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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: The so called supermom turned kidnap hoaxer Shery Peppini is

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Speaker 2: back in court. She is battling for child visitation with

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Speaker 2: her ex husband. Good luck, Sherry Peppini. I'm Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 2: The California mom who pled guilty to charges related to

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Speaker 2: faking her own kidnapping, showing up on Thanksgiving covered in bruises, starved,

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Speaker 2: even branded. She branded herself with a curling iron. Okay,

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Speaker 2: tell that to a judge. He's not going to give

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Speaker 2: you more visitation or custody with your children. Forget it.

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Speaker 2: But that said, she's back in court. She is whining.

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Speaker 1: Quote.

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Speaker 2: For eight years, our family has been followed, stalk to

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Speaker 2: rest and bullied by the media. Really could it be

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Speaker 2: because you led everyone on a wild goose chase, spending

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Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of dollars of taxpayers money, torturing your family,

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Speaker 2: your husband and children, thinking you were probably dead before

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Speaker 2: you came back like a stray cat on Thanksgiving morning.

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Speaker 1: Oh. She said this to Kate orc R.

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Speaker 2: Quote, I've done my best to stay private, to focus

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Speaker 2: on my children and healing what she's healing from her

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Speaker 2: own hoax, healing from the.

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Speaker 1: Events that transpired.

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Speaker 2: She makes it sounds like something happened to her, not

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Speaker 2: that she actually did something pretty evil. Pretending you've been

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Speaker 2: kidnapped and your children having to endure the possibility you

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Speaker 2: could be dead.

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Speaker 1: For many years.

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Speaker 2: After my arrest, I was the primary caregiver of our

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Speaker 2: children before serving my time in prison. You mean, before

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Speaker 2: you played guilty. My children have always been my primary focus.

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Speaker 2: Oh was that what you were thinking about when you

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Speaker 2: pretend I need to be kidnapped, slung up with your

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Speaker 2: old boyfriend? What ordering pizza, watching movies? I guess at

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Speaker 2: that point from Blockbuster. Peppini wants to be able to

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Speaker 2: see her children again. After an eight year saga that

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Speaker 2: got worldwide press attention. There was even a Hulu documentary

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Speaker 2: the ex Keith Peppini is fighting to shelter the children

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Speaker 2: from their mother. Why is he so hell bent on

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Speaker 2: sheltering his children?

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Speaker 1: This is why?

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Speaker 3: Hello, can I help you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? So I just call home from work and my

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Speaker 4: wife wasn't there, which is unusual, and my kids should

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Speaker 4: have been there by now from like daycare. So I

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Speaker 4: was like, oh, maybe she went on a walk, I

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Speaker 4: couldn't find her, so I called the daycare to see

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Speaker 4: what times she picked up the kids. The kids were

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Speaker 4: never picked up, so I got freaked out. So I

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Speaker 4: hit like to find my phone app thing and it

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Speaker 4: said that her. It showed her phone like at our

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Speaker 4: end of our driveway. Wen I'm really good service. Okay,

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Speaker 4: not the end of our in our street, but just

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Speaker 4: drove downer and I saw her phone with her headphones

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Speaker 4: because she started running again, and it's town her phone.

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Speaker 4: It's got like hair ripped out of it, like in

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Speaker 4: the headphones. So I'm like totally freaking out, thinking like

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Speaker 4: somebody like, what's her?

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Speaker 5: Grab her?

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Speaker 1: Thanking, someone grabbed her?

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Speaker 2: Now take a listen to our cut one from Channel

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Speaker 2: seven kr c R.

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Speaker 6: Keith Pappini came home last Wednesday and his wife, Sherry Pappini,

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Speaker 6: was nowhere to be found.

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Speaker 7: In normal days, I would open the door and my

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Speaker 6: But there were no welcoming hugs. So he searched in

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Speaker 6: the house and their property, but learned the children were

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Speaker 7: That's when I knew she'd been, in my opinion, taken

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Speaker 6: Now days later, family, friends, the community, and law enforcement

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Speaker 7: It's the worst thing in the world. It's the worst

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Speaker 6: Time going by slowly and they're children don't know their

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Speaker 1: It's hard waiting.

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Speaker 8: You know, you're waiting.

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Speaker 7: You're waiting for a phone call, You're waiting for something

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Speaker 7: to tell us. You know, this is the direction, or

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Speaker 6: But Keith is determined to find her.

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Speaker 7: If she's listening, I wanted to say that we're trying

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Speaker 7: the best we can and I'm so sorry that I'm

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Speaker 6: The family believes she was abducted and has this message.

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Speaker 1: Bring her home, Bring her home, just bring her home.

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Speaker 2: We all know that Peppinie was on a very tight

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Speaker 2: listen to her sister in law, Sherry Peppini are cut five.

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Speaker 9: There's no way she would do anything to disrupt her

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Speaker 9: children's routine, you know, the being that the phone was

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Speaker 9: found and she wasn't on her routine there, Yeah, there's

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Speaker 9: no way she wouldn't have gone and picked up the children.

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Speaker 9: They're on a very they're on a very tight schedule,

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Speaker 9: and she's extremely close with them. She's here with them

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Speaker 9: every day, gardening and doing projects, and there's just no

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Speaker 7: She would take off.

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Speaker 1: It's terrible.

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Speaker 9: She's an incredible human being, best mom I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: You're hearing the sister in law, Suzanne Peppini speaking.

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Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation

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Speaker 2: in series XEM one eleven. Sherry Peppini a name that

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Speaker 2: echoes and echoes and echoes. She's been in the news

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Speaker 2: so much. With me an all star panel to make

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Speaker 2: sense of what we know right now. Matthew Mangino, former prosecutor,

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Speaker 2: highly respected attorney, author of The Executioners Toll, Doctor Angela Arnold, psychiatrist,

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Speaker 2: joining us out of the Atlanta jurisdiction at Angela Arnold,

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Speaker 2: MD dot com. Mona Kay private investigator at Mona Ka Investigations,

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Speaker 2: joining us out of Omaha. Emmy Award winning investigative reporter

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Speaker 2: Christy Massurich and special guests joining us. Sheriff Michael Johnson

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Speaker 2: from the Shasta Counties Sheriff's Office to Sheriff Michael Johnson,

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Speaker 2: this case has been hanging around the Sheriff's office neck

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Speaker 2: an albatross, so to speak. Sheriff Michael Johnson familiar with

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Speaker 2: the extensive search for Sherry Peppini. Take a listen to

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Speaker 2: the Shasta County Sheriff presser.

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Speaker 10: The deputies last night when they responded, they conducted a

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Speaker 10: search of the area and canvas area with local neighbors

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Speaker 10: investigators as well. They were also able to utilize the

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Speaker 10: And checked to the fields in the side of the

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Speaker 10: last night. They also used for search canines for scent work.

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Speaker 10: Local area hospitals were checked and of course the sides

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Speaker 10: of the roadways were checked as well. Ms Peppini has

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Speaker 10: been entered into a national computer for missing persons. She

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Speaker 2: To Sheriff Michael Johnson joining us in Shasta County Sheriff's Office.

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Speaker 2: It's a real honor and privilege to have you with us, Sheriff.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for taking time away from your extremely busy

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Speaker 2: schedule to be with us, Sheriff. You guys went all

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Speaker 2: out and your search for Sherry Peppini.

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Speaker 1: Explain what your search entailed.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Nancy, there was three really different parts to this investigation,

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Speaker 5: and when you're talking about the search, that's really like

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Speaker 5: what we call the phase one of the investigation. She

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Speaker 5: went missing and immediately you heard there was several different

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Speaker 5: was absolutely the first phase where we just want to

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Speaker 5: Time's never on your side when somebody goes missing. So

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Speaker 5: the sooner you can locate them or get a lead

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Speaker 5: on locating them, the better chances you are recovering that

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Speaker 5: personal live. So there was allied agencies asked to lend

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Speaker 5: As you heard, we had dogs, we had helicopters, we

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Speaker 5: had everything, an all out search in the community. The

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Speaker 5: community even joined in, you know, printing flyers and volunteer

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Speaker 5: people coming out and looking for her. It was an

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Speaker 5: all out effort to find Cherry at the beginning.

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Speaker 2: I remember exactly how this whole thing went down, and

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Speaker 2: the Sheriff's office and other agencies spared no resources trying

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Speaker 2: to find Cherry Pepinie. And what I hear about the

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Speaker 2: helicopter on my people have never seen it in real life,

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Speaker 2: but you've seen in the movies the helicopter flying close

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Speaker 2: a pretty risky mode of transportation, but if you've got

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Speaker 2: to do it, you got to do it. But in

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Speaker 1: Describe how that works, Sheriff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's you know, they have infrared technology. They have

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Speaker 5: a lot of different high end technology that goes into this,

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Speaker 5: not just in the helicopter, but on the ground as well.

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Speaker 5: There's efforts, there's people where a night vision, there's everything,

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Speaker 5: all all expense paid to locate this woman. And that's

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Speaker 5: one of the keys here, Nancy, is when you talk

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Speaker 5: about the exhausting efforts of all the agencies into this

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Speaker 5: that during the time Sherry Peppini went missing, I was

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Speaker 5: actually the neighboring police chief at the time, I was

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Speaker 5: So everybody was.

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Speaker 2: Involved, and now to find out it's nothing but a

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Speaker 2: Woman knows no bounds in her lies. Take a listen

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Speaker 2: to our cut eight. Allison Sutton, a motorist who spots

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Speaker 2: the missing mom on the.

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Speaker 12: I saw a blonde woman standing in like that V

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Speaker 1: When I saw her.

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Speaker 12: I just caught a glimpse of her. The area where

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Speaker 12: Miles up the road to figure out where until I

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Speaker 12: called nine one one.

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Speaker 1: Have you ever done that? You've driven by something and

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Speaker 1: you went whoa, whoa, whoa? What was that?

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Speaker 2: That's what Alison Sutton is telling our friend Craig Melvin.

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Speaker 1: Take a listener, cut nine.

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Speaker 12: I saw her very very quickly. Her face looked. I

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Speaker 12: thought her face was dirty, but based on what I

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Speaker 12: And like I said, it was a flash because that

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Speaker 11: Called you didn't go back after that?

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Speaker 1: I did not know.

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Speaker 12: I had my fourteen year old daughter in the car

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Think back, it was In November, Sheery Peppini left her

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Speaker 2: a gunpoint by two female Hispanics. Yeah, what if somebody

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Speaker 2: had been arrested based on her big fat lie. Finally,

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Speaker 2: she was linked to her ex boyfriend through DNA evidence.

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Speaker 1: He came clean.

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Speaker 2: Her husband, Keith Peppini, rightfully filed for divorce and custody immediately.

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Speaker 2: Later that year, she accepted a plea deal admitted to

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Speaker 13: We are very estatic to report that Cherry Pepinie has

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Speaker 11: With her husband and family. On this day of Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 13: I'm happy to say that Sherry is now safe and

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Speaker 13: She has been treated at a area.

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Speaker 11: Hospital outside of Shasta County and for non life threatening injuries.

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Speaker 13: Thirty this morning, Chascuty Sheriff's office was notified that Cherry.

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Speaker 11: Peppini had been located. We learned that she was released

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Speaker 13: She was bound with restraints but was able to summon

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Speaker 2: Peppini admits it's all a big lie to Christie, Missouri

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Speaker 2: joining US Emmy Award winning investigative reporter. Do you remember

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Speaker 2: everybody looking for Sherry Peppini, The grid surges, the neighbors

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Speaker 2: in fear, no woman would go for a walk by yourself,

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Speaker 1: Christy Massurich.

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Speaker 14: It was the safe scene around the world. On billboards signs,

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Speaker 14: people were donating to go fund me so to pay

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Speaker 14: for neighborhood searches. And now, unfortunately people are having to

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Speaker 2: I mean, whoa take a list in our cut eight.

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Speaker 2: Take this as Susie Suscbsla.

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Speaker 15: After years of sticking to her story that she was

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Speaker 15: abducted by two women, Sherry Peppini is reportedly ready now

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Speaker 15: Cherry Peppini vanished from her reading home in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 15: Weeks later, she was found wandering along the five Freeway,

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Speaker 15: bruised and branded. Now. At that time, she told police

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Speaker 15: prosecutors charged her with making it all up. They say

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Speaker 15: instead of being abducted, she was actually hiding out with

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Speaker 15: reached a deal with prosecutors and will admit that she

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Speaker 15: planned the entire hoax. Her lawyer says Peppini signed a

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Speaker 15: plea deal with federal prosecutors. Today she will plead guilty

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 1: Joining me, Sheriff Michael Johnson.

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Speaker 2: It was the Shasta County Sheriff's office and your then

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Speaker 2: no way to count the man hours spent on finding

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Speaker 2: this spoiled brat mom of two that goes missing on

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Speaker 1: Both of her kids are in daycare. I don't know

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Speaker 2: She's obviously fabricating a crime in her pink jogging suit.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if she had her hair blow dry before

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Speaker 2: she took off. But long story short, to go shack

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Speaker 2: up with her ex boyfriend for weeks on end, starve herself,

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Speaker 2: beat herself, cut all our hair off.

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Speaker 1: I'm so mad at you. Anl and a half sheriff.

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Speaker 5: Doesn't tell them much like a supermom to me, does

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Speaker 5: it to you?

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Speaker 1: Oh no it doesn't, No, it doesn't.

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Speaker 12: I mean.

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Speaker 1: There are plenty of times moms feel tired. They don't want.

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Speaker 2: To clean the guinea pig cage, or cook dinner or

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Speaker 1: They're exhausted.

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Speaker 2: But hiding in your ex boyfriend's apartment for several weeks

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Speaker 2: leading up to Thanksgiving, having your entire family and abject

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Speaker 2: fear that you're dead, I mean, and what it did

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you've hit all the points. It's frustrating to

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Speaker 5: sure we had well more than that into the investigation.

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Speaker 5: And that's not even counting all the other agencies. And

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Speaker 5: that is the frustration, Nasty is who we put all

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Speaker 5: these this effort into Sherry Peppini and trying to recover

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Speaker 5: suspects and oh yeah, what if.

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Speaker 2: You had actually made an arrest? She tried to blame

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Speaker 5: Yes, she sure did. And you know what, in the

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Speaker 5: meantime all this is going on, we have other legitimate

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Speaker 2: Reminds me of Jesse Smollett, the big race faker and

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Speaker 2: his face hate crime. At least we knew he was alive, Okay,

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Speaker 2: we didn't have to worry that he was dead and

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Speaker 2: the money Mona CA joining me private investigator or Mona

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Speaker 2: least me, but I would work a case in the

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Speaker 2: District Attorney's office.

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Speaker 1: I worked it.

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Speaker 2: I worked it hard, out on the street till one

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Speaker 1: Their evidence out, anything I could do to further justice.

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Speaker 2: There was no rest, there were no dinners out nothing.

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Speaker 2: It was proved the cave. Investigate the case, and by

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Speaker 2: the time you're in it, you're so emotionally attached to it,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's how I looked at my cases. They

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 3: I mean you become very invested in the case that

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Speaker 2: Yes, and it's exhausting, Monaque and to you, Sheriff Michael Johnson,

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Speaker 2: joining us, the Chassa County sheriff, the elected sheriff, you know, sheriff.

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Speaker 2: It's not like on TV and movies or in one

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Speaker 2: saying you're covered in dirt and sweat, blood, the next

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Speaker 1: It's not like that. You go days, weeks, months working

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Speaker 2: I've had cases where I had to go to crackhouses

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Speaker 2: tell you what criminal investigators, lawyers, and sheriffs like yourself

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't get it what she put you

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Speaker 1: get it, Sheriff. Why am I the only one angry here?

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Speaker 5: You're not? I do feel I do feel sorry for

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Speaker 5: But when you talk about this woman had a very

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Speaker 5: elaborate deception scheme. Going to we been talking about the investigation,

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Speaker 5: our investigators had to chase down so many leads and

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Speaker 1: Hours, mentally exhausting.

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Speaker 2: Do you know how many times that I would comment

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Speaker 2: problems with her story, But then Sheriff, I kept thinking, well,

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Speaker 2: I mean, would she goes so far to beat herself

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Speaker 2: she brand herself, chop off all her hair? Was she branded?

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Speaker 1: Sheriff? Yes, she was, Oh dear Lord in Heaven.

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Speaker 2: With what It's never been told what she was branded?

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Speaker 2: What were the letters?

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Speaker 1: What did it say?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was acurrence. It was a religious saying, and

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Speaker 5: I don't really recall exactly.

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Speaker 1: What religious saying. Yeah, yes, Oh, you know this.

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Speaker 2: Is straight Matthew Mangino, former District Attorney Lawrence County now

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Speaker 2: I don't like one bit that you paroled people and

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Speaker 2: author of the executioners told me and Gino it's straight

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Speaker 2: out of like a fifth grade girl's novel. Being abducted

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Speaker 2: It sounded heinkey at the beginning, but I would not

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Speaker 2: I thought, okay, the facts are off, But.

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Speaker 1: Which she actually brand herself?

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Speaker 2: Would you go through all that break her own nose

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Speaker 8: you know, to physically harm herself, to brand herself, to

442
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 8: have her nose broken, all for the attention that she

443
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 8: that she might get after she comes back twenty two

444
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 8: days later. I mean, you know, this extravagant hoax is

445
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 8: wrong on so many different levels.

446
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 16: You know, it inhibits people for money to get involved

447
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 16: in the future.

448
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 8: When someone says they're missing, it's a diversion of police efforts.

449
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 8: You know, it's costly to the community.

450
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Manjeno, I want to analyze something you just said.

451
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: A diversion of police efforts. You know, that's really like

452
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 2: putting perfume on the pig. You know, it's a little

453
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 2: bit of a euphemism. Hey, Sheriff Michael Johnson, did you

454
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: hear that, Matthew Mangino, police efforts?

455
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: Think about it.

456
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: How many women were being raped at that moment, how

457
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: many stores or homes were being robbed or home invaded,

458
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 2: How many missing children were being abducted at that moment?

459
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: What other crimes were happening?

460
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: Were people domestic violence, people women getting beaten, children getting

461
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: beaten and molested. That's what was happening when Sherry Peppini

462
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: had the sheriffs up in their helicopter and doing grid

463
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: searches and putting up flyers.

464
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about that, Mangino?

465
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 7: All right?

466
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 16: And I agree with you, And it goes beyond that.

467
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 16: I mean the fear that they created in the community

468
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 16: that hey, you know this this young woman was abducted

469
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 16: and no one knows where she's at. And then when

470
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 16: she finally returns, there's this racist element that she creates

471
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 16: two gun wielding his Spanish cap for three weeks.

472
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: You know, I remember when Susan Smith killed her children

473
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: and blamed the black guy.

474
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,400
Speaker 1: Blame the black man, all right.

475
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: So I was sitting in court, Jackie, with my trial partner,

476
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 2: who helped me a great deal turn into a judge.

477
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: By the way Herman Slim and the composite of the

478
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: fake kidnapper of the children came out of Mike Herman.

479
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 2: That looks a lot like you. Look at this, he went, Oh,

480
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 2: I said, actually, I think you were.

481
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: Born with me when a children were i'mductan, so you

482
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: know you're safe.

483
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 2: But what he just said, Sheriff Johnson, did you hear that,

484
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: the element of blaming the Hispanic women.

485
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, of course. And you know what that doesn't You

486
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 5: got a nerve? What that does a law enforcement is

487
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 5: it gives us. You know, she created this, these sketches,

488
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 5: and so now we're contacting people and questioning people that

489
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 5: even resemble that falsely. You know, it's unfair.

490
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: He just gave me a flashback. Sheriff Johnson.

491
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: You know the.

492
00:28:54,920 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: Big albums of purps mugshots. I remember sitting up at

493
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: like one o'clock in the morning, I found a witness

494
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: and just going through page after page after page looking

495
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: to see if any of these people look familiar as

496
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: the killer.

497
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: It was triple homicide of my dad.

498
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 2: But I could just see you putting together those two

499
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: composites I remember them well, and showing them to this

500
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: person and that person. Oh it's so intensive, Sheriff Johnson.

501
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: I know it is, you know, Sheriff Johnson.

502
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: I've still got you. We heard Matthew Mangino. I think

503
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 2: it's a pretty good guess on his part. Two say

504
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: she did it for attention?

505
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: Did we ever figure out why she did it not?

506
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 5: You know, that's the one thing that I was waiting

507
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 5: for to come out in the trial. No, all I

508
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 5: can tell you is that calculated, narcisistic type of behavior

509
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 5: that she did displayed through this whole thing is all

510
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 5: self serving right up now until the end when she

511
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 5: enters a flee agreement. The only reason she pled in

512
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 5: this case is because she's trying to save herself for

513
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 5: selfish reasons. Again, and they put out this statement of

514
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 5: remorse by her, which I'm quite sure she didn't say.

515
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 5: It was crafted, probably by her attorney, and just don't

516
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 5: buy any of it. So I was hoping in the

517
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 5: trial we would get a better idea of why she

518
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 5: did it. But if I had to guess, I'd just

519
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 5: say it's that same typical selfish behavior.

520
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: Oh, the whole thing about Oh, I'm bored, I'm bored

521
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: being a stay at home mom. You know how many

522
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: working moms that have to work would love to be

523
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: a stay at home mom because they're trying to be

524
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: the stay at home mom and do all the things

525
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: that mom does and work at the same time.

526
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard.

527
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 17: Nancy.

528
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: Uh oh, here it comes, and she arnold. I just

529
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: did it for attention.

530
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 2: There's something else there, and don't Yes, there is something else.

531
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: Insane because she's not she's crazy. She's crazy like a fox.

532
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: I'm telling you that.

533
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 17: And she is also not a narcissist. She is a sociopath.

534
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 17: She is the definition of a sociopath. She knows the

535
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 17: difference between right and wrong, and she has no conscience.

536
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 17: Because this is not the first bad thing that she's

537
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 17: done to her family. It has escalated and escalated and

538
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 17: now this and like you said, how selfish? And then

539
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 17: how could you be thinking of anyone? She's not thinking

540
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 17: of anyone.

541
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: And by the.

542
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 17: Way, typically sociopaths and narcissist are not really capable of love.

543
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 17: So she's got this family you know that she can

544
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 17: portray and of course she looks like the best mom

545
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 17: in the world.

546
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace Sherry Peppini back in court.

547
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: I recall when she was confronted with evidence of her hoax. Man,

548
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: this woman can lie. Would you let your children be

549
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: with a mom like that? I'm not the church lady.

550
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: I'm not making a moral judgment. I'm talking about the

551
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: safety of children. When you don't know a horse, look

552
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 2: at her track record, when you don't know what's going

553
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 2: to happen, look at what has already happened. Do you

554
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: blame Keith Peppeni for fighting over visitation? Let me refresh

555
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: your recollection. Sheriff Michael Johns from the Shasta Counties Sheriff's

556
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: Office or.

557
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: Christy jump in if you know this.

558
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: There have been a lot of issues with her before

559
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: this is that she had kicked in her family home,

560
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: like her our original family, like mom and dad family

561
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: or thank to burglary, there have been some something in

562
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: her background that's it's like a waving a big wig

563
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 2: flag in front of a bull.

564
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't.

565
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: Help but notice that what was it she had done

566
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: in the past, Sheriff Johnson.

567
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't recall that one.

568
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: So I recall it.

569
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 5: Hey, I do?

570
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 14: I hate Nancy rolling back from the sheriff rolling back

571
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 14: from this case. She scams the ex boyfriend, telling him

572
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 14: that her husband is beating her and her family is

573
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 14: not helping her. And she weaves this narrative for almost

574
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 14: a year before she disappears. That's why he allows her

575
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 14: to hold up in his apartment.

576
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: Hey, speaking of the drama, the story she came up with,

577
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: take a listen to our cut eighteen SISSYSUCBSLA.

578
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 15: After years of sticking to her story that she was

579
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 15: abducted by two women, Sheery Peppini is reportedly ready now

580
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 15: to come clean and admit that she faked it all.

581
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 15: Chery Peppini vanished from her reading home in twenty sixteen.

582
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 15: Weeks later, she was found wandering along the five Freeway,

583
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 15: bruised and branded. Now. At that time, she told police

584
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 15: two women had kidnapped and tortured her, but last month

585
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 15: prosecutors charged her with making it all up. They say,

586
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 15: instead of being abducted, she was actually hiding out with

587
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 15: an ex boyfriend in Costa Mesa. And now Peppini has

588
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 15: reached a deal with prosecutors and will admit that she

589
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 15: planned the entire hoax. Her lawyer says Peppini signed a

590
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 15: plea deal with federal prosecutors today she will plead guilty

591
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 15: to lying to a federal officer and to mail fraud.

592
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: You know, what if you'd made an rare Sheriff Johnson,

593
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: What if you actually found a Hispanic woman, or, as

594
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: I believe she said, a two Mexican women. What if

595
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: you had actually found somebody that matched that sketch to

596
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: the point that you arrested them based on what Sherry

597
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: Peppini said, Well.

598
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 5: You know what had happened then, did not be in

599
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 5: a lawsuit for false arrest, A big.

600
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: Fat lawsuit too. I founded Sheriff lit'sten know to this.

601
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 2: When she was eighteen, her sister accused her of kicking

602
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 2: in the back door of the family schaste Lake home.

603
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: The same day, her parents, Richard and Loretta, called police

604
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 2: to document the incident as vandalism and claimed she had

605
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: taken off to somewhere in reading. When she was twenty one,

606
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: her parents made another call to the cops, saying she

607
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 2: stole money from.

608
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: The father's bank account.

609
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 2: Then the mother reported Sherry was harming herself and blaming

610
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: her injuries on her the mother, and the mother was

611
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: afraid that she, the mother would be get dragged into

612
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: defects Department Family Children's Services, So she called herself and went, hey, my.

613
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: Daughter is hurting herself and blaming me.

614
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 2: I mean, Sheriff Michael Johnson, when you don't know a horse,

615
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: look at a track record.

616
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 5: Yes, indeed, and all that was taken into consideration as

617
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 5: things started to unfold. And you know what another hard

618
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 5: part of this was Nancy is as we started to

619
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 5: unfold this lies that are being told by her, we

620
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 5: had to lay silent. Why we took you know, some

621
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 5: we took some criticism from the media, the family and

622
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 5: everybody else. And we were knowing that this was a lie,

623
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 5: and but we had to keep all I hope it

624
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 5: wasn't may whyet until we all the fact.

625
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: Now, I mean at the beginning, Sheriff. I find it

626
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 2: hard to believe I would have criticized.

627
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 1: You because I didn't see you at the beginning.

628
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: I know, but I always assume it's a Sheriff Johnson

629
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: because at the beginning her story stumped the whole thing.

630
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 1: Something It just wasn't right.

631
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: The whole thing, And we thought, and then showing up

632
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving date, what now?

633
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 5: I said, yeah, and there was little and you hit

634
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 5: on a couple of them, some of the evidence. At

635
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 5: the front of the investigation, we were scratching our head

636
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 5: and not thinking thing for right as well.

637
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: But I mean, what are you gonna do?

638
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 2: Bad mouth a victim who's had her nose broken and

639
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 2: lost all that weight, chopped her hair off and branded herself.

640
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: I mean, who would have thought?

641
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 2: Then you've got the ex boyfriend dragged into the whole thing. Hey,

642
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 2: another thing, Sheriff Johnson, I agree with you. Her statement says,

643
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: you know, she didn't write this. I'm deeply ashamed from

644
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 2: my behavior and so sorry for the pain I caused.

645
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 2: I don't believe that for one minute. I don't think

646
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: she's sorry she did it. She's sorry she got caught.

647
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 5: Sheriff Yep, that's exactly right. That's what she's sorry about.

648
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 5: She's sorry that she got caught.

649
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 2: It's like, I'm not sorry he did it, but I

650
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 2: sure don't want to go to hell for it. Okay, So, Christy,

651
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 2: Missourich the thirty thousand dollars she stole from a victim's

652
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: compensation fund to pay off her credit card.

653
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 14: What lovely?

654
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: Wait?

655
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 2: Tell me that she had thirty thousand dollars a credit

656
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: card debt and then paid it for the victims compensation fund.

657
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 14: Yes, and go fund be sites. Also that family and

658
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 14: friends had set up so when she returned back home

659
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 14: she had a payday. And again her story got so insane.

660
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 14: Her memory was hazy because her head was covered by

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Speaker 14: a pillow case. But she heard mariachi music playing. But

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Speaker 14: maybe that didn't happen because she might have been hit

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Speaker 14: by a stun gun.

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Speaker 1: Did you just say mariachi music?

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Speaker 14: I absolutely did.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Monique probably an investigator with moni Que investigations.

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Speaker 1: Omaha.

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Speaker 2: The not just stereotypes, but the harmful and hateful stereotypes.

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Speaker 2: This woman is conjuring up right now. I mean again,

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Speaker 2: It makes me think of Jesse Smilette. They star an

671
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Speaker 2: empire who conjures up hatred for black Americans.

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Speaker 1: Hatred for gay people and then claims.

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Speaker 2: He was attacked with bleach to make his skin white

674
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Speaker 2: and put a noose around his neck. Some of the

675
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Speaker 2: most hateful things, just straight out of hell that you

676
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Speaker 2: could say. And now you've got this woman claimbing to

677
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Speaker 2: quote Mexican women abduct her, beat her, torture her, and

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Speaker 2: play mariachi music.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, I read that.

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Speaker 7: She.

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Speaker 3: I believe she said that she had to listen to

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Speaker 3: horrible mariachi or Hispanic music while she was being kidnapped

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Speaker 3: and tortured in a closet.

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Speaker 5: That was part of the torture.

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Speaker 3: Was listening to that type of music.

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Speaker 2: Well, not everyone would think that that was torture. Take

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Speaker 2: a listener. Cut twenty three. This is Lila Luciano at CBS.

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Speaker 10: Sure I described her assailants as two Hispanic female adults.

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Speaker 18: According to the FBI, she accused the women of brutally

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Speaker 18: torturing her. The hunt was on and new fears settled

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Speaker 18: in where Latinos were less than ten percent of the population.

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Speaker 5: A lot of.

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Speaker 2: People would tell me, you know, and they had to

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Speaker 2: be Spanic, and they had to be they said, Well, that

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Speaker 2: doesn't give.

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Speaker 4: Them a good name either, But so there was shame

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Speaker 4: in the community.

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Speaker 19: I guess she specifically picked out a gender and a

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Speaker 19: race to name us the suspect. So any Hispanic woman

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Speaker 19: at that time, I'm sure it's getting an eyebrow raised

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Speaker 19: and looking in there wondering, oh, where if she could

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Speaker 19: be connected or one of the suspects.

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Speaker 18: So people were being questioned and stopped and asked the

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Speaker 18: questions by law enforcement.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they were afraid to go out and together in

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Speaker 2: one car or a van, two women.

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Speaker 1: Who'd be suspicious, Yeah, to be suspicious or to.

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Speaker 2: Be stereotyped, to be insulted and take a listener twenty

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Speaker 2: Kelly Hartungu ABC.

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Speaker 20: Sherry Peppini says she's ashamed of her behavior and sorry

711
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Speaker 20: for the pain she caused. Just as she gets ready

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Speaker 20: to plead guilty in court, So the agencies who spent

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Speaker 20: more than five years uncovering her lies, they feel some

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Speaker 20: relief and closure, but also frustration because taking this plea

715
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Speaker 20: deal means she'll likely spend months, not a year, in jail.

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Speaker 20: Shechery peppinie back in federal court to wave indictment, opening

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Speaker 20: the door to plead guilty.

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Speaker 1: In her own kidnapping hopes.

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Speaker 21: She had no other choice, because she's taught and she

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Speaker 21: knows as if this thing comes to actually goes to trial,

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Speaker 21: and we've started parading in the witnesses and all the evidence,

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Speaker 21: so we've got she's got nowhere to go.

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Speaker 11: I'm very confident we would have got a conviction.

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Speaker 19: If that went to trial.

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Speaker 20: Facing trial for thirty five felony charges and the possibility

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Speaker 20: of as many as twenty five years in jail, the

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Speaker 20: mother of two, accepting a plea deal, her recommended sentence

728
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Speaker 20: reduced to no more than fourteen months. Through tears in

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Speaker 20: the courtroom, Peppini dabbing her eyes with a tissue, her

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Speaker 20: attorney consoling her as she nervously answered the judges questions

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Speaker 20: to ensure she understands what happens next.

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Speaker 2: Dabbing her eyes in the courtroom. People aren't consoling her.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Sheriff Johnson is the one that needs to

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Speaker 2: be consoled. And everybody that spent their time, blood, sweat

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Speaker 2: and tears trying to find Cherry Peppini.

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Speaker 1: Now she's like babbing her eyes in the court. You

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Speaker 1: know what, Just stop, Peppenie.

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Speaker 2: You've done enough, Angie Arnold, for Pete's sake, is is

739
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Speaker 2: this Sherry.

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Speaker 1: Pepenie's world and we're just living in it. Is it

741
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Speaker 1: all about her?

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Speaker 17: Well, she thinks it is, and she's creating this world

743
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Speaker 17: that she wants to live in. She feeds off of

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Speaker 17: this chaos, and she creates more and more chaos to

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Speaker 17: keep us all wondering, like we all are on this show,

746
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Speaker 17: right every I'm wondering.

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Speaker 3: This is terrible.

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Speaker 17: This is a terrible thought. I'm going to share with you.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, go ahead, don't hold back now.

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Speaker 17: I'm wondering how much fun her and her boyfriend were

751
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Speaker 17: having shaving her head, giving her bruises. I mean, I wonder,

752
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Speaker 17: Oh my gosh, we're all going, oh my god, this

753
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Speaker 17: poor woman, her beautiful blonde hair was shaved and everything.

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Speaker 17: It was probably they were probably enjoying every minute of it.

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Speaker 17: They were getting some sort of ode satisfaction out of

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Speaker 17: doing this to her. On top of everything else.

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Speaker 14: The ex boyfriend went along with her tail because she

758
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Speaker 14: kept telling him her husband was going to do horrific

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Speaker 14: things if she went back home. And she's done this

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Speaker 14: in the past. And Nancy hate to bring up, you know,

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Speaker 14: the stereotyping, but you and I lived through Jennifer Wilbanks

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Speaker 14: the runaway bride outside of Atlanta when she went out

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Speaker 14: for a run and she was kidnapped by a Latino

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Speaker 14: man and turned up in New Mexico.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I remember it really well. Take a listen to this.

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Speaker 22: Police investigators made an afternoon visit to the lakefront home

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Speaker 22: in Georgia, where Jennifer Wilbanks is now in seclusion, last

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Speaker 22: seen publicly hiding under a blanket as she left for

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Speaker 22: New Mexico. The case of the runaway broad may now

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Speaker 22: lead to criminal charges and it did.

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Speaker 1: I remember it really well.

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Speaker 2: Christy Massa climbing that Hispanic male sex assault at her

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Speaker 2: and Winstanlye grabbed her the night before her wedding. She

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Speaker 2: was a runaway bron and she ended up cutting grass

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Speaker 2: for a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 14: At the end of it, she had absolutely no guilt

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Speaker 14: or remorse. When we were questioning her upon her return

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Speaker 14: back to Atlanta, she laughed at cameras and she basically

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Speaker 14: like this young woman Sherry thought the whole thing was

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Speaker 14: a game.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not a game, and it was no game

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Speaker 2: for a law enforcement that literally spent blood, sweat and

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Speaker 2: tears trying to find this mom of two much less

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Speaker 2: what this whole thing did to her family.

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Speaker 14: Here is one final fact in this story. So after

786
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Speaker 14: this lengthy investigation and all of these lies are uncovered,

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Speaker 14: Keith Panini filed for divorce from Sherry and wants full

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Speaker 14: custody of their kids. His thought process that Sherry was

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Speaker 14: acting erratically for these past few years while telling this

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Speaker 14: sordid tale of lies to her own children about her kidnapping.

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Speaker 2: Cherry Peppinie is back in court fighting for more visitation

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Speaker 2: and cash. Says she doesn't want her ex to show

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Speaker 2: her children the Hulu docuseries about her crimes. After being

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Speaker 2: exposed for her very intricate hoax involving self inflicted bruises

795
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Speaker 2: and even branding her own skin, she got eighteen months

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Speaker 2: behind bars. Now recall, husband Keith Peppini divorced her and

797
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Speaker 2: got full custody of their two children. He said her

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Speaker 2: disturbance cause quote heartbreaking trauma for the children.

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Speaker 1: I guess it did.

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Speaker 2: He reiterated he was unaware of her scheme and even

801
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Speaker 2: sought help from a hostage negotiator during her disappearance. But

802
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Speaker 2: now Puppeni fires back, claiming her ex is quote reopening

803
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Speaker 2: old wounds to the detriment of their children. According to

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Speaker 2: court officials, Peppini appeared in a Shassa County court on

805
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Speaker 2: issues regarding visitation, child custody, and attorneys fees. While she's

806
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Speaker 2: battling that out in court, let's don't forget what she

807
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Speaker 2: put her family and everybody else through. We wait as

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Speaker 2: just as unfals.

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Speaker 1: Goodbye, friend,