitor, but we had 575 00:25:54,670 --> 00:25:56,890 S1: the same plan. We went out to the Cerrado. But 576 00:25:56,890 --> 00:25:59,169 S1: you know, I see they've bought back, you know, their 577 00:25:59,170 --> 00:26:01,540 S1: Willy Mason's and Marco Millie and it's sort of been 578 00:26:01,540 --> 00:26:04,119 S1: happening at the Tigers. You've got obviously Robbie and Benji 579 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,169 S1: back and Tim back and even Chris Huntington back Richard 580 00:26:08,170 --> 00:26:11,440 S1: Scan though all those guys who do are invested in 581 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,930 S1: terms of passion they have for the club in the past. 582 00:26:13,930 --> 00:26:17,920 S1: So at least they do seem to be committing to 583 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,780 S1: this plan. Like you said, it's a bit of a 584 00:26:19,780 --> 00:26:22,510 S1: wild plan with having someone like Benji with no experience, 585 00:26:22,510 --> 00:26:25,359 S1: but they've tried other things that haven't worked, so they're 586 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,260 S1: going back to they keep saying this Tigers DNA. We'll 587 00:26:29,260 --> 00:26:30,010 S1: see if it works. 588 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,310 S4: Yeah, we will think it's just a good thing overall 589 00:26:33,310 --> 00:26:34,150 S4: for every team. 590 00:26:34,150 --> 00:26:37,840 S3: To kind of embrace you know all that made them 591 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,450 S3: made the fans love them in the first place, especially 592 00:26:40,450 --> 00:26:42,669 S3: the players. Because if you look at like the past 593 00:26:42,670 --> 00:26:45,370 S3: ten years, it's not been that great, has it? So 594 00:26:45,369 --> 00:26:48,310 S3: to have these guys who like zero five and, you know, 2010, 595 00:26:48,790 --> 00:26:51,850 S3: 2010 or 2011 come back, I think it's only good 596 00:26:51,850 --> 00:26:54,310 S3: because it remains the players who are there. You know, 597 00:26:54,310 --> 00:26:57,010 S3: the club can be successful. As you can see guys 598 00:26:57,010 --> 00:27:00,010 S3: like Robbie Fowler, Benji Marshall, if you're training them with 599 00:27:00,010 --> 00:27:02,320 S3: them every day, they remind you and it's something to 600 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,449 S3: strive towards because we just haven't really had that in 601 00:27:04,450 --> 00:27:05,590 S3: recent years, have we? 602 00:27:05,740 --> 00:27:06,340 S1: No, we haven't. 603 00:27:06,340 --> 00:27:07,859 S6: Gary, your thoughts on, um. 604 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,800 S1: Just the, the amount of change Pascoe touched it on Sunday. 605 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,640 S1: It's basically not just a coaching team, it's high performance team, 606 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,920 S1: medical team. I think he's had 14 of the top 607 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,130 S1: 30 roster turnover, a whole new facility. So it's not 608 00:27:21,130 --> 00:27:24,250 S1: like they've been twiddling their thumbs after the wooden spoon 609 00:27:24,250 --> 00:27:25,090 S1: sort of last year. 610 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,850 S2: Yeah, I think he said that the, the only one 611 00:27:27,850 --> 00:27:32,260 S2: that's still left is the club doctor. Um, and Simon 612 00:27:32,260 --> 00:27:36,070 S2: Dwyer I think as well. Still still there. So it 613 00:27:36,070 --> 00:27:37,989 S2: is a lot of change and, and I think that 614 00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:40,540 S2: was my first question to him was about the amount 615 00:27:40,540 --> 00:27:45,609 S2: of change and we're talking about last year how whether 616 00:27:45,609 --> 00:27:47,140 S2: the wooden spoon would lead to a lot of a 617 00:27:47,170 --> 00:27:49,270 S2: lot of change at the club. Most of that change 618 00:27:49,270 --> 00:27:53,350 S2: happened before that. And I think that's that's probably a 619 00:27:53,350 --> 00:27:56,440 S2: positive moving forward that we're it just hasn't been that 620 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,520 S2: offseason to get that change implemented. It's been it's pushing 621 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,090 S2: 12 months now since changes were made about around the 622 00:28:04,090 --> 00:28:08,090 S2: coaching staff. So hopefully we start to see that um, 623 00:28:08,109 --> 00:28:10,660 S2: transfer to the footy field and we start to see 624 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,939 S2: a little bit more positive results than we've seen for 625 00:28:12,940 --> 00:28:14,080 S2: the last 12 months. 626 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,590 S1: Yeah. And I'm in line with that. Declan, which he 627 00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:21,880 S1: was quite candid about, was, um, home ground debate. I know. Um, 628 00:28:22,150 --> 00:28:24,159 S1: you know, Joel will be devastated to hear this, but 629 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,639 S1: it doesn't look like, you know, the old ANZ stadiums 630 00:28:26,650 --> 00:28:28,930 S1: in the future plan for the Tigers. It looks like 631 00:28:28,930 --> 00:28:31,750 S1: it's back to suburbia. It looks like if it wasn't 632 00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:34,659 S1: the Women's World Cup, he said we'd be playing all 633 00:28:34,660 --> 00:28:38,020 S1: our home games there this year. I think he's, you know, 634 00:28:38,020 --> 00:28:41,320 S1: not including Magic Round and Tamworth there but he, he 635 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:46,390 S1: did say uh, looking like potentially A55 split next year 636 00:28:46,390 --> 00:28:49,840 S1: or A65 split in Campbelltown favour to Likert with one 637 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,310 S1: magic round game. I think. I think that's a good move. 638 00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:56,680 S1: I know they want money and there's probably using it 639 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,260 S1: as leverage to try and get some money to upgrade 640 00:28:59,260 --> 00:29:02,500 S1: the grounds. But if you're going back to, you know, 641 00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:06,040 S1: this philosophy that they're doing with Tigers DNA and trying 642 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,470 S1: to get the fan base sort of united a bit more, 643 00:29:08,500 --> 00:29:11,170 S1: you can't just keep playing at five and six home grounds. 644 00:29:11,170 --> 00:29:12,130 S1: It's ridiculous. 645 00:29:12,670 --> 00:29:14,770 S4: Yeah. And I think Joel will also be sad. There's 646 00:29:14,770 --> 00:29:16,210 S4: no come apparently. 647 00:29:16,210 --> 00:29:16,630 S3: For the West. 648 00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:19,240 S4: Tigers next year as well. So I think we'll be 649 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,230 S4: devastated about that. 650 00:29:20,230 --> 00:29:21,190 S3: But I. 651 00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:22,870 S4: Do think that the clubs will be like fairly. 652 00:29:22,870 --> 00:29:24,150 S3: Consistent with. 653 00:29:24,180 --> 00:29:26,920 S4: Um, it's been fairly consistent. 654 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,060 S3: With the fact that they do want to kind of 655 00:29:28,060 --> 00:29:30,580 S3: split it between Campbelltown like and I just think the 656 00:29:30,580 --> 00:29:32,830 S3: energy session at this point is probably a good decision, 657 00:29:32,830 --> 00:29:34,930 S3: if you know what I mean. Just make it, commit 658 00:29:34,930 --> 00:29:37,480 S3: to it and then hopefully they can get funding later 659 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,450 S3: because yeah, completely agree with you Eddie. Feel like we've 660 00:29:40,450 --> 00:29:42,370 S3: had so many home runs to the point where it's 661 00:29:42,370 --> 00:29:46,270 S3: kind of eroded any, um, you know, like home crowd 662 00:29:46,270 --> 00:29:48,580 S3: advantage that we might have had if we had just 663 00:29:48,580 --> 00:29:51,610 S3: played like a split in Campbelltown and like and plus, 664 00:29:51,610 --> 00:29:54,650 S3: if we want to develop our supporter base in Campbelltown, 665 00:29:54,670 --> 00:29:57,040 S3: continue to play there and take good games out there 666 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,900 S3: to develop a fan base. 667 00:29:59,170 --> 00:30:01,180 S2: And the other thing you did say along those lines 668 00:30:01,180 --> 00:30:03,969 S2: is that they're going to fight for funding for both 669 00:30:03,970 --> 00:30:08,470 S2: Campbelltown and Lockhart Oval. So I think a lot of 670 00:30:08,470 --> 00:30:10,750 S2: it depends on it. I think any long term commitment 671 00:30:10,750 --> 00:30:14,680 S2: to those grounds will be reliant on on them being 672 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,860 S2: able to secure funding for upgrades. Um, so I think 673 00:30:17,860 --> 00:30:21,070 S2: that's going to be a fairly important part of that strategy. 674 00:30:21,070 --> 00:30:24,730 S2: And I think no matter what you think of just 675 00:30:24,730 --> 00:30:28,150 S2: one Pascoe, one thing he has done well while he's 676 00:30:28,150 --> 00:30:33,070 S2: been at the club is organise money from government agencies for, 677 00:30:33,070 --> 00:30:37,989 S2: for infrastructure, for the centre of Excellence at Concord. And 678 00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:42,830 S2: now the the. Academy that they're building down in in Campbeltown. 679 00:30:43,220 --> 00:30:46,330 S2: I think he's done a really good job of that. So, um, 680 00:30:46,940 --> 00:30:49,760 S2: that's a positive if he can if he can secure 681 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,020 S2: funding for both those stadiums and and get those stadiums upgraded, 682 00:30:54,410 --> 00:30:56,360 S2: then I think that goes a long way to a 683 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,130 S2: really strong legacy at the club. 684 00:30:58,790 --> 00:31:01,310 S1: He was quite Gary. He was quite a little bit 685 00:31:01,310 --> 00:31:04,520 S1: of wit there about, um, the fact that Pat seem 686 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,520 S1: to be getting this big upgrade and he's, you know, 687 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,100 S1: you mentioned it was your area and they should spend 688 00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:12,370 S1: maybe 5 million there rather than 300 million. 689 00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:15,590 S2: I'd be quite happy with 5 million being spent there. 690 00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:18,440 S2: And and I'll be honest, I do live in the area. 691 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,110 S2: And most of the talk, especially the talk around the 692 00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:26,930 S2: not upgrading, um, Penrith Park, they're actually taking the, the 693 00:31:26,930 --> 00:31:30,260 S2: trotting track next door and building the stadium there and, 694 00:31:30,260 --> 00:31:32,840 S2: and that hasn't gone down very well with a lot 695 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,740 S2: of people in the Penrith district as well. So um, yeah, 696 00:31:36,740 --> 00:31:37,610 S2: who knows. 697 00:31:37,700 --> 00:31:40,160 S6: Why is that not going down? Well just interested. 698 00:31:41,060 --> 00:31:45,380 S2: The pace wise. Been there for a long time now and, 699 00:31:45,420 --> 00:31:47,900 S2: and pretty much that's getting taken away to build a 700 00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:48,890 S2: new football stadium. 701 00:31:49,550 --> 00:31:49,880 S6: Okay. 702 00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:53,060 S1: All right. Um, let's talk about the game, boys. We're 703 00:31:53,060 --> 00:31:55,040 S1: back to, like, this Sunday, or I'm back to like 704 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,950 S1: it Anyway. I missed last week, I reckon probably my first. 705 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,370 S6: We were, like, for 20 years. I know you were there. 706 00:32:01,370 --> 00:32:04,310 S1: You were cursed. Scary. So I'm coming back to hopefully 707 00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:05,450 S1: bring a victory. 708 00:32:05,450 --> 00:32:07,400 S2: I think it was the fact that Steve came down. 709 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,330 S2: Think yeah. 710 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,520 S8: Yes he would have even he you know like his 711 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,489 S8: favourite player Brooks he. 712 00:32:14,510 --> 00:32:18,060 S1: Said even I can't defend him last week so depressing 713 00:32:18,060 --> 00:32:19,640 S1: him on it tonight but not to be. 714 00:32:20,060 --> 00:32:20,630 S6: So Declan. 715 00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:21,770 S2: Took the role up for him. 716 00:32:22,220 --> 00:32:24,020 S6: Yeah. Yeah. I'm still I'm. 717 00:32:24,020 --> 00:32:26,660 S1: Still in shock about that. But I'll I'll try and 718 00:32:26,660 --> 00:32:29,090 S1: find out the background of that later. There must be something, 719 00:32:29,090 --> 00:32:29,930 S1: something behind it. 720 00:32:29,930 --> 00:32:30,650 S6: But what's the. 721 00:32:30,650 --> 00:32:32,720 S2: Medium on the game after the game on Sunday? 722 00:32:33,260 --> 00:32:34,520 S4: Yeah. He's a good bloke. 723 00:32:34,730 --> 00:32:38,270 S1: See our team. So the. 724 00:32:38,270 --> 00:32:40,990 S6: Only change is safe. 725 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,200 S1: Outing for the injured for new poll to be confirmed 726 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,450 S1: the knee injury. So always a slight concern when you 727 00:32:47,450 --> 00:32:50,570 S1: see that tbc next to someone's name. Declan. 728 00:32:51,510 --> 00:32:54,660 S4: Yeah, because I was. I initially thought he'd be. 729 00:32:54,660 --> 00:32:56,130 S3: Dropped because if you look. 730 00:32:56,130 --> 00:32:57,420 S4: Closely, I'm the. 731 00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:02,910 S3: Sorry the Bramson try wasn't 100% his fault. But, you know, 732 00:33:02,910 --> 00:33:05,280 S3: you don't chase enough on the inside. And that's kind 733 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,070 S3: of where the whole kind of, um, kind of opened 734 00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:09,960 S3: up when he got turned back on the inside and 735 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,750 S3: he bust through. So I actually thought he was dropped because, 736 00:33:12,750 --> 00:33:15,090 S3: you know, C5 has he's a bit more safe, but 737 00:33:15,090 --> 00:33:18,180 S3: then obviously came out here to me injury and I'm 738 00:33:18,180 --> 00:33:20,790 S3: very scared because you know he was in for a 739 00:33:20,790 --> 00:33:23,640 S3: very premier. And as you said, you know, it doesn't 740 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,030 S3: sound like it's very good, does it, when, you know, 741 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,320 S3: they haven't confirmed it yet, which makes me kind of 742 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,110 S3: think that they're just waiting to give it some bad news. 743 00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:31,710 S3: But on the bright. 744 00:33:31,710 --> 00:33:32,700 S4: Side, thought that. 745 00:33:33,690 --> 00:33:38,610 S3: James and Final Cut were really strong as well. So 746 00:33:38,610 --> 00:33:41,550 S3: hopefully if he does end up missing some time, those 747 00:33:41,550 --> 00:33:44,380 S3: guys get a chance as well because the new Turbos 748 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,050 S3: Cup team overall was very strong. 749 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,340 S6: Yeah, apparently. 750 00:33:47,610 --> 00:33:49,500 S1: Brandon Wake have had a hand in four tries. Is 751 00:33:49,500 --> 00:33:49,979 S1: that right? 752 00:33:50,430 --> 00:33:52,460 S4: Yeah. He dad he dad he was really good. He 753 00:33:52,590 --> 00:33:52,979 S4: think he's one. 754 00:33:52,980 --> 00:33:55,270 S3: Of those guys where he's obviously too good for those 755 00:33:55,290 --> 00:33:58,200 S3: cup you know style questions of him and frustrated but 756 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,860 S3: well Smith as well we had a great game I 757 00:34:00,870 --> 00:34:03,720 S3: think they obviously they put a base during the roosters. 758 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,210 S4: You know everyone's new. 759 00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:08,760 S3: Favorite guy Jeremy Burleigh you know had that amazing. 760 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,920 S4: Full length try, which Joe wasn't very impressed. 761 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:11,340 S3: With. 762 00:34:11,550 --> 00:34:14,339 S4: Must be said in the group chat. But I thought everyone. 763 00:34:14,340 --> 00:34:16,169 S3: Kind of played well and it's really good as well 764 00:34:16,170 --> 00:34:19,290 S3: because they're actually a really young team. That New South 765 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,390 S3: Wales Cup team like a lot of guys intelligible for 766 00:34:21,390 --> 00:34:25,770 S3: 20 and there's a lot of guys there that, you know, 767 00:34:25,830 --> 00:34:27,810 S3: have a lot of years ahead of them and so 768 00:34:27,810 --> 00:34:30,480 S3: hopefully they continue to play that well. 769 00:34:31,230 --> 00:34:33,480 S2: Speaking about that reserve grade game for a little bit, 770 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,390 S2: I actually didn't think that I'd made a try. That 771 00:34:36,390 --> 00:34:38,550 S2: bull scored was the highlight of his game. I thought 772 00:34:38,550 --> 00:34:41,580 S2: he's he's passing when timing into the line and under 773 00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:45,770 S2: pressure Quick passes right on onto the chest of his 774 00:34:45,780 --> 00:34:48,750 S2: centers They were beautiful balls and I think that really 775 00:34:48,750 --> 00:34:51,840 S2: impressed me more than than the try did and the 776 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,670 S2: try was really impressive as well. Um, so I'm really hopeful. I'm, 777 00:34:56,670 --> 00:34:59,010 S2: I really want to watch some, some more of those 778 00:34:59,010 --> 00:35:01,980 S2: reserve grade games this year to kind of see see 779 00:35:01,980 --> 00:35:03,660 S2: him develop because I think he's going to be a 780 00:35:03,660 --> 00:35:04,200 S2: good one. 781 00:35:04,350 --> 00:35:04,950 S6: Looking at. 782 00:35:04,950 --> 00:35:05,700 S1: The team. 783 00:35:05,700 --> 00:35:06,420 S6: Declan, it's. 784 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,690 S1: No surprises, no real changes. I mean, it's not time 785 00:35:09,690 --> 00:35:13,110 S1: to work out or throw out what you've worked on 786 00:35:13,110 --> 00:35:15,900 S1: in the off season. I'd just, you know, I'd probably 787 00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:18,480 S1: bet the house that our people start this week. 788 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,760 S8: I don't care if his calf still whatever. I just 789 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,800 S8: think we can't afford. 790 00:35:22,980 --> 00:35:25,620 S1: To get to like out this week and be 12 791 00:35:25,620 --> 00:35:27,779 S1: nil down and have the crowd out of the game. 792 00:35:28,730 --> 00:35:31,330 S4: Well, I don't know about that. I think that tensions. 793 00:35:31,330 --> 00:35:34,299 S3: Are showing that he's not really too bothered about what 794 00:35:34,390 --> 00:35:35,320 S3: his fans think. 795 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,310 S4: And that's probably a good. 796 00:35:36,460 --> 00:35:39,180 S1: Yes, stop and don't worry about that. Remember his first thing, 797 00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:41,710 S1: He doesn't care what the fans think in terms of 798 00:35:41,710 --> 00:35:44,969 S1: picking sides, nor should you. But it's also about, um, 799 00:35:45,340 --> 00:35:47,950 S1: you know, not ending up sacked like he did last time. 800 00:35:48,610 --> 00:35:51,069 S4: Well, I don't think he's going to get sacked. Think he's. He's. 801 00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:51,970 S4: He said himself. 802 00:35:51,969 --> 00:35:55,509 S3: He's the longest interim coach there's ever been so that's 803 00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:57,580 S3: an interesting one. But yeah, I'm hopeful as well that 804 00:35:57,620 --> 00:36:00,219 S3: after course starts I actually had a feeling that he 805 00:36:00,219 --> 00:36:02,440 S3: wasn't even going to play at all on Sunday because 806 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,510 S3: you could just tell that the club was kind of 807 00:36:05,530 --> 00:36:08,259 S3: hiding something with him, that they weren't really hiding. But 808 00:36:08,260 --> 00:36:11,259 S3: hopefully he starts and hopefully he gets through most of 809 00:36:11,260 --> 00:36:13,750 S3: the game and lays on a few tries for the, 810 00:36:13,989 --> 00:36:15,040 S3: for especially hopefully. 811 00:36:15,050 --> 00:36:16,600 S4: Alex Well, so they stop giving. 812 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,790 S3: Them the ball every two times a set. 813 00:36:19,420 --> 00:36:20,560 S4: During the next the try line. 814 00:36:20,860 --> 00:36:22,330 S6: Yeah that storyline all year. 815 00:36:22,510 --> 00:36:25,029 S8: I'm tired of that storyline of Alex 12 Gary. 816 00:36:26,350 --> 00:36:30,580 S1: Speaking of hiding things or what is going on. John 817 00:36:30,580 --> 00:36:34,540 S1: Bateman Gary seems to be, you know, enjoying Bondi Beach 818 00:36:34,540 --> 00:36:37,840 S1: and stuff, looking at Instagram and acclimatising and maybe, maybe 819 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,000 S1: he's just going to, you know, spend six months on 820 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,469 S1: the beach and we'll see him next year. Is that 821 00:36:41,469 --> 00:36:42,490 S1: the plan? What's going on? 822 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,350 S2: I don't really know what the plan is. It has 823 00:36:45,350 --> 00:36:48,950 S2: been hot this week. So. So maybe for a mom 824 00:36:48,950 --> 00:36:51,590 S2: who's just coming into the country who when you have 825 00:36:51,590 --> 00:36:54,430 S2: a look at him, he's he's very white like that. 826 00:36:54,430 --> 00:36:56,240 S2: That skin needs a little bit of a tan. So 827 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,009 S2: spending some time at the beach might do him a 828 00:36:58,010 --> 00:37:01,160 S2: little bit of good. But he's also he's fairly active 829 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,239 S2: out and about. Um, so hopefully there's not too much 830 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,250 S2: to the story that there may be, I think an 831 00:37:07,250 --> 00:37:11,810 S2: ankle injury. I think, uh, Declan said or 360 said, 832 00:37:12,469 --> 00:37:14,570 S2: hopefully there's not too much of that story. 833 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,549 S1: Oh yeah, it's got to be an injury, doesn't it? 834 00:37:16,550 --> 00:37:21,620 S1: Because like, please acclimatize what I remember Alan Langen jumping 835 00:37:21,620 --> 00:37:23,930 S1: off a plane and playing for Queensland two days after 836 00:37:23,930 --> 00:37:26,660 S1: an Origin game. Like if he was fit, surely he'd 837 00:37:26,660 --> 00:37:28,280 S1: be playing at least on the bench this week. 838 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,469 S2: Yeah, I think there's even got to be an injury 839 00:37:30,469 --> 00:37:33,200 S2: or he's conditioning isn't what they were hoping it was 840 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,149 S2: going to be when he got here. I'm not sure 841 00:37:35,150 --> 00:37:40,790 S2: which one it is, but hopefully I'll be really worried. 842 00:37:40,790 --> 00:37:43,190 S2: If we don't see him next week. I can give 843 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,140 S2: him the two weeks, but if we don't see him 844 00:37:45,140 --> 00:37:46,969 S2: next week, I'm I'm going to start to get a 845 00:37:46,969 --> 00:37:47,870 S2: little bit concerned. 846 00:37:48,260 --> 00:37:49,880 S4: And it'd be fair to the club. He hasn't had 847 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,730 S4: a pre-season. I know he's been training by himself, but 848 00:37:52,730 --> 00:37:53,090 S4: that's just. 849 00:37:53,090 --> 00:37:55,280 S3: Not the same as, you know, being in. 850 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,480 S4: An environment. 851 00:37:56,810 --> 00:37:59,719 S2: I trained by myself. Declan And that's the results I 852 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:00,410 S2: end up with. 853 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:05,180 S4: Yeah, yeah. Ankle injury, all from his tag for three weeks. Yeah. 854 00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:08,750 S1: He hasn't had a pre-season. Declan We're paying in big money. 855 00:38:08,750 --> 00:38:13,430 S1: We've lost our first game. If he's fit 70%, 80% fit. 856 00:38:13,430 --> 00:38:15,170 S1: I want him playing this week because we need to win. 857 00:38:15,830 --> 00:38:17,720 S4: Yeah, but what if he comes out and he's just 858 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,750 S4: completely underdone and he plays terribly? And then. 859 00:38:21,130 --> 00:38:23,359 S3: Like, as you said, the pressure gets to us because 860 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,549 S3: we paid, you know, good money on a four year 861 00:38:25,550 --> 00:38:26,000 S3: deal for. 862 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:26,840 S4: Someone. 863 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,200 S3: That, you know isn't ready yet to play in the NRL. 864 00:38:30,830 --> 00:38:33,529 S1: I disagree. I mean, if I just put it to 865 00:38:33,530 --> 00:38:35,660 S1: bed and say he's injured, he's out with an ankle 866 00:38:35,660 --> 00:38:39,260 S1: to round for, but don't say he's acclimatising like we 867 00:38:39,469 --> 00:38:41,629 S1: we what are we going to do, lose the first 868 00:38:41,630 --> 00:38:44,660 S1: ten games and acclimatise to the season Like I just 869 00:38:44,660 --> 00:38:46,450 S1: can't cope it I just but then. 870 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,400 S4: We'll coach it for you know signing a player with 871 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,200 S4: an ankle injury. So it's kind of a lose lose 872 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,330 S4: situation for the club. So can kind of just. 873 00:38:53,870 --> 00:38:56,180 S1: You might cop a little bit the saying he's got 874 00:38:56,180 --> 00:38:59,360 S1: an ankle injury, but I think there'll be less frustration 875 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,870 S1: in the fan base than saying he's acclimatising, you know, 876 00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:04,550 S1: and not playing. Gary, what do you think? 877 00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:07,460 S2: Yeah, I guess if he's injured, you come out and 878 00:39:07,460 --> 00:39:09,800 S2: say he's injured. I don't. Players get injured all the 879 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,200 S2: time and signing a player that he's carrying an injury 880 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,870 S2: as long as it's not a career threatening injury or 881 00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:17,420 S2: a long term injury, signing a player who's going to 882 00:39:17,420 --> 00:39:19,730 S2: be out for a few weeks isn't a major issue. 883 00:39:19,730 --> 00:39:21,819 S2: So if that's the case, come out and say it. Um, 884 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,580 S2: who knows? Maybe he is acclimatising, maybe settling into his 885 00:39:25,580 --> 00:39:26,660 S2: new house. I don't know. 886 00:39:26,890 --> 00:39:29,000 S1: I think maybe. Gary the Declan's part of the coaching 887 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,549 S1: staff this year has been very, very positive. I just. 888 00:39:31,550 --> 00:39:33,230 S1: I just don't know if this would have happened last 889 00:39:33,230 --> 00:39:34,190 S1: year under Madge. 890 00:39:35,090 --> 00:39:36,649 S4: Have you ever had jetlag before? 891 00:39:36,650 --> 00:39:40,790 S3: It can stay with you for definitely more than two weeks. Seriously. 892 00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:42,560 S2: He's very defensive. 893 00:39:42,620 --> 00:39:45,200 S6: Like they come out and say jetlag. 894 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,270 S1: Then that will I will fly over the edge. 895 00:39:48,980 --> 00:39:50,210 S4: Yeah that might. That would be. 896 00:39:50,210 --> 00:39:51,620 S3: Funny wouldn't it? But yeah. 897 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,390 S4: I was hopeful that he'd at least. 898 00:39:53,390 --> 00:39:56,359 S3: Be named on the extended bench this week just to 899 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,610 S3: keep people guessing and then probably not play. But yeah. 900 00:39:59,630 --> 00:40:00,710 S4: Hopefully next week. 901 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,700 S3: He plays because we definitely need him, especially if Flora 902 00:40:05,150 --> 00:40:09,350 S3: is out with the concussions because although it's just a 903 00:40:09,350 --> 00:40:11,750 S3: head knock as low. But scary isn't it because he's 904 00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:13,880 S3: he hasn't really managed to stay on the field for 905 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:16,190 S3: any amount of time in the last few years. 906 00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:20,630 S2: And the issue I do have is, is C5 plays 907 00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:25,489 S2: a lot of games this season, then we're really going 908 00:40:25,489 --> 00:40:28,729 S2: to the bottom of our depth. I don't think he's 909 00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:32,840 S2: quite an aerial standard. And I I'd said on our 910 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,120 S2: forum today that I don't like to speak poorly of 911 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,969 S2: him because he's a guy that tries hard. He works 912 00:40:37,969 --> 00:40:41,420 S2: incredibly hard, he's a great trainer, but he's just not 913 00:40:41,420 --> 00:40:44,030 S2: NRL quality. And I think I think that's a little 914 00:40:44,030 --> 00:40:46,009 S2: bit of an issue. If we have to rely on 915 00:40:46,010 --> 00:40:49,120 S2: him for more than a game here and there. Um, 916 00:40:49,250 --> 00:40:52,669 S2: so hopefully we see Bateman back and, and can take 917 00:40:52,670 --> 00:40:54,680 S2: that role and hopefully Paul is not out for too 918 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,500 S2: long because I don't want to see SIF there too often. 919 00:40:58,250 --> 00:41:01,100 S6: It might be. I'll probably said it in the past, Gary, 920 00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:04,040 S6: but to be fair, like he sort of, you know, 921 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:04,790 S6: like he was. 922 00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:07,069 S1: Playing in a poor squad last year so far and 923 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,770 S1: there are times where you sort of think he can 924 00:41:09,770 --> 00:41:11,870 S1: make an impact. I thought, I think it was maybe 925 00:41:11,870 --> 00:41:14,150 S1: the first trial this year, Gary, where he might have 926 00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:15,950 S1: started or played long minutes and was decent and. 927 00:41:15,950 --> 00:41:16,310 S6: Then. 928 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,919 S2: It was good for the first 15 minutes of that 929 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,040 S2: first trial. I thought he kind of let out during 930 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,810 S2: that time. But then the typical one error again, 2 931 00:41:26,810 --> 00:41:29,570 S2: or 3 penalties that he shouldn't give away a game. 932 00:41:29,570 --> 00:41:32,270 S2: And these are things that as a side coming off 933 00:41:32,270 --> 00:41:35,960 S2: a wooden spoon and a side rebuilding and and with 934 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,509 S2: new players, we can't afford for him to be making 935 00:41:38,510 --> 00:41:41,000 S2: those mistakes. And and for me he just makes too 936 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:41,670 S2: many of them. 937 00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:42,939 S3: I think it's interesting because. 938 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,070 S4: They only played 20 minutes towards the end of the game, 939 00:41:45,070 --> 00:41:45,820 S4: didn't they? So it's. 940 00:41:45,820 --> 00:41:46,570 S3: Not like. 941 00:41:46,570 --> 00:41:47,890 S4: We have to replace someone. 942 00:41:47,890 --> 00:41:50,850 S3: Who is playing huge minutes. It's very clear that playmaker 943 00:41:50,890 --> 00:41:53,380 S3: played the entire first half, most of the second half 944 00:41:53,390 --> 00:41:55,720 S3: so was obviously going to be there and try was 945 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,600 S3: a big minute player as well. So that's the one 946 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,610 S3: good thing about poly is that, you know, you're not 947 00:42:00,610 --> 00:42:04,720 S3: really asking Alex to play sexy minutes, which could only 948 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:05,549 S3: be a good thing and. 949 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,239 S4: Maybe a little bit more quality. 950 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,219 S3: Over quantity for the big red head. 951 00:42:09,580 --> 00:42:12,490 S2: The issue I have with that is, Paul, I should 952 00:42:12,489 --> 00:42:15,399 S2: have played a lot more minutes last week. I thought 953 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,060 S2: once he came onto the field he stiffened up that 954 00:42:19,060 --> 00:42:21,490 S2: defence in the middle. He came on around that 60 955 00:42:21,489 --> 00:42:25,450 S2: minute mark. That's when our line speed really picked up 956 00:42:25,450 --> 00:42:27,400 S2: and we hold them down on coming out from their 957 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,130 S2: own line. That's something we really haven't spoken about on 958 00:42:30,130 --> 00:42:33,190 S2: either the last two pods. How good that defense in 959 00:42:33,190 --> 00:42:35,020 S2: that period was, the way they were getting up off 960 00:42:35,020 --> 00:42:37,450 S2: the line quick and getting up in the faces that 961 00:42:37,450 --> 00:42:41,020 S2: was led by by. I know they said so. That 962 00:42:41,020 --> 00:42:43,660 S2: was led by Steph coming back on and Paul coming 963 00:42:43,660 --> 00:42:45,339 S2: on onto the field. I thought they were really great 964 00:42:45,340 --> 00:42:49,730 S2: on that. And I think if I'm really honest with 965 00:42:49,730 --> 00:42:52,670 S2: the ball in hand, Polly is one of our more 966 00:42:52,670 --> 00:42:56,180 S2: dangerous forwards. He's footwork at the line. He's a he's 967 00:42:56,180 --> 00:42:59,690 S2: a threat of busting through that line almost every time 968 00:42:59,690 --> 00:43:03,620 S2: he runs the ball. And and he should be increasing 969 00:43:03,620 --> 00:43:06,440 S2: minutes and I would love to see him getting up 970 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,230 S2: towards those 40 minutes a game. And that's where it's 971 00:43:09,230 --> 00:43:11,420 S2: disappointing for me. Not that we've only got to replace 972 00:43:11,420 --> 00:43:13,660 S2: him for 20 because he only played 20 last week. 973 00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:15,770 S2: He should be playing more than 20 already because I 974 00:43:15,770 --> 00:43:17,570 S2: thought he was really impressive on the weekend. 975 00:43:18,540 --> 00:43:20,400 S6: Uh, tackling some of the outside backs. 976 00:43:20,969 --> 00:43:24,250 S1: Much talked about outside backs in Dayne Lawrie and I 977 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,089 S1: thought Lawrie had some good touches on the weekend. Obviously 978 00:43:27,300 --> 00:43:29,910 S1: there was an unacceptable moment where he did not contest 979 00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:32,460 S1: the bomb. That just that just can't happen in first grade. 980 00:43:32,460 --> 00:43:35,969 S1: And usually he's usually I'll think he's a fairly courageous player. 981 00:43:35,969 --> 00:43:37,200 S1: So I don't know if that was just he thought 982 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,330 S1: someone else was going to catch it, but that was. 983 00:43:39,330 --> 00:43:40,380 S8: Not a good look. But. 984 00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:43,290 S1: Um, not for him is the one I'm concerned about. 985 00:43:43,290 --> 00:43:44,040 S1: I just feel. 986 00:43:44,340 --> 00:43:45,210 S6: I know he's not that. 987 00:43:45,210 --> 00:43:48,779 S1: Old, but sometimes, you see, reminds me a bit of, 988 00:43:48,780 --> 00:43:51,299 S1: you know, like a Jason Nightingale or Josh Mansoor. And 989 00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:53,790 S1: winners get old quickly or they start to lose a 990 00:43:53,790 --> 00:43:55,890 S1: little bit of their burst or power. I know he's 991 00:43:55,890 --> 00:43:57,420 S1: never been a speedster, but. 992 00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:58,680 S8: I don't know. 993 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,469 S1: I just think he may not see out the season 994 00:44:01,469 --> 00:44:03,150 S1: and I don't wish that upon him. I hope he 995 00:44:03,150 --> 00:44:04,439 S1: has a good season, but. 996 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:05,100 S8: I'm just. 997 00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:05,910 S1: Concerned a bit. 998 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:06,450 S6: Yeah, I. 999 00:44:06,450 --> 00:44:08,430 S4: Think that looking at him from the. 1000 00:44:08,969 --> 00:44:11,370 S3: Second trial in this game, he just looks to take 1001 00:44:11,370 --> 00:44:12,870 S3: the easy way out in. 1002 00:44:12,870 --> 00:44:15,390 S4: Terms of head ups. So what I mean by that 1003 00:44:15,390 --> 00:44:16,109 S4: is you never just. 1004 00:44:16,110 --> 00:44:18,509 S3: Run the ball straight if there's nothing on and just 1005 00:44:18,510 --> 00:44:21,630 S3: take the contact. You always try and run sideways and 1006 00:44:21,630 --> 00:44:24,180 S3: kind of avoid it and, you know, try and break 1007 00:44:24,180 --> 00:44:27,180 S3: the line. And as you said before, he's not really 1008 00:44:27,390 --> 00:44:29,850 S3: that athletic where he can kind of make things pay 1009 00:44:29,850 --> 00:44:33,029 S3: that way. And it just looks like he's avoiding getting smashed. 1010 00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:35,190 S3: And sometimes you just need to get smashed. 1011 00:44:35,190 --> 00:44:36,540 S4: Especially when you're a winger. 1012 00:44:36,540 --> 00:44:38,219 S3: And you're starting to set off and the team is 1013 00:44:38,219 --> 00:44:41,760 S3: already there ready to jump at you. It's just unavoidable. 1014 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,010 S3: And I think he really struggles with that part in 1015 00:44:44,010 --> 00:44:45,810 S3: his game and agree with you. I think I'd be 1016 00:44:45,810 --> 00:44:49,410 S3: surprised to see if he was still the starting winger 1017 00:44:49,410 --> 00:44:50,680 S3: towards the end of the season. 1018 00:44:50,730 --> 00:44:52,770 S6: Gary, do you think, um, I mean, Laurie's. 1019 00:44:52,770 --> 00:44:54,810 S1: Unsigned at the end of the year and offers obviously 1020 00:44:54,810 --> 00:44:57,359 S1: probably still got two years to go but think they're 1021 00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,280 S1: two guys to just to keep an eye on. 1022 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:05,040 S2: 100% I stand up and stick up for Laurie quite 1023 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,460 S2: a bit on this show, but I thought those two 1024 00:45:08,460 --> 00:45:11,549 S2: bombs sorry, those two bombs that he kind of let 1025 00:45:11,550 --> 00:45:14,490 S2: bounce were big errors that we can't have. He let 1026 00:45:14,489 --> 00:45:18,270 S2: the one that led to the McIntyre try he didn't 1027 00:45:18,510 --> 00:45:20,219 S2: contest that. There was another one a couple of minutes 1028 00:45:20,219 --> 00:45:23,580 S2: later that landed about 20m out from our tryline that 1029 00:45:23,580 --> 00:45:27,690 S2: he didn't he didn't contest as well. And this isn't 1030 00:45:27,690 --> 00:45:30,299 S2: the first time that's happened. That's a trait in his 1031 00:45:30,300 --> 00:45:33,090 S2: game and it's something he really needs to work on. 1032 00:45:33,090 --> 00:45:35,490 S2: I think the real big thing that stands out for 1033 00:45:35,489 --> 00:45:38,670 S2: me with Norfolk though, is still attitude. There was a 1034 00:45:38,820 --> 00:45:42,210 S2: there was a time early in that second half where 1035 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,660 S2: where the Titans dropped the ball and he celebrated. He 1036 00:45:45,660 --> 00:45:48,359 S2: danced around and and carried on like a little bit 1037 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,370 S2: of a goose, only for it to be overturned on 1038 00:45:50,370 --> 00:45:53,730 S2: a captain's challenge. And I think those attitude things that 1039 00:45:53,730 --> 00:45:56,009 S2: we've kind of all seen over the last couple of 1040 00:45:56,010 --> 00:45:58,140 S2: years are still there. And and I think for him, 1041 00:45:58,140 --> 00:46:01,860 S2: that really needs improvement. And if I was picking the side, 1042 00:46:01,860 --> 00:46:04,920 S2: I'd be going for Charlie Staines and Junior Tupou as 1043 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,800 S2: our wingers. I think that would be a much better, 1044 00:46:08,190 --> 00:46:11,040 S2: better wing combination than what kind of what we're showing now. 1045 00:46:12,090 --> 00:46:13,920 S6: Wait and see. Our Jackson Hastings boys, he's. 1046 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,840 S1: Obviously halfback of the Knights this week. 1047 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,190 S6: Declan, uh, should. 1048 00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:19,890 S1: The faithful be booing him out there this week? 1049 00:46:21,050 --> 00:46:25,069 S4: Um, not because these are not because of any particular reason. 1050 00:46:25,070 --> 00:46:26,299 S4: But that's what you do, isn't it? 1051 00:46:26,310 --> 00:46:27,980 S3: You do the opposition team. 1052 00:46:27,980 --> 00:46:30,799 S4: So, you know, I don't think there's anything malicious in. 1053 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,960 S3: It or anything. You know, he, he tried his. 1054 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:33,710 S4: Best. 1055 00:46:33,710 --> 00:46:37,669 S3: For us. He was a good spokesperson. You know, he 1056 00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:40,280 S3: he had the club's best attention at heart, which I 1057 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,710 S3: thought was really important. But, you know, a live part 1058 00:46:44,150 --> 00:46:45,919 S3: opposite teams get booed and don't think it's. 1059 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:47,779 S4: Personal or anything. 1060 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,870 S6: I think you'll get a few extra little boos. 1061 00:46:50,870 --> 00:46:53,750 S1: Not that he sort of ditched us. Gary was more we. 1062 00:46:53,750 --> 00:46:55,100 S6: Sort of ditched him. But. 1063 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,350 S1: You know, bottom line, you fair game, once you run 1064 00:46:57,350 --> 00:46:58,520 S1: out opposition colours. 1065 00:46:59,510 --> 00:47:02,029 S2: It'll be an interesting one I actually think. Yeah, he 1066 00:47:02,030 --> 00:47:03,770 S2: may get some boos, but I think you'll get some 1067 00:47:03,770 --> 00:47:06,500 S2: applause when his name's read out as well. I don't think. 1068 00:47:06,500 --> 00:47:06,770 S6: So. 1069 00:47:07,489 --> 00:47:07,879 S2: Won't be. 1070 00:47:08,510 --> 00:47:10,399 S1: Why would you applaud a Newcastle player in the warm 1071 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,180 S1: up to the game? 1072 00:47:11,210 --> 00:47:12,890 S2: I won't, but there's a lot of people who are 1073 00:47:12,890 --> 00:47:16,250 S2: very disappointed when he moved on, so I think there 1074 00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:19,580 S2: will be a little bit of that reaction of giving 1075 00:47:19,580 --> 00:47:21,500 S2: him a cheer because we shouldn't have let him go. 1076 00:47:21,500 --> 00:47:25,940 S2: Now I won't be doing that, but I do think 1077 00:47:25,940 --> 00:47:27,799 S2: you'll hear it on Sunday. And if I do hear 1078 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,080 S2: it on Sunday, there'll be a quick fire message off 1079 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:30,739 S2: to you, Eddie. 1080 00:47:31,460 --> 00:47:33,890 S8: But I can leave before kick off, Gary. 1081 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:34,940 S1: That's my opinion. 1082 00:47:35,330 --> 00:47:37,819 S2: Yep. I won't be cheering him on. I won't be 1083 00:47:37,820 --> 00:47:41,390 S2: boo anymore. I'm not a big bore of anyone, but 1084 00:47:41,390 --> 00:47:43,489 S2: I won't be supporting him. I hope he has a 1085 00:47:43,489 --> 00:47:45,770 S2: terrible game. I hope. Hope he drops the ball about 1086 00:47:45,770 --> 00:47:48,700 S2: 15 times and get smashed. It wasn't great athlete. 1087 00:47:48,980 --> 00:47:50,120 S6: He looks low last. 1088 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,450 S1: You know, the big debate over the off season is 1089 00:47:53,450 --> 00:47:56,570 S1: Shane's like pace in the halves and you know I'm 1090 00:47:56,570 --> 00:47:58,790 S1: probably talking up that will have a blinder this week 1091 00:47:58,790 --> 00:48:01,040 S1: but he did look pretty ordinary I thought last week. 1092 00:48:01,340 --> 00:48:03,440 S2: I think if he plays the majority of the games 1093 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,489 S2: the way he played last week, he probably proves the decision. Right. 1094 00:48:07,489 --> 00:48:11,090 S2: So he needs a big game for Newcastle. He needs 1095 00:48:11,090 --> 00:48:13,190 S2: a big year for Newcastle. I thought they were really 1096 00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:16,040 S2: poor last week. This is a side we should beat 1097 00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,610 S2: this weekend. Um. Hunger always scares me because he's the 1098 00:48:19,610 --> 00:48:22,190 S2: type of player who could set up a couple of 1099 00:48:22,190 --> 00:48:24,530 S2: tries or score a couple of tries against us. Quite easy. 1100 00:48:24,530 --> 00:48:27,259 S2: So he worries me. But this is a side we 1101 00:48:27,260 --> 00:48:30,080 S2: should beat this weekend. I really believe the Knights are 1102 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,080 S2: in the bottom couple of sides in the competition and 1103 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,210 S2: and I'll be very disappointed if we walk away with 1104 00:48:35,210 --> 00:48:36,080 S2: a loss this weekend. 1105 00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:38,690 S6: It's just I just think. 1106 00:48:38,690 --> 00:48:41,060 S1: It's a huge game in the halves. Declan. There's going 1107 00:48:41,060 --> 00:48:44,209 S1: to be storylines coming out of it for Brooks and Hastings. 1108 00:48:44,330 --> 00:48:46,790 S1: I really think it's it's not do or die in 1109 00:48:46,790 --> 00:48:47,840 S1: round two for the season. 1110 00:48:48,170 --> 00:48:49,700 S8: Don't get me wrong, but for the for the. 1111 00:48:49,700 --> 00:48:50,960 S1: Narrative of. 1112 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,279 S8: Um, you know, the decisions. 1113 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:53,240 S1: We made in the off season. 1114 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,100 S8: It's a big one for Brooks. 1115 00:48:55,850 --> 00:48:59,419 S4: Yeah. Especially Brooks because if he plays, if he plays 1116 00:48:59,420 --> 00:49:00,350 S4: really well. 1117 00:49:00,350 --> 00:49:02,180 S3: He squashes it, doesn't it? It kind of ends a 1118 00:49:02,180 --> 00:49:06,379 S3: debate like it over against Hastings if he plays really well. 1119 00:49:06,380 --> 00:49:08,660 S3: But if he doesn't and then Hastings does play well. 1120 00:49:08,660 --> 00:49:10,130 S3: And I feel kind of bad now because I think 1121 00:49:10,130 --> 00:49:12,980 S3: Gary's jinxed the Tigers because he's probably going to have 1122 00:49:12,980 --> 00:49:13,670 S3: a blinder. 1123 00:49:13,670 --> 00:49:16,620 S4: Now, which I'm a little bit worried about. But, you know, 1124 00:49:16,620 --> 00:49:17,390 S4: it's just that that's. 1125 00:49:17,390 --> 00:49:19,100 S3: The thing about Brooks is and we kind of talked 1126 00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:21,950 S3: about in the off season, there's really no excuses anymore, 1127 00:49:21,950 --> 00:49:25,239 S3: is there, Because the four pack played really well last week. 1128 00:49:25,250 --> 00:49:27,950 S3: If they replicate that, he should play well last week. 1129 00:49:27,980 --> 00:49:30,080 S3: The Knights aren't, you know, going to be a finals 1130 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:31,880 S3: team or if they do meet the fans, they're not 1131 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:34,600 S3: going to go very far after that. So, you know, 1132 00:49:34,610 --> 00:49:37,339 S3: it's a they should be winning this game. There's no 1133 00:49:37,340 --> 00:49:38,150 S3: doubt about it. 1134 00:49:38,540 --> 00:49:39,560 S8: Let's hope so, boys. 1135 00:49:39,950 --> 00:49:42,080 S1: Let's talk before we give our tips and. 1136 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,219 S6: Predictions, let's just. 1137 00:49:43,550 --> 00:49:47,150 S1: Go through the round very briefly and give a tip. Gary, 1138 00:49:47,150 --> 00:49:50,220 S1: you're you'll be at the Thursday night game, I assume, 1139 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,890 S1: Panthers at home to the Rabbitohs. 1140 00:49:52,130 --> 00:49:53,870 S2: Is that one that's on. Yeah. No I won't be 1141 00:49:53,870 --> 00:49:54,350 S2: at that. 1142 00:49:54,530 --> 00:49:57,049 S1: I think Souths will beat him. I think I know 1143 00:49:57,050 --> 00:49:59,750 S1: it's only too early to judge but I think, I 1144 00:49:59,750 --> 00:50:02,149 S1: think they're the most impressive team this year. Souths. I 1145 00:50:02,150 --> 00:50:03,710 S1: just think they've stable. 1146 00:50:04,219 --> 00:50:06,290 S2: Yeah. I think I tipped a couple of weeks ago 1147 00:50:06,290 --> 00:50:09,770 S2: that Souths will make the grand final. I think the 1148 00:50:09,770 --> 00:50:12,800 S2: Panthers have started the season really poorly thought. I think 1149 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,310 S2: I thought, oh, quite disappointing when they played Saint Helens 1150 00:50:16,310 --> 00:50:19,190 S2: and they they weren't great against Parramatta last week either 1151 00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:22,220 S2: and I think they're really missing happy. Um, so I 1152 00:50:22,219 --> 00:50:24,860 S2: think Souths will get them tomorrow night as well. 1153 00:50:25,219 --> 00:50:29,720 S1: Declan interesting game Friday. Ill sharks. Let's all back the sharks. 1154 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,790 S1: If Moses hasn't still resigned I think. 1155 00:50:32,630 --> 00:50:33,050 S8: Obviously. 1156 00:50:33,050 --> 00:50:34,310 S1: The sharks win by 20. 1157 00:50:34,830 --> 00:50:35,750 S4: I don't know. I just can't. 1158 00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:38,509 S3: See the Eels losing two games in a row like that. 1159 00:50:38,510 --> 00:50:42,110 S3: And although the sharks were pretty against the the bunnies, 1160 00:50:42,110 --> 00:50:45,110 S3: you could tell they were missing the class of Heinz, 1161 00:50:45,110 --> 00:50:47,150 S3: who's obviously still out. So I think I'm going to 1162 00:50:47,150 --> 00:50:48,530 S3: tap the Eels for this one. 1163 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,530 S6: Uh, it's a good game this week. 1164 00:50:51,530 --> 00:50:55,250 S1: The Broncos Cowboys Friday as well. Gary So it's three 1165 00:50:55,250 --> 00:50:58,489 S1: crackers to start the round. That's a really good game. 1166 00:50:58,550 --> 00:50:59,960 S1: Thought Broncos are super impressive. 1167 00:51:00,650 --> 00:51:02,660 S2: Yeah, they were. I hate to say it though. A 1168 00:51:02,660 --> 00:51:07,750 S2: lot better than I was kind of expecting. Um. I 1169 00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:09,880 S2: like the look of the Cowboys, and I think they'll 1170 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,170 S2: probably get away with this one. 1171 00:51:12,610 --> 00:51:14,350 S6: Dolphins. Not dolphins. 1172 00:51:14,350 --> 00:51:18,700 S1: Not yet. Roosters warriors Saturday. The clinics in in. 1173 00:51:18,700 --> 00:51:20,470 S8: Sydney, you'd expect some sort of reaction. 1174 00:51:20,469 --> 00:51:21,850 S1: From the Roosters, although they do. 1175 00:51:22,030 --> 00:51:22,509 S8: Look a fair. 1176 00:51:22,510 --> 00:51:23,830 S1: Bit off the pace last week. 1177 00:51:24,730 --> 00:51:25,870 S4: Yeah, but even off. 1178 00:51:25,870 --> 00:51:28,090 S3: The pace, it should be the Warriors. And they've gotten a. 1179 00:51:28,090 --> 00:51:28,930 S4: Little bit of flak in the. 1180 00:51:28,930 --> 00:51:31,479 S3: Media, so I'm expecting a bit of a bounce back 1181 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:32,080 S3: from them. 1182 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:35,830 S2: The really interesting thing last week is I get, though, 1183 00:51:35,830 --> 00:51:38,050 S2: playing the Dolphins, who were a new team and had 1184 00:51:38,050 --> 00:51:40,180 S2: a lot to play for, it was their first game. 1185 00:51:40,540 --> 00:51:42,910 S2: But some of that defense by the Roosters, it just 1186 00:51:42,910 --> 00:51:46,270 S2: disappeared at times. They went down the short side a 1187 00:51:46,270 --> 00:51:48,520 S2: couple of times and there was one defender to like 1188 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,149 S2: three Dolphins players coming at them and it was really roosters, 1189 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,750 S2: not like the roosters to kind of defend in that way. 1190 00:51:55,750 --> 00:51:57,940 S2: So I found that really interesting on the weekend. 1191 00:51:58,989 --> 00:52:00,279 S6: But like Benji Marshall's. 1192 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,589 S1: Brother, I reckon he's most improved player in the competition. 1193 00:52:02,590 --> 00:52:05,140 S8: Gary I used to thought he was ordinary, but he was, 1194 00:52:05,140 --> 00:52:05,750 S8: he was great. 1195 00:52:05,770 --> 00:52:09,220 S2: Sunday I was cheering last year when we announced Benji 1196 00:52:09,219 --> 00:52:11,860 S2: is Captain that he'd already signed for the Dolphins because 1197 00:52:12,340 --> 00:52:14,650 S2: I was really worried that he'd he would show up 1198 00:52:14,650 --> 00:52:17,410 S2: over here. But yeah, he was impressive last week. 1199 00:52:17,739 --> 00:52:19,420 S6: Dolphins can do it again. 1200 00:52:19,750 --> 00:52:22,090 S1: Declan They playing the Raiders at Redcliffe. 1201 00:52:22,570 --> 00:52:25,029 S8: What? Wayne Bennett What what a genius. He's a. 1202 00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:25,540 S6: Genius. 1203 00:52:26,890 --> 00:52:28,210 S4: I've tapped the Raiders. 1204 00:52:28,210 --> 00:52:28,840 S3: I think that. 1205 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,029 S4: It's all well and good to. 1206 00:52:31,030 --> 00:52:34,300 S3: Win one round one game, but then to do it again. 1207 00:52:34,300 --> 00:52:36,160 S4: Consistently think there's going to be a bit of a 1208 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,980 S4: struggle for them, even though we're in Ben as a genius, 1209 00:52:38,980 --> 00:52:41,770 S4: I can't deny that. But I think that the Raiders 1210 00:52:41,770 --> 00:52:44,500 S4: for me were, even though they lost to. 1211 00:52:44,500 --> 00:52:46,810 S3: The Cowboys, were still very impressive in terms of just 1212 00:52:46,810 --> 00:52:48,940 S3: being able to hang in there. So I think that 1213 00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:51,640 S3: will be a very, very grounded game. But about the 1214 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,860 S3: Raiders to win as anyone. 1215 00:52:53,860 --> 00:52:56,980 S2: Watch a Dolphins documentary, is it better than Tales from 1216 00:52:56,980 --> 00:52:57,640 S2: Tiger Town? 1217 00:52:58,060 --> 00:52:59,230 S4: I heard it's pretty good. 1218 00:52:59,820 --> 00:53:01,960 S8: You haven't seen it. Yeah. 1219 00:53:02,050 --> 00:53:05,170 S1: Mean it straight away Gary. It'll be, I suppose not 1220 00:53:05,170 --> 00:53:07,330 S1: as entertaining for the fans because they actually won a 1221 00:53:07,330 --> 00:53:09,430 S1: game I think Tails from targeting and we lost every 1222 00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:10,000 S1: game for. 1223 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:10,540 S6: Two years. 1224 00:53:10,540 --> 00:53:12,219 S2: So it might be a little less sweary. 1225 00:53:12,850 --> 00:53:14,259 S8: Yeah. So. 1226 00:53:14,590 --> 00:53:17,380 S1: Um, Declan, your side Sunday they take, they go to 1227 00:53:17,380 --> 00:53:20,649 S1: Melbourne Bulldogs, Melbourne. You'll be tipping the Bulldogs. 1228 00:53:21,250 --> 00:53:22,690 S4: And no I will not be. 1229 00:53:22,690 --> 00:53:25,450 S3: Tipping the Bulldogs. Think they've got a few things to 1230 00:53:25,450 --> 00:53:28,680 S3: work on. I think my best mate, Cameron Cerrado, you 1231 00:53:28,690 --> 00:53:29,140 S3: know he's done. 1232 00:53:29,150 --> 00:53:30,580 S4: The coaching room look drawn out the. 1233 00:53:30,580 --> 00:53:32,860 S3: Players. The attack looked pretty ordinary. I think. 1234 00:53:32,860 --> 00:53:36,550 S4: Defense was pretty good and the up till the. 1235 00:53:36,550 --> 00:53:38,589 S3: First half and then they kind of lost it. But 1236 00:53:38,590 --> 00:53:42,070 S3: I think offensively I think that's the biggest worry for 1237 00:53:42,070 --> 00:53:44,799 S3: them because they're very left side dominant with Barton and Peyton, 1238 00:53:44,830 --> 00:53:47,500 S3: that puts a lot of pressure on them, hence why 1239 00:53:47,500 --> 00:53:50,890 S3: he didn't really play well on the weekend because everyone 1240 00:53:50,890 --> 00:53:52,620 S3: knew where the ball was going to. Then they. 1241 00:53:53,170 --> 00:53:56,350 S8: Yeah, I think our storm morals in that game for me. 1242 00:53:56,710 --> 00:53:59,380 S1: Dragons titans that's an interesting game Gary because dragons have 1243 00:53:59,380 --> 00:54:01,569 S1: been the whipping boys in the off season but they 1244 00:54:01,570 --> 00:54:04,390 S1: start this game as favorites at home, which I found 1245 00:54:04,390 --> 00:54:05,470 S1: a bit surprising. 1246 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,130 S2: Yeah, I think the Titans will get them. I, I 1247 00:54:09,130 --> 00:54:13,170 S2: actually think the Dragons will probably run last and I 1248 00:54:13,180 --> 00:54:15,010 S2: think they will probably show that this weekend. 1249 00:54:15,820 --> 00:54:19,030 S6: All right boys out game it's 4:00 Sunday like they will. 1250 00:54:19,690 --> 00:54:20,020 S1: Um. 1251 00:54:21,420 --> 00:54:22,470 S6: I got to be honest, I've got. 1252 00:54:22,469 --> 00:54:25,830 S1: No idea what to expect. Again, like I said last week, 1253 00:54:25,830 --> 00:54:28,620 S1: that tipped us to win 2826. So I'm going to 1254 00:54:28,620 --> 00:54:30,660 S1: stick with that scoreline this week that we're going to 1255 00:54:30,660 --> 00:54:33,870 S1: win 2826 and I don't care. Declan Like if we 1256 00:54:33,870 --> 00:54:37,320 S1: make 75 errors and win, I'd take that over a 1257 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,000 S1: good performance and a loss. We've just got to find 1258 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,760 S1: a way to win so that the negativity doesn't set 1259 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,279 S1: in early, especially against. I agree with Gary. 1260 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:44,880 S8: I think this is a. 1261 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,450 S1: Poor Newcastle side, but you know, on paper they've probably 1262 00:54:48,450 --> 00:54:51,330 S1: got pretty close to the same talent we do. 1263 00:54:52,500 --> 00:54:55,469 S4: I'll say that we definitely have a better forward pack. 1264 00:54:55,469 --> 00:54:58,140 S3: Obviously Kalyn Ponga is probably the best player on the field. 1265 00:54:59,070 --> 00:54:59,730 S3: You know, I think that's a. 1266 00:54:59,730 --> 00:55:02,189 S4: Pretty fair summation of what's. 1267 00:55:02,190 --> 00:55:03,950 S3: Happening. But I think for Black. 1268 00:55:04,140 --> 00:55:05,359 S4: A four pack is definitely. 1269 00:55:05,370 --> 00:55:09,779 S3: Much more dynamic and explosive than theirs. So and obviously 1270 00:55:09,780 --> 00:55:12,029 S3: their been, you know, it had even less time to 1271 00:55:12,030 --> 00:55:14,670 S3: prepare than ours have because Lochie Miller just got there 1272 00:55:14,670 --> 00:55:16,950 S3: as well. Caleb Hong is still new to the position. 1273 00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:18,540 S3: So yeah, I think we should. 1274 00:55:18,540 --> 00:55:20,100 S4: Win and can't really. 1275 00:55:20,100 --> 00:55:23,130 S3: See the night scoring a ton of points. If they 1276 00:55:23,130 --> 00:55:24,509 S3: were to win, I think it'd be a bit of 1277 00:55:24,510 --> 00:55:27,330 S3: a grinding game. So I'm going to go 20 points 1278 00:55:27,330 --> 00:55:30,240 S3: to eight for us and David Klemmer to be Man 1279 00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:30,960 S3: of the Match. 1280 00:55:31,890 --> 00:55:32,790 S8: Yeah, he'll be up for a big one. 1281 00:55:32,790 --> 00:55:35,490 S1: Gary, what's your crystal ball saying? 1282 00:55:36,430 --> 00:55:38,920 S2: Uh, as I said earlier, I think we should get them. 1283 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,950 S2: What I really want to see is, is is to 1284 00:55:41,950 --> 00:55:44,740 S2: establish that that dominance through the middle of the ruck 1285 00:55:44,860 --> 00:55:46,840 S2: quite early in the game and have our forwards going 1286 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,000 S2: forward before we start to spread it a bit wider. 1287 00:55:49,150 --> 00:55:51,130 S2: I think if we do that it will be far 1288 00:55:51,130 --> 00:55:55,480 S2: too good for, for Newcastle. And um, yeah, I'll agree 1289 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,029 S2: with Declan. I'm about 20 to 8. I think that's 1290 00:55:58,030 --> 00:56:01,359 S2: a pretty good prediction. So, um, but we do have 1291 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,029 S2: to establish the dominance in the middle of the field. 1292 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,879 S8: All right, Let's hope we're right, boys. We've all tipped 1293 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:07,570 S8: the Tigers. 1294 00:56:07,570 --> 00:56:10,060 S1: Um, yards quiz to finish with fellas. 1295 00:56:10,060 --> 00:56:13,390 S6: I'm just scrolling through it now. Um, good luck with all. 1296 00:56:13,420 --> 00:56:14,920 S2: Have you changed any questions yet? 1297 00:56:15,489 --> 00:56:19,299 S8: I've left one out because we've decided. Make an executive. 1298 00:56:19,300 --> 00:56:20,710 S1: Decision to leave one out of them. 1299 00:56:21,270 --> 00:56:22,810 S8: Um, but let's go. 1300 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,690 S1: All right. It's buzzing with your name. Who was the 1301 00:56:25,690 --> 00:56:30,790 S1: only West Tigers player to kick the goal for the 1302 00:56:30,790 --> 00:56:33,580 S1: club while starting As in the forward pack? 1303 00:56:34,700 --> 00:56:35,390 S6: Interesting one. 1304 00:56:35,989 --> 00:56:38,660 S1: I will say that I remember being at a game 1305 00:56:38,660 --> 00:56:42,700 S1: in 2003 when Scandal had a shot at goal and missed. 1306 00:56:42,710 --> 00:56:43,640 S1: So it's not him. 1307 00:56:44,180 --> 00:56:46,610 S4: Do we have a clue as to what year it was? 1308 00:56:46,850 --> 00:56:48,440 S8: It was 2014. 1309 00:56:49,290 --> 00:56:51,560 S4: Um. Declan, was it? 1310 00:56:54,300 --> 00:56:56,730 S8: No, that was a good guess, though. 1311 00:56:57,090 --> 00:56:59,790 S2: That was a very good guess. Yeah. Uh. 1312 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,790 S1: I'll give you another clue. He's not currently playing in Australia. 1313 00:57:03,810 --> 00:57:04,770 S1: He's still playing the. 1314 00:57:06,530 --> 00:57:08,900 S8: And famous surname. 1315 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,549 S2: Declan. Gary. Gary. 1316 00:57:12,030 --> 00:57:12,960 S8: Declan got in first. 1317 00:57:13,350 --> 00:57:14,190 S4: Was it Saarinen? 1318 00:57:14,430 --> 00:57:14,839 S2: Yeah. 1319 00:57:15,690 --> 00:57:16,180 S6: I can't say I. 1320 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,460 S8: Remember that goal, but. 1321 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,310 S1: There you go. He was the only forward. 1322 00:57:20,310 --> 00:57:20,820 S8: To kick. 1323 00:57:20,820 --> 00:57:21,090 S1: Off. 1324 00:57:22,170 --> 00:57:23,280 S8: This question. 1325 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,960 S1: Which past West Tigers player has the lowest amount of 1326 00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:32,700 S1: letters in their first and last name Combine? First and 1327 00:57:32,700 --> 00:57:35,400 S1: last name. Smallest amount of letters. 1328 00:57:36,540 --> 00:57:36,690 S8: In. 1329 00:57:36,690 --> 00:57:37,140 S1: Total. 1330 00:57:37,710 --> 00:57:43,410 S4: This is too late for this. It was not utai. 1331 00:57:44,130 --> 00:57:45,090 S6: That's not bad. 1332 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,669 S1: That's seven. I'll give you a clue. His first name 1333 00:57:47,670 --> 00:57:52,250 S1: is Ben. Three letters in the first name. Obviously three 1334 00:57:52,250 --> 00:57:56,090 S1: letters in the last name played around that 20 Yo. 1335 00:57:56,630 --> 00:57:57,580 S2: Gary Bento. 1336 00:57:58,190 --> 00:57:58,690 S6: Bento. 1337 00:57:59,180 --> 00:58:05,580 S1: So that's one all, uh, Premiership winning centre. Shane Elford uh, 1338 00:58:05,630 --> 00:58:09,620 S1: one are released to stay with us in the 2006 season, 1339 00:58:10,250 --> 00:58:15,140 S1: but apparently sacrifice 190,000 in doing so. Which NRL club 1340 00:58:15,140 --> 00:58:17,120 S1: was he to join? 1341 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:18,410 S6: Gary Was it South. 1342 00:58:18,410 --> 00:58:18,860 S2: Sydney. 1343 00:58:19,340 --> 00:58:23,300 S8: Was Rabbitohs two one to Gary. 1344 00:58:24,290 --> 00:58:25,160 S6: The great Daniel Craig. 1345 00:58:25,230 --> 00:58:25,730 S2: Tonight. 1346 00:58:27,100 --> 00:58:32,170 S8: Well, so far. I'm going to bet on keeping up. 1347 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:38,530 S1: Daniel Henry debuted for the club in 2002, left after 3007. 1348 00:58:39,450 --> 00:58:45,390 S1: Returned in 2010 to finish. Which season did he first wear? 1349 00:58:45,390 --> 00:58:48,510 S1: The number two wingers jersey think Shane's put him in 1350 00:58:48,510 --> 00:58:52,170 S1: about 400 different numbers. Which season The first where the 1351 00:58:52,170 --> 00:58:54,150 S1: number two Jerry. 1352 00:58:55,410 --> 00:58:56,670 S2: 2005. 1353 00:58:57,850 --> 00:59:01,270 S1: Spot on, Gary. That was probably his best season. I 1354 00:59:01,270 --> 00:59:03,220 S1: think Shane's kept him on the wing for the majority 1355 00:59:03,220 --> 00:59:07,810 S1: of the season. All right. This one name all the 1356 00:59:07,810 --> 00:59:12,910 S1: West Tigers players whose name contained John first, all last. 1357 00:59:12,910 --> 00:59:15,120 S1: There's no one that I can see on this list 1358 00:59:15,130 --> 00:59:15,520 S1: or there's. 1359 00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,890 S8: One there's one sort of curveball. 1360 00:59:17,980 --> 00:59:22,030 S1: There were seven. John's with the starting first name Declan. 1361 00:59:22,030 --> 00:59:24,010 S1: Come on, you name at least one for me, John. 1362 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:29,990 S4: So John Morris got John scandalous. Um. 1363 00:59:30,350 --> 00:59:31,340 S2: John Simon. 1364 00:59:31,910 --> 00:59:33,770 S8: Yeah, that's pretty good, boys. That's three. 1365 00:59:33,770 --> 00:59:35,540 S1: There's one in the current squad who we just spoke 1366 00:59:35,540 --> 00:59:36,650 S1: about being on the beach. 1367 00:59:37,370 --> 00:59:41,810 S4: Oh, John Bateman. Well, guy. Who is that? John Bateman. 1368 00:59:42,740 --> 00:59:43,100 S9: Well. 1369 00:59:43,820 --> 00:59:45,440 S2: He called us over me, so I didn't get it 1370 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:46,070 S2: all out. 1371 00:59:46,670 --> 00:59:49,130 S1: A couple one from the initial team. 2000. 1372 00:59:50,100 --> 00:59:51,540 S2: On the way. John Wilson. 1373 00:59:52,260 --> 00:59:53,610 S8: Well, yeah, that's another one. 1374 00:59:55,540 --> 00:59:55,810 S6: John. 1375 00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,550 S1: John Carlo. And then the curveball is thrown in is 1376 01:00:00,550 --> 01:00:01,600 S1: Jack Littlejohn. 1377 01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:03,340 S10: Actually. 1378 01:00:04,270 --> 01:00:08,500 S2: I actually think he may have asked Joel that question 1379 01:00:08,500 --> 01:00:11,230 S2: when we were sitting at Lidcombe Oval. So I think 1380 01:00:11,230 --> 01:00:13,210 S2: I'd heard the little John answer before. 1381 01:00:14,430 --> 01:00:15,480 S8: All right, boys, let's. 1382 01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:16,200 S1: Do this last. 1383 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:17,820 S6: One. It's a long one. 1384 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:23,850 S1: Round 17 in 2000, West Tigers played Canberra in the snow. 1385 01:00:23,910 --> 01:00:26,070 S1: Declan might remember that because he probably wasn't alive. 1386 01:00:26,070 --> 01:00:27,450 S8: But I certainly remember it. 1387 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,770 S1: Um, first and only NRL match to be played in 1388 01:00:31,770 --> 01:00:36,780 S1: the snow still. We lost 2422 at the end of 1389 01:00:36,780 --> 01:00:40,950 S1: the game. Broncos were first on 24 points with a 1390 01:00:40,950 --> 01:00:49,720 S1: plus 156 differential storm were third. With a plus 159 differential. 1391 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:53,290 S1: We were still second. What was our differential? 1392 01:00:54,370 --> 01:00:55,210 S5: That's a tough one. 1393 01:00:56,380 --> 01:00:58,000 S2: What were the what were the other two? 1394 01:00:58,810 --> 01:00:59,890 S6: Well, Bridge, would you know. 1395 01:00:59,890 --> 01:01:01,320 S1: If you're at the top of the table Brisbane or 1396 01:01:01,330 --> 01:01:06,730 S1: plus 159 Melbourne were third plus 156 Tigers were second. 1397 01:01:06,730 --> 01:01:07,870 S1: What was their differential up to? 1398 01:01:07,870 --> 01:01:08,590 S8: 17 rounds? 1399 01:01:09,190 --> 01:01:10,240 S2: 157. 1400 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:11,490 S5: Declan. 1401 01:01:12,270 --> 01:01:13,110 S4: I have no idea. 1402 01:01:13,290 --> 01:01:14,160 S2: 158. 1403 01:01:14,810 --> 01:01:16,410 S1: I don't care if you've got no idea. Declan you 1404 01:01:16,410 --> 01:01:17,910 S1: got to have a guess. It's nearest to the pen. 1405 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,030 S3: All right. One 159. 1406 01:01:21,510 --> 01:01:25,650 S8: Yeah, that was very close, boys. It was -30, so. 1407 01:01:25,890 --> 01:01:26,520 S8: I think. 1408 01:01:27,150 --> 01:01:29,070 S2: So. I thought we're on the same amount of points. 1409 01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:31,680 S2: Obviously we were. Yeah. Thanks, Geordie. 1410 01:01:32,170 --> 01:01:34,680 S1: Don't you remember? I would have. I wouldn't have nailed it. 1411 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,430 S1: But just remember that 2000 season, I think we won 1412 01:01:38,430 --> 01:01:40,230 S1: like seven of our first nine, and a lot of 1413 01:01:40,230 --> 01:01:43,500 S1: them were just really tight games. And the ones we lost, 1414 01:01:43,500 --> 01:01:44,280 S1: we got blown out. 1415 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:49,920 S2: We're running Second Life up until about round 15. 16, yeah, 1416 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,590 S2: 19 or something. And then we had that Penrith game 1417 01:01:52,590 --> 01:01:56,940 S2: where we were winning by like 20 and they go 1418 01:01:56,940 --> 01:01:57,840 S2: back and beat us. 1419 01:01:58,230 --> 01:01:59,550 S8: 31 eight and we got beat. 1420 01:01:59,550 --> 01:02:03,150 S1: 3231 All right, boys, it's been a long good show. 1421 01:02:03,390 --> 01:02:06,360 S1: I'll might see you at like Sunday because I'll be there. Gary, 1422 01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,670 S1: are you going to be in your, like, double seats 1423 01:02:08,670 --> 01:02:10,170 S1: or you're roaming Gary now? 1424 01:02:10,620 --> 01:02:11,729 S11: No, I'll be in my seat. 1425 01:02:11,730 --> 01:02:15,750 S2: So Johnny sits behind me now, so I'll definitely be 1426 01:02:15,750 --> 01:02:16,500 S2: in my seats. 1427 01:02:16,860 --> 01:02:18,810 S8: I don't have a seat at like that, so I'm 1428 01:02:18,810 --> 01:02:21,120 S8: just going to be wherever I can fit in. I'm 1429 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:21,720 S8: just going to see it. 1430 01:02:22,140 --> 01:02:24,150 S2: Right? You don't even have a seat. You can share. 1431 01:02:25,710 --> 01:02:26,310 S12: I'm up for that. 1432 01:02:26,580 --> 01:02:27,570 S6: Declan, where will you be? 1433 01:02:28,380 --> 01:02:31,470 S4: I'll be up in the grandstand, as per usual. 1434 01:02:31,770 --> 01:02:33,060 S8: Up in the grandstand. Oh, my boys. 1435 01:02:33,060 --> 01:02:35,520 S1: Enjoy Sunday. Speak to me this week. 1436 01:02:36,270 --> 01:02:36,960 S2: Thanks, boys. 1437 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:43,540 UU: Thank you. Straight to the top. Can't the guts got 1438 01:02:43,690 --> 01:02:50,350 UU: the glory? Whether this. We're not gonna stop just the 1439 01:02:50,350 --> 01:02:56,470 UU: team with a will to. Of weather. Yes, I guess 1440 01:02:56,470 --> 01:03:00,920 UU: it's the thrill of the. Rising up to the challenge of. 1441 01:03:06,900 --> 01:03:16,390 UU: And the watching us in the behind. Where it's. I guess. 1442 01:03:17,650 --> 01:03:28,770 UU: I guess. I guess. West Tigers. Let's go.