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This 0:01:05.057 --> 0:01:08.378 is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan Lazar 0:01:08.497 --> 0:01:09.417 and Alex Barth. 0:01:09.497 --> 0:01:13.418 I'm Lazar b and Lazarre. Hello, everybody nailed it joined 0:01:13.418 --> 0:01:15.697 as always, buy our bark. 0:01:18.858 --> 0:01:21.418 Here is Evan Lazar and Alex bars. 0:01:23.018 --> 0:01:26.137 All right, everybody, what's up? It feels good to be 0:01:26.298 --> 0:01:29.978 here on a holiday Thursday here at Jalette Stadium and 0:01:30.858 --> 0:01:33.498 festive day here today. Got some free sushi that was 0:01:33.618 --> 0:01:37.578 nice Karma Sushi. Shout out to Karma Sushi, and we 0:01:37.618 --> 0:01:41.698 appreciated that here today. So I've definitely got a full stomach, 0:01:41.697 --> 0:01:44.417 and now we're gonna talk some football, which is always 0:01:44.458 --> 0:01:48.418 fun and a pretty basic normal show here today. I 0:01:48.458 --> 0:01:50.818 know there's gonna be a lot of draft questions as always, 0:01:50.858 --> 0:01:53.138 and we're going to get to them in the second hour. 0:01:53.178 --> 0:01:55.858 We're going to talk a little Patriots bills here in 0:01:55.858 --> 0:01:58.858 the first hour as well as we always do. And 0:01:59.418 --> 0:02:02.138 Alex is also here. Hi, I am here, yep. In 0:02:02.218 --> 0:02:05.058 case you didn't know, Alex also here also on ninety 0:02:05.098 --> 0:02:07.218 eight five the Sports Hub quite a bit this week. Yep. 0:02:07.498 --> 0:02:08.258 Holiday season. 0:02:08.377 --> 0:02:11.058 Yeah, it's it's your time to shine. It's the holiday 0:02:11.138 --> 0:02:14.738 filling schedule, it's this is the Alex Barthes Show. Great. 0:02:14.898 --> 0:02:16.818 I had a great show this morning with with Andrew 0:02:16.858 --> 0:02:17.898 Callahan and Kendrim Middleton. 0:02:17.938 --> 0:02:18.817 Honestly, it was a ton of fun. 0:02:18.858 --> 0:02:21.418 I haven't worked I've worked with Kenda two or three times, 0:02:21.418 --> 0:02:23.898 hadn't obviously no Andrew, but hadn't been on the radio 0:02:23.938 --> 0:02:25.658 with him before today, done podcast, But it was a 0:02:25.658 --> 0:02:26.058 good show. 0:02:26.298 --> 0:02:29.898 You you are the star of ninety eight five. This 0:02:29.938 --> 0:02:32.018 time of year, I won't go you are you are? 0:02:32.257 --> 0:02:34.018 You are on the you are on TV The other 0:02:34.098 --> 0:02:34.657 day too. 0:02:34.618 --> 0:02:37.897 I was You're on TV Film TV tomorrow with Bill 0:02:37.938 --> 0:02:38.898 Perry tend to too. 0:02:38.938 --> 0:02:41.857 Love that, love that. So before we get rolling here 0:02:42.138 --> 0:02:44.298 now and now that I've ribbed Alex enough for for 0:02:44.418 --> 0:02:47.137 being the star of ninety eight five for the next week. Uh, Hey, 0:02:47.138 --> 0:02:49.338 Patriots fans, if you want to see Toyota's best offers, 0:02:49.377 --> 0:02:52.298 including those not seen on TV, go by go to 0:02:52.458 --> 0:02:56.377 buy Atoto. Toyota dot Com is Toyota's official website for 0:02:56.458 --> 0:02:59.538 deals from the official vehicle of the New England Patriots, 0:02:59.578 --> 0:03:02.898 Toyota let's go places and easy to drink, easy to enjoy, 0:03:03.058 --> 0:03:06.218 but like the official beer sponsor of your New England Patriots. 0:03:06.218 --> 0:03:09.938 All right, let's talk a little bit of Bill's Patriots here, 0:03:10.058 --> 0:03:14.738 and uh, my reaction after this game was met with 0:03:14.738 --> 0:03:18.018 with some hostility. I would say some pushback, pushback, some 0:03:18.058 --> 0:03:22.378 better word, some pushback, because I I gave the Patriots 0:03:22.418 --> 0:03:25.898 some flowers in this game for competing against a much 0:03:25.978 --> 0:03:30.538 much better Buffalo Bill's team. And there are certainly nippicks 0:03:30.657 --> 0:03:34.298 of their coaching performance on Sunday, almost as Saturday, I'll 0:03:34.338 --> 0:03:37.858 thrown off. There's certainly nitpicks of their performance on Sunday, 0:03:37.858 --> 0:03:39.578 which I'm sure we will get to. We were actually 0:03:40.298 --> 0:03:43.618 texting about this when I was traveling back and I 0:03:43.658 --> 0:03:45.298 was texting with you and we were kind of in 0:03:45.338 --> 0:03:48.218 disagreement on this then. I don't know if your opinions 0:03:48.258 --> 0:03:51.538 have changed too much, but we'll get to that. My 0:03:51.618 --> 0:03:56.778 biggest takeaway from this game against the Bills is I 0:03:56.898 --> 0:04:01.338 wanted to see proof of concept from Girodmeo and his 0:04:01.458 --> 0:04:09.298 coaching staff that they could go into it and coach 0:04:09.338 --> 0:04:14.378 a game with a concise, clear plan that they could execute. 0:04:14.778 --> 0:04:18.218 It's one thing to have all these grandiose ideas of, oh, 0:04:18.258 --> 0:04:21.658 this is how we're gonna contend or beat Buffalo, but 0:04:21.698 --> 0:04:24.977 the reality is that their team and their personnel cannot 0:04:25.018 --> 0:04:29.498 necessarily execute the most complicated or the most sophisticated of 0:04:29.618 --> 0:04:33.217 game plans. So do you have a game plan that 0:04:33.337 --> 0:04:36.698 not only makes sense for how your strains versus the 0:04:36.738 --> 0:04:39.698 Bills weaknesses and what you could do to beat the Bills, 0:04:40.097 --> 0:04:42.338 that you can also execute? And that's the name of 0:04:42.378 --> 0:04:46.298 the game, right that's coaching and going into this game offensively. 0:04:46.818 --> 0:04:49.498 I think we all were refreshed by the fact that 0:04:49.538 --> 0:04:52.858 they went out there and took Drake may first spin 0:04:52.977 --> 0:04:54.777 a little bit, you know, let him run around a 0:04:54.778 --> 0:04:57.058 little bit let him throw down the field early on 0:04:57.097 --> 0:04:59.178 in this game against man coverage, which I thought was 0:04:59.658 --> 0:05:03.097 crucial to their fast start, was actually taking some shots 0:05:03.457 --> 0:05:06.058 against press man and allowing him to go make plays 0:05:06.097 --> 0:05:08.498 when he sees man to man coverage instead of what 0:05:08.538 --> 0:05:12.298 they did to against Arizona. And the second thing defensively, 0:05:12.337 --> 0:05:14.978 I was even more impressed. And this goes to another 0:05:15.018 --> 0:05:19.058 big picture thing that I wanted to point out. This 0:05:19.217 --> 0:05:24.738 was truly the first time that Gerrodmeo and DeMarcus Covington, 0:05:25.258 --> 0:05:30.017 in their respective roles, currently played Josh Allen. And I 0:05:30.097 --> 0:05:32.017 know that we have a little bit of different opinion 0:05:32.058 --> 0:05:35.017 on Josh Allen, but the point is is that Josh 0:05:35.058 --> 0:05:37.698 Allen is the king of the division right now and 0:05:38.217 --> 0:05:41.938 he's not going anywhere anytime soon. The Bills aren't going anywhere. 0:05:42.217 --> 0:05:45.338 Josh Allen's not going anywhere. So in order for this 0:05:45.418 --> 0:05:48.577 regime to get where they want to go, even if 0:05:48.577 --> 0:05:50.777 it's two to three years from now, they need to 0:05:50.818 --> 0:05:54.138 start laying the foundation of how we are going to 0:05:54.178 --> 0:05:57.217 play defense against Josh Allen and go out there and 0:05:57.258 --> 0:06:00.338 find a way to solve this problem that really goes 0:06:00.378 --> 0:06:03.457 back to twenty twenty, where they've more or less other 0:06:03.538 --> 0:06:06.537 than a win aided twenty twenty one game, have not 0:06:06.658 --> 0:06:09.577 had a lot of answers for Josh Allen. So in 0:06:09.618 --> 0:06:12.138 this game, I felt like defensively, they had two clear 0:06:12.217 --> 0:06:15.177 concise goals. Keep him in the pocket, and we're going 0:06:15.258 --> 0:06:17.898 to play man to man coverage and to your point 0:06:17.977 --> 0:06:20.418 your side of the street a little bit. A big 0:06:20.457 --> 0:06:23.177 part of that man to man coverage to me was 0:06:23.178 --> 0:06:25.738 that they no longer have Stefan Diggs, so there's not 0:06:26.018 --> 0:06:29.138 this trump card that Buffalo can throw at you where 0:06:29.138 --> 0:06:32.498 they have this receiver that is uncoverable in man to 0:06:32.577 --> 0:06:37.297 man one on one. And so the Patriots, I felt like, said, well, 0:06:37.938 --> 0:06:40.778 if we take Allen's skill players out of the game 0:06:40.977 --> 0:06:44.218 by playing type man to man coverage and sort of 0:06:44.258 --> 0:06:47.658 bait him into playing hero ball from the pocket, then 0:06:47.698 --> 0:06:49.818 we have a much better chance than if we back 0:06:49.857 --> 0:06:51.577 off and we play this off zone and we let 0:06:51.618 --> 0:06:54.058 him pick us apart underneath. And that's what they went 0:06:54.097 --> 0:06:55.978 out there and did, and I thought the defense really 0:06:56.058 --> 0:06:59.298 executed the game plan flawlessly in the passing game. There 0:06:59.337 --> 0:07:02.017 was obviously issues in the run game, but seventeen points 0:07:02.058 --> 0:07:04.938 allowed in one hundred and fifty six passing yards for 0:07:05.018 --> 0:07:07.777 Josh Allen. I'll take that any day of the week, 0:07:07.818 --> 0:07:10.498 Like that's a game that you will absolutely take against 0:07:10.538 --> 0:07:11.258 that quarterback. 0:07:11.498 --> 0:07:14.498 Yeah, I think this is remember the uh is the 0:07:14.578 --> 0:07:18.018 dress blue and black or white and gold? Remember that 0:07:18.098 --> 0:07:19.938 thing from the internet. I think this game is kind 0:07:19.938 --> 0:07:22.178 of that with the coaching and in reality it's both. 0:07:22.218 --> 0:07:24.338 But everybody's gonna fall on one side of the street. 0:07:24.578 --> 0:07:27.018 I agree with everything you said from the game plan side, 0:07:27.018 --> 0:07:28.857 and this is we didn't disagree on it. We were 0:07:28.898 --> 0:07:31.098 just focused on different things. I agree with you hundred 0:07:31.098 --> 0:07:31.417 percent on. 0:07:31.418 --> 0:07:32.538 The game plan side. 0:07:32.618 --> 0:07:34.698 I thought they came in with a good plan offensively 0:07:34.778 --> 0:07:37.938 and defensively. Offensively, as the game went on, it maybe didn't. 0:07:37.938 --> 0:07:40.098 They didn't adapt as well as they could have. Defensively, 0:07:40.138 --> 0:07:43.057 I think they did. It helped that the Bills just 0:07:43.098 --> 0:07:45.498 refused to run the ball, which is hilarious. Let's not 0:07:45.498 --> 0:07:48.098 give Sean McDermott too much credit here, But I thought 0:07:48.098 --> 0:07:50.018 they came in with a good plan. I thought the 0:07:50.058 --> 0:07:52.137 team looked prepared. The team came in with that energy. 0:07:52.178 --> 0:07:54.858 The team came in ready to go, which coming off 0:07:54.857 --> 0:07:57.658 that Cardinals game was night and day, so the preparation 0:07:57.818 --> 0:07:59.338 the week leading up to it. I think the coaching 0:07:59.338 --> 0:08:01.058 staff deserves a ton of credit for the plan they 0:08:01.058 --> 0:08:04.818 put together. The flip side is the game management stuff 0:08:04.818 --> 0:08:07.778 still needs work. Some of the punt non punt decisions. 0:08:08.058 --> 0:08:11.258 I thought they missed a good shot at challenging a play, 0:08:12.218 --> 0:08:17.018 some of the clock management that is still where there 0:08:17.138 --> 0:08:19.178 is room to grow. And look, it's good to see 0:08:19.538 --> 0:08:22.258 the game plan stuff, and I'm not discounting any of that. 0:08:22.818 --> 0:08:25.618 I just think that it's weird because I thought the 0:08:25.658 --> 0:08:28.218 most encouraging thing from this game was the coaching in 0:08:28.298 --> 0:08:30.817 terms of the game plan. The least encouraging thing was 0:08:30.857 --> 0:08:32.818 the coaching in terms of the end game management. So 0:08:33.338 --> 0:08:35.298 kind of both sides of the street for them. The 0:08:35.338 --> 0:08:37.618 game management stuff you can learn, you can get better at, 0:08:37.737 --> 0:08:39.257 but there is room to grow there. 0:08:39.698 --> 0:08:40.818 I think that's a fair take. 0:08:40.938 --> 0:08:43.017 I just you just don't care about the game management stuff, 0:08:43.018 --> 0:08:44.218 so you'll out the window. 0:08:44.338 --> 0:08:47.857 I don't because I don't see you for this team 0:08:47.977 --> 0:08:50.618 right now. I'm not sure what it matters, like the 0:08:50.658 --> 0:08:52.938 most important thing for this team right but it's. 0:08:52.778 --> 0:08:55.378 Not about right now. Again, it's about that projection. At 0:08:55.418 --> 0:08:57.178 a certain point, they're gonna have to get better at that. 0:08:57.498 --> 0:08:59.338 Yeah, but you can develop that skill. 0:08:59.418 --> 0:09:02.497 I just it's the most important. You've seen them develop 0:09:02.538 --> 0:09:04.018 it over the course of this year. 0:09:04.298 --> 0:09:06.658 No, but the most important thing to me right now 0:09:06.737 --> 0:09:09.298 is winning during the week, Like, can you win Monday 0:09:09.298 --> 0:09:09.857 through Saturday? 0:09:09.938 --> 0:09:11.658 I think the most important thing is winning on Sunday, 0:09:11.698 --> 0:09:13.338 and you do that by winning during the week. 0:09:13.418 --> 0:09:15.418 But yeah, you can't just say you do it. 0:09:15.497 --> 0:09:17.178 I hate, Well, we had a good week of practice 0:09:17.178 --> 0:09:19.578 and we lost so well, Like, no, there is ways 0:09:19.617 --> 0:09:21.258 they can be better during the game too. 0:09:21.418 --> 0:09:24.177 Yeah, I don't disagree with that. I just I think 0:09:24.218 --> 0:09:28.178 as a three win rebuilding operation, the most important thing 0:09:28.298 --> 0:09:31.657 is proving that you can put together game plan, practice 0:09:31.698 --> 0:09:33.818 it during the week, take it from the classroom to 0:09:33.857 --> 0:09:36.418 the practice field to the game field, and go out 0:09:36.418 --> 0:09:38.857 there and play a competitive product of football. Like if 0:09:38.898 --> 0:09:40.898 you want to sit here and nitpick that they punted, 0:09:41.178 --> 0:09:43.538 you know, the fourth down punt in the fourth quarter 0:09:43.617 --> 0:09:46.658 that everybody's going crazy about, then sure, like I understand 0:09:46.658 --> 0:09:50.657 that that's you know, it was not an aggressive decision, right, 0:09:50.698 --> 0:09:54.537 that was for a lot of people. I would say 0:09:54.578 --> 0:09:57.338 that decision to punt there was to keep the game close, 0:09:57.538 --> 0:09:59.818 so that on the scoreboard, they weren't getting blown out 0:09:59.818 --> 0:10:03.298 by seventeen points. And maybe that's true, but I just 0:10:03.778 --> 0:10:06.458 again what I come back to with this coaching staff 0:10:06.857 --> 0:10:11.177 is I am far more concerned with Monday through Saturday 0:10:11.418 --> 0:10:14.617 with this team right now. Can you go out there 0:10:15.218 --> 0:10:18.458 and know what you need to do? You know, it's 0:10:18.497 --> 0:10:20.938 one of those things with Bill where he would you know, 0:10:20.977 --> 0:10:23.377 always get up in front of the team and he 0:10:23.418 --> 0:10:26.618 would have like three things, four things for us to 0:10:26.658 --> 0:10:29.418 win this game. We absolutely need to check these four 0:10:29.458 --> 0:10:32.737 boxes right. And I'm not talking about like the catch 0:10:32.818 --> 0:10:35.098 alls like don't turn the ball over, and like those 0:10:35.137 --> 0:10:36.898 are all every week. You don't want to turn the 0:10:36.938 --> 0:10:39.258 ball over and you don't want to beat yourself. But 0:10:39.617 --> 0:10:42.737 I'm talking more about you know, really minutia, exs and no's, 0:10:42.857 --> 0:10:46.018 Like we are going to keep Josh Allen contained in 0:10:46.058 --> 0:10:49.218 the pocket, and this is exactly how we're gonna do it. 0:10:49.458 --> 0:10:52.458 Whether it's a four man rush, mush rush, or it's 0:10:52.737 --> 0:10:55.098 a rush one guy gets to rush because we're gonna 0:10:55.098 --> 0:10:57.298 funnel him out of the pocket this way, and then 0:10:57.298 --> 0:10:59.498 we're gonna have a spy that's gonna close the pocket, 0:10:59.497 --> 0:11:01.058 which is what they did a lot in this game 0:11:01.098 --> 0:11:04.058 with Josh Allen was you know, using guys like Brandon 0:11:04.098 --> 0:11:07.697 Schooler as a spy on the quarterback and then allowing 0:11:07.778 --> 0:11:11.418 like one rusher to tee off right and the other 0:11:11.458 --> 0:11:15.058 three guys their job or their responsibility was to try 0:11:15.058 --> 0:11:17.698 to push him in a certain direction, and then Schooler 0:11:17.778 --> 0:11:20.417 came wrapped around in that direction and sort of closed 0:11:20.458 --> 0:11:24.538 the pocket. Like the coordination of that rush plan don't 0:11:24.578 --> 0:11:27.098 look like to me with this pass rush, I know 0:11:27.137 --> 0:11:28.657 a lot of people are making a big deal to 0:11:28.737 --> 0:11:31.498 sort of out a key on Whitez, like let's slide 0:11:31.578 --> 0:11:33.898 here that he hasn't been as productive, Like to me, 0:11:34.137 --> 0:11:36.657 this is not this was not about that, Like you're 0:11:36.698 --> 0:11:40.857 not grading this game looking at quarterback pressures in sack numbers. 0:11:40.938 --> 0:11:45.098 Like to me, they went into this game defensively and 0:11:45.137 --> 0:11:48.537 they said, we probably aren't gonna sack Josh Allen like 0:11:48.658 --> 0:11:51.218 he's he's probably he's hard. He's hard enough to sack 0:11:51.257 --> 0:11:53.378 as it is because of his mobility and his size. 0:11:53.538 --> 0:11:56.058 They have a good offensive line, they get the ball 0:11:56.098 --> 0:11:59.018 out quickly, and there's the nature of this offense. We're 0:11:59.017 --> 0:12:01.737 not gonna necessarily get after Josh Allen in this game, 0:12:01.938 --> 0:12:03.818 so we're just gonna try to contain them and keep 0:12:03.898 --> 0:12:05.857 him in the pocket and make him meet us from 0:12:05.898 --> 0:12:08.298 the pocket, and then we're gonna take the receivers out. 0:12:08.338 --> 0:12:11.578 And they went out there and they did that offensively. 0:12:11.778 --> 0:12:13.538 It was great to see some of the throws down 0:12:13.538 --> 0:12:15.098 the field. It was great to see a couple of 0:12:15.137 --> 0:12:18.578 design quarterback runs for Drake may So. Yeah, like, do 0:12:18.617 --> 0:12:20.777 you want to you know, the punt, Like you didn't 0:12:20.857 --> 0:12:22.178 like the punt? Okay, like what else? 0:12:22.298 --> 0:12:22.378 Like? 0:12:22.418 --> 0:12:24.258 I guess what else didn't you like about the game 0:12:24.298 --> 0:12:27.938 management stuff? Specifically the punt I didn't love. 0:12:28.377 --> 0:12:29.497 I would have challenged. 0:12:29.538 --> 0:12:31.218 So the third. 0:12:30.898 --> 0:12:35.898 Down, not on the fake punt, drive the drive before 0:12:36.178 --> 0:12:42.218 second quarter incomplete, incomplete. Kendrick Bourne catches a comeback. He's 0:12:42.257 --> 0:12:44.257 like in mid air when he catches the defender drives 0:12:44.298 --> 0:12:46.298 him back. They marked him a full yard short, and 0:12:46.338 --> 0:12:47.977 I know those players are tough to overturn, but it's 0:12:47.977 --> 0:12:50.058 the first half out of challenge. I think there's a 0:12:50.098 --> 0:12:51.818 chance he got it. Even if he didn't get it, 0:12:51.857 --> 0:12:54.698 you're inches away. Maybe they're more inclined to go for it. 0:12:54.778 --> 0:12:58.218 We know they had that fake punt I didn't love 0:12:58.298 --> 0:13:00.538 just as a whole, and it burned them one time 0:13:00.578 --> 0:13:03.618 burned them. So after the fake punt, they have to 0:13:03.617 --> 0:13:05.778 call time out instead of taking delay because they didn't 0:13:05.778 --> 0:13:08.698 get the special teams off and the offense on on time. 0:13:09.257 --> 0:13:11.617 And it's the second week in row something like that's happened. 0:13:11.617 --> 0:13:14.258 They had the twenty nine yard run form Antonio Gibson 0:13:14.298 --> 0:13:16.218 last week and have to call time out immediately after 0:13:16.218 --> 0:13:17.737 because they can't get the play in. And it's like, 0:13:18.538 --> 0:13:21.137 when you have these big plays, you want to keep 0:13:21.137 --> 0:13:22.658 the defense on their heels. You want to keep them 0:13:22.658 --> 0:13:25.377 backed up, especially after a fake punt the defense comes 0:13:25.418 --> 0:13:27.178 off the field, I think they're done. They're kind of 0:13:27.218 --> 0:13:29.138 resetting now. They got all of a sudden run back on. 0:13:29.617 --> 0:13:31.378 When you call time out, you sort of lose some 0:13:31.418 --> 0:13:33.617 of that momentum. And there were other instances in the game. 0:13:33.698 --> 0:13:36.018 That was the most glaring, but there were other instances 0:13:36.017 --> 0:13:38.738 in the game where they're either calling timeouts or they're 0:13:38.778 --> 0:13:41.058 getting to the line with six seven seconds on the 0:13:41.058 --> 0:13:42.578 play clock, Like you can't. 0:13:42.298 --> 0:13:42.898 Be doing that. 0:13:43.857 --> 0:13:45.658 It was almost Mike McDaniel. 0:13:45.298 --> 0:13:48.058 Esku so I you just had to take a shot 0:13:48.058 --> 0:13:48.257 at me. 0:13:48.377 --> 0:13:50.938 I mean, had that game in Buffalo, that playoff game, 0:13:51.017 --> 0:13:53.378 was that was so bad? How does he not figure 0:13:53.377 --> 0:13:56.098 out the entire game? Just called the play earlier and 0:13:56.178 --> 0:13:58.897 it's anyway you got to be able to get the 0:13:58.898 --> 0:14:01.818 play calls on time. Like this is basic operational stuff 0:14:01.898 --> 0:14:05.137 that Do they win the game? I don't know, but 0:14:05.178 --> 0:14:08.098 it will help them be competitive and it cuts down 0:14:08.098 --> 0:14:08.537 on some of. 0:14:08.497 --> 0:14:11.898 That margin forrer. I like, I don't know, do they 0:14:11.898 --> 0:14:14.098 win the game? Maybe maybe not? Certainly the one after 0:14:14.137 --> 0:14:16.138 the fake punt you get the defense really back on 0:14:16.178 --> 0:14:17.218 their heels. That helps. 0:14:17.257 --> 0:14:19.938 Instead they punt again three plays later, so the fake 0:14:20.018 --> 0:14:21.138 he kind of burned for nothing. 0:14:21.818 --> 0:14:25.458 Okay, I hear what you're saying. I agree with a 0:14:25.498 --> 0:14:28.578 lot of what you're saying. I guess I just to me, 0:14:29.018 --> 0:14:32.618 you know, the stuff that you're talking about is I 0:14:32.658 --> 0:14:34.778 will be more concerned about that kind of stuff like 0:14:34.818 --> 0:14:36.938 a year or two from now when they are actually 0:14:37.018 --> 0:14:38.098 supposed to be competing. 0:14:38.098 --> 0:14:40.498 Okay, but why can't why can't they work on the 0:14:40.578 --> 0:14:42.538 during the week stuff and the in game stuff. Why 0:14:42.618 --> 0:14:45.458 can't we be talking about both improving simultaneously. It's not like, 0:14:45.498 --> 0:14:47.578 all right, we're good where we are during the week, Now, 0:14:47.658 --> 0:14:50.098 let's figure out this game day stuff. That's not how 0:14:50.138 --> 0:14:52.258 it should be they should be working on improving the 0:14:52.418 --> 0:14:54.057 entire operation at once. 0:14:53.978 --> 0:14:56.778 Because I don't think that that stuff that you're talking about. 0:14:57.338 --> 0:15:00.578 If we had to like split up winning into like 0:15:00.618 --> 0:15:04.498 a pie of like percentages, I think that your stuff 0:15:04.538 --> 0:15:07.938 is probably about twenty to twenty five percent more, and 0:15:08.098 --> 0:15:09.218 my stuff is seventy five. 0:15:09.058 --> 0:15:12.498 Bits more than that, especially once you go up against 0:15:12.898 --> 0:15:14.898 maybe in a game like that where they're so outmatched 0:15:14.898 --> 0:15:19.018 talent wise, once the roster is more even, it's gonna 0:15:19.018 --> 0:15:21.498 matter a lot more than that. We saw that here. 0:15:21.498 --> 0:15:23.898 For years there were good teams that the Patriots would play. 0:15:23.938 --> 0:15:27.178 The Patriots were beating teams before the team even got 0:15:27.178 --> 0:15:30.417 off the bus like that. That's that's what it was. 0:15:30.538 --> 0:15:32.778 Because they were more tightened up, and other teams would 0:15:32.778 --> 0:15:35.178 get in a panic about playing the Patriots and they 0:15:35.178 --> 0:15:38.018 would stumble over the details, the end game details. No, 0:15:38.058 --> 0:15:39.898 I'm sorry, that's stuff. I'm not gonna let you say 0:15:39.898 --> 0:15:42.258 that stuff doesn't decide football games. It absolutely does. 0:15:42.378 --> 0:15:44.778 It decides a lot of one score games. I agree 0:15:44.818 --> 0:15:45.738 with you, but I don't. 0:15:45.578 --> 0:15:47.978 Necessarily most most games in the NFL at one score games. 0:15:48.058 --> 0:15:49.858 I just don't think it matters as much as you do. 0:15:49.938 --> 0:15:52.698 I don't. I don't. I think it matters. I think 0:15:52.698 --> 0:15:53.698 it's a part of the game. 0:15:54.138 --> 0:15:56.058 I'm not Shanahan and all the Super Bowl rings how 0:15:56.138 --> 0:15:56.618 much it matters. 0:15:56.698 --> 0:15:58.778 Oh, come on, man, he's been like two bounces from 0:15:58.778 --> 0:16:02.938 the super Bowl, Like if he was a little better 0:16:02.978 --> 0:16:07.657 on the market games, Jimmy hits Emmanuel decision was Jimmy 0:16:07.658 --> 0:16:10.537 Garoppolo throw. So it's it's his problem, his fault that 0:16:10.578 --> 0:16:12.858 he missed a wide open receiver for a decision. 0:16:14.658 --> 0:16:19.218 You know what, Jimmy Garoppolo is dress It matters. It 0:16:19.738 --> 0:16:23.138 absolutely decides games. And I'd rather them not wait to 0:16:23.178 --> 0:16:23.938 get better at it. 0:16:24.298 --> 0:16:26.698 I'm not asking them to wait to get better at it. 0:16:26.858 --> 0:16:29.657 I just think that it's more important, especially coming off 0:16:29.658 --> 0:16:32.458 a game like they play in Arizona, where I just 0:16:32.498 --> 0:16:35.458 thought their entire approach was off. No, I mean even 0:16:35.538 --> 0:16:39.098 much better. Even John Medison on Tuesday that their effort 0:16:39.138 --> 0:16:40.177 in Arizona wasn't good. 0:16:40.258 --> 0:16:40.458 Yeah. 0:16:40.538 --> 0:16:42.218 No, And I'm giving them credit. They were much better 0:16:42.258 --> 0:16:44.458 in that regard. But this stuff is part of the 0:16:44.458 --> 0:16:46.177 game too. This stuff is part of coaching too. I 0:16:46.218 --> 0:16:47.537 think it's as much of the game. 0:16:47.618 --> 0:16:48.058 Day stuff. 0:16:48.098 --> 0:16:49.738 To me, is as much a part you can come 0:16:49.738 --> 0:16:52.018 in with a great plan. If you can't get play 0:16:52.058 --> 0:16:55.138 calls in and you're committing bad penalties and you're burning 0:16:55.178 --> 0:16:57.018 timeouts you don't need to burn, and letting the clock 0:16:57.098 --> 0:16:59.298 run when it doesn't need to run, you're still gonna 0:16:59.338 --> 0:17:01.538 even with a good plan, you're still going to have 0:17:01.538 --> 0:17:03.458 a hard time winning games in this league because so 0:17:03.538 --> 0:17:04.978 many of these games are so close. 0:17:05.858 --> 0:17:07.657 All right, Well, we're not going to agree to this 0:17:07.938 --> 0:17:10.737 on this one, so I'm gonna move it along. But 0:17:10.778 --> 0:17:13.778 I do the one big thing that I definitely look 0:17:13.818 --> 0:17:16.858 at now as we come off of this Bills game. 0:17:17.338 --> 0:17:19.538 It's cool to do it once, and we're saying do 0:17:19.538 --> 0:17:21.698 it once they even win the freaking game. It's cool 0:17:21.818 --> 0:17:25.538 to come, you know and watch this film and feel 0:17:25.658 --> 0:17:27.778 some pretty good about some of the things that they did, 0:17:28.138 --> 0:17:30.618 you know, in terms of the past defense and the 0:17:30.658 --> 0:17:33.818 start on offense. But the two you know kind of 0:17:33.858 --> 0:17:36.218 things that come from this now one you got to 0:17:36.258 --> 0:17:38.618 stack it right, like you gotta do it again against 0:17:38.618 --> 0:17:40.578 the Chargers on Saturday. If they just if this is 0:17:40.658 --> 0:17:43.018 just a one off performance by this group down the 0:17:43.018 --> 0:17:45.898 stretch here and we don't see that team on Saturday 0:17:45.938 --> 0:17:48.298 against the Chargers, I would throw it all out. I 0:17:48.298 --> 0:17:50.578 would say all the flowers I gave you last week, 0:17:50.618 --> 0:17:52.938 you just set them on fire, right, Like, I will 0:17:52.978 --> 0:17:55.338 not care about this Bills game if they go out 0:17:55.378 --> 0:17:58.218 and play like they did in Arizona on Saturday against 0:17:58.218 --> 0:18:00.498 the Chargers. Now, if they play the same way they 0:18:00.538 --> 0:18:03.178 didn't against Buffalo, and maybe you know, to your point, 0:18:03.258 --> 0:18:05.058 some of those in game things go their way, or 0:18:05.058 --> 0:18:07.538 they're clean those things up, or some of the bounces 0:18:07.658 --> 0:18:09.458 just are better this week, and they actually win this 0:18:09.538 --> 0:18:12.258 game against the Chargers, then I would feel like, Okay, 0:18:12.338 --> 0:18:15.657 we're starting to stack here a little bit. Now. With 0:18:15.738 --> 0:18:18.578 that being said, Week eighteen against the Bills, I'm throwing 0:18:18.618 --> 0:18:20.898 out I don't think that game is gonna matter for Buffalo. 0:18:21.218 --> 0:18:23.458 I wouldn't be surprised if we see Mitch Trubisky in 0:18:23.498 --> 0:18:23.818 that game. 0:18:23.898 --> 0:18:27.738 I'm not throwing that out because of what you just said. 0:18:27.818 --> 0:18:32.578 Like you date, if they're not competitive against the Bill's team, 0:18:32.618 --> 0:18:35.218 that's half assing it. That's a really bad sign. 0:18:35.578 --> 0:18:38.218 Yeah, I agree with that. I just I guess I 0:18:38.218 --> 0:18:41.338 don't know this is this goes into like a you know, 0:18:42.298 --> 0:18:45.418 personnel level versus player level, Like the players aren't gonna 0:18:45.418 --> 0:18:47.378 go out there and tank for the team. Right, They're 0:18:47.378 --> 0:18:49.498 not gonna do that. But I do think that there's 0:18:49.538 --> 0:18:52.818 an element in week eighteen of thinking about that. I do. 0:18:53.338 --> 0:18:58.218 I think for no I again, the game management stuff, 0:18:58.218 --> 0:19:00.618 the operational stuff, like you need to prove you can 0:19:00.658 --> 0:19:03.818 be a tight operation, and it doesn't matter who the 0:19:03.858 --> 0:19:04.578 opponent is. 0:19:04.498 --> 0:19:06.818 Like, so you don't care that if they win a 0:19:06.858 --> 0:19:09.258 meaningless game against the Bills in Week eighteen, they could 0:19:09.298 --> 0:19:11.218 go from like the second overall pick to like the 0:19:11.258 --> 0:19:13.618 eighth overall pick. I think winning is more important. You 0:19:13.658 --> 0:19:16.698 think winning one game against mister Bisky is more important? Yep. 0:19:16.898 --> 0:19:20.218 I think for the you don't want losing to become 0:19:20.258 --> 0:19:22.178 habitual for the culture of it. They're also not going 0:19:22.218 --> 0:19:23.898 to fall to eight. I think that if they lose, 0:19:24.098 --> 0:19:26.338 like if they lose one of the next two, the 0:19:26.418 --> 0:19:27.937 Charge are a good team. I don't think they can 0:19:27.978 --> 0:19:28.938 fall past like six. 0:19:29.738 --> 0:19:31.818 Well, there's but I don't know what all the tie 0:19:31.818 --> 0:19:33.818 breakers are because we don't know, like this we're gonna have. 0:19:33.938 --> 0:19:36.618 We're gonna have the tie breakers because their strength schedules 0:19:36.618 --> 0:19:37.898 so blow everybody else's. 0:19:38.018 --> 0:19:42.138 Well, there's a bunch of four win teams in three 0:19:42.138 --> 0:19:43.738 win teams in the league. A bunch of them play 0:19:43.738 --> 0:19:47.098 each other though, Okay, I mean even if it's two 0:19:47.098 --> 0:19:48.778 to six or two to seven, I think that that. 0:19:48.978 --> 0:19:51.538 I also on this draft especially, I think that's bad. 0:19:52.218 --> 0:19:54.538 I'm a proponent of them trading down so you don't 0:19:54.538 --> 0:19:55.778 get the Hall, but you still end up with the 0:19:55.818 --> 0:19:58.618 same player. I don't know, I'd like to see them. 0:19:58.938 --> 0:20:00.178 I don't think they're gonna tank. 0:20:00.738 --> 0:20:02.778 Because they're not gonna purposely. 0:20:02.578 --> 0:20:05.298 Right, And I just think that operational stuff, and I 0:20:05.338 --> 0:20:08.778 think like ending the season on a high note is important. 0:20:09.058 --> 0:20:10.858 I know, like what to do for the Jets last year, 0:20:10.858 --> 0:20:13.218 but that's the Jets. Yeah, you know, like I think 0:20:13.298 --> 0:20:14.978 ending the season on a high note is important. Yeah, 0:20:15.058 --> 0:20:16.978 Jet winning one game was not gonna help the Jets. 0:20:16.978 --> 0:20:18.738 The Jets are so far beyond one game. 0:20:19.018 --> 0:20:22.578 Okay, So that's one. They gotta stack it together against 0:20:22.618 --> 0:20:26.778 the Chargers. The second thing is we're we're still seeing 0:20:26.818 --> 0:20:28.378 a lot of the same mistakes. And I know you 0:20:28.458 --> 0:20:31.018 kind of already broke down the coaching at and that 0:20:31.818 --> 0:20:35.458 this isn't necessarily not coaching, it's just in terms of 0:20:35.458 --> 0:20:38.498 the execution. The run defense is still a major problem 0:20:38.498 --> 0:20:41.098 with this team at this point, they're probably not going 0:20:41.178 --> 0:20:43.858 to fix the run defense until next year and hopefully 0:20:43.938 --> 0:20:47.498 you get a Christian Barmore, Juwan Bentley. You know, maybe 0:20:47.538 --> 0:20:49.658 you draft a few guys to sign a few guys 0:20:49.698 --> 0:20:53.458 on defense that are stouter against the run. Their run 0:20:53.538 --> 0:20:57.098 defense is, in my mind, other than the offensive line, 0:20:57.178 --> 0:20:59.978 the worst part of the team. And in terms of 0:21:00.018 --> 0:21:05.218 like the offensive line, they're so talent depleted on the 0:21:05.258 --> 0:21:08.298 offensive line that I almost feel more disappointed in the 0:21:08.378 --> 0:21:10.938 run defense than I do in the line play because 0:21:11.098 --> 0:21:15.658 you're not expecting much out of your starting tackles being 0:21:15.658 --> 0:21:18.058 Trey Jacobs and Vederian low right, Like, you're just not 0:21:18.458 --> 0:21:21.738 expecting that group to be great defensively. I still think 0:21:21.778 --> 0:21:25.298 they have enough good players on defense to not be 0:21:25.938 --> 0:21:29.417 a horrible run defense, and at times they are a 0:21:29.498 --> 0:21:32.978 horrible run defense. And it's the big plays, it's the 0:21:32.978 --> 0:21:35.538 forty six yard touchdown by James Cook, but it's also 0:21:35.578 --> 0:21:39.218 these little runs where you know, this game, they missed 0:21:39.218 --> 0:21:42.218 eight tackles against the run. Four of them I counted 0:21:42.258 --> 0:21:45.298 could have been TFLs, and they're just they're missing these 0:21:45.338 --> 0:21:47.938 tackles and not only could they have been TFLs, but 0:21:47.978 --> 0:21:50.458 then they don't rally to the football, so like the 0:21:50.538 --> 0:21:53.618 ball carrier ends up squeaking out for four or five yards. 0:21:53.858 --> 0:21:56.378 It's not even just that they missed the play behind 0:21:56.418 --> 0:21:58.778 the line of scrimmage. They then don't make the play 0:21:58.978 --> 0:22:01.058 at the line of scrimmage either, like you see other 0:22:01.098 --> 0:22:03.978 teams when they play the run. It's okay, we whiffed 0:22:03.978 --> 0:22:06.298 on a TfL, but then we have three hats that 0:22:06.338 --> 0:22:08.538 are just like flying to the ball. So no, we 0:22:08.578 --> 0:22:10.538 didn't get the two yard loss, but we got a 0:22:10.538 --> 0:22:13.778 no gain out of this play because somebody contacted the 0:22:13.778 --> 0:22:16.418 ball behind the line of scrimmage and slowed the ball down. 0:22:16.978 --> 0:22:19.098 With the Patriots, they can slow the ball down behind 0:22:19.098 --> 0:22:21.458 the line of scrimmage and then the guy still gains 0:22:21.498 --> 0:22:24.458 five yards, and those body blows just add up over 0:22:24.498 --> 0:22:27.058 the course of time. That to me has been the 0:22:27.058 --> 0:22:30.538 most disappointing part about their run defense. Maybe the physical 0:22:30.738 --> 0:22:32.578 at the point of attack and that type of stuff 0:22:32.618 --> 0:22:35.978 is personnel, uh, But in terms of like their just 0:22:36.138 --> 0:22:39.258 effort and the fact that they just don't rally or 0:22:39.298 --> 0:22:43.498 bring hats to the football consistently, uh to to bottle 0:22:43.578 --> 0:22:46.498 up runners, yea, it's a lot of one on one 0:22:47.138 --> 0:22:49.578 in space, Like if that guy doesn't make the tackle, 0:22:49.658 --> 0:22:52.058 then nobody might make the tackle any sort of thing. 0:22:52.538 --> 0:22:55.178 Uh that It's been probably the most frustrating part of 0:22:55.218 --> 0:22:57.298 the team for me personally to watch on film every 0:22:57.378 --> 0:23:02.298 Monday is their fits, their their their inability to play blocks, 0:23:02.578 --> 0:23:06.138 their angles, and like their ability to leverage or you know, 0:23:06.458 --> 0:23:09.218 push runners back into the teeth of the defense, to 0:23:09.298 --> 0:23:12.938 the numbers of the defense. They just do not play fundamentally, just. 0:23:12.858 --> 0:23:15.218 The tackling, just the number of times that even when 0:23:15.258 --> 0:23:16.697 they are in the right place at the right time, 0:23:16.778 --> 0:23:18.818 they can't bring the guy down. A lot of run 0:23:19.618 --> 0:23:21.498 You probably hate this. I don't know how you feel 0:23:21.498 --> 0:23:23.618 about this cliche. I do believe in it to an extent. 0:23:23.698 --> 0:23:27.578 A lot of run defenses just want to It's just effort. No, 0:23:27.858 --> 0:23:31.538 it would just being bigger, meaner, stronger than the guy 0:23:31.578 --> 0:23:34.658 opposite you who wants it more. And when you can't 0:23:34.698 --> 0:23:36.938 stop the run, it kind of reflects that way. Also, 0:23:36.978 --> 0:23:38.658 just backtrack real quick, because I see the chat is 0:23:38.698 --> 0:23:41.858 pissed to make. I'm not saying that, oh, the Patriots 0:23:42.018 --> 0:23:44.538 help their draft stock by winning that last game. I'm saying, 0:23:44.698 --> 0:23:48.578 don't expect anybody in that building to say no, we 0:23:48.618 --> 0:23:50.218 need to go out and lose for the draft. I'm 0:23:50.258 --> 0:23:53.418 saying internally, they are not looked. They should not be 0:23:53.498 --> 0:23:55.378 looking at that as we want to lose this game 0:23:55.418 --> 0:23:57.258 for the draft. They should be wanting to pull out 0:23:57.258 --> 0:23:59.618 every win they can. Obviously, yes, it's better for the 0:23:59.698 --> 0:24:03.778 draft positioning if they lose. I ideally, you play a close, 0:24:03.858 --> 0:24:05.978 competitive game and you lose, so you still have something 0:24:05.978 --> 0:24:08.178 to build on. But people are saying, I just want 0:24:08.178 --> 0:24:09.658 to be clear, I'm not saying it's better for them 0:24:10.138 --> 0:24:12.657 in the draft if they win that game. It's obviously not. 0:24:12.778 --> 0:24:15.338 I just don't expect them to. They're not gonna be 0:24:15.538 --> 0:24:17.538 going into that game thinking about the draft. Norse should 0:24:17.538 --> 0:24:21.218 they they're at the. 0:24:20.578 --> 0:24:23.578 Yeah, and you know, yeah exactly. Just to clear that up. 0:24:24.538 --> 0:24:26.258 I love it when the check gets on you, though, 0:24:26.378 --> 0:24:31.098 I do like it. But yeah, I'm not suggesting that 0:24:31.138 --> 0:24:33.098 they're going to go out there and take by any 0:24:33.138 --> 0:24:35.898 means like, that's not That's not what any team. I 0:24:35.938 --> 0:24:39.938 truly believe, that's not what any team does. Now. Executives 0:24:39.938 --> 0:24:41.898 and did owners maybe from. 0:24:41.778 --> 0:24:42.778 The GM level up. 0:24:42.978 --> 0:24:46.098 Yeah, and and that's it. It's not an individual game. Hey, 0:24:46.098 --> 0:24:47.138 we need to go lose this thing. 0:24:47.218 --> 0:24:50.138 It's the hey, like, we're not going to invest a 0:24:50.138 --> 0:24:51.898 ton in this roster because we need to reset. We 0:24:51.938 --> 0:24:53.938 need the draft picks, we need to reset the cap, 0:24:54.058 --> 0:24:54.618 like we're. 0:24:54.458 --> 0:24:57.698 Going to go into this season. You don't get, don't 0:24:58.258 --> 0:24:58.698 You don't get. 0:24:58.698 --> 0:25:00.658 Maybe at the trade deadline you decide like, hey, we're 0:25:00.658 --> 0:25:02.698 going to sell off guys. That's more so in other 0:25:02.738 --> 0:25:05.018 sports than football. You don't get to Week eighteen and. 0:25:05.018 --> 0:25:07.058 Say we need to lose this game. Lose this Get's 0:25:07.098 --> 0:25:10.258 not how it works. Yeah, No, I just I think 0:25:10.298 --> 0:25:12.658 about the draft pick because I don't coach or play 0:25:12.778 --> 0:25:14.938 in the game. So I'm going to consider and. 0:25:14.898 --> 0:25:16.498 Look who you're talking to about, don't think of the 0:25:16.538 --> 0:25:18.738 draft pick. Right that Jets game last year, I was 0:25:18.778 --> 0:25:21.098 up there. I'm picturing Drake May the whole time. I'm 0:25:21.098 --> 0:25:21.658 not gonna lie. 0:25:21.858 --> 0:25:25.898 Yeah, So the other element of this Bills game just 0:25:25.898 --> 0:25:27.298 to go back there and then we'll do three up, 0:25:27.298 --> 0:25:29.458 three down. I know everybody wants us to talk off season, 0:25:29.578 --> 0:25:33.058 so we'll get to in the second. But the other 0:25:33.098 --> 0:25:37.578 element of this game that I have found myself being 0:25:38.338 --> 0:25:43.657 like lowercase C concerned about, is there. I used this 0:25:43.698 --> 0:25:47.298 take earlier for the Celtics lowercase c' I'm not big 0:25:47.338 --> 0:25:50.338 C yet, Like I'm not like really worried about it yet. 0:25:50.418 --> 0:25:53.098 But I'm just this take or the Celtics has nothing 0:25:53.098 --> 0:25:55.338 to do with Celtics lower case W or upper case W. 0:25:55.338 --> 0:25:59.098 Worried about Celtics lowercase like the smallest case me too. 0:25:59.338 --> 0:25:59.538 Yeah. 0:26:00.818 --> 0:26:04.378 In terms of the Patriots though back to the show, 0:26:05.378 --> 0:26:11.858 this is a lowercase W worried about Drake May in 0:26:11.898 --> 0:26:15.698 the red zone and just their red zone offense in general. Now, 0:26:16.178 --> 0:26:19.418 the Drake May in the red zone angle probably improves 0:26:19.858 --> 0:26:23.417 when he has better supporting cast, right, like that, that 0:26:23.538 --> 0:26:28.298 element of it, I will totally allow for the The 0:26:28.298 --> 0:26:32.618 The concern that I have with it is two things. One, 0:26:32.738 --> 0:26:35.578 there was some of this at North Carolina. They had 0:26:35.578 --> 0:26:39.538 some issues finishing drives at North Carolina too, And he 0:26:39.658 --> 0:26:44.258 had some issues with blit zero turnovers in the red 0:26:44.338 --> 0:26:47.578 zone like that kind of stuff. So this is probably 0:26:48.658 --> 0:26:53.178 in reality the more important development for him. Then. Like 0:26:53.218 --> 0:26:55.378 people making the big deal out of the footwork and 0:26:55.418 --> 0:26:58.258 like all that stuff, I thought I always thought, you 0:26:58.298 --> 0:27:01.538 know that, I always thought that was kind of way overblown. 0:27:02.178 --> 0:27:04.698 This type of stuff, though I don't think is as 0:27:04.738 --> 0:27:09.018 overblown with him in college to the pros. And it 0:27:09.098 --> 0:27:12.698 doesn't help that he doesn't have the most creative play caller. 0:27:13.018 --> 0:27:15.338 When you get down there, you need to be creative. 0:27:15.738 --> 0:27:17.938 I'm not talking about like double passes and stuff. I'm 0:27:17.978 --> 0:27:21.178 just talking about scheme and motion and stretching the field 0:27:21.178 --> 0:27:23.538 horizontally and knowing how to use the space of the 0:27:23.538 --> 0:27:26.738 field and all that kind of stuff. But you also 0:27:26.858 --> 0:27:29.498 have to look at it and you know, it took 0:27:29.538 --> 0:27:33.338 them ten plays to score from the eight yard line 0:27:33.938 --> 0:27:36.658 at the end of the game, and the Bills are 0:27:36.698 --> 0:27:40.738 just sending the house and they just can't get a 0:27:40.778 --> 0:27:44.498 cover zero beater. Now he had one on the play 0:27:44.538 --> 0:27:47.738 that he dropped the snap, which was the one time 0:27:48.058 --> 0:27:50.698 where I thought that he was a little shaky in 0:27:50.738 --> 0:27:53.778 this game. And so you have that situation at the 0:27:53.858 --> 0:27:56.058 end of the game where if they score before the 0:27:56.058 --> 0:27:58.858 two minute warning, like now they're they're in business with 0:27:59.298 --> 0:28:02.698 three timeouts and the two minute warning down by three, 0:28:02.858 --> 0:28:04.738 at least, you're putting the Bills in a position where 0:28:04.738 --> 0:28:06.938 they have to put a drive together to close out 0:28:06.938 --> 0:28:09.058 the game. And it's not just one first down and 0:28:09.098 --> 0:28:13.658 the game is over. The interception I don't. There's a 0:28:13.698 --> 0:28:18.658 lot of fault on that interception. The route combination obviously, 0:28:18.938 --> 0:28:22.178 you know, Kendrick Bourne and Austin Hooper like that. It 0:28:22.498 --> 0:28:27.058 was an ugly route combination in terms of the execution 0:28:27.138 --> 0:28:29.378 on that play. Don't mind. The route combination is actually, 0:28:29.618 --> 0:28:31.738 you know, scissors is actually a pretty good red zone 0:28:31.818 --> 0:28:34.498 high red zone play that a lot of teams run, 0:28:34.938 --> 0:28:37.218 but it just wasn't executed great. But the thing that 0:28:37.258 --> 0:28:39.538 I see with Drake in the red zone is that 0:28:39.658 --> 0:28:44.058 he's a big like anticipatory thrower, and he likes to 0:28:44.058 --> 0:28:46.858 see the space in the defense, right like, here are 0:28:46.898 --> 0:28:49.658 the voids in what I'm looking at, and I'm just 0:28:49.698 --> 0:28:54.218 gonna anticipate that Austin Hooper is going to run into 0:28:54.258 --> 0:28:57.938 this void. But the problem is is that a lot 0:28:57.978 --> 0:29:00.658 of things have to go right then from the time 0:29:00.698 --> 0:29:03.578 he releases the ball to the time that the ball 0:29:03.658 --> 0:29:06.618 arrives at the target, you know, like the routes hitting correctly, 0:29:06.938 --> 0:29:09.178 like Austin Hooper reading the play the same way that 0:29:09.218 --> 0:29:12.378 he reads the play, and in the open field between 0:29:12.378 --> 0:29:15.298 the twenties, those types of throws, if he makes that 0:29:15.378 --> 0:29:17.778 exact same throw, that might just be an incomplete pass. 0:29:18.138 --> 0:29:20.738 But because the space is so condensed in the red zone, 0:29:20.978 --> 0:29:23.338 that middle of the field safety, it's a pretty it's 0:29:23.378 --> 0:29:25.658 an easier play for him to get to the sideline 0:29:25.698 --> 0:29:29.938 there and make that play. So it's a lowercase W 0:29:30.258 --> 0:29:32.618 like I'm not I'm not trying to be panicky or 0:29:32.618 --> 0:29:36.018 anything about it just yet. But they've struggled in the 0:29:36.018 --> 0:29:39.138 red zone all's a year long. But also with Drake 0:29:39.258 --> 0:29:42.258 at quarterback, it's probably the one area where they haven't 0:29:42.298 --> 0:29:45.618 shown real improvement with Drake. Like everything else is up, 0:29:45.658 --> 0:29:49.898 like yards points, everything else is up with Drake at quarterback, 0:29:49.978 --> 0:29:52.898 but the one thing that isn't is their red zone efficiency. 0:29:52.938 --> 0:29:55.098 Yeah, I think just talent will fix some of that. 0:29:55.178 --> 0:29:57.538 He'll have more time there. I agree, that's not just 0:29:57.578 --> 0:29:59.738 a Drake may thing. A lot of young quarterbacks like 0:29:59.778 --> 0:30:01.258 the red zone is kind of one of the last 0:30:01.258 --> 0:30:03.338 things to come. Having a better run game would be 0:30:03.338 --> 0:30:05.618 a big way to help him. But if you remember, 0:30:05.618 --> 0:30:07.938 remember I take after the Titans game on Drake May Like, 0:30:08.058 --> 0:30:10.378 he plays with an inner dialogue of fine, I'll do 0:30:10.458 --> 0:30:12.978 it myself. Yeah, I guess I'll have to do it myself. 0:30:13.658 --> 0:30:16.258 He's been better about that the last few weeks. Except 0:30:16.298 --> 0:30:18.578 in the red zone, and he even said after the 0:30:18.618 --> 0:30:20.458 game you could tell he's frustrated. He said, yeah, you know, 0:30:20.458 --> 0:30:22.618 a lot of time, the red zone ultimately comes back 0:30:22.618 --> 0:30:24.458 to the quarterback. I've got to be better, And yes, 0:30:24.498 --> 0:30:26.418 he can be better in the red zone. But I 0:30:26.498 --> 0:30:29.618 do feel like he there is room for him to 0:30:29.698 --> 0:30:31.978 trust others to make plays down there. And I get 0:30:31.978 --> 0:30:34.418 why maybe he doesn't based on the way this year 0:30:34.498 --> 0:30:36.538 is gone. But when you get we'll do offseason. 0:30:36.698 --> 0:30:36.938 Ono. 0:30:37.058 --> 0:30:40.058 Do you hear the clip on the Athletic Football podcast 0:30:40.058 --> 0:30:42.698 this week about a certain receiver that we've talked about 0:30:42.738 --> 0:30:44.818 on the show. We'll get to that. When you get him, 0:30:44.818 --> 0:30:46.938 a guy like that, I think things will start to 0:30:46.938 --> 0:30:47.578 open up for him. 0:30:47.818 --> 0:30:50.698 There's a lot of things that are personnel driven in 0:30:50.738 --> 0:30:53.698 this offense, and like I said, I when it comes 0:30:53.738 --> 0:30:57.338 to red zone, especially Van Pelt shares in a lot 0:30:57.378 --> 0:30:59.818 of the blame. And it took him. Of course, it 0:30:59.858 --> 0:31:03.218 took until week seventeen for them to run Drake in 0:31:03.298 --> 0:31:06.258 the red zone like that's not his fault, that's what 0:31:06.338 --> 0:31:08.778 they're calling for him to run. And I think one 0:31:08.778 --> 0:31:11.538 of the elements you know with Van Pelt that I've 0:31:11.578 --> 0:31:14.418 had you know, criticisms of with the red zone stuff 0:31:14.818 --> 0:31:17.218 is that a lot of it is progression based reads 0:31:17.498 --> 0:31:21.138 for Drake in a condensed area where things happen a 0:31:21.138 --> 0:31:24.538 lot faster down there. And like you said, young quarterbacks, 0:31:26.138 --> 0:31:29.098 this tends to be the last frontier for young quarterbacks 0:31:29.138 --> 0:31:31.378 is throwing in the red zone. So you know, you 0:31:31.418 --> 0:31:35.178 have a young quarterback that isn't you know, exactly there 0:31:35.258 --> 0:31:38.018 yet in terms of the red zone, and instead of 0:31:38.098 --> 0:31:41.738 running you know, some read options, some RPO, you know, 0:31:41.818 --> 0:31:46.178 some more creative type play calls to just sort of 0:31:46.178 --> 0:31:48.778 take him out of dropback mode, right, Like that's what 0:31:48.858 --> 0:31:51.258 I see the most of is like you're asking him 0:31:51.298 --> 0:31:53.898 to drop back pass all the time. Yeah, you know, 0:31:54.498 --> 0:31:57.658 and if you were willing to run the quarterback a 0:31:57.658 --> 0:32:00.778 little bit, you know, great red zone plays like for Philly, 0:32:00.858 --> 0:32:03.498 like their quarterback draw play out of empty is one 0:32:03.538 --> 0:32:06.538 of their dynamite red zone plays, right you just empty 0:32:06.578 --> 0:32:09.538 the backfield. You usually get five in the box against 0:32:09.538 --> 0:32:12.578 five blockers and Jalen Hurts just runs the ball down there. 0:32:12.898 --> 0:32:15.818 Like those are the types of things that if they 0:32:15.818 --> 0:32:18.378 were doing more of those things, then he wouldn't have 0:32:18.458 --> 0:32:20.458 to always try to throw the ball into the end 0:32:20.538 --> 0:32:23.938 zone from a drop back situation and they just don't 0:32:23.938 --> 0:32:26.378 do those types of things. So that that's been frustrating 0:32:26.418 --> 0:32:30.418 to me from a red zone perspective is they should 0:32:30.418 --> 0:32:32.578 be finishing more of these drives. I mean, what was 0:32:32.578 --> 0:32:34.218 it. It was the Colts game that they were two for 0:32:34.298 --> 0:32:37.378 six in the red zone I believe it was. And 0:32:37.418 --> 0:32:40.778 then you know this game were the Cardinals game either, Yeah, 0:32:40.778 --> 0:32:42.858 this game it's been tough too, you know with the Bills. 0:32:42.898 --> 0:32:45.738 So those would be my two biggest nippicks. You know, 0:32:45.778 --> 0:32:48.218 obviously there's individual players, which we'll get to now with 0:32:48.298 --> 0:32:52.218 three up, three down, But in terms of conceptually run defense, 0:32:52.338 --> 0:32:54.178 I think at this point is what it is and 0:32:54.338 --> 0:32:56.338 that's the next season problem. I would like to see 0:32:56.338 --> 0:32:59.058 them be a little bit more buttoned up in the 0:32:59.058 --> 0:33:01.058 red zone in these last two games, like can you 0:33:01.098 --> 0:33:03.898 get some stuff that makes you feel better about how 0:33:03.938 --> 0:33:06.298 they look down in the red area, And it's it's 0:33:06.338 --> 0:33:08.738 a big part of Alex Van Pelts evaluation for me, 0:33:08.818 --> 0:33:11.898 because they're down in red zone that that's where that's 0:33:11.898 --> 0:33:13.218 where coordinators make their mind. 0:33:13.298 --> 0:33:15.258 We'll say this though, you know who the best red 0:33:15.338 --> 0:33:18.658 zone defense is in the NFL. The Chargers, Los Angeles 0:33:18.738 --> 0:33:20.538 Chargers for touchdowns. 0:33:20.618 --> 0:33:22.978 Yeah, big reason why. Then we'll talk a little Chargers. 0:33:23.338 --> 0:33:25.138 The big reason why they're really good in the red 0:33:25.218 --> 0:33:28.258 zone their defensive. 0:33:27.778 --> 0:33:29.738 Tous Edwards just ruled out JK. 0:33:29.818 --> 0:33:33.138 Dobbins question. Okay, I think we should get the Patriots 0:33:33.178 --> 0:33:37.418 then shortly. The big thing, the big reason why they're 0:33:37.618 --> 0:33:40.298 they're a really good red zone defense, Jesse mint Or 0:33:40.338 --> 0:33:43.978 their defensive coordinator is really really good at keying on 0:33:44.058 --> 0:33:46.498 your tendencies on early downs and putting you in long 0:33:46.578 --> 0:33:49.538 down and distance. So if you get into the red 0:33:49.658 --> 0:33:51.698 zone and he kind of knows what you're gonna do 0:33:51.738 --> 0:33:54.018 on first and second down, and now you're in third 0:33:54.018 --> 0:33:55.778 and pass in the red zone all the time. That's 0:33:55.858 --> 0:33:57.458 that's a tough way to live, Like, you don't want 0:33:57.458 --> 0:33:59.098 to live in third and pass. And I think the 0:33:59.098 --> 0:34:02.178 Patriots get into those situations a lot, where they're in 0:34:02.378 --> 0:34:06.578 laid down passing situations from like the low red area, 0:34:06.698 --> 0:34:08.777 which is a really tough place to be. I mean, 0:34:08.817 --> 0:34:12.058 we saw that against Buffalo, just setting everybody and putting 0:34:12.058 --> 0:34:15.098 them in tough spots in there, that situation and that 0:34:15.218 --> 0:34:17.658 drive how many I think it was three defensive pass 0:34:17.658 --> 0:34:21.258 interferences that extended that drive, so they the Patriots need 0:34:21.297 --> 0:34:23.377 to clean that up. Let's do three up, three down. 0:34:23.658 --> 0:34:26.338 We'll talk a little chargers and a little draft as always, 0:34:26.777 --> 0:34:28.218 but do you want to start us off on three up, 0:34:28.258 --> 0:34:30.098 three down? You prepared this week? I am prepared because 0:34:30.138 --> 0:34:32.018 already this sweet Well it's funny because we kind of 0:34:32.058 --> 0:34:36.258 just did the same show you did on Tuesday, Sports Like, Yeah, anyways, 0:34:37.018 --> 0:34:38.698 so I I'll do this a little different because that 0:34:38.738 --> 0:34:40.378 one had to be three up, three down, actually a 0:34:40.418 --> 0:34:44.978 two up, five down. Oh wow, five down you're critical, Yeah. 0:34:44.818 --> 0:34:46.498 A little bit one of them you might have a 0:34:46.538 --> 0:34:46.938 problem with. 0:34:47.018 --> 0:34:48.578 But oh boy. Uh. 0:34:49.578 --> 0:34:52.578 First up, Christian Ellis, who I feel like has been 0:34:52.578 --> 0:34:53.498 on here weekly for me. 0:34:54.018 --> 0:34:55.538 You have him as a up. I have him as 0:34:55.538 --> 0:34:57.418 a up. You have miss down. No, I just don't. 0:34:57.498 --> 0:34:58.418 I didn't think about him. 0:34:58.538 --> 0:35:01.738 I thought that he made one good play in space 0:35:01.778 --> 0:35:04.098 early in the game, good tackle in space. He had 0:35:04.098 --> 0:35:06.378 the pass break up. I mean, for what it was, 0:35:06.458 --> 0:35:07.858 the ball hit off the back of his helmet, but 0:35:07.898 --> 0:35:09.018 he was right there in coverage. 0:35:09.138 --> 0:35:09.538 Yeah. 0:35:09.578 --> 0:35:12.018 A couple other plays where I thought he was in 0:35:12.058 --> 0:35:14.538 the right spot defending the run. They were maybe bigger 0:35:14.618 --> 0:35:17.218 run plays because there were other holes for the back 0:35:17.258 --> 0:35:21.138 to find secondary holes. But and this maybe says more 0:35:21.218 --> 0:35:24.698 about the Patriots current roster than it does about Christianellis. 0:35:25.738 --> 0:35:28.297 He's just been steady. He's been I. 0:35:28.218 --> 0:35:30.178 Don't know how many plays he's like gone out and 0:35:30.258 --> 0:35:33.818 made right creative might play he's created. But there haven't 0:35:34.098 --> 0:35:35.898 really been a ton of instances where he's doing the 0:35:35.978 --> 0:35:37.618 wrong thing either. He just always seems to be in 0:35:37.618 --> 0:35:40.658 the right place, right time, makes the plays that are 0:35:40.658 --> 0:35:43.258 there to be made. And especially on defense this year, 0:35:43.338 --> 0:35:45.738 there's not that many guys you can say that about 0:35:45.778 --> 0:35:48.098 on this team. Like if we were to talk about 0:35:48.538 --> 0:35:52.898 just output for this season, Christian Elli's top fifteen player 0:35:52.898 --> 0:35:54.418 on the team, top ten. 0:35:54.698 --> 0:35:55.777 Like says a lot. 0:35:56.258 --> 0:35:58.498 And again I acknowledge this maybe says more about the 0:35:58.578 --> 0:36:01.178 Rosson does about Ellis. Yeah, who's been more impressive this 0:36:01.258 --> 0:36:02.338 year Christian Ellis, Kyle. 0:36:02.258 --> 0:36:05.658 Loger, Yeah. I mean, look, I think with Ellis, the 0:36:05.658 --> 0:36:07.698 biggest thing that I see is that he has a role. 0:36:07.858 --> 0:36:09.857 You know, he's gonna I think he has a role 0:36:09.898 --> 0:36:12.978 on an NFL roster as a passing downs linebacker. Yeah, 0:36:13.098 --> 0:36:15.018 I do. Now they have to use him a little 0:36:15.018 --> 0:36:16.898 bit more on early downs than he's probably built for. 0:36:17.178 --> 0:36:19.138 But even when he's in those situations, again, he hasn't 0:36:19.178 --> 0:36:22.018 been great, but he hasn't been I don't really seem 0:36:22.098 --> 0:36:22.858 getting exposed. 0:36:23.138 --> 0:36:25.058 He just can't get off blocks in the running game. 0:36:25.098 --> 0:36:28.058 He's just too small, right, And some of that's you know, 0:36:28.058 --> 0:36:30.138 we've talked about this in the past of the run defense. 0:36:30.818 --> 0:36:32.618 I don't love how they play the run with this 0:36:32.738 --> 0:36:35.658 personnel because they're still trying to two gap and they're 0:36:35.658 --> 0:36:38.218 still trying to get their linebackers to take on blockers 0:36:38.218 --> 0:36:41.258 and things like that. And Christian Ellis is what two 0:36:41.298 --> 0:36:43.618 hundred and thirty two hundred and thirty five pounds. Yeah, 0:36:43.618 --> 0:36:46.258 see only Taki Taki another guy who's a smaller guy 0:36:46.418 --> 0:36:49.418 that's more gonna win with athleticism and smarts than he 0:36:49.538 --> 0:36:53.297 is with physicality. So I don't necessarily put it on 0:36:53.338 --> 0:36:56.298 Ellis that they're asking Ellis to stand over the bubble 0:36:56.298 --> 0:36:58.498 and then take on a guard, you know, at the 0:36:58.538 --> 0:37:01.618 point of attack. Like, that's not Christian Ellis problem. That's 0:37:01.618 --> 0:37:03.738 a DeMarcus Covington and girod Meo problem. 0:37:03.818 --> 0:37:06.298 So no, I think he had another solid game, and 0:37:06.338 --> 0:37:07.658 I think he's had a solid year. 0:37:07.898 --> 0:37:12.618 Yeah, okay, fair enough. My first up was Jonathan Jones. Yeah. 0:37:12.658 --> 0:37:15.218 I thought Jonathan Jones was fantastic in this game, the 0:37:15.258 --> 0:37:17.058 best game of the year, best game I've seen him 0:37:17.098 --> 0:37:20.698 play in quite a bit. Look, clear, Shakir is now 0:37:20.738 --> 0:37:23.178 the Bills engine of that offense. He's the straw that 0:37:23.218 --> 0:37:26.698 stirs the drink. It's very Edelman esque, I would say, 0:37:26.978 --> 0:37:29.178 in terms of how they run that offense through him 0:37:29.218 --> 0:37:33.138 in the slot. Jonathan Jones on a twelve routes in 0:37:33.218 --> 0:37:36.738 man to man coverage against Khalil Shaker allowed one catch. 0:37:37.218 --> 0:37:39.218 It was that little drag route over the middle of 0:37:39.218 --> 0:37:42.098 the field in the second half, one catch in twelve yards. 0:37:42.098 --> 0:37:44.298 And guess what on that one catch, he forced a 0:37:44.298 --> 0:37:48.658 fumble on the one catch that he allows. Yeah, peanut punch. 0:37:48.738 --> 0:37:50.297 So even though he gave up a catch, he still 0:37:50.338 --> 0:37:52.418 made a play on the ball. On that play he 0:37:52.458 --> 0:37:54.218 had to pass breakup in the end zone, which was 0:37:54.258 --> 0:37:57.658 just perfect trail coverage, trail man coverage. I just thought 0:37:57.738 --> 0:38:00.458 he was all over Khalil Shakir in this game. And 0:38:00.498 --> 0:38:05.138 maybe the most the most sort of just stamp of 0:38:05.178 --> 0:38:08.738 this game plan against Buffalo was how well prepared they 0:38:08.778 --> 0:38:11.938 were for Shakir and his route tree. It really seemed 0:38:11.978 --> 0:38:14.538 like Jonathan Jones knew the route that Shakira was gonna 0:38:14.578 --> 0:38:17.178 run before he ran it. Kudos to him for his 0:38:17.298 --> 0:38:20.778 preparation on Shakir, but I also would imagine that that 0:38:20.898 --> 0:38:22.578 had a lot to do with what the coaches in 0:38:22.658 --> 0:38:25.858 the game plan was as well. So they recognized, you know, 0:38:25.898 --> 0:38:28.898 Shakier is an inbreaking route runner. He's gonna run crossers, 0:38:28.938 --> 0:38:31.138 he's gonna run slants, he's gonna run things over the 0:38:31.178 --> 0:38:34.418 middle of the field. So they just put Jonathan Jones 0:38:34.738 --> 0:38:37.218 and an inside trail technique and had him just shadow 0:38:37.298 --> 0:38:39.218 him across the field and then they would put his 0:38:39.258 --> 0:38:40.978 safety up over the top of him so that if 0:38:40.978 --> 0:38:43.418 they went deep, he would have that safety help over 0:38:43.458 --> 0:38:46.378 the top. And he was just in his shirt all 0:38:46.458 --> 0:38:50.698 day long. I mean, really great coverage, Jonathan Jones. Yeah, absolutely, 0:38:52.938 --> 0:38:55.618 Nell Johns, you only had two. Really, I would have put. 0:38:55.538 --> 0:38:57.738 Drake May, but he threw the pick and I didn't 0:38:57.778 --> 0:39:00.337 love him dropping the ball on that snap in the red. 0:39:00.938 --> 0:39:03.578 I was like, I considered Drake May. 0:39:03.658 --> 0:39:06.418 He was like close to up but not up. 0:39:06.818 --> 0:39:09.618 So the sticky thing about Drake and I'm with you, 0:39:09.698 --> 0:39:12.498 I considered it because the tough thing about him is 0:39:12.538 --> 0:39:14.618 that it feels like they wouldn't be in these games. 0:39:14.658 --> 0:39:16.738 It wasn't for him, but they also feels like he's 0:39:16.778 --> 0:39:18.978 making some critical errors, so it's hard to put him 0:39:18.978 --> 0:39:21.058 on the ups. But like the same time, you have 0:39:21.098 --> 0:39:23.297 to recognize he's the most valuable player on the team. 0:39:23.338 --> 0:39:25.258 So this is where I was at with Drake basically 0:39:25.258 --> 0:39:27.218 in this game, and we didn't talk about this in 0:39:27.258 --> 0:39:28.898 the open. I wanted to talk about this, yet we're 0:39:28.898 --> 0:39:32.058 getting to it. And I said this with Greg on Tuesday. 0:39:32.218 --> 0:39:35.738 Just for him to go into that environment, both handling 0:39:35.738 --> 0:39:39.218 the coldest game in his career Buffalo, It's loud, it 0:39:39.298 --> 0:39:41.738 was kind of later in the day, just all those 0:39:41.778 --> 0:39:44.658 like that was a big game environment. It obviously wasn't 0:39:44.698 --> 0:39:47.578 a big game for the Patriots at at three and eleven, 0:39:47.738 --> 0:39:50.378 but that was a big game environment, and you don't 0:39:50.418 --> 0:39:51.938 know how these guys are gonna handle it, especially a 0:39:51.938 --> 0:39:53.978 guy that was in the ACC. We're seeing the college 0:39:53.978 --> 0:39:56.258 football playoff right now, like what these kids look like 0:39:56.298 --> 0:39:58.698 when they go into a real road playoff game. R 0:39:58.698 --> 0:40:00.498 I think that's a big reason the games are lopsided 0:40:00.578 --> 0:40:04.058 last week. So you don't know what he's gonna look like. 0:40:04.098 --> 0:40:05.777 And he went in there and he like they showed 0:40:05.818 --> 0:40:06.618 him on TV earlier. 0:40:06.658 --> 0:40:08.178 I thought he looks cold. 0:40:08.418 --> 0:40:13.458 Yeah, he looks but it it may have bothered him, 0:40:13.738 --> 0:40:17.618 but it didn't impact him, and that's really all that matters. 0:40:17.858 --> 0:40:19.817 In the noise, like the play some of the play 0:40:19.818 --> 0:40:21.698 calls gotten late, but there were also times he was 0:40:21.738 --> 0:40:23.578 able to handle it and make it work and things 0:40:23.618 --> 0:40:27.458 like that. If we're talking about the long term five 0:40:27.458 --> 0:40:30.978 to ten year window, that game was incredibly encouraging for 0:40:31.058 --> 0:40:33.138 Drake May because, look, the games are gonna get bigger 0:40:33.258 --> 0:40:35.777 and we'll see but as much of a big game 0:40:35.898 --> 0:40:37.578 environment as he's had in the NFL, that was a 0:40:37.578 --> 0:40:40.777 pretty legit environment. He handled it well. So you have 0:40:40.898 --> 0:40:43.578 a quarterback that can go into that environment and handle it. 0:40:43.978 --> 0:40:46.658 Five ten year window, great game for Drake May. If 0:40:46.698 --> 0:40:49.578 we are just talking about who played the best technical 0:40:49.618 --> 0:40:53.858 football game on Sunday, he's not towards the top of 0:40:53.858 --> 0:40:56.298 the list because he had his issues. But for a 0:40:56.378 --> 0:41:00.018 rookie in that spot, the issues he had you live 0:41:00.098 --> 0:41:02.538 with and you say, okay, overall he did. He did 0:41:02.578 --> 0:41:04.738 what he needed to do in this game for what 0:41:04.898 --> 0:41:05.777 this game was. 0:41:05.978 --> 0:41:08.938 Yeah, it's a great point, and I believe it was. 0:41:09.098 --> 0:41:10.978 Van Pelt right then mentioned that it was good for 0:41:11.018 --> 0:41:14.018 the younger players. Yeah, he talked about that today, to 0:41:14.058 --> 0:41:16.218 play in Buffalo for the first time and get that 0:41:16.378 --> 0:41:19.338 first game under their belt. And I agree. And in 0:41:19.418 --> 0:41:22.058 some ways, you know, granted, they they're going to have 0:41:22.138 --> 0:41:23.817 to do it when the stakes are higher and that's 0:41:23.818 --> 0:41:25.858 gonna be a different kind of pressure. But to have 0:41:25.938 --> 0:41:28.298 it be sort of a low pressure situation for the 0:41:28.338 --> 0:41:29.018 first time. 0:41:29.058 --> 0:41:32.018 Low pressure of a high pressure pressure situation, as you 0:41:32.018 --> 0:41:32.458 can get it. 0:41:32.498 --> 0:41:34.777 Wasn't maybe the worst thing in the world that it 0:41:34.858 --> 0:41:36.698 wasn't a game that they had to win for a 0:41:36.738 --> 0:41:38.297 playoff seed or something like that. 0:41:38.298 --> 0:41:41.297 That's a valuable game for young team and the coaches too, 0:41:41.338 --> 0:41:44.298 nuts players coaches, Yeah, that's a valuable game for a 0:41:44.338 --> 0:41:45.898 young team. In the fact that was as close as 0:41:45.898 --> 0:41:48.297 it was is a So this and this goes back 0:41:48.338 --> 0:41:49.658 to what we set off the top. You're talking about 0:41:49.658 --> 0:41:51.178 the game playing stuff now the handle it. I'm talking 0:41:51.178 --> 0:41:54.218 about the end game. Yeah, like five ten year projection. 0:41:54.698 --> 0:41:57.458 You feel really good about that game. You feel better 0:41:57.498 --> 0:41:59.458 about that game in the five ten year window than 0:41:59.498 --> 0:42:02.018 you do the actual football product we saw on Sunday, 0:42:02.178 --> 0:42:03.938 which is not necessarily a bad thing for where this 0:42:03.978 --> 0:42:04.498 team is at. 0:42:04.658 --> 0:42:06.578 Yeah, I would just say the other thing with Drake 0:42:06.658 --> 0:42:09.458 May the reason why I you know, look, he made 0:42:09.498 --> 0:42:12.538 some fantastic throws in this game. Obviously, the touchdown to 0:42:12.538 --> 0:42:15.498 Booty is just that that's an unbelievab beautiful throw. 0:42:15.618 --> 0:42:17.777 He had one to Hunter Henry two on third down 0:42:17.778 --> 0:42:19.738 on an out that he threw before Henry got out 0:42:19.778 --> 0:42:22.458 of the break. That was like, that's an NFL That's 0:42:22.498 --> 0:42:24.058 an NFL third down throw right there. 0:42:24.138 --> 0:42:26.018 Oh yeah, No, I mean he made he made several 0:42:26.058 --> 0:42:29.777 great plays in this game. But the the reason why 0:42:29.818 --> 0:42:32.018 I didn't go put him on the ups. Yeah, this 0:42:32.098 --> 0:42:34.378 game felt a little North Carolina eat to me in 0:42:34.458 --> 0:42:38.578 terms of his performance, where there's five or six throws 0:42:38.578 --> 0:42:41.178 that he made in this game that make your jaw drop, 0:42:41.418 --> 0:42:43.698 But then there was also the turnovers and some you know, 0:42:43.938 --> 0:42:45.178 real critical miscuse. 0:42:45.338 --> 0:42:48.218 Looked more Josh Allen than Josh Allen did in this game. 0:42:48.218 --> 0:42:51.858 You're gonna hate me saying that, but yeah, it's or 0:42:51.858 --> 0:42:54.258 do you agree? Uh, he looked more like Josh Allen 0:42:54.298 --> 0:42:56.098 than Josh Josh Allen looked Timid. 0:42:57.178 --> 0:42:59.578 He We'll get to Josh Allen in a second. I 0:43:00.178 --> 0:43:02.618 would just say that, I mean the spin move on 0:43:02.658 --> 0:43:05.138 the first down run, that's Josh Allen. Yeah. I would 0:43:05.138 --> 0:43:08.498 just say that if you're if you you could see 0:43:08.498 --> 0:43:10.658 this game with Drake May anyway you want to see it, 0:43:11.018 --> 0:43:13.857 you could watch this game and you could say, look 0:43:13.898 --> 0:43:15.338 at this throw. You know, the throw he made to 0:43:15.338 --> 0:43:17.338 Booty over the middle of the field, you know, when 0:43:17.378 --> 0:43:19.218 the blitz came and they had to abort the play 0:43:19.218 --> 0:43:21.618 action fake and he just rolls out and uh, you 0:43:21.618 --> 0:43:24.978 know with his body weight, you know, flying right, he 0:43:25.058 --> 0:43:27.298 throws back into the middle of the field left. Like 0:43:27.378 --> 0:43:32.218 that throw is crazy. That's a crazy Josh Allen, Patrick 0:43:32.258 --> 0:43:36.538 Mahomes like unreal throw. Right, the touchdown to Booty is 0:43:36.578 --> 0:43:38.777 a great throw. Some of the third down throws that 0:43:38.818 --> 0:43:41.138 you mentioned, you know, Crosser to Hunter Henry early on 0:43:41.178 --> 0:43:44.258 in the game opening drive, scrambles for another first down 0:43:44.258 --> 0:43:46.777 when there was nobody open. I like those types of 0:43:46.818 --> 0:43:50.738 players are him adding to the to the situation, like 0:43:50.778 --> 0:43:53.738 he's elevating the product, like Kaishan Boody no offense, But 0:43:53.858 --> 0:43:57.498 like that's not He's not Randy Moss right and he 0:43:57.578 --> 0:44:00.618 made such a perfect throw on the touchdown to Kaishan 0:44:00.658 --> 0:44:02.777 Boody that Kashan Budy had no choice but to catch 0:44:02.818 --> 0:44:05.098 it right. It was literally it was literally right in 0:44:05.138 --> 0:44:07.098 his hands, like there is no way he was gonna 0:44:07.578 --> 0:44:09.978 not come away with the football. The other thing I 0:44:10.018 --> 0:44:12.377 would say about Drake May that almost put him on 0:44:12.498 --> 0:44:14.298 the ups for me. I don't know about you, but 0:44:14.338 --> 0:44:16.458 I had some people from Buffalo reach out to me 0:44:16.498 --> 0:44:19.098 after the game that say that they're they're capital w 0:44:19.098 --> 0:44:21.618 worried about how good Drake May played in that game. 0:44:21.818 --> 0:44:23.777 I know they're also capital w worried about their own 0:44:23.778 --> 0:44:26.018 football team. They were not happy about that. 0:44:26.138 --> 0:44:29.418 No, there was boo birds at halftime, them off the field. 0:44:29.698 --> 0:44:31.898 But a lot of people that I know in Buffalo, 0:44:31.938 --> 0:44:33.897 you know, friends of mine, and I'm sure your friends 0:44:33.898 --> 0:44:35.937 said the same thing. We went to school and upper 0:44:36.058 --> 0:44:37.858 Upstate New York, so we all have we all have 0:44:37.858 --> 0:44:43.418 friends that was more just mad about Yeah. You know 0:44:43.578 --> 0:44:45.938 a lot of Patriots can't believe it. But a lot 0:44:45.978 --> 0:44:48.098 of people I think in Buffalo are like, well, now 0:44:48.138 --> 0:44:50.938 they have their own Josh Allen, so if they get 0:44:50.938 --> 0:44:54.578 this situation around it correct. Anyways, let's get back to 0:44:54.658 --> 0:44:58.098 the actual list here. So my number two up was 0:44:58.178 --> 0:45:01.898 Jeremiah Farms, basically a one man pass rush in this game. 0:45:02.298 --> 0:45:04.857 He had five quarterback pressures. Nobody else on the team 0:45:04.898 --> 0:45:07.938 had more than one, So it was really Jeremiah Farms 0:45:08.058 --> 0:45:10.258 getting pressure on the quarterback. I do think that was 0:45:10.298 --> 0:45:13.658 by design that they were willing to let Jeremiah Farms 0:45:14.018 --> 0:45:18.258 rush Josh Allen, expecting Josh Allen to go out out 0:45:18.378 --> 0:45:20.538 of the back of the pocket rather than going up 0:45:20.578 --> 0:45:22.777 through the middle of the pocket. So if you let 0:45:22.818 --> 0:45:25.218 those interior guys kind of tee off a little bit 0:45:25.538 --> 0:45:27.738 and then you keep the edges, you know, firm and 0:45:27.778 --> 0:45:30.458 make him stay in the pocket, you have some opportunity. 0:45:30.618 --> 0:45:32.258 He had the sack when he kind of you know, 0:45:32.338 --> 0:45:34.937 ran into him. But I thought he was the one 0:45:35.018 --> 0:45:38.138 guy that had impactful pressures in this game and was 0:45:38.138 --> 0:45:40.658 getting after the quarterback a little bit. Yeah, I thought 0:45:40.858 --> 0:45:43.178 I thought he saw a game n number three. I 0:45:43.218 --> 0:45:46.538 did put Kaishan Boudi on here. I thought Kishan Boudi 0:45:47.098 --> 0:45:50.218 was really good in this game. Twenty eight yard touchdown. Obviously, 0:45:50.298 --> 0:45:52.378 he had the twenty two yarder on the crosser that 0:45:52.418 --> 0:45:55.058 I was just talking about, where Drake May the off 0:45:55.098 --> 0:45:57.777 platform throw, and then he had another chunk play that 0:45:57.858 --> 0:45:59.618 was left on the field that Drake, one of his 0:45:59.698 --> 0:46:02.378 sprays in this game, you know, missed him coming across 0:46:02.378 --> 0:46:05.538 the field. That probably would have been another twenty twenty 0:46:05.578 --> 0:46:07.777 five yard game at least if he hits him in 0:46:07.818 --> 0:46:10.218 stride there. So it almost makes up for the fact 0:46:10.218 --> 0:46:12.698 that thirty one of his yards came on a garbage 0:46:12.698 --> 0:46:14.858 play ten and a half because he should have had 0:46:14.978 --> 0:46:17.578 you know, the play on the chunk play that Drake 0:46:17.658 --> 0:46:20.458 May missed him. So I thought Kai Shan Boody has 0:46:20.498 --> 0:46:24.297 continued to show that he belongs in an NFL receiver room. Yeah. 0:46:24.338 --> 0:46:26.218 I don't know if he's a starting X receiver in 0:46:26.218 --> 0:46:28.818 the league, but he is a receiver in the league. 0:46:28.898 --> 0:46:31.857 He's still just so inconsistent. Yeah, it's tough to count 0:46:31.898 --> 0:46:33.978 on him for anything. If he's your fourth or fifth receiver. 0:46:34.458 --> 0:46:36.898 Throwing him out there ten fifteen snaps a game kind 0:46:36.898 --> 0:46:39.778 of his insurance. I think that's probably the role for him. 0:46:40.258 --> 0:46:42.298 This is kind of what we've seen from him his 0:46:42.578 --> 0:46:45.178 whole two years here. There's moments where he looks great, 0:46:45.258 --> 0:46:48.178 but there's just not enough of them strung together. 0:46:48.778 --> 0:46:50.698 Yeah, that's fair. All right, let's go to the downs. 0:46:50.858 --> 0:46:53.337 You got seventeen of them, So Harry, I have five. 0:46:53.378 --> 0:46:57.818 It's really for ramondre Stevenson number one. I so we 0:46:57.858 --> 0:46:58.898 haven't talked about. 0:46:58.738 --> 0:47:00.658 It was tough for me. Sorry to cut you off, 0:47:00.658 --> 0:47:04.138 but he also had a ridiculous fourteen yard touchdown run. Yeah, 0:47:04.458 --> 0:47:06.458 so I was. I kind of love the defense about him. 0:47:06.938 --> 0:47:11.658 So through his first I think he's too. Have this 0:47:11.698 --> 0:47:14.337 written down through his first two hundred and ninety nine 0:47:14.418 --> 0:47:17.378 career care I'll do it this way. Through his first three. 0:47:17.338 --> 0:47:21.857 NFL seasons, Yes, he had seven fumbles. Yeah, this year 0:47:22.618 --> 0:47:25.377 he has seven fumbles. Yeah, it's it's a real Yeah. 0:47:25.378 --> 0:47:28.058 In his first three hundred and ninety nine career carries, 0:47:28.098 --> 0:47:29.938 he had seven fumbles. In the last two hundred five, 0:47:29.978 --> 0:47:32.418 he has seven, almost hat like twice the fumble rate. 0:47:33.018 --> 0:47:36.138 I also, so we haven't talked about the backwards lateral 0:47:36.138 --> 0:47:37.858 play yet. 0:47:37.898 --> 0:47:41.378 I call me a sucker if you want. I kind 0:47:41.418 --> 0:47:43.658 of believe Alex van Pelt. I take his side on this. 0:47:44.098 --> 0:47:45.138 Is it a great play to call? 0:47:45.178 --> 0:47:45.297 There? 0:47:45.418 --> 0:47:48.138 No, I see what they're going for. The Bills are 0:47:48.138 --> 0:47:50.618 getting really aggressive in their rush. They're trying to catch 0:47:50.618 --> 0:47:53.498 the Bills coming upfield, throw something quick behind him and 0:47:53.538 --> 0:47:57.857 get going. I would have probably called just a traditional 0:47:58.458 --> 0:48:01.698 half back slip screen, will slip screen. I think that 0:48:02.178 --> 0:48:05.297 is less risky. It achieves the same goal. Now that 0:48:05.338 --> 0:48:08.938 being said, every why would you call backwards pass in 0:48:08.978 --> 0:48:11.817 that situation? It's not supposed to be a backwards pass. 0:48:12.218 --> 0:48:15.978 Ramandre Stevenson sunk his rat. Why did Ramandre Stevenson sink 0:48:16.018 --> 0:48:18.338 his route? I'm gonna combine my first two downs because 0:48:18.378 --> 0:48:21.458 Demandre Jacobs, who's the other one, misses the cut block, 0:48:21.538 --> 0:48:24.698 and Stevenson sens is the pressure steps back. Something of 0:48:24.698 --> 0:48:26.777 this is on Drake two. You got to either lead 0:48:26.858 --> 0:48:28.498 him forward or throw that ball at his feet or 0:48:28.538 --> 0:48:31.058 throw it away. Should van Pel, I'll have a better 0:48:31.098 --> 0:48:33.858 read on the personnel. You're asking Demontrey Jacobs, who's had 0:48:33.898 --> 0:48:36.377 a rough game to cut block a great edge rusher, Like, yeah, 0:48:36.538 --> 0:48:39.138 Van Pel's not innocent in this either, But let's not 0:48:39.258 --> 0:48:40.938 act like they were like, Oh, yeah, we're gonna throw 0:48:40.978 --> 0:48:43.618 the ball backwards four yards because that's a good play. Yeah, 0:48:43.658 --> 0:48:48.138 it's supposed to be a very basic half back flat route. 0:48:48.538 --> 0:48:52.937 The execution I don't know. I couldn't think that word. 0:48:53.058 --> 0:48:56.218 The execution is blown at three levels and I think 0:48:56.258 --> 0:48:58.178 that and on top of that, I know we got hit, 0:48:58.258 --> 0:49:00.698 but my rule ball hits in both hands, catch it, 0:49:01.218 --> 0:49:03.698 and that goes to there are some drops elsewhere in 0:49:03.698 --> 0:49:06.458 the game, frankly goes to Drake May's fumble too, Like 0:49:07.018 --> 0:49:09.698 I thought, ste if I'm assigning blame on that play 0:49:09.818 --> 0:49:14.058 to Monterrey, Jacobs is number one to me, Stevenson's number two, 0:49:14.658 --> 0:49:17.857 then Van Pelt, then Drake. Was it the best play call? 0:49:18.058 --> 0:49:18.098 No? 0:49:19.538 --> 0:49:21.498 And this is a line we've kind of walked this 0:49:21.618 --> 0:49:25.578 year where on one hand, you say, okay, but know 0:49:25.618 --> 0:49:27.897 who your personnel are. If you can't execute it, don't 0:49:27.898 --> 0:49:31.698 call it. But if you're in that camp, you can't 0:49:31.738 --> 0:49:35.658 complain that the play callings to Vanilla, right, because if 0:49:35.698 --> 0:49:38.538 you're just calling off the talent, that leaves a lot 0:49:38.538 --> 0:49:41.897 of things off your play sheet. So for what they are, 0:49:42.058 --> 0:49:43.898 a three and eleven team trying to pull an upset again, 0:49:43.938 --> 0:49:48.218 I wouldn't have called that exact play, but they tried something. 0:49:48.458 --> 0:49:51.538 They they took a shot at something. I don't fault 0:49:51.578 --> 0:49:54.458 the play call a ton there a little bit because 0:49:54.458 --> 0:49:56.377 I think could have been better, but not a ton 0:49:56.418 --> 0:49:58.058 because if you're only gonna call, you can do off 0:49:58.058 --> 0:49:59.978 the personnel. They're really just not gonna be running that 0:50:00.018 --> 0:50:00.578 many plays. 0:50:00.898 --> 0:50:04.218 Yeah, so I did in the moment. The reason why 0:50:04.258 --> 0:50:07.378 I wasn't like totally critical of it was because they 0:50:07.378 --> 0:50:10.618 had a drive earlier after the Mapu interception where they 0:50:10.618 --> 0:50:14.058 were backed up and Drake May threw two really solid 0:50:14.138 --> 0:50:16.618 passes backed up in his own end zone, one of 0:50:16.658 --> 0:50:18.458 them with his feet in the end zone to get 0:50:19.178 --> 0:50:22.618 is that the great throat? Yeah, that was a great 0:50:22.698 --> 0:50:24.698 throw and the third down throat. He was really good. 0:50:24.978 --> 0:50:27.018 Sorry just on Drakes, you didn't touch on it. He 0:50:27.098 --> 0:50:29.178 was really good outside the numbers in this game, which 0:50:29.218 --> 0:50:29.817 is a ton of fun. 0:50:29.898 --> 0:50:33.018 Yeah. He made a throw on third down to Austin 0:50:33.058 --> 0:50:35.538 Hooper on a little stick route where he throws it before, 0:50:35.738 --> 0:50:39.178 like with anticipation, before Hooper came out of his break 0:50:39.378 --> 0:50:41.978 from like his five yard line. Like, that's a ballsy throw, 0:50:42.258 --> 0:50:44.817 right for a rookie quarterback to to just let that 0:50:44.858 --> 0:50:47.698 thing go and trust that your receiver is gonna get 0:50:47.738 --> 0:50:50.378 open and that it's gonna hit off, you know, correctly. 0:50:50.418 --> 0:50:53.938 So watching how poised he was in that situation earlier 0:50:53.938 --> 0:50:56.218 on in the game, I had no problem with him 0:50:56.258 --> 0:50:59.098 trying to throw later on in the game because he 0:50:59.138 --> 0:51:01.258 already proved that he could do it in this environment. 0:51:01.778 --> 0:51:04.858 The only the only little nitpick that I had of 0:51:04.938 --> 0:51:07.538 Drake May, and I thought Van Pelt said it well 0:51:07.618 --> 0:51:10.818 about the fumble. It was he was a little fast, 0:51:10.938 --> 0:51:13.138 like that's probably one, yeah, that he was a little 0:51:13.138 --> 0:51:15.458 sped up on. And you should probably at least confirm 0:51:15.578 --> 0:51:17.898 that the end is cut before you throw the ball, 0:51:18.258 --> 0:51:20.298 because if you're Drake May, and I've heard, you know, 0:51:20.338 --> 0:51:22.698 Brian Hoyer said throw it at his feet. Well, it's 0:51:22.738 --> 0:51:24.698 a backward pass. Have you thrown at his feet? Right? 0:51:24.698 --> 0:51:26.618 He likes either way, it's a fumble. 0:51:26.778 --> 0:51:29.018 When you throw a roll out, throw it at a bounds, 0:51:29.058 --> 0:51:30.618 you probably have somebody in the backs. 0:51:30.858 --> 0:51:33.618 Like run it for a no gain sack or something, 0:51:33.618 --> 0:51:35.938 you know what I mean. Like, there's other options to 0:51:35.978 --> 0:51:37.897 eat it without throwing it behind the line. 0:51:37.898 --> 0:51:40.138 One other take on that Drake May did this once. 0:51:40.898 --> 0:51:43.298 But I saw this a ton in the NFL the 0:51:43.378 --> 0:51:46.018 last few weeks and in college. Have you noticed this 0:51:46.178 --> 0:51:49.218 rising trend of quarterbacks running out of bounds behind the 0:51:49.218 --> 0:51:49.898 line of scrimmage? 0:51:51.298 --> 0:51:53.218 It was it this week or in Arizona. That is 0:51:53.258 --> 0:51:53.618 this week. 0:51:53.698 --> 0:51:55.618 You might have done in Arizona too, but it happened 0:51:55.658 --> 0:51:57.658 a couple of times in the college games. It happened. 0:51:58.458 --> 0:51:59.378 I think CJ. 0:51:59.498 --> 0:52:00.058 Stroud did it. 0:52:00.058 --> 0:52:02.258 Against the Chiefs last week. I hate it. I actually 0:52:02.298 --> 0:52:04.777 might have counted it as a minus player and I 0:52:04.778 --> 0:52:05.138 hate it. 0:52:05.178 --> 0:52:06.778 I don't know why this is suddenly a thing. I 0:52:06.778 --> 0:52:08.378 don't know if it's stat padding, I don't know what 0:52:08.418 --> 0:52:10.978 it is. If you're like toe on the line, just 0:52:11.098 --> 0:52:13.018 flick it, just flick it out of bounds. 0:52:13.258 --> 0:52:14.938 Yeah, I don't know what it is, but I mean 0:52:14.978 --> 0:52:17.058 in this game it was a one yard loss. Compared 0:52:17.098 --> 0:52:18.938 to it, he wasn't as egregious as some of the 0:52:18.978 --> 0:52:21.098 other ones I've seen. Anyway, that was a side. You know, 0:52:21.098 --> 0:52:23.178 he has done it a couple of times. We're being 0:52:23.178 --> 0:52:26.218 a little critical on Drake though, so it's gonna reel back. No. 0:52:26.218 --> 0:52:29.498 No, I honestly, I really meant that as like there 0:52:29.498 --> 0:52:31.658 were some not Drake. It just made me think of it, 0:52:31.698 --> 0:52:35.378 some really egregious ones elsewhere around the league. This has 0:52:35.378 --> 0:52:37.458 been a trend. Like I really think the whole year, 0:52:37.618 --> 0:52:38.898 I didn't see Mahomes do it. 0:52:38.978 --> 0:52:41.458 Bad coaching. What do we do it. Yeah. Yeah, a 0:52:41.498 --> 0:52:43.818 lot of these quarterbacks, I think too, you know that 0:52:43.858 --> 0:52:47.218 are mobile. Everybody's mobile now at that position for the 0:52:47.218 --> 0:52:50.297 most part. And so I wonder how much of it 0:52:50.338 --> 0:52:53.098 is is that they get out the pocket, have their 0:52:53.138 --> 0:52:55.218 eyes downfield trying to make a play, and they kind 0:52:55.218 --> 0:52:58.698 of lose where they are relative to the line of scrimmage, 0:52:58.778 --> 0:53:01.298 you know what I mean. I think that's an element 0:53:01.338 --> 0:53:03.777 of it. Two. And like, if you're in that situation, 0:53:04.978 --> 0:53:07.818 if you're running up the field, like you feel yourself 0:53:07.898 --> 0:53:09.938 running up the field right, so you can probably think 0:53:09.938 --> 0:53:11.938 to yourself, oh, I'm definitely pass the line of scrimmage 0:53:11.938 --> 0:53:14.258 at this point, when you're really not because you drop 0:53:14.338 --> 0:53:16.898 back so far right, you lost so much ground in 0:53:16.938 --> 0:53:19.978 your drop. Anyways, I still had Drake for eleven plus 0:53:20.058 --> 0:53:22.138 place to seven minus. He was still in that positive 0:53:22.178 --> 0:53:23.898 in this game. So I don't want to make it 0:53:23.938 --> 0:53:26.337 sound like we're ragging on him too much. But now 0:53:26.378 --> 0:53:28.458 that they get into these games, to your point about 0:53:28.458 --> 0:53:31.658 the in game coaching, like these these four or five plays, 0:53:31.898 --> 0:53:33.938 I think that was another thing that Mayor Van Pelt 0:53:33.978 --> 0:53:37.098 said today. They basically lost this game because of like 0:53:37.138 --> 0:53:39.338 four or five plays, right, and that. That's what it 0:53:39.378 --> 0:53:42.058 comes down to. My number one down in this game. 0:53:42.098 --> 0:53:46.058 You mentioned him already was Trey Jacobs. Was this was tough. 0:53:46.098 --> 0:53:48.138 This was a tough go of it for Trey Jacobs. 0:53:48.578 --> 0:53:52.538 Five quarterback pressures, two quarterback hits, two false starts, and 0:53:52.618 --> 0:53:55.738 the blown chop block also cut block whatever you want 0:53:55.738 --> 0:53:57.338 to call it. I call it cut block as a 0:53:57.378 --> 0:54:01.378 chop box. I legal cut block on Greg Russo on 0:54:01.378 --> 0:54:06.417 the fumble six. So just some really non competitive reps too. 0:54:06.738 --> 0:54:09.018 I think that's what stood out the most to me. Look, 0:54:09.058 --> 0:54:11.458 five pressures isn't the worst game I've ever seen from 0:54:11.458 --> 0:54:13.378 a tackle. I mean there's been times the guys have 0:54:13.418 --> 0:54:16.857 been in the double digits, so it's not horrible in 0:54:16.858 --> 0:54:20.098 that respect. But he had four or five reps against 0:54:20.138 --> 0:54:22.458 von Miller where he didn't even get his hand on 0:54:22.578 --> 0:54:24.618 von Miller as he was coming around the edge, Like 0:54:24.698 --> 0:54:28.378 just non competitive blowbys. Those can't happen, Like you have 0:54:28.458 --> 0:54:30.858 to at least be a traffic on right, You have 0:54:30.898 --> 0:54:33.858 to at least get him to go and widen the 0:54:33.938 --> 0:54:36.738 rush a little bit, Like you can't just have these 0:54:36.778 --> 0:54:39.858 no contest rushes like he did in this game. So 0:54:41.178 --> 0:54:43.698 Kidden Wallace if if he's starting to heat up a 0:54:43.698 --> 0:54:46.458 little bit in practice. I definitely do think that this 0:54:46.818 --> 0:54:49.618 is the type of game where you could consider making 0:54:49.618 --> 0:54:51.258 a move. Now, they're going to have a new center 0:54:51.378 --> 0:54:54.378 already in cal Strange it sounds like for Sunday, so 0:54:54.418 --> 0:54:56.857 that would be two new starters. But look, you're three 0:54:56.938 --> 0:54:59.058 and three and twelve and you have two games to 0:54:59.098 --> 0:55:03.618 go in the season. It's not really right whatever point, Yeah, 0:55:03.618 --> 0:55:04.938 all right, number two down. 0:55:06.138 --> 0:55:08.938 Well, so I had steems in Jacob's Kyle Duggar. Yeah, 0:55:09.178 --> 0:55:13.297 he had one play in this game where I think 0:55:13.338 --> 0:55:15.898 it was knocks catches the pass and the flat and 0:55:15.938 --> 0:55:18.418 Dugger runs right up and sticks him. Yeah, no, shars, 0:55:18.618 --> 0:55:20.938 Where has that guy been? Yeah, that's the Kyle Dugger 0:55:20.978 --> 0:55:23.698 I know. But missed another couple more tackles. He just 0:55:23.738 --> 0:55:24.738 he still doesn't look right. 0:55:25.578 --> 0:55:28.018 He's playing through something. I think that's pretty clear at 0:55:28.018 --> 0:55:30.658 this point. I just had my number two, and I 0:55:30.698 --> 0:55:32.338 just had the run defense as a whole. I just 0:55:32.418 --> 0:55:36.738 think everybody just stunk in that regard. You know, eight misstackles, 0:55:36.738 --> 0:55:39.178 like I mentioned earlier, in the run game, four of 0:55:39.178 --> 0:55:41.378 them would have been tackles for loss. You give up 0:55:41.378 --> 0:55:44.458 a forty six yard touchdown in this game. In the 0:55:44.538 --> 0:55:47.258 run game, and to your point, the Bills could have 0:55:47.338 --> 0:55:48.218 ran the ball all day long. 0:55:48.258 --> 0:55:48.618 I don't know why. 0:55:48.938 --> 0:55:51.018 I don't know why they didn't either. I don't I 0:55:51.298 --> 0:55:53.418 expect the Chargers to run the ball all day long 0:55:53.458 --> 0:55:56.698 on Saturday. Like this run defense is just it's just bad. 0:55:56.898 --> 0:55:59.618 Like it's just a bad run defense. So I would 0:55:59.658 --> 0:56:02.258 definitely anticipate the Chargers to run the ball a ton. 0:56:02.338 --> 0:56:03.618 All Right, what else do you got? 0:56:03.978 --> 0:56:06.297 I had Marte Mopu just for running the interception out. 0:56:06.338 --> 0:56:08.698 He didn't have a bad game, that was he had. 0:56:09.298 --> 0:56:12.218 He had one of the most eventful games. I think 0:56:12.258 --> 0:56:14.218 that was a good way to put it. I've ever charted. 0:56:14.298 --> 0:56:17.578 Like there was some plays where he was just really 0:56:17.618 --> 0:56:20.858 good on the play right, like the crosser that he 0:56:20.938 --> 0:56:23.338 undercut where he almost picked it off again on the 0:56:23.378 --> 0:56:27.138 next drive after the interception, was a really good coverage rep. Like, 0:56:27.178 --> 0:56:29.898 that's a really good rep. He had some really high 0:56:30.018 --> 0:56:33.058 level play in this game, even the interception, Like does 0:56:33.098 --> 0:56:35.178 a nice job of playing the post and you know, 0:56:35.378 --> 0:56:38.738 just not getting baited out or anything like that and 0:56:38.818 --> 0:56:40.297 just sit there and wait for the ball to come 0:56:40.298 --> 0:56:42.658 to you. Some really good plays in this game. And 0:56:42.698 --> 0:56:45.898 then he also had some really knucklehead plays in this game, 0:56:46.458 --> 0:56:49.098 so he was a tough one. Yeah, and then I just. 0:56:49.018 --> 0:56:51.458 Had the game management, which we already talked about. 0:56:51.498 --> 0:56:53.897 Okay, so I have one more down that you're gonna love, 0:56:54.018 --> 0:56:56.578 Oh boy, Josh Allen. I have one more down that 0:56:56.618 --> 0:57:00.978 you're gonna love, Josh Allen. Josh Allen. Let's go, Josh Allen. 0:57:01.138 --> 0:57:05.898 And I don't mean to like, you know, glasshouses, right, 0:57:06.018 --> 0:57:08.538 I get it, but I'm a big Josh Allen fan, 0:57:08.778 --> 0:57:12.777 as you know, much to your chagrin, this was one 0:57:12.778 --> 0:57:14.777 of the worst Josh Allen games I've seen him play 0:57:14.818 --> 0:57:17.538 against the Patriots since he became Josh Allen. Right, we're 0:57:17.578 --> 0:57:21.738 talking about rookie year Josh Allen, second year Josh Allen. 0:57:22.218 --> 0:57:25.058 With this game. He missed a lot of plays in 0:57:25.098 --> 0:57:27.218 this game. He left a lot of plays on the field. 0:57:27.498 --> 0:57:31.058 You know, some egregiously wide open receiver type misses a 0:57:31.098 --> 0:57:34.098 couple of times. And I just felt like the Patriots, 0:57:34.458 --> 0:57:37.098 to their credit, baited him into playing a lot of 0:57:37.138 --> 0:57:40.498 hero ball in this game. You know, old Josh Allen 0:57:40.578 --> 0:57:43.418 gonna roll right, chuck it, you know, twenty forty five, 0:57:43.618 --> 0:57:46.698 fifty yards down the field, you know, low percentage throws. 0:57:46.738 --> 0:57:49.058 He had one on the wheel. You mentioned that Christian 0:57:49.098 --> 0:57:51.578 Ellis was in good position on he had a couple 0:57:51.658 --> 0:57:54.618 to Shakir that just had no chance of being cat. 0:57:54.818 --> 0:57:56.578 I don't care that it's an arm punt, Like the 0:57:56.658 --> 0:57:59.738 interception was another one where you know, find a profit. 0:57:59.858 --> 0:58:01.738 Let's the CBS said, what an arm punt? 0:58:01.738 --> 0:58:01.938 Wow? 0:58:01.978 --> 0:58:03.898 Because you can't you can't say Josh threw a pick. 0:58:04.218 --> 0:58:07.498 So on the one hand, I tested you this on Monday, 0:58:08.058 --> 0:58:10.898 the Patriots finally got a bad Josh Allen game, Like, 0:58:10.978 --> 0:58:13.578 this was the first bad Josh Allen game that I 0:58:13.618 --> 0:58:15.858 think I've seen him have against the Pats in a 0:58:15.898 --> 0:58:19.378 long long time. Now, the downside is they didn't win it, right, 0:58:19.218 --> 0:58:21.978 Like he kind of handed him an off game by 0:58:22.018 --> 0:58:24.658 his standards, and they still didn't win the game, which 0:58:24.738 --> 0:58:27.538 is a bummer. But I was I was disappointed in 0:58:27.618 --> 0:58:29.458 my guy. He did not play well in this game. 0:58:30.098 --> 0:58:33.938 So I had Josh Allen. Yeah. Also, like you know, 0:58:34.338 --> 0:58:38.578 a couple honorable mentions, Joe Brady honorable mention, another guy 0:58:38.578 --> 0:58:41.378 that I really like. The one thing I'll give them, 0:58:41.778 --> 0:58:43.818 I don't think they necessarily thought they had to run 0:58:43.898 --> 0:58:46.138 Josh Allen in this game to win it, so they 0:58:46.178 --> 0:58:48.498 kind of put the quarterback run stuff on the back 0:58:48.538 --> 0:58:50.058 burner and to get him through the. 0:58:50.018 --> 0:58:51.658 Game could have run traditional runs. 0:58:51.738 --> 0:58:56.418 So that wasn't completely the Bills offense unleashed like we 0:58:56.458 --> 0:58:59.058 saw against the Rams and the Lions. That was sort 0:58:59.058 --> 0:59:01.258 of like a watered down version of the Bills offense. 0:59:01.298 --> 0:59:03.698 But I thought that was a big reason why they 0:59:03.698 --> 0:59:05.458 got off to such a bad start in this game 0:59:05.618 --> 0:59:07.778 was because they didn't really play their game. They sort 0:59:07.818 --> 0:59:10.178 of just put in the four corners offense and thought 0:59:10.218 --> 0:59:13.178 that they were gonna roll because the Patriots stink, you know, 0:59:13.258 --> 0:59:15.338 like and they they did in the second half to 0:59:16.218 --> 0:59:19.578 some degree, but still they left that door open to 0:59:19.578 --> 0:59:21.978 get upset in a game they had no business to lose, 0:59:22.418 --> 0:59:24.178 and a lot of that I felt like was on 0:59:24.218 --> 0:59:28.178 the quarterback and the offensive play caller a couple, you know. 0:59:28.218 --> 0:59:31.378 I thought that Rumandra Stevenson was another one that I considered. 0:59:31.738 --> 0:59:33.738 The reason why I didn't put Remandre on my list 0:59:33.818 --> 0:59:35.578 is because the fourteen yard touchdown run was. 0:59:35.578 --> 0:59:39.378 Just I considered not but I just with if it 0:59:39.418 --> 0:59:40.738 was like a second or third fund of the year, 0:59:40.738 --> 0:59:43.538 I probably wouldn't have, but yeah, because he has faster. 0:59:43.858 --> 0:59:48.538 Yep. 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All right, 1:00:45.458 --> 1:00:49.098 let's get to the phones here, Patty is an aguam. 1:00:49.138 --> 1:00:49.858 What's up? Patty? 1:00:51.898 --> 1:00:52.938 Hey guys, it's going on. 1:00:53.178 --> 1:00:54.218 Hey, what's up? 1:00:55.738 --> 1:00:58.258 So my question you were just talking about the guy 1:00:58.298 --> 1:01:01.218 I was gonna ask a question about, which is Remandre Stevenson. 1:01:02.778 --> 1:01:05.978 I know it's not really a team friendly contract, but 1:01:06.018 --> 1:01:08.618 it's a decent enough contract. Where do you guys think 1:01:09.658 --> 1:01:11.538 they have there's a chance that might move on from 1:01:11.578 --> 1:01:15.778 them after this year, do to his bumbling problems or 1:01:16.498 --> 1:01:17.738 or do you think they try and get him some 1:01:17.778 --> 1:01:20.018 help in the off season, Like I had the idea 1:01:20.978 --> 1:01:24.218 on John Rook Show on Tuesday, maybe looking them up 1:01:24.258 --> 1:01:27.618 with somebody like Peaky Barber who had bumbling problems early 1:01:27.658 --> 1:01:30.258 in his career. And then I don't know what he did, 1:01:30.298 --> 1:01:33.098 but like he shored it up, and that's all I got. 1:01:33.098 --> 1:01:36.818 I'll take it off the year, guys, and happy holidays. 1:01:36.258 --> 1:01:39.618 Man, Thanks Patty, thanks for the call. Yeah, and happy 1:01:39.658 --> 1:01:42.378 holidays to you too. Look, the Remondre thing is uh 1:01:42.578 --> 1:01:46.458 is a concern with the fumbles. It's not even early 1:01:46.498 --> 1:01:48.058 on in his career though, Like I feel like Tiki 1:01:48.098 --> 1:01:51.058 Barber was right out of the gate. Againmondre had as 1:01:51.138 --> 1:01:53.138 many fumbles in his first three years as he did 1:01:53.138 --> 1:01:54.978 this year. This is kind of new. Yeah, it's a 1:01:55.018 --> 1:01:57.698 new thing. I don't know what it is. You know, 1:01:57.778 --> 1:02:00.938 his running style, he does invite a crowd, and I 1:02:00.978 --> 1:02:03.818 think now people know that. So when you have two 1:02:03.858 --> 1:02:06.538 three guys around the ball, not everybody has to tackle him, 1:02:06.578 --> 1:02:08.738 so they some guys are going to start punching for 1:02:08.778 --> 1:02:11.778 the ball and start doing that sort of thing. I 1:02:12.178 --> 1:02:15.898 like Antonio Gibson, I do. I think Antonio Gibson's a solid, 1:02:16.018 --> 1:02:20.378 uh change of pace back. So I don't know what 1:02:20.418 --> 1:02:22.738 the answer is, Like maybe maybe you get a third 1:02:22.778 --> 1:02:25.378 running back in here. But you know, now you're really 1:02:25.458 --> 1:02:28.778 talking about replacing Ramandre Stevenson, hoping that that draft pick 1:02:28.858 --> 1:02:31.338 is better, you know, Like, I don't think that that's 1:02:31.418 --> 1:02:34.658 necessarily so much about helping him, Like I think Gibson's 1:02:34.698 --> 1:02:35.578 been enough of help. 1:02:36.338 --> 1:02:38.938 Yeah, it's it's he's already been a spellback. You're not 1:02:38.938 --> 1:02:40.738 gonna spell him anymore. He can't really get out of 1:02:40.738 --> 1:02:43.378 that contract. You're not gonna sit him on that contract. Yeah, 1:02:43.698 --> 1:02:46.058 he just has to work through it. Like he's gonna 1:02:46.058 --> 1:02:47.858 be here and after next year it's another conversation, but 1:02:47.858 --> 1:02:49.938 he's gonna be here next year, and there really is 1:02:50.058 --> 1:02:51.818 much of an option besides him working through it. 1:02:52.338 --> 1:02:55.258 Yeah, all right, Colleen is in Houston. What's up, Colleen? 1:02:57.298 --> 1:02:58.418 Hey, guys, can you hear me? 1:02:58.578 --> 1:02:59.178 Hey? Yes? 1:03:00.818 --> 1:03:01.298 Perfect? 1:03:01.458 --> 1:03:05.138 Okay, So I have a couple comments and then questions. 1:03:05.178 --> 1:03:09.978 So my comment is I would agree with Alex about 1:03:10.178 --> 1:03:16.098 like getting a winning record or not record, but oh, 1:03:16.138 --> 1:03:21.858 winning DNA is great. But if they win against Mitch Trubisky, 1:03:22.018 --> 1:03:28.338 who sucks like, that's not gonna give the locker room 1:03:28.418 --> 1:03:32.538 a boost anyway. But my question is, so you guys 1:03:32.618 --> 1:03:38.018 like Will Campbell, which is great, but he apparently is 1:03:38.178 --> 1:03:42.138 small arms, So how do you feel about Kelvin Banks? 1:03:42.378 --> 1:03:47.938 And then also, Joe Tooney is currently playing left tackle 1:03:48.418 --> 1:03:49.578 with short arms. 1:03:49.698 --> 1:03:50.818 How do you feel about that? 1:03:51.218 --> 1:03:54.538 Okay, thanks guys, Thanks Colin. I appreciate the call. And 1:03:54.818 --> 1:03:56.458 you know, to the Joe Touney thing, Joe Tony is 1:03:56.458 --> 1:03:58.658 like a cyborg. That guy's an alien. You can play 1:03:58.738 --> 1:04:00.298 him at left guard, you could play him at left 1:04:00.298 --> 1:04:01.938 tackle and he's gonna just block people. 1:04:01.978 --> 1:04:02.218 Yeah. 1:04:02.258 --> 1:04:04.418 And it's also I mean, he's been in the NFL 1:04:04.418 --> 1:04:06.458 for years and years and years. He knows how it works. 1:04:06.498 --> 1:04:08.938 He's not trying to make that jump like he's been 1:04:08.938 --> 1:04:10.498 blocking NFL rushers for a while. 1:04:10.578 --> 1:04:10.778 Yeah. 1:04:10.778 --> 1:04:12.858 I don't know what his arm length is exactly, just 1:04:12.858 --> 1:04:16.018 pulled up quarter okay, because he played tackle in college. Yeah, 1:04:16.058 --> 1:04:18.018 Joe Toney did, and then they moved him inside when 1:04:18.018 --> 1:04:20.818 he got to the NFL. Uh with Will Campbell in 1:04:20.858 --> 1:04:23.498 his arm length and you know, we'll see, we'll see 1:04:23.498 --> 1:04:25.658 what it is in Indie. I thought Calvin Banks showed 1:04:25.658 --> 1:04:28.618 really well against Clemson. Now Clemson was totally overmatched in 1:04:28.658 --> 1:04:29.018 that game. 1:04:29.538 --> 1:04:31.178 It's Clemson. They always have a good defense. 1:04:31.458 --> 1:04:33.698 And we'll get to the college football playoff here at 1:04:33.698 --> 1:04:35.138 a second, because I know we want to do those 1:04:35.178 --> 1:04:38.778 takes too. But look, we're gonna debate the Will Campbell 1:04:39.138 --> 1:04:42.858 short arm not short arm left tackle guard conversation for 1:04:42.978 --> 1:04:45.858 months and months and months, And at this point, he 1:04:45.858 --> 1:04:49.098 doesn't have any any film that I haven't seen, right, Like, 1:04:49.138 --> 1:04:51.138 there's no new film. I don't know. I think is 1:04:51.178 --> 1:04:53.778 he gonna play in their bowl game? I doubt it. 1:04:53.898 --> 1:04:55.778 Yeah, I think he already said he might have already 1:04:55.818 --> 1:04:56.858 said he's not, but I doubt it. 1:04:56.978 --> 1:04:58.658 Yeah, right, So, like there's not a ton of new 1:04:58.698 --> 1:05:02.098 film for him at this point, So it really comes 1:05:02.098 --> 1:05:04.978 down to what the measurements and what we see in Indianapolis. 1:05:04.978 --> 1:05:07.738 Like that the combine is gonna be the determining factor 1:05:07.738 --> 1:05:08.898 for him. And I thought it was interesting. 1:05:08.898 --> 1:05:11.738 Scott Peters said, was it last week that thirty three 1:05:11.738 --> 1:05:14.298 inches is not a definite cutoff? 1:05:14.378 --> 1:05:14.578 Yeah? 1:05:14.618 --> 1:05:16.738 Him, Like, you've got to be really good and know 1:05:16.818 --> 1:05:20.178 what you're doing if you're under thirty three. 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Your day is still going after this. 1:09:46.058 --> 1:09:48.817 I got one more show and then oh yeah, I'm 1:09:48.817 --> 1:09:49.137 a writer. 1:09:49.258 --> 1:09:52.937 I got it, hardest working guy in Boston. 1:09:53.018 --> 1:09:55.017 And then I'm on back on the radio ten am tomorrow. 1:09:55.138 --> 1:09:57.657 So I'm but but this is a big week for you. 1:09:57.857 --> 1:09:59.937 No, I love it, like I take you know what 1:10:00.018 --> 1:10:00.817 I do this all the time. 1:10:00.857 --> 1:10:03.537 Oh, poor Alex. She used to talk about football all day. 1:10:03.537 --> 1:10:06.817 What a toll life like? No, what you are doing 1:10:06.817 --> 1:10:07.897 the world smalest violin. 1:10:08.338 --> 1:10:10.338 I wouldn't trade it. Well, but I can admit that 1:10:10.418 --> 1:10:13.338 I like you, who genuinely complains, I wouldn't trade it. 1:10:13.378 --> 1:10:16.657 That being said, I cannot wait to like get a 1:10:16.697 --> 1:10:20.857 good like fifteen hours night of sleep the day like 1:10:21.178 --> 1:10:23.897 so the season ends, but like the seat when the 1:10:23.897 --> 1:10:26.497 seats and the season will end for us next Sunday. Right, yes, 1:10:26.497 --> 1:10:28.378 but that's not like when the season ends, because you 1:10:28.378 --> 1:10:31.378 have like it's usually not the whole week like Monday, Tuesday, 1:10:31.418 --> 1:10:34.177 Wednesday's recap stuff. You'll do like here's who they're playing 1:10:34.218 --> 1:10:37.097 next year, Here's who the free agents are, blah blah blah. 1:10:37.098 --> 1:10:40.737 But like that, honestly that Thursday will love the show. Yeah, 1:10:40.737 --> 1:10:43.338 and I'm probably gonna go home and sleep until the 1:10:43.338 --> 1:10:46.657 playoff games starts Saturday afternoon. I'll probably sleep until Saturday afternoon. 1:10:46.697 --> 1:10:50.418 I look, I get it, And yeah, you know, I'll 1:10:50.458 --> 1:10:53.857 still do like my film review on Monday from week eighteen, 1:10:53.937 --> 1:10:57.017 that will still do one. So really you're talking about 1:10:57.058 --> 1:11:00.938 like Tuesday or Wednesday for the season to officially the usually. 1:11:00.617 --> 1:11:02.897 Like Wednesday night, I'm starting to wrap it up. We 1:11:02.978 --> 1:11:04.857 have the show Thursday, so it's like yeah time. 1:11:05.098 --> 1:11:08.138 Yeah, that's true. Yeah, so maybe a Thursday when the 1:11:08.138 --> 1:11:13.017 show's over, nice, we'll both feel like it's uh and 1:11:13.058 --> 1:11:16.378 then I'll be in mobile like two weeks later. Right, 1:11:16.777 --> 1:11:17.657 it's not I think. 1:11:18.058 --> 1:11:20.338 I can't like, I can't rest for too long because 1:11:20.338 --> 1:11:21.897 then it gets st her crazy. Yeah, I need to 1:11:21.897 --> 1:11:24.617 do something, so like four or five days about where 1:11:24.617 --> 1:11:25.017 I'm at. 1:11:25.378 --> 1:11:28.577 Yeah, all right, back to football. Yeah, and I do 1:11:28.617 --> 1:11:30.458 want to talk a little bit of college football playoffs. 1:11:30.817 --> 1:11:32.897 And you said we had to do a segment on 1:11:32.897 --> 1:11:35.657 college football Playoffs. So here's our segment on it. I'm 1:11:35.657 --> 1:11:37.537 not gonna get on you about the fact that these 1:11:37.537 --> 1:11:38.737 games were not competitive. 1:11:39.018 --> 1:11:41.617 Can I say this, what a weird weekend for me 1:11:41.817 --> 1:11:44.937 because two of my big takes, especially on the show, 1:11:45.178 --> 1:11:48.857 are you underrate college football and you overrate Josh Allen. 1:11:49.218 --> 1:11:52.897 And I'm sitting there watching those games, like, man, this 1:11:53.497 --> 1:11:56.777 what a sucky weekend. None of these games are good. 1:11:57.058 --> 1:12:00.057 I gotta watch Josh Allen tear up the Patriots tomorrow. 1:12:00.138 --> 1:12:03.458 This just and then out of nowhere, Josh Allen just 1:12:03.777 --> 1:12:06.697 turns back into pre Brian Daveall Josh Allen. I'm like, 1:12:07.218 --> 1:12:09.777 all right, I kind of figured everything wasn't gonna go 1:12:09.897 --> 1:12:12.258 my way this weekend, but if that's the one that does, 1:12:12.298 --> 1:12:13.817 I will absolutely take that. 1:12:14.378 --> 1:12:17.258 A complete roller coaster of a weekend for me. So 1:12:17.657 --> 1:12:20.577 I'm texting you during the college football games on Saturday, 1:12:20.937 --> 1:12:23.537 just killing you about how you know, oh cool, we 1:12:23.617 --> 1:12:26.497 got to watch everybody get blown out by four touchdowns 1:12:26.537 --> 1:12:29.458 by much better teams. This was really fun. Really glad 1:12:29.458 --> 1:12:31.418 that we put you know some you in the college 1:12:31.458 --> 1:12:34.458 football playoffs, and Indiana like, good for you. You got 1:12:34.497 --> 1:12:37.617 your participation trophy. You deserve to be there. Well, there 1:12:37.697 --> 1:12:37.977 we go. 1:12:38.058 --> 1:12:39.777 Hang on, if you're gonna do that rant. First of all, 1:12:39.817 --> 1:12:42.097 Indiana had the closest game of any team in the playoffs. 1:12:42.138 --> 1:12:45.057 Oh but what was it? What was the final? Yeah 1:12:45.178 --> 1:12:47.418 it was ten points? But like not really? 1:12:47.458 --> 1:12:50.857 Okay, So you mentioned SMU. Okay, Kirk Kurbstreet and look, 1:12:50.897 --> 1:12:52.897 I love Kirk. I love Kirk, but I hate him 1:12:52.897 --> 1:12:55.737 and the rest of ESPN. He's spot on, he's he's 1:12:55.777 --> 1:12:58.298 being a company man for ESPN, but he's not. You 1:12:58.338 --> 1:13:03.017 mentioned ESPN or you mentioned SMU, you mentioned Indiana. You 1:13:03.058 --> 1:13:05.657 didn't mention the team that had the biggest loss of 1:13:05.697 --> 1:13:09.817 any this weekend. I wonder why that is. That's Tennessee. 1:13:10.298 --> 1:13:12.377 Oh that's sec Darling Tennessee. 1:13:12.458 --> 1:13:15.458 Okay, but they also played one of the best teams. 1:13:15.817 --> 1:13:17.737 They all played the best teams. It's the playoffs now, 1:13:18.378 --> 1:13:20.338 it's not the best teams. That's my point. 1:13:20.418 --> 1:13:23.577 They all played Penny State's not one of the best teams. 1:13:23.697 --> 1:13:27.818 Yes, but Notre Dame. I don't think was in the playoffs. 1:13:27.817 --> 1:13:31.617 Your argument, dissipation trophy, here's a ribbon. You made it. 1:13:31.657 --> 1:13:35.458 You deserve your argument the whole time. Why can't we 1:13:35.497 --> 1:13:37.057 get a big boy team like Alabama. 1:13:37.058 --> 1:13:37.817 In the playoff ye. 1:13:38.098 --> 1:13:42.178 Miss album, Alabama lost to Tennessee, who got spanked by 1:13:42.178 --> 1:13:42.697 old Miss. 1:13:42.737 --> 1:13:45.017 Okay, but I don't like that. It's not about the 1:13:45.298 --> 1:13:49.537 Alabama property. No, but it's not a transitive property. Because 1:13:50.697 --> 1:13:56.458 Alabama played Tennessee third Saturday in October. It's December. So 1:13:56.497 --> 1:14:00.018 you're telling me that Alabama hasn't gotten any better since October. 1:14:00.098 --> 1:14:02.817 No, they've actually pretty much gotten continually worse as the 1:14:02.857 --> 1:14:04.497 years GOO, as the year has gone on. It's been 1:14:04.577 --> 1:14:08.697 very concerning, frankly. But the point I'm making is what 1:14:08.817 --> 1:14:11.137 I think happened. I don't think it was about the teams, 1:14:11.378 --> 1:14:13.697 and it goes back to something we actually talked about. 1:14:13.458 --> 1:14:16.057 With Drake May. Yeah. There. 1:14:16.418 --> 1:14:19.138 I think there's never been games like this. This was 1:14:19.178 --> 1:14:23.217 the first on campus, true postseason game college football history 1:14:23.218 --> 1:14:24.298 since nineteen o two. 1:14:24.378 --> 1:14:27.737 It's a yeah, it is. 1:14:27.978 --> 1:14:30.178 It's I think the environments for too were too big, 1:14:30.218 --> 1:14:32.418 and for a team like SMU. I think for a 1:14:32.458 --> 1:14:35.857 team like Tennessee the cold, that Tennessee team was not 1:14:35.897 --> 1:14:37.097 ready to go in that environment. 1:14:37.458 --> 1:14:39.857 I can't believe you're blaming a bunch of children, a 1:14:39.897 --> 1:14:40.218 bunch of. 1:14:40.258 --> 1:14:44.938 Eighteen Well, it's a lot for kids to handle. And ultimately, 1:14:44.978 --> 1:14:46.537 you know what, it's gonna be a good thing for 1:14:46.577 --> 1:14:49.537 the NFL because when we talk about a rookie quarterback 1:14:49.577 --> 1:14:52.178 first time in this environment, what's gonna be like, Like 1:14:52.418 --> 1:14:55.057 Nico's gonna be from Tennessee's gonna be an NFL quarterback 1:14:55.058 --> 1:14:56.098 at some point. I know he had a bad game, 1:14:56.098 --> 1:14:58.777 He's gonna be a NFL quarterback. His first playoff game 1:14:59.138 --> 1:15:01.058 is gonna be a lot easier. Haven't been to the 1:15:01.058 --> 1:15:04.298 shoe for what that was, so I don't And and 1:15:04.338 --> 1:15:06.697 it also we're gonna talk about, well, playoff caliber game 1:15:06.777 --> 1:15:10.097 should be close. The NFL had a pair of whatever 1:15:10.178 --> 1:15:12.097 essentially playoff matchups this weekend. 1:15:12.378 --> 1:15:15.657 How close were those games? So were the first round 1:15:15.657 --> 1:15:19.338 games duds? Absolutely? Absolutely they were? And you know what, Frank, 1:15:20.537 --> 1:15:22.977 it's probably good. It's probably gonna be that way for 1:15:23.018 --> 1:15:25.218 the next few years. I don't think. I don't think 1:15:25.218 --> 1:15:25.937 it wasn't worth it. 1:15:25.937 --> 1:15:28.697 All it was because here's the thing. I don't think 1:15:28.697 --> 1:15:30.098 we'll get all four being duds all the time. But 1:15:30.098 --> 1:15:31.697 there's gonn be duds in there, because that's what happens 1:15:31.697 --> 1:15:33.977 in the playoffs. It happens in the NFL. The average 1:15:34.018 --> 1:15:37.537 scoring margin for the first round was only two points 1:15:37.577 --> 1:15:39.617 higher than it was for wild Card weekend last year. 1:15:39.897 --> 1:15:41.577 And don't tell me that it's called because that one 1:15:41.577 --> 1:15:45.977 blowout because the Cowboys Packers blowing out the Cowboys. Cowboys 1:15:45.978 --> 1:15:48.937 scored two garbage time touchdowns. The other thing is the 1:15:48.937 --> 1:15:50.897 the round of eight games are gonna be awesome, Like 1:15:51.218 --> 1:15:54.218 Oregon Ohio State to me is the national championship. And 1:15:54.497 --> 1:15:55.817 I think you said that too. 1:15:55.817 --> 1:15:58.057 Which I don't like because that game is it's only 1:15:58.058 --> 1:16:01.338 a quarterfinal game. Oh but that that happens all the time? 1:16:01.338 --> 1:16:03.857 How many times? But Oregon Ohio State to me like that, 1:16:05.018 --> 1:16:08.338 it just feels like that should be a game that 1:16:08.458 --> 1:16:10.458 was played later on in this playoff and it's not 1:16:10.537 --> 1:16:13.897 because of the format of the bye weeks for teams 1:16:13.937 --> 1:16:17.657 like Arizona States. That doesn't the other team that has 1:16:17.697 --> 1:16:22.418 the buy that shouldn't BYU no boise boise I received, 1:16:22.697 --> 1:16:24.977 I would receve I know where BYU came, I would. 1:16:24.817 --> 1:16:26.617 Receed after the first round because they were supposed to 1:16:26.617 --> 1:16:27.937 be in it. They're supposed to win the Big twelve. 1:16:28.537 --> 1:16:33.458 I think that if that happs all how many times? 1:16:33.857 --> 1:16:36.297 Okay, but if they didn't have a bye. These stupid 1:16:36.338 --> 1:16:38.617 bye week set up right where it's not done by 1:16:38.657 --> 1:16:40.857 the seed, it's done by winning your conference. Just just 1:16:40.937 --> 1:16:42.458 let me finish it. If they don't. If they didn't 1:16:42.497 --> 1:16:45.977 have that, then teams like Ohio State, like Ohio State 1:16:46.058 --> 1:16:47.817 would have been one of the top four teams. 1:16:48.338 --> 1:16:51.137 They finished ranked fifth. 1:16:51.178 --> 1:16:53.138 I think they finished Okay, Well, then they're still not 1:16:53.178 --> 1:16:56.098 playing Oregon, is my point. No, you're not getting the 1:16:56.098 --> 1:16:57.337 two best teams in the playoffs. 1:16:57.338 --> 1:17:00.137 And I would go back to the original seeding after 1:17:00.178 --> 1:17:02.138 the first round. That is a change they should make. 1:17:02.418 --> 1:17:04.937 I do like the winning your conference having a bye 1:17:05.018 --> 1:17:08.258 because it makes winning your conference worth something, which I 1:17:08.338 --> 1:17:11.297 think is important because it keeps the regular season relevant. 1:17:11.657 --> 1:17:15.777 But like, how many times did the Patriots did Brady 1:17:15.777 --> 1:17:18.017 and Manning meet in the divisional round? And you know, 1:17:18.338 --> 1:17:20.258 like when he was with the Broncos and there were 1:17:20.258 --> 1:17:24.017 those Andrew Locke no Defense Colts teams that were still 1:17:24.058 --> 1:17:26.697 getting to the AFC Championship, but we knew Brady Manning 1:17:26.737 --> 1:17:28.737 in the divisional round, like yeah, this is this is it, 1:17:28.937 --> 1:17:30.138 and we didn't complain about it. 1:17:30.138 --> 1:17:32.018 I think it happened. I think Brady Manning and the 1:17:32.058 --> 1:17:32.817 division around happened. 1:17:33.018 --> 1:17:34.378 That happened, but there were a number of other There 1:17:34.378 --> 1:17:36.057 were sometimes when they met the Ravens in the division, 1:17:36.258 --> 1:17:38.657 it happened with the Ravens and Reknew like, all right, 1:17:38.817 --> 1:17:41.497 and you had the t Bow Broncos or whatever in 1:17:41.537 --> 1:17:43.857 the next round. It was like, I that's just kind 1:17:43.857 --> 1:17:45.617 of how these things work. I don't really care where 1:17:45.657 --> 1:17:48.057 the game happens. As long as it happens. There's gonna 1:17:48.058 --> 1:17:49.617 be some other games in this next round two that 1:17:49.657 --> 1:17:52.657 are good for reasons that we don't need to spend 1:17:52.697 --> 1:17:54.857 a ton of time on. You were never going to 1:17:54.857 --> 1:17:57.777 get eight teams. It was going to be four, twelve 1:17:57.937 --> 1:18:01.338 or sixteen. Sixteen is too many. We all know four 1:18:01.458 --> 1:18:04.338 was not enough. I will pay what's eight? What's wrong 1:18:04.378 --> 1:18:07.897 with eight? It has to do with you have to 1:18:08.218 --> 1:18:10.178 the SEC and Big ten kind of run it. But 1:18:10.218 --> 1:18:12.217 you do have to get the other conference on board 1:18:12.258 --> 1:18:15.177 to a certain extent, and the limited at large bids 1:18:15.218 --> 1:18:17.937 they didn't feel like they would get properly represented, and 1:18:17.937 --> 1:18:19.297 blah blah blah blah blah. 1:18:19.338 --> 1:18:22.617 This is college football's problem. It's this is it right here? 1:18:22.657 --> 1:18:25.057 That's the crux of the problem is that this is all. 1:18:25.497 --> 1:18:28.777 At some respect, this is because and I get it, 1:18:29.058 --> 1:18:32.298 but at some in some points, this is a participation 1:18:32.418 --> 1:18:36.178 trophy because there's so much money to be made for 1:18:36.218 --> 1:18:39.298 a program like SMU from being in this game, or 1:18:39.338 --> 1:18:41.817 a program like Indiana that's trying to be up and 1:18:41.817 --> 1:18:44.298 coming and is trying to build. Like, there's so much 1:18:44.338 --> 1:18:46.977 at stake for those types of teams to be included 1:18:47.018 --> 1:18:50.497 in the playoff that it becomes a situation of we're 1:18:50.537 --> 1:18:52.737 just putting this team in the playoff because they have 1:18:52.777 --> 1:18:56.058 the resume for it, but also because we want to partu. 1:18:55.978 --> 1:18:59.497 Q March madness. We celebrate cinderellas. Why can't we do 1:18:59.537 --> 1:19:00.137 that here. 1:18:59.978 --> 1:19:02.578 Because there aren't going to be any cinderellas. 1:19:02.058 --> 1:19:04.177 Until there is. It took how many years for sixteen 1:19:04.178 --> 1:19:05.777 to be to one? They said, what never happened a sixteen? 1:19:06.178 --> 1:19:07.857 No, but I wish not to give you that. 1:19:08.817 --> 1:19:11.218 I will give you this it eventually it will because 1:19:11.218 --> 1:19:13.617 they'll they'll see it wrong. It would be a twelve 1:19:13.657 --> 1:19:18.537 that should be at twelve. I think college football's biggest 1:19:18.537 --> 1:19:21.458 strength and its biggest weakness are the same thing, which 1:19:21.497 --> 1:19:26.298 is there is basically no overarching governing body in some 1:19:26.458 --> 1:19:29.458 ways that makes call because, like the NFL, a lot 1:19:29.458 --> 1:19:31.577 of the issues with the NFL there's a lot of 1:19:31.697 --> 1:19:34.497 uniformity to it. Yeah, and the college football does not 1:19:34.537 --> 1:19:37.297 have uniformity. And in some ways that's a big strength, 1:19:37.338 --> 1:19:39.338 but in an instance like this, it's a big weakness. 1:19:39.378 --> 1:19:42.217 I don't think the playoffs perfect. I don't think four 1:19:42.298 --> 1:19:45.177 bad games it's unfortunate, but I don't think four bad 1:19:45.218 --> 1:19:48.337 games off the jump are enough to damn the whole tournament. 1:19:48.737 --> 1:19:52.817 Okay. So that being said, the other big l let's 1:19:52.817 --> 1:19:55.338 get into some draft stuff. Yeah, I have a I 1:19:55.458 --> 1:19:58.177 might have a very hot draft take on the playoff 1:19:58.258 --> 1:20:00.218 that you're either gonna love or hate. Okay. So the 1:20:00.258 --> 1:20:02.577 other big element of this is obviously what I'm doing, 1:20:02.617 --> 1:20:04.937 which is watching these games for the purposes of the 1:20:05.018 --> 1:20:08.137 draft and evaluating guys in the draft. The two biggest 1:20:08.138 --> 1:20:10.258 takeaways that I have in this game wasn't a big 1:20:10.298 --> 1:20:13.977 Abdul Carter week. I didn't feel like but I watched 1:20:13.978 --> 1:20:15.497 some of the film back and it seemed like he 1:20:15.577 --> 1:20:16.657 was better on film than they. 1:20:16.697 --> 1:20:21.697 Was watchin smu to a fault made a point in 1:20:21.737 --> 1:20:24.178 that game of saying we're not gonna go near Abdul Carter. 1:20:24.378 --> 1:20:26.737 Yeah and yeah, I mean I understand why they did it, 1:20:26.817 --> 1:20:28.897 but they had when he needed to show up, he 1:20:28.937 --> 1:20:30.897 showed up. So they had four trips to the red zone. 1:20:31.018 --> 1:20:33.258 That should have been a close game because they had 1:20:33.258 --> 1:20:35.378 four trips to When I say that that, I don't 1:20:35.378 --> 1:20:38.338 mean like they had four trips to the red zone. Yes, 1:20:38.418 --> 1:20:42.178 they scored three total points. Okay, Penn State's defense came up. 1:20:42.338 --> 1:20:42.458 Oh. 1:20:42.497 --> 1:20:43.937 Sorry, one more thing before we get to the draft. 1:20:44.218 --> 1:20:46.698 Kurt Signetti, Indiana, what do you think of that punt. 1:20:47.138 --> 1:20:48.697 The fourth and nine? I think that guy's a kook. 1:20:49.138 --> 1:20:52.577 That's your national coach of the year. Yeah, consensus national 1:20:52.577 --> 1:20:55.378 coach here. You don't think Bill Belichick's gonna run circles 1:20:55.418 --> 1:20:55.977 through this thing. 1:20:56.617 --> 1:20:58.497 He's doing well in the portal. Anyway, back to the draft, 1:20:58.537 --> 1:21:04.218 Abdual North Carolina Football. I can't wait Abdull Carter. So 1:21:04.298 --> 1:21:07.657 I thought Abdul Carter looked better than I was expecting. 1:21:07.697 --> 1:21:11.058 And I agree with your general premise that do you 1:21:11.218 --> 1:21:14.137 big game planned obviously for a guy like Abdill Carter 1:21:14.218 --> 1:21:16.338 and sort of or saying we are not going to 1:21:16.458 --> 1:21:19.338 let him take over the game. And although that might 1:21:19.418 --> 1:21:21.937 hurt his you know, down to down production a little 1:21:21.978 --> 1:21:25.617 bit like that's in itself. The case to draft him, 1:21:25.697 --> 1:21:28.577 right is that he is a game planned player. He's 1:21:28.617 --> 1:21:31.177 a Tuesday player that you have to then go out 1:21:31.218 --> 1:21:35.497 and devise a blocking plan, a pass blocking plan for 1:21:35.617 --> 1:21:38.178 how are we going to take, you know, prevent him 1:21:38.178 --> 1:21:42.897 from taking over games. That opens up opportunities for other people. Now, 1:21:43.138 --> 1:21:46.017 Christian Barmore eats Kean White, eats you know whatever. Like 1:21:46.058 --> 1:21:48.378 I'm just using Patriots for an again, and I'll just 1:21:48.418 --> 1:21:48.777 add this. 1:21:48.897 --> 1:21:53.097 And obviously everybody saw what he did on Saturday going 1:21:53.138 --> 1:21:57.577 into that game. Yeah, abdul Carter, not Abdul Carter, Kevin Jennings, 1:21:57.577 --> 1:22:00.697 one of the Heisman favorites for next year. And I 1:22:00.697 --> 1:22:03.617 don't look like correct response. And I think some of 1:22:03.617 --> 1:22:05.218 that was the moment was just too big for me 1:22:05.218 --> 1:22:07.298 and he needs to grow. But part of it he's 1:22:07.338 --> 1:22:10.657 incredibly mobile. He's incredibly good getting around the pocket. So 1:22:10.697 --> 1:22:12.857 they had a guy that kind of could counter Abdul 1:22:12.897 --> 1:22:15.017 Carter and they just said, nevermind, we're not gonna touch him. 1:22:15.098 --> 1:22:18.378 Yeah, they were afraid of him. I would say that 1:22:18.378 --> 1:22:21.338 that's the least my takeaway from it. I'm just pulling 1:22:21.418 --> 1:22:24.218 up real quick. His actual pressure is because I think 1:22:24.218 --> 1:22:27.418 that they were better than maybe what people would have 1:22:27.458 --> 1:22:29.897 expected watching live in that game. 1:22:30.098 --> 1:22:34.218 Yeah, you think he was the best, And we'll get 1:22:34.258 --> 1:22:35.697 to Kelvin Banks. I want to put the cap on, 1:22:35.737 --> 1:22:37.777 which is what we stall here, and look it up. 1:22:38.138 --> 1:22:39.817 Did you think he was the best of like the 1:22:39.817 --> 1:22:40.817 top of the draft guys? 1:22:40.857 --> 1:22:42.218 No, so I was actually going to get to that. 1:22:42.577 --> 1:22:47.338 So Abdual Carter in this game against four pressures? Yeah, 1:22:47.378 --> 1:22:50.817 four pressures? So oh no, sorry, five pressures. So it's 1:22:50.777 --> 1:22:53.657 still pretty good, right, I mean like it was definitely 1:22:53.657 --> 1:22:55.857 one of those games where you had to watch, Yeah, 1:22:55.857 --> 1:22:57.617 and you're not going to look at the box score 1:22:57.657 --> 1:22:59.937 and say, oh, Abdul Carter had a huge game, but 1:23:00.298 --> 1:23:03.458 I'm expecting him to continue to pop and he just 1:23:04.258 --> 1:23:06.298 look when you're trying to stack this board and we're 1:23:06.298 --> 1:23:08.777 trying to figure out who are just the best overall 1:23:08.937 --> 1:23:12.657 talents in this draft. I still think Travis Hunter is 1:23:12.737 --> 1:23:14.737 on a planet of his own in terms of pure 1:23:14.777 --> 1:23:17.937 talent on a football field, But I feel like Abdull 1:23:17.978 --> 1:23:19.977 Carter is in that next thing you have to talk 1:23:20.018 --> 1:23:22.298 about Abdul Carter, Yeah, Like you absolutely have to talk 1:23:22.338 --> 1:23:26.177 about him. That being said, I thought Kelvin Banks was awesome. 1:23:26.897 --> 1:23:29.897 I thought he was really really good. His run blocking 1:23:29.937 --> 1:23:32.338 continues to be his best trait to me. He's a 1:23:32.378 --> 1:23:36.777 people moving run blocker. It's not necessarily like dominant like J. C. 1:23:37.018 --> 1:23:39.657 Latham man strength, you know, like it's not necessarily that. 1:23:40.258 --> 1:23:43.458 But he's just very, very good in the running game. 1:23:43.857 --> 1:23:45.857 And they do a lot of different things with Sark 1:23:45.937 --> 1:23:48.017 in the run game and move their tackles a lot 1:23:48.138 --> 1:23:50.537 and ask him to make some high level blocks that 1:23:50.617 --> 1:23:52.537 he's gonna have to make at the NFL level, So 1:23:52.577 --> 1:23:57.418 there's translatable stuff there. I look, I'm I'm weary of 1:23:57.458 --> 1:24:00.097 the both these tackles for different reasons. You know, Campbell 1:24:00.098 --> 1:24:02.897 obviously has the length issue, and Kelvin Banks I don't 1:24:02.937 --> 1:24:05.897 think is quite as nimble as his feet in pass 1:24:05.937 --> 1:24:09.057 protection as I would want my left tackle to be ideally. 1:24:09.737 --> 1:24:12.258 But he's he's a talent, you know, he's a really 1:24:12.298 --> 1:24:16.737 really good football player, and I'm starting to come around 1:24:16.857 --> 1:24:18.737 to him if he plays like this the rest of 1:24:18.777 --> 1:24:22.017 the playoff. Now, Will Campbell doesn't have this opportunity, right Like, 1:24:22.058 --> 1:24:24.137 he doesn't have the opportunity to play in the playoff 1:24:24.178 --> 1:24:26.897 and show out. But if Kelvin Banks plays this way 1:24:26.978 --> 1:24:28.697 the rest of the playoffs, and I think there's gonna 1:24:28.737 --> 1:24:31.817 be a lot of OT one conversations that he's going 1:24:31.857 --> 1:24:33.577 to be the clear cut number one time and. 1:24:33.537 --> 1:24:38.258 He's got So they have Arizona State, which is. 1:24:38.817 --> 1:24:41.218 Uh, might as well be a double A team. 1:24:41.537 --> 1:24:43.657 No, they have some NFL talented out that he's gonna 1:24:43.657 --> 1:24:45.418 be going up again, so that that one doesn't help 1:24:45.458 --> 1:24:47.857 him a ton. Assuming they win, though, they get Ohio 1:24:47.937 --> 1:24:50.218 State of Oregon, and he is going to have a 1:24:50.338 --> 1:24:52.657 chance to make some serious money. It's gonna be the 1:24:52.657 --> 1:24:54.577 Cotton Bowl. Yeah, he's going to have a chance to 1:24:54.577 --> 1:24:58.137 make some serious, serious money in that game. I don't 1:24:58.138 --> 1:24:59.617 know if you want to talk about any of the 1:24:59.657 --> 1:25:00.218 other top guys. 1:25:00.657 --> 1:25:03.697 Yeah, I was just curious now because I obviously was 1:25:03.737 --> 1:25:06.378 watching those two specifically. Is there anybody else that stood 1:25:06.378 --> 1:25:08.897 out to you from the this weekend past weekend? 1:25:09.058 --> 1:25:11.697 Uh, there weren't a ton of guys going at least 1:25:11.697 --> 1:25:13.777 from the top of the board. There's mid level guys. 1:25:14.178 --> 1:25:16.737 Tyler Warren had a good game against SMU. Yeah, you know, 1:25:16.777 --> 1:25:19.257 I'm interested to see the Georgia. The Georgia pass rushers. 1:25:19.258 --> 1:25:22.177 Obviously we didn't see them. They had the buye. 1:25:22.657 --> 1:25:25.257 I would love to see Banks get another crack at Georgia. 1:25:25.418 --> 1:25:26.418 I would too. 1:25:26.657 --> 1:25:28.777 Yeah, here's kind of where my hot take was. This 1:25:28.857 --> 1:25:31.178 is more league league take, but this could impact the 1:25:31.218 --> 1:25:33.697 Patriots especially. We talked about what might happen if they 1:25:33.697 --> 1:25:35.737 win another game in the draft, and it's a two 1:25:35.817 --> 1:25:38.418 quarterback draft right now, right so you figure one two 1:25:38.418 --> 1:25:42.017 when it's gonna be Giants Raiders if that honestly him 1:25:42.058 --> 1:25:44.977 Ward's playing in the pop Tart Bowl, which is kind 1:25:44.978 --> 1:25:45.697 of surprising you. 1:25:46.777 --> 1:25:50.577 I do love the pop Tart pole, the pop. 1:25:50.378 --> 1:25:53.178 Tart, It's an edible mascot. What's not to love? 1:25:53.537 --> 1:25:54.577 What flavor are you picking? 1:25:54.617 --> 1:25:57.937 So the MVP of the winning team, there's three flavors 1:25:57.937 --> 1:25:59.617 this year, gets to pick the flavor. 1:25:59.418 --> 1:26:02.737 Brown cinnamon, sugar. I'm a classic pop tart guy. I 1:26:02.937 --> 1:26:05.098 I I do like s'mores a lot too, Like if 1:26:05.098 --> 1:26:07.218 I had to, you know, Smores is a great pop tart, 1:26:07.577 --> 1:26:11.137 But I'm a classic brown cinnamon and sugar pop tart guy. 1:26:12.098 --> 1:26:18.378 This year, wild berry hot fudge Sunday, Come on, I 1:26:18.378 --> 1:26:20.937 thought they were There was a oh, frosted cinnon roll 1:26:21.018 --> 1:26:22.697 is the mystery flavor. 1:26:22.458 --> 1:26:24.817 Of course, freaking gen z Man. They just gotta make 1:26:24.857 --> 1:26:27.338 everything like, can we just go back to the classics? 1:26:27.537 --> 1:26:29.338 Can we go back to brown cinnamon sugar? And can 1:26:29.378 --> 1:26:32.178 we go get s'mores up there? Because frosted cinnamon role, 1:26:32.178 --> 1:26:34.937 that's brown cinnamon sugar single. They have to call it 1:26:35.018 --> 1:26:37.857 frosted cinnamon role now because brown cinnamon sugar is not 1:26:37.897 --> 1:26:40.218 a cool enough name for it, so they yes, they 1:26:40.258 --> 1:26:41.418 have to spice up the name. 1:26:41.497 --> 1:26:44.417 That's what go back to the take. Let's say Patriots 1:26:44.458 --> 1:26:46.737 win another game, right, they moved down a little bit? 1:26:46.857 --> 1:26:47.097 Yep? 1:26:48.218 --> 1:26:50.777 Could they still be in a position where teams trying 1:26:50.777 --> 1:26:52.178 to move up for quarterback. 1:26:52.058 --> 1:26:54.577 Or maybe even maybe even they. 1:26:54.617 --> 1:26:56.458 End up like thirty four, a team's trying to move 1:26:56.537 --> 1:26:58.458 up into a Will Levis where, Yeah, we think this 1:26:58.537 --> 1:26:59.897 guy might be the guy, but we don't want to 1:26:59.897 --> 1:27:00.897 bet our first round pipon us. 1:27:00.897 --> 1:27:02.097 We're gonna get him the top of the second. 1:27:02.218 --> 1:27:06.897 Yeah, how did you feel about Will Howard's performance on 1:27:07.018 --> 1:27:07.697 Saturday Night? 1:27:08.138 --> 1:27:11.497 Didn't love it? I love him as a prospect. 1:27:11.537 --> 1:27:14.697 I thought he's pretty good. Ohio State's quarterbacks. 1:27:14.298 --> 1:27:17.297 Are being yeah, yeah, yeah, he's had a really good 1:27:17.737 --> 1:27:21.097 close to the season. I probably can't. He was awful 1:27:21.138 --> 1:27:21.937 against Michigan. 1:27:22.897 --> 1:27:24.057 He was terrible against Michigan. 1:27:24.138 --> 1:27:26.737 But besides that, he played well down the stretch. Here's 1:27:26.737 --> 1:27:29.458 my point. So using the big board that we use 1:27:29.537 --> 1:27:31.418 right now, here are the guy that he is right 1:27:31.458 --> 1:27:35.258 around or behind? Okay, tell me how many of these 1:27:35.298 --> 1:27:38.258 guys you think he can realistically jump. Kyle McCord from Syracuse. 1:27:38.497 --> 1:27:39.897 Oh yeah, definitely can jump. 1:27:40.178 --> 1:27:41.458 Riley Leonard from Notre Dame. 1:27:41.697 --> 1:27:44.938 Oh god, he's still geez. Yes, he's just glorified. 1:27:45.338 --> 1:27:47.177 What's his name from Texas? He played for the Colts, 1:27:47.617 --> 1:27:49.817 Cole McCoy. No, Sam Allinger? 1:27:49.978 --> 1:27:50.218 Sam? 1:27:50.418 --> 1:27:52.458 Okay, So that's who's behind him. This is on the 1:27:52.458 --> 1:27:55.618 big board. Yeah, Jylen Milroe. 1:27:55.897 --> 1:27:57.937 See, that was the one that I was gonna mention. 1:27:58.258 --> 1:28:02.418 Yeah, because he's done the Hayes in the barn with him. 1:28:02.537 --> 1:28:04.777 Yes, I doubt he's gonna play the game. I don't 1:28:04.777 --> 1:28:07.897 think he's gonna right, he can't. Well, he won't play 1:28:07.897 --> 1:28:09.697 in the bowl game. Now. You know Bryce Young played 1:28:09.697 --> 1:28:12.057 in the Sugar Bowl. Yeah, a couple of years ago. 1:28:13.298 --> 1:28:16.017 That was a huge game for Bryce Young. No, yeah, 1:28:16.058 --> 1:28:19.258 that's true. He lit Kansas State on fire. He had 1:28:19.258 --> 1:28:21.298 a huge, huge game that was probably the game that 1:28:21.378 --> 1:28:26.618 made it consensus number one overall. Pick. Maybe Jayleen Milroe. 1:28:26.897 --> 1:28:28.418 I don't know if he was on that team, like 1:28:28.458 --> 1:28:32.217 as a backup or anything like that, but maybe Philip 1:28:32.338 --> 1:28:36.017 Leaves follows a similar game plan. Milroe, though, I think, 1:28:36.138 --> 1:28:39.138 is the one to me that I would maybe take 1:28:39.178 --> 1:28:39.617 a chance on. 1:28:39.937 --> 1:28:41.497 Jayalen Miller is playing the Bowl game. 1:28:41.537 --> 1:28:44.977 Actually, Okay, I'm not surprised because I I guys have, 1:28:45.298 --> 1:28:48.617 especially at that position, have really really helped their stock 1:28:48.817 --> 1:28:49.897 in the in the bowl games. 1:28:49.897 --> 1:28:51.577 All right, I'll give you a couple more here. Play 1:28:51.577 --> 1:28:54.618 maybe Milroe Michigan's rematch of the National Championship. 1:28:54.657 --> 1:28:57.057 I feel like that is in the because Michigan's defense 1:28:57.138 --> 1:29:00.817 is still good and Michigan's defense still, like schematically is, 1:29:01.058 --> 1:29:03.338 is creative and uh, you know, it can do some 1:29:03.418 --> 1:29:06.537 different things that NFL teams do. So like you still 1:29:06.537 --> 1:29:09.817 go into that game thinking that you're playing a pseudo 1:29:10.657 --> 1:29:13.977 legit defense and if he puts up numbers, then that's 1:29:14.018 --> 1:29:14.577 gonna help him. 1:29:14.777 --> 1:29:17.777 Last year, Michigan Alabama's national championship. This year it is 1:29:17.817 --> 1:29:20.218 the Relyaquest Bowl, formerly the Outback Bowl. 1:29:20.218 --> 1:29:21.017 Okay, so you think. 1:29:20.897 --> 1:29:24.097 Maybe Will Howard, now there's no more outa anymore, maybe 1:29:24.178 --> 1:29:25.937 Jalen Mirrow finishes that. I know, you usuld to get 1:29:25.937 --> 1:29:30.897 free blooming onions like that. Carson, I think without an elbow. 1:29:31.018 --> 1:29:36.058 I think Carson best going on draft, I think so yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:29:35.857 --> 1:29:41.098 Quin yours, quin yours or Will Howard quin yours? 1:29:41.138 --> 1:29:44.458 Really? You know, I don't like quin yours. I want 1:29:44.697 --> 1:29:44.897 just a. 1:29:44.978 --> 1:29:49.418 More physically built so Will Howard six four to two 1:29:49.458 --> 1:29:49.937 thirty five. 1:29:50.098 --> 1:29:53.217 Yeah, I don't know. Man, he played awful against Michigan 1:29:53.258 --> 1:29:54.777 and I can't get that out of my head. All right. 1:29:55.298 --> 1:29:58.217 That's the thing about the playoffs against Oregon. I organize 1:29:58.258 --> 1:29:58.977 a very good defense. 1:29:59.058 --> 1:30:01.497 I still feel like, and I understand that. You know, 1:30:01.537 --> 1:30:06.617 in hindsight, that was a really talented Texas offense last year. Yeah, 1:30:06.657 --> 1:30:08.897 but really, when you think about it, like, it's not 1:30:09.058 --> 1:30:11.458 like Xavier Worthy or eighty Mitchell's really lit the world 1:30:11.497 --> 1:30:13.577 on fire on the NFL either, you know what I mean? 1:30:13.697 --> 1:30:15.737 So you could go both ways with that. And I 1:30:15.777 --> 1:30:18.857 do think that some teams are eight team will convince themselves, 1:30:18.857 --> 1:30:21.258 not like top ten pick or anything, but I think 1:30:21.298 --> 1:30:24.017 eight team will convince themselves that they can get last 1:30:24.058 --> 1:30:25.697 year's Quene Wars right right. 1:30:25.857 --> 1:30:27.897 And then the last one ahead of him is Jackson Dark. 1:30:29.657 --> 1:30:31.617 Yeah. Jackson I feel like is more of like a 1:30:31.657 --> 1:30:33.897 folk hero than he is a quarterback across. That is 1:30:33.937 --> 1:30:35.937 a great way to put it. He's a college quarterback. 1:30:36.018 --> 1:30:39.218 Yeah, So all right, maybe Jalen Milroe maybe put in yours. 1:30:39.258 --> 1:30:42.577 I will say, Will Howard is going to Senior Bowl. Okay, 1:30:42.617 --> 1:30:45.777 so we will have that one of Maybe it's yours, 1:30:45.817 --> 1:30:49.017 then maybe it's Howard, maybe it's Milroe in the Relyaquest Bowl. 1:30:49.418 --> 1:30:52.017 I'm still not locking in this being a two quarterback draft. 1:30:52.018 --> 1:30:54.657 If Will Howard plays well in this playoff, and that's 1:30:54.697 --> 1:30:56.178 the thing for I guess it is true for you 1:30:56.258 --> 1:30:58.697 or to yours too. But you look at it. What 1:30:58.857 --> 1:31:01.737 Will Howard will have had to have done? Blown out 1:31:01.777 --> 1:31:05.817 Tennessee and he put up numbers against an SEC defense 1:31:05.817 --> 1:31:07.937 twenty four to twenty nine, three hundred eleven yards. 1:31:07.697 --> 1:31:08.458 Two touchdowns. 1:31:08.737 --> 1:31:11.338 He will have blown out in SEC defense. He will 1:31:11.338 --> 1:31:13.378 have beat the number one team in the country in Oregon, 1:31:13.378 --> 1:31:16.137 which is another number one defense, another top defense. Yeah, 1:31:16.218 --> 1:31:19.218 all odds are unless Arizona State pulls off something spectacular, 1:31:19.218 --> 1:31:22.737 he'll beat Texas. That'll be his second SEC win and 1:31:22.737 --> 1:31:24.418 then if he gets one more win, now he gets 1:31:24.418 --> 1:31:26.777 throw that national champion tag on top of it. I'm 1:31:26.777 --> 1:31:29.018 not saying that he's gonna be a great NFL quarterback, 1:31:29.258 --> 1:31:31.977 but isn't that kind of resume teams are looking for 1:31:32.018 --> 1:31:33.058 when they draft. 1:31:32.737 --> 1:31:35.897 The guy sounds JJ McCarthy, JJ. 1:31:35.777 --> 1:31:38.937 McCarthy, Jac Jones. Yeah, and maybe that's who he is 1:31:38.978 --> 1:31:41.338 in the NFL, but we know teams make wrong picks 1:31:41.378 --> 1:31:44.177 all the time. So I just I think Will Howard 1:31:44.178 --> 1:31:47.137 has some room to rise, which could be and maybe 1:31:47.218 --> 1:31:49.017 Jalen Milroe does too. We can throw them this take. 1:31:49.777 --> 1:31:52.218 That is a factor when we talk about if the 1:31:52.218 --> 1:31:54.617 Patriots win another game where their pick is, because maybe 1:31:54.657 --> 1:31:57.017 there's a third quarterback that's not going third like last 1:31:57.058 --> 1:31:59.617 year one, two, three, but maybe fifth, sixth, seventh, the 1:31:59.657 --> 1:32:01.298 team's moving up to take them. 1:32:01.338 --> 1:32:03.937 So I like Milroe a little bit, and I don't 1:32:03.937 --> 1:32:07.097 meet the stereotype, but like there's obviously the Jalen Hurts thing. Yeah, 1:32:07.338 --> 1:32:11.178 and I see some of that comparison with with with Milroe. 1:32:11.258 --> 1:32:14.418 I also think that as a passer he got better 1:32:14.458 --> 1:32:14.857 this year. 1:32:14.937 --> 1:32:16.017 He did get much better. 1:32:16.218 --> 1:32:19.018 Yeah, And there's a lot of athleticism there. There's a 1:32:19.058 --> 1:32:22.418 lot of arm talent there, uh there, if you build 1:32:22.458 --> 1:32:24.977 it like the Eagles have built it for Hurts and 1:32:25.018 --> 1:32:28.258 you built it a certain way. I believe that that 1:32:28.378 --> 1:32:31.497 Jalen Milroe could potentially be a starting quarterback in the NFL. 1:32:32.098 --> 1:32:34.937 But is that enough for him to go in the 1:32:34.937 --> 1:32:37.058 first round. I don't know, but it's probably enough for 1:32:37.138 --> 1:32:38.737 him to go in the second, right, Like. 1:32:40.178 --> 1:32:41.817 And look, it's too easy for these things, but we 1:32:41.897 --> 1:32:44.937 like this database. Yeah, Dave Jylen Miller going six overall? 1:32:45.018 --> 1:32:46.977 Right now? Oh yeah, no, I mean that's not happening 1:32:47.098 --> 1:32:49.937 unless he I know, I can't. He would have to 1:32:50.138 --> 1:32:52.537 light up the bowl game, light up the pre draft 1:32:52.577 --> 1:32:54.138 process like that would would He is. 1:32:54.138 --> 1:32:56.057 Going to be impressive, and he's one of the few 1:32:56.138 --> 1:32:59.057 guys like usually top quarterbacks don't do stuff. 1:32:59.298 --> 1:33:00.897 Yeah, I wouldn't be surprized if he. 1:33:00.978 --> 1:33:03.298 Runs at the combine and throws and does the whole 1:33:03.338 --> 1:33:05.257 because he's going to dominate the combine. 1:33:05.338 --> 1:33:08.218 Yeah, that's why that's why I like him. You know, 1:33:08.298 --> 1:33:11.098 I could he be sort of like and again I 1:33:11.098 --> 1:33:13.017 don't mean the stereotype, but like, could he be sort 1:33:13.018 --> 1:33:15.897 of like an Anthony Richardson. Jalen hurts like type of process. 1:33:16.018 --> 1:33:18.657 Not that big though he's not as big as Richardson. No, 1:33:18.897 --> 1:33:22.218 he's not even as like he's hurts his short shorter right, 1:33:22.298 --> 1:33:26.577 which hurts like two which like Milro's taller. 1:33:26.857 --> 1:33:28.897 He's listening to two twenty. Wow, I would not have 1:33:28.937 --> 1:33:30.898 guessed that I run around. 1:33:30.937 --> 1:33:32.258 Yeah. I think he's kind of built a little bit 1:33:32.298 --> 1:33:35.857 like Jalen Hurts. All I doesn't look like it. But yeah, 1:33:35.978 --> 1:33:38.097 all right, let's take these phone calls and I want 1:33:38.098 --> 1:33:40.497 to talk a little bit Chargers before we wrap up 1:33:40.537 --> 1:33:43.977 the show. Here. Justin is in North Carolina. What's up? Justin? 1:33:44.058 --> 1:33:46.697 I didn't know at first, you know, I was like, hey, how. 1:33:46.657 --> 1:33:48.658 Do you going good? How are you? 1:33:49.577 --> 1:33:54.817 I'm good. My problem is that after they had back 1:33:54.897 --> 1:33:58.258 such a terrible game, and then they had such a 1:33:58.418 --> 1:34:02.057 good day, then they had such a good game. It's 1:34:02.178 --> 1:34:08.577 like everybody was really complaining Drake May. Everybody would say, 1:34:08.617 --> 1:34:12.177 Drake May just stops, you know, ninety Drake May lost 1:34:12.218 --> 1:34:19.617 the game, and and then and then there's saying, you 1:34:19.657 --> 1:34:25.058 know that Ramondre was, you know, got our hands and 1:34:25.098 --> 1:34:26.057 all that kind of stuff. 1:34:26.138 --> 1:34:27.458 It means he did run good. 1:34:27.577 --> 1:34:31.857 I mean he bumbled once and then in that gatteral play, 1:34:31.937 --> 1:34:33.777 which was property because they were in the back of 1:34:33.777 --> 1:34:36.737 the end zone. It's just that they were just and 1:34:36.777 --> 1:34:39.338 now they're ready to trade them. I mean, I think 1:34:39.338 --> 1:34:42.617 he played a better game. He made more yards and 1:34:42.737 --> 1:34:46.057 played and played a better game as far as running 1:34:46.537 --> 1:34:51.817 than he has this all year. And you know, now, 1:34:52.258 --> 1:34:55.697 I know it's a problem that it's fumble, but gifts 1:34:55.697 --> 1:34:59.897 the fumble as well, and I just I just now 1:35:00.657 --> 1:35:03.577 and if they had to even though they did not win, 1:35:03.657 --> 1:35:05.897 which whoever, I know, that's what a lot of people wanted. 1:35:06.897 --> 1:35:12.057 They played so good against the Bill that that took 1:35:12.418 --> 1:35:17.017 away from the m v P status of Josh Allen. 1:35:17.617 --> 1:35:21.258 So I mean, if they did do good, they did 1:35:21.657 --> 1:35:24.777 show a good front. And I just don't understand why 1:35:24.817 --> 1:35:26.737 they don't. I guess I can see they just don't 1:35:26.737 --> 1:35:30.458 want to be over overly confident, because it's all it's 1:35:30.537 --> 1:35:33.178 get up and down. I just I just want to 1:35:33.178 --> 1:35:35.298 give him a little break, you know. 1:35:36.298 --> 1:35:39.338 Yeah, that's that's fair. Just yeah, yes, I know this. 1:35:39.458 --> 1:35:41.577 For the segment she's talking about on the Sports Ub, 1:35:41.617 --> 1:35:43.737 Matt McCarthy did the lightning round where he just had 1:35:43.777 --> 1:35:46.298 as many people calling as possible, did Drake May cost 1:35:46.378 --> 1:35:49.057 Patriots the game? Yes or no? He said yes. They 1:35:49.098 --> 1:35:51.458 were like, I think it was like twenty two to 1:35:51.537 --> 1:35:54.577 three callers saying no. So he just got put in 1:35:54.657 --> 1:35:55.097 his place. 1:35:55.937 --> 1:35:59.378 That's a that's a very Matt McCarthy thing to do, 1:36:00.058 --> 1:36:02.977 which I say with all due respect, he just likes 1:36:02.978 --> 1:36:04.777 to poke the bear a little bit. Oh yeah, yeah, 1:36:04.817 --> 1:36:08.497 that's absolutely But I think the biggest thing to me 1:36:08.577 --> 1:36:09.617 with Drake May, by the. 1:36:09.617 --> 1:36:12.378 Way Patriots of World Marcus Jones out Ben Brown is 1:36:12.418 --> 1:36:14.057 one of eleven that are questioned. 1:36:14.138 --> 1:36:16.857 Yes, so Ben Brown still has a chance in the protocol, 1:36:16.857 --> 1:36:18.977 which is going to be tough. This regime, though, has 1:36:18.978 --> 1:36:21.097 done it right. Drake May cleared protocol. 1:36:21.258 --> 1:36:24.657 Remember there's like a not loophole, but it's easier for 1:36:24.737 --> 1:36:26.257 quarterbacks to get out of the protocol. 1:36:26.378 --> 1:36:29.137 Yeah. I also wonder too, you know, if Cold Strange 1:36:29.178 --> 1:36:32.977 is ready, you probably want to see Cole Strange at 1:36:32.978 --> 1:36:35.378 some point play this year, and this is probably the 1:36:35.418 --> 1:36:38.338 opportunity to do it. Like Ben Brown doesn't deserve to 1:36:38.338 --> 1:36:40.458 get bench based off of the tape, like he played 1:36:40.458 --> 1:36:43.097 pretty well in this game last week. Besides the snaps 1:36:43.098 --> 1:36:45.537 which have continued been an issue. That's why I was 1:36:45.537 --> 1:36:48.378 a little bit surprised that it was a concussion because 1:36:48.378 --> 1:36:49.977 it's two weeks in a row now that he's had 1:36:49.978 --> 1:36:52.178 some snapping issues, and I actually thought that maybe there 1:36:52.258 --> 1:36:55.138 was something physically, you know, like an ailment, like a 1:36:55.338 --> 1:36:58.258 core issue, or like an upper body type injury that 1:36:58.897 --> 1:37:02.737 or was causing it. But it's a concussion, so it 1:37:02.777 --> 1:37:05.977 still has a chance to play. Back to Justina's point, though, 1:37:06.058 --> 1:37:09.497 I think the biggest thing with Drake May there's so 1:37:09.617 --> 1:37:12.458 much good on the film with him, there's so much good, 1:37:12.777 --> 1:37:15.017 you know, a lot of really great, high level throws. 1:37:15.298 --> 1:37:17.497 I think he sees space in the defense and reads 1:37:17.537 --> 1:37:20.737 zone coverage extremely well, just kind of knows where the 1:37:20.777 --> 1:37:22.458 voids are going to be and where the pockets are 1:37:22.497 --> 1:37:24.857 going to be. And he has great ball placement against 1:37:24.857 --> 1:37:26.737 man coverage for the most part, which is how you 1:37:26.777 --> 1:37:28.418 beat man right. You got to put the ball in 1:37:28.458 --> 1:37:31.218 a place away from the defender for the receiver to 1:37:31.258 --> 1:37:34.017 make the catch. I thought the early third down to 1:37:34.098 --> 1:37:36.937 Hunter Henry was a perfect example of that. That's pretty 1:37:36.937 --> 1:37:39.857 good coverage. That is a muddied pocket. There's pressure on 1:37:39.978 --> 1:37:42.577 him in that pocket. He stands in that pocket, and 1:37:42.617 --> 1:37:44.577 he puts the ball on Henry and makes the play, 1:37:44.617 --> 1:37:46.577 and they move the chains and they stay on the field. 1:37:46.937 --> 1:37:48.657 So there's a lot of great things. I think, you 1:37:48.697 --> 1:37:52.418 know what we're all looking for. One this fan base, 1:37:52.577 --> 1:37:55.858 and understandably so has some Mac Jones rookie season PTSD, 1:37:56.098 --> 1:37:58.697 right that just exists within this fan base. We saw 1:37:58.737 --> 1:38:01.977 a quarterback, a young quarterback not too long ago, played 1:38:02.018 --> 1:38:04.298 some really good football as a rookie, and then it 1:38:04.378 --> 1:38:07.298 completely fell off after that. So there are certain people 1:38:07.378 --> 1:38:10.338 that are just setting themselves up for failure right like 1:38:10.378 --> 1:38:13.657 that are trying to protect their own feelings from that. Again, 1:38:14.138 --> 1:38:16.577 the second thing is is that it's fair to say 1:38:16.937 --> 1:38:18.977 they're still not winning these games that Drake May is 1:38:18.978 --> 1:38:21.817 playing it. Yeah, he has won from wire to wire. 1:38:21.897 --> 1:38:24.977 He's won one game against the Bears since he took 1:38:25.018 --> 1:38:28.297 over as the starter, So just where can he improve? 1:38:28.617 --> 1:38:31.097 It's not everyone sees it, like I think, all, well, everyone, 1:38:31.458 --> 1:38:33.857 you can't deny that everyone sees the talent like that 1:38:33.978 --> 1:38:37.737 is undeniable that this guy is a franchise quarterback talent. 1:38:38.258 --> 1:38:41.458 But now it's on the Patriots and on this organization 1:38:41.497 --> 1:38:44.057 as a whole to develop that talent, it's to get 1:38:44.138 --> 1:38:47.137 him developed. It's to get the situation around him to develop. 1:38:47.138 --> 1:38:49.497 It's to get him with the right coaches, the right receivers. 1:38:49.777 --> 1:38:51.897 I get him an offensive line. Like, there's a lot 1:38:51.937 --> 1:38:54.137 that goes into that, and that's where we're at. We've 1:38:54.218 --> 1:38:58.217 checked the box of is Drake may a starting quarterback 1:38:58.218 --> 1:39:00.697 in the NFL? I think the physical talent checks that 1:39:00.777 --> 1:39:03.418 box for you. Now the question is is you know, 1:39:03.897 --> 1:39:06.218 can he be better? Right? Can he be even better 1:39:06.258 --> 1:39:07.617 than this? I'll touch on one other thing. 1:39:07.697 --> 1:39:10.857 She said, Yeah, the Patriots ended Josh Allen's MVP chanswer 1:39:10.897 --> 1:39:13.017 impact his MVP chances? Who's your MVP? 1:39:13.098 --> 1:39:18.138 Evan? He was damn good yesterday, Lamar. You know this 1:39:18.258 --> 1:39:21.777 is truly like deciding. I bet you this is how 1:39:21.897 --> 1:39:25.537 parents feel about deciding between children, because I you know, 1:39:25.577 --> 1:39:33.577 I love both guys. Oh, come on, I probably give 1:39:33.577 --> 1:39:37.017 it to Josh Allen. Still cut really yeah, first. 1:39:36.897 --> 1:39:39.137 Off, what he did against this Patriots defense. 1:39:39.418 --> 1:39:43.257 Second of all, okay, that's such. Don't don't be recency biased, 1:39:43.258 --> 1:39:45.218 don't don't fine, don't look at what. 1:39:45.218 --> 1:39:47.617 He did against the Texans and look at what Lamar 1:39:47.657 --> 1:39:48.298 did against Texan. 1:39:48.418 --> 1:39:50.937 Do you remember the reaction after that Texans game, because 1:39:50.937 --> 1:39:53.458 this is also another version of like, oh when did 1:39:53.458 --> 1:39:56.418 they play Tennessee October? Like, okay, so he played the 1:39:56.777 --> 1:39:59.458 Texans four months ago and then this Texans team played 1:39:59.537 --> 1:40:02.657 Lamar yesterday Like those are not it's not the same. 1:40:03.817 --> 1:40:07.178 And Lamar has been awesome Lamar, I have no doubt 1:40:07.178 --> 1:40:11.657 about that. I do wonder. Look what it comes down 1:40:11.657 --> 1:40:15.058 to when I'm evaluating m VP, and maybe this is 1:40:15.098 --> 1:40:17.777 an argument for Lamar and that I'm making without me knowing. 1:40:18.378 --> 1:40:20.817 It's basically which if you took the player off the team, 1:40:20.817 --> 1:40:23.057 how much worse would they get? Right like that? That's 1:40:23.098 --> 1:40:28.057 what we're talking about here. My thing with Lamar, and 1:40:28.098 --> 1:40:30.098 this is one of your guys, like Derrick Henry is 1:40:30.098 --> 1:40:32.617 there now and he's had a great scene now, Lamar 1:40:32.697 --> 1:40:34.817 is letting him do a lot of it right like that. 1:40:34.937 --> 1:40:36.937 It's a lot of it is because of Lamar that 1:40:36.978 --> 1:40:38.577 Derek Henry has been there. 1:40:38.657 --> 1:40:40.777 Lamar still has like forty total touchdowns. 1:40:40.857 --> 1:40:43.298 Yeah, he's like forty four to four in terms of 1:40:43.298 --> 1:40:44.937 touchdowns interceptions right now. 1:40:45.098 --> 1:40:47.497 Really, really Burrow should be in the conversation too, but 1:40:47.537 --> 1:40:49.737 the Bengals just suck. Yeah, But because if you talk 1:40:49.737 --> 1:40:51.937 about take him off the team. Whose team gets worse, 1:40:52.817 --> 1:40:55.617 it's Joe Burrow. I just the Bengals seems nothing without him. 1:40:55.657 --> 1:40:57.378 Watching the Bills up close, and it was a bad 1:40:57.458 --> 1:40:59.017 I put him on the downs list. It was a 1:40:59.018 --> 1:41:01.657 bad Josh Allen game, There's no doubt about that. But 1:41:01.817 --> 1:41:07.097 watching the Bills up close, Josh Allen does not have 1:41:07.897 --> 1:41:10.577 a great supporting cast. He has a good supporting cast, 1:41:11.258 --> 1:41:15.657 but those receivers are nothing special. Like it's washed Amari Cooper, 1:41:16.458 --> 1:41:19.098 it's Khalil Shakiro, who's a really good slot receiver, but 1:41:19.098 --> 1:41:22.418 that's what he is, right, And it's Keon Coleman, who 1:41:22.697 --> 1:41:25.017 you know how I feel about Keon Coleman. And I 1:41:25.058 --> 1:41:27.777 said it at the time when they drafted Dalton Kinkaid, 1:41:28.098 --> 1:41:31.057 Dalond Kinkaid was that was a bad draft pick in 1:41:31.058 --> 1:41:34.858 my mind. Is his career so far has been exactly 1:41:34.897 --> 1:41:37.017 like a lot of tight ends like early in the draft, 1:41:37.018 --> 1:41:40.057 aar like not all of them are gonna be brock Bowers, right, 1:41:40.098 --> 1:41:43.097 Like he's not brock Bowers. Yeah, And Dalton kin Kid 1:41:43.098 --> 1:41:45.338 has like I think, like four hundred and fifty five 1:41:45.418 --> 1:41:47.977 hundred yards this year. In year two had about the 1:41:48.018 --> 1:41:51.977 same last year, Like, that's not that's not a ton. 1:41:52.138 --> 1:41:52.857 That's not a ton. 1:41:53.138 --> 1:41:58.298 How about the the strength schedule. Josh Allen's playing the afcast, 1:41:58.298 --> 1:41:58.897 He's playing. 1:41:59.018 --> 1:42:01.018 I'm not gonna if they give it to Lamar Jackson, Like, 1:42:01.058 --> 1:42:04.138 I'm not gonna argue, Like Lamar Jackson's awesome, right, if 1:42:04.178 --> 1:42:06.177 they give it to Lamar Jackson, I'm not gonna argue. 1:42:06.537 --> 1:42:08.577 It's probably a little bit of voter fatigue. And we 1:42:08.577 --> 1:42:10.817 could look back on this and it's like, you know, 1:42:10.937 --> 1:42:14.617 Joel Embiid's MVP instead of Nikola Jokic, Like Jokich was 1:42:14.657 --> 1:42:15.737 probably the MVP of the league. 1:42:15.777 --> 1:42:18.298 Well, it's it's that thing where like we dealt with 1:42:18.298 --> 1:42:20.658 this for Brady for years. You win a couple MVPs, 1:42:20.657 --> 1:42:22.537 and now it's not just you have to be the 1:42:22.537 --> 1:42:24.097 best player in the league. You have to be better 1:42:24.138 --> 1:42:27.657 than your average year at being said Josh Allen winning 1:42:27.697 --> 1:42:30.378 it to your point about Jokic, Like I've compared the 1:42:30.458 --> 1:42:32.977 Bills to the Sixers for a long time. This would 1:42:32.978 --> 1:42:35.537 do the fraudulent Joelle and beat MVP. 1:42:35.897 --> 1:42:39.737 It would be very Sixers esque. His numbers, Lamar's numbers 1:42:39.777 --> 1:42:42.617 this year are better than they were last year. Last 1:42:42.697 --> 1:42:45.577 year though, probably was like a water down year for MVP. 1:42:46.218 --> 1:42:48.218 It was really you know, unless he wanted to give 1:42:48.258 --> 1:42:50.497 it to like Christian McCaffrey, Like there wasn't a whole 1:42:50.497 --> 1:42:52.697 lot of options outside of the Mamar Jackson fel SA, 1:42:53.218 --> 1:42:56.338 I know how you feel. But in the conversation, he's 1:42:56.338 --> 1:42:58.817 in the top five, like he just deserves votes. Yeah, 1:42:58.817 --> 1:43:00.617 but he doesn't. He's not gonna win it. He shouldn't 1:43:00.617 --> 1:43:00.897 win it. 1:43:01.378 --> 1:43:03.697 Who whose team is forget? Take him off the team? 1:43:03.697 --> 1:43:04.617 Which team becomes worse? 1:43:04.937 --> 1:43:05.497 Who? 1:43:05.697 --> 1:43:07.817 Which team is a better team? Which team would you 1:43:08.058 --> 1:43:09.697 less want to play? The Ravens or the Bills? 1:43:11.218 --> 1:43:13.977 I don't know. It's so such recency biased because we 1:43:14.098 --> 1:43:16.577 both we just watched the Bills kind of be in 1:43:16.577 --> 1:43:18.378 a game with the Patriots, and then we just watched 1:43:18.378 --> 1:43:19.617 the Ravens wax the text. 1:43:19.697 --> 1:43:21.737 I know the Bills have a better record that Ravens team. 1:43:21.978 --> 1:43:24.537 I think they're like the danger team. That's the team 1:43:24.577 --> 1:43:26.138 you do not want to see going to the playoffs. 1:43:26.178 --> 1:43:28.537 I really hope Lamar Jackson wins the Super Bowl. I 1:43:28.537 --> 1:43:31.338 would love to see Lamar Jackson win a Super so 1:43:31.697 --> 1:43:33.458 I would not like to see the Bills winning. 1:43:33.418 --> 1:43:35.497 That is one of the few on your yeah you 1:43:35.537 --> 1:43:37.537 do no, yeah, do you want Josh to win one? 1:43:37.577 --> 1:43:41.418 So we'll shut up? No, No, I would be perfectly 1:43:41.458 --> 1:43:45.537 content with Josh Allen being a more enjoyable Joel Embiid 1:43:45.697 --> 1:43:47.497 like same resume, but just. 1:43:47.577 --> 1:43:51.577 Not you know what, you know what I want for 1:43:51.657 --> 1:43:54.217 Josh Allen. And this is gonna surprise some people. But again, 1:43:54.258 --> 1:43:56.258 it's nobody understands what my real take is. 1:43:56.258 --> 1:43:58.338 Oh my god, that's because you're really like when you 1:43:58.378 --> 1:44:00.617 say nobody understands your real take, it means you're doing 1:44:00.617 --> 1:44:02.138 a bad job. No, I'm all right. 1:44:02.298 --> 1:44:03.977 I've tried to explain a number of times. I want 1:44:04.058 --> 1:44:07.458 Josh Allen to be Matthew Stafford. I want him to 1:44:07.497 --> 1:44:10.257 go win somewhere else. I would love to see Josh Allen. 1:44:10.018 --> 1:44:11.977 Win a super Bowl and not Buffalo. Yeah, that's fair, 1:44:12.138 --> 1:44:14.057 that's fine. I'm good with that. I can't the Bills 1:44:14.058 --> 1:44:16.338 can't win a super Bowl, and we're never gonna be 1:44:16.338 --> 1:44:17.418 on the same page about Coyle Shanahan. 1:44:17.537 --> 1:44:18.777 But he's not gonna win it this year, so you 1:44:18.817 --> 1:44:20.897 don't have to deal with him blowing the Super Bowl 1:44:20.978 --> 1:44:21.378 late again. 1:44:21.458 --> 1:44:25.857 Congratulations all right, Kendall is in North Carolina. What's we're 1:44:25.897 --> 1:44:28.098 big in North Carolina? Told me what, Kendall is not 1:44:28.138 --> 1:44:30.338 gonna win. It's the Bill Belichick effect. It's the Drake 1:44:30.577 --> 1:44:32.898 Bill Belichick effect. Good good. 1:44:34.258 --> 1:44:36.897 Of course was for and Alex. 1:44:37.978 --> 1:44:40.017 If we do win another game and whatnot? Where would 1:44:40.058 --> 1:44:42.817 you all draft Luther Burden? That would you draft him 1:44:42.817 --> 1:44:44.617 in the top pano maybe outside top? 1:44:45.258 --> 1:44:46.058 And I take it up. 1:44:46.218 --> 1:44:48.977 Oh that's a good question, thanks Kendall. Yeah, because you 1:44:49.577 --> 1:44:51.697 good quick. We did this the other week. You raved 1:44:51.737 --> 1:44:52.298 about Luthor. 1:44:52.697 --> 1:44:56.497 You're ruling about Luthor Burden, and then you basically ended 1:44:56.497 --> 1:44:57.418 the segment saying, and. 1:44:57.458 --> 1:44:59.497 He's the third best receiver in the draft. I didn't 1:44:59.497 --> 1:45:02.177 say third is second? Where Drift Hunter? 1:45:03.018 --> 1:45:03.138 Uh? 1:45:03.577 --> 1:45:07.097 Yeah, I guess. But I'm I'm sort of coming around 1:45:07.138 --> 1:45:09.418 just to listen to some of the reporting out there 1:45:09.577 --> 1:45:12.737 by the insiders. It definitely does seem like jams around 1:45:12.737 --> 1:45:14.418 the league. Think Travis Hunters is going to say, what 1:45:14.418 --> 1:45:17.097 do you make of that? Jay Glazer report? Probably pretty accurate. 1:45:17.138 --> 1:45:20.137 So all right, so you you you drooled over Luthor Burden. 1:45:20.817 --> 1:45:23.537 You talked about how tentative you were on Tet McMillan. 1:45:23.577 --> 1:45:25.097 But then he said, but Tet mcmill is my wide 1:45:25.138 --> 1:45:30.258 receiver one. I tried not to let my stylistic biases 1:45:30.777 --> 1:45:36.977 creep into my rankings too much, because I always have 1:45:37.138 --> 1:45:40.177 this sort of back and forth internally with myself about 1:45:40.178 --> 1:45:42.418 how to treat the draft in terms of rankings, Like 1:45:42.458 --> 1:45:45.617 am I ranking as if I was Elliott Wolf? Or 1:45:45.617 --> 1:45:48.137 am I just ranking to be right about the players? 1:45:48.218 --> 1:45:48.817 You know what I mean? 1:45:48.897 --> 1:45:48.977 Like? 1:45:49.018 --> 1:45:50.977 Am I ranking it as if I am just a 1:45:51.018 --> 1:45:54.338 generic NFL football team and just who's the best football player? 1:45:54.817 --> 1:45:58.258 Like if I'm ranking it with just who's the best 1:45:58.258 --> 1:46:01.178 football players? Like I try to take my biases of 1:46:01.617 --> 1:46:04.017 this guy's just not really my cup of tea out 1:46:04.058 --> 1:46:07.777 of it unless I'm really convicted that, like Quinton Johnson, 1:46:07.857 --> 1:46:10.097 Like I just did not see it with Quinton Johnston, 1:46:10.418 --> 1:46:13.057 and so I wasn't gonna allow myself to rank him, 1:46:13.138 --> 1:46:16.057 you know, highly, because of that. But with Ted McMillan, 1:46:16.138 --> 1:46:18.777 I see what everybody else sees. It's just I wouldn't 1:46:18.817 --> 1:46:21.857 build my offense around a player like that, Okay, I 1:46:21.897 --> 1:46:25.017 would build my offense around to Luther Burden. Are you 1:46:25.018 --> 1:46:26.937 taking Luther? I think he's a top twenty pick in 1:46:27.018 --> 1:46:28.137 this draft. Top twenty. 1:46:28.178 --> 1:46:31.977 Okay, so even if the Patriots win is both games, Yeah, 1:46:32.018 --> 1:46:34.298 it's still probably a trade down situation for you. 1:46:34.537 --> 1:46:37.777 Yeah, and look, I would love if because we had 1:46:37.817 --> 1:46:40.018 a caller. I think it was on Peu. Like, I 1:46:40.497 --> 1:46:42.657 would love if they could be in a situation where 1:46:42.697 --> 1:46:45.097 they trade back up from the top of the second 1:46:45.178 --> 1:46:47.218 round to grab a guy like Luther Burden. I just 1:46:47.218 --> 1:46:48.537 don't think he's gonna fall that far. 1:46:48.657 --> 1:46:49.897 So all right, let me ask you if you say 1:46:49.897 --> 1:46:52.857 his top twenty pick. Yeah, let's say in this draft, 1:46:52.937 --> 1:46:55.137 like in this draft, yep, yep, yep. Yeah, let's say 1:46:55.178 --> 1:46:55.737 I'm looking at. 1:46:55.697 --> 1:46:58.817 The teams here. Oh, here's a good one. 1:46:58.897 --> 1:47:03.097 Okay, the Bengals at fourteen, they lose t Higgins. They 1:47:03.138 --> 1:47:05.737 need to add juice for Joe Burrow. Yeah, you know, 1:47:06.018 --> 1:47:09.418 you get in Tell the Bengals are taking Luther Burden 1:47:09.458 --> 1:47:14.378 at fourteen? Would you take him somewhere ten through thirteen? 1:47:14.857 --> 1:47:17.258 I think about that. Yeah, I would know that, like, 1:47:17.298 --> 1:47:18.817 all right, we're not gonna get him if we wait 1:47:18.857 --> 1:47:21.657 till eighteen nineteen twenty. Yeah, I would. I would. I 1:47:21.657 --> 1:47:27.097 I in this draft in particular now, and that might 1:47:27.138 --> 1:47:30.578 be trade down trade. Does the board does the board 1:47:30.737 --> 1:47:33.257 just for the fact that it's not a great receiver class. 1:47:34.338 --> 1:47:36.137 And well that's what I'm saying. So, like a couple 1:47:36.138 --> 1:47:38.497 of years ago, right when Jay Flowers and Jackson Smith 1:47:38.537 --> 1:47:41.378 and Jigba and Jordan Addison came out, they had the 1:47:41.458 --> 1:47:44.378 league adjusted for the fact that it wasn't Malik Neighbors, 1:47:44.378 --> 1:47:47.338 Marvin Harrison Junior and Romadonza right like they got drafted 1:47:47.338 --> 1:47:49.338 in the twenties. Yeah, I think they all went with 1:47:49.378 --> 1:47:52.298 four straight picks if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, in twenty 1:47:52.338 --> 1:47:56.537 twenty two or twenty three. Which draft was that? Twenty three, 1:47:56.577 --> 1:47:58.857 twenty three? Yep, yeah, sorry, twenty three, So Zay Flower, 1:47:58.897 --> 1:48:02.737 it was JSN, Zay Flowers, Addison, Quentin Johnson I think 1:48:02.777 --> 1:48:05.178 in that order, and they went with four picks in 1:48:05.178 --> 1:48:07.137 a row or like four or five picks or something 1:48:07.178 --> 1:48:07.458 like that. 1:48:07.777 --> 1:48:10.657 It was four picks in a row, js N, Johnston, Flowers, Addison. 1:48:10.777 --> 1:48:12.817 Oh okay, I thought Flowers went ahead of Johnson for 1:48:12.817 --> 1:48:16.178 some reason. No idiots, Uh, anyways, that man him on 1:48:16.258 --> 1:48:20.257 this Chargers team. Yeah, I mean whatever, Yeah, just draft 1:48:20.298 --> 1:48:25.298 stiff receivers. It's fine. So you look at this draft, 1:48:25.338 --> 1:48:29.017 I could I see that happening with Luther Burden, the 1:48:29.098 --> 1:48:31.458 kid from Ohiose Sate to BUCA. Right, like those types 1:48:31.458 --> 1:48:33.697 of players, you know, some of the guys, you know, 1:48:33.857 --> 1:48:37.098 Tory Horton or the kid from Texas, you know, like 1:48:37.138 --> 1:48:39.737 those guys. I could see that happening that the league 1:48:39.817 --> 1:48:43.378 is like in other years, this guy, we have to 1:48:43.418 --> 1:48:45.697 take the guy where he's worth on the board. Now 1:48:45.978 --> 1:48:48.138 in mis draft, I think Luther Burden could be in 1:48:48.178 --> 1:48:50.737 the top fifteen because he's the second best receiver in 1:48:50.737 --> 1:48:51.097 the draft. 1:48:51.098 --> 1:48:53.817 And the other thing is so in that draft, the 1:48:53.937 --> 1:48:56.137 kind of the consensus was in none of those guys 1:48:56.138 --> 1:48:59.338 were top picks. Yeah, so they fell. This one's a 1:48:59.378 --> 1:49:03.937 little different because bias aside. Is Ted McMillan going to 1:49:04.018 --> 1:49:05.418 go in the top six picks? 1:49:05.777 --> 1:49:07.977 I think he's top ten at least, right, Yeah, he's 1:49:07.978 --> 1:49:10.897 gonna ten. Ten is his floor? Right? Right? Yeah, he's 1:49:10.937 --> 1:49:14.258 gonna go. And now it's well, we got to get 1:49:14.258 --> 1:49:14.977 the next receiver. 1:49:15.378 --> 1:49:18.697 We need a receiver. So maybe Burden is a twenty 1:49:18.737 --> 1:49:23.218 to twenty five pick. But are are we really going 1:49:23.258 --> 1:49:24.737 to see in the first round of the draft where 1:49:24.737 --> 1:49:28.218 wide receivers go so often? Are fifteen picks going to 1:49:28.298 --> 1:49:32.258 go without a wide receiver going. When's the last time? Honestly, well, 1:49:32.298 --> 1:49:34.138 I guess that year that got to the twenties. But 1:49:34.657 --> 1:49:36.777 after the first receiver, when's the last time we went 1:49:36.857 --> 1:49:40.298 fifteen picks in the first round without another wide receiver taken? 1:49:41.937 --> 1:49:42.977 They always go in bunches. 1:49:43.178 --> 1:49:44.098 Yeah, all right. 1:49:44.138 --> 1:49:47.418 Twenty twenty two is another example. You had five wide 1:49:47.458 --> 1:49:49.737 receivers going in the first round. Right, six wide receivers 1:49:49.737 --> 1:49:52.097 go in the first round. They went in the span 1:49:52.178 --> 1:49:56.537 of ten picks. Drake London went eighth, Treylon Burks went eighteenth. Yeah, 1:49:56.577 --> 1:49:58.777 so you had same thing at twenty twenty one. A 1:49:58.777 --> 1:50:02.017 bunch of wide receivers went five, six, ten, and then 1:50:02.018 --> 1:50:04.298 you jumped to twenty in twenty seven. So there was 1:50:04.338 --> 1:50:06.057 a little bit of a jump there. But it's like 1:50:06.857 --> 1:50:09.298 McMillan's gonna go and teams unless there's a team that 1:50:09.338 --> 1:50:11.617 fused Hunter as a wide receiver, and maybe that exkews it. 1:50:11.697 --> 1:50:13.378 But this is going to be so hard to read 1:50:13.378 --> 1:50:15.737 the board this year. Travis Hunter, it's gonna make it. 1:50:15.777 --> 1:50:18.138 I'm realizing, like in real time he's good off he 1:50:18.178 --> 1:50:18.817 makes the draft. 1:50:18.897 --> 1:50:20.577 No, I mean, he's going to be a top five pick. 1:50:20.657 --> 1:50:23.698 So I, well, but the trickle down, right. 1:50:23.657 --> 1:50:25.857 Yeah, But I still feel like Teed McMillan is still 1:50:25.897 --> 1:50:28.657 a top ten pick even if the team treats Travis Hunters. 1:50:28.777 --> 1:50:30.897 Sure, but no, But I mean it's like, if Travis 1:50:30.978 --> 1:50:34.137 hunter goes, are more teams panicking about the corners going 1:50:34.178 --> 1:50:37.257 early or more teams panicking about the receivers going early corners? 1:50:37.378 --> 1:50:39.777 I think that because it's really just him and Will Johnson. 1:50:39.857 --> 1:50:42.577 Okay, so, but the point being like, I don't think 1:50:42.617 --> 1:50:44.258 team is gonna wait around that long to take the 1:50:44.258 --> 1:50:44.897 second receiver. 1:50:45.298 --> 1:50:49.617 Yeah, and receivers like Luther Burden that have that kind 1:50:49.617 --> 1:50:52.777 of explosiveness and that kind of big playability really at 1:50:52.817 --> 1:50:54.937 all three levels where you can like scheme touch him 1:50:55.018 --> 1:50:56.657 or you can throw the ball on a vertical down 1:50:56.697 --> 1:50:58.577 the field. Like those types of guys don't last long 1:50:58.617 --> 1:50:59.418 in the NFL draft. 1:50:59.458 --> 1:51:00.937 I still think that Chiefs are going to give up 1:51:00.978 --> 1:51:02.338 a ton to move up and get him to. 1:51:02.378 --> 1:51:05.057 Be a good pick. All right, Eldred is in North Carolina? 1:51:05.098 --> 1:51:13.018 What's up, Eldred? There? It is Christmas? Thank you? 1:51:13.098 --> 1:51:18.458 Yeah, yes, sir, I'm kind of kind of count of 1:51:18.737 --> 1:51:25.098 fun a little bit with I Like, he's got this burnspeed. 1:51:26.098 --> 1:51:28.617 But Travis huntert y'all wouldn't try to make him a 1:51:28.617 --> 1:51:32.497 wide receiver instead of a corner first. 1:51:32.777 --> 1:51:35.258 Yeah, we've talked about that in the past, Eldred and 1:51:35.338 --> 1:51:38.657 I definitely would think about it. You know, if that's 1:51:38.657 --> 1:51:40.497 the side of the ball that he wants to play 1:51:40.817 --> 1:51:43.058 and he's more committed to being a receiver, I'm not 1:51:43.058 --> 1:51:45.418 gonna tell him that he can't be right like it's 1:51:45.458 --> 1:51:46.497 it's that sort of thing to me. 1:51:46.537 --> 1:51:49.497 I wouldn't play him both ways if I think, if 1:51:49.497 --> 1:51:51.537 you're the Patriots, it makes much more sense if you're 1:51:51.537 --> 1:51:53.378 gonna draft him, to draft him as a receiver. And 1:51:53.697 --> 1:51:55.497 we kind of talked to him about him being like 1:51:55.537 --> 1:51:59.137 a third down corner. Yeah, maybe or a spot corner. 1:51:59.857 --> 1:52:02.137 But based on all the reporting right now, it sounds 1:52:02.138 --> 1:52:05.337 like the majority of the teams see him as a cornerback. 1:52:05.418 --> 1:52:08.017 I understand why. I think his ceiling is higher both. 1:52:08.058 --> 1:52:10.218 I think his football ceiling. I think his caliber of 1:52:10.218 --> 1:52:13.697 a players hires a corner, And honestly, if I'm advising him, 1:52:14.258 --> 1:52:16.057 I think he makes more money as a corner in. 1:52:16.018 --> 1:52:18.178 The NFL too. That's the biggest thing to so the 1:52:18.218 --> 1:52:21.977 wide receiver contract, the big wide receiver contract is worth 1:52:22.018 --> 1:52:23.698 more in the biggest corner contract. 1:52:23.737 --> 1:52:26.418 But you look at the way he's built. He's gonna 1:52:26.458 --> 1:52:30.657 get one, maybe two big contracts as a receiver. He 1:52:30.777 --> 1:52:32.937 might get three as a corner. Like he'll last a 1:52:32.937 --> 1:52:35.817 lot longer as a corner. I think he makes more money, 1:52:35.857 --> 1:52:37.497 honestly if he plays corner than receiver. 1:52:38.218 --> 1:52:41.298 Okay, one more, one more question. Let y'all go, yeah, 1:52:41.617 --> 1:52:44.617 and I take it off there. Do you trust Wolf 1:52:44.978 --> 1:52:47.138 to make the right move? I didn't trust them last year. 1:52:47.178 --> 1:52:48.418 I don't think I trust him this year. 1:52:50.697 --> 1:52:55.537 Thanks Eldred, Yeah, thank you. Love the horn. I think 1:52:55.577 --> 1:52:59.178 we're getting into the territory now where we've talked a 1:52:59.258 --> 1:53:00.537 lot about the coaching. 1:53:00.258 --> 1:53:02.057 Right, it's trying to start talking about the front office 1:53:02.058 --> 1:53:02.258 and a. 1:53:02.258 --> 1:53:05.338 Lot about Gid Mayo. And just my two cents, this 1:53:05.418 --> 1:53:08.857 is just my opinion. We're probably in the territory now 1:53:08.897 --> 1:53:10.897 at Girod Mayo where he's going to get a second year. 1:53:10.978 --> 1:53:13.058 It seems to be that way. Yeah, I would be 1:53:13.098 --> 1:53:16.657 pretty shocked. They would have to have like they would 1:53:16.737 --> 1:53:19.497 have to lose forty five to nothing to I think 1:53:19.497 --> 1:53:20.937 it's more than that. I think you would have to 1:53:20.978 --> 1:53:23.418 see like fights on the sideline. Yeah, it would have 1:53:23.497 --> 1:53:27.378 to have a complete implosion at this point for Girod 1:53:27.458 --> 1:53:30.338 Mayo to not be back for a second season. It 1:53:30.537 --> 1:53:33.378 is that the best thing we could debate that, you know, 1:53:33.458 --> 1:53:37.338 Like I understand that there's multiple size of this. I 1:53:37.418 --> 1:53:40.697 really also then feel, and I feel pretty strongly about this. 1:53:41.897 --> 1:53:44.857 Scapegoating Alex van Pelt for what's gone on here, I 1:53:44.937 --> 1:53:45.897 think would be a mistake. 1:53:45.978 --> 1:53:47.258 I could not agree with you more. 1:53:47.298 --> 1:53:50.177 I actually think that the person that's done the best 1:53:50.298 --> 1:53:53.617 job at his job on the coaching staff is probably Vampel. 1:53:53.737 --> 1:53:55.937 Doesn't mean he can't make changes below him, yeah, And 1:53:55.978 --> 1:53:58.657 it doesn't mean he's been perfect. Yeah, certainly hasn't. Like 1:53:58.697 --> 1:54:01.097 I've had a lot of criticism of his play calling, 1:54:01.897 --> 1:54:04.897 mostly the play design and the creativity of the offense, 1:54:05.218 --> 1:54:07.097 and then the red zone stuff we talked about earlier. 1:54:07.098 --> 1:54:09.537 I put that as much on Vapelt as anybody. But 1:54:09.777 --> 1:54:12.258 at the same time, he's done a nice job with 1:54:12.338 --> 1:54:15.777 Drake may They seem to have a good relationship working together. 1:54:16.138 --> 1:54:18.977 There's enough there from a base offense that I see 1:54:18.978 --> 1:54:21.458 that if they had better personnel what they are trying 1:54:21.497 --> 1:54:24.097 to execute and how they would be able to do it, 1:54:24.697 --> 1:54:26.657 and at the end of the day, like, what message 1:54:26.697 --> 1:54:29.218 does that kind of send to the organization that the 1:54:29.258 --> 1:54:32.338 guy that actually did the best job, right, because some 1:54:32.458 --> 1:54:34.538 head has to roll for three and twelve or three 1:54:34.538 --> 1:54:36.738 and thirteen or whatever. The frick the math is now 1:54:37.498 --> 1:54:40.618 three and fourteen because some head has to roll for that, 1:54:40.658 --> 1:54:43.057 We're just gonna We're gonna can they know that's done 1:54:43.098 --> 1:54:43.618 the best job? 1:54:43.698 --> 1:54:45.937 What message does is cent to potential candidates if you're 1:54:45.978 --> 1:54:48.338 looking for somebody to upgrade, like they know they're not 1:54:48.338 --> 1:54:49.698 coming in a ton of job security. 1:54:49.858 --> 1:54:51.418 No, I completely agree with you, And that's not say 1:54:51.418 --> 1:54:54.057 Alex em Pelt should be offensive coordinator for life. Yeah, 1:54:54.218 --> 1:54:55.818 he's just earned a second year. 1:54:55.858 --> 1:54:58.058 I'll say this on the Elliott Wolf thing, and I 1:54:58.178 --> 1:55:00.378 know that people might laugh at me saying this. When 1:55:00.418 --> 1:55:03.538 it comes to the Patriots in their draft history, I 1:55:03.578 --> 1:55:06.498 think there are certainly some So I assume he's asked 1:55:06.498 --> 1:55:09.378 about the draft getting right, bigger picture, free agencies and another story. 1:55:09.378 --> 1:55:12.418 But when we're talking about that top draft pick, how 1:55:12.418 --> 1:55:16.937 many wrong picks really are there? There's definitely some picks 1:55:16.937 --> 1:55:20.338 that are better than others, but you look at the 1:55:20.378 --> 1:55:24.498 majority of the board Travis Hunter would be a good pick. 1:55:24.978 --> 1:55:27.738 We're not gonna complain if they draft Travis Hunter. Abdul 1:55:27.818 --> 1:55:29.658 Carter would be a good pick. We're not gonna complain 1:55:29.698 --> 1:55:32.658 if they draft at to Carter. I will say Ted McMillan. 1:55:32.298 --> 1:55:34.897 Would be a good pick. Yeah, like pending free agency, 1:55:34.897 --> 1:55:38.578 and I will be nervous. It's a good so I 1:55:38.698 --> 1:55:41.937 left him. There's some picks that are better than others. Yeah, 1:55:41.978 --> 1:55:44.937 how many Will Carr Will Campbell would be a good pick? 1:55:46.258 --> 1:55:49.578 How many like bad picks really are there? Because they 1:55:49.578 --> 1:55:50.978 have so many needs. 1:55:50.858 --> 1:55:52.498 Right, there's not a lot of bad paces at the 1:55:52.498 --> 1:55:54.578 top of the first I agree with you, And it's 1:55:54.618 --> 1:55:57.218 pretty hard to miss on a pick that high. 1:55:57.298 --> 1:55:59.378 The only guy I look at that I'm like, I 1:55:59.458 --> 1:56:01.058 really hope they don't draft him at the top. And 1:56:01.098 --> 1:56:02.578 it's not even that he's a bad player. I just 1:56:02.618 --> 1:56:05.097 don't think there's a spot for him. And we talked 1:56:05.098 --> 1:56:06.218 about this, I think it was last week. 1:56:06.338 --> 1:56:07.017 Is Mason Graham? 1:56:07.098 --> 1:56:09.658 Yeah, he too redundant with Christian Barmore. It's one of 1:56:09.738 --> 1:56:12.217 the few spots you have a good player, you really can't. 1:56:12.298 --> 1:56:14.418 It's not like even if they took Will Johnson, like 1:56:14.498 --> 1:56:16.338 you can play him a Gonzalez at the same time. 1:56:16.338 --> 1:56:20.098 It's gonna be very hard to play Mason Graham and 1:56:21.138 --> 1:56:24.057 Christian Barmore at the same time. That's really the only 1:56:24.098 --> 1:56:25.458 guy I look at when I look at the top 1:56:25.458 --> 1:56:27.338 of this list, and obviously the quarterbacks, but they're not 1:56:27.378 --> 1:56:30.057 going to do that. Mason Graham is the only guy 1:56:30.098 --> 1:56:32.498 I looking at the top of this list and say like, yeah, 1:56:32.498 --> 1:56:34.937 I'd be unhappy if they draft him. I'd be happier 1:56:34.978 --> 1:56:38.498 with some than others, but there aren't a lot of 1:56:38.578 --> 1:56:39.658 bad picks on the board. 1:56:39.858 --> 1:56:42.538 Yeah, So really quickly on Wolf. What's that on your sleeve? 1:56:42.578 --> 1:56:46.017 By the way, why don get me started? And got 1:56:46.058 --> 1:56:48.658 pain on it? All right? Anyways, really quickly on Wolf 1:56:48.698 --> 1:56:50.098 and then we gotta get out of here. So I 1:56:50.178 --> 1:56:52.778 just want to do two seconds on the Chargers. Uh. 1:56:52.818 --> 1:56:56.378 The biggest thing to me with Wolf moving forward is 1:56:56.458 --> 1:57:00.338 really one closing in free agency. I think that's gonna 1:57:00.378 --> 1:57:06.618 be harder than just in terms of evaluating who they 1:57:06.658 --> 1:57:09.778 should go after. I believe that part is kind of 1:57:09.778 --> 1:57:11.738 easy to be honest with you, like, who are the 1:57:11.738 --> 1:57:14.618 players you want? Is not the hard part. The hard 1:57:14.658 --> 1:57:17.298 part is getting the contract signed and across the finish 1:57:17.338 --> 1:57:19.498 line and getting that player in your building. Well, it's closing. 1:57:19.937 --> 1:57:21.298 I know we got a wrap, but like I think 1:57:21.378 --> 1:57:24.858 it's not just honestly, they need to make trades. They're 1:57:24.858 --> 1:57:27.017 not gonna get everything they want for agency. I've said this, 1:57:27.058 --> 1:57:29.698 I think t Higgins is going back to Cincinnati. It's 1:57:29.778 --> 1:57:31.818 dk Metcalf and I don't know if you saw the 1:57:31.858 --> 1:57:33.978 Athletic Football Podcast. 1:57:33.538 --> 1:57:37.138 This week, it was Robert these people are giving you 1:57:37.178 --> 1:57:38.057 credence here. 1:57:38.018 --> 1:57:41.097 Robert Mas and Dereklass and we're both talking about, Yeah, 1:57:41.178 --> 1:57:44.578 the Seahawks and move Metcalf. Like, I still think he's 1:57:44.618 --> 1:57:46.578 gonna be the best guy available at that position. 1:57:46.738 --> 1:57:50.138 So I'm not as concerned about them being able to 1:57:50.218 --> 1:57:52.897 identify the players that they want in free agency. I'm 1:57:52.937 --> 1:57:55.178 more concerned about them getting the players that they want 1:57:55.218 --> 1:57:55.937 in free agency. 1:57:56.018 --> 1:57:58.618 A little breaking news to Sean Jackson named the head coach. 1:57:58.458 --> 1:58:02.017 At uh this is what you interrupt me for Delaware State, 1:58:02.058 --> 1:58:05.298 DeShawn that's mike Vic DeShawn Jackson. That's kind of cool. 1:58:05.618 --> 1:58:05.738 Uh. 1:58:06.418 --> 1:58:09.578 So that's the biggest thing to me because they they 1:58:09.578 --> 1:58:13.178 are still not like a great destination. They're they're more 1:58:13.178 --> 1:58:15.378 attractive than they were a year ago because of Drake 1:58:15.418 --> 1:58:18.257 May for an offensive player of T Higgins or DK 1:58:18.378 --> 1:58:21.258 Metcalf or whatever. But those guys are gonna have tons 1:58:21.298 --> 1:58:24.218 of options. They're gonna have tons of options that are 1:58:24.258 --> 1:58:26.818 gonna pay him tons of money. So it's not your 1:58:26.858 --> 1:58:29.258 money is not going to just be the only reason 1:58:29.258 --> 1:58:31.498 why you get the player. Don't get the player. So 1:58:31.498 --> 1:58:35.977 they're gonna have to sell that player on something. And 1:58:36.018 --> 1:58:38.258 that's on Elliott Wolf, Like, that's on that staff and 1:58:38.338 --> 1:58:43.897 girodmeyo a little bit too to persuade Elliott Wolf to 1:58:43.937 --> 1:58:46.897 persuade T Higgins or whoever it is to sign with the Patriots. 1:58:47.178 --> 1:58:51.178 Just a quick story aside. You know in in Tennessee, 1:58:51.458 --> 1:58:53.378 you know, big thing that I had heard from a 1:58:53.418 --> 1:58:55.458 lot of their beat writers and stuff like that about 1:58:55.458 --> 1:58:59.138 the Calvin Ridley sweepstakes. Ran Carthin, their GM is this 1:58:59.218 --> 1:59:02.977 sort of closer like he's like, do you ever watch suits? No, 1:59:03.058 --> 1:59:05.738 But I understand that he's Harvey Spector right, Like he 1:59:05.818 --> 1:59:09.698 comes in and he gets the deal done, and that 1:59:10.937 --> 1:59:13.177 might have been the difference. Now there was other things 1:59:13.218 --> 1:59:15.778 like you know, the whole location and money and all that. 1:59:15.858 --> 1:59:18.937 I'm sure, but ran Carthin apparently is this guy that 1:59:19.058 --> 1:59:20.578 just comes in and closes deals. 1:59:20.418 --> 1:59:22.818 Something to make those something that makes those things like 1:59:23.058 --> 1:59:24.858 a factor is how it's pitched right. 1:59:25.138 --> 1:59:27.258 So that's that's a big thing to me. And then 1:59:27.458 --> 1:59:30.298 in the draft, it's all about what you do in 1:59:30.698 --> 1:59:34.538 two through seven. I'm not trying to totally take credit 1:59:34.578 --> 1:59:36.738 away from them for taking a guy like Drake may. 1:59:36.658 --> 1:59:39.498 We took too many calls on Marvin Harrison to he 1:59:39.578 --> 1:59:40.498 was a slam dunk pick. 1:59:40.538 --> 1:59:43.498 Right, But it's sort of similar now where you're gonna 1:59:43.498 --> 1:59:45.538 have you're gonna pick two overall, you're gonna have a 1:59:45.538 --> 1:59:47.498 board of four or five guys, and all four or 1:59:47.538 --> 1:59:49.778 five you have a really strong case to make the pick. 1:59:50.298 --> 1:59:52.378 So it's not gonna be the hardest pick in the 1:59:52.378 --> 1:59:57.738 world in the first round. Jalen Polk, Kendon Wallace, Javon Baker, like, 1:59:57.778 --> 2:00:00.378 those are the guys that make you gms great like 2:00:00.418 --> 2:00:03.218 those are. That's how Howie Roseman is one of the 2:00:03.218 --> 2:00:05.618 best GMS in football. That's how Brett Viach is one 2:00:05.618 --> 2:00:08.618 of the best gms in football. Those guys make their 2:00:08.738 --> 2:00:11.937 money on Days two and three in the draft. Yeah, 2:00:12.018 --> 2:00:15.137 and so that's gonna be big for Wolf. He's gonna 2:00:15.138 --> 2:00:17.137 get it, Like just like Girod's gonna get the second 2:00:17.178 --> 2:00:19.498 year as the head coach. Elliott Wolf is gonna be 2:00:19.498 --> 2:00:22.258 the one picking the groceries and the offseason for the Patriots. 2:00:22.897 --> 2:00:25.898 His future with this team will be decided by this offseason. 2:00:26.138 --> 2:00:28.738 If he strikes out this offseason, he's he's probably gonna 2:00:28.738 --> 2:00:32.778 be I. They both problem. Yeah, So really quickly on 2:00:32.858 --> 2:00:36.098 the Chargers, my big uh, you know the thing I'm 2:00:36.418 --> 2:00:40.977 looking for in this game, really really good defensive mind 2:00:41.258 --> 2:00:44.338 coming here with the Chargers. Jesse Minter probably gonna be 2:00:44.338 --> 2:00:47.818 a head coach in the league, not before long. Really 2:00:48.058 --> 2:00:50.258 one of those He's a tighte pants guy on the 2:00:50.258 --> 2:00:52.738 defense side of the ball, right, Like he's he's Mike McDonald, 2:00:52.858 --> 2:00:56.097 he's Demiko Ryans. Like he's one of those types of guys. 2:00:56.897 --> 2:01:02.977 Uh maybet better than Stale, but he's one of those guys. 2:01:02.978 --> 2:01:05.418 It's a schemer, like he's a mastermind. Right, he's gonna 2:01:05.418 --> 2:01:07.418 come in. He's gonna be really good on the x's 2:01:07.418 --> 2:01:09.057 and o's. He's gonna be really good at knowing your 2:01:09.098 --> 2:01:12.458 ten season situational tend and seas in particular. So that 2:01:12.578 --> 2:01:15.378 is a really tough matchup for Alex fann Pelt. We 2:01:15.418 --> 2:01:17.658 talk about him getting his second year here and all 2:01:17.658 --> 2:01:19.458 that kind of stuff. You know, this is one of 2:01:19.498 --> 2:01:21.658 those games I thought the Bills are kind of a 2:01:21.738 --> 2:01:23.618 do what you do type of defense. You sort of 2:01:23.698 --> 2:01:25.538 know you're gonna get four to three over, you're gonna 2:01:25.538 --> 2:01:27.818 get Cover two, you're gonna get Manta man. You kind 2:01:27.818 --> 2:01:29.897 of know what the Bills are gonna do. Uh, this 2:01:30.538 --> 2:01:32.498 Chargers team is gonna spin the dial a lot more 2:01:32.538 --> 2:01:35.178 on Drake May. So big game for Alex van Pelt, 2:01:35.258 --> 2:01:37.818 big game for Drake May going up against a pretty 2:01:37.858 --> 2:01:41.858 good Chargers defense to show some chops there. But defensively 2:01:41.897 --> 2:01:45.098 for the Patriots, I still feel like this is a 2:01:45.138 --> 2:01:47.538 game that they can compete in like they did against Buffalo. 2:01:47.778 --> 2:01:50.778 I look at this Chargers offense. It's Lad McConkie, like 2:01:50.818 --> 2:01:51.938 it's Lad McConkie. 2:01:52.418 --> 2:01:55.418 And Will Disley's their second leading receiver and he's hurt. 2:01:56.098 --> 2:02:01.738 It's really not a passing offense. Great quarterback, one really 2:02:01.738 --> 2:02:04.578 good receiver. They just played a great quarterback and one 2:02:04.618 --> 2:02:07.258 really good receiver, and Josh Allen and Khalil Shakir and 2:02:07.298 --> 2:02:10.458 did a really good job this game. To me, defensively 2:02:10.458 --> 2:02:13.338 has a ton of carryover. The one caveat is that 2:02:13.458 --> 2:02:17.017 the Chargers will run the ball. They will not. They 2:02:17.058 --> 2:02:20.418 won't pull a Joe Brady Josh Allen and get baited 2:02:20.458 --> 2:02:22.498 into throwing the ball forty times in a game. They 2:02:22.498 --> 2:02:24.578 don't need to be throwing the ball forty times. They're 2:02:24.618 --> 2:02:26.498 gonna be two back. They're gonna put a full back 2:02:26.538 --> 2:02:29.858 in the backfield. They're gonna put Justin Herbert under center 2:02:30.058 --> 2:02:31.897 or in the still and they're gonna run the ball, 2:02:32.218 --> 2:02:34.298 and if the Patriots can't stop it and get them 2:02:34.298 --> 2:02:38.538 into third down situations, then it will be a Charger game. 2:02:38.618 --> 2:02:41.258 Like the Chargers will control the game. Yeah, I agree 2:02:41.258 --> 2:02:42.138 with a lot of that. I know we've got to 2:02:42.138 --> 2:02:42.578 get out of here. 2:02:42.618 --> 2:02:45.177 I just I think it's a tougher team than the Bills, 2:02:45.178 --> 2:02:46.578 and they're gonna have to win it if they can 2:02:46.858 --> 2:02:48.378 win at the line of scrimmag which is than if 2:02:48.378 --> 2:02:49.498 with this team, if they can win at the line 2:02:49.498 --> 2:02:50.698 of scrimmage. I don't know if they win, but they 2:02:50.738 --> 2:02:52.338 keep it close. I know some people look at it 2:02:52.458 --> 2:02:54.418 as four and a half as the number is being 2:02:54.738 --> 2:02:57.258 you know, surprised it's that low. You also have the 2:02:57.258 --> 2:02:59.897 whole thing about West Coast Dome team coming to the Northeast. 2:03:00.178 --> 2:03:02.897 Herbert has not been good here in Jillette Stadium, especially 2:03:03.018 --> 2:03:05.458 late in the year. I think the Chargers are probably 2:03:05.498 --> 2:03:07.498 trying to win this game, like thirteen to ten. 2:03:07.658 --> 2:03:11.057 Yeah, I would also say they the Chargers don't run 2:03:11.098 --> 2:03:13.858 away from you and the scoreboard necessarily like the Bills can. 2:03:13.937 --> 2:03:16.057 The Bills can be a wagon and they can hang 2:03:16.138 --> 2:03:18.017 forty five on you and just run away from you. 2:03:18.378 --> 2:03:21.177 This Chargers team is nineteenth in the points per game. 2:03:21.498 --> 2:03:24.338 They're fifteenth in DVOA. On offense. They have a really 2:03:24.378 --> 2:03:27.298 good quarterback, but they're not a great offense yet they 2:03:27.298 --> 2:03:30.658 still have holes. Receiving corps is still not scaring a 2:03:30.658 --> 2:03:34.658 lot of people. So this Charger game could be a 2:03:34.698 --> 2:03:39.057 Patriots style game where it's twenty to seventeen, right, seventeen fourteen, 2:03:39.138 --> 2:03:41.858 twenty to seventeen. I think I paid twenty fourteen on 2:03:42.018 --> 2:03:44.498 PU Like that's a score that the Patriots could win 2:03:44.538 --> 2:03:46.937 a game within. The Bills are a little bit different. 2:03:46.978 --> 2:03:48.858 The Bills you had to score and you knew it. 2:03:48.978 --> 2:03:52.897 So that's the Chargers on Sunday. I hope our Saturday. 2:03:52.937 --> 2:03:55.738 Excuse me, open the future we do shows again where 2:03:55.778 --> 2:03:59.338 we have like a long game preview segment. 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