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Speaker 2: Today's episode case spoil is for Peacemaker season two season finale. Hello,

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Speaker 2: I am Jasonconcepcia and I'm Rosy Night, and welcome back

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Speaker 2: to Xtra. Video of the podcast We Dive Gee be

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Speaker 2: your favorite shows. We be comics of pop culture, coming

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Speaker 2: from my heart. We're ready three episodes a week.

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Speaker 1: Plus news. In today's episode, we are going to recap

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Speaker 1: the season finale of peace Maker season two, and then

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about where we think the Gun of

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Speaker 1: Us goes from here. We have some theories, some thoughts,

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Speaker 1: and of course, as usual, we have super producer Ian,

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Speaker 1: our peace Maker correspondent.

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Speaker 3: How are you doing, Ian, I'm great, Ready to go.

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Speaker 3: I really really liked this episode and I think we

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Speaker 3: have a pretty clear roadmap for where James Gunn is

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Speaker 3: planning to take the DCUs. So let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: Season two finale for Peacemaker Full Nelson. We open one

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Speaker 2: month ago. This is after sometime shortly after the events

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Speaker 2: of season one of Peacemaker. This is the boat incident.

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Speaker 2: Chris and Harcourt are on a date down on the

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Speaker 2: Chris tells Harcourt about sleeze rock, telling her all about

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Speaker 2: how important sleeze rock is and the pop cultural value

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Speaker 2: sleeze rock song which causes Hardcourt to cringe and hide

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Speaker 4: Chris clearly, very very dearly loves.

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Speaker 1: Harcourt, just in love with that completely.

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Speaker 2: Harcourt, of course, can't accept love, does not feel that

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Speaker 4: The course of season two.

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Speaker 2: Chris orders a dozen shots for them, six and six,

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Speaker 2: which isving a bad idea, and they deficient, though they

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Speaker 2: Harcourt goes like at the neck of a cat collar,

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Speaker 2: but Chris, shy you know, shoes the guy away for

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Speaker 2: You can't even call them legends. They're the sons of

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Speaker 2: like so into it. He pulls Hardcoard over and we

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Speaker 2: He doesn't want to see them. He just wants to

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Speaker 2: stay in his cell and mope, mope, mope, mope around. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: Argus is like all hands on deck. They're exploring the

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Speaker 2: keep Lexus stuff that has been seized ever since the

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Speaker 2: events of Superman, Harcourt, Flurry, Titties, Bordeaux. They're all in

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Speaker 4: These worlds with QP, all of.

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Speaker 2: Them with economists, you know, behind the ones and twos

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Speaker 1: Why is that? Why he goes up titsies?

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Speaker 2: Attebio comes to see Adrian in his house. He is

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Speaker 4: A really good lawyer.

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Speaker 2: Talking about shut the talk out of here. Shut.

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Speaker 1: Why why has bitch kept all that money? Why does

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Speaker 2: Because this big one off but it's just blood money

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Speaker 2: We realized that magic is real now, and you know what,

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Speaker 4: I kind of went wrong. You're literally not wrong.

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Speaker 1: We just saw it wrong.

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Speaker 2: We just saw like, uh, you know, Saint Cloud have

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Speaker 2: So they take the money and they bail Chris out,

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Speaker 4: As regular humans like amongst ourselves.

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Speaker 2: At some point, Bordeaux comes clean about what the planet

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Speaker 2: She is separated from Kia and tells her, Listen, I

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Speaker 4: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 2: They okay, Peacemaker, he's coming out just as they are arriving,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot.

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Speaker 2: I need you, yeah, we need you back. We need

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Speaker 2: And here's why, because basically everybody that I encounter dies,

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Speaker 2: look my brother I killed when I was eight, my dad.

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Speaker 4: I caused to die.

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Speaker 4: And everybody's dying. And it's hard to argue with this, Ads.

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Speaker 2: So ADS tries to get through to him, and honestly,

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Speaker 2: I don't know that it one hundred percent sold me,

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Speaker 2: heart and and.

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Speaker 4: We love you.

438
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 1: The bit that sold me was when she said, when

439
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: I'm around you, I feel loved. I know you love

440
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: me no matter what else I do. And I was like,

441
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: you know what that can make you look over overlook

442
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: a lot of things about person if you feel like

443
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: they have your back no matter what.

444
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

445
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 2: So everybody kind of chimes in that like yeah, you're

446
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 2: we love you, and Harcourt then finally does too, and

447
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 2: of course is like, yeah, you were tied together, you

448
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 2: and I were together. So eleven Street Kids are back

449
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 2: and they tell them what's going on and how they

450
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: need to stop argus.

451
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 4: So what are we gonna do? Chris asks Harcourt then, because.

452
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 2: Like he's never gonna have more leverage, and now, like

453
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: if the boat kiss meant anything, and Harcourt, yes it

454
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 2: is like, yes, it meant everything, and if Chris is

455
00:24:59,480 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 2: like totally so.

456
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 4: One week later, we've.

457
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 2: Got this kind of montage intercutting moment. We're back at

458
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 2: the docks.

459
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 4: Now. The Foxy Gazelle, the.

460
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: Band who plays the theme song, is playing on the

461
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 2: boat Sha and TV Foxy Jazam is playing on the

462
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 2: same boat that Nelson once played on. The Eleven Street

463
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 2: Kids now including Sasha, pack up all the cursed blood

464
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: money and use it to set themselves up with a

465
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 2: brand new, sleek, modern office space headquarters with like beautiful

466
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 2: computers and wood paneling and lots of natural light, and

467
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: they're really really happy. Flurry joins up. He's like bullshitting

468
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: with Adrian about spiders and quizzing about spiders.

469
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Speaker 1: I love that scene so much, Like I was gonna say,

470
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: also keep it on because you might be watching. Obviously,

471
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: people are upset that they changed the theme tune the

472
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 1: Foxy Shazam. They have the whole theme tune from season one,

473
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 1: playing your love for fox esus and may vary when

474
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: you see them. I was already I'd heard this song

475
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: too much and this band is out of my nightmare

476
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: but what I thought like was really interesting was the

477
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 1: way that they basically had multiple go cut to black

478
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: moments where some people may skip, but they were actually

479
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: essentially multiple kind of mini post credit scenes. And I

480
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: really loved the moment where it was like, yeah, Fleury's

481
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: actually gonna sit there and quiz Adrian, this is like

482
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: his dream. Everyone else is at the party, and he's

483
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, h do you know about spiders? And

484
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: my favorite part is even when Adrian gets stuff wrong,

485
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: he just lets him think he's wrong. Yea, Like they're

486
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: for each other, They're like besties, And I love it.

487
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: So we get these wonderful kind of closing loop moments

488
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 2: eagerly basically like warming to economists all the way because

489
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 2: giving him a hug was has fed him and tried to,

490
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,360
Speaker 2: you know, pick up his spirits. When Chris was gone,

491
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: Chris and Harcourt going on dates back down at the

492
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: dock again at the same Burger place, we discover that

493
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 2: the new the eleven Street Kids new private security company

494
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 2: is called Checkmate, and.

495
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: Then Judo Masters also joined the group that's rights and

496
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 3: Checkmate with them.

497
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: Yes, and I love I love the addition of Judah

498
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: Master Flurry I also think that Sasha Bordeaux makes a

499
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: lot of sense because one cool weird cyborg. Two well

500
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 1: probably I'm guessing see checkmate interact with whoever ends up

501
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: becoming Batman, and that's probably how she'll end up working

502
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 1: with Batman.

503
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 4: That's right, That's that's that's a good bet. But of course.

504
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 2: It's too good to be true, wonderful, happy ending, and

505
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: it's it is too good to be true. Argust takes

506
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 2: Chris hostage one night as he's checking back into his

507
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 2: sleazy hotel. You think they'd set him up with some

508
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: of the blood money in a nicer place, but no,

509
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: just Chris somewhere. Yeah, Chris wants to be there. They

510
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: drag him to the portals opened sanctuary up as Titt's.

511
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 4: Titt's how could you titties? I know she looks on.

512
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm like teeth, I thought you were a real one.

513
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: She was about it.

514
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: That so titties, Titty's otis Sydney. They're all looking on

515
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: as Chris is dragged into salvation to be a prisoner there.

516
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: Senior is basically like, ha ha ha, You're gonna be

517
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 2: the canary and the coal mine. Let's wear to see

518
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 2: if this is gonna work. You're gonna be the first

519
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: person in here to see if a guy will die

520
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: in there, if they just exactly. Senior is like, thank

521
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: you so much for volunteering. H Chris is like, what

522
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 2: the fuck do you mean. He's like, oh, these documents

523
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 2: that you signed that said I would love to go

524
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: in there to the cross Portal prison and just fucking

525
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: hang out there forever. And of course this is Senior's revenge.

526
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: He basically says, says that this is for Junior.

527
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 4: Fuck you.

528
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: And now you're trapped and then we get the Stingers

529
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: and hopefully you have hung on for the Stingers. All

530
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: the stakeholders back of the Department of Defense are like

531
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: getting all this there, you know. Now it's a pitch

532
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: fest about like, okay, what else can we do with

533
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: this place? How about like a vaporizing barrier around the planet,

534
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: so like if people try to rescue them, like their

535
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: ships get destroyed, like and they're very excited about the prospect.

536
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, the bugs app for the planet, you know exactly.

537
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: And then the final, final, final Stinger is an extended

538
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: scene of economists basically riffing to continue to distract Sydney

539
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: and Otis as Sasha and Harcourt look for Chris's neck bomb,

540
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: and then it's over.

541
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Speaker 4: Let's take a quick break and then we're gonna come back.

542
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 4: I can talk about what we thought about this season.

543
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 4: Were at our thoughts on season two of Peacemaker, Rosie.

544
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: Yes, I think everyone knows. I think it's a far

545
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: more successful season. I will say, I think if and

546
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: you know, we Aaron are official hot take machine, you know.

547
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: I think he did make He did make a good

548
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: point in the group chat where he was kind of like, look,

549
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,239
Speaker 1: don't hype up the cameos if you can't deliver now.

550
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: I will personally say I love the Rick Flag Junior cameo.

551
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: I thought that was really unexpected. I thought it was

552
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: really interesting. I loved Rex cameo was really good. But

553
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: I do get it that there is the space of

554
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: of you know, well, this is kind of a big

555
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: moment that maybe was not kind of set up in

556
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: a way that feels as huge as it is. But

557
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: we are going to dig into kind of checkmate the

558
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: comic book history, like why this probably what this hints

559
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: at for the future. I think it's a cool set

560
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: and I think the emotional journey of the characters was

561
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: worth it. Plus I loved I know it was a

562
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: controversial addition to Meadows as Flurry, but I love Flurry.

563
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: I think he's so funny. I'm glad he joined the team.

564
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: I love Judo Master. I think they never gave him

565
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: his credit or his jew and I think that this

566
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: is actually a really interesting evolution of the character. I'm

567
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: interested to see him together. I also love this kind

568
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: of infinite money pool that they've given themselves as a

569
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: narrative with Adrian's blood money. So yeah, I thought it

570
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: was really good. Ian. How about you? How did you

571
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: feel about season two?

572
00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 4: Overall?

573
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 3: I thought it was a really excellent season of TV.

574
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed it so much more than the first season.

575
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: And I think, so far, of what we've gotten in

576
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 3: the DCU, this has been my favorite project. And I

577
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 3: think it's really was a beautiful showcase for you know,

578
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: the the talent and the writing skill of James gunn As.

579
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: We know. You know, he really likes to put these

580
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: big emotional stories into his movies, like he did with

581
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 3: The Guardians movies for example, And I think that given

582
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 3: the length of a TV series like that just lend

583
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 3: itself to his inclinations, like even more, you have more

584
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: time to develop these relationships and get to know these characters,

585
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 3: so the emotional moments I think hit even harder. And

586
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Speaker 3: I will say I think the tone of these final

587
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 3: three episodes, especially compared to some of the earlier episodes

588
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: which were kind of silly with things like Red Saint

589
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 3: Wild and the audition with the Justice Gang where the

590
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 3: mic is on, they have those gags, compared to how

591
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,479
Speaker 3: really dramatic and the emotional weight of some of these

592
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: later episodes. I think the shift in that tone was

593
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 3: also kind of executed pretty flawlessly in my opinion. So

594
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Speaker 3: I think overall was just a really excellent season of TV,

595
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: and you know, we got to I fell in love

596
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 3: with these characters even more. And then I think the

597
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 3: roadmap for where the DCU is going is laid out

598
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: pretty clearly by this finale, which we'll get into a

599
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 3: little bit later. But I think overall it was a

600
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: very successful season of TV in terms of setting up

601
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Speaker 3: you know, what he wants to do with the universe

602
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 3: moving forward.

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Speaker 1: Jason, how about you?

604
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I think that the emotional stakes were

605
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: were expanded this season. You know, it's hard to of course.

606
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: Season one, I thought the kind of redemption of Peacemaker,

607
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 2: him coming to terms with the traumatic events of his

608
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: childhood and his family life was really compelling. But I

609
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: love the way that Gunn was able to tie that

610
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: redemption to a continuing, you know, attempt by Chris to

611
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 2: fix his life, and also to widen the scope of

612
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: that so that we see an entire cast all the

613
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 2: Eleventh Street kids, like really in a state of flux,

614
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: you know. I think we talked about and I had

615
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: quibbles with the amount of time that some of the

616
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: characters were were in the series vision Atabio.

617
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: I think, you know, obviously I would love to have

618
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,479
Speaker 1: seen more of them.

619
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Speaker 2: For the most part, but I thought everybody got a

620
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: really good emotional arc, and I thought the writing was fantastic.

621
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Speaker 2: The new cast editions, as he said, were great. This

622
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: felt like a much more confident and in his element

623
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 2: James Gunn, and the momentum that it had coming off

624
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: of Superman was wonderful.

625
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 4: I do agree.

626
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 2: Listen, do we over hype the cameos maybe a little bit? Yeah,

627
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 2: I think we over I think a little bit.

628
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: I think one more cameo, no matter who it is. Honestly,

629
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Speaker 1: even if it wasn't the Big Boy in Blue, Superman

630
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: or anything. I do think if they'd have had one

631
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: big cameo in the finale, even if it was just

632
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: another like Sydney Happistine or a Lowess Lane on the TV,

633
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: people probably wouldn't have even been talking about it, because

634
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: I do think the other two were so good. I

635
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: think it was just this finale was definitely more focused

636
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: on I think the Eleventh Street Kids than people necessarily realize.

637
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: But as you said, Ian, I think we are gonna

638
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: I think even though for maybe some people it feels

639
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: like it's not necessarily clear where it's going, we are

640
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: going to be able to explain.

641
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: We can break it up. Yeah, I.

642
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 4: Can listen.

643
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 2: I understand from the perspective of we want to make

644
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: sure that people watch this season and watch all the

645
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: way through. I think that was probably that's probably a

646
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: concern for WB But yes, I do think they oversold it.

647
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: But overall, like great season with wonderful connections to the

648
00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 2: rest of the wider universe.

649
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 4: It was a show that really and this is.

650
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: A thing that like Marvel TV has has has struggled with.

651
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 2: It's impactful to the overall DCEU universe, like this has

652
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: no it's gonna connect.

653
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: Yes, it feels so well done, so smooth, so free, integrated.

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Speaker 1: Like you know, I was even thinking about the cameos.

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Speaker 1: You can tell that we're all spoiled by the fact

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Speaker 1: that James Gunn is doing this because you know, in

657
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Speaker 1: Marvel Cinematic Universe, you're getting a cameo from like a

658
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Speaker 1: very very side character, like a Sydney Happerson at best,

659
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Speaker 1: and then you don't know if you're going to see

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Speaker 1: them come back in the same way. So I think

661
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Speaker 1: this really did raise the bar for that connectivity.

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Speaker 3: And I will say, you know, the Lex cameo, that

663
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Speaker 3: was one that I wasn't personally expecting. So even though

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Speaker 3: you know, people might be disappointed that there weren't a

665
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Speaker 3: million huge cameos or we didn't see Superman, I still

666
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Speaker 3: think the cameos that we did get were unexpected but

667
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Speaker 3: still serve the story and makes sense. So I think

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Speaker 3: I think he threaded the balance there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 2: So, speaking of those connections, tell us Ian and Rosie

671
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Speaker 2: what we think are going to be the directions that

672
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Speaker 2: we head to in the wider DCEU after this and

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Speaker 2: what role Checkmate and some of these you know, beginnings

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Speaker 2: of plot lines, what kind of impact they might have

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Speaker 2: on the DCEU.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me, I'll explain to Checkmate are and then

677
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Speaker 1: you can say why it seems like it's gonna fit

678
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Speaker 1: because there's I think you've joined a very We've a

679
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Speaker 1: very clear line to like how lanterns can happen. But

680
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Speaker 1: Checkmate's basically an organization from Action comics originally late eighties

681
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Speaker 1: nineteen a eight, like Paul kopperba really big moment for DC.

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Speaker 1: It's basically their by kind of secondary agency. What if

683
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Speaker 1: Suicide Squad wasn't all villains, what if they were more

684
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Speaker 1: of kind of a cover operation. So this is obviously

685
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Speaker 1: going to be a big reimagining of that, especially because

686
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Speaker 1: Checkmate was connected to Amanda Waller in the comics, and

687
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Speaker 1: this is obviously our crew. I think we can basically

688
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Speaker 1: see them outside as the more kind of the contemporary

689
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Speaker 1: version of Checkmate has also been like a un security force.

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Speaker 1: I think we can imagine our kids as kind of

691
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Speaker 1: the off the books working for the Little Man kind

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Speaker 1: of version of this team. But Checkmate has had like

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Speaker 1: tons of different people who have been on it border

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Speaker 1: peace Make a vigilante most I think interestingly for the DCU,

695
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Speaker 1: Maxwell Lord, I think that's gonna be a big thing,

696
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Speaker 1: is seeing him step in and Gunn had kind of

697
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Speaker 1: said there's not going to be peace Maker season three,

698
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Speaker 1: and what does that mean? And I think we know

699
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Speaker 1: now that it's either going to be a Checkmate series

700
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Speaker 1: or we're even going to see some other way that

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Speaker 1: they're going to bring them back in. They now have

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Speaker 1: a cool base. So Ian, what does the introduction of

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Speaker 1: Checkmate mean going forward?

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Speaker 3: So the introduction of Checkmate and Salvation specifically, I think

705
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Speaker 3: is laying the groundwork for what will be the overarching

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Speaker 3: plot of the DCU, which will be Final Crisis, which

707
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Speaker 3: was the two thousand and eight comic crossover, which was

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Speaker 3: a follow up to Infinite Crisis and then before that,

709
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Speaker 3: Crisis on Infinite Earths. So in the comic Salvation Run

710
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Speaker 3: is the name of the run. It's like a mini

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Speaker 3: series which involves Waller and Rick Flag rounding up all

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Speaker 3: the super villains and deporting them to another planet. And

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Speaker 3: as we learn in this episode in the finale, you

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Speaker 3: know the planet is supposed to be uninhabited, but there's

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Speaker 3: a little scene right at the end where the portal

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Speaker 3: closes and Chris looks around and then you hear some

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Speaker 3: kind of like creatures or animalistic noises in the back.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely giving me some kind of like their Savage

719
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Speaker 1: Land exactly, vibes like dinosaurs. Also, I do want to

720
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Speaker 1: say connection because we love to have them. Salvation Run

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Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen thousand eight actually based on an

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Speaker 1: idea by George R. Lmanton. Well, he was the one

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Speaker 1: who pitched the idea, and yeah, I mean so many

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Speaker 1: people end up there, Lex Luthor, the Joker, with all

725
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Speaker 1: the villains, with Tatwoman's you know, it's a really interesting one.

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Speaker 1: So how does it play ian into the crisis? Because

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Speaker 1: I think this is really where we start to get cooking.

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Speaker 3: So it turns out that the planet is not uninhabited.

729
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Speaker 3: It's actually a training ground for the pair Demons, which

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Speaker 3: is Dark Sides like foot soldiers. So it's like a

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Speaker 3: training planet for Dark Sided army basically. And eventually, do

732
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Speaker 3: you know, during the events of leading up to final Crisis,

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Speaker 3: the villains find a way to come back and they're

734
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Speaker 3: understandably pissed, and so that that sets up some of

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Speaker 3: the things leading into Final Crisis. But I think the

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Speaker 3: way that this is going to all connect, and we

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Speaker 3: know we have the Lantern series coming up. One of

738
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Speaker 3: the opening plot lines in Final Crisis starts with Hal

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Speaker 3: Jordan and the Green Lantern Core investigating the murder of Orion,

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Speaker 3: who's one of the New God's dark sided Sun on.

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Speaker 1: Earth bum bum. I think that that, I think is

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Speaker 1: what l is about.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, because we already know Lances is going to be

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Speaker 3: an Earth based story. It's going to be like a

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Speaker 3: true detective murder mystery. So it seems like Final Crisis

746
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Speaker 3: is the path that James gun is, you know, setting

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Speaker 3: us on. He's going to adapt that in some way.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there will be some changes from the story,

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Speaker 3: but it seems like that's where we're going.

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Speaker 1: I see that mene a lot of sense. You can

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Speaker 1: see the through line also. May it goes along with

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Speaker 1: what James has been saying, which is they're going to

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Speaker 1: do a crisis. You won't see which one is coming.

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Speaker 1: Final Crisis obviously not your most famous crisis. I think

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Speaker 1: the Orion thing is such a great pully in like

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Speaker 1: that to me, is the connective tissue you killed that

757
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Speaker 1: with putting that together because the truth is that one

758
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Speaker 1: of the strongest things about the dark Side Law and

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Speaker 1: if you have seen Fargo season four starring Chris Rock,

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Speaker 1: you will also have seen this plotline that I'm in

761
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Speaker 1: a reference because Noah Hawley's biggest influence was the story

762
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Speaker 1: of Darkseide and his sons. I think the reason this

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Speaker 1: can be set up in a way that is believable

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Speaker 1: and interesting is that when Darkseide is younger and he

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Speaker 1: has these sons, they are basically traded with another son

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Speaker 1: that and switched as a way to stop like an

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Speaker 1: intergalactic war exactly. I wonder if we are gonna see

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Speaker 1: a version where Orian was switched with an Earth based

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Speaker 1: villain's kid, and that then you have to have so

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Speaker 1: you can have it so Orian they think he's a human,

771
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Speaker 1: and then you get this reveal and let's be real.

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Speaker 1: James Gunn most of unknown for Guardians of the Galaxy,

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Speaker 1: I feel like New Gods was always going to be

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Speaker 1: on the plate, especially because of how closely they have

775
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Speaker 1: bought Tom King into this and him and Ava Deverney

776
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Speaker 1: were working for a long time on a New God's project.

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Speaker 1: I'm hoping if that's the case, bring Ava back, she

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Speaker 1: also deserves a chance. But I mean, James Gunn doing

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Speaker 1: the New Gods is the most normal, sensical thing. If

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Speaker 1: you don't know what that is. It's Jack Kirby's crazy

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Speaker 1: Fourth World from nineteen seventy one. He comes back to

782
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Speaker 1: dc decides he's going to do this explosive, super super

783
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Speaker 1: dense lore about these super tech forward deities within the DCU.

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Speaker 1: It's some of the strangest stuff in the DCU and

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Speaker 1: has some of Jack Kirby's most incredible illustration and also

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Speaker 1: some of his craziest collage work. It makes so much

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Speaker 1: sense for James Gunn, and if this is the plot,

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Speaker 1: I am going to be so much more excited for Lantern.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be crazy.

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Speaker 1: I think that is such a great care And if

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Speaker 1: he is going for Final Crisis, let's do it. I

792
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Speaker 1: think James gun can do it. And I think I

793
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Speaker 1: love that he is going for these newer comics too,

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Speaker 1: Like two thousand and eight, that's almost twenty years ago.

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Speaker 1: That's what he was reading in the comic shop, right,

796
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Speaker 1: like why not?

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Speaker 2: And I think that's I think that's the right move too,

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Speaker 2: you know, Like I think if you look at what

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Speaker 2: Marvel did, and their success they pulled mainly mainly from

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Speaker 2: stuff that happened since ultimately two thousands. Yeah, yeah, more

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Speaker 2: recent runs.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the Infinity saga is somewhat older, but it's like, yeah, really,

804
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Speaker 2: it's not that that long ago. So I think this

805
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Speaker 2: is I think this is the right movement. I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I will say yeah, oh, I was just

807
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Speaker 3: going to say, you know, Final Crisis. I think there's

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Speaker 3: still a lot of leg work to be done to

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Speaker 3: get there. I don't think we're getting that big crossover

810
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Speaker 3: event anytime soon, which is I think is how it

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Speaker 3: should be because obviously, you know, there's there's only been

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Speaker 3: three projects so far. Langards is coming, but we have

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Speaker 3: a lot of groundwork to do to get there, and

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Speaker 3: a lot of the characters that are integral to that

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Speaker 3: storyline haven't even been introduced yet. So I think, you know,

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Speaker 3: now we like have a road map, we see where

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Speaker 3: it's going. But I still think James Gunn is gonna

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Speaker 3: take his time and plant the seeds and fully flesh

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Speaker 3: out before we get there, which I think is the

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Speaker 3: right move.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys think that the big bad of Man

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Speaker 1: of Tomorrow that Lex and Superman have to team up

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Speaker 1: against is dark Side because his son was killed on Earth.

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Speaker 3: I was wondering about that. What is going to be

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Speaker 3: the impetus to cause him to work together in that movie?

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Speaker 3: Because right now, it seems like Lex is getting everything

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Speaker 3: he wants. You know, we he hates meta humans. We

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Speaker 3: know that he's working with the government. They have this

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Speaker 3: prison planet. Sensibly, I would think one of his goals,

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Speaker 3: you know, overt or not. Maybe he's keeping this to himself,

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Speaker 3: but he's obviously trying to eat Superman through that portal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, what's going to be the thing that causes him

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Speaker 3: to end up having to work together? That's an interesting question.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think it would be really cool.

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Speaker 2: I kind of hope not just because we need DC's

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Speaker 2: Rose Galleries awesome, and I think we just need more

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Speaker 2: villains for sure. I think I like to see the

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Speaker 2: roster of villains kind of Expand we haven't even tied

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Speaker 2: Batman's villains this world at all, Like we don't.

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Speaker 4: Know how that is.

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Speaker 5: Flash has one of the best rogues galleries, Like, we

843
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 5: don't even have a whish of the Flash yet, so

844
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Speaker 5: we have no idea. And so I think jumping to

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Speaker 5: dark side. While it would be cool, feels like too soon,

846
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Speaker 5: a little too soon, So I'd like to see them

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Speaker 5: expand it.

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Speaker 4: Fun season of telling me I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: Are sad that Eleventh Street kids together.

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Speaker 3: I look forward week. I really enjoyed the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, thank you so much for being such a

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Speaker 1: big part of covering it, because it's been a joy

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Speaker 1: to have you on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a lot of fun. Thank you for

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Speaker 3: having me and you know, digging into this lore and

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Speaker 3: you know, doing the deep dives every week. It's been

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Speaker 3: a lot of fun. So it's been a great season

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Speaker 3: to cover and yeah, thanks sir. Let me be a

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Speaker 3: part of it.

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Speaker 2: On the next episode of X ray Vision, we're diving

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Speaker 2: into horror movies from twenty twenty five versus two thousand

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Speaker 2: and five, oh, twenty years of horror movies.

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Speaker 4: That's it for this episode.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, Bye bye.

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Speaker 2: X ray Vision is hosted by Jason Sepcion.

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Speaker 2: A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme

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Speaker 2: songs by Aaron Kaufman.

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Speaker 1: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord, Kenny Goodman, and

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Speaker 1: Heidi Our. Discord moderate though