WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Addition By Subtraction? 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:06.320 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:18.040 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Let's go. Are you 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:22.200 ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:26.520 Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:30.720 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:37.000 Wa with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:41.360 Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday. It is Wednesday, October twenty eighth, 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:45.680 twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode number fifty three. Welcome to 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.640 the latest edition of The Break Worldlife from the s 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.960 WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. Got Nick David Amber 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:55.360 with me and we're ready talk some Cowboys Cowboys football, 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:58.360 if you guys for the next forty five minutes. We 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:02.080 will be joined by Bucky Brooks in the second segment today. Well, 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:05.560 he will help us start breaking down the Philadelphia Eagles 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:08.679 will talk about their offense versus the Cowboys defense. But 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:12.080 before we get to that, we've got news related items 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.760 we need to talk about. There are some personal changes happening. 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:17.600 We alluded to that yesterday on the show based upon 0:01:17.640 --> 0:01:19.840 some of the comments that Jerry Jones gave in his 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:23.560 interview on one one five Dot three The Fan and 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:28.440 the first Domino falls yesterday with the Cowboys trading Everson Griffin. 0:01:29.280 --> 0:01:31.520 Dave talking to me about what the Cowboys got out 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:35.800 of this trade deal. So it's a conditional pick, which 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.319 is the type of thing you hear in deals like this. 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:40.360 It sounds like it can be as good as a 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:44.920 fifth rounder or a sixth. And the thing is, we 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:47.600 don't know what those parameters are. Maybe it's a certain 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:49.800 number of games, and maybe he has to sit hit 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.640 a certain number of threshold, you know, a threshold of 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:56.520 snaps or sacks or games on the active roster. You know. 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.920 I would imagine if the Lions cut him in three weeks, 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.400 you're probably not getting a round pick. So we'll have 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.920 to see what that is. But they're gonna get a 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:07.919 Day three pick in return. Amber whether it's a fifth 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:10.880 or sixth round pick. Was it worth it? Is it 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:13.520 worth that to to get rid of I guess a 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.320 guy that's although he hasn't been great, I think this 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:18.960 last game may have been the best game that he's 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:22.040 played so far, not really seeing what he could become, 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:26.320 is it worth it? Well, if you don't really know that, 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:29.000 it wasn't going to work out with him then then yeah, 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:31.440 I mean, you can try to get whatever you can 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:34.440 get it. It's better than anything then, you know, than 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:37.240 just cutting him. But it makes me wonder, I mean, 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.320 are the Cowboys really better right now? I don't know, 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.360 it's a question mark. I'm I know we are gonna 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.680 get to see probably more Bradley and I and Randy Gregory, 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:50.720 but I wonder how they're gonna start developing with getting 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:53.600 more snaps on the field. I know that Nick and 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.600 I hope he can talk about this. I know that 0:02:56.680 --> 0:03:00.320 we're certain things that that Nick has mentioned and as 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:03.560 far as maybe his attitude and the things that he 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:07.440 brings around the team, some things that we haven't been 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.840 able to see Bud. Because Nick does travel with the team, 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:14.120 he's getting a little better feel of what the dynamic 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.480 is over there. So sorry, Nick, to put you on 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.320 the spot, but I think that that's something that that's 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:25.040 also important. Yeah, I do, thank you for the said sorry. No, 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:28.200 I mean, it's you know what, that's That's why I 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.240 guess that's one of the reasons why I'm there. I mean, 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.680 I mean that that that and I'm and I'm again 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:34.960 I've said it. I'm very grateful to be on the 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.200 trips and I miss you guys being there with with me. 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:42.240 For sure. I do. I definitely do, trust me, um. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.480 But but yeah, there are some things that I don't 0:03:46.520 --> 0:03:49.800 necessarily like to see. But that doesn't you know, you 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.320 can't judge by people just by what they what they 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:54.360 do and how they you know, walk around and all that. 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:57.440 It's a different mentality when you're playing football. You know, 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:00.240 these guys could be paralyzed at any snap, so to 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:02.080 go through a game and all that, you know, we 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.800 think they should be mad and upset and throwing things 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:07.560 around and punching doors and stuff like that, but they 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:10.280 don't act like that. And that's okay. He is, he's 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:12.920 in that other side. I mean he's he's this is 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:16.520 eleven year career for him. So he was walking. I 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:18.800 saw him after the game. It didn't look like that 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:22.640 game bothered him, and that bothers fans because that game 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.040 is still bothering some people that are listening right now. 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:28.120 They're still mad, and it does. It didn't seem I 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:30.440 could be wrong. He was very professional when he did 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:32.520 his interview afterwards. He was he said, yes, I'll do it. 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:34.360 A pr asked him he said, yeah, I'll go do it, 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.160 but he did. It doesn't seem like he really cared 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.679 that much, and and and about some of the other things. 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:41.920 I could be wrong there if I am, I'm sorry, 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.480 But you know, if they say perception is reality, then 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:49.719 the perception is is that you know this, this is 0:04:49.800 --> 0:04:52.920 how they were playing. Didn't bother him that much. I'm 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.640 not sure that that that's why he was dealt, but 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:59.119 you know, and I didn't like Mike McCarthy's press conference today. 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:04.160 He said he it's been excellent. I well, then why 0:05:04.200 --> 0:05:06.120 are you training away an excellent player if you're two 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.440 and five? I don't understand that. So why can't you 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:13.600 just say, you know, yeah, that's a dad don't the 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.800 team captain thing because Xavier Woods said a comment he 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:19.440 shouldn't have said, and he gets to be the captain. 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:21.880 And then Everson Griffin, who clearly wasn't as happy, and 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.360 he gets to be a captain too. I don't like that. 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:26.480 I don't like what McCarthy's doing with the captains. I 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:30.200 don't think it's a good uh, you know, whatever, whatever 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:33.080 he's doing. I don't think that that works. But all 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.560 in all, I don't think they're better. I'm sorry, I'm rambling. 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:37.960 I don't think they're better than they were, But that's 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:39.640 not what it's about. I think that this is an 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.800 addition by subtraction. They wanted to get rid of him, Dave, 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.960 do you think that they gave this enough time to 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:49.640 see if he could play and fit here and be 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.080 an option even for the future, because we know right now, 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:55.000 again he hadn't played great and they're halfway through the season. 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.359 It's not like that was gonna change a ton, But 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.039 do you think they gave it enough time to see 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.320 if maybe he was an as a player that they 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:06.040 wanted to keep a few two years. I mean that 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:07.800 that's not really up to them, is it. I mean, 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:09.400 he's a free agent at the end of the year, 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:12.800 and anybody that wants him can sign him. Um it. 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:16.159 You know, it's hard to it's hard to judge with 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:19.039 the access that we have, but it didn't seem like 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.039 it was a great fit. They dealt him before the 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:23.320 halfway point of the season. Seems to suggest that it 0:06:23.360 --> 0:06:26.200 wasn't a great fit. You know, I think I think 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:29.560 he's still a good player, but for this team, you know, 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:31.840 for you know, we talk about you know, Mike McCarthy 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.320 is is still going to need to build this team 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:37.480 in his image the way that he wants it. I 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:40.039 think you're more likely to do that with draft picks 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:43.360 than with thirty year old pass rushers who are way 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.279 closer to the end of their career than the beginning. 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:50.080 So yeah, I think they gave it plenty of I mean, 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:52.040 you know this, this is going to be an uphill 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:56.440 battle for this team to be, to be a playoff contender, 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:58.360 to be anything like that. So I would rather get 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.120 a draft pick than that he wants to hang around 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.719 when this season is over with. Yeah, I agree, Dave. 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:07.200 I think this was this was a piece that was 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:09.640 one of the final pieces to go try to win 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:11.480 a Super Bowl. And I mean, as funny as that 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.680 sounds now, but that's exactly what this was. It was like, hey, 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.880 they got everything in place. The offense is great, they 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:18.960 need a little bit more on defense. You know, Let's 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.920 see if he can be what Robert Quinn was for 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:24.760 this defense. And you know, and then if that's not 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:26.840 going to happen and it's not his fault, but it's 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.560 not going to happen, then he's a progress stopper and 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:32.680 Amber mentioned an I and Gregory that's what all the 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:36.360 fans want to see, and and and McCarthy, you know, 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.560 probably frustrated them by saying, oh, Dorin's Armstrong would be 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.239 ahead of that, but Dorn's Armstrong is gonna get some 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:46.520 some work in as well. Yeah, okay, Um, so that 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.760 was they've Oh, that didn't mean to be like that 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.960 too exciting, My bad. Um, so they've they've already made 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.720 the deal for Wheverson Griffin. There are reports out there, 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:58.920 um that don Terry Poe and Darryl Worley have been 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:03.760 told that they will essentially be traded or or or 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:07.080 released here soon. Yeah. I think it's important really, and 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.480 I know most fans might know this. It's important to 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:13.680 know that this show, this show, we take this show 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.600 live right now at eleven thirty Central. It's important to 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.600 know because you're you're gonna be driving tonight or whatever. 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:20.920 They're not gonna be on the team. They're not and 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:22.640 everyone's gonna know that, and they're like, what are they 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:24.920 talking about. We take this show right now. The practice 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:26.920 is going on, and I don't think they're there. And 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:29.880 McCarthy would not would not answer the question and ask 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:32.640 exactly so I think I think for there's smoke, there's 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.640 certainly fire here. But I asked that question or I 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.160 bring that up because when you look at it, Nick, 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.040 you and I were having this conversation before we went 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.640 on the air. You look at the free agent that 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:46.400 the cow free agents or just veteran signings that the 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:49.360 Cowboys had this offseason, there are only three that I 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.720 can recall that are still on this team. You got 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:54.600 Alden Smith, Blake Bell and Greg's Airline that are still here, 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.880 Gerald McCoy and Haha Clinton Dix didn't even make it 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.719 to the regular season, and Everson Griffin. You got don 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.680 Terry Poe, and you got Darryl Worley who presumably won't 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.800 make it halfway through the season. Does this say something 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:14.160 and highlight maybe there's a problem with Dallas's philosophy and 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.520 strategy when it comes to how they deal with free 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:20.480 agents and how they deal with offseason veteran signings of 0:09:20.600 --> 0:09:24.200 players heading into their upcoming season. Let's start first with you, 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:28.679 Amber Well. I think this is something that we can 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:31.719 be a little bit more judgmental on because one you're 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:34.760 speaking about veteran guys, and two this is way before 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:38.959 or not way before, but before really the pandemic actually 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:43.920 fully hit us. So one. The Cowboys are great at 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:47.360 bringing in talent when it comes to the draft. The 0:09:47.360 --> 0:09:51.440 scouting team I think do an amazing job, but I've 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.840 never ever liked anything that they really do in free 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.360 agency when it comes to veteran I feel that they're 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.679 always trying to save money. They're always trying to be 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:03.560 a little too conservative, not really trying to bring someone 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:07.160 that's like super impact for a big name guy. And 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:11.720 to me from it, hopefully my memory is serving me wrong, 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:15.440 but they haven't been that successful when it comes to 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.480 free agency as far as the guys being really good 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:23.040 for the team once they come in. So um, you 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:26.480 guys have hopefully better memory than me. But that's just 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.800 how I see it, where they just don't don't really 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:32.439 And I don't want to say try that hard, because 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.080 I know they work really hard, but it just feels 0:10:35.120 --> 0:10:39.880 that I just wish they would be more extravagant when 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:44.600 it comes to free agency. Dave, I don't even want 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:47.400 them to be extravagant. I just want them to be competitive. Yeah, 0:10:47.440 --> 0:10:50.080 I mean, this isn't this isn't new. I think we've 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.320 realized there was a flaw in their strategy for a 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.360 few years at this point. I think I think I officially, 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.880 I officially jumped off the bandwagon of the way they 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:01.840 do free agency when they wouldn't give Tyrn Matthew a 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.280 one year, you know, eight million dollar deal when he 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:07.120 was coming off an injury. And that's not that's not 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:09.080 when he signed for big money with the Chiefs. That 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:12.280 was when the Texans got him for pennies for the 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.520 caliber a player that he is, and their unwillingness to 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.520 get involved in that really turned me off. Um, I 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.040 get it. Free agency is dangerous. You don't want to 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:22.880 all you don't want to be the team that's handing 0:11:22.880 --> 0:11:25.320 out the most money, and free agency it very rarely works. 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.640 I think Stephen Jones is right about that. But you 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:30.079 have to be able to strike a balance, and and 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:32.320 they haven't. They haven't really been willing to do that. 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:35.599 They preferred to bargain hunt. I do feel bad. You know, 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.040 they gave Gerald McCoy a decent amount of money and 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:39.880 that could have been a really good signing. It's it's 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.320 crappy luck for them that they didn't get anything out 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:45.040 of him. But for the most part, you know, Aldon 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:48.040 Smith has been a revelation, but like, if that's your 0:11:48.080 --> 0:11:53.000 strategy to fix your pass rush, that never sat well 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:55.600 with me. Is like banking on a long shot. Is 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:59.280 this great strategy? Or you know the other guys like haha, 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:01.280 Clinton Dix was a big name because he was a 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.160 first round pick, but plenty of people questioned whether he 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:07.360 was actually an upgrade or we can take this thing back. 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.600 You know, Alan Hearns and Deonte Thompson being your big 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:14.559 signings to help replace Dez Bryant. I'm not sure about 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.880 that one. You know, we can talk about the problems 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:20.040 with swing tackle, which is an issue with how many 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.839 injuries that they've had at the tackle position over the 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:25.320 last four years. I think you've got to be willing 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:27.000 to spend a little bit more money. And this isn't 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.360 this isn't new. You know, we can go down the 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.080 list of yeah, you know, bring up the Chiefs again. 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.520 Think about the additions they've made in free agency to 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:37.880 shore up their team. Think about you know, the Eagles. 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.920 A big chunk of how they built that Super Bowl 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.440 team in twenty seventeen was with smart free agent signings. 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:45.520 So you got to be able to do both. You 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.640 got to draft well, but you have to identify things 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:50.720 that you're willing to spend money on. And I don't 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:52.960 think the Cowboys have done a good enough job of that. 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:55.320 Nick with all the big money that they're spending to 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.160 go to what Day's talking about, all the big money 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:58.760 that they're having to spend on some of the veteran 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:01.040 guys that they are keeping on the team, do they 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:03.680 have the money in free agency to be able to 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.920 be as free as I think we all are requesting 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:08.959 that they be. We're all wanting them to spend a 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:10.800 little bit more money. But do they have the money 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.200 when they're having to keep these other guys big money? 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.880 Not really, I mean, and that's and the Dave said it, 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.040 and I mean Amber said it too. They that's not 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:20.920 been their philosophy. Their their philosophy has been to try 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:22.640 to build through the draft. I think through the free 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:25.280 agency they're trying to patch holes and so uh and 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.560 and and like like we've all said, bargain hunt, you know, 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:30.920 try you know, and what get what you pay for? Yeah, 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.439 you know, I mean you know where you want to shop, 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.920 if you want to shop there, good luck, you know, 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:39.480 they might get something but don't be surprised when it 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:41.360 doesn't work out. And you know, I think we all 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.160 kind of fell into that. I know I did. I 0:13:43.160 --> 0:13:45.600 thought this was going to be, you know, much better signings. 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.280 But I mean their questions were out there why Carolina 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.000 was so bad on defense last year? And Gerald McCoy 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:52.680 and Dan Terry Pope were sitting right in the middle 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:56.240 of that of that line. So uh, you know. But 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.400 but I'll say this, I had somebody tell me, and 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:03.480 this is scary. Daryl Worley was the highest graded cornerback 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.520 they had last year when they raided the cornerbacks for 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:09.079 the he played for the Raiders, and then all the 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.640 cornerbacks that they had on the team, Daryl Whorley was 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:15.120 the highest graded player that they had. Wait, he was 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.800 when you had all the quarterbacks, all the cornerbacks on 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.360 the Dallas team. Yeah, and then Daryl Whorley he had 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.560 the highest grade from line from Jordan Lewis Cheetah and 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.840 the guys from the Cowboys and then also yeah, wow, 0:14:25.000 --> 0:14:27.880 but he he might have been. That just goes to 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:31.120 show where where they are. And because he hasn't played 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:32.880 well here, let's let's be clear, he has not played 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:35.160 well here. Don Terry Poe has not played well here, 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:37.840 So I don't I don't think these are situations where 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.280 you're talking about guys that came in here and they 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:42.160 played pretty good, but it was just a bad team. 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:43.800 Like they were a part, they were a big part 0:14:43.840 --> 0:14:46.200 of the problem. Did Worley make a play? I mean, 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.480 like Worley did be on the team. Yeah, it's good 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:53.040 a few of those. Did he that's my line? Thank you? 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:55.560 You set me up? Did with your line? Did he? 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:58.840 I mean, did Poe do anything other than I mean, 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.080 he must have done on the goal line stand? Poe 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.920 did his job. He had to. You're the nose tackle 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:05.800 and they ran a quarterb any nose tackle when they 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.240 do a quarterback sneak and they don't score. The nose 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.200 tackle did his job. He must have done something. I 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.760 got you. Yeah, but he I mean, he had headlines 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.240 for other reasons and that and that's that's fine. That's 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.520 that's that's just the only headline he had, is what 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.600 I'm saying. Man, I think that's irrelevant to the what 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.360 he did on the field. Like he just did not 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:26.560 perform on the field. And I think it was very 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:28.960 very apparent that he didn't perform on the field. 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We are in the second segment of 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.600 The Break Life from the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:28.200 We're joined by Bucky Brooks of NFL Network, and Bucky, 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:30.960 I think you caught a little bit of the conversation 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:32.800 we had there in the last segment where we were 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:36.960 talking about the Cowboys philosophy when it comes to free 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:40.600 agent signings and veteran signings in the offseason, and I 0:18:40.600 --> 0:18:42.600 thought you had an interesting perspective. Tell us a little 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:44.280 bit about what you think could be going on here 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:47.840 and why Dallas has had such bad luck, particularly this 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:52.320 year with some of these guys that they signed. Free 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.199 agents are always tough because what you're doing is you're 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:58.000 looking at another team's player and a player playing in 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:00.760 another scheme and trying to project how he would play 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.160 in your scheme and how he would fit. You also 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:06.199 have to figure out what is his locker room demeanor, like, 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.520 what's his football character life in terms of blending it. 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:11.760 In this year, there was so much flux in terms 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:14.800 of the offseason program. So you have Mike Nolan and 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:18.240 Mike McCarthy, those guys coming in. Mike Nolan telling the 0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:21.360 personnel department, here's what I like. These are my ideal 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:25.080 traits that I wanted certain positions the Cowboys listening to 0:19:25.200 --> 0:19:28.040 him and then going and trying to shop to find 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:31.000 guys to fit. And the thing that the personnel department 0:19:31.040 --> 0:19:33.960 didn't have, they didn't have any film. They hadn't seen 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:37.640 that scheme play out in real life, so they didn't 0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.040 really see what kind of players can make that scheme 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:42.720 come to life. And so you take some chances on 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:44.719 some guys and then you get him here and it 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:48.360 doesn't necessarily work out, be it because of the football 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.840 character or the playing ability. For whatever reason, it didn't 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:54.639 work out, But I kind of applaud them, because I 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:56.800 feel like now was the time that you have to 0:19:56.800 --> 0:20:00.320 pull the plug on this because it wasn't going any where. 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:02.400 And if you're Mike McCarthy and you're going to put 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:04.560 your stamp on this team, the best way to do 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:06.159 it is to do it with the young guys. You 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.920 gotta give those young guys an opportunity to play because 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:12.040 you still have a chance to change their habits. You 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:14.560 can change the habits. Have ever seen Griffin, Daryl Worley, 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:16.840 and don Arry Pole. They are what they are as 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.320 players and as people. All Right, So let's go ahead 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:22.479 and jump into the conversation around the Cowboys and the Eagles. 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:25.480 So they were focusing on the Eagles offense versus the 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:29.040 Dallas defense. Talk to me about the what is the 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:33.320 greatest strength of this Philadelphia offense? Obviously, I know that 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:36.960 Carson Wentz is the really the guy that it's kind 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:38.840 of based on right now because they've had so many 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:42.119 injuries at the skill positions. But outside of him and 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:45.560 kind of using what he does well, who is that 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:49.400 next player or position that you think provides a strength 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:53.560 for this Philadelphia offense. It's funny, man, because I feel 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:55.520 like the conversation has been the same every time I 0:20:55.520 --> 0:20:58.520 come on. Particularly we were talking about nfcast teams. They're 0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:01.560 a team that they don't really have marquee players. Zach 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:04.800 Ertz right now is on i R. He's unavailable, Dallas 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:08.280 Goddard maybe he comes back, whatever he's been injured. They 0:21:08.400 --> 0:21:10.560 really have been able to do it with practice squad 0:21:10.600 --> 0:21:13.800 guys that have been elevated. So Travis Fogum is someone 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:16.760 that they have found and he has been the leader 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:20.080 receiver for them. Two hundred and fifty seven yards three touchdowns. 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:23.840 His totals since Week four are the third most International 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:27.160 Football League. Greg Ward has pitched in and fully made 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:30.400 the conversion from being a quarterback to being a standout 0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:34.040 slide receiver. He has three touchdowns. Outside of that, I mean, 0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:36.320 it's a hodgepig of people that just kind of come 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:39.639 in and out of the game. Boston Scott, Jason Crum, 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:43.640 a bunch of different guys that are making contributions, and 0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:46.800 Carson Wentz is kind of making it go. But I'm 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:49.720 gonna be honest with you, he has not played at 0:21:49.760 --> 0:21:53.640 a high level. It is a bit of a Jucklin 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:56.680 Hyde scenario. When you get him, he'll play good. In 0:21:56.800 --> 0:21:59.240 the first quarter, He'll disappeared the second and third quarter, 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:02.160 then Rea here in the fourth quarter and play great, 0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:04.359 and that has been good enough to get them close 0:22:04.600 --> 0:22:09.400 to the winner circle sometimes. So you know, it's one 0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:12.400 of those games where I don't know where the production 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:14.960 is going to come from the Eagles, but they just 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:16.600 kind of find a way to get it done, and 0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:21.879 they've been playing better of late. Lucky, when things aren't 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:24.399 going too great in your own team, you tend to 0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:26.840 start looking at opponents and kind of look at the 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:29.600 things that they're doing, and they're starting to be successful 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:32.520 at I think that with the Eagles, you can argue that, yeah, 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:35.359 they haven't been a great team at all this season, 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:39.000 but I feel that they are starting to trend upwards 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:41.800 and doing some things a little bit better. What would 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:44.600 be an area that you would say that you've seen 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:48.199 some good improvement throughout this season and how were they 0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:52.080 able to do that? I think the best thing that 0:22:52.119 --> 0:22:55.239 they have done is they've tried as much as they 0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:58.919 can to continue to innovate to give their quarterback the 0:22:58.960 --> 0:23:01.520 best chance to succeed. I would say that Carson Wentz 0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:03.560 has really been struggling. Obviously, you look at the number 0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:07.119 of turnovers that he's had. He is not playing to 0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:10.200 the level of expectation for a franchise quarterback, much less 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:13.080 someone that was taken second. Overall, they have added more 0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:16.000 tempo to this offense. They tried to go faster. He 0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:19.280 appears to play better when they're operating at a quick 0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:22.359 because it simplifies things not only for the offense but 0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:26.600 for the defense. But the best thing that they can 0:23:26.640 --> 0:23:29.240 do is to get him to kind of play within himself. 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:32.560 He has a tendency to make these hero plays and 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:36.320 these crazy throws, to going across the field and doing 0:23:36.320 --> 0:23:39.240 those things, and that's when the turnovers are coming. He 0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:41.560 also has tried to be something that he's not. He 0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:46.240 has tried to fancy himself as a traditional drop back passer, 0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:48.960 and his game is not such where he can do that. 0:23:49.240 --> 0:23:52.120 He has to lean into his athleticism. He has to run, 0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:54.480 he has to get on the move and make some 0:23:54.560 --> 0:24:00.119 plays outside the pocket for him to fully maximize his talents. 0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:01.639 He said, not good enough just to stand in the 0:24:01.680 --> 0:24:04.560 pocket and deal that. That has not been the strength 0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:08.359 of his game. Bucky, I'm gonna I'm gonna take a 0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:11.600 page out of Knicks playbook, Like, at this point I 0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:14.359 care a lot less about what the Eagles are doing 0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:17.359 than I've like then obviously what we're seeing from the 0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:21.880 stats defense, I'm curious in your mind. Let's just assume 0:24:22.000 --> 0:24:24.959 you know, Everson Griffin's already gone. I think Daryl Worley 0:24:25.000 --> 0:24:28.280 and Dontari Pope won't be long for the roster either. 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:32.159 If you take those three guys off this defense and 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:35.680 put three younger guys, like even if they're not as 0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:38.720 experienced or maybe not as talented right now, like, can 0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:42.280 this defense be a little bit sounder with just young 0:24:42.320 --> 0:24:45.920 guys doing what they're asked to be doing? Like? Can 0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:48.920 I find some optimism there? I don't know, but help me. Yeah? 0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:51.120 Absolutely so. One of my best friends is a former 0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:53.960 cowboy Dennis Thurman, who played under Tom Landry guys, and 0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:56.119 he says that one thing that he always took from 0:24:56.160 --> 0:24:59.000 coach Landry is there's no difference between a guy who 0:24:59.080 --> 0:25:01.080 won't do it and a guy who can do it. 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:04.120 The guys who were there before, they weren't doing what 0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:06.760 was being asked to them, so you better serve to 0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:09.359 put in the young guys and let them have a 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:13.320 crack act. Also, we've been waiting for six or seven 0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:16.960 weeks for someone to be the sacrificial lamb. Someone has 0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:20.199 to get cut. So everyone understands that there's a certain 0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:25.040 standard of an expectation what players should be doing. So 0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:28.040 now that you remove three guys, you can best believe 0:25:28.119 --> 0:25:30.960 that the locker room understands that, oh, we at an 0:25:31.000 --> 0:25:34.200 earthen level. And so I think with the young guys, 0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:35.960 I think you have a chance to if you're Mike 0:25:36.040 --> 0:25:40.720 Nolan to be a little more, you can teach them. 0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:42.720 You can have a bigger impression on them, a bigger 0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:45.480 impact on the way that they fight, and that in 0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.080 itself they help them. I think what you want to 0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:49.879 look for may not show up in the win column. 0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:52.639 Like Nolan Mike McCarthy have to do, is you have 0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:54.960 to focus on what's one area that we can prove 0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:57.760 on this week, whether that's running to the ball or 0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:01.360 not letting the ball overhead. Let's focus on that and 0:26:01.400 --> 0:26:03.800 if we can slowly piece of these things over a 0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:06.840 three or four week period, the defense will eventually begin 0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:09.720 to play better and maybe the wins will come. If 0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:12.080 you can just focus on clear up some of the 0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:14.639 little issues supposed to try and take on how can 0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:18.000 we fix the entire defense? What's the road line look 0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:20.600 like right now? I know that they're tackles I mean 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:24.480 Cowboys two tackles out, but I think they've also had 0:26:24.520 --> 0:26:27.439 two tackles out, maybe not together, but it feels like 0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:31.439 that they're really banged up as well. A mess. It 0:26:31.600 --> 0:26:35.040 is a mess. Two teams that are really struggling. The 0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:38.280 former rugby fair Jordan I'm allowed to has been starting 0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:42.040 left tackle and he is certainly talented. Inexperience that has 0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:44.959 hurt them. They cut recently cut Jamal Brown, and they 0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:47.960 put in a rookie who was struggling inside the guard. 0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:50.800 And so Carson Wentz has been sacked twenty eight times, 0:26:50.880 --> 0:26:53.240 tied for the most in the league. The office line 0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:55.920 is vulnerable, and so all the issues that we can 0:26:55.960 --> 0:26:59.760 talk about offensively for the Cowboys, we can spit right 0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:03.639 back at the Eagles. The challenge will be which defensive 0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:07.680 coordinator takes advantage of the vulnerabilities of the offensive line. 0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:10.440 We've seen Jim Schwartz for the Eagles dollars up. Will 0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:14.320 Mike Nolan have confidence in the back end to press 0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:16.719 and push the envelope and say, hey, we're gonna come 0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:19.520 after Carson went when he's been under pressure, he is 0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:22.879 really melted and will under pressure. The Cowboys have to 0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:26.520 find a way to create pressure. On that note, Bucky, 0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:29.439 when you look at the fact that Wins has been 0:27:29.480 --> 0:27:32.440 sacked twenty eight times, is this the kind of game 0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:34.560 when you look at what you've seen and I actually 0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:37.160 personally think that Tank Lawrence has actually played a little 0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.399 better the last few weeks. Is this a game that 0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.320 becomes somewhat of it? And I know it's gonna sound 0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:43.720 really crazy, so everyone's gonna laugh, but kind of a 0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:46.879 get right game for the Cowboys pass rush because you know, again, 0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:50.480 it maybe differencing an offensive line that might just be 0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:52.600 beat up as the one that they've been practicing against 0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:57.679 all these weeks. You know, I'm domistic that it is. 0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:00.760 But then I was outmis last week that why football 0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:03.280 team's offense was so bad that that would be the 0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:05.520 get right game, and they ran for twenty yards. And 0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:09.040 so the first thing that has to happen. Dallas has 0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:11.200 to know that Philadelphias are going to try and run 0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:13.600 the football at them because they put bad film on 0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:17.879 the They've seen teams that can't run like Washington. The 0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:20.679 Giants have a level of success from the football. The 0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:22.520 first thing they're gonna do it They're gonna to defense 0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:24.560 see if they can they can stop the run. If 0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:27.600 they can stop the run, then tack Lawrence and Aldi 0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:29.920 Smith and those guys would have an opportunity to hunt. 0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.040 The priority has to be we have to run. We 0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:35.359 have to force the Eagles to be dimensional. If you 0:28:35.359 --> 0:28:37.360 can make the Eagles one pension you can get after 0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:40.480 Carson Wentz, and Carson Wentz will give the ball away, 0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:43.880 but the Stars were stopping the run. Well, adding to 0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:47.680 that question, and be honest with this, how confident are 0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:52.520 you on the voice defense ability to whether they end 0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:56.640 up stacking Carson Wentz and then recovering the ball or 0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:59.240 trying to get their hands on a back throw that 0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:01.880 he throws in their How comes they are you that 0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:06.000 the Cowboys stefense can actually get their hands on that ball. Oh, 0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:08.840 I'm not confident. I'm not real confident right now because 0:29:08.840 --> 0:29:11.400 I haven't I haven't seen. But but what I'm doing 0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:13.120 is I'm trying to be faithful. I'm trying to have 0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:15.560 enough faith that at some point the players are good 0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:17.600 enough to get it done. But I do believe we 0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:20.640 can talk about Mike Nolan simplifying and those things. I 0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:22.239 think this has kind of been a wake up call 0:29:22.320 --> 0:29:24.960 for everybody because when you start removing players, I think 0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:29.240 everyone understands where they're sitting. And for Mike Nolan, this 0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:31.960 is a huge challenge because how do you get a 0:29:32.000 --> 0:29:34.479 group of guys to believe in your scheme when they 0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:37.920 haven't seen a lot of success early on? Where does 0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:40.280 that come from? And so he has to figure out 0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:44.400 which guys are his leaders, which guys can convey his message. 0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.120 He has to convince those guys first and hope that 0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:49.840 they can convince their teammates that and we have to 0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:52.640 play as one. But right now, no, I'm not very 0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:55.760 optimistic or confident, but I'm hoping over the course of 0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:58.120 the game, you get a couple of good plays to happen, 0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:02.400 and then maybe it spreads like wildfire. I want to 0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:05.280 ask you about Jalen Rager, but we don't know if 0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:06.920 he's going to play. I think I read he's coming 0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:09.720 back to practice this week, but not a guarantee to play. 0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:13.920 But I do remember the other rookie, John high Tower, 0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:16.800 has got a pretty good reputation for being a deep 0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.080 ball guy and made a really great play in the 0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:22.240 Giants game last week. So am I right to think 0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:24.120 that he's who I need to be worried about getting 0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:26.160 behind the defense this week? Well, I mean, I think 0:30:26.200 --> 0:30:28.000 you have to be worried about everybody, because I don't 0:30:28.000 --> 0:30:31.720 think it's even I think it's anybody. I think the 0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:33.720 main thing is just trying to get the young guys 0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:36.880 to do exactly what has asked to him. And you know, 0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:40.480 whether it's Trevon Diggs or anybody they put Anthony Brown, 0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:43.480 whoever's playing outside, I think the number one priority for 0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:45.880 the past defense, Let's keep the ball in front of 0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:48.200 the defense. Don't let the ball flow over the head 0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:51.400 because big plays of what gets you beat in this league, 0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:54.680 like the seventy yard bombs, to just letting it go 0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:57.560 completely over your head, that has been the biggest problem. 0:30:57.840 --> 0:30:59.560 If you keep the ball in front of Yeah, they 0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:01.280 nfitely diamond down the field and you can find a 0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.080 way to get a stop in the red zone. Sure 0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:05.000 they get threes, but they don't get sevens. But when 0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:08.520 you give up the bombs, it's demoralizing and I just 0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:10.680 think for a team that is already teetering on the 0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:15.520 brink from a confident standpoint, just the big plays just 0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:19.960 absolutely crushed him. And so regardless of whether it's Greg 0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:23.160 Ward or Travis Folgum who was really emerged, or John 0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:25.920 hog Tower, the Cowboys have to focus on keeping the 0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:27.720 ball in front of the defense, make them drive the 0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:30.800 length of the film. Don't get them any cheats. All right, 0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:34.120 here's my dilemma, Bucky. You talked about confidential. Also we're 0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:37.480 also talking about guys from you know, the future. You're 0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.760 getting these young guys ready to play. So Cheeto comes 0:31:40.800 --> 0:31:43.720 back this week, Chito Woozier, What are you doing with 0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.360 Trevon Diggs? Do you want to do you want to 0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:48.760 put him on nickel? Do you want to bench him? 0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.520 Do you want to maybe hurt his confidence? I mean, 0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:53.720 I mean you can't. You got to stop the big plays. 0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.640 But how are you handling him back in the mix? 0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:58.880 And maybe Anthony Brown or what are you doing at corner? 0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:02.320 If you're the Cowboys right now, right now, all hands 0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:04.440 on deck. So I would put Cheetah in him. Cheetah 0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.040 as ready and available to play, because what I need 0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:09.320 I need guys who can take the information that's been 0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:12.920 given in meetings and executed. Dix has struggled and he's 0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:14.840 given up a ton of big plays. And even though 0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:16.719 I want to build him up because he is the future, 0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:19.520 right now, I got to solve the bleeding. And if 0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:21.600 Cheeto knows exactly what to do, if he can keep 0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:22.960 the ball in front, if he can tackle and make 0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:25.400 some plays, I'm gonna go with the veterans, Anthony Brown 0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:28.480 and Cheeto, and I'll try and work Digs in. But 0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:31.719 we've seen too many instances of Digs just falling asleep 0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:34.800 at the wheel, not knowing exactly what to do when 0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:36.880 it comes to some of the matchups. Are we in man, 0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:40.040 are we in zone? Stopping his feet giving up big plays? 0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:44.080 I can't. If I'm Mike Nolan, I gotta go with 0:32:44.120 --> 0:32:46.200 the guys that I trust, and I would trust Cheetah 0:32:46.320 --> 0:32:49.320 over Digs right now. All right, before we let you go, Bucky, 0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:51.920 I had a bigger, bigger picture question just from the 0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:54.760 standpoint of the Eagles Carson Winch. She go back to 0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:58.320 his rookie year, he was on pace to be a 0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:01.719 real candidate. I thought or League MVP and was playing 0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:06.160 outstanding football. From that to where he is now, it's 0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:11.479 a simple question what happened to him, you know, Like 0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.400 so he was really reckless in terms of how he played, 0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.360 and going all the way back to North Dakota State, 0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.440 he's always battled a series of injuries, Like he always 0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:22.680 had something that he's dealing with. Well when he goes 0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:24.800 into the league, because of his style of play, because 0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:27.400 he lives on the edge, he doesn't really understand or 0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.240 know how to slide. He takes a lot of shots, 0:33:30.560 --> 0:33:34.160 and he also doesn't know when the play is over. 0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:37.160 And because he extends plays and he plays in such 0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:40.120 a reckless style, he kind of exposes himself to me. 0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:43.600 When he was coming out, he was a version of 0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:46.200 Cam Newton in terms of like how rugged and physical 0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:47.600 that he played, the way that they used him in 0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:49.880 North Dakota State. He has continued to do that, but 0:33:49.960 --> 0:33:54.520 he's done that and hurt himself acl bad concussions, risks 0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:57.400 a lot of injuries, and that has really impacted his game. 0:33:57.440 --> 0:34:01.920 And so now he's a bit true trigger shot into pocket. 0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:04.000 He doesn't really want to deal with that, and so 0:34:04.280 --> 0:34:06.920 it impacts his game. But he's not good enough to 0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:10.680 play as a status passer. And so I think the 0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:13.600 funny thing is when you hear this, and without even 0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:16.640 inserting the dad conversation, I'm inserted. But I think when 0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:18.720 you look at Dak and you look at Carson Wentz, 0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:22.440 Dak has been a much better player, more consistent player 0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:26.319 throughout his time. And I just think because a draft status, 0:34:26.400 --> 0:34:28.960 Carson Wentz has always gotten tony because outside of that 0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:32.240 one great year, he has not played at that level 0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:34.080 that you would expect a guy that was taking second 0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:36.920 overall to play. Hey, that's good stuff, Bucky. We appreciate it. 0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:39.040 We're gonna go to our final break. We'll be back 0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:41.440 tomorrow with Bucky when he's gonna talk a little bit 0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:43.880 more about this Philadelphia defense versus a Cowboys offense. But 0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:45.480 we're gonna take a break right now. We'll come back. 0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:47.480 We have some more to talk about, some more news 0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:49.560 type stuff we'll talk about with the Cowboys that when 0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.880 we come right back. 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I don't feel optimistic about that. 0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.200 But if if he's able to go, I mean, if 0:37:57.239 --> 0:37:59.120 he's able to get into practice I'm gonna go out 0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:00.880 on a limb and say I won't be until Saturday, 0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:05.080 which is that's that's their Friday practice day. So um, 0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:07.520 not optimistic, but he is in meetings, so that's good. 0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:09.960 And at this point, is the expectation that you got 0:38:10.080 --> 0:38:14.440 Bend Nucci or is this a possibility? Maybe it'll it'll 0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:18.640 be Ben, It'll be Ben or Andy? Okay, d Yeah, 0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:20.800 how you guys feel about that? I tell you what. 0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:23.440 We'll wait. Savings not great, mob, we'll talk about that tomorrow. 0:38:23.480 --> 0:38:26.080 We're talking about the Cowboys offense. Um, all right, so 0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:30.520 talking to me about Zack Martin. Zack Martin is expected 0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.359 to practice today. I think he will play on Sunday night. 0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:37.600 All right, good, h Let's talk about Joe Looney. He's practicing. 0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:42.759 I'm gonna back. He's practicing. Yeah, message on that from 0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:45.880 the PR staff that he is returning. Okay, good. So 0:38:45.920 --> 0:38:48.560 it looks like Joe Zach might be back this week. 0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.440 That gives you two offensive linemen that have some experience 0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:53.560 that you could kind of study some things with. I 0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:55.920 do too, Like, that's that's great. That's that's good for 0:38:55.960 --> 0:39:03.239 an offensive line struggle in meaning meaning go ahead, Amber No. 0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:05.640 Based on what I heard from Mike McCarthy earlier today 0:39:05.640 --> 0:39:08.440 in his press conference, him saying that Joe Joe is 0:39:08.520 --> 0:39:11.799 kind of close to returning. But if it's practicing, I mean, 0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:14.279 is this like a practice hole he's practicing too, maybe 0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:17.520 return this weekend or he's just coming back to practice. 0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.839 In general, I think it's probably premature to think he's 0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:24.160 gonna play in this game. Not saying it's impossible, but 0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:27.640 you know, something to keep an eye on. I'm not 0:39:27.760 --> 0:39:30.080 ready to say that he's definitely gonna play on Sunday though, 0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:36.080 but just positive that he's coming back to practice. It's 0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:39.600 really great. And actually McCarthy had an interesting quote. You know, 0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:41.839 he's obviously not going to give too much away, but 0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:45.359 he was asked, you know, with Zach back and maybe 0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:48.000 Joe coming back, can you maybe kick Zach out to 0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:52.240 tackle try different combinations? And he was basically like, we 0:39:52.239 --> 0:39:54.319 we don't have you know, we don't have the set five. 0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:57.080 We don't you know, he's big on continuity, but he's like, 0:39:57.360 --> 0:40:00.960 we don't have five guys at the five respective positions 0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:03.560 that we feel concrete about, so we're gonna work as 0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:07.600 many combinations as we can. So hopefully hopefully having Zach 0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:10.160 at the very least will allow them to maybe get 0:40:10.200 --> 0:40:12.960 creative with plugging this thing up. All right, let's move 0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:17.839 on to cheet Obey Owoozier. What's the status with him. 0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:20.480 McCarthy basically was like, yeah, I think he's got a 0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:22.680 good shot to play, which you know, coaches hate saying 0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:25.040 stuff like that, but he's supposed to do something today. 0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:28.319 And McCarthy was like, yeah, like, our goal is to 0:40:28.360 --> 0:40:32.080 have him ready for Sunday nights, so that more so, 0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:35.279 maybe even more so than zach Man. Maybe not more 0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:37.560 than Zach, but I think it would be huge to 0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:41.640 have Cheeto out there, just somebody who can competently handle 0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:43.759 his side of the field, because you might not think 0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:48.520 the world of Cheeto, but we've never seen him struggle 0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:52.040 with letting guys get behind him by five six yards. 0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:56.799 On a regular basis, he leads the team and interceptions, right, 0:40:56.880 --> 0:41:02.439 does he sure does? Oh god, there's only been one 0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:04.759 so and how many games does he mean? I mean, 0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:07.080 is that stat I still saw it? Does Dak still 0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:09.399 leading the NFL pass? I don't think so? I think 0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:12.120 I don't think no, not anymore. Last week he was 0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:14.799 before last week's games, he was, Yeah, well Cheeto still 0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:17.440 leads to teham and interceptions. Yeah. I thought it was, well, 0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:20.239 they might being like this week and they might be 0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:23.520 like this weekend with that because with Carson Wentz and 0:41:23.600 --> 0:41:26.080 him maybe throwing some interceptions. I mean, you can get 0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:28.799 a cheetah get his hands on that ball. Yeah. So 0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:30.799 I got to see that to believe it. But I 0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:35.799 like your optim talking about you know, you know, I'll 0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:39.160 jump in on this, Dave Sean Lee, you know, he 0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:42.200 was McCarthy was talking about him getting back to practice 0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:44.400 and all that saying the normal coach speak, and I 0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:46.600 thought he kind of just slipped in and said, you know, 0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:49.319 I think he has a good chance to play Sunday night, 0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:52.360 which I don't. I wasn't expecting that. I wasn't expecting 0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:55.920 him to come back to play, but you know, it 0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:58.400 would be it would be ironic if he did, because 0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:01.920 I'm pretty sure that's where you have the surgery in Philadelphia. 0:42:02.000 --> 0:42:04.279 I mean, if you think, I think that's where where 0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:07.040 all all those sporttorney surgeries are always done. To see 0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:10.160 in Philadelphia, So it would be interesting if he comes back, 0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:12.440 he plays, and they certainly need him. That's day. That's 0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:15.800 what I think. I think he sounds like he could play. 0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:19.960 You agree, Um, I mean, I agree with what you 0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:23.279 said about McCarthy. Uh, you know, I'm always reluctant to 0:42:23.520 --> 0:42:26.000 on Wednesday be like, yeah, he's definitely gonna play, but 0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:28.720 I think he's got a shot. He definitely has a shot. 0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:31.000 There's one other topic I wanted to hit before we 0:42:31.160 --> 0:42:34.279 end the show. Um let's talking about special teams and 0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:38.360 the punting situation. The Cowboys did sign a punter earlier 0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:43.520 this week, Hunter Niswander, and they said in the in 0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:47.600 in a press conference that they this player has always been, 0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:49.520 has been on their radars, guy they wanted to sign. 0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:51.160 They thought it's a good idea to have a guy 0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:54.040 that can both kick and punt that they would have 0:42:54.080 --> 0:42:57.279 on their practice squad. My question for you guys is 0:42:57.320 --> 0:42:59.279 should that be the case or should he really be 0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:01.840 here for the purpose of taking Chris Jones's job, Because 0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:04.320 you look at Chris Jones over the last two years, 0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:07.160 his punting has not been great. I'll throw some numbers 0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:09.360 at you. This year, he has ranked twenty ninth in 0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:12.600 the league in yards per punt at forty three point one. 0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:15.440 His longest fifty four, and that's thirty first in the league. 0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:19.440 Last year his average yards per punt was forty one 0:43:19.480 --> 0:43:21.400 point six and he was thirty first in the league 0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:25.399 at that and as long was thirty long was fifty eight, 0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:28.960 and he was thirty second at that the last two years. 0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:30.600 And you can go back even farther than and see 0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:33.759 he's regularly in the bottom at least bottom third of 0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:36.600 the league. Isn't at a point where the Cowboys really 0:43:36.640 --> 0:43:39.240 need to replace him because they're just not getting anything 0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:42.439 from him. From the standpoint of punts. Let's start first 0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:46.680 with you Amber, Well, this is something like you said, 0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:50.080 we've kind of been talking about about it and been 0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:53.240 wondering with like a question mark on there. And Fassil 0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:57.600 he did when he first was hiring and asked about 0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:00.560 the punter position. I mean, he did mentioned the injury 0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:03.200 that Chris was dealing with last year and kind of 0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:05.600 played through it or whatever. But this is something that 0:44:05.920 --> 0:44:10.200 I don't think it's injury related. Clearly, his efforts on 0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:12.680 the on the field have started to decline, and I 0:44:12.680 --> 0:44:15.200 think that the way that the fact that they said, oh, 0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:17.040 this is a player that has been in a radar, 0:44:17.400 --> 0:44:19.919 it's just a nice way to put it. Honestly, that's 0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:23.240 just them being nice and kind with that. But we 0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:26.279 should find out pretty soon if we start seeing that 0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:29.520 guy on the field. Plane Nick, well, yeah, they got 0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:33.440 to get better at the punning. I mean Chris Jones 0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:35.719 gets to also. I mean you think about this year 0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:38.320 where he's ranks twenty ninth, and I mean he's played 0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:41.399 four home games, is that right? I mean four home 0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:43.799 games and then it's at Seattle and at the rant. 0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:45.480 I mean, whether it's not been an issue kind of 0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:47.640 was in this game but thirty two yard punt I 0:44:47.640 --> 0:44:49.880 mean in the second quarter was the one where I 0:44:49.920 --> 0:44:52.359 mean that you had to get field positioned and that 0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:54.560 punts is not it's just not there. I mean, I 0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:56.480 just don't think he's got that boom on the ball 0:44:57.560 --> 0:44:59.719 like he like he did when he when he first 0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:01.400 got here. And he's been a great punter for a 0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:04.440 long time. He's been a good punter. He's sorry, Jason, 0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:08.040 he's been a good punter for a long time. But um, 0:45:08.080 --> 0:45:12.919 but when Dame Bailey left, that's when old buddy left. 0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:19.680 Well well true, true, well when we started we started there. 0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:21.400 It could be a back injury. But I mean, what 0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:23.080 one of the two, I mean, it could be both, 0:45:23.520 --> 0:45:26.200 could be both. If if we see what's his name, 0:45:26.239 --> 0:45:29.600 miss Winder, miss Winder, if we see him holding for 0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:33.680 kickoff for field goals, that's a hint that yeah, that's 0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:35.400 that's where you know, because that's one thing you know 0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:38.600 Chris Jones does. But also, I'm sorry, Dave, but their 0:45:38.680 --> 0:45:41.279 point is is correct too when you get to the 0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:44.040 road games, because if they don't have a backup, I mean, 0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:46.279 you do need that. I think that's maybe they just 0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:49.319 did not forget to do that. Or something that you 0:45:49.360 --> 0:45:51.640 gotta have a backup you get on the road and 0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:54.600 something were to happen to test positive, somebody tests, you 0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:56.920 gotta have, you know, that's nice to have right now. 0:45:56.920 --> 0:45:59.480 They're not really in games where you know, kicking is 0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:01.799 really a actor at this point. But but I get 0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:04.319 your point. Yeah, that's true. Your point again, you don't 0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:08.200 want you. I just am I am I the only 0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:11.000 one that like, I mean, I don't know. I think 0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:14.960 they're lying, honestly. That's that's my that's my takeaway is 0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:18.520 maybe they're not ready to cut Chris Jones right now, 0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:21.000 but they're like, oh, like we thought it might be 0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:23.320 a good idea to have a guy already ready. Well, 0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:25.920 you didn't think it was a good idea for training 0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:28.560 camp or the first seven weeks of the season. Like literally, 0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:30.760 when they found out they had to cut their roster 0:46:30.840 --> 0:46:33.759 to eighty for training camp, the extra specialists were the 0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:35.880 first to go, Like they were the first guys that 0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:37.759 they got rid of, like, oh, we don't we don't 0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:39.480 have room for that, we don't need that on our 0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:42.400 roster during training camp, and then seven weeks of the season, 0:46:43.200 --> 0:46:45.200 you know, didn't it wasn't a good enough idea that 0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:46.919 you did it any of these other weeks and now 0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:49.200 after a month and a half of Chris Jones being 0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:53.520 pedestrian too, you know bad now it's a good idea, 0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:56.640 Like I that, No, that's that's not the case. They're like, 0:46:57.120 --> 0:46:59.319 you know, we might have to do something about this, 0:46:59.360 --> 0:47:01.080 and we should get the guy we like in here 0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:03.279 before somebody else does like that. That's what I think 0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:05.200 is happening. Yeah, I suspect they did the same thing 0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:07.600 I did after that thirty two yard punt. They probably 0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:09.840 are like on the headsets like, hey man on Monday, 0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:11.759 we might need to see if what we can find 0:47:11.760 --> 0:47:14.560 out there, because this might be an opportunity for us 0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:16.960 to move on. Yeah. Yeah, I just think you know, 0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:19.640 a team like this that struggles as bad as they 0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:22.719 do in so many areas, that's an area that, as 0:47:22.800 --> 0:47:24.839 much as anything could help you right now, that's an 0:47:24.840 --> 0:47:28.600 area that could help you. It could actually create situations 0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:30.680 where maybe you can flip the field because your offense 0:47:30.760 --> 0:47:32.920 isn't really moving the ball at all, and you have 0:47:32.920 --> 0:47:35.640 an opportunity to not give the opposing offense great field 0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:37.839 position in stay of thirty two yard punt gives them 0:47:37.840 --> 0:47:39.520 the ball at the forty Like, that's the kind of 0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:42.040 situation that you just really can't afford on a team 0:47:42.040 --> 0:47:43.920 that's just bad in so many other areas. All Right, 0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:46.120 we appreciate you guys joining us. We'll be back tomorrow. 0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:49.319 We'll be ready to we'll be outside. Actually, tomorrow gotta 0:47:49.360 --> 0:47:51.080 be interesting because all four of us will be in 0:47:51.120 --> 0:47:54.040 the same location for a show for the first time 0:47:54.080 --> 0:47:57.000 in what seven eight months. It'll be really nice to 0:47:57.120 --> 0:47:59.400 be somewhere we can all just have a conversation in 0:47:59.480 --> 0:48:01.959 Dave's own isn't acting up and it'll just be It'll 0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:04.880 be a wonderful show. It will be cold, so Amber, 0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:06.879 make sure you were about five layers. But we will 0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:08.560 have a great time, and we'll hope you guys will 0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:10.480 join us. Till then. For Nick Eaton, Dave helm and 0:48:10.480 --> 0:48:12.600 Amber Garcia, I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been The Break 0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:21.839 live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been 0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:25.080 a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas 0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:26.320 Cowboys Football Club.