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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode number fifty three. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the latest edition of The Break Worldlife from the s
Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. Got Nick David Amber
Speaker 1: with me and we're ready talk some Cowboys Cowboys football,
Speaker 1: if you guys for the next forty five minutes. We
Speaker 1: will be joined by Bucky Brooks in the second segment today. Well,
Speaker 1: he will help us start breaking down the Philadelphia Eagles
Speaker 1: will talk about their offense versus the Cowboys defense. But
Speaker 1: before we get to that, we've got news related items
Speaker 1: we need to talk about. There are some personal changes happening.
Speaker 1: We alluded to that yesterday on the show based upon
Speaker 1: some of the comments that Jerry Jones gave in his
Speaker 1: interview on one one five Dot three The Fan and
Speaker 1: the first Domino falls yesterday with the Cowboys trading Everson Griffin.
Speaker 1: Dave talking to me about what the Cowboys got out
Speaker 1: of this trade deal. So it's a conditional pick, which
Speaker 1: is the type of thing you hear in deals like this.
Speaker 1: It sounds like it can be as good as a
Speaker 1: fifth rounder or a sixth. And the thing is, we
Speaker 1: don't know what those parameters are. Maybe it's a certain
Speaker 1: number of games, and maybe he has to sit hit
Speaker 1: a certain number of threshold, you know, a threshold of
Speaker 1: snaps or sacks or games on the active roster. You know.
Speaker 1: I would imagine if the Lions cut him in three weeks,
Speaker 1: you're probably not getting a round pick. So we'll have
Speaker 1: to see what that is. But they're gonna get a
Speaker 1: Day three pick in return. Amber whether it's a fifth
Speaker 1: or sixth round pick. Was it worth it? Is it
Speaker 1: worth that to to get rid of I guess a
Speaker 1: guy that's although he hasn't been great, I think this
Speaker 1: last game may have been the best game that he's
Speaker 1: played so far, not really seeing what he could become,
Speaker 1: is it worth it? Well, if you don't really know that,
Speaker 1: it wasn't going to work out with him then then yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you can try to get whatever you can
Speaker 1: get it. It's better than anything then, you know, than
Speaker 1: just cutting him. But it makes me wonder, I mean,
Speaker 1: are the Cowboys really better right now? I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's a question mark. I'm I know we are gonna
Speaker 1: get to see probably more Bradley and I and Randy Gregory,
Speaker 1: but I wonder how they're gonna start developing with getting
Speaker 1: more snaps on the field. I know that Nick and
Speaker 1: I hope he can talk about this. I know that
Speaker 1: we're certain things that that Nick has mentioned and as
Speaker 1: far as maybe his attitude and the things that he
Speaker 1: brings around the team, some things that we haven't been
Speaker 1: able to see Bud. Because Nick does travel with the team,
Speaker 1: he's getting a little better feel of what the dynamic
Speaker 1: is over there. So sorry, Nick, to put you on
Speaker 1: the spot, but I think that that's something that that's
Speaker 1: also important. Yeah, I do, thank you for the said sorry. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's you know what, that's That's why I
Speaker 1: guess that's one of the reasons why I'm there. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean that that that and I'm and I'm again
Speaker 1: I've said it. I'm very grateful to be on the
Speaker 1: trips and I miss you guys being there with with me.
Speaker 1: For sure. I do. I definitely do, trust me, um.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, there are some things that I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily like to see. But that doesn't you know, you
Speaker 1: can't judge by people just by what they what they
Speaker 1: do and how they you know, walk around and all that.
Speaker 1: It's a different mentality when you're playing football. You know,
Speaker 1: these guys could be paralyzed at any snap, so to
Speaker 1: go through a game and all that, you know, we
Speaker 1: think they should be mad and upset and throwing things
Speaker 1: around and punching doors and stuff like that, but they
Speaker 1: don't act like that. And that's okay. He is, he's
Speaker 1: in that other side. I mean he's he's this is
Speaker 1: eleven year career for him. So he was walking. I
Speaker 1: saw him after the game. It didn't look like that
Speaker 1: game bothered him, and that bothers fans because that game
Speaker 1: is still bothering some people that are listening right now.
Speaker 1: They're still mad, and it does. It didn't seem I
Speaker 1: could be wrong. He was very professional when he did
Speaker 1: his interview afterwards. He was he said, yes, I'll do it.
Speaker 1: A pr asked him he said, yeah, I'll go do it,
Speaker 1: but he did. It doesn't seem like he really cared
Speaker 1: that much, and and and about some of the other things.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong there if I am, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: But you know, if they say perception is reality, then
Speaker 1: the perception is is that you know this, this is
Speaker 1: how they were playing. Didn't bother him that much. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that that that's why he was dealt, but
Speaker 1: you know, and I didn't like Mike McCarthy's press conference today.
Speaker 1: He said he it's been excellent. I well, then why
Speaker 1: are you training away an excellent player if you're two
Speaker 1: and five? I don't understand that. So why can't you
Speaker 1: just say, you know, yeah, that's a dad don't the
Speaker 1: team captain thing because Xavier Woods said a comment he
Speaker 1: shouldn't have said, and he gets to be the captain.
Speaker 1: And then Everson Griffin, who clearly wasn't as happy, and
Speaker 1: he gets to be a captain too. I don't like that.
Speaker 1: I don't like what McCarthy's doing with the captains. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a good uh, you know, whatever, whatever
Speaker 1: he's doing. I don't think that that works. But all
Speaker 1: in all, I don't think they're better. I'm sorry, I'm rambling.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're better than they were, But that's
Speaker 1: not what it's about. I think that this is an
Speaker 1: addition by subtraction. They wanted to get rid of him, Dave,
Speaker 1: do you think that they gave this enough time to
Speaker 1: see if he could play and fit here and be
Speaker 1: an option even for the future, because we know right now,
Speaker 1: again he hadn't played great and they're halfway through the season.
Speaker 1: It's not like that was gonna change a ton, But
Speaker 1: do you think they gave it enough time to see
Speaker 1: if maybe he was an as a player that they
Speaker 1: wanted to keep a few two years. I mean that
Speaker 1: that's not really up to them, is it. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a free agent at the end of the year,
Speaker 1: and anybody that wants him can sign him. Um it.
Speaker 1: You know, it's hard to it's hard to judge with
Speaker 1: the access that we have, but it didn't seem like
Speaker 1: it was a great fit. They dealt him before the
Speaker 1: halfway point of the season. Seems to suggest that it
Speaker 1: wasn't a great fit. You know, I think I think
Speaker 1: he's still a good player, but for this team, you know,
Speaker 1: for you know, we talk about you know, Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: is is still going to need to build this team
Speaker 1: in his image the way that he wants it. I
Speaker 1: think you're more likely to do that with draft picks
Speaker 1: than with thirty year old pass rushers who are way
Speaker 1: closer to the end of their career than the beginning.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think they gave it plenty of I mean,
Speaker 1: you know this, this is going to be an uphill
Speaker 1: battle for this team to be, to be a playoff contender,
Speaker 1: to be anything like that. So I would rather get
Speaker 1: a draft pick than that he wants to hang around
Speaker 1: when this season is over with. Yeah, I agree, Dave.
Speaker 1: I think this was this was a piece that was
Speaker 1: one of the final pieces to go try to win
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. And I mean, as funny as that
Speaker 1: sounds now, but that's exactly what this was. It was like, hey,
Speaker 1: they got everything in place. The offense is great, they
Speaker 1: need a little bit more on defense. You know, Let's
Speaker 1: see if he can be what Robert Quinn was for
Speaker 1: this defense. And you know, and then if that's not
Speaker 1: going to happen and it's not his fault, but it's
Speaker 1: not going to happen, then he's a progress stopper and
Speaker 1: Amber mentioned an I and Gregory that's what all the
Speaker 1: fans want to see, and and and McCarthy, you know,
Speaker 1: probably frustrated them by saying, oh, Dorin's Armstrong would be
Speaker 1: ahead of that, but Dorn's Armstrong is gonna get some
Speaker 1: some work in as well. Yeah, okay, Um, so that
Speaker 1: was they've Oh, that didn't mean to be like that
Speaker 1: too exciting, My bad. Um, so they've they've already made
Speaker 1: the deal for Wheverson Griffin. There are reports out there,
Speaker 1: um that don Terry Poe and Darryl Worley have been
Speaker 1: told that they will essentially be traded or or or
Speaker 1: released here soon. Yeah. I think it's important really, and
Speaker 1: I know most fans might know this. It's important to
Speaker 1: know that this show, this show, we take this show
Speaker 1: live right now at eleven thirty Central. It's important to
Speaker 1: know because you're you're gonna be driving tonight or whatever.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be on the team. They're not and
Speaker 1: everyone's gonna know that, and they're like, what are they
Speaker 1: talking about. We take this show right now. The practice
Speaker 1: is going on, and I don't think they're there. And
Speaker 1: McCarthy would not would not answer the question and ask
Speaker 1: exactly so I think I think for there's smoke, there's
Speaker 1: certainly fire here. But I asked that question or I
Speaker 1: bring that up because when you look at it, Nick,
Speaker 1: you and I were having this conversation before we went
Speaker 1: on the air. You look at the free agent that
Speaker 1: the cow free agents or just veteran signings that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys had this offseason, there are only three that I
Speaker 1: can recall that are still on this team. You got
Speaker 1: Alden Smith, Blake Bell and Greg's Airline that are still here,
Speaker 1: Gerald McCoy and Haha Clinton Dix didn't even make it
Speaker 1: to the regular season, and Everson Griffin. You got don
Speaker 1: Terry Poe, and you got Darryl Worley who presumably won't
Speaker 1: make it halfway through the season. Does this say something
Speaker 1: and highlight maybe there's a problem with Dallas's philosophy and
Speaker 1: strategy when it comes to how they deal with free
Speaker 1: agents and how they deal with offseason veteran signings of
Speaker 1: players heading into their upcoming season. Let's start first with you,
Speaker 1: Amber Well. I think this is something that we can
Speaker 1: be a little bit more judgmental on because one you're
Speaker 1: speaking about veteran guys, and two this is way before
Speaker 1: or not way before, but before really the pandemic actually
Speaker 1: fully hit us. So one. The Cowboys are great at
Speaker 1: bringing in talent when it comes to the draft. The
Speaker 1: scouting team I think do an amazing job, but I've
Speaker 1: never ever liked anything that they really do in free
Speaker 1: agency when it comes to veteran I feel that they're
Speaker 1: always trying to save money. They're always trying to be
Speaker 1: a little too conservative, not really trying to bring someone
Speaker 1: that's like super impact for a big name guy. And
Speaker 1: to me from it, hopefully my memory is serving me wrong,
Speaker 1: but they haven't been that successful when it comes to
Speaker 1: free agency as far as the guys being really good
Speaker 1: for the team once they come in. So um, you
Speaker 1: guys have hopefully better memory than me. But that's just
Speaker 1: how I see it, where they just don't don't really
Speaker 1: And I don't want to say try that hard, because
Speaker 1: I know they work really hard, but it just feels
Speaker 1: that I just wish they would be more extravagant when
Speaker 1: it comes to free agency. Dave, I don't even want
Speaker 1: them to be extravagant. I just want them to be competitive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't this isn't new. I think we've
Speaker 1: realized there was a flaw in their strategy for a
Speaker 1: few years at this point. I think I think I officially,
Speaker 1: I officially jumped off the bandwagon of the way they
Speaker 1: do free agency when they wouldn't give Tyrn Matthew a
Speaker 1: one year, you know, eight million dollar deal when he
Speaker 1: was coming off an injury. And that's not that's not
Speaker 1: when he signed for big money with the Chiefs. That
Speaker 1: was when the Texans got him for pennies for the
Speaker 1: caliber a player that he is, and their unwillingness to
Speaker 1: get involved in that really turned me off. Um, I
Speaker 1: get it. Free agency is dangerous. You don't want to
Speaker 1: all you don't want to be the team that's handing
Speaker 1: out the most money, and free agency it very rarely works.
Speaker 1: I think Stephen Jones is right about that. But you
Speaker 1: have to be able to strike a balance, and and
Speaker 1: they haven't. They haven't really been willing to do that.
Speaker 1: They preferred to bargain hunt. I do feel bad. You know,
Speaker 1: they gave Gerald McCoy a decent amount of money and
Speaker 1: that could have been a really good signing. It's it's
Speaker 1: crappy luck for them that they didn't get anything out
Speaker 1: of him. But for the most part, you know, Aldon
Speaker 1: Smith has been a revelation, but like, if that's your
Speaker 1: strategy to fix your pass rush, that never sat well
Speaker 1: with me. Is like banking on a long shot. Is
Speaker 1: this great strategy? Or you know the other guys like haha,
Speaker 1: Clinton Dix was a big name because he was a
Speaker 1: first round pick, but plenty of people questioned whether he
Speaker 1: was actually an upgrade or we can take this thing back.
Speaker 1: You know, Alan Hearns and Deonte Thompson being your big
Speaker 1: signings to help replace Dez Bryant. I'm not sure about
Speaker 1: that one. You know, we can talk about the problems
Speaker 1: with swing tackle, which is an issue with how many
Speaker 1: injuries that they've had at the tackle position over the
Speaker 1: last four years. I think you've got to be willing
Speaker 1: to spend a little bit more money. And this isn't
Speaker 1: this isn't new. You know, we can go down the
Speaker 1: list of yeah, you know, bring up the Chiefs again.
Speaker 1: Think about the additions they've made in free agency to
Speaker 1: shore up their team. Think about you know, the Eagles.
Speaker 1: A big chunk of how they built that Super Bowl
Speaker 1: team in twenty seventeen was with smart free agent signings.
Speaker 1: So you got to be able to do both. You
Speaker 1: got to draft well, but you have to identify things
Speaker 1: that you're willing to spend money on. And I don't
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys have done a good enough job of that.
Speaker 1: Nick with all the big money that they're spending to
Speaker 1: go to what Day's talking about, all the big money
Speaker 1: that they're having to spend on some of the veteran
Speaker 1: guys that they are keeping on the team, do they
Speaker 1: have the money in free agency to be able to
Speaker 1: be as free as I think we all are requesting
Speaker 1: that they be. We're all wanting them to spend a
Speaker 1: little bit more money. But do they have the money
Speaker 1: when they're having to keep these other guys big money?
Speaker 1: Not really, I mean, and that's and the Dave said it,
Speaker 1: and I mean Amber said it too. They that's not
Speaker 1: been their philosophy. Their their philosophy has been to try
Speaker 1: to build through the draft. I think through the free
Speaker 1: agency they're trying to patch holes and so uh and
Speaker 1: and and like like we've all said, bargain hunt, you know,
Speaker 1: try you know, and what get what you pay for? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean you know where you want to shop,
Speaker 1: if you want to shop there, good luck, you know,
Speaker 1: they might get something but don't be surprised when it
Speaker 1: doesn't work out. And you know, I think we all
Speaker 1: kind of fell into that. I know I did. I
Speaker 1: thought this was going to be, you know, much better signings.
Speaker 1: But I mean their questions were out there why Carolina
Speaker 1: was so bad on defense last year? And Gerald McCoy
Speaker 1: and Dan Terry Pope were sitting right in the middle
Speaker 1: of that of that line. So uh, you know. But
Speaker 1: but I'll say this, I had somebody tell me, and
Speaker 1: this is scary. Daryl Worley was the highest graded cornerback
Speaker 1: they had last year when they raided the cornerbacks for
Speaker 1: the he played for the Raiders, and then all the
Speaker 1: cornerbacks that they had on the team, Daryl Whorley was
Speaker 1: the highest graded player that they had. Wait, he was
Speaker 1: when you had all the quarterbacks, all the cornerbacks on
Speaker 1: the Dallas team. Yeah, and then Daryl Whorley he had
Speaker 1: the highest grade from line from Jordan Lewis Cheetah and
Speaker 1: the guys from the Cowboys and then also yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: but he he might have been. That just goes to
Speaker 1: show where where they are. And because he hasn't played
Speaker 1: well here, let's let's be clear, he has not played
Speaker 1: well here. Don Terry Poe has not played well here,
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't think these are situations where
Speaker 1: you're talking about guys that came in here and they
Speaker 1: played pretty good, but it was just a bad team.
Speaker 1: Like they were a part, they were a big part
Speaker 1: of the problem. Did Worley make a play? I mean,
Speaker 1: like Worley did be on the team. Yeah, it's good
Speaker 1: a few of those. Did he that's my line? Thank you?
Speaker 1: You set me up? Did with your line? Did he?
Speaker 1: I mean, did Poe do anything other than I mean,
Speaker 1: he must have done on the goal line stand? Poe
Speaker 1: did his job. He had to. You're the nose tackle
Speaker 1: and they ran a quarterb any nose tackle when they
Speaker 1: do a quarterback sneak and they don't score. The nose
Speaker 1: tackle did his job. He must have done something. I
Speaker 1: got you. Yeah, but he I mean, he had headlines
Speaker 1: for other reasons and that and that's that's fine. That's
Speaker 1: that's that's just the only headline he had, is what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Man, I think that's irrelevant to the what
Speaker 1: he did on the field. Like he just did not
Speaker 1: perform on the field. And I think it was very
Speaker 1: very apparent that he didn't perform on the field. So
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone right now is looking at these
Speaker 1: guys as, hey, well, maybe you should give it a
Speaker 1: little more time, particularly Whirling and Poe. I think that
Speaker 1: you already seeing it because their time on the field
Speaker 1: was actually declining because they just knew they were a
Speaker 1: liability for them. We're gonna go and take our first break.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we'll be joined by Bucky Brooks
Speaker 1: of NFL Network. He'll talk to us about the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: offense versus the Dallas defense till then we'll be right back.
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Speaker 1: We're joined by Bucky Brooks of NFL Network, and Bucky,
Speaker 1: I think you caught a little bit of the conversation
Speaker 1: we had there in the last segment where we were
Speaker 1: talking about the Cowboys philosophy when it comes to free
Speaker 1: agent signings and veteran signings in the offseason, and I
Speaker 1: thought you had an interesting perspective. Tell us a little
Speaker 1: bit about what you think could be going on here
Speaker 1: and why Dallas has had such bad luck, particularly this
Speaker 1: year with some of these guys that they signed. Free
Speaker 1: agents are always tough because what you're doing is you're
Speaker 1: looking at another team's player and a player playing in
Speaker 1: another scheme and trying to project how he would play
Speaker 1: in your scheme and how he would fit. You also
Speaker 1: have to figure out what is his locker room demeanor, like,
Speaker 1: what's his football character life in terms of blending it.
Speaker 1: In this year, there was so much flux in terms
Speaker 1: of the offseason program. So you have Mike Nolan and
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, those guys coming in. Mike Nolan telling the
Speaker 1: personnel department, here's what I like. These are my ideal
Speaker 1: traits that I wanted certain positions the Cowboys listening to
Speaker 1: him and then going and trying to shop to find
Speaker 1: guys to fit. And the thing that the personnel department
Speaker 1: didn't have, they didn't have any film. They hadn't seen
Speaker 1: that scheme play out in real life, so they didn't
Speaker 1: really see what kind of players can make that scheme
Speaker 1: come to life. And so you take some chances on
Speaker 1: some guys and then you get him here and it
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily work out, be it because of the football
Speaker 1: character or the playing ability. For whatever reason, it didn't
Speaker 1: work out, But I kind of applaud them, because I
Speaker 1: feel like now was the time that you have to
Speaker 1: pull the plug on this because it wasn't going any where.
Speaker 1: And if you're Mike McCarthy and you're going to put
Speaker 1: your stamp on this team, the best way to do
Speaker 1: it is to do it with the young guys. You
Speaker 1: gotta give those young guys an opportunity to play because
Speaker 1: you still have a chance to change their habits. You
Speaker 1: can change the habits. Have ever seen Griffin, Daryl Worley,
Speaker 1: and don Arry Pole. They are what they are as
Speaker 1: players and as people. All Right, So let's go ahead
Speaker 1: and jump into the conversation around the Cowboys and the Eagles.
Speaker 1: So they were focusing on the Eagles offense versus the
Speaker 1: Dallas defense. Talk to me about the what is the
Speaker 1: greatest strength of this Philadelphia offense? Obviously, I know that
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is the really the guy that it's kind
Speaker 1: of based on right now because they've had so many
Speaker 1: injuries at the skill positions. But outside of him and
Speaker 1: kind of using what he does well, who is that
Speaker 1: next player or position that you think provides a strength
Speaker 1: for this Philadelphia offense. It's funny, man, because I feel
Speaker 1: like the conversation has been the same every time I
Speaker 1: come on. Particularly we were talking about nfcast teams. They're
Speaker 1: a team that they don't really have marquee players. Zach
Speaker 1: Ertz right now is on i R. He's unavailable, Dallas
Speaker 1: Goddard maybe he comes back, whatever he's been injured. They
Speaker 1: really have been able to do it with practice squad
Speaker 1: guys that have been elevated. So Travis Fogum is someone
Speaker 1: that they have found and he has been the leader
Speaker 1: receiver for them. Two hundred and fifty seven yards three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: His totals since Week four are the third most International
Speaker 1: Football League. Greg Ward has pitched in and fully made
Speaker 1: the conversion from being a quarterback to being a standout
Speaker 1: slide receiver. He has three touchdowns. Outside of that, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a hodgepig of people that just kind of come
Speaker 1: in and out of the game. Boston Scott, Jason Crum,
Speaker 1: a bunch of different guys that are making contributions, and
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is kind of making it go. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you, he has not played at
Speaker 1: a high level. It is a bit of a Jucklin
Speaker 1: Hyde scenario. When you get him, he'll play good. In
Speaker 1: the first quarter, He'll disappeared the second and third quarter,
Speaker 1: then Rea here in the fourth quarter and play great,
Speaker 1: and that has been good enough to get them close
Speaker 1: to the winner circle sometimes. So you know, it's one
Speaker 1: of those games where I don't know where the production
Speaker 1: is going to come from the Eagles, but they just
Speaker 1: kind of find a way to get it done, and
Speaker 1: they've been playing better of late. Lucky, when things aren't
Speaker 1: going too great in your own team, you tend to
Speaker 1: start looking at opponents and kind of look at the
Speaker 1: things that they're doing, and they're starting to be successful
Speaker 1: at I think that with the Eagles, you can argue that, yeah,
Speaker 1: they haven't been a great team at all this season,
Speaker 1: but I feel that they are starting to trend upwards
Speaker 1: and doing some things a little bit better. What would
Speaker 1: be an area that you would say that you've seen
Speaker 1: some good improvement throughout this season and how were they
Speaker 1: able to do that? I think the best thing that
Speaker 1: they have done is they've tried as much as they
Speaker 1: can to continue to innovate to give their quarterback the
Speaker 1: best chance to succeed. I would say that Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: has really been struggling. Obviously, you look at the number
Speaker 1: of turnovers that he's had. He is not playing to
Speaker 1: the level of expectation for a franchise quarterback, much less
Speaker 1: someone that was taken second. Overall, they have added more
Speaker 1: tempo to this offense. They tried to go faster. He
Speaker 1: appears to play better when they're operating at a quick
Speaker 1: because it simplifies things not only for the offense but
Speaker 1: for the defense. But the best thing that they can
Speaker 1: do is to get him to kind of play within himself.
Speaker 1: He has a tendency to make these hero plays and
Speaker 1: these crazy throws, to going across the field and doing
Speaker 1: those things, and that's when the turnovers are coming. He
Speaker 1: also has tried to be something that he's not. He
Speaker 1: has tried to fancy himself as a traditional drop back passer,
Speaker 1: and his game is not such where he can do that.
Speaker 1: He has to lean into his athleticism. He has to run,
Speaker 1: he has to get on the move and make some
Speaker 1: plays outside the pocket for him to fully maximize his talents.
Speaker 1: He said, not good enough just to stand in the
Speaker 1: pocket and deal that. That has not been the strength
Speaker 1: of his game. Bucky, I'm gonna I'm gonna take a
Speaker 1: page out of Knicks playbook, Like, at this point I
Speaker 1: care a lot less about what the Eagles are doing
Speaker 1: than I've like then obviously what we're seeing from the
Speaker 1: stats defense, I'm curious in your mind. Let's just assume
Speaker 1: you know, Everson Griffin's already gone. I think Daryl Worley
Speaker 1: and Dontari Pope won't be long for the roster either.
Speaker 1: If you take those three guys off this defense and
Speaker 1: put three younger guys, like even if they're not as
Speaker 1: experienced or maybe not as talented right now, like, can
Speaker 1: this defense be a little bit sounder with just young
Speaker 1: guys doing what they're asked to be doing? Like? Can
Speaker 1: I find some optimism there? I don't know, but help me. Yeah?
Speaker 1: Absolutely so. One of my best friends is a former
Speaker 1: cowboy Dennis Thurman, who played under Tom Landry guys, and
Speaker 1: he says that one thing that he always took from
Speaker 1: coach Landry is there's no difference between a guy who
Speaker 1: won't do it and a guy who can do it.
Speaker 1: The guys who were there before, they weren't doing what
Speaker 1: was being asked to them, so you better serve to
Speaker 1: put in the young guys and let them have a
Speaker 1: crack act. Also, we've been waiting for six or seven
Speaker 1: weeks for someone to be the sacrificial lamb. Someone has
Speaker 1: to get cut. So everyone understands that there's a certain
Speaker 1: standard of an expectation what players should be doing. So
Speaker 1: now that you remove three guys, you can best believe
Speaker 1: that the locker room understands that, oh, we at an
Speaker 1: earthen level. And so I think with the young guys,
Speaker 1: I think you have a chance to if you're Mike
Speaker 1: Nolan to be a little more, you can teach them.
Speaker 1: You can have a bigger impression on them, a bigger
Speaker 1: impact on the way that they fight, and that in
Speaker 1: itself they help them. I think what you want to
Speaker 1: look for may not show up in the win column.
Speaker 1: Like Nolan Mike McCarthy have to do, is you have
Speaker 1: to focus on what's one area that we can prove
Speaker 1: on this week, whether that's running to the ball or
Speaker 1: not letting the ball overhead. Let's focus on that and
Speaker 1: if we can slowly piece of these things over a
Speaker 1: three or four week period, the defense will eventually begin
Speaker 1: to play better and maybe the wins will come. If
Speaker 1: you can just focus on clear up some of the
Speaker 1: little issues supposed to try and take on how can
Speaker 1: we fix the entire defense? What's the road line look
Speaker 1: like right now? I know that they're tackles I mean
Speaker 1: Cowboys two tackles out, but I think they've also had
Speaker 1: two tackles out, maybe not together, but it feels like
Speaker 1: that they're really banged up as well. A mess. It
Speaker 1: is a mess. Two teams that are really struggling. The
Speaker 1: former rugby fair Jordan I'm allowed to has been starting
Speaker 1: left tackle and he is certainly talented. Inexperience that has
Speaker 1: hurt them. They cut recently cut Jamal Brown, and they
Speaker 1: put in a rookie who was struggling inside the guard.
Speaker 1: And so Carson Wentz has been sacked twenty eight times,
Speaker 1: tied for the most in the league. The office line
Speaker 1: is vulnerable, and so all the issues that we can
Speaker 1: talk about offensively for the Cowboys, we can spit right
Speaker 1: back at the Eagles. The challenge will be which defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator takes advantage of the vulnerabilities of the offensive line.
Speaker 1: We've seen Jim Schwartz for the Eagles dollars up. Will
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan have confidence in the back end to press
Speaker 1: and push the envelope and say, hey, we're gonna come
Speaker 1: after Carson went when he's been under pressure, he is
Speaker 1: really melted and will under pressure. The Cowboys have to
Speaker 1: find a way to create pressure. On that note, Bucky,
Speaker 1: when you look at the fact that Wins has been
Speaker 1: sacked twenty eight times, is this the kind of game
Speaker 1: when you look at what you've seen and I actually
Speaker 1: personally think that Tank Lawrence has actually played a little
Speaker 1: better the last few weeks. Is this a game that
Speaker 1: becomes somewhat of it? And I know it's gonna sound
Speaker 1: really crazy, so everyone's gonna laugh, but kind of a
Speaker 1: get right game for the Cowboys pass rush because you know, again,
Speaker 1: it maybe differencing an offensive line that might just be
Speaker 1: beat up as the one that they've been practicing against
Speaker 1: all these weeks. You know, I'm domistic that it is.
Speaker 1: But then I was outmis last week that why football
Speaker 1: team's offense was so bad that that would be the
Speaker 1: get right game, and they ran for twenty yards. And
Speaker 1: so the first thing that has to happen. Dallas has
Speaker 1: to know that Philadelphias are going to try and run
Speaker 1: the football at them because they put bad film on
Speaker 1: the They've seen teams that can't run like Washington. The
Speaker 1: Giants have a level of success from the football. The
Speaker 1: first thing they're gonna do it They're gonna to defense
Speaker 1: see if they can they can stop the run. If
Speaker 1: they can stop the run, then tack Lawrence and Aldi
Speaker 1: Smith and those guys would have an opportunity to hunt.
Speaker 1: The priority has to be we have to run. We
Speaker 1: have to force the Eagles to be dimensional. If you
Speaker 1: can make the Eagles one pension you can get after
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, and Carson Wentz will give the ball away,
Speaker 1: but the Stars were stopping the run. Well, adding to
Speaker 1: that question, and be honest with this, how confident are
Speaker 1: you on the voice defense ability to whether they end
Speaker 1: up stacking Carson Wentz and then recovering the ball or
Speaker 1: trying to get their hands on a back throw that
Speaker 1: he throws in their How comes they are you that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys stefense can actually get their hands on that ball. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not confident. I'm not real confident right now because
Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't seen. But but what I'm doing
Speaker 1: is I'm trying to be faithful. I'm trying to have
Speaker 1: enough faith that at some point the players are good
Speaker 1: enough to get it done. But I do believe we
Speaker 1: can talk about Mike Nolan simplifying and those things. I
Speaker 1: think this has kind of been a wake up call
Speaker 1: for everybody because when you start removing players, I think
Speaker 1: everyone understands where they're sitting. And for Mike Nolan, this
Speaker 1: is a huge challenge because how do you get a
Speaker 1: group of guys to believe in your scheme when they
Speaker 1: haven't seen a lot of success early on? Where does
Speaker 1: that come from? And so he has to figure out
Speaker 1: which guys are his leaders, which guys can convey his message.
Speaker 1: He has to convince those guys first and hope that
Speaker 1: they can convince their teammates that and we have to
Speaker 1: play as one. But right now, no, I'm not very
Speaker 1: optimistic or confident, but I'm hoping over the course of
Speaker 1: the game, you get a couple of good plays to happen,
Speaker 1: and then maybe it spreads like wildfire. I want to
Speaker 1: ask you about Jalen Rager, but we don't know if
Speaker 1: he's going to play. I think I read he's coming
Speaker 1: back to practice this week, but not a guarantee to play.
Speaker 1: But I do remember the other rookie, John high Tower,
Speaker 1: has got a pretty good reputation for being a deep
Speaker 1: ball guy and made a really great play in the
Speaker 1: Giants game last week. So am I right to think
Speaker 1: that he's who I need to be worried about getting
Speaker 1: behind the defense this week? Well, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: you have to be worried about everybody, because I don't
Speaker 1: think it's even I think it's anybody. I think the
Speaker 1: main thing is just trying to get the young guys
Speaker 1: to do exactly what has asked to him. And you know,
Speaker 1: whether it's Trevon Diggs or anybody they put Anthony Brown,
Speaker 1: whoever's playing outside, I think the number one priority for
Speaker 1: the past defense, Let's keep the ball in front of
Speaker 1: the defense. Don't let the ball flow over the head
Speaker 1: because big plays of what gets you beat in this league,
Speaker 1: like the seventy yard bombs, to just letting it go
Speaker 1: completely over your head, that has been the biggest problem.
Speaker 1: If you keep the ball in front of Yeah, they
Speaker 1: nfitely diamond down the field and you can find a
Speaker 1: way to get a stop in the red zone. Sure
Speaker 1: they get threes, but they don't get sevens. But when
Speaker 1: you give up the bombs, it's demoralizing and I just
Speaker 1: think for a team that is already teetering on the
Speaker 1: brink from a confident standpoint, just the big plays just
Speaker 1: absolutely crushed him. And so regardless of whether it's Greg
Speaker 1: Ward or Travis Folgum who was really emerged, or John
Speaker 1: hog Tower, the Cowboys have to focus on keeping the
Speaker 1: ball in front of the defense, make them drive the
Speaker 1: length of the film. Don't get them any cheats. All right,
Speaker 1: here's my dilemma, Bucky. You talked about confidential. Also we're
Speaker 1: also talking about guys from you know, the future. You're
Speaker 1: getting these young guys ready to play. So Cheeto comes
Speaker 1: back this week, Chito Woozier, What are you doing with
Speaker 1: Trevon Diggs? Do you want to do you want to
Speaker 1: put him on nickel? Do you want to bench him?
Speaker 1: Do you want to maybe hurt his confidence? I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean you can't. You got to stop the big plays.
Speaker 1: But how are you handling him back in the mix?
Speaker 1: And maybe Anthony Brown or what are you doing at corner?
Speaker 1: If you're the Cowboys right now, right now, all hands
Speaker 1: on deck. So I would put Cheetah in him. Cheetah
Speaker 1: as ready and available to play, because what I need
Speaker 1: I need guys who can take the information that's been
Speaker 1: given in meetings and executed. Dix has struggled and he's
Speaker 1: given up a ton of big plays. And even though
Speaker 1: I want to build him up because he is the future,
Speaker 1: right now, I got to solve the bleeding. And if
Speaker 1: Cheeto knows exactly what to do, if he can keep
Speaker 1: the ball in front, if he can tackle and make
Speaker 1: some plays, I'm gonna go with the veterans, Anthony Brown
Speaker 1: and Cheeto, and I'll try and work Digs in. But
Speaker 1: we've seen too many instances of Digs just falling asleep
Speaker 1: at the wheel, not knowing exactly what to do when
Speaker 1: it comes to some of the matchups. Are we in man,
Speaker 1: are we in zone? Stopping his feet giving up big plays?
Speaker 1: I can't. If I'm Mike Nolan, I gotta go with
Speaker 1: the guys that I trust, and I would trust Cheetah
Speaker 1: over Digs right now. All right, before we let you go, Bucky,
Speaker 1: I had a bigger, bigger picture question just from the
Speaker 1: standpoint of the Eagles Carson Winch. She go back to
Speaker 1: his rookie year, he was on pace to be a
Speaker 1: real candidate. I thought or League MVP and was playing
Speaker 1: outstanding football. From that to where he is now, it's
Speaker 1: a simple question what happened to him, you know, Like
Speaker 1: so he was really reckless in terms of how he played,
Speaker 1: and going all the way back to North Dakota State,
Speaker 1: he's always battled a series of injuries, Like he always
Speaker 1: had something that he's dealing with. Well when he goes
Speaker 1: into the league, because of his style of play, because
Speaker 1: he lives on the edge, he doesn't really understand or
Speaker 1: know how to slide. He takes a lot of shots,
Speaker 1: and he also doesn't know when the play is over.
Speaker 1: And because he extends plays and he plays in such
Speaker 1: a reckless style, he kind of exposes himself to me.
Speaker 1: When he was coming out, he was a version of
Speaker 1: Cam Newton in terms of like how rugged and physical
Speaker 1: that he played, the way that they used him in
Speaker 1: North Dakota State. He has continued to do that, but
Speaker 1: he's done that and hurt himself acl bad concussions, risks
Speaker 1: a lot of injuries, and that has really impacted his game.
Speaker 1: And so now he's a bit true trigger shot into pocket.
Speaker 1: He doesn't really want to deal with that, and so
Speaker 1: it impacts his game. But he's not good enough to
Speaker 1: play as a status passer. And so I think the
Speaker 1: funny thing is when you hear this, and without even
Speaker 1: inserting the dad conversation, I'm inserted. But I think when
Speaker 1: you look at Dak and you look at Carson Wentz,
Speaker 1: Dak has been a much better player, more consistent player
Speaker 1: throughout his time. And I just think because a draft status,
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz has always gotten tony because outside of that
Speaker 1: one great year, he has not played at that level
Speaker 1: that you would expect a guy that was taking second
Speaker 1: overall to play. Hey, that's good stuff, Bucky. We appreciate it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to our final break. We'll be back
Speaker 1: tomorrow with Bucky when he's gonna talk a little bit
Speaker 1: more about this Philadelphia defense versus a Cowboys offense. But
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break right now. We'll come back.
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Speaker 1: We got some injury updates. There are quite a few
Speaker 1: guys that are that we need to catch up on
Speaker 1: as far as where they are from an injury standpoint, Dave,
Speaker 1: why don't you run through these forests. I'll give you
Speaker 1: a name. You tell me what you're hearing as far
Speaker 1: as where they are and their trek to to come
Speaker 1: back to play. They'll start with Andy Dalton. Uh, Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton in meetings, not practicing. I don't feel optimistic about that.
Speaker 1: But if if he's able to go, I mean, if
Speaker 1: he's able to get into practice I'm gonna go out
Speaker 1: on a limb and say I won't be until Saturday,
Speaker 1: which is that's that's their Friday practice day. So um,
Speaker 1: not optimistic, but he is in meetings, so that's good.
Speaker 1: And at this point, is the expectation that you got
Speaker 1: Bend Nucci or is this a possibility? Maybe it'll it'll
Speaker 1: be Ben, It'll be Ben or Andy? Okay, d Yeah,
Speaker 1: how you guys feel about that? I tell you what.
Speaker 1: We'll wait. Savings not great, mob, we'll talk about that tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the Cowboys offense. Um, all right, so
Speaker 1: talking to me about Zack Martin. Zack Martin is expected
Speaker 1: to practice today. I think he will play on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: All right, good, h Let's talk about Joe Looney. He's practicing.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna back. He's practicing. Yeah, message on that from
Speaker 1: the PR staff that he is returning. Okay, good. So
Speaker 1: it looks like Joe Zach might be back this week.
Speaker 1: That gives you two offensive linemen that have some experience
Speaker 1: that you could kind of study some things with. I
Speaker 1: do too, Like, that's that's great. That's that's good for
Speaker 1: an offensive line struggle in meaning meaning go ahead, Amber No.
Speaker 1: Based on what I heard from Mike McCarthy earlier today
Speaker 1: in his press conference, him saying that Joe Joe is
Speaker 1: kind of close to returning. But if it's practicing, I mean,
Speaker 1: is this like a practice hole he's practicing too, maybe
Speaker 1: return this weekend or he's just coming back to practice.
Speaker 1: In general, I think it's probably premature to think he's
Speaker 1: gonna play in this game. Not saying it's impossible, but
Speaker 1: you know, something to keep an eye on. I'm not
Speaker 1: ready to say that he's definitely gonna play on Sunday though,
Speaker 1: but just positive that he's coming back to practice. It's
Speaker 1: really great. And actually McCarthy had an interesting quote. You know,
Speaker 1: he's obviously not going to give too much away, but
Speaker 1: he was asked, you know, with Zach back and maybe
Speaker 1: Joe coming back, can you maybe kick Zach out to
Speaker 1: tackle try different combinations? And he was basically like, we
Speaker 1: we don't have you know, we don't have the set five.
Speaker 1: We don't you know, he's big on continuity, but he's like,
Speaker 1: we don't have five guys at the five respective positions
Speaker 1: that we feel concrete about, so we're gonna work as
Speaker 1: many combinations as we can. So hopefully hopefully having Zach
Speaker 1: at the very least will allow them to maybe get
Speaker 1: creative with plugging this thing up. All right, let's move
Speaker 1: on to cheet Obey Owoozier. What's the status with him.
Speaker 1: McCarthy basically was like, yeah, I think he's got a
Speaker 1: good shot to play, which you know, coaches hate saying
Speaker 1: stuff like that, but he's supposed to do something today.
Speaker 1: And McCarthy was like, yeah, like, our goal is to
Speaker 1: have him ready for Sunday nights, so that more so,
Speaker 1: maybe even more so than zach Man. Maybe not more
Speaker 1: than Zach, but I think it would be huge to
Speaker 1: have Cheeto out there, just somebody who can competently handle
Speaker 1: his side of the field, because you might not think
Speaker 1: the world of Cheeto, but we've never seen him struggle
Speaker 1: with letting guys get behind him by five six yards.
Speaker 1: On a regular basis, he leads the team and interceptions, right,
Speaker 1: does he sure does? Oh god, there's only been one
Speaker 1: so and how many games does he mean? I mean,
Speaker 1: is that stat I still saw it? Does Dak still
Speaker 1: leading the NFL pass? I don't think so? I think
Speaker 1: I don't think no, not anymore. Last week he was
Speaker 1: before last week's games, he was, Yeah, well Cheeto still
Speaker 1: leads to teham and interceptions. Yeah. I thought it was, well,
Speaker 1: they might being like this week and they might be
Speaker 1: like this weekend with that because with Carson Wentz and
Speaker 1: him maybe throwing some interceptions. I mean, you can get
Speaker 1: a cheetah get his hands on that ball. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: I got to see that to believe it. But I
Speaker 1: like your optim talking about you know, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: jump in on this, Dave Sean Lee, you know, he
Speaker 1: was McCarthy was talking about him getting back to practice
Speaker 1: and all that saying the normal coach speak, and I
Speaker 1: thought he kind of just slipped in and said, you know,
Speaker 1: I think he has a good chance to play Sunday night,
Speaker 1: which I don't. I wasn't expecting that. I wasn't expecting
Speaker 1: him to come back to play, but you know, it
Speaker 1: would be it would be ironic if he did, because
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's where you have the surgery in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you think, I think that's where where
Speaker 1: all all those sporttorney surgeries are always done. To see
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia, So it would be interesting if he comes back,
Speaker 1: he plays, and they certainly need him. That's day. That's
Speaker 1: what I think. I think he sounds like he could play.
Speaker 1: You agree, Um, I mean, I agree with what you
Speaker 1: said about McCarthy. Uh, you know, I'm always reluctant to
Speaker 1: on Wednesday be like, yeah, he's definitely gonna play, but
Speaker 1: I think he's got a shot. He definitely has a shot.
Speaker 1: There's one other topic I wanted to hit before we
Speaker 1: end the show. Um let's talking about special teams and
Speaker 1: the punting situation. The Cowboys did sign a punter earlier
Speaker 1: this week, Hunter Niswander, and they said in the in
Speaker 1: in a press conference that they this player has always been,
Speaker 1: has been on their radars, guy they wanted to sign.
Speaker 1: They thought it's a good idea to have a guy
Speaker 1: that can both kick and punt that they would have
Speaker 1: on their practice squad. My question for you guys is
Speaker 1: should that be the case or should he really be
Speaker 1: here for the purpose of taking Chris Jones's job, Because
Speaker 1: you look at Chris Jones over the last two years,
Speaker 1: his punting has not been great. I'll throw some numbers
Speaker 1: at you. This year, he has ranked twenty ninth in
Speaker 1: the league in yards per punt at forty three point one.
Speaker 1: His longest fifty four, and that's thirty first in the league.
Speaker 1: Last year his average yards per punt was forty one
Speaker 1: point six and he was thirty first in the league
Speaker 1: at that and as long was thirty long was fifty eight,
Speaker 1: and he was thirty second at that the last two years.
Speaker 1: And you can go back even farther than and see
Speaker 1: he's regularly in the bottom at least bottom third of
Speaker 1: the league. Isn't at a point where the Cowboys really
Speaker 1: need to replace him because they're just not getting anything
Speaker 1: from him. From the standpoint of punts. Let's start first
Speaker 1: with you Amber, Well, this is something like you said,
Speaker 1: we've kind of been talking about about it and been
Speaker 1: wondering with like a question mark on there. And Fassil
Speaker 1: he did when he first was hiring and asked about
Speaker 1: the punter position. I mean, he did mentioned the injury
Speaker 1: that Chris was dealing with last year and kind of
Speaker 1: played through it or whatever. But this is something that
Speaker 1: I don't think it's injury related. Clearly, his efforts on
Speaker 1: the on the field have started to decline, and I
Speaker 1: think that the way that the fact that they said, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a player that has been in a radar,
Speaker 1: it's just a nice way to put it. Honestly, that's
Speaker 1: just them being nice and kind with that. But we
Speaker 1: should find out pretty soon if we start seeing that
Speaker 1: guy on the field. Plane Nick, well, yeah, they got
Speaker 1: to get better at the punning. I mean Chris Jones
Speaker 1: gets to also. I mean you think about this year
Speaker 1: where he's ranks twenty ninth, and I mean he's played
Speaker 1: four home games, is that right? I mean four home
Speaker 1: games and then it's at Seattle and at the rant.
Speaker 1: I mean, whether it's not been an issue kind of
Speaker 1: was in this game but thirty two yard punt I
Speaker 1: mean in the second quarter was the one where I
Speaker 1: mean that you had to get field positioned and that
Speaker 1: punts is not it's just not there. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just don't think he's got that boom on the ball
Speaker 1: like he like he did when he when he first
Speaker 1: got here. And he's been a great punter for a
Speaker 1: long time. He's been a good punter. He's sorry, Jason,
Speaker 1: he's been a good punter for a long time. But um,
Speaker 1: but when Dame Bailey left, that's when old buddy left.
Speaker 1: Well well true, true, well when we started we started there.
Speaker 1: It could be a back injury. But I mean, what
Speaker 1: one of the two, I mean, it could be both,
Speaker 1: could be both. If if we see what's his name,
Speaker 1: miss Winder, miss Winder, if we see him holding for
Speaker 1: kickoff for field goals, that's a hint that yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's where you know, because that's one thing you know
Speaker 1: Chris Jones does. But also, I'm sorry, Dave, but their
Speaker 1: point is is correct too when you get to the
Speaker 1: road games, because if they don't have a backup, I mean,
Speaker 1: you do need that. I think that's maybe they just
Speaker 1: did not forget to do that. Or something that you
Speaker 1: gotta have a backup you get on the road and
Speaker 1: something were to happen to test positive, somebody tests, you
Speaker 1: gotta have, you know, that's nice to have right now.
Speaker 1: They're not really in games where you know, kicking is
Speaker 1: really a actor at this point. But but I get
Speaker 1: your point. Yeah, that's true. Your point again, you don't
Speaker 1: want you. I just am I am I the only
Speaker 1: one that like, I mean, I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: they're lying, honestly. That's that's my that's my takeaway is
Speaker 1: maybe they're not ready to cut Chris Jones right now,
Speaker 1: but they're like, oh, like we thought it might be
Speaker 1: a good idea to have a guy already ready. Well,
Speaker 1: you didn't think it was a good idea for training
Speaker 1: camp or the first seven weeks of the season. Like literally,
Speaker 1: when they found out they had to cut their roster
Speaker 1: to eighty for training camp, the extra specialists were the
Speaker 1: first to go, Like they were the first guys that
Speaker 1: they got rid of, like, oh, we don't we don't
Speaker 1: have room for that, we don't need that on our
Speaker 1: roster during training camp, and then seven weeks of the season,
Speaker 1: you know, didn't it wasn't a good enough idea that
Speaker 1: you did it any of these other weeks and now
Speaker 1: after a month and a half of Chris Jones being
Speaker 1: pedestrian too, you know bad now it's a good idea,
Speaker 1: Like I that, No, that's that's not the case. They're like,
Speaker 1: you know, we might have to do something about this,
Speaker 1: and we should get the guy we like in here
Speaker 1: before somebody else does like that. That's what I think
Speaker 1: is happening. Yeah, I suspect they did the same thing
Speaker 1: I did after that thirty two yard punt. They probably
Speaker 1: are like on the headsets like, hey man on Monday,
Speaker 1: we might need to see if what we can find
Speaker 1: out there, because this might be an opportunity for us
Speaker 1: to move on. Yeah. Yeah, I just think you know,
Speaker 1: a team like this that struggles as bad as they
Speaker 1: do in so many areas, that's an area that, as
Speaker 1: much as anything could help you right now, that's an
Speaker 1: area that could help you. It could actually create situations
Speaker 1: where maybe you can flip the field because your offense
Speaker 1: isn't really moving the ball at all, and you have
Speaker 1: an opportunity to not give the opposing offense great field
Speaker 1: position in stay of thirty two yard punt gives them
Speaker 1: the ball at the forty Like, that's the kind of
Speaker 1: situation that you just really can't afford on a team
Speaker 1: that's just bad in so many other areas. All Right,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you guys joining us. We'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We'll be ready to we'll be outside. Actually, tomorrow gotta
Speaker 1: be interesting because all four of us will be in
Speaker 1: the same location for a show for the first time
Speaker 1: in what seven eight months. It'll be really nice to
Speaker 1: be somewhere we can all just have a conversation in
Speaker 1: Dave's own isn't acting up and it'll just be It'll
Speaker 1: be a wonderful show. It will be cold, so Amber,
Speaker 1: make sure you were about five layers. But we will
Speaker 1: have a great time, and we'll hope you guys will
Speaker 1: join us. Till then. For Nick Eaton, Dave helm and
Speaker 1: Amber Garcia, I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break
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