1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: The kids messed up and confessed. Kids. Let me say 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: this kid, that's what they'r kid know. It's not to 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: lie or when they when they lie, Wait a minute, 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: it's to be in a in a in a hot 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: situation like that in the police station, sitting in the 6 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: room you ain't never set in and let's listen. Just 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: row motherfucker's tell you what you did, how you did 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: it for hours hours. Man, that's that's that's the same 9 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: mental torture. You ain't been on that side. You gotta 10 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: buil on that side to understand that type of ship. Okay. 11 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: But but then two days later my parents come on, 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: I get some attorneys or whatever. When I get some 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: attorneys now, but say we like fourteen years old, the 14 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: police couldn't work with me unless my mama was in there. 15 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: I stayed in Lost Madrinas. I don't know. I know 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: that mother. I'm fifty some years old, and I know 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: Lost Virginia's addressed by heart. Seventy two eighty five, Queil 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: drive down the calipoint. I know it by heart. Every 19 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: time I messed up and winning there that that's where 20 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: they sent me, just because man, they gotta wait a minute, 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: you knew that, because that if you don't know, then 22 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: you're still going. Well, you just said one of them 23 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: is a little slower. But the way they signed the system, man, 24 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: and the way some of these police get down reds 25 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: is wrong. And then they sent him people to jail 26 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,199 Speaker 1: for nothing. It's a lot of people getting down to jail. 27 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: But but that wasn't and that's a minute. Shouldn't it 28 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: also be a good thing? On the flip side, if 29 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: y'all wrongly convicted me, shouldn't I be paid for doing they? 30 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: I mean, like one of like, shouldn't you can't pay 31 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: me no amount of money for the time that I 32 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: had to do and what I had to go through 33 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: being in Riker's Island and all of that. He says, 34 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: no money, But yeah, they up, but all of that 35 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: they went through, shouldn't shouldn't they have to face the 36 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: same ship. I mean, I'm creating and lying and falsifying 37 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: it from make you should go to But if I'm 38 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 1: sitting here and I'm doing what I think it's my job, 39 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: by keep badgering woo woo woo woo, Badgrien James badgerom 40 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: and then you finally go and Okay, that's just like, 41 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: is it rape if I'm trying to get some pussy 42 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: from this chick and she couldn't tell me no, no, no, no, 43 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: no no, and I keep it. Come over, Come on, baby, 44 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: come on baby. I don't think the woman was This 45 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: was early late nineties and the victim, her name is 46 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 1: Tricia Mellie Maine. Did they get a lineup on these kids? 47 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: And she said, that's all up, that's the I don't 48 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the way it went down because 49 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: she was beating they Donald Trumping all day and they 50 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: were putting out ship Donald Trump is involved. Donald Trump 51 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: back back in the day when on television and said, 52 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: whoever did this? Our animals did an add on it. 53 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: But my point is the prosecutor that's why she getting 54 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: kept in so much till she pretty much told go 55 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: through Harlem or or one of those areas and pick 56 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: up everybody body, all black. They mean, this was a 57 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: high profile thing, and they were exactly and they were 58 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: just satisfied with arresting someone, not just arresting who was 59 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: really guilty of it. And that's the code thing about 60 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: being if you know they're not guilty, but you you 61 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: fight hard to send. But eventually, if if they wouldn't enough, 62 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: and I understand what you're saying about the age and 63 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: the peer pressure stuff, but if they wouldn't have eventually 64 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: unfortunately UH copped out to it, then they would have 65 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: never been convicted. Now I would take that if this 66 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: was nineteen and up five year old cats. But we're 67 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: talking about fourteen year old young men. One sixteen child, 68 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: Tomas an adult. Now I'm just think going to rikers 69 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: out in at sixteen, you pretty much pussy. You don't 70 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: ruin my life, this lady. Those police officers ruined them kids, 71 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: absolutely took their life, ruined them, and then they polices 72 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: or something. I can see if they created I'm one 73 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: of those. One of the things that they did was 74 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: they wrote statements and made them sign it to that's 75 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: not fair. I gotta watch this. I don't watch the show, 76 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: read up on it because documentary. I mean, I didn't 77 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: watch them, and I think I'll see it from us all. 78 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: I mean, they can continue this one because I really 79 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: want to see you, I mean, Lord and mercy man, 80 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: because every guy that ever went to jail, know, every 81 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: guy that's been s in that room back in the day, 82 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: is when they used to give you a cigarette. You 83 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: want some coffee, you want some chips. And then right 84 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: after that, if you ain't talking, you got your ass 85 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: whopped in there. You got your ass whipped in there. 86 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: And they can do it how they want to do it, 87 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: because motherfucker's like us, don't know the long and they 88 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: ain't gonna talk and ain't gonna say ship. You only 89 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: got that maybe pent of officers that coming there. That's right, 90 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: like your dad that come in there and say, I 91 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: know you're sucked up. Just to men, you funked up. 92 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: Let's get it over with. Don't come in there with 93 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: no bullshit. If you didn't do it, don't come to it. 94 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: Goddamn thing you didn't do. That's how Ready you said. 95 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: And he walked out. You don't see Reggie, no motherfucking more. 96 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: You'll be playing. Call your call Redge when you was jailer, 97 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: called Redge, Tell Edge you want to talk to him. No, 98 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: I didn't told you what I had to tell you, 99 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: and that's it. Unfortunately, this is the bad thing and 100 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: stuff because everybody's always holler we wanna talk to Ready, 101 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: we wanna talk to Reggy, we wanna talk to Ready, 102 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: And no, assholes and and you know, so we had 103 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: problems to Oh he got arrested for me lesson and 104 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: his daughter yesterday. He ain't no comp no more. You know, 105 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: we have to go through ship like that. Mother's cos 106 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: do that. But I never went through that. Yeah, they 107 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: say stupid ship like that, you know, to try to 108 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think everybody if you hold 109 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: civilians accountable for crimes, for murder or whatever, just because 110 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: I have a badge and I killed somebody, now I'm 111 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm I should be a civilian. You should go to 112 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: jail for this ship if you I agree with you. Women, 113 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: let me clear it up. But I don't want to 114 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: come across that. If that's how the situation went down, 115 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: I totally agree with y'all. It's just if if if 116 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm pressing you and doing my job because I'm seeing 117 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: this victim, this lady, that then all of this, this 118 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: this doesn't happened to and I'm picturing her as my sister, 119 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: my mother and all of that, I'm gonna do everything 120 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: in my power to try. Who gets you to turn 121 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: I watched? Does that means? That means you have to 122 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: assume that the people in this room are guilty. You 123 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: gotta assume they're guilty in my mind that you should 124 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: try to find out. The goal is to find out 125 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: if they're guilty. But the way that the interrogation seems 126 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: to have one office Day already assumed right off the 127 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: bat that these four black boys and then one Puerto 128 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: Rican kid were guilty from the beginning and then sometimes 129 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,239 Speaker 1: but they committed the most of America does not understand 130 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: how did five people that are not guilty of this 131 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: crime end up in prison? And to me, it's they 132 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: copped out to it. I wouldn't say they copped out. 133 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: They were pressured. They were pressured to make statements that 134 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: were untrue just to satisfy the detectives questions. And they 135 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: didn't have to say no more. They get at you 136 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: the d A and then the d A once they 137 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: copped out. But that's what at the beginning of this 138 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: this podcast, what did I say, shut the funk up? 139 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: You don't learn anything else. I wish I could get 140 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: somebody high profile, which Johnny shut the How don't learned 141 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: anything else from me anymore? You get in the box, 142 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: Shut the bunk up, explained to the cops. If he 143 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: was in my position, we're talking about. I don't care 144 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: how silent. Yes, yes, I teach my kids that, but 145 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: you're not built. And even my kids, well, um, my 146 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: kid was in a high school situation where they told 147 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: him right what happened, and he actually did after I 148 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: taught him, never write what happened. And I said, why 149 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: did you write what happened? And they said, well, the 150 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 1: guy told me that if if I don't write what happened, 151 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna call school police and make it a police matter. 152 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: But if I write what happened, we'll just keep an 153 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 1: internal within the school manipulation game. You know, it was 154 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: a little arson that a trash can was on fire, 155 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: So I told my son, you fell for the oaky dough. 156 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: But still you know, but at that point, and he 157 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: was fifteen and and he was afraid the consequences. That's 158 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: what these kids don't understand. The day, the consequences. If 159 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: they knew that they were going to prison for twenty years, 160 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 1: if they open their mom maybe they would have been reluctant. 161 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: But they don't know that, not that they thought they 162 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 1: were going home. They just want to go home. And 163 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: you cannot give promises right a wrong yesterday you can 164 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: trick people, but um, you can people. Yeah, you can. 165 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,599 Speaker 1: You can do with ruses. It's been supported by the 166 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. But you can't offer false promises, but you 167 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 1: can use people. You can ruse people. James, James told me, 168 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: y'all did it, but you can't say if you tell 169 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: me the truth, what happened? You know what. They still 170 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: use that right now today, And a lot of these 171 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 1: cats on the street don't understand that what James just 172 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: told me, y'all just shot at him. If somebody told 173 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: me you shot at the cat, all they have to 174 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: take is one names the streets. They got something called 175 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: I got down first. No, no, But the thing is, 176 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: all these guys get out first. We won't get down first. 177 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: A lot of us don't know that, don't know the loss. 178 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: But then here we go. You know, you're quick to 179 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: blame somebody else because the police told you, woot the 180 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: whoof this? And that happened? The police said this, so 181 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: you go home. This is how they destroyed half of 182 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: the real thug cats out there is if you got 183 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: a dirty name, you ain't no good. If you if 184 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: what you say day and you said yeah something. A 185 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: lot of cats have been disrespected has has been been. 186 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: Your homies said, y'all shot woo the whoop up. You 187 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Your homies is the one that's 188 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: told me and he said you had a wood the whoop. 189 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: Y'all already know what kind of girls using the homicide. 190 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: So now okay, the homies said, Now the first thing 191 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: we do is get on the phone Rick Toley and 192 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: motherfucker's whoo whoa. This is infamou They knew already, just 193 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: like really said at the beginning, shut the funk up. 194 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: If the police don't have nothing to write, are tight, 195 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: they can't take the d A nothing but this right here, 196 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: a blank sheet of paper. Now in the d A 197 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: gotta work. I don't. I don't. I'll sit and watch 198 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: forty eight I watched forty eight hours probably once or 199 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: twice a day, you know when I'm board, not doing anything, 200 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: doing the cookies and coffee, and I swear I sit 201 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: and see. Guys, I have seen so many cases made 202 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: where the right out of there where they just told 203 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: on themselves. I'd be like those cops are on their 204 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: best behavior on the first forty because it's a TV show. 205 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: Guys in positions like that how much side Cops in 206 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: positions like that are generally the cream of the crops. 207 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: I have no problem with the way those detectives on 208 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: first forty eight do their job. And the detectives on 209 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: this case cops and you guys in the soft uniforms, 210 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: not the ones in the suits and all of that, 211 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: but the ones in that that was a little there's 212 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: here's a great technique that cops do. They'll be sitting 213 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: across from you asking and then they'll do this one 214 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: that come over you Come on, man, you got a family, 215 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: think about your family. They come sit, they come move 216 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: over right next to you. It's all psychological. It's a game, 217 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: you know. But here's the here's the problem that I 218 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: have with something you said. You said they copped to it. 219 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: How can you cop to something that you know nothing about? 220 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: I think I changed the word after I say cop 221 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: to Uh, it was forced or something. You can't cop 222 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: to something you know nothing about. Yeah, correct, But they 223 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: said they admitted to something. They repeated the same the 224 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: stuff that the detectives were saying. But those detectives have 225 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:45,599 Speaker 1: to be smart enough to say, you know what, this 226 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: guy is actually just repeating what we're just saying. But 227 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: when you're trying to make a case and all of 228 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: that high profile case like that, I can see the 229 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: pressure and they wanted the people. But the good thing 230 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: about it, most people don't know, uh, because what happened was, uh, 231 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: Corey Corey Wise met up with Matt Matthews Rees in 232 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: prison in jail, and that was a good thing because 233 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: he was he was the only one that went to 234 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: adult prison and mattheis Rees was in an adult prison. 235 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: And somehow they convinced the Elmar you know, to tell 236 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: the truth, and they ran his DNA and found out 237 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: that his DNA matched the victims. That's how they were 238 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: not guilty. There should be some accountability though, on those 239 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: detectives and the prosecutor. The prosecutor she catching him, but 240 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: that's nothing. I mean, she already wrote thirty but she 241 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: was told actually wasn't. You can say her whole case 242 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: was alive. But she didn't. She reported, she reported what Yeah, 243 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: but that's just like would be to be in a 244 00:13:54,280 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: position such all the time rejected that case. According to her, 245 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: she didn't know. Of course, she's gonna say she didn't 246 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: know that. She just said, hey, this is what the 247 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: law enforcement gave me. This is what I had to 248 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: deal with because he catching a lot of help work 249 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: with the dean, So I got to investigate more. Why 250 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: she's oh, they all work together together, but they're not going. 251 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: But they don't want their mom lying. They don't. They 252 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: don't generally want that. UM. I think cases like that, 253 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: I think a lot of should be So what makes 254 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: you I don't think the FBI is more better than 255 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: most local comms. I think they got more resource, that's all. 256 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: They just got more time. They don't have as much. 257 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: They don't have much time. They have more time to 258 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: investigate where street cops they have small department. They just 259 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: have to keep working working cases, cases, cases, you know, 260 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: something new happening every day, where the FBI and the 261 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: US Attorney just get a sign on the case and 262 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: they've run with that for two years. So it's the 263 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: only difference. So the homicide, uh, the police officers that 264 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: was on this case, well homicide, right, No, they were 265 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: sex crimes Union, the best of that, you know, big 266 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: big department. Let me read something that the prosecutor of 267 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: the case, Linda Farsting, said recently. She said that the 268 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: TV show depicts me in a fictionalized version of events 269 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: and a grossly and maliciously inaccurate manner. Well, we though 270 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: TV show I say that about Tom, They great, Katie 271 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: has made me and I'm still cool with him because 272 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: but you know what we expect for her to say. 273 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: Um Eva Diverne, the producer of the show, actually says 274 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: she reached out to the prosecutor, the former prosecutor, to 275 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: bring her in on the show to get her side 276 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: of the story. And she said that the prosecutor, Miss 277 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: Linda Farstein, had all of these requests about having creative control, 278 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: being able to tell it the way she wanted to 279 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: tell it, and they said, no, no, no, this is 280 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: our story. This is actually these guys story. We want 281 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: to bring you in too for your input. And she 282 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: didn't want any party to do with the show. Why 283 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: is that, Well, obviously because opinions in the way that 284 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: she was depicted, like like like like like I said earlier, 285 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: where go pick up all black guys, go pick up everybody? 286 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: And then she was like, well I did to tell 287 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: them to go pick up everybody involved in the case. 288 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? You know, just like everything. 289 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: That's why you can't look at shows versus documentary. I'd 290 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: rather see the documentary because I know there's gonna be 291 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: a little bit of um, you know, some creative license 292 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: used to to tell the four part series. Yeah, but 293 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: from what I understand, EVA is a stickler for the facts. 294 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: The producer and UM and what these guys are saying, 295 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: and some recent interviews are pretty much you know, accurate, 296 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: meaning what that they can't be trusted or they picked 297 00:16:57,920 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: ms I'm saying. So they're gonna they're gonna tell there 298 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: they're true. I believe what they're saying now, I mean, 299 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: I mean no, I mean, we have no choice because 300 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: it's already been it's factually known the rapist as a 301 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: whole another person, and these five teenagers at the time 302 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: have nothing to do stupid enough. It's the interrogation. It's 303 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: the interrogation tactics that I'm critical of. On first forty eight, 304 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: I have no problem with the way we see those detectives, 305 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: whether it's in um, what cities do they do they St. 306 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: Louis Dallas, I haven't. I don't have any criticism. Those 307 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: are professional homicide detectives. They asked the right questions, they 308 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: put enough pressure on there. What these detectives did in 309 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: this case was like a thousand times a thousand what 310 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: you see on first forty eight. You know, I don't 311 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: No one needs to get beat up in the interrogation room. 312 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: How many people get their ass kicked on first forty eight, 313 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: but how many at the end of pursuits. Now you 314 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: know that helicopter the news helicopters don't have. It's not 315 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: it's not necessary. You don't need to be that someone 316 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: during interrogation with very where the body cam you should 317 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: have every everybody that goes in that room. It should 318 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: be videotaped. How did Jerry gate that person? Even the 319 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: CIA says, um certain interrogations that they've done in the 320 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: past ineffective. If you're water boarders water boarding someone, they're 321 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: gonna say whatever you want to have you ever felt 322 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: what it's like. I actually got water boarder one because 323 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to feel those like it is torture. Somebody's 324 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: pouring water on the top of my head and they 325 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: want me to say where when Mohammed is at. I'm 326 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: telling Mohammed is around the corner of the street, up 327 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: the hill, down the stair. So the CIA actually determined 328 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: that water boarding people yielded false information. So you can't 329 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: tell me that aggressive interrogation techniques is going to yield 330 00:18:54,840 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: false information sometimes too, right, Actually, all right, Reggie's quiet 331 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: right now. But I mean, I think the CIA probably 332 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: knows more about interrogation than any other government body on 333 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: the planets. Yeah, Central Intelligence Agency, the ones that actually 334 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: use water boarding, and a lot of CIA experts say 335 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: it yields false information. So my question is, do you 336 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: understand why an Arab in Saudi Arabia that's being water 337 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: boarded in the basement of a safe house that the 338 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: CIA is running is gonna tell them whatever they want 339 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: to hear. It's the same concept, so the innocent innocent. 340 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: I'm talking about people that got water board We found 341 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: out that most of the people in Guantanamo Bay had 342 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: nothing to do with terrorism, and they were sitting in 343 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: Guantanamo Bay for nothing to do with terrorist at all. 344 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: Most of them, I would say that over sevent them 345 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with were never linked to any 346 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: terrorist activity. Yeah, they got a few of them, but 347 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: they swept up a whole lot. It's just like what 348 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: this prosecutor said, there's a line like you were mentioned 349 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: and go to Harlem, go to uptown and get every 350 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: black kid and bring them in for questioning. You know, 351 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: that's what That's what the movie depicts. That's what the 352 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: movie depicts. Yeah, she's denying that, you know. Of course 353 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: she's gonna deny. She's gonna deny everything. I mean, she's 354 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: got a lot to lose, she's got her publishing deals, 355 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: she's on a bunch of boards that don't want her 356 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: on there anymore, and there's some sponsorships all right. So 357 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to bring up one more thing that I 358 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: thought was kind of interesting. Um, I think the article 359 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: was a little misleading, but there's an article that said 360 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: the crypts trademark the marathon continues the trademarking. Yeah, so 361 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: I looked it up, and what it is is Nipsey 362 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: Hustle's brother is trademarking the word um ther the phrase 363 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: the marathon continues, but within the trademark it actually has 364 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: the words cripts and bloods in it. So I think 365 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: the media kind of got a misunderstanding of of what 366 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: maybe Nipsey's brother was trying to do if. But it 367 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: also brings up an interesting idea about what gangs can do. 368 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: So James, imagine if you or one of your homeboys decided, Hey, 369 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: let's incorporate or trademark the phrase mob piru. And then 370 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: and let's start encouraging our youth from the neighborhood to 371 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: start creating businesses under the banner mab Piru. Now ma 372 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: Piru is a corporation. And now we got a car 373 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: wash under mab Piru. We got a Hamburger stand under 374 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: mab piru. Because that's really what Nipsey's brothers doing. He's 375 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: doing a T shirt T shirts. It is. And I 376 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: think that all gangs should start moving in this direction. 377 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: In fact, gang members have already been moving in this 378 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: direction for the last years, being more entrepreneurial, investing their 379 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: money buying property. But usually it's elicit money that's generated 380 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: through drugs. Are Yeah, it's usually like drug dealer money 381 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: being poured into legitimate enterprises. But now we can be 382 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: at a point where like like Black Sam, Nipsey's brother, 383 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: he could actually take legitimate money and invested into something 384 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: and just keep flipping, keep flipping, keep flipping, as they 385 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: say on the streets in the drug game. And I'm 386 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: just surprised that more gangs do not become corporations. You 387 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: don't have too many gangs out there that God leaders. 388 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: That's intelligent like that. That that's really on the business 389 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: aspect of it. Not back then you weren't looking at 390 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: it like that. Nowadays you can get your phone and 391 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: google anything and you can come up with something like this. 392 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: Back then, you no one would ever think that's use 393 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: our hood to benefit in a in a in a 394 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: righteous way. I saw the brother from West Side Paru Wacko, 395 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: he's making Paru shirts that's now putting the p on it. 396 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: And now people might look at that as, oh, that's 397 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: that's gang banging, But it's really the culture, right It's 398 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: it's the culture. It's the neighborhood as the community, and 399 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: why not make some shirts and and build a business 400 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: off of it. Whether it says par rou or whatever. 401 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: What I'm saying. If you thought about it years ago, 402 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: just think where you'll be now. You know what I'm saying. 403 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: Just like I mean, it's catchy, but none of us 404 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: don't like this. Are are thinking that was business minded? 405 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: Should I say? No, brothers twenty years ago with business minded, 406 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: but it was it was I'm saying, it was more 407 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: about crack cocaine. How do I cut this ups but 408 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: it's taking it's taking that same mentality something else in 409 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: nineteen Now it's totally different. The technology is different. You know, 410 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: we didn't have a phone where we can do all 411 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: this different ship with Now, man, this is this. This 412 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: is a great ideal because a lot of things gonna 413 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: come with this. You know, you do anything that got 414 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: nipsey on it. They putting on the rights to it. 415 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting to see how long this 416 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: this plays out, how long Lauren London and her her 417 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: daughter or her sign. I sat back and uh let 418 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: the family continue to uh on on this patent. It 419 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: says they're gonna create shirts, T shirts, sweaters, beanies, hats, sweatsuits, 420 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,239 Speaker 1: varsity jackets, pants, socks, footwear. I mean every anybody can 421 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: do that for their neighborhood and community. Well he was 422 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: already going to anybody can do that for the neighborhood. 423 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: But there we get together and go to every different 424 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: hood and we put a plan together in Gentlem, this 425 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: is what we can do for your neighborhood. We can 426 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: get shirts, has many, we create everything. We're creative thing 427 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: and give y'all of whatever we make. Games. No, no, 428 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: it's glorifying the neighborhood, the community. It's it's more about 429 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: pride where you grew up, like open up an organization 430 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: where that money can go into that. It helped that 431 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: neighborhood victims is what I'll call it. Gunshot victims. So 432 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: now I know you're from the mob and you're claiming 433 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: the mob, and I'm from Santana Black you when you 434 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: got everybody you think that, you think that wackos shirts, 435 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: whacko from West Side, Piru making those Piru shirts. That's 436 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: a dangerous thing. Yeah, yeah, we're just to be on it. Yeah, 437 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: because now I know you, I know where you're from. 438 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,479 Speaker 1: I know what everyone already knows where he's from. I'm 439 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: talking about talk about him, But the person that's wearing it, 440 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: I got a pirate. I'm not a Piru. And I 441 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: got one of them shirts. I got the Hoover shirt. 442 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: They got a thing called fixed Side. I got a 443 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: Hoover shirts over there and do gang gang out and 444 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: stuff like that. But when when I got a little 445 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: when I'm going to school and got my little fourteen 446 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: fifteen year old, So I bet you won't let yourself 447 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: wearing them that way? You got a point but I'm 448 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: talking about for adults. I'm talking about for adults. But 449 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: then who's gonna visually wanted? I don't know's I mean? 450 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: It is like the Crenshaw, the marathon thing and all 451 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: of that, because it's not doing game members and game. 452 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: I mean I gained territories. I don't mean to say 453 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: members gained territories, meaning you support. It's like the m 454 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: OB sign. Uh, everybody putting on the m ob pinky 455 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: ring and all of that stuff. Now, that would have 456 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: been a great trademark, but the Crenshaw is a gang 457 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: thing though. In fact, let me tell you one of 458 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: the first games. You know. Maybe you'll say, but but 459 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: that's not what Nimpsey was was promoting. He was really 460 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: promoting CRENSHAWL. Slawson. Well that's wrong with sixty script name. 461 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: I mean, but but he would. But we didn't look 462 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: at it, and we looked at it as Crenshaw Boulevard, 463 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: our our Avenue, whichever wanted. Maybe you did, because I 464 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: didn't look at that. I wore the Crunshaw shirt once 465 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: when I was going to interview some five dudes Hoover's. 466 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: When I got to the little shop that they had, 467 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: they asked me, can you take that shirt off? And 468 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: I was like why, They said, because that's neighborhood Chris. 469 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: So they gave me a fix Side Hoover shirt. So 470 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: I literally took the Crunshaw shirt off and put the 471 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 1: fix Side shirt off that they gave me. So you 472 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 1: wouldn't be a problem. You just told me a few 473 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,959 Speaker 1: minutes a problem. I mean, wouldn't like that wanta beat 474 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: my ass? And I knew who you were, They knew 475 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: you wouldn't a crunshall. They just just like, I'm sure 476 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: if I had on a Pyreus shirt and I walked 477 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: over into Santana Block neighborhood, they're gonna be like, you 478 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: gotta really wear that over here. They're not gonna be 479 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: my but let my son, your son or somebody like 480 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: that come winning over there. They you're claiming that, huh 481 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: And you over here you got something that that's silly 482 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: like that, And yeah, you're gonna have a problem wearing it. 483 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna have a problem wearing But I mean, you 484 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: can understand that what you're saying. But I'm just saying 485 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna be future guns. Go to the Laker game 486 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: and wait outside. But Piru is a street just like 487 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: Compton is. But I know, I like argument. I'm sorry 488 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 1: you just like crunch, I got you. Now, I always 489 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: see these Compton hats with the old English right across 490 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: the top. Who makes those hats? Remember the Nano tots 491 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: and everybody start coming out with the DIFP coats and 492 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: all that Beverly Hills. Then they make it first come 493 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: from all that the phone. But yeah, I remember those 494 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: T shirts wasn't big. But what was they called? I think, yeah, 495 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: we did that, but it was really Beverly Hills. I 496 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: think they started. Now, what if someone trademarked Compton and 497 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: put it on hats and shirts and started selling that. 498 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: You think somebody might feel a certain kind of way, 499 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: but they can ain't nobody. I know that the swap 500 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: mean make those hats, Yeah, but I don't think that 501 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: the Koreans that the swap mean trademarked, trademarketing. Shoul Ice 502 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: Cub don't get the credit that he should get for 503 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: the Raiders and the White Sox and then he was 504 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: the first one to start wearing on him and easy 505 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: and in double A because man, then the NFL sall 506 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: hold up and they started trademarking them. Could you imagine 507 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: how much money ice Cube and then Double A and 508 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: all of them lost would have had if they would 509 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: have helped the Raiders or this or went to them 510 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: and say, hey, this is what we're going to create. 511 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: We want to percentage and we're gonna help market your stuff. Man. Man, well, 512 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: I think there's a way that gangs could try to 513 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: incorporate themselves produce product that maybe not as gang related 514 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: as Yeah, the p for pyrou is very obvious. That's 515 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: I mean just to say that if to get games 516 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: to be really on a more positive note, to create 517 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: something that that can go anywhere and everywhere, let's not 518 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: have the game mentality to put it out there like 519 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: that on some gang ship. You know what I'm saying. 520 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: The marathon is basically like, you know, there's some good ship. 521 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: We doant some hood ships, so Nigga's gonna buy. But 522 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: I think people all over the world go to the 523 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: website they want a pirous shirt. White folks and Middle 524 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: America want a piroushert. But still everybody ain't. They wasn't 525 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: even trying to sell that crush Shall stuff to people 526 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: in the hood. He was mainly doing it for out 527 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: of towners and people to come and visit the show, 528 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: and and and and mainly most of their sales was 529 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: done what on the internet. Yes, so I think the 530 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: marathon continues. Slogan is it's very neutral. But I love 531 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: all of that. I just man, they must have a 532 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: strong family because the baby mamas are being awfully quiet. 533 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: Well what's your name? Got the baby? I mean she got, 534 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: but there's another baby my mouth there. Yeah, I think 535 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: they should be more quiet. More the street about this 536 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 1: generally don't happen. I know I can do it. Well. 537 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: The first baby mama was upset because she lost her 538 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: little court hearing trying to get this custody of Yeah, 539 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: Nipsey's family has the kids. I don't know. I don't 540 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: know what she There's a lot of other don't okay, 541 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know. I don't know specifics about her. 542 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: All I know is she the judge definitely agreed with 543 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: Nipp's family that you are not getting the kid. You know. 544 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. But they tried to interview her while 545 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: she was walking out the court and she didn't have 546 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: anything to say. No, she looked pretty good, she looked okay, 547 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: and then um, I saw some photos of her on 548 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: her Instagram page. She looked fine, but I was I 549 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: was told that she went to her Instagram and deleted 550 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff that made her look bad so 551 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: that maybe she can get her kid back. But she 552 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: didn't get the kid back. I don't know. Yeah, I 553 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: heard another kid. But I heard that the Marathon store 554 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: was back ordered, like thousands and thousands of orders. I 555 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: heard it made like dollars. And since it's depth, at 556 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: one point, everybody any mama trying to get to get 557 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: that major advertisement. He got shoes, he got shows, she 558 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: got everything out there. Well, I think that all these 559 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: different neighborhoods throughout Los Angeles should start thinking more business 560 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: minded and perhaps come up with more neutral terms. But 561 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: also it represents your neighbor like Rosecrans. I saw I 562 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: saw ge Weed from Campanella Park once wearing a Rosecrans shirt. 563 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: You know that doesn't necessarily mean you pirou Rosecrans goes 564 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: through Let's see, Rose Crest can go anywhere. Yeah, but 565 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: that's cool. But what I'm saying is, man, I just 566 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: gotta just gotta really like think I really don't have 567 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: Santana block Rosecrans kind of hits one side of Santana Block. 568 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: Rose Crans goes straight on up. Yeah mostly, but when 569 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: she said that down though, but Santano Many Alameda or 570 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: Santa Fe or Rose Street, but they're right on the 571 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: south side of the roads. Well, but I don't think 572 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: they represent Rose when you when you say everybody in town? 573 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: But would you think would you say, would you say 574 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: rosecrans is a more neutral term that could be used 575 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 1: for That's a good point, Like, that's a good one. 576 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: I just I just think, man being a game banger 577 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: and trying to get away and separate yourself from being 578 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: a game banger, you should not think or trying to 579 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: keep the game banging mentality. If you moved on, let's 580 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: move on now, let's be more creative on what I'm 581 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: trying to do and how I want to do it. 582 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: That's the only way you can just truly get away 583 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: from the game banging thing. But did Nipsey have the 584 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: gang banging mentality? Still? Yeah? Yeah, your that will never 585 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: go nowhere. But I took it somewhere else. He didn't. 586 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: He didn't. His whole focus was on some hoodship because 587 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: he could have been a big old and h on 588 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: everything he had. But he didn't do it like that. 589 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: He chose something like we just said, Chris Shaw. But 590 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: what did he say every time he greeted you? This 591 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: is neighborhood? N Every greeting was neighborhood, NI and who 592 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: and who. Ain't getting down like that, But I'm not 593 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: with it. But this is who I am. Now, I 594 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: got no problem with it. And and man, I guarantee 595 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: you nobody else had a problem with him saying that. 596 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is just to to get away 597 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: from the game banging mentality and be creative with what 598 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: you're really trying to do and you really want to 599 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: take it somewhere, Let's not think like that. Let's get 600 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: outside of that box and let's go and let's create 601 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: something that I think everybody you want without having the 602 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: second guess of putting it on, of what color it 603 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: is or whatever. It'd be nice. Game bang. It ain't 604 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: gonna be eradicated. Yeah, I don't think gangs are going 605 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: anywhere anytime soon. They've been in America for fifty years. 606 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: They're probably gonna be here. Um for as long as 607 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: society exists, we're gonna have gangs. But we can move 608 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: gangs into a different direction, though, we can push them 609 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: over here where killings drop, conflict drops, assault shop. You're 610 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: never gonna have zero conflicts, zero shooting, zero killings. But 611 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: if you've got more people incorporating thinking about let me 612 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: make these shirts or let me press these um well, 613 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: I was gonna say CDs, that's getting played out, but 614 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: let me work on the music, let me do this, 615 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: let me do that, you're gonna have less people out 616 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: there saying let me go shoot this dude, let me 617 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: go dump on this guy. No, every day, every day 618 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 1: you got a new blood and you got a new crip. 619 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: But you gotta new something, want to be something everybody 620 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: wants the name at the beginning. If you if you 621 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: stop these kids, these fourteen fifteen year old kids, and 622 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: give them something productive, then you run out of o 623 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: g s. Because if you got these nineteen year old 624 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: cats and you say, okay, the nineteen years old they're 625 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: gonna do this, they should gonna play out. But if 626 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: I'm stopping everything from there on down and teaching them 627 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: and showing them there's a different way out. You don't 628 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: have to be a game banger. You could be this. 629 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,920 Speaker 1: You can be that. You can go to the military. 630 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: You can do this. If we get them kids, then 631 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,479 Speaker 1: you it wee it'll wear itself out. Well you're talking 632 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: about I'm talking about, yeah, teaching our kids, don't. Don't. 633 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: Every black man has a son. Every black man should 634 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 1: be accountable for his son. I'm proud to be a 635 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: father of a king. Treat your son such as teaching ship. 636 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: I didn't have the privilege of having my father teach 637 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: me how to be bate a hook with a worm. 638 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: I didn't have the privilege of my father on the 639 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 1: football with me. It takes you somewhere else. I had 640 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: a grandfather though, that taught me good, you know what 641 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But you still take that somewhere else. So 642 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: you need more than conversation. Just because he taught me everything, 643 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: don't mean I'm gonna be everything. So I mean we 644 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: gotta step our game up as father's you know what 645 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Just because you're at home with him and 646 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: and and you say good morning sun every day, don't 647 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: mean you're being a good father. You gotta teach him. 648 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 1: You gotta show him. I gotta show you how to 649 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: treat this woman. I gotta show you how to groom yourself. 650 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: I gotta show you how to do this. Beating up 651 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: women don't do nothing but but take away from your 652 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: your your your your manhood. Just I mean, you gotta 653 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: teach him a lot of type of ship, a lot 654 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: of ship. Well, I agree, in an ideal world, all 655 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: of that's definitely for the betterment of a kid. Well, 656 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: if daddy, if if, if, if fathers step up from 657 00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 1: day one, if if, if they step up, your your 658 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: child got a better chance. And not just going out 659 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: there and saying because there's so much out here to 660 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,359 Speaker 1: show your son, this is what happens if you want 661 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: to take this round. It's so much out there. So 662 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: be be a teacher to your your your child. You 663 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Be be a teacher as well 664 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: as your father and your son to get it your 665 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: son to understand we didn't have that. But all you 666 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: have to do is do it now. And and man, 667 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 1: you save your kids. Well, you know, we should definitely 668 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: talk about that topic next week and more in depth 669 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: about the role moms have and the role that that 670 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: men have in terms of raising our kids. In Los Angeles, Compton, 671 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: Long Beach, Watts and in these streets because a lot 672 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: of it has to do with family, why these guys 673 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: go on the streets. And then also, UM, I want 674 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 1: everybody to watch this show. It's four episode. I don't 675 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: know if you got four. Um it's four episodes, and 676 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 1: maybe we can talk specifically about I would actually recommend 677 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: listening to some interviews of these guys too, so you 678 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: can get some some factual stuff, because I don't know 679 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 1: how accurate the show is, but the show is when 680 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:21,919 Speaker 1: they see us for four episodes on Netflix, and um, 681 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: I just watched the one episode and I was just 682 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:29,959 Speaker 1: completely appalled at the interrogation techniques that these detectives were using. 683 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: But um, we're gonna wrap it up right there now. 684 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles, 685 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 1: and uh, stay tuned for another great episode next week. 686 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for watching. Good morning, goodnight, good evening, wherever you 687 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: may be really listening from Bye Bye out of here.