Speaker 1: Flying Lotus.
Speaker 2: Hello.
Speaker 1: What has been the most persistent thought on your mind lately?
Speaker 3: Oh, that's a good question. I think the most persistent
Speaker 3: thought on my mind lately is is, Yeah, I guess
Speaker 3: how to take care of my home.
Speaker 1: How have you been taking care of your home?
Speaker 2: Not very well?
Speaker 3: I think the past couple of years I kind of
Speaker 3: let some things go around the house, and I'm paying
Speaker 3: for it a lot this year, literally paying a lot
Speaker 3: for it. So yeah, I've just been I've been thinking
Speaker 3: about how to improve my home a lot lately.
Speaker 2: That's been really persistent in my mind.
Speaker 1: What thing about what aspect of your home are you
Speaker 1: the most excited to improve?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Good question. The exciting thing to improve? Well, I have
Speaker 3: a retaining wall that fell.
Speaker 1: Are there any parts of your house you're afraid to
Speaker 1: go near because you're like, I don't know what that
Speaker 1: looks like. I'm in fear of that.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, there's so many parts of my house or Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like kind of like a horror movie in there.
Speaker 3: I think I think it is possibly haunted. It's a
Speaker 3: house from the thirties. It looks like a horror like
Speaker 3: a blumhouse house. It looks like some blumhouse ship where
Speaker 3: I live for sure, but I love it. I moved
Speaker 3: into a hanted house on purpose. I'm like that kind
Speaker 3: of person.
Speaker 1: You moved into a hont house on purpose. So we
Speaker 1: were talking before we started rolling, and you told me
Speaker 1: that you've been listening to like like UFO podcast podcasts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and is that that's kind of like up your alley.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well for several reasons.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: One, yeah, there's a very specific reason. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I've been really into this stuff lately, ever since that uh,
Speaker 3: you know, David Grush came forward like a couple.
Speaker 1: Said the guy who said that UFOs were real basically, yeah,
Speaker 1: like Area fifty one or something.
Speaker 3: That was lou Elizondo. Yeah that was recent. Yeah, that
Speaker 3: was more recent. But I've been following it and just
Speaker 3: I find itself fascinating that, you know, we're in a
Speaker 3: place where you know, we're having we're having a UAP
Speaker 3: hearing next week about this stuff. There's like, you know,
Speaker 3: one of the biggest hearings about it ever.
Speaker 1: Do you want to meet aliens? Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I want. I mean, I want
Speaker 3: to see something. I want to see something and know
Speaker 3: for sure I definitely believe there's something else going on.
Speaker 3: But is it all aliens? I don't know about that.
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of this stuff is like
Speaker 3: secret technologies that are being hidden from us, maybe for
Speaker 3: good reason.
Speaker 1: I was trying to find like interviews of you and
Speaker 1: like podcasts and stuff while I was set everything up
Speaker 1: that I could, I could listen to. And I listened
Speaker 1: to one where you talked to about uh being Like,
Speaker 1: I forgive me if I'd not remember this correct, but
Speaker 1: you were like visited by some like shadow Creek shadowing.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that like jump start that jump started.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, the paranormal for me.
Speaker 1: The paranormal or did that I think you said that
Speaker 1: jump started something artistically for you.
Speaker 2: Ah well, it just it was one of those things.
Speaker 3: It just blew me away, man, And I was I was,
Speaker 3: you know, I was a kid who maybe like fifteen
Speaker 3: sixteen or.
Speaker 2: Something like that.
Speaker 3: I wasn't even smoking weed or anything at the time,
Speaker 3: you know, So it was like a real sober experience
Speaker 3: to have to happen to me. Where I woke up
Speaker 3: and I I saw a shadow person, like a silhouette
Speaker 3: type shadow person sitting in my chair, the chair was
Speaker 3: facing the bed.
Speaker 2: Why would the chair be facing the bed. I don't know.
Speaker 3: The thing saw me see it? Oh shit, like God
Speaker 3: ran out the room like no what, I so.
Speaker 4: What do you?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: Do you? What do you think that was?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think for so long I just told myself it's
Speaker 3: just like residual dream stuff that you bring into this world.
Speaker 3: But people have reported this for so long and I
Speaker 3: don't know, and maybe there's something to it.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Do you believe not? Like you, everyone hopes that paranormal
Speaker 1: that like outer world beings that will come to visit us,
Speaker 1: are are going to be uh chill and have peaceful intentions.
Speaker 1: But do you think that is the case or do
Speaker 1: you think they will, as we have done to the
Speaker 1: other creatures on our universe, fuck their ship up.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, if you look at the
Speaker 3: track record right of their you know, the the sightings
Speaker 3: that we've had here with the military, they've all said
Speaker 3: kind of the opposite. It's like they've diffused nukes, they've
Speaker 3: you know, shut down weapon systems and stuff. It seems
Speaker 3: like they're demonstrating that they're like wait, a minute. Now,
Speaker 3: y'all ain't got nothing in control. We can do this
Speaker 3: and if we wanted to, we would, but it never
Speaker 3: seems like a hostile thing. There was this they just
Speaker 3: the Pentagon just reported there about these drones that were
Speaker 3: flying around an airport last year and we don't know
Speaker 3: what kind of drone they were, Like, yeah, we don't
Speaker 3: know what these things are, but we didn't shoot them
Speaker 3: down because they weren't hostile. So, you know, maybe maybe
Speaker 3: they're not out to do anything but show us, you know,
Speaker 3: give us something to worship or something. Who knows, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe they're they're the angels.
Speaker 1: And when you're I don't know if you're actively doing
Speaker 1: research on UFOs every day, but like when when you were,
Speaker 1: we all get stuck in like internet rabbit holes. Rabbit
Speaker 1: hole when you're in a when you're in a rabbit
Speaker 1: hole and you're reading about like UFOs and like the
Speaker 1: beyond the are you are you reading it like ooh
Speaker 1: that's exciting, that's interesting, that, Oh that could be quick,
Speaker 1: could be nice or are you reading it like oh, no,
Speaker 1: like is are do you do you asso see these with?
Speaker 1: Do you sso see these rabbit holes with like anxious
Speaker 1: feelings or like feelings of like excitement and wonder.
Speaker 2: I find.
Speaker 3: There was a moment there where I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, why are they hiding all this stuff?
Speaker 2: What is going on?
Speaker 3: But then after a while just became more fascinating because
Speaker 3: you know, as far as we've come and all this stuff,
Speaker 3: these moments have happened over you know, the past eighty years.
Speaker 3: We've had these moments where we thought we were going
Speaker 3: to get disclosure, we got whistleblowers coming forward with information,
Speaker 3: and you know, we're still waiting for, you know, the
Speaker 3: the one photo to ruin it all right, right right?
Speaker 1: What are some other rabbit holes you find yourself into?
Speaker 2: Good rabbit holes? Mhm. I've been playing a lot of
Speaker 2: a lot of video games lately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been going.
Speaker 2: Back playing a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3: I think the new Silent Hill came out and then
Speaker 3: it kind of took me back into more of like
Speaker 3: some of the old PlayStation games, and then I'm playing
Speaker 3: Fasmophobia on console.
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of people talking about.
Speaker 3: That ghost hunting game, which is a lot of fun,
Speaker 3: a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: And I play Call of Duty with with the crew
Speaker 2: play we play.
Speaker 1: Call Duty seems like the most basic. Well, I'm playing
Speaker 1: it around eighth grade because I realized that, like you're
Speaker 1: like the the the game itself is not what I'm after.
Speaker 1: I just get like a hit in my brain when
Speaker 1: I yeah, like, but it's not a positive Oh I
Speaker 1: am executing my skill in this game. Hit. It's like
Speaker 1: a fuck that piece of shit camper Nube. Like the
Speaker 1: adrenaline of being like fucking angry? Is what is the
Speaker 1: hit that I'm after? And I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: like this, I'm gonna play?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I don't know. I don't get into it
Speaker 3: like that. No, no, no, no, it's it's still enjoyable.
Speaker 3: It's still enjoyable. I'm not mad at nobody. Like if
Speaker 3: I'm if I'm mad at anybody, it's myself because my aim.
Speaker 1: Is trash or what does anything make you.
Speaker 2: Make me mad? Yeah?
Speaker 1: In general?
Speaker 2: Hell yeah?
Speaker 3: Off top though, I feel like I'm pretty chill person.
Speaker 3: I try not to react instantly to stuff.
Speaker 1: You seem like a pretty chill person. I've only been
Speaker 1: I've probably been around you for less than thirty minutes,
Speaker 1: but you have you got a chill vibe.
Speaker 3: Chill yeah, chill Aura. Someone told me I was a
Speaker 3: walking xanax before.
Speaker 1: I was all right, I'll I'll take you take that
Speaker 1: as a point of pride.
Speaker 3: Uh no, no, because I think a lot of times
Speaker 3: I would rather just be confrontational with people.
Speaker 2: But you know, sometimes there's like you.
Speaker 1: Would rather be part confident, Like there's a part of
Speaker 1: your brain where you're like, I want, I feel as though.
Speaker 2: I should speak up for myself right now, But then.
Speaker 1: You have another part of your brain that's kind of
Speaker 1: like I don't want to be up fucking yeah. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I think about that myself as well,
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I think there's something to be
Speaker 1: said about like the path of whatever path, what path
Speaker 1: is going to create the most the amount of peace
Speaker 1: in my own brain? And sometimes I was gonna say
Speaker 1: some I was gonna default the saying that the answer
Speaker 1: is usually to not say anything. But sometimes you say
Speaker 1: something and then you work it out a little bit,
Speaker 1: and then after that you're like, oh, I feel so
Speaker 1: much more peaceful than if I never Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, There's so many moments they're like ooh, was that
Speaker 3: a foot in the mouth, And then someone hits you
Speaker 3: and be like, yo, I'm so glad you said something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, totally, totally, Yeah, I don't know. It's a
Speaker 1: are you into like stoic philosophy kind.
Speaker 2: Of no vibes? No, no, no, no, I'm not. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't subscribe to that. That's that's how stable believe
Speaker 3: or anything. I'm just more like, you know, I'm not
Speaker 3: trying to complicate my life anymore.
Speaker 2: You don't at that point, It's just like, yo, whatever.
Speaker 1: Do you like? And this is obviously something that evolves
Speaker 1: over time, like do you like do you think you're
Speaker 1: does life feel complicated to you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think life gets it feels more complicated. The weight
Speaker 3: of life is more complicated as we as we get older.
Speaker 2: And you know, I think, uh, I envy.
Speaker 3: People who can still, you know, take psychedelics all the
Speaker 3: time and not worry, because I wish I could. I
Speaker 3: feel like I'm at that point where I'm like, nah,
Speaker 3: I'll just I'll just be dwelling on all the things
Speaker 3: I need to do, all the things they gotta get done.
Speaker 3: The retaining walls felled out, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: the house. Yeah, you know, like I just, uh, I
Speaker 3: envy that. But at the same time, I feel like
Speaker 3: I've seen all that stuff already. Sure, I definitely talk
Speaker 3: to them.
Speaker 1: And so that's the fact that what you said, I've
Speaker 1: seen all that stuff before. I'm I ask out of
Speaker 1: genuine curiosity, why do you feel as though things get
Speaker 1: more complicated as you get older? Because I would think
Speaker 1: it would be the opposite, because when you're young, you
Speaker 1: don't you have no frames of references.
Speaker 2: I think you're probably right, But I'm not at that older.
Speaker 3: Okay, you know, I'm still in the older where I'm
Speaker 3: like still like I got the fire in me, you know,
Speaker 3: but I'm not like when I don't have that anymore,
Speaker 3: then I'll probably be that older where I'm like, yeah, fuck.
Speaker 2: It, fuck man.
Speaker 1: Well but you can. But yeah, but there's some some
Speaker 1: people lose the fire when they're like nineteen. And then some.
Speaker 3: People, yeah, because they they ruined their lives early on
Speaker 3: or something, they did something, and they just like they
Speaker 3: had that moment.
Speaker 2: Where they're like they probably ain't gonna get no better
Speaker 2: than this. That's bum Well, what keeps?
Speaker 1: What's what are you fired up about?
Speaker 3: I'm fired up about the possibilities. I'm fired up about
Speaker 3: the tools and learning. I'm always learning stuff. And you know,
Speaker 3: I'm always trying to learn stuff about music, and you know,
Speaker 3: I get really excited about that stuff all time, filmmaking
Speaker 3: things and writing ideas, and you know, I have all
Speaker 3: these movies in my head I want to make, and
Speaker 3: so it's that part is, yeah, keeps me, keeps me
Speaker 3: super motivated.
Speaker 1: Kind of what kind of movies you have to watch?
Speaker 3: I like to watch all types of stuff I don't like.
Speaker 3: I don't like war movies as much, but that's been
Speaker 3: my opinions on that have changed a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's some like you know, the hard Oscar dramas that
Speaker 3: come out around now till January Oscar season. I usually
Speaker 3: don't like those movies or I just choose not to
Speaker 3: watch them, just because when I do have the time
Speaker 3: to watch a movie and I kind of want to
Speaker 3: just be entertained and have a good time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't want to get into like a deep
Speaker 1: You ever watch Shindler's List.
Speaker 3: It's actually on my list to watch soon and depress myself.
Speaker 1: Well, it's been on my list for about seven years now,
Speaker 1: since the nineties. Yeah, because I just keep I'm like,
Speaker 1: because I'm never gonna be in the mood.
Speaker 3: No, it's so funny you say that because I did
Speaker 3: all I've been doing all the Spielbergs stuff the past
Speaker 3: couple of months, and that's like hanging over like, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm waiting for you, you know whatever.
Speaker 1: Well, if you're doing if you were like if you are,
Speaker 1: like I am making it a thing to sit down
Speaker 1: and watch all the spiel and you come across it,
Speaker 1: then you're like, yeah, there.
Speaker 3: You know, I had just watched ET for the first time, dude,
Speaker 3: But like that, honestly was probably the most hardcore movie
Speaker 3: I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: What what What? What was it? What was it that
Speaker 1: made it?
Speaker 2: Man? It was hard? Man. That was a hard movie
Speaker 2: just in terms.
Speaker 3: It was like my first time watching it ever, never
Speaker 3: seen it, but it was it was so beautiful and
Speaker 3: and so sweet that it was hardcore, I think because
Speaker 3: it was just so hard hardcore, optimistic about the future,
Speaker 3: about adults, and it was obviously like just so emotional,
Speaker 3: you know, I was. I was profoundly moved by that movie.
Speaker 3: I was like crying for like a half hour watching.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see What's What's what ultimately made you
Speaker 1: cry more Between ET and Chandler's.
Speaker 2: List, It'll be ET for sure. Because there was. As
Speaker 2: soon as I started watching, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm ten washing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, and it's like it's still that thing
Speaker 3: was still effective. Whatever he did, the magic, it's it was,
Speaker 3: it's still there and uh and I was just it
Speaker 3: was so cool to have not seen it this whole
Speaker 3: time and then finally see it.
Speaker 2: It felt like it was like waiting.
Speaker 1: But I like that though. That shows that there's something
Speaker 1: like more moving about optimism than there is about uh,
Speaker 1: depressing ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh yeah. For me, it's because it's so that's
Speaker 2: the movie.
Speaker 3: That's the fiction, is the the optimism and the hopeful
Speaker 3: thing where it's just like, oh man, if only we could,
Speaker 3: you know, if only we could.
Speaker 1: Just I haven't seen et and you know what, what
Speaker 1: what was it that you think made it optimistic?
Speaker 2: Hmmm?
Speaker 3: I think that For one, you know, the aliens were like,
Speaker 3: you know, just here to like look at plants and stuff.
Speaker 3: They were just like biologists, you know, they're just studying stuff.
Speaker 3: And and you know, the the humans, the bad guys,
Speaker 3: they're like kind of the bad guys. They got the
Speaker 3: bad guy music whenever you see the the adults and stuff.
Speaker 3: But even the adults, we're trying to help et. They were, Oh,
Speaker 3: they weren't trying to kill him.
Speaker 1: Well, I thought that the whole I thought that there,
Speaker 1: like the police guy right, is like trying to kill you.
Speaker 1: Think they're trying to him.
Speaker 2: They're all trying to help you.
Speaker 1: Guy was like, they fly over him.
Speaker 2: They need they actually e t or the human.
Speaker 3: The adults pretty much they tried to save him as
Speaker 3: he was dying, and they you know, they hit the
Speaker 3: defibrillator on him.
Speaker 2: It looked as a kid the kids are like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, you're killing him, but they're actually doing their
Speaker 2: best to keep him alive.
Speaker 3: And uh, And I think like the main the main
Speaker 3: bad guy he says to the kid, he was like,
Speaker 3: he was like, you remind me of when I was
Speaker 3: you Like, I've been waiting for this moment since I
Speaker 3: was ten years old.
Speaker 1: That's really sweet.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I was just like, and this is the this
Speaker 3: is the guy who's got the bad guy. I mean,
Speaker 3: I just thought that was like a really interesting choice
Speaker 3: to make. And it was just still like you could
Speaker 3: have made the bad guy be like no, you're stupid,
Speaker 3: We're gonna lock you in a room, and you know
Speaker 3: you're no one will believe you and all this stuff.
Speaker 3: They could have done that and it would have still worked,
Speaker 3: But like they chose to make the the parents and
Speaker 3: the adults still well, optimistic and hopeful.
Speaker 2: And I think this is really hardcore in a weird way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's nice. That a movie where it's like
Speaker 1: we're all going to eventually give in to our humanity
Speaker 1: and that that's the destination, and not like we're all
Speaker 1: going to kill each other.
Speaker 2: It'd be nice, wouldn't it.
Speaker 1: It will be nice. It will be nice. You want
Speaker 1: to take a phone call, Let's do it. Hey, what's
Speaker 1: up man?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 6: I didn't think i'd actually i'd actually get.
Speaker 1: Through to you now that you're here. What's up, dog?
Speaker 1: What's your name?
Speaker 6: My name is Isaac, Isaac?
Speaker 1: What's up, Isaac? We want to talk about today? What's
Speaker 1: going on.
Speaker 6: I'm twenty four and I'm living with my parents for
Speaker 6: the first time since I was fourteen, and it is
Speaker 6: just what I remember. But I don't have a way
Speaker 6: of leaving unless I want to go be homeless again.
Speaker 1: Wait, why why did you leave the house for the
Speaker 1: first time when you were fourteen?
Speaker 6: My parents threw me out.
Speaker 1: Really where'd you go?
Speaker 6: It was Kansas City is where we were at. And
Speaker 6: I was homeless around there, kind of just out on
Speaker 6: the street for five years until twenty nineteen when I
Speaker 6: moved to Colorado with my brother.
Speaker 1: And then what brought what brought you back back in?
Speaker 1: Like did you have like a what's the opposite of
Speaker 1: a falling out? Did you have a coming in with
Speaker 1: your parents?
Speaker 6: Not really, so we didn't. We didn't talk for a
Speaker 6: really long time. And it was about twenty nineteen. End
Speaker 6: of twenty nineteen, I was not on good terms with
Speaker 6: my brother, and uh, we were. We were going our
Speaker 6: separate ways, and I started talking to my parents again
Speaker 6: and they they drove up and picked me up and
Speaker 6: dropped me off in Montana. They were on their way
Speaker 6: to Washington for some military think and uh, that was
Speaker 6: like the first time that I had seen them. But
Speaker 6: it was only to the car, right, you know, So
Speaker 6: it wasn't it wasn't a whole lot of talking. I
Speaker 6: told them how much I appreciated it, and I gave
Speaker 6: them gas money.
Speaker 2: But wait, what did your what did your parents? What
Speaker 2: did what happened with your parents?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 3: What did you why? Why do you have beef with them.
Speaker 3: Why did they have beef with you? Why did they
Speaker 3: and why they kick you out?
Speaker 2: What did you do?
Speaker 6: There are kind of a lot of reasons, but the
Speaker 6: biggest kicker was that I had started I was a
Speaker 6: dumb high school kid. I'd started smoking weed. And since
Speaker 6: they both worked for the government, that's like, we'll lose
Speaker 6: their job, We'll all lose everything.
Speaker 1: If they over some weed.
Speaker 6: If no one finds out over some weed.
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's some bullshit.
Speaker 6: Well they tried to handle it. Well, first thing, my
Speaker 6: mom did just kick me. How to hide in the woods?
Speaker 6: I said, they didn't want it in the house. And
Speaker 6: I was a shipthead and I was a shithead and
Speaker 6: not not listening.
Speaker 1: Why does that? Why does this phone call feel like
Speaker 1: it does weirdly mirror the plot of E T where
Speaker 1: it's like we have a secret we must keep.
Speaker 3: From Yeah, it sounds like you just you're just trying
Speaker 3: your best, man, like you, you know, trying to you know,
Speaker 3: you're just trying to smoke weed and and do your
Speaker 3: thing and don't let that ship get to you so hard, man.
Speaker 6: You know, well, I mean we've got a we've got
Speaker 6: a better deal now, just not within twenty five feet
Speaker 6: of the house, and I'm better about keeping it outside
Speaker 6: set up in the in the backyard, out by the woods.
Speaker 1: You have a you have a fucking hot box tent
Speaker 1: set up at the back of the woods.
Speaker 6: Damn right, I do.
Speaker 2: What do your parents do in the military.
Speaker 6: My mom's a medic and my stepdad is infantry.
Speaker 2: And you didn't want to do any do any of that,
Speaker 2: did you?
Speaker 6: I tried. I grew up doing military stuff, and I
Speaker 6: went to a bunch of military schools, and when I
Speaker 6: was in high school, I started doing r OTC before
Speaker 6: they threw me out and I rote me from high school.
Speaker 6: But when I tried to when I turned eighteen and
Speaker 6: I tried to apply, apparently I have a scoliosis and
Speaker 6: a bad shoulder, and they wouldn't let me come in
Speaker 6: for either of those things. That my rotato cuff, Well, yeah,
Speaker 6: I have a bad rotator cuff on my right arm,
Speaker 6: and there's certain.
Speaker 2: Things I couldn't do with that. Huh. With that rotator
Speaker 2: cuff it made you couldn't.
Speaker 6: Do for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: So what do you do now?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 6: I was maintenance at at a string of hotels. I
Speaker 6: did a security for a while, but I'm I'm kind
Speaker 6: of between. I started a new one on on Monday,
Speaker 6: so so I'm excited. But I'll just be slaying pizzas.
Speaker 1: That's good, slaking pizzas, and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, make some money, man, make some money. Don't don't
Speaker 3: give up on yourself though, you know, like this is
Speaker 3: just a moment in time. You know, you're still really young,
Speaker 3: twenty four. That ain't too crazy, though, you got you
Speaker 3: got a time.
Speaker 6: That's good to hear a lot of people.
Speaker 3: I know people, I know people in their forties. You know,
Speaker 3: I don't know what to do anymore, you know, like
Speaker 3: don't worry.
Speaker 6: Like it's like everybody everyone feels that way sometimes.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely you got this.
Speaker 1: It is what we were kind of just talking about,
Speaker 1: like like like trying to and I feel the same way.
Speaker 1: I Yeah, I have a I was looking at my
Speaker 1: I'm trying to like track my brain over time, so
Speaker 1: I was like looking at journal entries from years ago,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm twenty four and I wrote
Speaker 1: like when I was twenty four, I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: twenty four and I like feel dead. But now I'm
Speaker 1: twenty six and I'm still I'm still optimistic. You know,
Speaker 1: why not, why not be optous, why not be optimistic?
Speaker 1: You're gonna fucking give you give yourself a shot of
Speaker 1: some fucking kind, you know, because I mean, you're not
Speaker 1: You're gonna be alive with modern medicine for the next
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty years.
Speaker 6: So right, seriously, I don't know.
Speaker 2: That'll be a lot.
Speaker 6: I'll find at least.
Speaker 2: That'd be a lot.
Speaker 1: But just before we go, Uh, what did you say?
Speaker 1: Your name was, Isaac? Isaac?
Speaker 2: Isaac. That's a good name.
Speaker 1: That's a good name. That's a very strong name. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of I mean it sincerely. I mean this sincerely.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of nobility in slinging pieces
Speaker 1: because you know, there's a lot of uh stoned fourteen
Speaker 1: year olds out there who you might see yourself in
Speaker 1: who have stolen their mom's credit card to buy a
Speaker 1: pizza and helping them those folks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and.
Speaker 3: Obviously you know you're you're trying to be in the military.
Speaker 3: You know you you probably have really strong values. You
Speaker 3: I'll just just keep doing you.
Speaker 1: Work hard, Isaac, Is there anything else you want to
Speaker 1: say to the people of the computer or to God
Speaker 1: before we go?
Speaker 6: Keep your head up. Even when things get get really dark,
Speaker 6: the sound always comes back up.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 6: Take care, I appreciate it. Thanks for talking with me.
Speaker 6: Have a good day.
Speaker 1: That was nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's start a strong Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you were asking me. We were also talking
Speaker 1: and you were like, do people mainly call in to like,
Speaker 1: uh troll you and stuff? And it happens sometimes, But
Speaker 1: I think, uh, I think both. I'm very like.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I think mostly people just at like want to talk
Speaker 1: about life because it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, as as they should.
Speaker 3: I'm glad people don't squander this month.
Speaker 1: You should we do another one.
Speaker 8: From Yoda?
Speaker 1: What's up Yoda?
Speaker 8: Not much? What's up with you?
Speaker 2: Chilling? We're chilling vibe?
Speaker 8: Yeah, both of you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're both yea.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, little it's it's been crazy though since the
Speaker 8: since yesterday though, it's been pretty crazy.
Speaker 3: Has been pretty crazy crazy in your life? Or is
Speaker 3: just crazy in the world?
Speaker 8: I think in my life and in the world. So
Speaker 8: it's like a synergetic thing.
Speaker 2: What happened, what happened to you? We all know what's
Speaker 2: going on in the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what's what's going on with you?
Speaker 8: I wouldn't say it's like super crazy. But so I'm
Speaker 8: doing a PhD and it's just a lot going on,
Speaker 8: and then plus the election, so now I'm like worried
Speaker 8: about I guess how that might affect I guess job
Speaker 8: opportunities and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, what's your industry.
Speaker 8: I'm in ecology and evolutionary biology, so like nature stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 8: you know the parties, Well, the Red Party doesn't give
Speaker 8: a fuck about that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, well then you know how much how much
Speaker 3: longer are you in school?
Speaker 8: I think what four more years? Yeah? Just started?
Speaker 3: All right, great, so by the time you're out of school,
Speaker 3: we'll have a new president and most likely be Democrat
Speaker 3: and reverse all the ship that's about to happen, right, so.
Speaker 1: You'll be there's that optimism, don't trip?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, where do you say? Where do you live?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 8: I'm just moved to Colorado, So just.
Speaker 9: Like Colorado, you'll be fine to just rocks on fire,
Speaker 9: You'll be fine over there.
Speaker 1: That's cool. Well, at least here's what I'll say this,
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of stuff with like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the election where I'm where, I'm like, well, fuck, what
Speaker 1: can I like? At least you're at least you're in
Speaker 1: a position where you are can like actually do something
Speaker 1: about the ship that you care about. You know, Like
Speaker 1: that's I think there's a lot to be sometimes anxiety
Speaker 1: is just like you can you can cannot like here curate,
Speaker 1: but you can work on it by just the fact
Speaker 1: that you're doing something, like, you know, take the pollution
Speaker 1: out of one stream. I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: if that made any sense, but you know, whatever you
Speaker 1: can do.
Speaker 8: Yeah, do the best we can. That's like, I guess
Speaker 8: what all of us are trying to be.
Speaker 2: At the end of the day.
Speaker 3: I think you know, no matter who you voted for,
Speaker 3: you know, we're all people looking at each other trying
Speaker 3: to make sense of this moment in reality and time.
Speaker 3: So just continue to have passion for your fellow human being.
Speaker 3: We're all trying. Some of us aren't trying hard, but
Speaker 3: we're all trying. Don't worry, We'll be all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're collectively trying. When you throw us all together
Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: Manah, here's the thing is, I don't do this as
Speaker 1: a bit.
Speaker 8: I'm also a green guy.
Speaker 1: You're green. Oh yeah, we're we're two point nine green.
Speaker 8: Guys, exactly, it's three.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else? Is there anything else you want
Speaker 1: to say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 8: Uh yeah, flying logs. I love your stuff, guys, I
Speaker 8: love your stuff. This is my first time getting on
Speaker 8: after like thousands of calls. And yeah, I'm also an artist.
Speaker 8: So check my stuff on Instagram at goth hobby with
Speaker 8: three H goth hobby so g oh yeah goth g
Speaker 8: O T H h H O B.
Speaker 6: B I T.
Speaker 8: I do like clothes and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: So if you want to it with two.
Speaker 8: Hs, you guys got with three.
Speaker 1: H triple H triple all right, cool man, I'll check
Speaker 1: it out. Why not, I'll check it out for sure.
Speaker 8: It was nice talking to you guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, take care man, take care brother.
Speaker 8: All right, be easy I need to do.
Speaker 1: Do People like send you beats often and they're like,
Speaker 1: what do you think of my beats?
Speaker 2: Every day?
Speaker 1: How do you ever look at them?
Speaker 3: I probably shouldn't say yeah, right, because if I do,
Speaker 3: then I'll get in trouble.
Speaker 1: But you shouldn't say yes, or shouldn't say I shouldn't.
Speaker 3: Say yes right because then they're oh shit, I do occasionally.
Speaker 3: I'm occasionally I'm really curious and I like to just
Speaker 3: know what's going on. So yeah, I do listen, and
Speaker 3: it's always the ones who don't have a following that
Speaker 3: are just crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah interesting. I was also gonna, I'm gonna, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have a little uh fanboy moment here. My favorite
Speaker 1: work of yours is the Awkward TV show show.
Speaker 2: That was a fun moment in time, man.
Speaker 1: Honestly, like, we were sitting here and I was looking
Speaker 1: at the chat while it was playing, and it was
Speaker 1: like and someone in the chat was like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: my favorite work of yours is the Aqua TV show
Speaker 1: show theme song. And then I fucking remembered. I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: he did the TV show show theme song. I've like
Speaker 1: watched that on YouTube on a repeat.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, it's funny because I forget sometime I'm sure,
Speaker 3: I'm sure, you know, and then sometimes it'll come on,
Speaker 3: you know, adult Swim or something like.
Speaker 2: That, and then the intro come out.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. Do you are you an Aquatan fan?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, big fan, big fan of
Speaker 3: Dave Willis, the writer he did that show Your Pretty
Speaker 3: Face Is Going to Hell.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was a fun fact. I was an intern
Speaker 1: on that show seven years ago. How was Atlanta? It
Speaker 1: was very it was difficult.
Speaker 2: It seems like a tough, tough gig.
Speaker 1: Well here's the Here's like, this is like a full
Speaker 1: circle moment for me. Is when I worked on the show.
Speaker 1: One of my jobs was, like everyone, all the people,
Speaker 1: the cast is like heavily caked in red. So the
Speaker 1: cast is heavily painted in red. And like, one of
Speaker 1: my jobs was they had the showers on set, and
Speaker 1: one of my jobs was to like scrub red paint
Speaker 1: off of showers. And now I'm fucking up showers with
Speaker 1: my green paint. And I'm like, you know, I knew
Speaker 1: we'd make it one day.
Speaker 2: That's right, Yeah, let it let it rain green, bro.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Do you still watch it? Still watch it?
Speaker 1: Alsewie very often, not as much.
Speaker 3: There's not too much stuff on there that I can
Speaker 3: get into. But I'm always watching some of the older classics.
Speaker 3: I want to redo all the Metal Acalypse episodes.
Speaker 1: Redo that cool cool, that'd be sick. Are you smiling? Friends?
Speaker 3: You know I tried to get into that. I love
Speaker 3: that guy, Michael Cusack, I love him. I've been trying
Speaker 3: to get in that show I haven't really got the episode,
Speaker 3: that one that pulls me in, but I know everyone
Speaker 3: loves that one.
Speaker 2: That's like the big show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely like they're the kind of anchor show. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I wasn't really added about the Rick and Morty
Speaker 2: anime though. That really me. Ye, that really disturbed me.
Speaker 1: Why did it disturb you?
Speaker 2: I didn't like the animation, Yeah, I feel yeah, just like.
Speaker 3: The I think it just kind of lost the comedy
Speaker 3: in some of the just the beats got lost because
Speaker 3: the animation is weird.
Speaker 2: It just it just uh m, do.
Speaker 1: You have any thoughts or desires to like do any
Speaker 1: more like animation stuff in the future.
Speaker 3: I love animation. I do animation at home and stuff.
Speaker 3: I use unreal engine and make stuff. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 3: lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. But I
Speaker 3: have to work on music right now. But after a
Speaker 3: couple more months, I can reward myself with some some
Speaker 3: silly meat projects.
Speaker 1: I love. That makes me so happy. You were like,
Speaker 1: after I finished working, I'm going to reward myself more work.
Speaker 1: It's a good. It's a good. It's a good sign.
Speaker 3: I really do. I really love it. It's so much fun.
Speaker 1: You want to take a phone call.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm Greg.
Speaker 1: Hey, what's up man? How you doing? What's your name?
Speaker 1: My name is Tom, Tom, Tom Thomas.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well I just want to say, first of all, first
Speaker 4: time caller, big time fan, I'm coming to your show
Speaker 4: on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Oh cool. Oh you'll be at the show on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Very nice?
Speaker 2: Is it here?
Speaker 1: It's Hollywood Forever? Yeah, yeah, it's I was always funny
Speaker 1: that like a bunch of people are dead outside and
Speaker 1: have a good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I played there a couple of times. It's really nice.
Speaker 1: What's up with you? Thomas? Would you want to talk
Speaker 1: about today?
Speaker 4: Well, the biggest thing in my life right now is that,
Speaker 4: uh I may be getting shunned from my family and
Speaker 4: everyone I know.
Speaker 2: Uh done, may be getting what shunned?
Speaker 4: Shunned?
Speaker 1: Why why?
Speaker 4: Well it's a long story, but pretty much, uh you know,
Speaker 4: just uh all I put this.
Speaker 2: I don't want to myself, to be honest.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm a little nervous on the edge of whatever. Whatever
Speaker 1: you want to share, man, it's it's whatever, whatever, whatever,
Speaker 1: how much of this you want to share is up
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: No, I want to know. Yeah, you didn't call it
Speaker 3: here for nothing show what's up?
Speaker 4: No, definitely, Now, I was raised up Joebah's witness.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you know I'm looking at a guy who
Speaker 3: was raised up Jehoah's witness right.
Speaker 4: Now, Okay, but yeah that way. Yeah, but of course,
Speaker 4: you know it's something that you know, I don't believe
Speaker 4: in anymore. And so I've kind of been doing my
Speaker 4: thing for a couple of years now. But recently, you know,
Speaker 4: I've been dating and you know, been seeing someone and
Speaker 4: and you know, when you are gained something, you want
Speaker 4: to have them over. And so, uh, it just came
Speaker 4: down to that. Somehow my parents, you know, found out
Speaker 4: that I was seeing someone and that you know, she
Speaker 4: stayed the night and yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: By a family. Yeah, well that's fucking wild. Yeah, are
Speaker 2: you fucking theious? Are you for real?
Speaker 4: Nois? Yeah? Man, you know go on YouTube and and
Speaker 4: and search up ex Joe's witnesses and oh yeah, people
Speaker 4: have all different crazy stories. You know, it's not comed
Speaker 4: I've heard.
Speaker 2: I've heard I've heard some things. Yeah, that's that's really rough.
Speaker 3: And you know, there's a part of me that wants
Speaker 3: to just say, you know, give them the time too
Speaker 3: to get past it and for everyone to get over it.
Speaker 3: But you know, you never really know. You never really know,
Speaker 3: but you can always hope. But you can't let that
Speaker 3: stop you from your happiness and being who you are.
Speaker 4: No, definitely. I mean I've been on this journey for
Speaker 4: a couple of years now and like you know, it's
Speaker 4: it's been pretty rough. Like you know, when it first happened,
Speaker 4: this is like fairly fresh within a month, you know,
Speaker 4: like I kind of knew it was gonna happen sooner
Speaker 4: or later. But it's just you know, just seeing the effects,
Speaker 4: Like it affects my parents more than anything. But it's
Speaker 4: like you can't really you can't really open up and
Speaker 4: talk to them because for me, it's like, you know,
Speaker 4: I just don't believe in in the face like if
Speaker 4: you start, if you again, you know, if you do
Speaker 4: your research or like you know, the whole history of it,
Speaker 4: it's pretty pretty wild. And like you know that they
Speaker 4: they use done it as like a control tactic, but
Speaker 4: the way they teach it, it's like a loving thing
Speaker 4: that you know when when you shine your your child
Speaker 4: or your parent whatever to help them see that, yeah,
Speaker 4: you see you're you're trying to help them see the
Speaker 4: error of their way so that they come back. But
Speaker 4: in reality it's just a control tactic too, you know,
Speaker 4: get get you to go back to, you know, being
Speaker 4: part of the organization. But like you know, already told myself,
Speaker 4: like you know, I don't believe I'm not gonna live
Speaker 4: a lot anymore. But it's like you know, freedom isn't free. Yeah,
Speaker 4: this is saily, one of the prices I have to pay.
Speaker 1: What's your name? Man? Sorry for everyone's Thomas.
Speaker 4: Tom.
Speaker 1: We did that. We said it four times Tom. Yeah, Man,
Speaker 1: I I mean this sincerely. I hope you really, I
Speaker 1: really mean this. I think you are completely utterly entitled
Speaker 1: to live a life where you can simultaneously believe whatever
Speaker 1: you want and live your life however you want, and
Speaker 1: have people in your life who care, care about you
Speaker 1: and love you. Man. Yeah, I I I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: hear you're struggling with these particular people, but I hope
Speaker 1: that you remain optimistic that the people who will love
Speaker 1: you and support you regardless of how you want to
Speaker 1: live your life do exist, even even even if it's
Speaker 1: just you for now, you know, even if just your
Speaker 1: you accept yourself, you know, yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, don't get me wrong. Like I have family
Speaker 4: that that's not even like you know, never been j
Speaker 4: W and like, you know, one of my aunts, you know,
Speaker 4: she texted me, She's like, hey, you know pretty much
Speaker 4: invited me over for Thanksgiving, you know, coming up, and
Speaker 4: you know, I haven't celebrated Thanksgiving and like I don't
Speaker 4: know over eighteen years since you know, both my family
Speaker 4: like converted over there, right, But it's like, you know,
Speaker 4: that's not my family. You know, they don't care, like
Speaker 4: they don't judge, and so I know that it's I
Speaker 4: know there's good people out there, but it's just, you know,
Speaker 4: I really came to like I'm already okay with like,
Speaker 4: you know, not having the same friendships with with the
Speaker 4: people I used to go to church with and you know,
Speaker 4: those relationships. But when it's your parents, you know, it's
Speaker 4: the people that raised you, Like you know, they're doing
Speaker 4: it because they feel like they're they're trying to be
Speaker 4: loyal to God. And I mean, who am I to
Speaker 4: tell them, you know, to not be loyal to God.
Speaker 4: That's what they honestly believe.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I think you just need to give them time. If
Speaker 3: you ask me, I think you just everyone needs a
Speaker 3: little bit of time to heal from whatever this moment is.
Speaker 3: I think that, you know, I've heard similar stories and
Speaker 3: it may have taken years for these things to heal,
Speaker 3: but they do in time. And I would just hope
Speaker 3: that you know, you remember the love your families love
Speaker 3: and know that at the end of the day, they
Speaker 3: really do love you. They just don't. They don't know
Speaker 3: any better. They're just grown babies, you know. So yeah,
Speaker 3: just just have faith at the time it'll it'll you'll
Speaker 3: be able to pick up and they'll understand who you
Speaker 3: are and and love that.
Speaker 4: I mean, I just I just have to be okay
Speaker 4: with that because you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 4: I can't change the past.
Speaker 2: That's right. And do you want to? Right? Do you?
Speaker 2: Do you want to change the paths?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 3: Do you You don't want to change bads? You want
Speaker 3: to continue doing what you're doing. So let them learn
Speaker 3: to love you and accept you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you have you gotten to do any drugs
Speaker 1: since you since you left? Have you tried cocaine? Have
Speaker 1: you strippers?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: What have you got?
Speaker 2: Have you been?
Speaker 1: Have you like let it ride at all? Right?
Speaker 2: Full extreme?
Speaker 4: You know that's the thing. It's like, that's like the
Speaker 4: thing with you know x j w Is. You know
Speaker 4: they feel like, oh, you know that I'm not in anymore.
Speaker 4: I have to live like everyone else and like party hard.
Speaker 4: But no, like I've you know, I've gone out clubbing
Speaker 4: and partying and that's been fun. And I tried, you know,
Speaker 4: smoking weed a couple of times with my with my date,
Speaker 4: but you know, I didn't get high either time. So
Speaker 4: like maybe I'm just being.
Speaker 3: Able to who's the chick, Who's who's whose date. She
Speaker 3: sounds like a good influence. She's like, I'm trying to
Speaker 3: fuck in your house. I'm trying to fuck you in
Speaker 3: your house, and you're gonna smoke this weed too. She
Speaker 3: sounds like a good influence. I like her.
Speaker 4: No, she's pretty cool. I won't say her name because
Speaker 4: I don't think, you know, I don't know if she's
Speaker 4: told her Well, how'd you guys meet? Uh? Hinge?
Speaker 1: Very nice. She also come from like a like a
Speaker 1: like a religious background or anything like that. She's GONNAPERI you.
Speaker 4: Grew up Catholic. You grew up Catholic, but you know
Speaker 4: she had you know, she had her own like you know,
Speaker 4: seeing stuff in her childhood that kind of turned her
Speaker 4: off from religion. So like, you know, she you know,
Speaker 4: she's been very like compassionate, you know with my situation.
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, it sounds like you need to hang
Speaker 3: on to that one right there.
Speaker 4: And you let your parents coming with me to your
Speaker 4: show on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Oh cool, all right, I'm excited to meet you guys.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I try to try to. I try to meet everyone
Speaker 1: after the show. So if you can be like I'm
Speaker 1: the guy who talked about being an next Jehovah's witness
Speaker 1: and we can be like holy Ship we talked on
Speaker 1: the phone like two days ago. Well ship, man, I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to uh to seeing Yeah, thanks for thanks,
Speaker 1: thanks for thanks for calling into the show and being
Speaker 1: fucking genuine about your life. Man. Yeah, yeah, I mean difficult.
Speaker 1: I hope. I hope, like I said that, whatever direction
Speaker 1: you choose to go with your life, you know, I
Speaker 1: hope you're optimistic that you'll you'll find people to be
Speaker 1: there with you.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I have, you know, I've connected with people recently,
Speaker 4: you know, meet new people and you know just already
Speaker 4: have like you know, someone who's offering to you know,
Speaker 4: let me stay at their place if if you know,
Speaker 4: I have to move out because I mean I don't
Speaker 4: live with my parents, but I do rent for my dad.
Speaker 4: So like it depends, you know, how you define if
Speaker 4: I live on my own or not. But anyway, yeah,
Speaker 4: like I'm trying to, you know, expand spread my wings
Speaker 4: and you know, I'm back in therapy, so talking to
Speaker 4: my therapist about it and you know, just trying to
Speaker 4: you know, just be prepared for what may come.
Speaker 2: That's great, That's the best you can do. You're doing the.
Speaker 1: Work, Thomas. Is there anything I'm gonna say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean just a big fan of the stream
Speaker 4: or the podcast. Been listening since twenty twenty one, called
Speaker 4: over a hundred times. Don't give up, just keep calling,
Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean your your show is pretty entertaing
Speaker 4: I listened to all the time when I'm at work.
Speaker 1: Thanks man, I appreciate that. I'm uh, I'll see you.
Speaker 1: I'll see you on Saturday. And I think I think
Speaker 1: it'll be a good show. I think it'll be fun.
Speaker 1: We'll uh we will dance on the graves of all
Speaker 1: the dead people afterwards.
Speaker 4: All right, sounds good.
Speaker 1: Thanks for doing all right, see you later, see you later.
Speaker 4: All right, thanks forever.
Speaker 1: Bye, Thanks Tom. How you doing good?
Speaker 2: I'm good. Good. Do you?
Speaker 1: Were you religious growing up?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 3: I wasn't religious, but you know there there's religion practiced,
Speaker 3: but everyone was cool and you know, just do your
Speaker 3: own thing. Yeah, sure, I'll show you this stuff and
Speaker 3: here yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah yeah. No. I I felt like I was
Speaker 1: like when he said I'm about to be shunned by everybody,
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, I was, I thought
Speaker 1: he was gonna like say something worse, worse, but then
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I feel so I felt uh,
Speaker 1: I felt for him. That's like so fucking uh tough
Speaker 1: when like you grow like you grow up and like
Speaker 1: you're kind of taught to believe a certain thing or
Speaker 1: like live a certain way, and then when you try
Speaker 1: to form some independence for yourself, it's like the people
Speaker 1: around you, your parents, your friends, your family should celebrate
Speaker 1: you wanting to fucking you know, grow and improve and
Speaker 1: be your own human being. And it's it's a fucking
Speaker 1: bummer when they don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's their journey though, to to kind of figure
Speaker 3: that out for themselves.
Speaker 2: But it's I always think.
Speaker 3: About that if I would have had parents or upbringing
Speaker 3: where they weren't supportive of me being an artist or
Speaker 3: being creative and stuff, and I'm sure that it would.
Speaker 2: Have been so different because I needed that support. I think.
Speaker 1: Do you have a good relationship with your parents?
Speaker 2: No, they're they're dead.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, do you have a good relationship with the
Speaker 1: with their parents?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes, considering you know, like when of course everyone's going
Speaker 3: to complain a little bit, but yeah.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: I'm very lucky to have had some some really good influences.
Speaker 1: Do you do you have kids?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: How many kids you have?
Speaker 2: I have one?
Speaker 1: What's how old is your kid? It's four? What is it?
Speaker 1: What's that like?
Speaker 2: Uh, it's an asshole?
Speaker 1: I mean I'm sure. Yeah, Well, when you're four years old,
Speaker 1: you don't care about you know, you're you're kind of
Speaker 1: you're operating on a of course you're gonna be an asshole.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah you should as you do. I just got
Speaker 2: a puppy too.
Speaker 1: You got a puppy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a little puppy.
Speaker 1: What kind of puppy?
Speaker 2: Little Boston Terrier?
Speaker 1: That's really nice. He's like, is it what's the what's
Speaker 1: your favorite part about having a kid?
Speaker 3: The innocent kind of wonderment, you know, that that thing
Speaker 3: that the magic where you're just like you want to preserve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that I've been I don't like, I've been just
Speaker 1: been thinking about like what would be like to have
Speaker 1: a kid, And I'm like, does it does it feel
Speaker 1: like you're like like living life over again in a way?
Speaker 8: Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that a feeling that you have?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, I know you, I think I know what you're
Speaker 3: talking about, But it doesn't feel like that. It feels
Speaker 3: more like the responsibility and the wait is heavier, Like
Speaker 3: now I can't kill myself. Now I can't blow my
Speaker 3: brains out like I wanted to. You know, now you
Speaker 3: have a reason.
Speaker 1: That's good. I think everyone needs reasons not to fucking
Speaker 1: kill themselves.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't mean it, but you know what I mean. Sure, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just that you you kind of have to do
Speaker 3: your best and you have to right, you have to
Speaker 3: give it your goal.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I've talked about this on this podcast before, but
Speaker 1: like sometimes I'll be like recording my show, or like
Speaker 1: I'll be doing work. I'll be doing some kind of
Speaker 1: work and I'll just like start spazzing out and I'll
Speaker 1: be like I just shut off the laptop, and I
Speaker 1: would get stoned and I would go outside and I
Speaker 1: would be like, Okay, this is you know, I'll be
Speaker 1: like I'm just gonna avoid my responsibility because who cares.
Speaker 1: But it's like you, if you have a kid, you
Speaker 1: can't just shut off the kid, you know. I guess
Speaker 1: that's the closest thing. Yeah, I guess that's the closest You've.
Speaker 3: Seeing them kids iPads and restaurants. Yeah, that's the parents
Speaker 3: shutting them like.
Speaker 1: You had like Coco melan On or fucking.
Speaker 2: Me anything works, jazz videos?
Speaker 1: Did you does your do you ever like do you
Speaker 1: play your music for your kid ever?
Speaker 2: Or is that yeah?
Speaker 1: Just does he like it?
Speaker 3: He's ahead, He's he's ahead. Yeah, listening to like bug
Speaker 3: out jazz music and stuff like that. Yeah, jazz like
Speaker 3: like Crazy Sun Raw or not Coleman. He likes all
Speaker 3: that stuff. And I'm like, yo, Like even even I'd
Speaker 3: be like, yo, can we do something?
Speaker 2: Can you know like how many calls?
Speaker 1: How many calls are in there? We just go people
Speaker 1: are just calling, people are going, let's see how long
Speaker 1: have we been recording for? How are you doing? How
Speaker 1: you we can we could take it we could take
Speaker 1: one or two more and we can get the hour
Speaker 1: in there. Yeah, are you are you having Are you
Speaker 1: having fun?
Speaker 2: This is awesome? Okay?
Speaker 1: Cool?
Speaker 8: Good.
Speaker 3: I've always wanted to be a gecko. Good good, because
Speaker 3: the one animal I wanted to when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: Is that true?
Speaker 3: Yeah, geckos were cool in the nineties, like the early nineties.
Speaker 3: It was like, you know, I remember there was like
Speaker 3: was that like a clothing brand too.
Speaker 1: Like there is there is a clothing brand called Gecko
Speaker 1: Hawaii or yeah, there was like ying gecko clothes something.
Speaker 3: But like the the gecko was was tight in the
Speaker 3: nineties early nineties.
Speaker 2: I mean it's still tight.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 1: What is it that? What is it that drew you
Speaker 1: to the I like that because I like the stoic
Speaker 1: nature of the gecko. Geckos the beautiful creatures.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're like they got the cool hands and
Speaker 3: I love I think I preferred the chameleon more sure,
Speaker 3: but you know, geckos were next in line.
Speaker 1: Well, let's see here, let's see we got a phone
Speaker 1: call from someone who I don't know who they are yet.
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out who they are right now. Hello, Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up man? What's your name?
Speaker 2: Hey? This is Nathan Nathan Nick?
Speaker 1: Nick? Nathan? Oh did you did you try to give
Speaker 1: like did you get did you give your real name?
Speaker 1: And then you get you were like, let me braacktrack,
Speaker 1: that can give it a fake name.
Speaker 10: That's yeah, that's definitely what I was thinking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think we're get Like if you just
Speaker 1: a guy named Nathan, I don't think anyone we're gonna
Speaker 1: find you.
Speaker 3: You know, he knows he's got that voice, buttery voice
Speaker 3: will recognize he does.
Speaker 1: What do you? Okay? Well, what what should we do?
Speaker 1: Should we do Nick or Nathan?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 10: Let's do Nick for sure?
Speaker 2: Beautiful?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: Nick? How you doing?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 1: Would you want to talk about today? Yo?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 8: So I I text you all pain ball?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Man?
Speaker 1: You said, Hey, Gecko and fly Low, I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: joining a paintball team, but I have a lot of reservations.
Speaker 1: What are the reservations?
Speaker 10: Have you ever played paintball?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I have?
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, a long time ago. Yeah.
Speaker 7: It's I mean, it's a fun sport. It's a really
Speaker 7: good exercise. That's why I'm into it. But I don't know,
Speaker 7: it's just like very intense. The people that played are
Speaker 7: very intense or they can be uh, you know, it can't.
Speaker 2: Be you know, I was. I was my first time
Speaker 2: doing that.
Speaker 3: I was really put off by the people who were
Speaker 3: playing actually more than anything.
Speaker 2: I was like the other team, We're just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: what was it?
Speaker 10: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 7: I started playing in the woods, like in the middle
Speaker 7: of nowhere, and you know, I just had like the
Speaker 7: Tipman ninety eight, the classic, you know, twenty dollars gun
Speaker 7: that I got from a friend and playing against people
Speaker 7: with like a thousand dollar guns, which is no competition,
Speaker 7: so it's really not very fun.
Speaker 10: But still like you know, being out in.
Speaker 5: The woods, I just love it.
Speaker 7: Like the adrenaline rush is really you know, addictive, honestly,
Speaker 7: and yeah, just like something to do with your friends
Speaker 7: on the weekend. It's just like a super fun thing.
Speaker 1: You say, you sound like you're convincing yourself that you
Speaker 1: want to do it. You sound like you have way
Speaker 1: more what's the opposite of a reservation consideration?
Speaker 2: So you have good?
Speaker 1: That's good. You sound like you have way more considerations
Speaker 1: than reservations. So I mean go ahead.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, this was.
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, I'm an adult now, I'm you know, in
Speaker 5: my thirties, so I have more money to spend on it,
Speaker 5: and I've moved to area where there's actually like the
Speaker 5: air ball fields.
Speaker 10: Like competitive like leagues and things like that. But uh yeah,
Speaker 10: I just don't know anyone in the leagues been trying
Speaker 10: to get into it. But uh yeah, the reservations I'm
Speaker 10: having of it, Well, I you know.
Speaker 2: Honestly, you know you only live once. Do that ship.
Speaker 2: Just do that ship, Like, don't you think about it.
Speaker 2: Just do it. You can. You can quit whenever you want.
Speaker 2: No one will make you do it forever. Just quit.
Speaker 2: If you don't like it, try it. Live a little bit.
Speaker 1: You could go to war.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could actually go to war or play Call
Speaker 3: of Duty, like all three of those things can probably
Speaker 3: do that for you.
Speaker 2: You could.
Speaker 1: I got what if you what if you just what
Speaker 1: if you just paint the way you get to if?
Speaker 1: I don't know if your favorite part about paintball is
Speaker 1: the paint, It's like, that's kind of that's awesome.
Speaker 2: It's the x ony.
Speaker 1: Don't you do pilates and paint bowls of fruit and
Speaker 1: then you accomplish all the same things.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like run sprints with a Yeah, well I'm.
Speaker 1: So excited for you.
Speaker 2: I'm excited, I really am. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll go. You know what You've ins what's your
Speaker 1: name again?
Speaker 2: Nick?
Speaker 8: Nick?
Speaker 2: Nick?
Speaker 1: You've inspired me. I want to, Uh, I want to
Speaker 1: I want to do something new. Maybe I'll play paint plates.
Speaker 1: You know, I throw out du pilates is just because
Speaker 1: I wanted. I want to do it.
Speaker 2: Do it, give it a shot it absolutely do it.
Speaker 1: I feel like your therapy get I feel like, in
Speaker 1: an indirect way, you therapy geckoed meet today Nick, mm hmm.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I am also gonna try some pilates and the World Cup,
Speaker 10: the super Bowl of Paintballs this weekend. So if anyone
Speaker 10: wants to, uh watch something on YouTube, it's a little bit,
Speaker 10: a little bit weird.
Speaker 2: Is it indoor paintball?
Speaker 10: Check it out?
Speaker 2: What's that? Is it indoor paintball?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 10: No, it's it's outside in Florida.
Speaker 2: Oof, outside in Florida. That's it. Scary as a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, running around outside in Florida with a fake gun.
Speaker 3: Idea again, worried about the people playing, you know, worried
Speaker 3: about the other team?
Speaker 2: Nick?
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 1: people of the computer before we go.
Speaker 10: I appreciate Joe.
Speaker 1: Have a good night, Thanks man, much loved. Thanks Man,
Speaker 1: have a good night. Well flying Lotus. What do you
Speaker 1: what do you do you feel like? Uh? Do you
Speaker 1: feel like you you learned anything from in the past?
Speaker 1: How or do you have any takeaways? Do you have
Speaker 1: any thoughts?
Speaker 2: Nope.
Speaker 3: I think the people who are listening though, or the
Speaker 3: people called in it. It sounds like there's a consistency
Speaker 3: where people need to just like, you know, love themselves
Speaker 3: and yeah, man, learn to as well forgive themselves and
Speaker 3: to forgive the people around them. That was the thing
Speaker 3: that I've kind of taken from ends that man, we're
Speaker 3: just you know, what do you expect, We're all just
Speaker 3: grown babies.
Speaker 1: That's really nice. It's really nice. We're all just grown
Speaker 1: I'm trying to connect it back to ET somehow.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm.
Speaker 2: Sure it's there. I'm sure someone in the chat will
Speaker 2: probably figure it out.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, man, thanks for thanks for coming on the show.
Speaker 1: Is there do you want to do you want to
Speaker 1: do any plugs? Don't plug anything?
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, you guys could check out my new EP
Speaker 3: that came out called Spirit Box.
Speaker 2: It's tight.
Speaker 3: And then There is a movie I made called ash
Speaker 3: that's come out next year.
Speaker 1: Where is it coming through? The cool Man?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Where like you did? You getting like a wide like
Speaker 1: I can go to like my local am?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: What can you tell us about it at all?
Speaker 2: There's a trailer out. You can check out the trailer.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool? Yeah, cool cool? What's it called again?
Speaker 2: Ash? Ash? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Very nice? Well, Flying Letters, thank you for joining me as.
Speaker 2: A thank you so much. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 5: Really goes on the line, taking your phone calls.
Speaker 1: Every night, ever, goes just teaching your
Speaker 2: Line is not really ex