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Speaker 1: there so much to get to gentlemen, how are you
Speaker 1: doing on this fabulous football Friday. I'm great, great to hear,
Speaker 1: I'm fantastic, Bill, all right, So it's a fabulous. It's
Speaker 1: a fantastic it's a football Friday, and it's beautiful weather
Speaker 1: here in Frisco, Texas. I want to be with the
Speaker 1: the kids on the day trips here, yea, the field trips. Yeah, great,
Speaker 1: school kids walking. There's a whole bunch of activity around
Speaker 1: the Star today. I want to field trip. I never
Speaker 1: got to do something that cool kid age man, No kids,
Speaker 1: star wasn't here. But we never did anything. So what
Speaker 1: did you do for a field trip? We went, Oh,
Speaker 1: I can't even remember what we did. That was cool.
Speaker 1: We went to the planetarium. Them It's high school had
Speaker 1: a planetarium in Irving and we went to the planetarium,
Speaker 1: so we looked at the stars. That was the only
Speaker 1: field trip I can ever remember. We got to take
Speaker 1: bus trips to downtown Chicago and go to the Museum
Speaker 1: of Science and Industry, the Field Museum, and the planetarium.
Speaker 1: By the way, those who are our field trip and
Speaker 1: you had to bring a brown bag lunch, right, yep,
Speaker 1: that's what they used to call it. Okay, it's a
Speaker 1: brown bag lunch edition of a fabulous football field trip Friday.
Speaker 1: They didn't take us to the White Sox game or anything. Okay,
Speaker 1: enough of that. Let's get into Cowboys and Lions or
Speaker 1: do we start with Thursday night football and what happened
Speaker 1: at the end of that game last night? Oh? Boy,
Speaker 1: did you see it live? No? I saw it this morning. Actually,
Speaker 1: my Aggie Buddy is in some hot water up there
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Yes, Smiles Garrett who For those of you
Speaker 1: who don't live in the North Texas area, he is
Speaker 1: from the Dallas Fort Worth area, went to Martin High
Speaker 1: School in Arlington. In fact, in twenty thirteen he was
Speaker 1: our Landry Award winner as the top high school football
Speaker 1: player in North Texassman of the Year. And it is
Speaker 1: sponsored by the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. And you know
Speaker 1: they did announce the thirty two nominees for the Art
Speaker 1: Rooney Sportsmanship Award yesterday. I'm not sure who the Browns
Speaker 1: representative is, but I doubt it's it's Byrett Jones for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I don't know who. So showed you want
Speaker 1: to I didn't see it. I turned the game off.
Speaker 1: I said, this is over. You haven't heard about it.
Speaker 1: You have seen it. I've read it about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe blamed everybody would happen. Well, there it is for
Speaker 1: those of you watching along here on Dallas Cowboys dot
Speaker 1: Com and Texas twenty one. You'll see it again right
Speaker 1: there as um Miles Garrett pulls the helmet off Mason
Speaker 1: Rudolph and swatch him over the top. Of the head
Speaker 1: with it. So I have a funny story for you.
Speaker 1: Oh do you? Yeah? Just so happened today's UM T shirt.
Speaker 1: Remember we get a different T shirt. I'm a former
Speaker 1: player or whatever, and today is Randy White. If you
Speaker 1: guys can make that out, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: can or not. So nineteen eighty can't pull it out
Speaker 1: of the bag and show that it's a T shirt.
Speaker 1: It's probably all plastic and tid and so nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: five preseason game, August, that's right, So Roys there at
Speaker 1: Texas Stadium playing the Chicago Bears, and the Bears at
Speaker 1: that time were actually the tough guys, right, So I
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys thought, well, we better show him we're tough.
Speaker 1: So first quarter, first quarter they get preseason of a
Speaker 1: preseason game, they get into a tussle. Randy White, by
Speaker 1: the way, the Manster and Keith van Horn of the
Speaker 1: Bears get into this little tussle and Randy yanks his
Speaker 1: helmet off, and then Mark Boards n yeah, and Mark
Speaker 1: Boards comes over to help Van Horn, and Randy takes
Speaker 1: the helmet and bops him on top of the head
Speaker 1: like that video of that, like the same thing, like
Speaker 1: but his helmet was on, though Boorts's helmet was on.
Speaker 1: He used Van Horne's helmet. Okay, he didn't use it
Speaker 1: on Van Horne's head. He used it on boards, right,
Speaker 1: And so a big melee starts. He gets kicked out
Speaker 1: of the game. I was gonna say, back then, it
Speaker 1: probably wasn't even a penalty. Well here's what happened. So
Speaker 1: to show you how times have changed, Randy got kicked
Speaker 1: out of the game and he got fined one thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, Now we're talking about this guy being thrown
Speaker 1: out of the league for the rest of the year.
Speaker 1: Right at CBS eleven, we have video of that. And
Speaker 1: basically when Randy was on our Cowboys game day show
Speaker 1: on Sunday, bring it out Sunday. That's exactly right. Unfortunately
Speaker 1: Randy's not on the show. Oh that's right anymore, but
Speaker 1: we can still bring it out. And so the very
Speaker 1: next play ed two Tall, Jones and Van Horn get
Speaker 1: into it and two Tall's got a death grip on
Speaker 1: his face mask and he's pulled it right. Uh. Five
Speaker 1: Bears got fined three hundred dollars in that game, and
Speaker 1: I think there was three Cowboy players. Find three hundred dollars,
Speaker 1: but Randy got fined a thousand thousand dollars. So I
Speaker 1: remember as what his salary was in Oh right, yeah,
Speaker 1: uh and and so uh afterwards, the next day in
Speaker 1: the locker room or the next time we were in
Speaker 1: the locker room, Brandy's telling the story, right and what
Speaker 1: happened and why he got all mad and John Dutton
Speaker 1: sitting in there, and John Dutton has the loudest baritone
Speaker 1: voice you ever hear, right, And all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Dutton goes, well, Randy, why don't you tell him the
Speaker 1: rest of the story. And Randy's like, now, we don't
Speaker 1: need to get into that. He goes, oh, yes we do.
Speaker 1: Randy yelled at him when he left the field, and
Speaker 1: I'll meet you in the parking lot after the game.
Speaker 1: Sounds like Randy White. Yeah, that's that's exactly right what
Speaker 1: Randy would always say. I'm just glad social media there
Speaker 1: was a there stories of the Pro Bowls stories in
Speaker 1: Hawaii or oh that was the next year. Yeah, pretty remarkable. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely so. And the played one more time, remembering the
Speaker 1: stories before the game, We're all fight's going to break
Speaker 1: out or whatever. So this was the Bear Super Bowl
Speaker 1: year they play beat sweatswin, the Bears collectively pulled the
Speaker 1: Cowboys helmets off and being forty four to nothing. U
Speaker 1: and that was a NFC East Division winning team, by
Speaker 1: the way. Oh yeah, yeah the Cowboys were that year. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: didn't play like it that day, all right. So the
Speaker 1: standard in nineteen eighty five was a thousand dollars no suspension.
Speaker 1: What is the standard in two thousand nineteen? You think
Speaker 1: for Miles Garrett, what do you think he's going to get? Well,
Speaker 1: the report I think from Adam Schefter just a minute
Speaker 1: ago and this is this morning minimum rest of the season,
Speaker 1: including playoffs suspension, so that six games left in the
Speaker 1: regular season. More than that. I think that's what ESPN report.
Speaker 1: If they played ten games, they're four and six. They
Speaker 1: played ten, that's right this week. Yeah, so they've got
Speaker 1: six games left. And well, that's what the dude got
Speaker 1: for Gerard's face grading Albert Hayes did he get? I
Speaker 1: think I looked it up and it said five games
Speaker 1: suspension somebody when we were talking, I was thinking it
Speaker 1: was six, but then I looked at I googled it
Speaker 1: and it said five. So we were there for that
Speaker 1: one that was six in Tennessee and the boy that
Speaker 1: was a nasty cut that Andrea got because the guy,
Speaker 1: if you guys don't know, he got up and Andre
Speaker 1: was on the ground without his helmet and he stepped
Speaker 1: on his face with his cleats. I'm looking at an
Speaker 1: ESPN story from two thousand and six and it says
Speaker 1: he got an unprecedented five spension. Okay. I was thinking
Speaker 1: last night when it happened, and I think, on all
Speaker 1: of these you need to and this is a reason
Speaker 1: that the league gives it. A few days before they
Speaker 1: announced a suspension, to make sure that he cover everything
Speaker 1: and you let the emotion of the moment pass. Also,
Speaker 1: I was thinking, you know, people were saying, oh, you
Speaker 1: got a suspendion for the rest of the season, and
Speaker 1: I thought, well, it's at least the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: The question is how far into next season does he go.
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking last night, and especially in
Speaker 1: lieu of what happened earlier in the game when the
Speaker 1: guy got hit in the head with the helmet, jew
Speaker 1: helmets from each side and he was bleeding. A couple
Speaker 1: of receivers for the Steelers got it and they were
Speaker 1: targeting plays. I didn't see them myself, but he got
Speaker 1: hit twice, once from their left side, once from the
Speaker 1: right side. I was just thinking about from us as
Speaker 1: a from a reporting standpoint, and you're in the press
Speaker 1: box and that happens. Everything that's happened the last three
Speaker 1: hours is meaningless, you know, the narrative of that game.
Speaker 1: Nobody cares about what happened. How about for the Browns,
Speaker 1: they now have two straight wins, They're up to four
Speaker 1: and six, and they're thinking they got Miami in ten days,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be five and six, and they're getting gonna
Speaker 1: make this great playoff push. And they just lost their
Speaker 1: best defensive player. Yeah. And you know in lieu of
Speaker 1: the NFL is so sensitive to the concussion matter, right,
Speaker 1: and and Mason Rudolph had the the the concussion just
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. That's right. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you just they can't have that in their game. They
Speaker 1: just can't do it. And I just imagine if somebody
Speaker 1: did that to Dak Prescott, the uproar in Dallas. And
Speaker 1: by all accounts, Miles Garrett, like I said, he went
Speaker 1: to a and m everybody says great things about its poetry.
Speaker 1: He lost it, you know, he lost it, and and
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna pay for it with a heavy fine
Speaker 1: and suspension most and a lesson to quarterbacks who might
Speaker 1: get their helmet yanked off. Don't go back at the game.
Speaker 1: That's that's another element of that. He was going back.
Speaker 1: They've got to look at it as well. All right,
Speaker 1: we get more into that, and we get into Cowboys
Speaker 1: and Lions when Talking Cowboys continues in a moment to
Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys cow Boys continues now as we get you
Speaker 1: ready for the Cowboys and the Lions and the breaking
Speaker 1: news across the National Football League as we speak regards
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett and the incident last night. And I'm just
Speaker 1: poring over some tweets that are coming out right now.
Speaker 1: You had seen something rob a moment ago about the suspension.
Speaker 1: In fact, I've got it right here. The Steelers and
Speaker 1: Brown's organization organizations have each been fined two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars and three players, Cleveland's Miles Garrett and
Speaker 1: Larry Ogan Jill hopefully, oh Joby was the one that
Speaker 1: shoved off in the back. Route off in the back.
Speaker 1: After it all happening in Pittsburgh's Marquise Pouncey had been
Speaker 1: suspended without pay for their actions and Thursday Night's game.
Speaker 1: Garrett has been suspended without pay indefinitely at a minimum
Speaker 1: for the remainder of the regular season and postseason, and
Speaker 1: must meet with the Commissioner's office prior to a decision
Speaker 1: on his reinstatement. He was also fined an additional amount.
Speaker 1: Garrett violated unnecessary roughness and unsportsmanlike conduct rules, as well
Speaker 1: as fighting, removing the helmet of an opponent and using
Speaker 1: the helmet as a weapon. Pouncey has been suspended without
Speaker 1: pay for three games, so he will not be there
Speaker 1: unless he is able to appeal it and get it
Speaker 1: shortened when the Browns head to Pittsburgh here in a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, and he was fined an additional amount
Speaker 1: for fighting, including punching and kicking an opponent. Ogan Joby
Speaker 1: has been suspended without pay for one game and find
Speaker 1: an additional amount for unnecessary roughness, specifically for shoving an
Speaker 1: opposing player to the ground during an altercation. Additional discipline
Speaker 1: for other players will be forthcoming through the standard accountability process,
Speaker 1: including those players that left the bench to enter the fight. Area.
Speaker 1: Under the CBA, these suspensions may be appealed within three
Speaker 1: business days appeals or heard and decided by so on.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're probably appealed by later today. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: got a malice at the palace field to it with
Speaker 1: all the everything they're going to hand out punishment wise,
Speaker 1: and again it's for a league that's so focused on
Speaker 1: players safety, they've got to send a message here, right,
Speaker 1: And it's obviously quickly because of the notoriety of the
Speaker 1: incidents on national TV time. I mean, they had to
Speaker 1: and I thought that makes sense as far as the
Speaker 1: Garrett one, suspend indefinitely without pay for now and then
Speaker 1: you do your hearings and everything and figure it out
Speaker 1: now for sure for the rest of the season. Then
Speaker 1: see what happened not Jason Garrett, just in case you're
Speaker 1: joining us from break, Now, what was Poundcy's three games?
Speaker 1: And but what did he do? Well, he kicked He
Speaker 1: was kicking at Garrett when he was down on the ground. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, so Mma, Yeah, that's basically what it was.
Speaker 1: The other part of it, you know, there was just
Speaker 1: eight seconds left in the game. I mean, when you
Speaker 1: look at the at the context of it. You know,
Speaker 1: that's why I turned it off. Yeah, the game was over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: does that happen? It was just beginning. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: I learned that lesson long time ago. Don't ever leave
Speaker 1: a game early, and don't ever turn it off early
Speaker 1: because you never know. Yeah, but I do think is
Speaker 1: Mickey brought up Albert Haynesworth in the last segment that
Speaker 1: was the previous most notable on field rage incident and
Speaker 1: the five game suspension in two thousand and six for Haynesworth. Well,
Speaker 1: this has now become the largest suspension for a player
Speaker 1: for an on field behavior. Andre better watch out, not
Speaker 1: like walk past the locker room. Everybody's interview. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: exactly right. Yep. Who's by the way here If guys
Speaker 1: don't know, he's a kind of assistant assistant coach on
Speaker 1: the field, working within the scouting defensive lineman defensive line. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. All right. So yes, injuries Cowboys and Lions,
Speaker 1: and how about anything we've got on the injury front there, Well,
Speaker 1: we know that Matthew Stafford sounds like he is out.
Speaker 1: Is that what Matt Patricia has announced reportedly, Although we'll
Speaker 1: see the injury report today see if they actually rule
Speaker 1: him out come out later today. Sounds like he hasn't
Speaker 1: practiced all week. I know he didn't practice Wednesday and Thursday,
Speaker 1: and if that came out today, probably didn't practice again.
Speaker 1: An hour ago, Mike Rothstein tweeted matt Patricia said he
Speaker 1: doesn't anticipate Matthew Stafford playing this weekend, So that means
Speaker 1: Jeff driscoll. You know, they've got some other injuries that
Speaker 1: they've got to deal with. Two they're starting safety Tracy
Speaker 1: Walker hasn't practiced all week with the knee, and earlier
Speaker 1: in the week his backup Miles Killerbrew was out with
Speaker 1: he was limited with a concussion. Now it says here
Speaker 1: he was full yesterday, so he must have got cleared.
Speaker 1: They're running back now. They're down to Ty Johnson. He's
Speaker 1: got a concussion, rookie, sixth round draft pick out of Maryland, Okay,
Speaker 1: and he didn't practice Wednesday, was limited yesterday. So today
Speaker 1: I bet they're looking to see if he had any
Speaker 1: ill effect from practicing, and if he can't go then mckissic,
Speaker 1: I think Ji I wouldn't have known his first names.
Speaker 1: Thank you, A converted wide receiver. I believe they're starting
Speaker 1: one of their starting tackles. Rick Wagner has been out
Speaker 1: these last two games with two days with a concussion,
Speaker 1: so Tyrell Crosby filled in for him fifty six snaps
Speaker 1: a week ago, and he is a fifth round draft
Speaker 1: pick last year ready to go right. And then uh
Speaker 1: DeShawn hand one of their backup defensive ends with an ankle.
Speaker 1: He didn't practice UH either day, so he may be
Speaker 1: out also, So that, yeah, they've got some UH injury problems.
Speaker 1: They get a deal with every team in the right
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, are you got something? Well, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: mention Driscoll. Watching the Bears game last week Detroit against Chicago,
Speaker 1: I thought he did some nice things. Um, he didn't
Speaker 1: have much practice time during the week, but I thought
Speaker 1: he was pretty poised back there, and they did some
Speaker 1: things to kind of get him comfortable move in the pocket.
Speaker 1: I bet with a full week of practice, if he
Speaker 1: does in fact start, he'll probably be a little more comfortable.
Speaker 1: And he's made starts in the league. Um, but when
Speaker 1: you they have guys they can go get the football
Speaker 1: for him. They really do. I mean, we we've mentioned
Speaker 1: some of them during the week Danny Amon Dola, who
Speaker 1: was here before he started his you know, terrific career.
Speaker 1: Galladay is like this generation's version of Calvin Johnson in
Speaker 1: terms of just a big, explosive wide receiver. He leads
Speaker 1: the league against wide receivers in touchdowns with eight with eight.
Speaker 1: I mean you talk about a red zone target, he
Speaker 1: can just go get it. Marvin Jones can do it
Speaker 1: too high. And Marvin Jones is a big receiver too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: both are arrange receivers. This is why the Cowboys invested
Speaker 1: in draft picks and guys like Cheeto and Byron to
Speaker 1: be able to go up against bigger receivers like this. Hawkinson,
Speaker 1: the tight end was highly regarded coming out of college.
Speaker 1: They've got They've got guys they can they can go
Speaker 1: get the football. Like you said, though, guys, you know
Speaker 1: the running game without carry On Johnson, they haven't found
Speaker 1: stability there. Oh man, I heard the guy interviewed this
Speaker 1: morning on the fan. He does basically that for the
Speaker 1: one of the Detroit radio stations. I was thinking I
Speaker 1: was going to pick the Cowboys twenty four twenty one
Speaker 1: to win. By time that guy got done, I was
Speaker 1: up to thirty one seventy was a negative Melo the
Speaker 1: lion mad. He was just killing them, killing them. They
Speaker 1: can't do this, they can't do that, They're this, they're that.
Speaker 1: Ownership's horrible, they don't have any players, and he went
Speaker 1: on and on and on, and I'm going, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: could it be that bad? Well, and you know, they've
Speaker 1: played nine games and they're three to five and one,
Speaker 1: and eight of their nine games have been decided by
Speaker 1: a touchdown or less. But you had Matthew Stafford for
Speaker 1: the first eight games. Now, now, having said that, last
Speaker 1: week they played Chicago and they lost by a touchdown,
Speaker 1: So that continued that trend. But if you have followed
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears football here in the last month or so,
Speaker 1: then you know that they have not been an offensive
Speaker 1: juggernaut to say the least. And they scored all of
Speaker 1: twenty points this game. Boy, that was an outbreak for them,
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah. So the key thing here with Driscoll
Speaker 1: is do not let him get comfortable in the pocket.
Speaker 1: You got to go get him. I don't want to
Speaker 1: see a Sam Darnald thing again. Where he's back there,
Speaker 1: you know, looking around and around. Got time to throw
Speaker 1: a ninety two yard touchdown pass. They got to get
Speaker 1: after Driscoll and make him uncomfortable and be mindful of
Speaker 1: his ability to scramble. You know he did. They'll do
Speaker 1: design runs and he'll also scramble for yards. He let
Speaker 1: him in rushing last week, So I mean that kind
Speaker 1: of that says a lot about you know, the running
Speaker 1: game has not been what they wanted, but he can do.
Speaker 1: Cowboys actually had him at the Senior Bowl in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: coaching him as part of the North squad, so they're
Speaker 1: somewhat familiar with him. So he interviewed that guy that
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and Jeff Driscoll who finished up his college
Speaker 1: career at law Tech after starting it at Florida, and
Speaker 1: of course Dak Prescott was on the other sideline that week.
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Speaker 1: Frisco dot com. I was on Tostito's Championship Plaza last evening,
Speaker 1: in fact, hosting a high school football playoff preview show,
Speaker 1: and it felt like Christmas around there. You know, the
Speaker 1: the Christmas tree was all lit up, the blue Christmas
Speaker 1: tree that they have on the plaza there. There was
Speaker 1: a high school game going on inside Forward Center and
Speaker 1: it's just a great place to come throughout the holiday
Speaker 1: season and get that feeling of the holidays. Anybody throw
Speaker 1: any footballs at you, well, yeah, there's kids there. It
Speaker 1: was chilly though, I mean it felt like it was
Speaker 1: about thirty degrees, but it was fifty degrees once the
Speaker 1: sun goes down. You know, it was pretty chilly out there,
Speaker 1: but those kids were running around. They love playing on
Speaker 1: that field on Tostitos Championship Plaza. That tree looks amazing.
Speaker 1: It looks like you're in you feel like you're in
Speaker 1: Rockefeller's Center or something. It's it's something to go see it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you got the hotel there, and you've got all
Speaker 1: the restaurants and bars and so forth. It's just a
Speaker 1: great place to come. I was thinking, you know, does
Speaker 1: downtown Dallas still have their New Year's Eve um celebration
Speaker 1: down there in Victory Plies. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: still have that. I don't think I'll throw this idea
Speaker 1: out that would it would be a great place to
Speaker 1: have a New Year's Eve celebration here at the Star
Speaker 1: in Frisco. Have some fireworks. I bet you get a
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Speaker 1: I'm just keep in mind the first to suggest that
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve at the Star in Frisco. Okay, they've
Speaker 1: got a lot of room there. Yeah, you could have
Speaker 1: an event going on because you got you also have
Speaker 1: indoors where you could have things going on inside Ford
Speaker 1: Center as well. And if they could construct a tree
Speaker 1: that big, they can figure out how to drop a ball.
Speaker 1: Drop a ball, just drop a football. Right. Well, now,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go there which too easy. Careful,
Speaker 1: be careful. There have been players of the past who
Speaker 1: could perform that for you. There. Oh boy, all right,
Speaker 1: we're going to your phone calls as well. Eight eight, five, five,
Speaker 1: two two nine seven. Get your thoughts on this Cowboys
Speaker 1: Lions game. And how big a game is this? I
Speaker 1: mean you think about, um, the Patriots next week. You
Speaker 1: know it's a Cowboys team. They set it too soon, Stephen,
Speaker 1: just watch Yeah, okay New Year's Eve at the start,
Speaker 1: just set it again. Um, but it's just a huge
Speaker 1: game for the Cowboys. Yes, no, no, I was, I
Speaker 1: was looking at the injury report. Um for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Well you can go to go there to get it there.
Speaker 1: But you know, everybody you know asking if this is
Speaker 1: a must win, But I think it's a need to
Speaker 1: win game. You know, mathematically it's not a must win.
Speaker 1: You got you know, still got seven games to go.
Speaker 1: But I think they need to win this one in
Speaker 1: lieu of what's coming up after it, having to go
Speaker 1: to New England playing the Bills on a short week
Speaker 1: and then have to go to Chicago. So you would
Speaker 1: like to do that two games above five hundred and so, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a game they need to win, specially after
Speaker 1: coming so close last week. You don't want that to
Speaker 1: start being a trend. It's a need badly to win.
Speaker 1: It's not must win. And we'll see what happens with
Speaker 1: Philly the rest of the way. Obviously, these teams meet
Speaker 1: again December twenty second. I think, and I very well
Speaker 1: could decide to the division. But right now, you got
Speaker 1: to take care of business, and Philly seems to have
Speaker 1: found something, so you got to think they're not going
Speaker 1: anywhere in this division race Billy. Yesterday we were talking
Speaker 1: on the show, how if you look at the numbers
Speaker 1: with this Cowboys team. Statistically, they're doing a lot of
Speaker 1: things right. You know, they got the top ranked offense,
Speaker 1: they got a top seven defense, they're getting off the
Speaker 1: field on third down, they're converting third downs. They just
Speaker 1: haven't put consistent games together across the board, with the
Speaker 1: exception of a game like Philly right before the buy.
Speaker 1: They're capable of it. If they can do that, they
Speaker 1: can beat anybody in this league, and that includes the
Speaker 1: Lions the Sunday, that includes at New England next week.
Speaker 1: But they've got to find that consistency, not just from
Speaker 1: the start, from the finish as well in every phase.
Speaker 1: Cowboys are practicing inside forward center as we speak. In
Speaker 1: the first team offensive line today, left tackles Tyrann Smith,
Speaker 1: the left guard Xavier sue A Philo, the center Travis Frederick,
Speaker 1: the right guard Zack Martin, and the right tackle Il Collins.
Speaker 1: It's a good sign, he said. Collins was going to
Speaker 1: do something today, so that's encouraging that those guys are
Speaker 1: back out on the field like that. Cameron Fleming is
Speaker 1: also practiced this week. Remember he missed the last two
Speaker 1: games straining a calf during the bye week, so that's encouraging.
Speaker 1: And I'm told that the backup guard now with sue
Speaker 1: Field starting will be Joe Looney, and they'll have Looney
Speaker 1: able to back up in both spots, and that might
Speaker 1: and probably save them one guy on the forty six
Speaker 1: because they've been keeping eight offensive lineman, which is usually
Speaker 1: one more than necessary. They may be back to seven
Speaker 1: now in this game. So Amari Cooper's been practicing and
Speaker 1: he was supposed to do a little something again today,
Speaker 1: so they'll get him to the game. C J. Goodwin
Speaker 1: was out early in the week. He was limited yesterday,
Speaker 1: so that was encouraging. I think the one guy that's
Speaker 1: somewhat a question at this point, and we know Connor
Speaker 1: Williams is out right. He had his knee scope. That's
Speaker 1: why Bill said. Sue of Philo was at left guard.
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath's been dealing with not only that cut up
Speaker 1: knee which has cut up really bad, but the shoulder.
Speaker 1: And it was the shoulder that kept him limited in
Speaker 1: this past game against the Vikings to just special team's duty.
Speaker 1: They took him off the field on at free or
Speaker 1: at strong safety. It's both shoulders, right man, Yeah, both
Speaker 1: shoulders he's having and I heard that it's something they're
Speaker 1: going to have to deal with the rest of the season,
Speaker 1: So be interesting to see what he's able to do
Speaker 1: in this game. Darien Thompson took over for him in
Speaker 1: that game against the Vikings, so he would be next
Speaker 1: man up if he can't go, and he had sixty
Speaker 1: six snaps against the Vikings last week. Darry and Thompson did,
Speaker 1: and I like, yeah, he basically played the whole game
Speaker 1: because what Heath played ten snaps on defense last week.
Speaker 1: I like what I've seen from Darry and Thompson. He's
Speaker 1: flashed and he's in his opportunities to play. Of course,
Speaker 1: he played earlier in the season against the Giants when
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods was out. People ask us a lot a
Speaker 1: lot about Donovan Wilson, the rookie safety, Why doesn't he
Speaker 1: play more? Darion Thompson's the reason because they like his experience.
Speaker 1: They like how he's a good decision maker back there,
Speaker 1: and he plays pretty physical, so a little bit more experience.
Speaker 1: I think that's why he's higher on the depth chart
Speaker 1: than Wilson. In the event that Heath can't go or
Speaker 1: is limited. And let me correct that it was against
Speaker 1: Miami that when Woods was out. Yeah, and you know
Speaker 1: guys like Thompson, Goodwin, you mentioned Wilson, those guys will
Speaker 1: be important on special teams too. If he can't go,
Speaker 1: or even if he's limited, they probably don't want him
Speaker 1: on every special team, which he is as a starter,
Speaker 1: or most of them anyway, so that'll be important. All right.
Speaker 1: We continue with more Talking Cowboys in just a moment,
Speaker 1: go back to the Talking Cowboy. Talking cow Boys continues
Speaker 1: from the Star in Fresco. The Cowboys with a one
Speaker 1: of those rare noon Sunday games. You know, back in
Speaker 1: the day, the Cowboys used to play all the time
Speaker 1: at noon, and it's not so much that. Of course,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have always been since since the seventies America's team,
Speaker 1: but the networks have included more late afternoon and primetime games,
Speaker 1: so we don't get very many noon games on a Sunday.
Speaker 1: When you travel with the team, you like those, in
Speaker 1: this case in Detroit, one o'clock kickoffs, don't you. Oh
Speaker 1: it's great. You know it's probably what a two hour
Speaker 1: flight back you can get back by nine o'clock that night. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know you sacrifice an early morning to get home early.
Speaker 1: Why are you staying out late? Is that what you're
Speaker 1: telling me? You know me? Yeah, I'm just rippy, probably
Speaker 1: going to windsor Yeah, you do have that option Detroit.
Speaker 1: Back in the day, those noon games were tough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pull at all nighter the night before. Yeah, you have
Speaker 1: some stories to tell. Yeah. Aren't you happy there wasn't
Speaker 1: social media back in the day? Probably? Yes. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go to the phone lines. We've got Kevin in Ohio.
Speaker 1: You're up on talking Cowboys. Hello Kevin, Good afternoon, gentlemen.
Speaker 1: I have a quick question because I think this game
Speaker 1: is really important. If you look at Jason Garrett's tender
Speaker 1: here at from twenty ten to nineteen, his percentage of
Speaker 1: winning against good teams, He's around thirty seven percent, and
Speaker 1: per our schedule, that's we got five of those on
Speaker 1: our schedule remaining in the season. I'd like to get
Speaker 1: you guys hear what your thoughts on that. UM, the
Speaker 1: late starts. Not too concerned about that. It's just it's football.
Speaker 1: If anyone coached or play the game, sometimes you just
Speaker 1: go through that. UM. I know it's everyone's complaining about it.
Speaker 1: But to meet on the slow starts, I think that
Speaker 1: will come. I think it's a lot to do with
Speaker 1: the new offensive coordin area. I think it's just time.
Speaker 1: It's just a lot of mistakes. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: blame that on the coaches like everyone else does. UM.
Speaker 1: I believe that's more of a team altogether. But my
Speaker 1: biggest concern is is our is the way we are
Speaker 1: attacked or play against winning teams. UM, thirty seven percent
Speaker 1: is not very good. If you look at that the
Speaker 1: last five games we're you know, we're losing a lot
Speaker 1: more than we're winning in those If if that stays
Speaker 1: in ten so I'm gonna hang out listen to what
Speaker 1: you guys say, have a great day, and thank you
Speaker 1: for always all right, thank you, Kevin. Any thoughts until
Speaker 1: I see the thirty seven percent, I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm buying it. Oh, Okay, they beat I mean teams
Speaker 1: with a winning record this year, yeah, this year? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: How many did they beat last year? I'd have to
Speaker 1: go back. How many did they beat in twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: when they went thirteen and three with a backup I
Speaker 1: think rookie quarterback actually a third string. Road games they
Speaker 1: win that year, I think almost all of them. I
Speaker 1: think it was on the road. They've been competitive in
Speaker 1: every game. They've shown they can play with any team.
Speaker 1: It's finishing games, and there's a lot of games. Last year.
Speaker 1: They went ten and six last year, Yes, so many games.
Speaker 1: It could have gone either way. I think they were
Speaker 1: two in games decided by a touchdown or less. Yes,
Speaker 1: and they're oh and three this year. Sometimes it just
Speaker 1: swings back the other way. And I know everybody wants
Speaker 1: to play the blame game this week, and that's fair.
Speaker 1: When you lose a game. What went wrong? A lot
Speaker 1: of different things went wrong in the game. Um, there
Speaker 1: was some miscommunication with the players and the coaching staff
Speaker 1: with the Tavon fair catch all that all those last
Speaker 1: there wasn't much miscommunication because I think he was basically
Speaker 1: told to fair catch it, right, But they would have
Speaker 1: preferred to also add on to that communication that hey,
Speaker 1: if you see grass that he saw take it. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he saw it either. By the way, Well, regardless,
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is a lot of these games they
Speaker 1: come down to those one or two or three plays.
Speaker 1: They just gotta be able to finish games and start
Speaker 1: better too. But they they've shown their capable of it.
Speaker 1: Now you got to go do it obviously, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's not like they're getting wiped out. I mean even
Speaker 1: the game they got beat by ten points. You know,
Speaker 1: you make that field goal from thirty three yards, you're
Speaker 1: down a touchdown and you can on side kick right right,
Speaker 1: and the slows the slow start was turnovers. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you know otherwise that thing's a close game all
Speaker 1: throughout the game. Michael in Ottawa, Canada. You're next up
Speaker 1: here on talking cowboys. So Michael, yes hig, Happy Fiday,
Speaker 1: talking cowboys, gentlemen. He is the river already frozen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've got we've got snow on the ground. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: probably three to four inches on my front lawn already,
Speaker 1: and it's minus fit being Celsius here today. That's on
Speaker 1: my bucket list to go to Ottawa and see right, certainly,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling a little a little toasty in here all
Speaker 1: of a sudden. That's great. I want to skate on
Speaker 1: that thing. Fifteen Celsius. What's that fahrenheit freg I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't have my canine degrees right now, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't be about right. Okay, sorry to distract you.
Speaker 1: What do you got? Okay, listen, guys, I just want
Speaker 1: to know where is our friend Brian brought us? Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think you're probably gonna have to ask him, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: because I've been tweeting a few of the personalities on
Speaker 1: the network and I haven't been able to get an answer,
Speaker 1: and I just well, I hope he's doing all right.
Speaker 1: I hope he's not sick or something or yeah. I
Speaker 1: know again, I think you're gonna have to ask him. Okay, thanks,
Speaker 1: NICKI listen, Um, we gotta beat Detroit, right, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: this is this this nonsense. We got to I mean
Speaker 1: that the potential of this team. We you know, with
Speaker 1: all the talent we have, there's no reason we shouldn't
Speaker 1: have a better record. Absolutely two games better. You know
Speaker 1: that our kicker, if he was still stuck in the CFL,
Speaker 1: he would belong to the worst team in the CFL.
Speaker 1: The Ottawa Red Blacks went. I think they had three
Speaker 1: wins this season three, three and fifteen or something in
Speaker 1: an eighteen game schedule. So he's been saved. Changed their
Speaker 1: name to the Red Blacks. I thought they were Rider.
Speaker 1: Well that when they incorporated the new franchise in twenty fourteen. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: they used to be the Ottawa rough Rider. Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: was on that squad in ninety one. I believe he's
Speaker 1: another one that got rescued. Good thing because that that
Speaker 1: that team went bankrupt, right, oh it did? Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Ontario government took it over. It was a limited corporation.
Speaker 1: It was really embarrassing. We're talking Ottawa Red Blacks here
Speaker 1: on boys, boys, Now, what are they? The red What
Speaker 1: the red Blacks? It's like the red black. You know,
Speaker 1: the that sweater that the Lumberjacks wear, that jacket that okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where they got their name from because as Ottawa
Speaker 1: was a logging town, right, yeah, back in the day
Speaker 1: when it was founded, like eb Eddie's paper Mill and
Speaker 1: all that good stuff. So what's on your mind for Sunday? Well,
Speaker 1: we just got to beat the Lions. They don't have
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford starting. I think we got a good opportunity
Speaker 1: to get out there and beat them and get back
Speaker 1: on track. As this is because the Eagles, like you said, guys,
Speaker 1: they're not going anywhere, and you know it might come
Speaker 1: down to that last game on December twenty second, be
Speaker 1: a nice Christmas present, right, they get it wrapped up
Speaker 1: and win the division two years in a row. You
Speaker 1: got one more after that. You got washed in after that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that that's one. That's one you circle for sure.
Speaker 1: And right now we're focused on trying to make it
Speaker 1: a happy Thanksgiving, that's right, right. We appreciate it, Michael,
Speaker 1: stay warm up there and on a weekend and say
Speaker 1: travel to Detroit. Okay, appreciate it, and well we'll listen
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Speaker 1: Cowboys as we get you set for the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: the Lions. We each week make our picks, and I
Speaker 1: think we did pretty well on our picks. A week
Speaker 1: ago I took Loud Collins and because he was matched
Speaker 1: up against my guide to Neil Hunter, and Hunter did
Speaker 1: not have a sack. He came close to having a sack.
Speaker 1: It was negated by I believe a defensive holding call
Speaker 1: against the Vikings. But I think I thought Collins held
Speaker 1: up well in that game. And the Cowboys, by the way,
Speaker 1: on the season have still just given up eleven sacks
Speaker 1: through nine games. Which is amazing when you consider they
Speaker 1: gave up fifty six last year. They didn't just give
Speaker 1: up fifty six. As Mickey has pointed out time and
Speaker 1: time again, they have given up fifty six last year.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. And then Rob had Randall Cobb. I thought
Speaker 1: that was a terrific pick last week. I thought he
Speaker 1: was due. I mean, how many times are you gonna
Speaker 1: have a touchdown called back by penalty? You know? He
Speaker 1: and Dak found a rhythm, and he said after the game,
Speaker 1: this is the best I felt as a cowboy. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm in a zone right now. Maybe I
Speaker 1: should just ride the hot hand today. And especially on
Speaker 1: fourth and five, he was open over the middle. He
Speaker 1: was even open winning touchdown. That's right. And Mickey, you
Speaker 1: had Tank, I had DeMarcus Lawrence. He had a pretty
Speaker 1: active game, especially in the run game. Right. They ended
Speaker 1: up with something like, I want to say, eight tackles maybe,
Speaker 1: and Chason plays down from the Jason sides down head
Speaker 1: on that screen pass. He eight tackle. Yeah, he had
Speaker 1: eight tackles, one for loss. Yeah, so he had a
Speaker 1: good game. Okay, so we're hot about this. Let's run
Speaker 1: about the joint. Now, who who's your click, your pick
Speaker 1: to click. I'll let Rob go first, all right, I
Speaker 1: don't want to rob his guy. I'll be obvious man
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, and obviously they're I think they're trying to
Speaker 1: manage him like they did last week. Get him too.
Speaker 1: The game should be able to play and play well.
Speaker 1: I love what Jason Witten said after the game last week.
Speaker 1: The the guy is in a zone right now. You
Speaker 1: get to a point as a as a wide receiver
Speaker 1: where you feel like nobody can cover you, and that's
Speaker 1: what he can run any type of route he Obviously
Speaker 1: the sideline is no barrier for him to make catches
Speaker 1: and this Lion's defense is given up up some plays
Speaker 1: in the passing game. I like number nineteen to play
Speaker 1: well again on Sunday. I will go next and I
Speaker 1: will take one. Dakota Prescott. He has been playing at
Speaker 1: a career high level. He's second in the league in
Speaker 1: yards passing, he's second in the league an average gain
Speaker 1: per attempt, and he's third in touchdowns. So he is
Speaker 1: playing with the big boys, and we need a big
Speaker 1: boy game from dak Prescott on Sunday. Another big boy
Speaker 1: game from dak Prescott. Yeah, all right, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with the running back Ezekiel Elliott in this game. That's
Speaker 1: a good pick because when Zeke has a game like
Speaker 1: he did last week, he usually doesn't have two in
Speaker 1: a row Detroit. So what do you think Detroit's worried about.
Speaker 1: Do they think they can stop the run normally? And
Speaker 1: then they're gonna bear down on the passing game. They
Speaker 1: need to be worried about everything with their defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: although you know, when you've got Snacks Harrison in the middle,
Speaker 1: and I heard he's not playing well. Well, unfortunately, he
Speaker 1: showed up in the game. There were times he showed
Speaker 1: up against Chicago, just that big, powerful body that's stuff
Speaker 1: to block. Travis Frederick said it during the week. I
Speaker 1: look forward to the matchup, and I don't look forward
Speaker 1: to the matchup because of how how tough he is
Speaker 1: strength wise. But yeah, I mean they they got to
Speaker 1: get Zeke going right. Yeah, you know, he's he's still
Speaker 1: so vital to what they do offensively. Just need to
Speaker 1: make Snacks run for his food, not let go right
Speaker 1: to him. Well said, all right, and how about some
Speaker 1: picks on the games? Go ahead, Mick. I can't remember
Speaker 1: if I said this earlier in the show, or if
Speaker 1: I said it on the fan. But I was going
Speaker 1: to pick Cowboys twenty four twenty one, and then I
Speaker 1: listened to some talk radio said it on this show,
Speaker 1: and twenty minutes ago thirty one seventeen Cowboys. You've expanded it, though,
Speaker 1: because that earlier this show you said about thirty one
Speaker 1: to twenty, and now you take it away. I meant
Speaker 1: to say seventeen. If I didn't say seventeen. I like
Speaker 1: to say consistent. You know, I don't say one thing
Speaker 1: on the fan and then come in here and do
Speaker 1: something different. Okay, I'll go thirty to twenty. I think
Speaker 1: the offense is in good position right now. Defensively, can
Speaker 1: they stop the run? When they tackle well and stop
Speaker 1: the run, this defense is usually in pretty good shape,
Speaker 1: and I think they can do that. Sunday The Cowboys
Speaker 1: scores this season. Here's something that's unique about the Cowboys
Speaker 1: scores this season. They had a couple of games in
Speaker 1: fact that they were consecutive games, and I guess against
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and the New York Giants, they scored thirty seven points.
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys ever had three games in a season
Speaker 1: where they've scored thirty seven points if they've ever had two.
Speaker 1: I don't know that they have, and I'm not going
Speaker 1: to do the research on it, but I am going
Speaker 1: to tell you this. They're about to have three games
Speaker 1: this season in which they score thirty seven points. And
Speaker 1: guess what my final score is? Thirty seven to something.
Speaker 1: Thirty seven to something. Thirty seven to seven is my
Speaker 1: final score, a bill. If they scores thirty seven points,
Speaker 1: then bet your house because they'll win. Yes, they will
Speaker 1: win because with Jeff Driscoll at quarterback for the Lions.
Speaker 1: If I recall, I think we have thirty seven seconds
Speaker 1: left in the show, all five games they've won twenty
Speaker 1: scores at least thirty points. There you go. You heard
Speaker 1: it here. First. The Cowboys are winners if they get
Speaker 1: thirty seven points against the Lions, and we will talk
Speaker 1: at you again about this thirty seven point performance on Monday,