WEBVTT - Debt-Free For the First Time In 20 Years 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, hey, we're back and we're black and we're brown.

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<v Speaker 1>So today I broke down and I went to the orthodontist. Ooh, orthodontist.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a second, did the commenters get to U tif wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes and no. So I've always so for those who

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, I actually I had bracest when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid, well, you know, like typical teens. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably was like thirteen, fourteen, fifteen that age. But

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<v Speaker 1>I suffer from something well I don't know if it's suffer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called thunk tongue thrust. It's like sucking your thumb,

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<v Speaker 1>but not your thumb. Instead, it's your tongue. And so

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<v Speaker 1>your tongue pushes your pushes forward and you I won't

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<v Speaker 1>even notice that I'm doing it. So I do it

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<v Speaker 1>in my sleep, I do it when I'm awake. I've

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<v Speaker 1>done it since I was literally an infant. When I

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid, my parents tried to get me to stop,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's like nothing you can do because your tongue

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<v Speaker 1>is in your mouth. And so because of that, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the bracist did before, my tongue totally like undid that

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<v Speaker 1>and did some more damage. And I went to an

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<v Speaker 1>orthodontist maybe years ago, and I was like, oh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get bracest again, probably in like my

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<v Speaker 1>twenties or something. And they're like, well, it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to make any sense because your tongue threats is just

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<v Speaker 1>going to push your teeth back out. So I never

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<v Speaker 1>went back. I just you know, went to the regular dentist.

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<v Speaker 1>And then something said just ask So I actually actually

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<v Speaker 1>even considered veneers. So I'd gone to a like a

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<v Speaker 1>cosmic what is it, cosmetic dentist and they were like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't think that's a fit for you. You should go

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<v Speaker 1>back to an orthodontist. I think that other guy was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>So I did today and I went to this awesome place.

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<v Speaker 1>They were honestly so good. I mean, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>these millennials. I mean I walked in Mandy, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>am I in a coffee shop? That's what it looked like.

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<v Speaker 1>The orthodoxis. It was so cute. They had, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>Joanna Gaines has gotten to everyone. They had ship lap

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<v Speaker 1>on the walls. Can you imagine, Oh my god, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>ship lap. So no, it wasn't where was this place.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like in Harrison or something like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was super cute. Honestly, they were so professional, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I had never the way they did X rays, the

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<v Speaker 1>way they took pictures, I had never. I had never

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<v Speaker 1>gone through a process that was so easy and like pleasant.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, no one thinks of the orthodontist and things pleasant,

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<v Speaker 1>but honestly it was really pleasant. It was called n

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<v Speaker 1>A North Arlington Orthodontist Orthodontics, North Arlington. Yeah, and so

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<v Speaker 1>my doctor, doctor Jessica, she was awesome and she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I know exactly what you have. After she looked at

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<v Speaker 1>my pictures, she said, you have tongue thrust. It's not uncommon.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fishing your teeth out. And I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so is it. I mean, She's like, we could fix it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, but it's gonna go back right. She was

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<v Speaker 1>like no. She's like you, like, do you want bracelets?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like no. She was like, I think a

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<v Speaker 1>visil line is the best route for you anyway, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yes, that's like the tray, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like you can't even see them when people have them on.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like them in visil line. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They my dentist has mentioned it to me a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of times in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you don't have anything, nothing's wrong with your teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I was suspicious, man, But I think anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>continue But yeah, in vezil line, most like a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of dentists offer it now. It's like the little clear

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<v Speaker 2>plastic case that goes over your teeth, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, And so depending on how So, like a

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<v Speaker 1>friend of mine had in visil line, but her teeth. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, why do you have a visiline? Your

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<v Speaker 1>teeth are like perfect. So it was literally just a

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<v Speaker 1>few months for her to straighten out her teeth, and

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<v Speaker 1>for me, she said probably a year to a year

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<v Speaker 1>and a half. And so what happens is you get

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<v Speaker 1>they they she they use it. They don't even do

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<v Speaker 1>a mold because they're fancy. They do a laser thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And so they they're going to get the perfect shape

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<v Speaker 1>of like my like mold of my mouth with this laser,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to get trays made. And what will

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<v Speaker 1>happen is you'll wear a tray for however many weeks

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<v Speaker 1>or months until like your your teeth adjust. Then you'll

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<v Speaker 1>get the next set of trays that then adjust your

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<v Speaker 1>teeth again. And you keep you keep progressively getting trays

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<v Speaker 1>that are closer and closer to the ideal shape of

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<v Speaker 1>your teeth or ideal shape of I guess your bite

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And I was like wow, and so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she was like, you wear them twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>hours a day. Basically, you just take them off to

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<v Speaker 1>eat and brush your teeth and that's it. And so

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<v Speaker 1>what the thing that really made me happy was that

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, I said, well, what about my tongue

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<v Speaker 1>thrust and there's just kind of push my teeth back

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<v Speaker 1>out and she said, no, we could put a bonded

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<v Speaker 1>wire behind your teeth once they're where they're supposed to be,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like a wire like you know, like behind

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<v Speaker 1>my teeth. You would never know, but it will keep

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<v Speaker 1>my tongue because the wire is stronger than my tongue.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll keep my tongue from pushing my teeth back out.

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<v Speaker 1>And she said, but so she would suggested I continue

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<v Speaker 1>to wear whatever the last tray or whatever trade they

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<v Speaker 1>gave me is at night, like as a retainer at night,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was like, you by then, you'll be so

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<v Speaker 1>used to it. You just put it in before you

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<v Speaker 1>go to sleep. And you know, your teeth will stay

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<v Speaker 1>in place. And I was like, where have you been

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<v Speaker 1>on my life? I'm excited to do it, honestly, because

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing, like I I'm typically not I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I like, I was a really self conscious kid, and

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<v Speaker 1>like I wouldn't say early twenties, like teens and early twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>like really self conscious about my looks, like about my

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<v Speaker 1>skin color, about the way the texture of my hair,

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<v Speaker 1>about everything. And then somewhere in like my mid to

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<v Speaker 1>late twenties, I was like, I don't give a what

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<v Speaker 1>and I did it honestly. And then in my thirties

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like whatever, I mean, I never had

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<v Speaker 1>any lack of dates or whatever. So it but when

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<v Speaker 1>you become more in the public eye, I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get I would say ninety nine point literally

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<v Speaker 1>nine percent of like comments are positive, but definitely you

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<v Speaker 1>get someone who has something funny to say about my smile,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, and then too, I'm doing more and

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<v Speaker 1>more TV so I can see myself more where normally

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not someone who's always in the mirror, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not looking at myself. So I just said, well, Tiffany

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<v Speaker 1>if it bothers you and the budget, Lisa can pay

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<v Speaker 1>for it. I already reached out to my accountant and

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<v Speaker 1>she said he said yes, because I'm getting it specifically

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<v Speaker 1>really to present a cleaner picture for for TV and

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<v Speaker 1>speaking all that kind of stuff, so I can have

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<v Speaker 1>my business paid for it. And also to the orthodontist

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<v Speaker 1>that she said a lot of times that the companies

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<v Speaker 1>will pay for because I guess they get like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know TV personalities in there as well, and she said, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that happens a lot. So there's that. I'm actually excited

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<v Speaker 1>about it. They work really fast. She was like, we

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<v Speaker 1>could take the mold today, or we could take the

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<v Speaker 1>lasers today. And I was like, m let me because

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<v Speaker 1>at the time I had not called my accountant. So

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<v Speaker 1>I said, well, I don't want to swipe my card

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not. I'm not, you know, even though it's

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<v Speaker 1>my company. I don't want to obviously be chased down

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<v Speaker 1>by the I R S. So I'm actually going next

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<v Speaker 1>Monday and then within two to four weeks I have

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<v Speaker 1>my first tray. Isn't that crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>So how much is the invisil line? Like if you

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<v Speaker 2>were to pay out of pocket?

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<v Speaker 1>So I actually had well, I'm gonna pay out a

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<v Speaker 1>pock because like I try to use my husband's insurance.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what I thought I was going to pay myself,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was to be clear because I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>have them longer than maybe the average person because I

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot more shifting to do. So my friend

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<v Speaker 1>who got her, she hadn't had a fee a few months.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't have to pay it this much because she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have hers as long. So I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 1>share in total. This includes because I asked her about

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<v Speaker 1>teeth whitening as well, So this includes teeth whitening. And

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<v Speaker 1>the 's a lot. It's five thousand, two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>sixty dollars. You have to put down an initial down

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<v Speaker 1>payment this is for me fifteen hundred or which is

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I'm going to do, and then thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>months of payments of two hundred and eighty nine dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty four cents. But I said, I'm not going

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. Instead, I'm going to pay in full,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to join what's called the coffee Club members.

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<v Speaker 1>That means that if you come in for your checkups

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<v Speaker 1>at nine am, I guess that's when or nine thirty

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<v Speaker 1>am or two thirty pm Monday through Friday. So I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that's like, you know, they're like off peak times,

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<v Speaker 1>which I can do since I work for myself and

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<v Speaker 1>this place is only like ten minutes to my house.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say five hundred and twenty six dollars, so

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<v Speaker 1>paying in full and going during off peak times, so

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it's going to be forty seven, one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thirty four dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting, I've never heard of dentists giving you a discount

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<v Speaker 2>for coming off pick. That's cool, I know, right, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I know so I'm actually you know, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm excited and so you can get I guess

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<v Speaker 1>you get three years worth of trades, so like just

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<v Speaker 1>in case like something that's to take or I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>using it properly or whatever. But honestly, I'm excited about

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<v Speaker 1>it because I didn't realize like I could literally if

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<v Speaker 1>I would have gotten my laser today, maybe I could

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<v Speaker 1>have had them in in like two weeks. I'd be like, hm,

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<v Speaker 1>hmm before Christmas. You know what, I'm going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>before Christmas. But it's just crazy how the lesson for

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<v Speaker 1>me is asking the question because someone told me no,

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<v Speaker 1>And then for the last you know, three or four years,

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<v Speaker 1>I never questioned it. And I could have, and not

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<v Speaker 1>that I would have, like I necessarily would have gotten it,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least I would have. I never even had

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<v Speaker 1>it as an option in my mind. I said, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not an option. Someone told me no. So I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>because when we just wait until I get my grill

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<v Speaker 1>all the way together, you know, tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing your grill well, as long as it's for your

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<v Speaker 2>happiness and you're doing it to make yourself happier or

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<v Speaker 2>not because the haters told you to which I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure you're not, because I think your smile is beautiful,

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<v Speaker 2>just the way it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye. Drenda's like, I'm gonna Drina. If you guys know

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<v Speaker 1>my best friend. She said, I'm gonna miss your little gaps.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm not, no, like no, no, honestly, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I mean, like I said, I I don't

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<v Speaker 1>hate the way I look like, you know, but I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely would feel more comfortable, So I mean excited about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to get plastic surgery. It's not like

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<v Speaker 1>next up skinned.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, Jesus. I was just about to say I

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<v Speaker 2>would never say never about classic surgery because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what gravity is going to do to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to keep the option open, you know, for

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<v Speaker 2>any nips and tucks when I'm in my I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, when you're in your forties and fifties

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<v Speaker 2>and sixties, like, who cares you paid your dues, You've

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<v Speaker 2>made your money, nip and tuck all you want, boo, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm totally leaving that door open for myself. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know what kids do to your boobs?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm scared. I'm not gonna lie, you know what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think. I feel like the only reason why I

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<v Speaker 1>took Classic Soldier off the table is because I'm scared.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even I don't even want to get a tattoo.

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<v Speaker 2>But at that, when you're like in your fifties and sixties,

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<v Speaker 2>like you've lived a good life, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>why not take a little bit, take a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a risk you've had killing then why not? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just leaving the door open for my for my

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<v Speaker 2>future self.

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<v Speaker 1>If I have twins, I'm gonna be like, uh, while

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<v Speaker 1>we're here because I'm not having no work. Kids, Just

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<v Speaker 1>go hand on and do that. Tell me texts, we're

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<v Speaker 1>here already, Like, that's what I'm saying, right, I could

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<v Speaker 1>see myself doing that if you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can survive childbirth? What's a tummy tuck?

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<v Speaker 1>Evocle?

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<v Speaker 2>Did I mention anything about a pet? I was looking

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<v Speaker 2>for a good segue because we got some really funny

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<v Speaker 2>responses from our listeners after last week's show. We were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about how the like millennials, because they buy fancy

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<v Speaker 2>dog food and like cat food for their pets now,

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<v Speaker 2>have driven up the price and made it harder for

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<v Speaker 2>like the old kind of kibbles and bits type of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, your mama's cat food and dog food companies

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<v Speaker 2>to like survive today they've beenqun it harder for them anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So we asked listeners, you know, how much do you

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<v Speaker 2>spend on your pet? We want to hear your stories.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta read you this message from we got two

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<v Speaker 2>cent so listener Amelia with an a. She said, so

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<v Speaker 2>I got my cat for free on craigslist. Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>with you, but anytime we go to the vet, I

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<v Speaker 2>pay for him to get IV fluids fifty dollars. She

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<v Speaker 2>does not mention why he needs iv flush, but apparently,

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<v Speaker 2>apparently Fluffy is very dehydrated.

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<v Speaker 1>Fry.

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<v Speaker 2>I paid for him to get fifty dollars ivy fluids,

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<v Speaker 2>even if he doesn't need it, so that he's well hydrated.

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<v Speaker 2>I also get him trimmed twenty dollars, nails trimmed fifteen dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>and some cat Xanax forty dollars so he can relax

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<v Speaker 2>and take a long nap when we get home. I

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<v Speaker 2>buy him prescription food. It gets sixty dollars a month,

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<v Speaker 2>and he only drinks filtered water because I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>chemicals or minerals building up in his body. Dot dot

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<v Speaker 2>dot it continues. He also has a two hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 2>carrier that's for hiking, but she says I bought it

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<v Speaker 2>for evacuations. I live in California's big fire zones, and

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<v Speaker 2>he has his own emergency kit. Oh my god, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, like now the emergency kit, and like

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<v Speaker 1>the carrier, okay, but like like Fluffy is drinking the

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<v Speaker 1>water he needs to drink. I mean cats are like

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm thirsty, I shall drink that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not in mineral water. I mean to each her own.

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<v Speaker 2>I just you know, no judgment zone. We said, shares

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<v Speaker 2>your stories, no judgments.

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<v Speaker 1>Ohah, no judgment. I mean let me real it on back.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, god do you but cat's dan x No, but

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<v Speaker 2>for real cat like my dog, he used to take

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<v Speaker 2>half a He had to take half a a clariton

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<v Speaker 2>every day because he had allergies. Like pets take human

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<v Speaker 2>medicine and it's it's it costs, like human medicine costs too.

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<v Speaker 1>So I didn't know that cats take human medicine.

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<v Speaker 2>They can if they have anxiety. And just like Fluffy here,

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<v Speaker 2>I made up the cat's name. I don't know the

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<v Speaker 2>cat's name. Forty dollars an x so he can relax

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<v Speaker 2>and take a long nap on me get home, because

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<v Speaker 2>it's stressful getting ivy fluids and your hair traids.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't cats like what is his life of mind?

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>Listener Martisia said that she's listening to the most recent

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<v Speaker 2>pot Cash. She says, Luckily we've not had to spend

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<v Speaker 2>a crazy amount of money on her family's pug, which

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<v Speaker 2>she's had for ten years. She says, but like anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>Owning a dog is a financial decision, but owning a

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<v Speaker 2>pet adds an emotional component. They're not humans, but when

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<v Speaker 2>faced with a decision about their health, more than likely

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<v Speaker 2>you would pay. So make sure you understand the financial

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<v Speaker 2>responsibility involved. Keep on top of their health to avoid

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<v Speaker 2>major expenditures. Thanks for the question. Okay, Martitia, come in

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<v Speaker 2>with the realness. I mean, if preventative care is important,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, keeping the dog healthy and groomed and

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff, I guess it can save you money

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<v Speaker 2>down the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I'm not even you know, like you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I had a cat and even though like

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't like super fancy because I didn't have any

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<v Speaker 1>money and I was a teenager, it was it was expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, I remember like having to like I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get her neutered Spade or I don't know, she

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<v Speaker 1>was a girl, so I don't know if there's a

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<v Speaker 1>difference between Spade and neuter, but yeah, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>like a few hundred dollars or a couple hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>and like it was. I remember my dad really wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to teach me responsibility because I wanted a got so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember thinking, like and I got the cheap's

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<v Speaker 1>like no name, like whatever food. She haded that food

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<v Speaker 1>so much she went out. She was killing mice in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the in the the the forest we had

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<v Speaker 1>like we lived by like some woods. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>so you sho just go ahead on and find your

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<v Speaker 1>own food. Huh all this good food I got for you?

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, Like my poor cat did not even have

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<v Speaker 1>like you know how like cats have like the I

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<v Speaker 1>guess the litter box. Who had money for a little box?

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<v Speaker 1>I had one of the silver trays.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I was thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have any money. I was like, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get you one as soon as I say, with my

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<v Speaker 1>next allowance. So yeah, no, but I mean eventually, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we upgraded her. But then she ran away to go

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<v Speaker 1>live with the neighbors, and I said, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well good bye, because she was living like a cat hobo.

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<v Speaker 2>She take pan. Oh my, was like, this is not

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<v Speaker 2>the American dream.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember she used to like literally run away for

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<v Speaker 1>like weeks, and we like, where did you go? It

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<v Speaker 1>turned out she was living with the names. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>she was trying them out. And then one day I

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<v Speaker 1>was walking by. I thought she ran away, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, what happens? And I walk by and

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<v Speaker 1>I hear her me out so familiar. I look in

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<v Speaker 1>the window and she's in the neighbor's house looking at

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<v Speaker 1>me like, just say, hi, girl, don't worry about me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good with a new collar and everything all inside

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<v Speaker 1>the house. Because my dad hated for her to be

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<v Speaker 1>like inside too much, I'd have to seek her in.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just said, you know what, you look like.

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<v Speaker 1>You look well fed, You look good, girl, You look good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny. That's brown ambition right there, cat ambition. She

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<v Speaker 2>got out of a bad situation.

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<v Speaker 1>She said, she upgraded her life. Yes, so it's time

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<v Speaker 1>fuck question Johns questions questions to begin? Any good questions?

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<v Speaker 1>Will we always get good questions?

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<v Speaker 2>Always? We have a few good questions this week? Which

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<v Speaker 2>one shall I pick my first victim?

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<v Speaker 1>Dun? Dun, dun.

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<v Speaker 2>How about this from a new listener. Her name is

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to pronounce me to try and pronounce this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a pretty name. Okay, She says, I'm a new

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<v Speaker 2>listener and I love the podcast. I have a loaded question,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'll try to simplify it. I'm a medical professional,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty four years old, earning approximately approximately one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thousand dollars a year. I want to know if

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<v Speaker 2>a financial planner would be good for me. My goal

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<v Speaker 2>is to pay off my one hundred and twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars student loan debt and start saving for retirement.

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<v Speaker 2>But I have a few hurdles. I'm paying off two cars,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to remodel my house soon. I'll also

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<v Speaker 2>be paying for my son's college tuition. Help where do

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<v Speaker 2>I start?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you list some of the things again that she

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<v Speaker 1>has financially.

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<v Speaker 2>So, she's a medical professional making one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars solid salary, and she wants to know if

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<v Speaker 2>she needs a financial planner. Basically, she has one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty five thousand dollars a student loan debt, but

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time she wants to start saving for

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<v Speaker 2>retirement and remodel her house. But in addition to having

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<v Speaker 2>that one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars student loan debt,

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<v Speaker 2>she also so has two cars apparently she's paying off.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna guess maybe one belongs to her teenage son.

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<v Speaker 2>So she wants to know, well, a financial planner help

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<v Speaker 2>her kind of get a handle on things so she

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<v Speaker 2>feels like she's saving for the future and also paying

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<v Speaker 2>down her Debtah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, well, honestly, I think a financial a financial

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<v Speaker 1>professional is always a good idea, honestly because if you

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<v Speaker 1>have questions, I feel like, you know, I've been struggling

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<v Speaker 1>to find like the perfect one. Just because you can

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<v Speaker 1>make a lot of money, But it doesn't mean that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need to just kind of tap someone on

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<v Speaker 1>the shoulder and ask for some professional advice, because to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it just sounds like you need someone to help organize

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<v Speaker 1>in what order do you want to put your financial priorities.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no judgment on that. It's just like asking kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, well, what's most important and then putting it

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<v Speaker 1>in an order and then working on it in that

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<v Speaker 1>particular order based upon what you're what your goals are.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like to me that the least not I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say least important, but maybe least kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like urgent is the house renovation, because I'm assuming of

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<v Speaker 1>the cars, she's paying the car off or she's getting.

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<v Speaker 2>A fixed paying two cars off two and she wants

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<v Speaker 2>to start saving for her son's college. This is like

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<v Speaker 2>a classic example. I feel like what a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people in their mid thirties are going through right now,

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<v Speaker 2>and she has a kid on top of it, is like,

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<v Speaker 2>I have this debt, but I also have my future

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean kid's future to figure out how do

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<v Speaker 2>I start? I think this is exactly this is exactly

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<v Speaker 2>when you'd want to bring in a financial professional because

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we can sit here and try and help

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<v Speaker 2>you prioritize, but financial professional is actually going to look

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<v Speaker 2>at everything with your entire financial picture. And especially for me,

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<v Speaker 2>what's been nice for my financial planner is she helps me.

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<v Speaker 2>She helps give me perspective on She always reminds me

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<v Speaker 2>the reality of my finances and reminds you that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not actually broke in destitute like I think I am

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<v Speaker 2>in my brain. And she also shows me how to

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<v Speaker 2>make the money work for me and how to strategically

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<v Speaker 2>shift priorities around. And you know, you may be overlooking

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<v Speaker 2>some methods or some options that you have to help

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<v Speaker 2>you pay off your debt or help you finance a

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<v Speaker 2>remodel of your house affordably that maybe a financial planner

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<v Speaker 2>can help you find those options that maybe you can't

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<v Speaker 2>you haven't been able to think about because you're juggling,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so many things. So I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>good idea.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, you want to make sure that you're taking

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<v Speaker 1>care of your your your retirement, like I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>you to not have that that's critical.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and certainly saving for retirement before you you know,

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<v Speaker 2>put money away from your kid as typically advice, but

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<v Speaker 2>again financial professional, good idea. I found my planner through

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<v Speaker 2>x Y Planning Network which I think it's x Y

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<v Speaker 2>Planning Network dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>But google it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll put a link to it in the show notes

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to check them out. That's where I

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<v Speaker 2>found my planning. I think their planner network. It's basically

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<v Speaker 2>a network of planners to specialize or who have experience

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<v Speaker 2>working with people in generation X or Y hence a name,

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<v Speaker 2>and you might be able to find someone there or

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<v Speaker 2>ask around to friends see if they have anyone they

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<v Speaker 2>could refer you to. As far, the best thing about

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<v Speaker 2>what I like about x Y Planning is the planners

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<v Speaker 2>there are fee only, so they typically charge a flat

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<v Speaker 2>monthly rate for their services and you don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you don't have to worry about hourly or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, getting some sort of percentage of your future

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<v Speaker 2>earnings tied to their pay. Their their fee only, fee based,

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<v Speaker 2>and they typically will charge maybe upfront for the financial

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<v Speaker 2>plan if you if you want one, or they'll give

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<v Speaker 2>you a flat rate for a conversation or some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of advice counseling session.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for your question.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a very good question. I wish more people,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, thought to seek outside help because I think

0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:51.760
<v Speaker 1>people feel like, as an adult, I should know, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no, well do you know how to speak Mandarin?

0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:56.240
<v Speaker 1>They're like no, I'm like exactly, because some one taught you.

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<v Speaker 1>So if someone didn't teach you, then you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to know automatically. Seeking help is really a good idea

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to your money.

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<v Speaker 2>CO sign one hundred percent. Okay, this last question, this

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<v Speaker 2>is specifically when I think TI if you can definitely answer.

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<v Speaker 2>It also comes from someone who says that she's been

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<v Speaker 2>stalking you for years. I think she means that in

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<v Speaker 2>a non creepy way. This anonymous listener says, I've been

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<v Speaker 2>stalking you for years. I really appreciate your transparency and

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<v Speaker 2>your journey due to life situations and unforeseen circumstances. She says,

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<v Speaker 2>I am back at a nine to five after being

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<v Speaker 2>an entrepreneur. This is really hard. My personalities, my personality

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<v Speaker 2>tests always say I'm an entrepreneur. My question is do

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<v Speaker 2>you have any suggestions on how I can adjust back

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<v Speaker 2>to nine to five life? What benefits do I need

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<v Speaker 2>to take advantage of from a company? Do I keep

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<v Speaker 2>my free healthcare or buy into the companies? Also? How

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<v Speaker 2>do I ignore my entrepreneurial or urges and just work.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so scary to think that this corner office will

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<v Speaker 2>be my space for a few years or more.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess the question is do you have to?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I didn't get more. Well, thanks first of

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<v Speaker 1>all for the lovely stalking. You know I don't mind it,

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, so, here's the question is that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure why you had to go back. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>because you're paying off debt? Is it because you know

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<v Speaker 1>your business maybe didn't do as well? So because it

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<v Speaker 1>might be the option. This is what I recently told

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<v Speaker 1>my sister because she's really wanting to. She styles me

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<v Speaker 1>and she like buys all my clothes, but she also

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<v Speaker 1>has been styling my friend's photo shoots. And she's really good.

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<v Speaker 1>She works really hard. It's not easy. It's not just hey,

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<v Speaker 1>where this. It's like going to the mall, buying and

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<v Speaker 1>putting together like sixteen different outfits, tagging them, taking picture

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<v Speaker 1>like it's a lot. And so she really wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>do this, and she's gotten opportunities. But she's got a

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<v Speaker 1>regular full time job, which is actually an alignment. She's

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<v Speaker 1>a buyer. But she's realizing she's at a cusp now

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<v Speaker 1>because she's getting opportunities that are happening more and more

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<v Speaker 1>during her full time job hours. And what I told

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<v Speaker 1>her was to get what I call a waitressing job,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not actually waitressing. Well, one thing I told her

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<v Speaker 1>is that she has to decrease her living expenses. And

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<v Speaker 1>so that's one of the things she's gonna do. She's

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<v Speaker 1>actually considered. I'm so sure she's listening, like all my business, Tiffany,

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<v Speaker 1>all of it. I told her. She's had her beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>apartment for like a number of years. She's going to

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<v Speaker 1>give that apartment up and look for something less expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>I told her. I even told her, like when me

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<v Speaker 1>and Superman to finish renovating because we have a second floor,

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<v Speaker 1>a bedroom with its own bathroom that she could stay

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<v Speaker 1>with us for a number of months and now have

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<v Speaker 1>to pay you in and save and in that time

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<v Speaker 1>of reducing her expenses finding that waitressing job, which is

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<v Speaker 1>just a it's just basically a gig, meaning a job

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<v Speaker 1>that pays the bills but allows you the flexibility to

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<v Speaker 1>go after your dream. And so that's what she's doing now.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm asking that because I'm like, do you is

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<v Speaker 1>there a reason that you have to that have this

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<v Speaker 1>nine to five job? And if there is, then you

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<v Speaker 1>can still have an entrepreneurial spirit. Like look at Mandy,

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<v Speaker 1>you can still have an entrepreneurial spirit within your nine

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<v Speaker 1>to five. I don't think that you ought to kill

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<v Speaker 1>you know, your entrepreneur dream. It's just how can you

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<v Speaker 1>do that where you are? And you know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>what it's like not to have any insurance. I only

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<v Speaker 1>have insurance now because I'm married. But gobble it up.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like, get every teeth tooth clean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>go to the guy, know goes through the eye doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>Just get everything done. But yeah, just consider figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>how to make the most of it, how to make

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<v Speaker 1>the job on your own if you must stay there,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you don't have to stay there and you

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<v Speaker 1>want to get back in the entrepreneur game, consider, reconsider

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<v Speaker 1>how you can find something that will allow you to

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<v Speaker 1>do both.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I hope that you found a job that

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<v Speaker 2>encourages entrepreneurial spirits and has ways to help you work

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<v Speaker 2>on special projects if you want to one thing, that

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<v Speaker 2>one thing that I've heard companies do and it's something

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<v Speaker 2>that I thought about doing for my team here, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to as we get bigger and we're we're able

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<v Speaker 2>to have enough people on staff so people have more time.

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<v Speaker 2>Is to to tell your you know, tell people take

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<v Speaker 2>five percent of your day, like I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>much with that percentage comes out to you, like half

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<v Speaker 2>an hour or something. And and think big like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>read read stories, think about a big idea, think about

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<v Speaker 2>a big project that you'd like to see happen. And

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<v Speaker 2>then once a month or to give them an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to pitch an idea for something they'd like to own.

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<v Speaker 2>And maybe if you're at a company like that, you

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<v Speaker 2>can start looking for ways. I mean you're just settling

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<v Speaker 2>into a new job, but start looking for ways that

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you can scratch that itch of wanting to own

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<v Speaker 2>your own project or lead your own team. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>only you can figure out if it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a good fit for you long term. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you definitely don't want to, you know, wake

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<v Speaker 2>up a few years from now and then really regret

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<v Speaker 2>giving up on, you know, a business idea that you had,

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<v Speaker 2>or or a business that you had that you struggle

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<v Speaker 2>to get off the ground. Keep keep at it. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Tiff, I think how long did it take

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<v Speaker 2>you to get budget needs to to like a profitable

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<v Speaker 2>place where you could say, Okay, this business is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>feed my family for years to come. It takes a while,

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<v Speaker 2>all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So, like I actually registered the Budgetee in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight, did nothing for like really two years.

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<v Speaker 1>Well two and eight, I did nothing. Two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>nine I volunteered a lot just to figure out what

0:27:16.520 --> 0:27:19.200
<v Speaker 1>was I even delivering. Twenty ten I started to get

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<v Speaker 1>I'm serious, And that's when I was making about five

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars a year. But the bugisa so twenty ten nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eleven nothing, twelve nothing, thirteen, Hey, I can pay

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<v Speaker 1>this five hundred dollars a month room that I'm renting

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<v Speaker 1>twenty fourteen, you know a little bit better. It really

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<v Speaker 1>didn't start making a decent amount of money until I

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<v Speaker 1>would say twenty sixteen, when I was like, okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I was like in the either the low six

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<v Speaker 1>figures or high five figures, so not a tremendous amount

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<v Speaker 1>of money. And then it started to do you know better,

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're now we're seven figure. We were seven figures

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<v Speaker 1>last year, double that this year, still seven figures and

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<v Speaker 1>on tasks to be eight figures in two thousand and nine. Team.

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<v Speaker 1>But think about that, that's like what six years of

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<v Speaker 1>like not really making enough, and you know, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>and it's not abnormal. Honestly, I have so many friends

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<v Speaker 1>who are entrepreneurs, and it's the only thing, honestly that

0:28:14.040 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 1>kept me going because I thought maybe something's wrong with me,

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:18.760
<v Speaker 1>because you read all these stories about people who grew

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 1>a billion dollar business in six months. But when you

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:24.680
<v Speaker 1>speak to like regular day to day entrepreneurs, you start

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<v Speaker 1>to realize that that's part of the journey. But you

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<v Speaker 1>learn to find the joy in the journey. So even

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<v Speaker 1>when I wasn't making a lot, it wasn't just about

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<v Speaker 1>that I was trying to create something that was going

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<v Speaker 1>to help women, so I and living simply didn't bother

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<v Speaker 1>me because I'd lost everything during the recession anyway, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I've been broke, broke, this is this has

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>broke light. You know, at least I have a room

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<v Speaker 1>versus like sleeping with my parents in my parents' house.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I finding something that can you could keep

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<v Speaker 1>pushing even during the rough times. It is critical when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to entrepreneurship, if you ask me, But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it can certainly take their people ten years in that

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<v Speaker 1>are still struggling and they don't give up because they

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<v Speaker 1>really believe in their vision. You know, the guy what

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<v Speaker 1>is that, Oh, a Kickstarter? This is great. I forget

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>the gentleman's name that started it. It like he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even get started for eight years. He worked on the

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:22.320
<v Speaker 1>website eight years before he even launched. Can you imagine

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<v Speaker 1>eight years and then he launched kickstarter and then it

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<v Speaker 1>did well, But eight years of just driving things down

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<v Speaker 1>on a piece of paper. So just know that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's part of the journey sometimes for some people, for

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<v Speaker 1>many people.

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<v Speaker 2>That reminds me of Ava Duvernet, who she like was

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<v Speaker 2>doing a Twitter thread recently and she talked about how

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't do her first movie until she was well

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<v Speaker 2>into her thirties and really only found success now she's

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<v Speaker 2>in her forties and she's kind of a household name.

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 2>But it took took a while. I gobble stories like

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<v Speaker 2>that up just to get through, Like even through my twenties.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, please tell me someone else, you know,

0:29:56.640 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 2>he hasn't had to figure it out either. And I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, I definitely have an entrepreneurial spirit, and yet

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm at a corporation. I'm a nine to fiver. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you how why I'm happy and perfectly content

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<v Speaker 2>where I am. And it's one I'm able. I have

0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 2>the flexibility to launch something of my own with this

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:15.560
<v Speaker 2>podcast a few years ago, and you know, my company

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 2>has supported that and let me continue doing This is

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<v Speaker 2>my baby, our baby, and this is entirely our own

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<v Speaker 2>independent projects, and I've been able to do that on

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<v Speaker 2>the side. Also, I found that working for a startup

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<v Speaker 2>really scratched that itch for me because it made me

0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 2>feel like I was no. I wasn't the entrepreneur, the

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<v Speaker 2>co founder of the company, but I came in I

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 2>was like employee number four, and I was an integral

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 2>part of growing the company, getting us acquired had equity.

0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 2>I felt like I was a part of growing something

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 2>and building something, and I continued to feel that way. So,

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, if you're out there and you want the

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 2>sustainability of a nine to five, but maybe something that

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 2>also lends itself to entrepreneurialism, working for a smaller startup

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 2>in a growing industry is one way to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not going to lie to you and pretend

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<v Speaker 2>like I had it all figured out and I was

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<v Speaker 2>completely sure it was all going to work out for

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<v Speaker 2>me when I joined the startup that I did a

0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 2>couple of years ago. I mean, I was sweating a

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<v Speaker 2>hord hord horde for a while a while, but I

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<v Speaker 2>took the I took the leap and luckily it worked out,

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<v Speaker 2>but that it definitely made me feel like a bit

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<v Speaker 2>it scratched that it's for me of like a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of riskiness, but still you know, able to put

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<v Speaker 2>food on the table, and I'm fortunate that that's been

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<v Speaker 2>working out for me. And I hope that you've I

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<v Speaker 2>hope that you're at a place at least where you

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<v Speaker 2>feel like you can spread your wings a little bit

0:31:29.040 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 2>and still be entrepreneurial, even though it's not the maybe

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 2>the vision you had of your of your career at

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 2>this point in time. But hang in there. Thank you

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 2>for your question, good questions.

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<v Speaker 1>These are are questions. That's the new one.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that Save it again.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know these are questions. It's it's the

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<v Speaker 1>Usher song, but I don't know the rest of the words.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not enough syllables in questions. That song is called Confessions.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Oh, I'm turning into my father, messing up. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably too young. But there's a song called from Madonna, Papa,

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<v Speaker 1>don't preach. You know that song? I mean, yes, well

0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 1>you know you I mean girls. Right. So meanwhile, when

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, my dad was like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>like that song by dad Madonna. And I'm like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>what he said, you know this song copper tone I

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<v Speaker 1>mean love. I'm like, wait, what, excuse me? What's sir?

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<v Speaker 1>This man said copper tone cream. And it's clear by

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<v Speaker 1>the way that I butcher songs. I am his daughter

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm becoming him copper tone cream.

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<v Speaker 2>He thought it was a nice jingle for some sunscreen.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to do that story worse for your dad's

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<v Speaker 2>stat I need to hear his story.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye, I do, I do. I am gonna do it

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like yes, because these stories are amazing copper

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<v Speaker 1>tone cream. I'll never forget he was singing it like

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<v Speaker 1>just with joy during his heart and and just sureness

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<v Speaker 1>and confidence in his voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh damn. Okay, Well, you guys can send us your

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<v Speaker 2>confessions or questions at Brian Ambition Podcasts at gmail dot com,

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<v Speaker 2>or hit us up at Brianambision podcast dot com. Ask

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<v Speaker 2>us Okay, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I can ed.

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<v Speaker 2>I can edit out those awkward pauses. It's okay, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>don't through the jingle.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait is that for me? Dot com? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you started us. You almost like create the

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<v Speaker 2>problem for me. I feel like whenever I say dot com,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta wait, give you a give you an opening anyhow,

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<v Speaker 2>Brianimission podcast dot com. Ask us anything, Send us your questions,

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<v Speaker 2>grateful for this year? Maybe that's a good prompt for

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<v Speaker 2>next next episode. What are you grateful for in twenty eighteen?

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<v Speaker 2>Start thinking about what you want for yourself in twenty nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to hear from you. What's Oh, we're not

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<v Speaker 2>done yet.

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<v Speaker 1>My bad brown boots, brown break, brown boots, bown break.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready, you know. Actually, I think I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>a boostand and break, just like a really short one.

0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:09.040
<v Speaker 1>So I'm just gonna take a break from cooking for

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving because one I don't I know, but it I

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<v Speaker 1>know because I'm just like, I'm tired of the judgment that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because I get it the old school mama,

0:34:21.480 --> 0:34:23.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, she did the whole spread and made everything

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:27.720
<v Speaker 1>herself and slaves all day in the kitchen. And meanwhile

0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm down at the at Vanda's like, hey, Vonda. She

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 1>actually because I waited till last minute. So Wanda is

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<v Speaker 1>a friend of mine who owns a soul food restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>in Newark. I waited till last minute. I was like, ooh,

0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:39.759
<v Speaker 1>can I get a turkey for She's like, oh, girl,

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:42.120
<v Speaker 1>we went out turkeys. I said, well I have. If

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.240
<v Speaker 1>I bring the turkey, can you cook it? Can you imagine?

0:34:44.280 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 1>And that's exactly what my parents are eating and my

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.520
<v Speaker 1>my siblings we are going to eat a Vonda cooked

0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 1>turkey from her delicious restaurant and one that I am

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:53.839
<v Speaker 1>getting and bringing to her.

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<v Speaker 2>It's nice to have a friend in the business.

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<v Speaker 1>No, because she's well, she's actually she's cooking, like you know,

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 1>part of during the soul food restaurants tend to like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're making dinners for Thanksgiving for people. But

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<v Speaker 1>it just so I was just making a normal order.

0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:09.960
<v Speaker 1>And so when she was like, well, we ran out

0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 1>of turkeys, I was like, well, what if I bring one?

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Because I was like, I already told my mother I

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:18.560
<v Speaker 1>was providing the turkey. So she said, okay, So that's

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<v Speaker 1>my break from cooking for Thanksgiving, although I do not cook,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe from non cooking judgment.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, just to break. Just to add into this, Whole

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:30.879
<v Speaker 2>Foods does a catered Thanksgiving dinner. I got the most

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:33.719
<v Speaker 2>delicious pie at Sam's Club for eight ninety nine that

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 2>could have fed a small army, and I brought that

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<v Speaker 2>to you like a friend. I brought that to Friendsgiving

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't have a kitchen right now. Please, I

0:35:39.719 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 2>wasn't going to cook anything, so shortcuts are okay. Everyone

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 2>loved that pie. You know what, people don't even eat

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:47.400
<v Speaker 2>all the pie anyway, Like why slaves? No one I

0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 2>think people ate like a fraction of that pie that

0:35:49.239 --> 0:35:51.480
<v Speaker 2>I brought. I didn't care because it was eight ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't cost me any trouble back.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, I'm gonna I'm gonna buy it. I like. I honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I really do like Whole Foods pie. So tomorrow in

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:00.840
<v Speaker 1>the morning, I'm gonna get my Whole Foods on because

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>we go to my parents and then we go to

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>a superman's sister's house and so she was like, bring pies.

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I was like, gotch girl. And then my boost. Did

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you about my student loans?

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<v Speaker 2>No, wait, I'm not in a while. We haven't heard

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<v Speaker 2>about them in a while.

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<v Speaker 1>So, you know, so I'd gotten some of them forgiven,

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 1>but I still had like a you know, a lump

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<v Speaker 1>sum like cause I had fifty three thousand dollars worth

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<v Speaker 1>of student loans and I was eligible for I think

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<v Speaker 1>like seventeen thousands of got to be forgiven. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>am happy to report I have paid off the ballance.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the first wait, I need like a little

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't know what I need. I need a

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<v Speaker 2>sound effect.

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<v Speaker 1>So since the first time since I was seventeen, I

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<v Speaker 1>am completely dead free because when I was seventeen, I

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<v Speaker 1>took out my first student loan and then I paid

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<v Speaker 1>it off. But then I then like kind of crossover,

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I got my got student loans for my master's. My

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<v Speaker 1>undergrad was I didn't take out much money because I commuted,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think I had I don't know, like maybe

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>like just a few thousand dollars. So I paid that off,

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<v Speaker 1>got my master's, another student loan, then got a condo,

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<v Speaker 1>then got into credit card debt, and so you know,

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 1>it was one thing after another, and I have not

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<v Speaker 1>been debt free since I was seventeen. Maybe there was

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<v Speaker 1>like a month or two maybe between student loans, but

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<v Speaker 1>now because I had a condo, so it just feels

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<v Speaker 1>really good. It feels good like I'm debt free. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean not for long, because Superman and I are going

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 1>to have to take out like a construction loan for

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the second property we bought, but still at least for

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<v Speaker 1>the next I want to say six months, I am

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<v Speaker 1>debt free. I don't own any credit card debt I

0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:39.120
<v Speaker 1>paid off in full every month, no student loan debt,

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>we don't have any mortgages. My car's paid off in full.

0:37:42.800 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I feel like fifteen again.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, no, congratulations, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have never thought so. For those of you

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 1>who are like, I'm so broke. At one point, I

0:37:51.719 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 1>was saving five dollars a month. That's how broke I was.

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 1>So it is possible to dig yourself out of the

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<v Speaker 1>ditch of debt, and and you know financial just like

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:07.479
<v Speaker 1>you know dark places, it is possible, and so yeah, yeah,

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm just like, well, I don't even feel

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:11.440
<v Speaker 1>real because I've been broke. I'm so broke for so long.

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna lie. I still feel broke. It's not

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:15.920
<v Speaker 1>not broke, like I know that we're not broke, but

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:20.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like super secure, like we're good. I

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:25.759
<v Speaker 1>feel like any day now, any day now. But yeah,

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like I said, that's why I paid off

0:38:27.239 --> 0:38:29.279
<v Speaker 1>all the day because it probably wasn't the wisest I

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 1>probably should have invested it and all that other kind

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. But part of me is also like, I like, knowing.

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<v Speaker 2>Peace of mind is worth something. How my financial planner

0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:39.600
<v Speaker 2>told me that too. She was like, maybe it doesn't

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:41.399
<v Speaker 2>make sense to pay off your student loans when well

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:43.479
<v Speaker 2>and one fell swoop. This is back when we're paying

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:45.840
<v Speaker 2>off my husband's but she said, if it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>help you sleep better, it is valuable.

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:50.400
<v Speaker 1>It is because I just wanted to know that, like

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:53.840
<v Speaker 1>my and honestly, Superman was like I want like he

0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 1>wants to know, and I want to know that, like

0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:59.680
<v Speaker 1>even if everything goes away, that we can afford our life.

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Like if I if the Budgetnista and the Literature Academy

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:04.879
<v Speaker 1>everything were to like go to hell in a hand

0:39:04.920 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>bastic basket, you would never know because I would still

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 1>be wearing my same target clothes. I would still be

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 1>driving my twenty sixteen car that I you know, I

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 1>bought used. I would still like it, like life wouldn't change,

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>and so and that's what I'm wanting that, like how

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 1>we live life is not based upon like whether or

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 1>not the business is super successful. It's as long as

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<v Speaker 1>I'm you know, we are doing mildly well, we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>able to maintain our lifestyle, which is fairly simple because

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:34.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not moved by those things anymore because I've lost

0:39:34.640 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 1>them and I know that you know, they can be taken,

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:40.439
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't mean that much to me. It's really

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:44.439
<v Speaker 1>like family. Honestly, that means the most and friends. So yeah,

0:39:44.520 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm mixed. But I'm happy though, to be debt free

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:47.600
<v Speaker 1>for now.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. Meanwhile, I am just digging myself into a

0:39:51.520 --> 0:39:54.440
<v Speaker 2>little bit of a hole over here. I'm becoming very

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:56.840
<v Speaker 2>acquainted with debt. But I'm I was actually going to

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<v Speaker 2>do a boost about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you? Are you? God? Yeah? I am gone?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so good segue.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Credit.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked a little bit about the way that we're

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<v Speaker 2>using credit cards for a home renovation, and I'm like,

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of I'm like feeling myself with my credit card

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:12.560
<v Speaker 2>strategy lately. I have to say I'm glad that I

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:15.479
<v Speaker 2>waited until now to start. I really was anti credit

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:17.319
<v Speaker 2>card for a long time. I really only started using

0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 2>credit cards consistently for all my spending. I only really

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:24.880
<v Speaker 2>felt comfortable doing that probably two years ago. I started

0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 2>doing that. And you have to be really diligent, because

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 2>I have to make sure I set my own budget

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<v Speaker 2>in my head for how much we can afford to

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:34.239
<v Speaker 2>spend each month on our credit cards, because only then

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 2>will it actually make sense for us to try and

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 2>get these rewards if we can afford to pay them

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 2>off in full. Otherwise you're just paying interest and blah

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:42.120
<v Speaker 2>blah blah. You guys listen to the show, you know

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:46.280
<v Speaker 2>those things. Anyway, So recently, you know, with the home renovation,

0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 2>we've everything that we paid for cash. You know, we

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:51.239
<v Speaker 2>paid for all the renovation cash and we even paid

0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:53.880
<v Speaker 2>for we got Actually, we actually found paying cash for

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:56.319
<v Speaker 2>home renovation can actually help you save money.

0:40:57.040 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 1>We saved like fifteen.

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:01.279
<v Speaker 2>Hundred dollars on our countertop by paying cash for them.

0:41:01.400 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 1>We were able to.

0:41:02.080 --> 0:41:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Negotiate the price of our cabinets down by paying cash.

0:41:05.320 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 2>So it's come to our advantage to have cash on hand.

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 2>But when it comes to things like the furnishings, especially

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:13.440
<v Speaker 2>because we're about to get ready for holiday. We are

0:41:13.480 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 2>hosting people for the holidays, so we need to have

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:18.800
<v Speaker 2>everything all at once. Okay, not everything, but like a couch,

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:22.279
<v Speaker 2>a bed, you know, a spare bed and everything. A

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:26.280
<v Speaker 2>lot of places do have good zero percent financing offers.

0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:28.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that we're opening a credit card at

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:30.919
<v Speaker 2>every retailer. We haven't done that. But when it came

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 2>to getting a mattress, they had a zero percent financing deal.

0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 2>We could have paid for it in cash. But I'm

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 2>more concerned now about keeping our cash flow, keeping a

0:41:40.200 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 2>nice cash flow, so we're not completely obliterating everything that's

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:47.279
<v Speaker 2>not our emergency fund, you know. So I'm willing to

0:41:47.320 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 2>do zero percent financing because we have great credits, so

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 2>we get qualified for those offers. If they're going to

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 2>give you zero percent and let you pay something down gradually,

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:57.960
<v Speaker 2>you know when I can. I can pay it off

0:41:57.960 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 2>when I get my tax refund or when I get

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:01.879
<v Speaker 2>my bone, you know, or even if I don't get

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:04.160
<v Speaker 2>a bonus and tax refund if you know, again, if

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:06.360
<v Speaker 2>the worst happens, you know, I'll still get a paycheck

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 2>and I can pay it off with my monthly income.

0:42:09.040 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 2>So we've been taking advantage when we can of a

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 2>couple of zero percent financing offers through retailers. But then

0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:19.400
<v Speaker 2>also I mentioned using the City Double Cash card to

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 2>get two percent cash back on non like on everyday purchases,

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 2>which helps us for furniture and things like I don't know,

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 2>or pro paining things that you can get cash back

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:35.280
<v Speaker 2>for typically Okay, I also recently opened up a zero

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 2>percent interest purchase credit cards. So some credit cards offer

0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 2>zero percent APR for a promotional period on new purchases.

0:42:44.680 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 2>So we just got a proof for a zero percent card,

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I will say it was through Chase. It's called I

0:42:51.040 --> 0:42:52.080
<v Speaker 2>forget what it's called. I don't want to.

0:42:52.080 --> 0:42:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>If the Chase has a bunch of cards, they all

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:59.719
<v Speaker 2>sound the same anyway, zero percent interest on purchases. Initially

0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:02.440
<v Speaker 2>they did not want they did not immediately approve me

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 2>for the card. Not because my credit wasn't great. I

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<v Speaker 2>know it's great, but because some credit card issuers are

0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 2>doing this where if you have several cards with the

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:14.239
<v Speaker 2>same bank, they actually they're trying to avoid people who

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to game, like open up credit cards, get

0:43:16.400 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 2>the sign up bonus, close the card, keep it, you know,

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 2>keep it moving. So they like Chase, for example, they're

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<v Speaker 2>known to have this rule called the five twenty four rule,

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<v Speaker 2>where if you open up more than five Chase credit

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<v Speaker 2>cards within a twenty four month period, you may you

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<v Speaker 2>probably won't get approved for the card, no matter how

0:43:32.280 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 2>great your credit is. So I think I have four

0:43:35.320 --> 0:43:38.120
<v Speaker 2>Chase credit cards now. So when I got that email,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know we can't approve your we can't approve

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<v Speaker 2>you right now, you will hear within thirty days, I

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:45.880
<v Speaker 2>was like, na brat, I need a couch by Christmas.

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 2>So I called their hotline and I was able to

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<v Speaker 2>get them to not only immediately approve me on the phone,

0:43:52.840 --> 0:43:55.520
<v Speaker 2>but expedite so I get the card on Friday versus

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:58.000
<v Speaker 2>having to wait seven to ten days. And I just

0:43:58.040 --> 0:43:59.840
<v Speaker 2>had to keep asking. They weren't offering this to me.

0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 2>They were just like, you know, even at the point

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<v Speaker 2>when I finally got.

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<v Speaker 1>Them to approve me.

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<v Speaker 2>Then then she was like, Okay, thank you, have a

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<v Speaker 2>nice day. And I was like, wait a second, how

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<v Speaker 2>long does it take to get the card? She said

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:10.319
<v Speaker 2>seven to ten days. I was like, can I get

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:12.360
<v Speaker 2>it by Friday? And then she was like beep.

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<v Speaker 1>Boop, beep boop. Sure.

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:19.239
<v Speaker 2>So just shows you can ask. Do I feel And

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<v Speaker 2>again like, yes, I'm talking about, you know, willfully putting

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<v Speaker 2>things on a zero percent interest credit card to keep

0:44:27.320 --> 0:44:31.200
<v Speaker 2>our cash flow, you know, in pretty decent shape. I

0:44:31.239 --> 0:44:33.600
<v Speaker 2>feel confident in this. But I'm just saying it's just

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to use debt in a smart way to

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<v Speaker 2>my advantage, which I think is the whole point of

0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 2>having a strong credit score, so you can take advantage

0:44:42.000 --> 0:44:45.239
<v Speaker 2>of these types of offers. And I'm feeling good so far.

0:44:45.360 --> 0:44:48.359
<v Speaker 2>And I have a plan. Helen will be happy.

0:44:48.400 --> 0:44:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I have me.

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:51.360
<v Speaker 2>I have my plan to pay it off, and I'm

0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:55.240
<v Speaker 2>repeating that plan to myself so I can can sleep

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:58.480
<v Speaker 2>at night. But you know, so far, so far, I'm

0:44:58.480 --> 0:45:01.440
<v Speaker 2>feeling I'm feeling good, and I'm be that. You know,

0:45:01.520 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 2>there are if you're if you have good credit and

0:45:03.600 --> 0:45:06.360
<v Speaker 2>you're able to find these offers, there are good you know,

0:45:06.480 --> 0:45:08.879
<v Speaker 2>credit card deals out there if you if you can

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:09.920
<v Speaker 2>find them.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's awesome, and honesty, I was thinking about that,

0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:14.359
<v Speaker 1>you said. I was actually typing it to myself. You said,

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<v Speaker 1>The City.

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<v Speaker 2>City Double Cash card is the one that I've used

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<v Speaker 2>for because they give you one percent cash back when

0:45:23.400 --> 0:45:25.880
<v Speaker 2>you make a purchase and then give you one percent

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:29.000
<v Speaker 2>cash back when you pay off your balance, so it's

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 2>really two percent cash back. And there's no there's very

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 2>few cards. I think there's maybe a few other smaller

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:37.600
<v Speaker 2>credit cards. I'm credit Union cards that give you two

0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:40.480
<v Speaker 2>percent cash back on anything. And the reason I got

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:42.720
<v Speaker 2>that card is because, yes, I have a three percent

0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:45.759
<v Speaker 2>cash back card on you know, restaurants, but you can't

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:48.160
<v Speaker 2>use that at home depot to get cash back, right,

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:51.280
<v Speaker 2>So that's why I got the flat rate anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>City double Cash because you know I'm the worst. I'm like,

0:45:53.200 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 1>City Double Dutch, get your cash in the hand. Card.

0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:58.920
<v Speaker 2>We talked about this card before we did.

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I know, And I'm like, I totally did that because

0:46:01.200 --> 0:46:03.160
<v Speaker 1>I was googling, and I'm like, oh, I need to

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 1>get the exact name from Mandy because you know I'll

0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:08.759
<v Speaker 1>be out here like venture into the woods because you're

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:10.680
<v Speaker 1>going to chase me down. Card, you should get it.

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:15.319
<v Speaker 2>And one thing too, is like zero percent credit cards,

0:46:15.360 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 2>the risk, okay, I know the risks is deferred interest.

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:20.080
<v Speaker 2>That's a risk. If I don't actually pay off this

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:23.000
<v Speaker 2>zero percent APR card that I just got within twelve months,

0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:24.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get hit with deferred interests. It's going

0:46:24.880 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 2>to pretend like I was getting charge interest from the

0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:28.880
<v Speaker 2>beginning and they're going to slap it all in my

0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 2>card all at one time. But I know I can

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:32.600
<v Speaker 2>pay it off before that twelve months is up. That's

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 2>the only reason I'm doing it. And at the end

0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 2>of the day, it made more sense to do and

0:46:37.200 --> 0:46:38.960
<v Speaker 2>in my mind to do this versus I could have

0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 2>gotten a personal loan. You know, the best rates for

0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:43.840
<v Speaker 2>a personal loan right now are like, what six percent,

0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:46.480
<v Speaker 2>but six percent is still more than zero percent. So

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 2>for me, it made more sense to take advantage where

0:46:50.040 --> 0:46:52.520
<v Speaker 2>I can at these zero percent offers. We're still we

0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:54.560
<v Speaker 2>still have our budget for what we're paying for on

0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:57.440
<v Speaker 2>the credit card, and we're not like going bananas, but

0:46:57.800 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's serving my purpose right now, and I'm

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 2>trying to do it in the smartest way possible.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but I know, I I think because people ask.

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not a huge you know, credit card advocate,

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:12.839
<v Speaker 1>but I am a huge If you're gonna use credit cards,

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:15.200
<v Speaker 1>use them wisely. So I think this is good because

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:18.080
<v Speaker 1>you're using you know, you're using your credit because like

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:20.919
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna buy these things anyway, it's happening. We're here now,

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:24.040
<v Speaker 1>so it's like, well, how can I maximize you know,

0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:27.640
<v Speaker 1>the fact that we're renovating, you know, So it's like

0:47:27.680 --> 0:47:30.080
<v Speaker 1>if I'm gonna cause you're gonna be spending tens of

0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:31.799
<v Speaker 1>thousands of downs that's just how much it costs. And

0:47:31.840 --> 0:47:34.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like you can you can get a free flight

0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:36.000
<v Speaker 1>out of it, you can get cash back, there's so

0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:39.239
<v Speaker 1>many benefits. So I think what you're doing is super smart.

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like there's there's good cards out there. I mean,

0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:43.160
<v Speaker 2>if you're not earning, if you're using credit and you're

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:45.080
<v Speaker 2>and you have good you have a good credit score

0:47:45.080 --> 0:47:48.439
<v Speaker 2>like seven sixty or higher, seven forty or higher. Even

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 2>like if you don't have a rewards card, you're kind

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 2>of missing out, you know, unless you're doing it because

0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 2>you know yourself and you've been in debt before, you

0:47:56.640 --> 0:48:00.399
<v Speaker 2>don't trust yourself. That's fine. But if you're responsible and

0:48:00.440 --> 0:48:02.080
<v Speaker 2>you can pay your card in full, like you might

0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:04.319
<v Speaker 2>as well make a little make some make some like

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:07.040
<v Speaker 2>shush on the top, get some sprinkles.

0:48:07.160 --> 0:48:10.719
<v Speaker 1>No, you're right, because you're right because if you're if not, like,

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 1>if you're someone who uses your card responsibly, then you

0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:16.359
<v Speaker 1>know there's literally it's almost like not using e baits, right,

0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:20.400
<v Speaker 1>It's like so if you gotta shop online, ebates is

0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:23.279
<v Speaker 1>free and literally just says, hey, you bought that thing,

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:27.240
<v Speaker 1>here's three percent of your money back, so use e baits,

0:48:27.280 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 1>you know. So it's just like one of those things.

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:32.319
<v Speaker 1>So it doesn't there's certain things that just doesn't make

0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:34.200
<v Speaker 1>sense not to use when it comes to your finance.

0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. All right, Well that's my brown boost. I guess

0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 2>that was for just credit cards in general, working them,

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:45.200
<v Speaker 2>work in the system, trying my best not to pay

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:47.920
<v Speaker 2>them one penny, but collect all the pennies for myself.

0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:52.399
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, do it.

0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:54.799
<v Speaker 2>We'll have a good Thanksgiving.

0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Enjoy not cooking, right, And I was gonna say, enjoy

0:48:59.640 --> 0:49:03.320
<v Speaker 1>my join Vanda's turkey and I'm here. We're gonna have

0:49:03.360 --> 0:49:05.800
<v Speaker 1>a good time, yes, but have a good Eata lasigna

0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:07.960
<v Speaker 1>for me. I love Lazangna. Honestly, I will.

0:49:07.840 --> 0:49:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Bring you some because you know, I'm like, to some

0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:11.799
<v Speaker 2>tolerant girl, I can't eat Asanna. My poor mother in law,

0:49:11.960 --> 0:49:15.120
<v Speaker 2>she's like, she's like, you're still you still can't eat cheese? Yes,

0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:17.400
<v Speaker 2>that is how the body works.

0:49:17.840 --> 0:49:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of been paying for life. But you know,

0:49:19.440 --> 0:49:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I'll let you know.

0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:23.120
<v Speaker 2>She's like, I love it, but it's mozzarella. I'm like, no,

0:49:23.360 --> 0:49:24.360
<v Speaker 2>not even mozzarella.

0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I love that shit. You still cheap. I guess if

0:49:27.520 --> 0:49:29.520
<v Speaker 1>one day body's like, you know, a girl, okay, I

0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:32.520
<v Speaker 1>don't want to get you that cheese.